MPC Update 2.11 & Dissecting the New Electric Piano Plugin
Вставка
- Опубліковано 19 лип 2024
- Patreon : / jorblovesgear
Keygroups on Gumroad : app.gumroad.com/jorb
Instagram : / jorblovesgear
Definitely think there's good changes in the update, I can only dream that the air flavor happened in part because of feedback from folks like me.
But my impression of the stage EP plugin, wish it was better for 150$. I will absolutely be making my own cheaper alternative collection of Rhodes samples.
EDT: Doing my post-upload stuff, digging around for details on the e piano plug in, I find that Air had previously released an e piano called Velvet 2, that seems to be quite similar.
I'm not claiming its the exact same, but it seems to be really, really close. May be new samples / different models, at a minimum. www.airmusictech.com/virtual-...
ANOTHER EDIT :
Spending more time with the plugin, there is a style called Real for each of the models. This is exactly what I was asking for, more complete dynamic range on each of the models. Big miss by me, honestly.
0:00 Intro
1:56 Mentions of the Key 61
3:02 Sounds Browser
5:47 Key Ranges
9:15 Side Bar (Junky Audio)
9:56 Setlists (Junky Audio)
11:04 New Insert Effects, AMP Sim & Flavor
18:08 Probability and Ratchets
12:42 Midi Monitor
22:52 Stage EP Dissection
Jorb getting an MPC made my MPC-ing WAY better.
Anyone into synths and gear not subscribed, is MISSING OUT ON THE BEST SYNTH UA-camR, BAR NONE.
Jorb mob!
As your loading keygroups and kits if your not gonna use it, and want to offload it press undo and it’s gone. If you forget and load a few into ram , multiple presses will get rid. Thanks to Mpc tutor for that tip.
Jorb: the sequencer is the most important part of my workflow
Also Jorb: I don't know how the step sequencer works
😂😂 I record in live, but smh got me
Very informative video. I am amazed that someone at Akai thinks that these plugins are worth $ 150 each...
But you can do all of this in standalone you are missing the point. What beat machine has this type of capabilities these plugins work in standalone akai know what they are doing in another 6 months they will come out with another set of plugins then we will be paying a 1000 dollars for their flagship plugins you can't even use most of NI komplete instruments in maschine.
@@brandonsmith2594 but the plugins are not that great, most are sample based and an fm synth plugin in 2022 is not worth 150 on any platform
@@brandonsmith2594 When looking in the groovebox / beatmachine category, for example the Roland MC-707 or even the MC-101 have at least comparable, if not better rhodes/whurli sounds and a much wider palette of instruments. Having the choice of spending $ 500 on a few at most average sounding plug-ins, I'd rather spend the same $ 500 on the Roland MC-101 in order to connect it to the MPC as an external sound module.
The idea of MPC plugins is great, but the quality is definitely not up to the current price.
Honestly kinda weird how Akai fans go in so hard for them, when other than the FM it's just a bunch of romplers
@@sammadden5540 I guess It depends on what type of music you are making I feel like this is what Akai has been missing is sounds I just feel like this is a great time to be living in with the amount of music you can get done in standalone
dude, you have cured my GAS with the stage piano. If you do that rhodes keygroup I will be the first buying it! :)
Nice overview!!
Good idea on sampling your Rhodes, I did mine (1977 88 suitcase) for the MPC Live, 4 velocity layers, and got a couple others multisampled electric piano samples from my pianos (Wurly 200a, Rhodes 1980 MK2, Pianet, CP60m and a Clavinet D6) that I plan to make too! Would be willing to share, better to have more than less :)
For the Mk1 and Mk2 sound, in my experience of owning and adjusting severals early and later Rhodes, you can make a post 74 Mk1 sounds like a Mk2 (and vice versa), the big differences are in the pre 74, because of mechanical changes in the construction of the piano!
Please share!
Would love it if you could share! ❤
I will trade for some other instruments for sure! I dont want to interfere with Jorb idea of releasing his own Rhodes piano as a sample pack
Hi. Ta for doing that. Well done. My mpc one hasn’t crashed yet. Also, for me the tuner will be very useful. Not just for when I record guitar and bass. But when I’m sampling Eurorack or any other analogue synth, it will be nice to tune on the way into the sampler.
The new FM plug in I might buy as I’ve been making some cool patches with it. Even though the interface is nothing like any other fm synth, it can sound cool and lots of modulation options.
Thanks for the samples! Single cycle wave files of synthesizer tones much apreciated if possible.
Good vid Jorb. Decent upgrade for me, not had any crashes or issues so far. Unlikely I'll invest in the plug ins unless they are best in class, don't grudge Akai doing it really, but they do seem pricey. btw the MIDI monitor has always been there, same style buttons on the bar at the top of the main menu, helped me quickly solve many a 'what the heck's going on here?' moment.
I wish they were more, but most of the plugins are multi-sampled keygroups in a new wrapper bundled with FX. The EP plugin sounds like 4 velocity layers for key-on and 4 velocity layers for key-off. The key-on layers seem like they're using great looping and envelope techniques to save space.
Tremendous! I can confirm had a few crashes on MPC KEYS when loading old projects. They will load but ive had two crashes so far
Can't you save the loaded projects as Keys projects, so they load in the newer format?
Try saving as a re-named file (don't overwrite the old file), as xxx.keys or something and see if when loading that, it still crashes?
In this house, we care about velocity layers and velocity switching 😌
Literally same
Someone ordered their Jorb extra spicy today 😂
That drag to remove automation is super helpful for deleting the annoying pad mutes that get recorded from time to time. It's a pretty good update but keygroups have been crashing my mpc as well, I put effects on em couldn't help it lol.
I was getting so pissed with the damn key range feature not allowing me to use both ranges at the same time lol.....thanks for that work flow clarification
No problem! I do think it's a good implementation, just not immediately clear
another jorb banger
Me, for 20min : hmmm, velocity
Lmao
I like your videos my guy
Cheers
Hey Jorb - fellow UA-camr here (Cap10NRG Music) just wanted to tell you regarding your comment about the data wheel not working on a menu (I think it was KeyGroups) I think it is a bug because at one point it stopped working on several menus for me and then magically came bake when I saved and reloaded a project.. WEIRD anyway great job man!
I think it may only appear when you have more than one page of presets but I'm not sure. It's the same with my MPC 1.
Dam man The MPC is crashing the Camera is Failing. Yet you still prevail
Lol it's definitely a problem on the key61. Crashing but what the key61 does well; it does it SO well that you look over the bugs
Hey @jorb, do you have a link to those drum samples? Couldn’t quite make out the name you mentioned in the video!
The Kounts memory bank, I believe
Any other thoughts on the EP instrument that's built-in, "Electric" I believe? Wurli is more important to me than Rhodes. Gonna go watch your MPC1000 to MPC Live 2 video to find out if you talked about it there. Thanks!
Not sure wher but I have said that I like it, if you're careful about velocity.
Not super accurate, persay, and the rhodes is a lot more convincing then the wurly.
Never more then half velocity I might even say
We are so lucky what we can do in standalone mode my god.
I reverted to 2.10.1 just because of all the bugs ... Great video though!!!
Yea I'm still on 2.10 😏
Jorb! You should do a video about your mixer or the different mixers you’ve had? 👀
I have one all about using it with mpc's! Which is helpful for thas and that only but yeah, maybe I will drop that in the backlog
@@JorbLovesGear Dude awesome thanks!
You had selected all the notes on the grid so the probability applied to all notes. I think.
I agree. I use it live and when it crashes it’s a drag.
I think the video showed the EP styles 'Soft' and 'Hard', but I've noticed there's a style called 'Real' - my ears are good enough to really notice a difference - can anyone speak to what that style is meant to be?
I added a comment, because I came across it earlier. Real seems to be a full velocity range, while soft and hard keep the full dynamic range, well, soft or hard
Hey man have you ever thought about making a video about processing signals coming out of the MPC with pedals? Feel like there isn't a lot of good videos on the topic.
check Malo beats and Ricky Tinez new collab video on this topic
Jorb has videos about connecting synths to guitar pedals. Same concept here. You could play one sound at a time, send the output to a pedal, and then back into the MPC and sample it.
Jorbenowski, I think the MPC Keys would be detrimental to your work flow. See how you use 1 hand on the MPC? Well on the keys the layout is spread too far, I had a SLMK3 and as a sequencer it was horrible.
Not because it wasn't good at sequencing, but the attention or my focus was now spanned over an excessively wider area than I was used to.
My peripheral vision was being exerted more for what my focus should have been if this makes any sense?
My ergonomics was now spanned over a larger work area than it should have been. I hated it.
This is all in context though, my current workspace is around 1.5 meters wide and as I count, has 8 synths, 3 rows, 2 under desk trays with other gear, then a rack with Interface/extras.
I try to pack as much gear in limited space as possible, it's taken me years to get right and I still have some residual gear that is not being used.
Sequencers should be of a size that can be used with 1 hand if needed, the MPC Keys seems to have the foot print spread too wide imo.
If you have never touched an Akai Force, check one out, for sequencing, they're sublime.
Can we talk about Bugs... Like what bugs have you encountered? I have not updated yet because of this reason... I heard there were many.
Should MPC live2 users have to pay for new plugins like "stage-EP", "Fabric" etc? Or can get free serial code?
Sometimes you just be like: i wish i could give this dude two likes.. good content bro.. prolly not for everybody.. i like it though.. and i hate everything.. ;)
Think i'll leave it until the next patch before i update. Doesn't add enough for me to risk added instability.
When you were changing probability you dragged either left and right across multiple notes. This selects them all. I find the step sequencer is best for changing single velocity/prob/ratchets etc.
🫡🫡🫡
👍🏾
It's saddening to hear about MPC crashing so much.
Can we use these plugins in standalone mode?
Always!
What file system did you format your ssd?
i think xfat? i also feel like you can format just from the mpc....but dont remember specifically
@@JorbLovesGear thx
Wait..,what?! Does the MPC 61 have more ram?! Where did you hear that?
All of the MPC Live/2/X/One have been on the same (4-year old) Single board computer. Just like the Maschine +.
If someone could hack the Linux-based SBC operating system that Akai uses, we could buy a sub $200 SBC and swap out our current mainboard for a 16gig board with a crazy better CPU.
I am looking to see, I remember it in a tweet, but now I'm thinking that was early and speculative...lol oh no
i like my warbles soft
I wish these were available on force :(
Same same
i need to bother and update my mpc, i need to know if they fixed the qlink lag or if i gotta sell it
Don't bother updating. 2.11.2 has more bugs than a Russian hotel room. What they've added is fantastic but a complete waste of time since core MPC functionality is borked. 🙄
Allot of presets are cheesy.. we should of atleast got a new plug in with the update.. I ain’t spending 500$ on it lol
No offense, but your MPC 1K vids are more fun to watch LOL. I've come to the conclusion, that MPC 1K weaknesses might be addressed by other "team -member" features, Whether modular or vintage board, or adjusting my plan. Limits often channel expression to greater concentration. Violin vs Piano. Hence the tiny no touch MPC 1k screen means I'm not in a phone like touch relationship with virutal switches. Something to be a said for a real switch. MOXF vs MODX. Thanks for all the work!
Buying these plugins is like buying a Roland Fantom interface for 500 dollars people are not understanding what they are witnessing.
Jorb, someone has made a video of your channel, complaining you only make videos as you're worried about your subscriber base.
This is the same content creator who had been attacking another content creator because they smoke weed. I won't mention John's name, but on his own Wix, he posted his bio where he in 84 was fired from his job for going to work stoned.
See the irony here? He is so insecure of what others do, he tries to put them down when he himself is no better, or if anything a worse example of what he is trying to preach.
I know you don't care, most don't either, just that he made a 9-minute video complaining about what you should be doing, rather than concentrating on his own dismal channel that has nothing to offer than negativity or maybe some music that is the same cookie cutter music he has been doing for years.
He offers nothing to his audience, where in comparison, your channel has a really cool vibe with a really relaxed approach to how things work with your work flow.
I love how you do things, that mic is your *hook* , it is 100% you. You should make a mic T shirt for merch, Loopop has hands, you have mic.
This aside, what you speak of has droves of info even for the layman, I can even keep up lol.
Thanks for doing what you do, your home is YT and you have a ton of people that care.
xD