I heard that the OFTD came from when Pierre tasted the rum for the first time and exclaimed “Oh Fuck That’s Delicious!” The couldn’t put that on the bottle, so they made up Old Fashioned Traditional Dark.
Scott, I've watched all your rum videos and I"m grateful for the perspective you've shared. You've helped me find my way to Hampden Great House and aged Hamilton and am very happy with the results. So I'm wondering if you've come across an independent bottling from my neck of the woods in Michigan. Burl and Sprig 23yr. They say it's from Panama column stills and then aged in bourbon barrels and presented at 45%. I'm intrigued and will pick up a bottle just for fun, but was curious if you'd come across it.
I was just looking into those folks. On their bottles they state Muskegon, MI as a product origin, but their About page reveals this as a bit misleading: "Currently, in our portfolio, we offer four award-winning Panamanian rums. These four rums are a collaboration between West Michigan Rum Co. and Las Cabras Distillery." So basically it's the same sourced multi-column rum as you get in Grander, Panama Pacific, etc., i.e. stuff that's presumably unobjectionable and less tampered-with than other rums in the region but also not offering the excitement that those weirdly high age statements would suggest. So, who knows? Not really my thing - I reviewed some Grander awhile back - but might be worth a punt.
you kind of made your own version of Hamilton 151 False Idol. I don't know if you can get it where you are but in SoCal it's pretty easy because Tiki is massive here and False Idol is in San Diego. I think Ed Hamilton lives part time in San Diego. The liter bottle is about $34. San Diego is the world capitol of Tiki . L.A. has 2 of the oldest Tiki bars in the country from the true period 60 years ago and Tong Hut is classic with a very nice rum selection. It's like stepping into the late 50's there and the jukebox reflects it
Yup! Ed's been doing a ton of different blends between his Diamond and Worthy Park distillates. (I reviewed the "Navy Strength," no access to the False Idol.) But my blend also has Bajan rum so it's better. :D
Depends on the Lemonhart! None of the iterations I've tried are subtle, I'll say that. I'd keep a bottle of the old Canadian version around if I could get it, but my sense is that I slightly prefer both Pussers Gunpowder and even the little Hamilton here over the current Lemonhart. But I also think it's fine for its job if it's the one you can get!
Hahaha, great reviews. I love the analogies. I am from the South (GA) and you are spot on with our affinity for smoke housing everything. This review got a few chuckles from me - and it also tells me exactly what I need to know about these two higher quality overproofs. While I enjoy Plantation XO immensely for what it is, I wonder what marvels they could accomplish without dosing. I can't just straight up switch from one rum to the next immediately without cleansing my palate. I feel like the aftertaste or lingering notes from the previous rum would contaminate my senses. I usually have a cracker or something starchy along with a glass of water before switching rums.
Thanks! I actually think *this*, the OFTD, is a pretty good demonstration of what Plantation (or whatever they rename themselves) are capable of. It's a lovely profile, and I think a little less fiddling with the blending and a little more time to deepen out that character would make for a terrific rum. If they just gave their WIRD stock a little time, found a good blend of ex-bourbon and ex-cognac casks, and popped that into a bottle at 43% or more - without sugar, calling it Ferrand Rhum Barbados 5yo or something, charging 25 bucks a pop - I think they'd keep 90% of their current audience and start attracting an Appleton/Foursquare crowd that's starting to get priced out.
@@differentspirits4157 Have you done a review of Smith & Cross. I just got a bottle of it and the aroma hits you in the face from almost an arms length away. Its a pure pot still Jamaican rum with no sugars added and a powerful profile. I will bet you would really enjoy it.
Scott Ferguson I think you’re right on with how Plantation can position themselves going forward. Being newer to the rum hobby, I see all hate for dosage and all the buzz for Foursquare, but can’t bring myself to drop the coin on a single bottle yet. Plantation (Pierre Ferrand/Alexandre Gabriel) clearly know what they’re doing, so wouldn’t doubt they’d hit that target if they chose to aim.
Scott Ferguson nice, would be curious to see how S&C compares against other famed Jamaicans and navy strengths. As someone trying to keep a minimal rum cabinet (6-7 bottles), I’m always looking for my favorite of a given genre.
That would be awesome. It is indeed a strong rum driven cocktail. Love the content you're making btw. Here in Holland we have a pelthora of Jenevers to taste alongside what you and i love to drink.
I heard that the OFTD came from when Pierre tasted the rum for the first time and exclaimed “Oh Fuck That’s Delicious!” The couldn’t put that on the bottle, so they made up Old Fashioned Traditional Dark.
Scott, I've watched all your rum videos and I"m grateful for the perspective you've shared. You've helped me find my way to Hampden Great House and aged Hamilton and am very happy with the results. So I'm wondering if you've come across an independent bottling from my neck of the woods in Michigan. Burl and Sprig 23yr. They say it's from Panama column stills and then aged in bourbon barrels and presented at 45%. I'm intrigued and will pick up a bottle just for fun, but was curious if you'd come across it.
I was just looking into those folks. On their bottles they state Muskegon, MI as a product origin, but their About page reveals this as a bit misleading: "Currently, in our portfolio, we offer four award-winning Panamanian rums. These four rums are a collaboration between West Michigan Rum Co. and Las Cabras Distillery." So basically it's the same sourced multi-column rum as you get in Grander, Panama Pacific, etc., i.e. stuff that's presumably unobjectionable and less tampered-with than other rums in the region but also not offering the excitement that those weirdly high age statements would suggest. So, who knows? Not really my thing - I reviewed some Grander awhile back - but might be worth a punt.
you kind of made your own version of Hamilton 151 False Idol. I don't know if you can get it where you are but in SoCal it's pretty easy because Tiki is massive here and False Idol is in San Diego. I think Ed Hamilton lives part time in San Diego. The liter bottle is about $34. San Diego is the world capitol of Tiki . L.A. has 2 of the oldest Tiki bars in the country from the true period 60 years ago and Tong Hut is classic with a very nice rum selection. It's like stepping into the late 50's there and the jukebox reflects it
Yup! Ed's been doing a ton of different blends between his Diamond and Worthy Park distillates. (I reviewed the "Navy Strength," no access to the False Idol.)
But my blend also has Bajan rum so it's better. :D
What is your rating of Lemonhart?!
Depends on the Lemonhart!
None of the iterations I've tried are subtle, I'll say that. I'd keep a bottle of the old Canadian version around if I could get it, but my sense is that I slightly prefer both Pussers Gunpowder and even the little Hamilton here over the current Lemonhart. But I also think it's fine for its job if it's the one you can get!
@@differentspirits4157 you are right, I should have been more specific… I was referring to their 151 version in line with this video!
Lol loudest lip smack in youtube history
Wait'll you hear the lip-smacking with the next 151 I have lined up...
Hahaha, great reviews. I love the analogies. I am from the South (GA) and you are spot on with our affinity for smoke housing everything. This review got a few chuckles from me - and it also tells me exactly what I need to know about these two higher quality overproofs. While I enjoy Plantation XO immensely for what it is, I wonder what marvels they could accomplish without dosing.
I can't just straight up switch from one rum to the next immediately without cleansing my palate. I feel like the aftertaste or lingering notes from the previous rum would contaminate my senses. I usually have a cracker or something starchy along with a glass of water before switching rums.
Thanks! I actually think *this*, the OFTD, is a pretty good demonstration of what Plantation (or whatever they rename themselves) are capable of. It's a lovely profile, and I think a little less fiddling with the blending and a little more time to deepen out that character would make for a terrific rum. If they just gave their WIRD stock a little time, found a good blend of ex-bourbon and ex-cognac casks, and popped that into a bottle at 43% or more - without sugar, calling it Ferrand Rhum Barbados 5yo or something, charging 25 bucks a pop - I think they'd keep 90% of their current audience and start attracting an Appleton/Foursquare crowd that's starting to get priced out.
@@differentspirits4157 Have you done a review of Smith & Cross. I just got a bottle of it and the aroma hits you in the face from almost an arms length away. Its a pure pot still Jamaican rum with no sugars added and a powerful profile. I will bet you would really enjoy it.
Working on it! I don't want to do it solo is the thing, since there are already so many S&C reviews out there...
Scott Ferguson I think you’re right on with how Plantation can position themselves going forward. Being newer to the rum hobby, I see all hate for dosage and all the buzz for Foursquare, but can’t bring myself to drop the coin on a single bottle yet. Plantation (Pierre Ferrand/Alexandre Gabriel) clearly know what they’re doing, so wouldn’t doubt they’d hit that target if they chose to aim.
Scott Ferguson nice, would be curious to see how S&C compares against other famed Jamaicans and navy strengths. As someone trying to keep a minimal rum cabinet (6-7 bottles), I’m always looking for my favorite of a given genre.
That mix looks like a good mix for a Mai-Tai!
I dunno, for me both of these are a hair young for mai tai purposes. Although I should do another mai tai video one of these days...
That would be awesome. It is indeed a strong rum driven cocktail. Love the content you're making btw. Here in Holland we have a pelthora of Jenevers to taste alongside what you and i love to drink.
@@robertoboertje353 I should really do a proper jenever episode...