What a great song!!!, love the drums and Robert's voice (can't really find Roger's contribution) The Cure sounds at it's prime, unfortunately the album was lousy, but I agree, it was better than the 4:13 shit.
Was at this concert....while it was good but since it was a festival...they only played around 2 hours...and played too much of this album and not enough other stuff....if memory serves me right Robert wasn't much in a good mood that night.....hardly spoke at all....and unfortunately only 1 encore
yeah, but it's progressive rock, it has so much instruments and sounds that cannot be played on live, the unique bad point is robert, maybe he realize that people gonna sing with him but that never passed
@@reinforcedpenisstem The production on the album is great. Rich, loud and with interesting panning. The drummer is killing it the entire time on the album, mainly on "Us Or Them". Actually, even the drums on 17 seconds (which i also love) sounds like drum machine, due to how overcompressed they are. On self titled, the drums have great punch (mainly how fat and heavy toms sounds). I honestly think that self titled Cure will be always my favorite from them, because it has noisy edge. It has also lot of intensity, which i love in music. Ross Robinson wanted from them recording live the album with minimal overdubs and no metronome, in one room. He is always recording that way with every band and he achieved lot of other amazing records. I think putting blame on a producer, that is preferring raw production over everything else is not exactly fair. It was fault in both ways, since Cure admitted that they never recorded that way - in one room, like a live band. And that also means, that if you think the album is badly produced, it is automatically the bands fault, since what you hear, is the band live, no autotune, minimal overdubs and no samples. The toms in this live version sounds exactly identical like on the studio version - the only difference is that Robert Smith has some echo in the studio version of this song, but apart from that, it sounds exactly the same. :D I think both sides misunderstood each other, but thankfully there is that emotional intensity on the album and it would never work without it. But hey, that is of course my opinion.
@@jackcravford8744 The album was produced by Ross Robinson and it sounds like a glorified rehearsal. It's truly awful. It's not even bad and interesting, it's bad and boring.
@@reinforcedpenisstem It sounds like actual band playing on their live instruments. I found just funny how you said that this live version is automatically better than the studio version, yet the only difference is that the vocals are little bit different. Yet, the studio versions of the songs are actually more complex, since you can hear synths, pianos on background, acoustic guitars and others live instruments, that the band cant play live, cause they don´t have enough members. I found the drumming on the album top tier, the drummer has so many interesting fills. If you think the album sounds boring, then it is mostly the bands fault since this is the way how they sound live lol. The only issue i have with the album is how loud the vocals are, but even the way how the instruments are panned separately in headphones is amazing. But yeah its fine, i don´t wanna force you anything. Happens that people don´t share same sentiment.
I first heard this thanks to Driver San Francisco's credits.
one of the best song ever..sad they play it only at 2004 live and thats it
Sheer bloody Masterpiece, could easily be in any other Cure record and it'd still be in pair with their best stuff!
Angry Robert Smith ALWAYS kicks ASS.
Angry Robert 😡
I'd swap the whole second encore of the '22 Tour for just this one track😝.
I bet lots of people will disagree, but I don't care!
Powerful Song,.... Mega Chingonaaaaaa !....
Pure Rock Sound , Strong & Powerfull 🎸🥁
Muse and Co are K.O. 🔥
i cannot realize that this is doesn't enter into top 100 best rock songs ever.
Simon kicks ass on this song
отличная группа ))
Arte en estado puro.
maybe a day the backdrop of labyrinth available in vidéo hd because it's excellent !
The one who dislikes it's not the same him
Pouaaahh j'adore ce morceau
Cure & Pearl Jam are the two greatest bands ever IMO.. Even though they're stylistically different...
i was there! only like 12 tho. i went with my dad, and fell asleep like halfway threw lol
God what a real song the emotions are too real and powerful
agreed BIG TIME!
genialer song !!
Love it.
So powerful. Amazing it is so obscure. And rarely done live?
probably maybe the best. album..wonder why they rarely play these songs.
best live than studio
@mymusicmaddness I wish to see them, im 17 myself! I really hope i can.
aw
DRIVER SAN FRANCISCO
What a great song!!!, love the drums and Robert's voice (can't really find Roger's contribution) The Cure sounds at it's prime, unfortunately the album was lousy, but I agree, it was better than the 4:13 shit.
Was at this concert....while it was good but since it was a festival...they only played around 2 hours...and played too much of this album and not enough other stuff....if memory serves me right Robert wasn't much in a good mood that night.....hardly spoke at all....and unfortunately only 1 encore
Почему её никто не слушает?
very close to "watching me fall"
Driver San Franciscoda var bu
Mmm not bad, but the radio version sounds better...
yeah, but it's progressive rock, it has so much instruments and sounds that cannot be played on live, the unique bad point is robert, maybe he realize that people gonna sing with him but that never passed
🤰
The drums lack volume and better sound (typical in Jason's style...)
its mixers fault not his
Automatically sounds better live than the badly produced album.
Whan an insult.
It's a masterpiece, just not for your taste.
@@AB-wv6pf I'm insulting the producer for making The Cure sound boring. That is an enormous failure.
@@reinforcedpenisstem The production on the album is great.
Rich, loud and with interesting panning. The drummer is killing it the entire time on the album, mainly on "Us Or Them". Actually, even the drums on 17 seconds (which i also love) sounds like drum machine, due to how overcompressed they are. On self titled, the drums have great punch (mainly how fat and heavy toms sounds).
I honestly think that self titled Cure will be always my favorite from them, because it has noisy edge. It has also lot of intensity, which i love in music.
Ross Robinson wanted from them recording live the album with minimal overdubs and no metronome, in one room. He is always recording that way with every band and he achieved lot of other amazing records. I think putting blame on a producer, that is preferring raw production over everything else is not exactly fair. It was fault in both ways, since Cure admitted that they never recorded that way - in one room, like a live band. And that also means, that if you think the album is badly produced, it is automatically the bands fault, since what you hear, is the band live, no autotune, minimal overdubs and no samples. The toms in this live version sounds exactly identical like on the studio version - the only difference is that Robert Smith has some echo in the studio version of this song, but apart from that, it sounds exactly the same. :D
I think both sides misunderstood each other, but thankfully there is that emotional intensity on the album and it would never work without it. But hey, that is of course my opinion.
@@jackcravford8744 The album was produced by Ross Robinson and it sounds like a glorified rehearsal. It's truly awful. It's not even bad and interesting, it's bad and boring.
@@reinforcedpenisstem It sounds like actual band playing on their live instruments. I found just funny how you said that this live version is automatically better than the studio version, yet the only difference is that the vocals are little bit different. Yet, the studio versions of the songs are actually more complex, since you can hear synths, pianos on background, acoustic guitars and others live instruments, that the band cant play live, cause they don´t have enough members.
I found the drumming on the album top tier, the drummer has so many interesting fills. If you think the album sounds boring, then it is mostly the bands fault since this is the way how they sound live lol.
The only issue i have with the album is how loud the vocals are, but even the way how the instruments are panned separately in headphones is amazing. But yeah its fine, i don´t wanna force you anything. Happens that people don´t share same sentiment.
The drummer ruins the whole song