I think what tips morrowind over the edge for me aside from it's uniqueness is how diegetic the fast travel is. I just learned about index's that allow you to use teleporters, if you're not spoiling everything in this game the depth is fantastic.
I'm so glad that even as a new player you could appreciate Morrowind's world! It really is so cool and unique to explore :) For the Oblivion part did you comment on the realm of Oblivion itself? It was so cool back in the day that those portals were erupting in the main world and trying to take over! Also the Shivering Isles DLC for Oblivion has some of the best moments from that game. Skyrim is cool, definitely a beautiful world, I should go back to play it! been many years.
Morrowind wins for me although all are charming and hold a special place in my heart. It wins for me because of the alien like land and how EVERYTHING is hand placed. Want to get the best gear in the game right away? Sure go ahead but be prepared for the hardest enemies and to actually look around to see that there is more than meets the eye in many dungeons. One of the daedric masks (helmets) is in the last room of a hard dungeon but you won’t even know it is there unless you decide to look up due to crystals making noise above you. There is a secret ledge, that you can only get to if you have levitate.
I played MW as a kid and played the others more recently. I was super thrown off when the others were basically European. I had assumed all of TES games would be built on the same bizarreness of MW.
I know people usually go with what they played first but i still have to give it to Morrowind. It felt so alien and interesting, like i was always just scratching the surface of the lore this place held. To me, Oblivion felt like such a downgrade when it was released and the world was just a generic fantasy realm Felt more like Shrek 2 universe than TES. Skyrim felt more grounded in TES lore and visuals but for some reason never really "grabbed" me like Morrowind. As far as a fun and detailed open world to explore, i still think FO4 is their best work, but of course, that is not relevant to this video.
One thing that irks me to no end is that Oblivion isn't supposed to be this LOTR-esque medieval fantasy. In Morrowind and Skyrim the Imperial Legion is very obviously inspired by the Roman Empire. Cyrodiil is supposed to be a jungle, with the Empire being a Roman-style kingdom, with the Imperial City being this bustling city where every race is numerous because Imperials as a race didn't exist at first. Then someone at Bethesda saw LOTR and decided they wanted to capitalize on its aesthetics. And so they retconned the jungle and the Roman-style, in favor of european forests and medieval knights.
it fits better, jungle would have been dumb, would not have fit the aesthetics at all. besides what you read was the PAST, it WAS a jungle but you need to read what happened in the lore.
I have to partly disagree; to me Oblivion is not THAT much of LOTR. Or maybe I don't know LOTR enough.. the imperial city is weird, and there is a Roman feels to it in certain. Area, like the arena for example. For me Oblivion is a weird hybride and I like it
Anvil feels like an Italian town, not a LOTR one, for example. There's even lion in the dry field attacking you (Roman stuff) + How is Bravil lord of the rings !??
I personally found the caves and ruins in Oblivion to be the most monotonous and similar to each other. I tended to avoid them for that reason. The caves also always felt very low-ceiling'd, and I would feel claustrophobic. Ayleid ruins made me sigh with their similarity in what to expect, similar to what I say about Skyrim's Dwemer ruins, below. And the Oblivion portals and towers were so identical to each other and fatiguing...I just hated having to get through yet another one. I agree with you about Oblivion's supremacy when it came to its cities. Neither Morrowind nor Skyrim beat that - not even close. In Morrowind, the caves (especially) were so twisty and complex that I would frequently feel hopelessly lost. However, they were never monotonous or boring, and I enjoyed them in a scared-of-what's-around-that-corner, frustrated/anxious sort of way, lol. The ruins were generally fun and interesting up top, and fairly linear below ground or inside. I feel the same as you about Morrowind's uniqueness and the excitement of discovery of landscape and history, and the immersiveness. In Skyrim I was generally most pleased with the variety and uniqueness of each cave. The claustrophobic feeling of Oblivion caves was gone, the interesting/curiosity factor of Morrowind caves was back in, and yet they kept the complexity of the Skyrim cave systems lower and a bit more easy to navigate, so the frustration of feeling so completely disoriented was lessened. Nordic tomb ruins however tended to feel repetitive and sometimes convoluted - but the Dwemer ruins in Skyrim were the worst, for me. Though the layouts changed, I always felt like what was inside was typical and expected each time, with a couple of fun exceptions. A highlight however for an underground cave/Dwemer system was Blackreach. Good job on that, Bethesda team! Lovely. I felt that the quests and storytelling were done the best in Skyrim. History and lore were woven well into the quests, with explanation from NPCs through dialogue, which really helped. I remember struggling, in Morrowind, to just orient myself to what was going on in that world - and to have to pick up a LOT of books and READ...and read, lol. It took a long time for me to understand what I was doing there, as this dropped-off prisoner, why I might be significant, and why it even mattered in the context of that world. Skyrim did a much better job of "teaching" you by holding your hand a bit better, on what your role might be or could be, and what your choices or paths might be, before you. While I might not like my hand held on world exploration, I do want a sense of what my purpose might be (if I choose it to be) in the story arc, and I don't mind a bit of exposition from NPCs guiding me toward the idea. (Though neither do I want to feel pigeonholed or forced into it.) It was definitely interesting how each of these three Elder Scrolls games approached suggesting to you what you could do or what your role might be in their world. I did like the freedom and mystery of Morrowind's approach. It took the lightest hand in giving you a direction. More like clues to follow and mysteries to tantalize you into possibly exploring the main quest line than a "Oh my gosh, you're the chosen one, it's got to be You! Go do This!" (The only sense of that in Morrowind is the game's intro cinematic, where Azura's voice speaks to you in terms like that. Once you're actually dropped off on the island, it's just kind of "Hey, go take this package to so-and-so, okay? Like, if you don't mind. But whatever... * *shrug* *")
I can't agree with you. Skyrim caves and dungeons too different from each other especially compere to the Oblivion dungeons and caves much more fun to explore. Sometimes you enter random cave and that cave end up like falmer cave or dwemer ruin.
Morrowind and Oblivion are close to size and diverse bioms, but none beat the nature in Skyrim. The mountains in Skyrim are an art work, and navigating around the world is fun, not baren like Morrowind or unexciting like Oblivion. Every Dungeon in Skyrim is unique and Id rather walk from Whiterun to Rorikstead than Balmora to Pelegia because its not too bad for a no carriage trip.
Oblivion was my first Elder Scrolls game. Despite that Skyrim is my favorite. The open world was a perfect mix of "IDK Figure it out" and "Hey here's a marker on your map that goes somewhere". For cities Oblivion only takes it because I like the fantasy feel. I will say utility wise Skyrim hit the nail on the head for immersion, functionality, and looks. The smaller scale and having every character named with voice line no matter how generic made it feel more real. There are some aspects I like about Morrowind and Oblivion but after playing Skyrim they are very plane and boring not to mention, people praise Morrowind for its other worldly look but I don't like it even in the slightest. Not even in Elder Scrolls online will I go to Morrowind . Oblivion had a very high European feel to it's world with grand castles and city walls surrounded by hills spiraling meadows, and forests. Now Skyrim being a newer game will have better terrain, it did everything oblivion did but better and the blending of all of the worlds biomes feel so good... except the road that runs north of whiterun where you go from grassy meadow to snow on a single pixel. I'd take Skyrim
Not to overreact but are you actually an insane person? Oblivions world is abysmally boring, repetitive and empty. The shivering isles, that is a great map. Not the main game though, I really don’t know how you came to that conclusion.
Agree that Morrowinds World is the most unique, but I like the amount of cool stuff I can discover in Skyrim more, in Skyrim there are so many more things to discover that are not marked on your map. (Sure there are a few of those in Morrowind too, but not nearly as many) The one thing I disagree with is the dungeons. In Morrowind every Ancestral Tomb feels the same even more than Skyrims Nordic Ruins. And there are even more Ancestral Tombs than there are Nordic Ruins.
I think what tips morrowind over the edge for me aside from it's uniqueness is how diegetic the fast travel is. I just learned about index's that allow you to use teleporters, if you're not spoiling everything in this game the depth is fantastic.
I'm so glad that even as a new player you could appreciate Morrowind's world! It really is so cool and unique to explore :) For the Oblivion part did you comment on the realm of Oblivion itself? It was so cool back in the day that those portals were erupting in the main world and trying to take over! Also the Shivering Isles DLC for Oblivion has some of the best moments from that game. Skyrim is cool, definitely a beautiful world, I should go back to play it! been many years.
thought im watching at least 30k channel video. bro u got cool topics for video, do what you do
2:00 just so you know, you can resize the minimap and pin it wherever you want on your screen
You can only do that on PC. You can't do that on Xbox.
Love this! Seeing clips from Oblivion make me wanna replay it. You should have more follower bros. Let me fix that. Subscribed!
Now we're gonna get to experience it in a remake in just 5 months! Can't wait!
Morrowind wins for me although all are charming and hold a special place in my heart. It wins for me because of the alien like land and how EVERYTHING is hand placed. Want to get the best gear in the game right away? Sure go ahead but be prepared for the hardest enemies and to actually look around to see that there is more than meets the eye in many dungeons. One of the daedric masks (helmets) is in the last room of a hard dungeon but you won’t even know it is there unless you decide to look up due to crystals making noise above you. There is a secret ledge, that you can only get to if you have levitate.
I played MW as a kid and played the others more recently. I was super thrown off when the others were basically European. I had assumed all of TES games would be built on the same bizarreness of MW.
Without even going into it its Morrowind, each biome is unique, great towns/cities, daedric shrines and dwemer towers
I know people usually go with what they played first but i still have to give it to Morrowind. It felt so alien and interesting, like i was always just scratching the surface of the lore this place held. To me, Oblivion felt like such a downgrade when it was released and the world was just a generic fantasy realm Felt more like Shrek 2 universe than TES. Skyrim felt more grounded in TES lore and visuals but for some reason never really "grabbed" me like Morrowind. As far as a fun and detailed open world to explore, i still think FO4 is their best work, but of course, that is not relevant to this video.
Morrowind hands down. Wish Bethesda had the balls to go back to true fantasy.
I love Skyrim but Morrowind was the heartbreaker for me. Discovering and finding new places without fast travel made the game feel real...
One thing that irks me to no end is that Oblivion isn't supposed to be this LOTR-esque medieval fantasy.
In Morrowind and Skyrim the Imperial Legion is very obviously inspired by the Roman Empire.
Cyrodiil is supposed to be a jungle, with the Empire being a Roman-style kingdom, with the Imperial City being this bustling city where every race is numerous because Imperials as a race didn't exist at first. Then someone at Bethesda saw LOTR and decided they wanted to capitalize on its aesthetics. And so they retconned the jungle and the Roman-style, in favor of european forests and medieval knights.
it fits better, jungle would have been dumb, would not have fit the aesthetics at all. besides what you read was the PAST, it WAS a jungle but you need to read what happened in the lore.
@@TH3_P1GG135 I know the lore, I simply don't care for it. They need to stop introducing retcons for convenience.
@ lol Elsweyr is a jungle they arent going to have two provinces beside each other that are both jungles
I have to partly disagree; to me Oblivion is not THAT much of LOTR.
Or maybe I don't know LOTR enough.. the imperial city is weird, and there is a Roman feels to it in certain. Area, like the arena for example. For me Oblivion is a weird hybride and I like it
Anvil feels like an Italian town, not a LOTR one, for example. There's even lion in the dry field attacking you (Roman stuff) + How is Bravil lord of the rings !??
I personally found the caves and ruins in Oblivion to be the most monotonous and similar to each other. I tended to avoid them for that reason. The caves also always felt very low-ceiling'd, and I would feel claustrophobic. Ayleid ruins made me sigh with their similarity in what to expect, similar to what I say about Skyrim's Dwemer ruins, below. And the Oblivion portals and towers were so identical to each other and fatiguing...I just hated having to get through yet another one.
I agree with you about Oblivion's supremacy when it came to its cities. Neither Morrowind nor Skyrim beat that - not even close.
In Morrowind, the caves (especially) were so twisty and complex that I would frequently feel hopelessly lost. However, they were never monotonous or boring, and I enjoyed them in a scared-of-what's-around-that-corner, frustrated/anxious sort of way, lol. The ruins were generally fun and interesting up top, and fairly linear below ground or inside.
I feel the same as you about Morrowind's uniqueness and the excitement of discovery of landscape and history, and the immersiveness.
In Skyrim I was generally most pleased with the variety and uniqueness of each cave. The claustrophobic feeling of Oblivion caves was gone, the interesting/curiosity factor of Morrowind caves was back in, and yet they kept the complexity of the Skyrim cave systems lower and a bit more easy to navigate, so the frustration of feeling so completely disoriented was lessened. Nordic tomb ruins however tended to feel repetitive and sometimes convoluted - but the Dwemer ruins in Skyrim were the worst, for me. Though the layouts changed, I always felt like what was inside was typical and expected each time, with a couple of fun exceptions. A highlight however for an underground cave/Dwemer system was Blackreach. Good job on that, Bethesda team! Lovely.
I felt that the quests and storytelling were done the best in Skyrim. History and lore were woven well into the quests, with explanation from NPCs through dialogue, which really helped. I remember struggling, in Morrowind, to just orient myself to what was going on in that world - and to have to pick up a LOT of books and READ...and read, lol. It took a long time for me to understand what I was doing there, as this dropped-off prisoner, why I might be significant, and why it even mattered in the context of that world. Skyrim did a much better job of "teaching" you by holding your hand a bit better, on what your role might be or could be, and what your choices or paths might be, before you. While I might not like my hand held on world exploration, I do want a sense of what my purpose might be (if I choose it to be) in the story arc, and I don't mind a bit of exposition from NPCs guiding me toward the idea. (Though neither do I want to feel pigeonholed or forced into it.)
It was definitely interesting how each of these three Elder Scrolls games approached suggesting to you what you could do or what your role might be in their world. I did like the freedom and mystery of Morrowind's approach. It took the lightest hand in giving you a direction. More like clues to follow and mysteries to tantalize you into possibly exploring the main quest line than a "Oh my gosh, you're the chosen one, it's got to be You! Go do This!" (The only sense of that in Morrowind is the game's intro cinematic, where Azura's voice speaks to you in terms like that. Once you're actually dropped off on the island, it's just kind of "Hey, go take this package to so-and-so, okay? Like, if you don't mind. But whatever... * *shrug* *")
I can't agree with you. Skyrim caves and dungeons too different from each other especially compere to the Oblivion dungeons and caves much more fun to explore. Sometimes you enter random cave and that cave end up like falmer cave or dwemer ruin.
Daggerfall is an actual open world
You should do this with the three fallout games.
morrowind forever :)
skyrim has the best open world
oblivion has the best writing
morrowind is the best RPG
Morrowind and Oblivion are close to size and diverse bioms, but none beat the nature in Skyrim. The mountains in Skyrim are an art work, and navigating around the world is fun, not baren like Morrowind or unexciting like Oblivion. Every Dungeon in Skyrim is unique and Id rather walk from Whiterun to Rorikstead than Balmora to Pelegia because its not too bad for a no carriage trip.
Did you just say Morrowind has barren landscape?
Skyrim is a good game but it's the worst Elder Scrolls game.
@@justclauz8746 He did and it does
Oblivion was my first Elder Scrolls game. Despite that Skyrim is my favorite. The open world was a perfect mix of "IDK Figure it out" and "Hey here's a marker on your map that goes somewhere". For cities Oblivion only takes it because I like the fantasy feel. I will say utility wise Skyrim hit the nail on the head for immersion, functionality, and looks. The smaller scale and having every character named with voice line no matter how generic made it feel more real. There are some aspects I like about Morrowind and Oblivion but after playing Skyrim they are very plane and boring not to mention, people praise Morrowind for its other worldly look but I don't like it even in the slightest. Not even in Elder Scrolls online will I go to Morrowind . Oblivion had a very high European feel to it's world with grand castles and city walls surrounded by hills spiraling meadows, and forests. Now Skyrim being a newer game will have better terrain, it did everything oblivion did but better and the blending of all of the worlds biomes feel so good... except the road that runs north of whiterun where you go from grassy meadow to snow on a single pixel. I'd take Skyrim
nice video
Good job
Shivering isle ????????????? Best world for its size
Oblivion. Not even a question.
Nah every single cave copy paste except imperial city cities are boring. Skyrim cities more detailed and unique
Not to overreact but are you actually an insane person? Oblivions world is abysmally boring, repetitive and empty. The shivering isles, that is a great map. Not the main game though, I really don’t know how you came to that conclusion.
Agree that Morrowinds World is the most unique, but I like the amount of cool stuff I can discover in Skyrim more, in Skyrim there are so many more things to discover that are not marked on your map. (Sure there are a few of those in Morrowind too, but not nearly as many)
The one thing I disagree with is the dungeons. In Morrowind every Ancestral Tomb feels the same even more than Skyrims Nordic Ruins. And there are even more Ancestral Tombs than there are Nordic Ruins.
Skyrim for its immersive graphics, Morrowind for its unique environment and exploration methods
Morrowind for me too. And Oblivion for the good mood it brings me. Skyrim I disllike
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