I'd forgotten that Desmond not pushing the button resulted in the plane breaking up. Not sure what part was Jacob's plan and what part was the island's? There had to be a time loop, and it couldn't be broken or the paradox would destroy the world. Someone had to keep pressing the button until after the Oceanic Flight 815 arrived with the candidates, and until Desmond turned the failsafe key or the world would end. I like to imagine that Jacob sent Ben written instructions to build a runway, but he didn't want to do it, or delayed, so the island made other plans making Lapidas miss his flight, and setting up Desmond to not push the button when it was overhead, thus breaking it up. Not pushing it for several minutes was not as catastrophic then as what happened later. Perhaps the computer-interface had a program to prevent catastrophe, but still needed human will to do a proper reset, and without it things got out of control quickly. Ideally, they should have had a backup monitor in storage to plug it in, if it malfunctioned or got damaged as it did.
I still remember seeing this night it first aired and couldn’t believe it. Next to the pilot episode, this was hands-down the strongest and most shocking season opener. God, I miss this show.
@@FomorViceroy they're saying that Season 2's opener was more shocking. I'd agree. Desmond living in the hatch and seeing Jack and Locke staring down was the biggest WTF up to that moment
I love how stable and in charge Ben is in their community. The leader everybody listens to. The thing I hated about the follow-up seasons was the degradation and weakening of characters as Ben and Locke. Their confidence was satisfying to watch.
Ben is honestly one of the most compelling characters in anything I’ve ever seen. I actually really liked his degradation because here he feels he knows everything about the island whereas later on when he finds out he doesn’t his control starts to slip away and I think it’s clever how they showed that happening. Especially with Locke as well who believed until his end in what he knew but it turns out everyone knows the same about the island… frighteningly little…
@@teddywest-side6378 that’s true. It’s a nice character arc. But I always loved how they were the characters that were they only ones, truly in control and confident. Kinda sad how especially John got treated in the show.
@@user-hw8nr3mu8e yeah I get that. The writers definitely did get a bit lost (excuse the pun) in the finale seasons. They definitely did him dirty. I do like the final season for the episodes themselves but as a finale it let me down. It would have been cool to see at least Ben regain some of his power
@@teddywest-side6378 yes! Didn’t understand why Hurley had to become the leader instead of Ben (sure Ben would help, but really?) I like how the explanation was done in season 6 and I don’t know how I would‘vr liked to see the show end differently, but it was a bit of a letdown. The multiple life/dimension thing was a bit weird I guess. I think season 1 - 3 were the best, then It got a bit less and less imo (still great story and character development).
He was a psychopath. They can appear good and trustworthy as long as they have control The more control they lose, the more the mask slips and the real them is revealed
@@user-vh6ts9uf6c exceptional sound design for sure, seems rare these days Edit: I think also it's just how realistic it sounds; in real life there are't special effects or soundtracks, when disasters happen you do just hear the awful sound of structures and systems struggling and failing and being ripped and sheered apart and things being crushed and smashed and shattered all over the place, and the sound design here captures that chorus of destruction just perfectly
@@thomwhorkeAgreed. Personally the first 4 seasons will always be incredibly iconic to me and an indelible part of my late high school/early uni experience. But I would swap 5 and 6 for a movie containing the basic events of 316, Life & Death of Jeremy Bentham, LaFleur, Dead is Dead, Lighthouse & The End.
My theory is that the older woman in this scene is Amy, the former wife of Horace Goodspeed and Ethan’s mother. She is friends with Juliet here, much as they were friends in 1977. The tone between her and Ethan who is fixing Juliet’s stuff lines up with a mother and son interaction. This means that Ben and Ethan were weren’t the only survivors of the purge. Others could have included Amy and Tom. This would make sense why the Barracks others are different from the Temple types. The Barracks are where ex-DHARMA and recruited Others live.
All new or aspiring screenwriters need to watch this introduction on a loop until they understand how to properly insert comic relief into their scripts.
Very small things to appreciate. Ben says Goodwin’s name before he snaps his attention to him. He knows exactly where he is. And he waits a step for Goodwin to run to him. He’s the boss
That is one of the benefits of "watercooler TV" like Seinfeld, and the reason you shouldn't have your kids watch Star Wars through Jedi without a pause to think about what they've seen and imagine what happens next. Whether you should binge-watch a streaming series is up for grabs, depending on how the episodes are structured. Some don't have a "This is the episode where [blank] happened" structure.
They were never led by Richard. Back then they were led by Wilmore. Ben took a different direction with the others like Locke accused him of cheating by living in houses and using electricity
Something that always caught my eye here is when Juliet picks up a CD to put in the player, she picks up Speaking in Tongues by Talking Heads, but a totally different song actually starts playing. I like to imagine the writers realizing their first choice was a little too zany for this scene and making a last-minute swap 😂. Love this show
Thanks, I'd forgotten that. Not sure why they went outside to look at the sky, (other than for theatrical purposes for our benefit) unless that's what you do during an earthquake? I would think contacting the Flame to see what was happening would be the priority.
@@sandal_thong8631they went outside because they probably wanted to check the damage and see if everyone’s okay. then they heard something in the air, looked up and saw the plane
Once they introduced the time jumps and time loop, it pretty much meant they had even less free will as they thought. "What happened, happened," they say, but now it's almost everything that happened in that time loop had to have happened. Maybe how they treated other people could have changed to get them where they needed to be. But Locke had to have died as Smokey had already met his corpse and assumed his identity before meeting him after the Ajira landed and convincing him (as Christian) to fix the wheel, which pretty much ended the time loop.
Yeah, apparently books involving a girl getting her period aren't worthy of serious attention. We just had the movie based on that concept, _Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret_ bomb. And despite no offensive content, the MPAA rated it PG-13 so parents would discourage their under 13's from going to see a movie about 11-12-year old girls, and they didn't go. We've got to fight the censors.
Watching this now, why were they so inherently evil in this scene by immediately trying to infiltrate the survivors? The Others weren’t actually bad, so what was the point of this from Ben?
whether or not the others are bad or good (they have done both bad and good) it is said by multiple people its in bens nature to manipulate. My guess is he couldnt help himself and felt the urge to manipulate and infiltrate the survivors.
What about this scene comes off as evil? Ben is just interested in gathering intel which is why he asks Goodwin & Ethan to get lists but also to “not get involved”. This makes sense when you remember that Ben likes having complete control over every situation.
@@Davon85J You're right that it's Ben's control in full effect. I just get a sinister vibe from how he asked them to gather intel, and then of course Ethan just gives off bad vibes. I understand, but it honestly seems too played up for what Ben and the Others really are.
@@Davon85J it comes off as evil because Ben's orders of infiltrating the 815 survivors led to a lot of suffering and pain. Which obviously Ben would not have cared about really.
If I recall correctly, the island could move from one place to another and I think it just moved again and the magnetic field cought that plane and pulled it down ripping it apart. That's my theory.
My mom has the box set of it underneath the tv. I never watched it nor did I ever realize what the show was until now. Might watch it, but I’m just too busy and I’m not that interested lol.
Yep, it started in 2004, and kids born then are 18-19 years-old and haven't heard of it. Once they resorted to the time-jumps and time-loops it became pretty much predestination, where everything that happened had to have happened to prevent time paradox from destroying the world. So bad writing turned it from a compelling show to a nearly pointless one.
![Lost - Desmond predicts future for the first time [3x03 - Further Instructions]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2l2yVu7xFNc/mqdefault.jpg)
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I will never stop loving this show. I still remember how shocked I was by this intro... So awesome. There will never be a show like this.
The X-Files and Lost are the best shows of all times.
@@artembaranov Twin Peaks is up there too.
This intro woke me up. After that I watched season 2 again and it's as if I'd never seen it before.
A lot of this show was gibberish but was still very enjoyable
@@joeylittle3535 what do you mean by gibberish?
Remember on the office, when they met the warehouse workers?
Lol
Lol thats why im here now
@@happyburgers3817 bro i swear i typed in lost and it recommended this after watching the office clip
@@Jake-dh9qk same haha
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love how ben just thought of a plan on the spot
INTJ
It's why he was the leader
The "earthquake" was Desmonds system failure which knocked the plane out of the sky and brought the passengers to the island, all part of Jacob's plan
I'd forgotten that Desmond not pushing the button resulted in the plane breaking up. Not sure what part was Jacob's plan and what part was the island's? There had to be a time loop, and it couldn't be broken or the paradox would destroy the world. Someone had to keep pressing the button until after the Oceanic Flight 815 arrived with the candidates, and until Desmond turned the failsafe key or the world would end.
I like to imagine that Jacob sent Ben written instructions to build a runway, but he didn't want to do it, or delayed, so the island made other plans making Lapidas miss his flight, and setting up Desmond to not push the button when it was overhead, thus breaking it up. Not pushing it for several minutes was not as catastrophic then as what happened later. Perhaps the computer-interface had a program to prevent catastrophe, but still needed human will to do a proper reset, and without it things got out of control quickly. Ideally, they should have had a backup monitor in storage to plug it in, if it malfunctioned or got damaged as it did.
I still remember seeing this night it first aired and couldn’t believe it. Next to the pilot episode, this was hands-down the strongest and most shocking season opener. God, I miss this show.
Season 2 episode 1
@@DS-nr1ht Correction: season 3, episode 1. A Tale of Two Cities.
@@FomorViceroy they're saying that Season 2's opener was more shocking. I'd agree. Desmond living in the hatch and seeing Jack and Locke staring down was the biggest WTF up to that moment
I remember when this originally aired, I was in high school. The very next day this was the talk of the ENTIRE day 😂😂😂
I got into it during season 2 with the mystery of the Hatch.
Years after seeing this TV show, I've realized it's not just science fiction but a horror plot.
I love how stable and in charge Ben is in their community. The leader everybody listens to. The thing I hated about the follow-up seasons was the degradation and weakening of characters as Ben and Locke. Their confidence was satisfying to watch.
Ben is honestly one of the most compelling characters in anything I’ve ever seen. I actually really liked his degradation because here he feels he knows everything about the island whereas later on when he finds out he doesn’t his control starts to slip away and I think it’s clever how they showed that happening. Especially with Locke as well who believed until his end in what he knew but it turns out everyone knows the same about the island… frighteningly little…
@@teddywest-side6378 that’s true. It’s a nice character arc. But I always loved how they were the characters that were they only ones, truly in control and confident. Kinda sad how especially John got treated in the show.
@@user-hw8nr3mu8e yeah I get that. The writers definitely did get a bit lost (excuse the pun) in the finale seasons. They definitely did him dirty. I do like the final season for the episodes themselves but as a finale it let me down. It would have been cool to see at least Ben regain some of his power
@@teddywest-side6378 yes! Didn’t understand why Hurley had to become the leader instead of Ben (sure Ben would help, but really?) I like how the explanation was done in season 6 and I don’t know how I would‘vr liked to see the show end differently, but it was a bit of a letdown. The multiple life/dimension thing was a bit weird I guess.
I think season 1 - 3 were the best, then It got a bit less and less imo (still great story and character development).
He was a psychopath. They can appear good and trustworthy as long as they have control
The more control they lose, the more the mask slips and the real them is revealed
I remember replaying this scene back in the day over and over. It was so good.
Still get chills when seeing that plane break apart 😄
Man when I saw this live, I was shooketh back in the day! This and the Desmond intro in season 2 were the best.
I love the sound where the plane breaks
Same here. Used to watch it over and over again. Not sure why!!
@@user-vh6ts9uf6c exceptional sound design for sure, seems rare these days
Edit: I think also it's just how realistic it sounds; in real life there are't special effects or soundtracks, when disasters happen you do just hear the awful sound of structures and systems struggling and failing and being ripped and sheered apart and things being crushed and smashed and shattered all over the place, and the sound design here captures that chorus of destruction just perfectly
The first 3 seasons of this show were PEAK television, period.
Are you finn balor fan ??
First 6 seasons.
Agree after that it lost its way
season 4 started off rough but i’d argue the last few episodes of s4 are the best in the show
@@thomwhorkeAgreed. Personally the first 4 seasons will always be incredibly iconic to me and an indelible part of my late high school/early uni experience. But I would swap 5 and 6 for a movie containing the basic events of 316, Life & Death of Jeremy Bentham, LaFleur, Dead is Dead, Lighthouse & The End.
My theory is that the older woman in this scene is Amy, the former wife of Horace Goodspeed and Ethan’s mother. She is friends with Juliet here, much as they were friends in 1977.
The tone between her and Ethan who is fixing Juliet’s stuff lines up with a mother and son interaction. This means that Ben and Ethan were weren’t the only survivors of the purge. Others could have included Amy and Tom. This would make sense why the Barracks others are different from the Temple types. The Barracks are where ex-DHARMA and recruited Others live.
Still today....this is one of the best tv series ever.
Finally a good quality version
All new or aspiring screenwriters need to watch this introduction on a loop until they understand how to properly insert comic relief into their scripts.
"...well I guess I'm out of the book club"
3:09 probably the most realistic plane crash sound on tv
I hate that scene because its so realistic and scary. If you listen really close after the wing breaks off you can hear a woman scream
Very small things to appreciate. Ben says Goodwin’s name before he snaps his attention to him. He knows exactly where he is. And he waits a step for Goodwin to run to him. He’s the boss
just realised juliet almost says "on this island" but gets cut off by the commotion right before it's revealed this is all happening on the island :o
After every Lost episode there use to be such huge discussions everywhere.
That is one of the benefits of "watercooler TV" like Seinfeld, and the reason you shouldn't have your kids watch Star Wars through Jedi without a pause to think about what they've seen and imagine what happens next. Whether you should binge-watch a streaming series is up for grabs, depending on how the episodes are structured. Some don't have a "This is the episode where [blank] happened" structure.
I remember. To me this was THEEE watercooler show before GOT. I've never seen a show have as much discussion behind it. I was a teen. Great memories
Remember watching this my jaw dropped when I saw it was on the island 🏝
Indeed.)
The others look much more civilised here compared to the hostiles led by Richard Alpert.
They were never led by Richard. Back then they were led by Wilmore. Ben took a different direction with the others like Locke accused him of cheating by living in houses and using electricity
😏 remember in The Office when Dwight goes to the warehouse?
Now it all makes sense
Absolutely horrifying
Something that always caught my eye here is when Juliet picks up a CD to put in the player, she picks up Speaking in Tongues by Talking Heads, but a totally different song actually starts playing. I like to imagine the writers realizing their first choice was a little too zany for this scene and making a last-minute swap 😂. Love this show
3:05
Imagine seeing that when you leave your house
imagine having a plan 3 seconds later
@@yamnayaseed356 thats harold finch for ya!
Finch and Nathan working together pre-machine days.
Season 3 had the best intro scene and the best cliffhanger.
Master manipulator
3:14,3:21 Oceanic Airlines Flight 815 crash
2:51
eu sei que o nerdcast te trouxe aqui.
Kkkkkkkk Só o Jovem Nerd pra fazer isso.
Siiiimmmm
opa!
At the moment when everything was shaking was when he didn't press the button in time and then that caused the plane to crash.
Thanks, I'd forgotten that. Not sure why they went outside to look at the sky, (other than for theatrical purposes for our benefit) unless that's what you do during an earthquake? I would think contacting the Flame to see what was happening would be the priority.
@@sandal_thong8631they went outside because they probably wanted to check the damage and see if everyone’s okay. then they heard something in the air, looked up and saw the plane
yeah
Oh Julia I miss you
i could never get into rewatching this show... its amazing but i just cant sit thru it
Once they introduced the time jumps and time loop, it pretty much meant they had even less free will as they thought. "What happened, happened," they say, but now it's almost everything that happened in that time loop had to have happened. Maybe how they treated other people could have changed to get them where they needed to be. But Locke had to have died as Smokey had already met his corpse and assumed his identity before meeting him after the Ajira landed and convincing him (as Christian) to fix the wheel, which pretty much ended the time loop.
It's a big island.....
Can't see in the dark Started 10
Pass
Now 346
People wacing in 2024
griaz
Please somebody tell me, which King's books was it? i can't see and it's killing me
Carrie.
Yeah, apparently books involving a girl getting her period aren't worthy of serious attention. We just had the movie based on that concept, _Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret_ bomb. And despite no offensive content, the MPAA rated it PG-13 so parents would discourage their under 13's from going to see a movie about 11-12-year old girls, and they didn't go.
We've got to fight the censors.
Watching this now, why were they so inherently evil in this scene by immediately trying to infiltrate the survivors? The Others weren’t actually bad, so what was the point of this from Ben?
whether or not the others are bad or good (they have done both bad and good) it is said by multiple people its in bens nature to manipulate. My guess is he couldnt help himself and felt the urge to manipulate and infiltrate the survivors.
What about this scene comes off as evil? Ben is just interested in gathering intel which is why he asks Goodwin & Ethan to get lists but also to “not get involved”. This makes sense when you remember that Ben likes having complete control over every situation.
@@Davon85J but the only reason he sent goodwin was because he knew no good will come from it, and that he can have juliet alone
@@Davon85J You're right that it's Ben's control in full effect. I just get a sinister vibe from how he asked them to gather intel, and then of course Ethan just gives off bad vibes. I understand, but it honestly seems too played up for what Ben and the Others really are.
@@Davon85J it comes off as evil because Ben's orders of infiltrating the 815 survivors led to a lot of suffering and pain. Which obviously Ben would not have cared about really.
How did Desmond cause this? I'm just asking because I can't remember.
He didn't push the button in time and caused an electromagnetic power surge.
i always couldnt stans this character
What was the point of sending Ethan and the other guy to the survivors tho? They basically sent them there to get killed.
Watched a lot more episodes and now I know, they sent them there to find pregnant women and kids for their experiments.
Ben wanted Goodwin to be killed.
@@yaboy1689it was also to assess a possible threat and keep Intel on their activities. How many are there where are they staying etc
Oceanic Flight 815
still curious why this is listed as talking heads just because the album cover is there.
No big deal, I'll fix it lmao.
Ethan is Officer Prez from The Wire
Lol no it’s not!!! Not even close.
So Ethan wasn't a bad guy after all. Just doing dirty work for Ben
He was both
Ethan and Goodwin may have been bad guys but in the end they were just following orders
With this logic the nazis weren't bad guys
If I recall correctly, the island could move from one place to another and I think it just moved again and the magnetic field cought that plane and pulled it down ripping it apart. That's my theory.
That's because Desmond didn't push the button in the hatch, that's the real explanation. :)
You don't need a "theory" for this, the show tells us that Desmond caused this
Theory? You mean the episode that explains it in great detail?
Did you even watch the show?
My mom has the box set of it underneath the tv. I never watched it nor did I ever realize what the show was until now. Might watch it, but I’m just too busy and I’m not that interested lol.
Why dafq would you write this comment then
Yep, it started in 2004, and kids born then are 18-19 years-old and haven't heard of it. Once they resorted to the time-jumps and time-loops it became pretty much predestination, where everything that happened had to have happened to prevent time paradox from destroying the world. So bad writing turned it from a compelling show to a nearly pointless one.
cool
one of the worst shows of all time...
*Best
I believe you misstyped my good sir