I bought the same rhinowalk bag a few months ago. Went out 3 weeks ago in torrential rain all day. It stayed bone dry inside. Was well impressed with it.
Thanks for that, Sam, very interesting! IIRC, Kreiga have a "lifetime" warranty on their kit, which would partially explain *some* of the increased price difference, right? Grea test, we like to see destructive testing, it's the only way to be sure... ;) :D At that price, you might even consider these bags to put *inside* another bag you might already have (e.g. I have a largeish very old Oxford tail pack which is water resistant so I put everything inside that in plastic bags - this could perhaps be a slightly better (if more expensive) solution to that issue (I'm also currently experimenting with "waterproof" packing cubes in that role as well...) :) Those Kreiga metal clasps I suspect might be where the difference *really* shows itself up over time, even proper Kreiga stuff has failed in that way IME! :( On balance, it seems these are probably worth taking a punt on, right? :)
Yes they do I think but I guess it depends on what goes wrong with it. I suppose there isn't a huge amount that can go wrong eith them. Clips break or it leaks. I'm sure if seams started to pop they would blame the user for overpacking like most companies would with a warranty. Sometimes warranties are incredible and sometimes they are barely worth the paper they are written on! Completely depends on the company so would have to hear more about Kriega themselves, or Lone Rider/Mosko etc. I was genuinely shocked it stood up to the abuse almost as well as the Kriega did. And every message or comment received about people owning them has been nothing but positive so I'd say its worth a punt for sure. A few people have said they are going to grab one as a cheap tool bag to strap to the back of their enduro bikes which seems like a great idea
Without getting into specifics, there are so many products of all kinds that are literally identical. The only difference is the name on the label and the sticker price.
I’ve got the rhino walk copy of the sw motech tail bag similar to Richy Vida and I’m well impressed so far, not used much but I’ll defo be giving it a good go this year.
Nice! Yeah they seem to have quite a few great options. Everyone that has replied to me or messaged about theirs has had nothing but good things to say so I'm sure yours will be brilliant!
I actually bought the 35l rhinowalk tail bag for the passenger seat on my Goldwing and it’s really well made. Was £160 so not cheap. Around £100 less than other leading brands. Very impressed with it. Good video mate 👍🏻
Great to hear you like it! I was ready for that bag to tear itself to bits in the drag test, and if not that, expecting it to fill up like a balloon in the jetwashing, but nothing! Super impressed with it for such a bargain price compared to the others on the market
@@SamVBikesthis one was bought in a rush from Amazon as the sw motech ones would have taken 4 days or more just before I was going on a trip. I actually think it’s a good bag. I mean I didn’t drag it through muck and ice on a monkey on a green lane but mine has held up well over a year ! Funny video mate. Gave me a laugh tonight. Subbed.
Great product test Sam, I love that you really abused this kit and that they wouldn't normally get such abuse. I'm impressed with the rhino results, especially for the price! I but they would work in conjunction with kreiga products too to build on existing kit I have! 👍
Thanks bud! I was very surprised it managed to stand up to my abuse! Definitely wouldn't even get close to that level of abuse on a day to day basis! Unfortunately the clips don't go together but there's no reason to say you couldn't use the same loop rings and hooks on both!
@@SamVBikes sounds like they will work together in a reasonable way. I would have bought more kreiga kit if it was not so expensive as I would use it enough to justify the outlay. To leave a rhino.bag permanently strapped to the bike for carrying locks would be okay as it's unlikely to get nicked like a kreiga would!
@@SamVBikes and you can get a full set for the price if 1 kreiga bag too. I don't ride in the bad and cold weather but if you look at heated body warmers and stuff, aimed at fishing and other activities that are non bike branded kit, the prices are a fraction of keiss and gerbing. I do wonder how they would compare? It seems bike branded gear carries a premium price and in some instances, 4 or 5 times the price of the alternatives but, like the rhino kit, looks suspiciously similar!
Yeah would definitely be interested. I guess the Keis and Gerbing stuff has to have a much better resistance to cold, and go much hotter as its got to deal with the wind chill at 70mph! But the luggage.. that has no excuses haha
I am after my 1st few days long trip with Rhinowalk full set 30l+2x20l. From what I have noticed on your video, Kreiga has definitely better metal clips. With Rhinowalk (especially when the motorcycle fliped 3 times during the trip) it happened that 1 or 2 straps holding on the main 30l bag to the motorcycle where disconnected.
Hello mate, I got some Rhinowalk 48L saddle bags last year. Served me well on the NC500 with rain on the way up for 5 hours! Selling now as I can’t be bothered with the straps. A great bag if you are on a budget! A great comparison video. As you say though will they last as long? But for the money they are well worth it 👍🏼
Nice mate! Yeah part of me would love some decent panniers which are rackless but I can't bring myself to spend the money for the once or twice a year I use them. Glad you've had a great experience with yours! I'm going to use this bag on the monkey with what I have planned on it to see if it will stand the test of time.
They are cheap universal ones off Amazon! The mirrors are CNC bar ends! Let me know if you can't find them and I'll try to find the order so I can send the links
Your Monkey is looking amazing. Loving the mods you've done to it. Do you have a link to the handguards and bar end mirrors? Both look great.Thanks@@SamVBikes
Thank you mate! They are cheap amazon jobs! Links below, hopefully they will work. The handguards seem to have different mounts if you swap the design. Joe bought the carbon versions off this link and had a different mount turn up! FENRIR Black Round Retro Cafe Racer Mirror amzn.eu/d/4RRcPeA Motorcycle Hand Guard Universal Grip Guard amzn.eu/d/hYtugfB
I have fitted biltwell thruster grips instead and got a handlebar brace coming, grips are thicker and way nicer, combined with brace they should dampen the vibes now the bar ends are removed but can always poke a hole in the ends later if i decide to add handguards.
Surely, the cost for Kriega is in the design, initial test, getting it to market, promotion, and warranty's. Where as Rhino have simply copied and ripped them off. Good for consumers short term, but will it be worth all that effort in the long term. I unfortunately would buy the cheaper one, but feel a bit embarrassed about it. Good test, though. Keep up the good work.
Yeah definitely. I assume there is some level of testing, promo etc for Rhinowalk but save a shed load in not having to do the design and everything else! Thanks for watching
I bought the same rhinowalk bag a few months ago. Went out 3 weeks ago in torrential rain all day. It stayed bone dry inside. Was well impressed with it.
Amazing! Yeah I'm really surprised how well it held up!
do more of these "destruction" videos! made me chuckle alot! well done mate!
Thank you mate! Glad you enjoyed it! I wonder if triumph will let me do a tested to destruction with the new tiger 900 😂
I got 2 panniers this time last year, been great, done 3 tours and about 3k miles loaded never a issue.
Amazing! That's brilliant news 👏🏼
Thanks for that, Sam, very interesting! IIRC, Kreiga have a "lifetime" warranty on their kit, which would partially explain *some* of the increased price difference, right? Grea test, we like to see destructive testing, it's the only way to be sure... ;) :D At that price, you might even consider these bags to put *inside* another bag you might already have (e.g. I have a largeish very old Oxford tail pack which is water resistant so I put everything inside that in plastic bags - this could perhaps be a slightly better (if more expensive) solution to that issue (I'm also currently experimenting with "waterproof" packing cubes in that role as well...) :) Those Kreiga metal clasps I suspect might be where the difference *really* shows itself up over time, even proper Kreiga stuff has failed in that way IME! :( On balance, it seems these are probably worth taking a punt on, right? :)
Yes they do I think but I guess it depends on what goes wrong with it. I suppose there isn't a huge amount that can go wrong eith them. Clips break or it leaks. I'm sure if seams started to pop they would blame the user for overpacking like most companies would with a warranty. Sometimes warranties are incredible and sometimes they are barely worth the paper they are written on! Completely depends on the company so would have to hear more about Kriega themselves, or Lone Rider/Mosko etc.
I was genuinely shocked it stood up to the abuse almost as well as the Kriega did. And every message or comment received about people owning them has been nothing but positive so I'd say its worth a punt for sure. A few people have said they are going to grab one as a cheap tool bag to strap to the back of their enduro bikes which seems like a great idea
I have used Rhinowalk pannier bags on my T100 for a year and love the product, 2x20 litre bags less than 100 quid excellent quality.
Thats precisely it! 2 bags for the price of one 10Litre for another brand
You were having waaayyy too much fun dragging things around. It reminds me of old westerns dragging your enemy behind a horse.
😂😂 yeah it was worryingly enjoyable!
@@SamVBikes be careful you don't get a visit by two large men wearing white suits and a jacket that has sleeves that tie in the back. 🤪🤪
Just imagining me sat in a padded room shouting "Monkey bikes are fun" over and over 😂
@@SamVBikes 😂😂😂 🙉🏍️🙉🏍️
Without getting into specifics, there are so many products of all kinds that are literally identical. The only difference is the name on the label and the sticker price.
Agreed! And some are ridiculously overpriced because of the brand.. a few specifics are at the tip of my tongue in the luggage game haha!
I’ve got the rhino walk copy of the sw motech tail bag similar to Richy Vida and I’m well impressed so far, not used much but I’ll defo be giving it a good go this year.
Nice! Yeah they seem to have quite a few great options. Everyone that has replied to me or messaged about theirs has had nothing but good things to say so I'm sure yours will be brilliant!
@@SamVBikes fingers crossed mate, I wanted it for my camera gear so I really hope it don’t fuck of somewhere 😂
😂😂😂 yeah maybe an extra strap just in case!
@@SamVBikes might be a good idea 😂😂😂
I actually bought the 35l rhinowalk tail bag for the passenger seat on my Goldwing and it’s really well made. Was £160 so not cheap. Around £100 less than other leading brands. Very impressed with it. Good video mate 👍🏻
Great to hear you like it! I was ready for that bag to tear itself to bits in the drag test, and if not that, expecting it to fill up like a balloon in the jetwashing, but nothing! Super impressed with it for such a bargain price compared to the others on the market
@@SamVBikesthis one was bought in a rush from Amazon as the sw motech ones would have taken 4 days or more just before I was going on a trip. I actually think it’s a good bag. I mean I didn’t drag it through muck and ice on a monkey on a green lane but mine has held up well over a year ! Funny video mate. Gave me a laugh tonight. Subbed.
Haha thank you for the sub pal! Have a good one!
Great product test Sam, I love that you really abused this kit and that they wouldn't normally get such abuse. I'm impressed with the rhino results, especially for the price! I but they would work in conjunction with kreiga products too to build on existing kit I have! 👍
Thanks bud! I was very surprised it managed to stand up to my abuse! Definitely wouldn't even get close to that level of abuse on a day to day basis! Unfortunately the clips don't go together but there's no reason to say you couldn't use the same loop rings and hooks on both!
@@SamVBikes sounds like they will work together in a reasonable way. I would have bought more kreiga kit if it was not so expensive as I would use it enough to justify the outlay. To leave a rhino.bag permanently strapped to the bike for carrying locks would be okay as it's unlikely to get nicked like a kreiga would!
Exactly that mate! And if you manage to ruin a Rhinowalk bag, you can replace it twice before you get to the cost of one of the Kriegas!
@@SamVBikes and you can get a full set for the price if 1 kreiga bag too. I don't ride in the bad and cold weather but if you look at heated body warmers and stuff, aimed at fishing and other activities that are non bike branded kit, the prices are a fraction of keiss and gerbing. I do wonder how they would compare? It seems bike branded gear carries a premium price and in some instances, 4 or 5 times the price of the alternatives but, like the rhino kit, looks suspiciously similar!
Yeah would definitely be interested. I guess the Keis and Gerbing stuff has to have a much better resistance to cold, and go much hotter as its got to deal with the wind chill at 70mph! But the luggage.. that has no excuses haha
I am after my 1st few days long trip with Rhinowalk full set 30l+2x20l. From what I have noticed on your video, Kreiga has definitely better metal clips. With Rhinowalk (especially when the motorcycle fliped 3 times during the trip) it happened that 1 or 2 straps holding on the main 30l bag to the motorcycle where disconnected.
I think I might have to purchase one of those bags for the enduro!
Oddly enough, Mr Dave Gashpole has just said exactly the same thing!
@@SamVBikes great minds think alike
Hello mate, I got some Rhinowalk 48L saddle bags last year. Served me well on the NC500 with rain on the way up for 5 hours!
Selling now as I can’t be bothered with the straps. A great bag if you are on a budget!
A great comparison video. As you say though will they last as long? But for the money they are well worth it 👍🏼
Nice mate! Yeah part of me would love some decent panniers which are rackless but I can't bring myself to spend the money for the once or twice a year I use them.
Glad you've had a great experience with yours! I'm going to use this bag on the monkey with what I have planned on it to see if it will stand the test of time.
I know what you mean. Luggage is so pricey.
I’ve now opted for the Kreiga OS system on a rack. Only reason was ease of taking on/off bike.
Yeah I do like the look of those! I stick to my LoneRider 48litre bag now. It's really nice quality but sodding expensive
What is the bar end mirror/handguards you got? Doing my monkey like a scrambler and your set up looks ideal.
They are cheap universal ones off Amazon! The mirrors are CNC bar ends! Let me know if you can't find them and I'll try to find the order so I can send the links
Your Monkey is looking amazing. Loving the mods you've done to it. Do you have a link to the handguards and bar end mirrors? Both look great.Thanks@@SamVBikes
Thank you mate! They are cheap amazon jobs! Links below, hopefully they will work.
The handguards seem to have different mounts if you swap the design. Joe bought the carbon versions off this link and had a different mount turn up!
FENRIR Black Round Retro Cafe Racer Mirror
amzn.eu/d/4RRcPeA
Motorcycle Hand Guard Universal Grip Guard amzn.eu/d/hYtugfB
I have fitted biltwell thruster grips instead and got a handlebar brace coming, grips are thicker and way nicer, combined with brace they should dampen the vibes now the bar ends are removed but can always poke a hole in the ends later if i decide to add handguards.
Thanks for the quick reply, mate. I'll have a look now. Cheers!@@SamVBikes
thanks for your video :)
No problem! A lot of good feedback on your products!
Surely, the cost for Kriega is in the design, initial test, getting it to market, promotion, and warranty's. Where as Rhino have simply copied and ripped them off. Good for consumers short term, but will it be worth all that effort in the long term. I unfortunately would buy the cheaper one, but feel a bit embarrassed about it. Good test, though. Keep up the good work.
Yeah definitely. I assume there is some level of testing, promo etc for Rhinowalk but save a shed load in not having to do the design and everything else! Thanks for watching
More of this shit please. Brilliant
😂😂 happily!
great for consumers if the product is decent 😁
He's a giggly little thing.
This guy giggles like one US Presidential candidate I’ve heard recently. Substance?
But it looks like u had fun playing with the bags and the Monkey. Great entertainment mate! :)
I’ll ask mick if you were made in china!
Thats his other family he's not allowed to talk about
@@SamVBikes 😂😂