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King Shark is fan service. He has had a lot of pages, both script and comic, devoted to him in the last decade. I dont get it either. I think it is a "Sparkly Vampire" situation.
I actually preferred Idris “Not Deadshot” over Will Smith’s Deadshot. Seemed like Idris was actually acting and portraying an actual character, versus Will Smith being Will Smith.
Some actors just play themselves in varying degrees, and are absolutely phenomenal at their craft. Case in point Denzel Washington. Not everyone has to be method like Daniel Day Lewis to be a great actor.
I feel like everyone’s watched cosmonauts video and is now saying this shit, in my opinion will smith was brilliant as deadshot he was the best character in the movie and at times I forgot it was even will smith portraying him
To me Idris was being Idris to his walk, to his typical maneurisms. He was the same guy he always is. I guess i watch more of his films to notice this than most🤔😔
"No one likes a showoff." "Unless what they're showing off is dope as fuck." "Fuck... that's true." This little exchange nearly made me choke. Cena's delivery is something else here.
King Shark was surprisingly heartwarming and funny. Was this movie perfect? No, but it’s fun and it shows how DC should let their directors have full control instead of meddling with their work
Studios meddling in creative production has like a 0.001% success rate. Yet they continue to do it. It's the perfect example of people who need to put their ego aside and let the experts do the work and yet, can't. And sadly, it translates across all walks of life.
I am unfamiliar with King Shark in the comics. I heard a rumor that some comic aficionados were a bit upset because King Shark in the comics is actually pretty smart. Kind of like what they did to Bane in Batman and Robin.
I still find it funny that Captain Boomerang was more useful in this movie’s first 5 minutes than he was in the entirety of the last Suicide Squad movie.
Actually that joke didn't work. For me, TDK and his powers looked like they would've been really cool for action scenes and the actor Gunn got to play him is really good. So to just see that potentially cool character wasted on a dumb gag was disappointing.
@@gamemediafan1714 That's what made the opening red herring really stick the landing. Relatively big name actors getting killed off even though they seemed to have potential was legitimately surprising, and that sets the tone that you will actually see some characters you enjoy die in the movie, and no, it's not a fakeout death.
Regardless of quality, I'd definitely say James Gunn's heart was in it. When DC absorbed him after being temporarily fired by Marvel, they told him he could literally do anything he wanted. And of all things, he decided to make a Suicide Squad movie. Mainly because he was actually a huge fan of the original comic series. Props to him for making a gutsy move and good for Warner Bros for staying the fuck away and letting the man create.
David ayer must be pissed right now. WB completely tore apart his creative vision and ruined his movie, the film we got barely resembled the one that he made. But then James Gunn comes in and WB lets him do anything he wants without any interference. It's good they're learning from their past mistakes, but I really want to see the original director's cut of Ayer's movie, before they cut out the character development and added in the hot topic bullshit
@@herloss448 the original promo pictures of joker didn't have it. Also there were scenes in the trailer where he didn't have it, like the one where half his face was burned and he was pulling the grenade pin with his teeth. Ayer's version of the movie had joker as the main villain, before they added in the stupid ass enchantress reshoots
@@herloss448 I get the hate on Leto as joker. Complete misunderstanding of who the joker is. However, my headcannon will forever be that leto isn't playing joker but a jason todd turned joker. I think his joker works if you think of it as kid Jason being recruited up by joker instead of batman. Explains the weird obsession with money and power and some of the edgey shit
I also love that, despite killing off Captain Boomerang early and eventually killing off Rick Flag by the end, both characters were put under a respectful, honorable light under James Gunn's direction.
The way Idris yelped at the rats was hilarious. This movie was a hell of a lot of fun. I didn't mind the development slowdown. Flawed, yeah, but it's not like the torture 2016 was.
I enjoyed this film well enough, I sense that it will become overhyped in peoples descriptions because it wasn't a pile of dog poo like the previous one was, it didn't do that well in the box office though so I hope the studios don't use that as an excuse to go back to the woke nonsense
@@4dstellatedhypercube558 I don’t know how people are calling the movie overhyped or overrated literally all over twitter people were saying the movie wasn’t advertised well. Then people actually watched it and love it so now people are calling it overrated 🤣
Honestly having seen this, I'd take Idris Elba over Will Smith any day. Absolutely nailed this role! It felt like Idris Elba actually played the character, while Will Smith played... well, Will Smith in a Deadshot costume.
To be fair to Will Smith he suffered from the first movie not being able to decide who was the "main character" as it seemed to shift between him and Harely. Both seemed to want the movie to revolve around them and their back story. So instead of a fleshed out character, we got two more in depth people that still felt like side characters.
I also really liked how the villain wasn’t just a dictatorship. It was a corrupt goverment . Bc as soon as the dictator is killed , some other evil basterd just takes over . Its a nice well thought out twist on the villain i havent seen since robocop . It shows you how in a struggling country there are many people to step into evil things just for money and powwer .
Then they pretend "free elections" come which is hilarious. Most of the world doesn't want free elections, and the west doesn't really seem to invested in them any more either.
I usually hate when a movie makes a joke or a gag multiple times but I thought the polka dot man seeing his mom gag was actually pretty funny. Somewhat edgy humor in a movie today is a huge win.
I think this is a great example of a movie who’s flaws don’t detract from the enjoyment that you get out of watching it, unlike the last Jedi. And in the end that’s really all that matters, being able to just have fun watching a movie is very rare nowadays but I had a good time.
Yup. This instalment of suicide squad was a nice little popcorn flick that was worth watching. A few laughs. Some decent action. No complaints. Would recommend.
It wasn't preachy. It wasn't condescending. It wasn't filling in character types for the sake of it. It was good. A fun couple of hours with a no-brains-required label. C'mon, a walking shark and an army of rats and the best Kaiju in a long time. What more do you need?
The only time I genuinely laughed was when Amanda Waller parodied her 'explaining the villains backstory' scene from the first Suicide Squad. She gave Peacemaker the *exact* same backstory as BloodSport with a completely deadpan, serious delivery. Brilliant
That's because you have absolutely no clue what this movie is all about. It's comic book made Tarantino style. A play with conventions and motives. It's made to be taken through special lenses. The professional movie critics, usually a joke, are right this time. It's a comedy gold when you realize that and watch the movie for what it really is.
And the bit with Elba about "unique abilities," his indignation at being so clearly disposable, and the way it set up their rivalry for the rest of the movie. Very well done.
Just goes to show how low the bar has sunk. Like imagine if one of these recent years slates of movies came out back in the 80s but back with 80s cg of the time, they would recall it as the worst year for movies ever. The writing of most modern movies are absolute shite
The first 10 minutes waa absolutely hilarious. I was cracking up seeing weasel struggling to not drown as soon as he falls in 😂😂 it was hilarious seeing everyone else get so violently murdered
It's really good, the critical drinker rarely thinks superhero movies and shows are good so him saying that it's not boring , means it's really fun and enjoyable to the average audience like you and me
This whole movie just sort of gave me a fun DND adventure vibe. From the "party" killing all the rebels on accident because they jumped to conclusions to the big boss and a slight but not groundbreaking twist at the end. Twists that turn characters against each other are always the most interesting. The Mummy (1999) sort of vibe. Fun, funny, and great characters.
It was great to because it subtly suggested to the audience that Waller was in some ways worse than the very villains she was blackmailing into national service
I really liked bloodsport instead of race swapping an iconic villain like Deadshot they took a D list villain and made him more prominent on his own merits. Also Idris performance was better because Will Smith’s ego won’t let him commit to being a villain while Idris was able to play a villain that had layers.
@@fleeplayTV All of the lines bloodsport had were originally deadshot. You can tell because there's some comedic lines and moments that were clearly written for Will Smith.
I love how the movie doesn't even try to make you empathize with Bloodsport because his daughter, given that it's clearly stated how of a shit father he is, even the man itself acknowledge he is a terrible influence for her, and by the end he manages to redeem his image in someway. Not like in the original where you were meant to like the psychopathic hired mercenary because deep within him he's just a father caring for his daughter and more bullshit.
@@Dee_rian Wrong. The Batman got a perfect 10 rating from IGN alone along with 3 oscar nominations and took the critics choice award. That's a masterpiece. Marvel has been trash since Infinity war
"Flawed But Fun" would have been a better title. I couldn't believe I actually had fun with a comic book movie since forever. Why I liked it more than typical comic book movies: * U don't know who's good and evil. It's not like Flash or Wonder woman could turn out to be evil in JL. * U don't know who would die in a Suicide Squad movie. There are actually some stakes.
@@kosherkingofisrael6381 - That'd be awesome if they did just randomly have someone chop her head off while she's fighting. Just imagine how stunned everyone watching would be. Lol.
“I’m gonna do my best to pick this film apart whilst avoiding spoilers” 10 seconds later... everyone dies on the beach apart from Rick flag and Harley😂
@Impersonal Immigrant I'm pretty sure most people who watched it, viewed it on a streaming service. I honestly think Theaters just aren't as popular as they once were. You can just watch movies within the comfort of your own home and if you're willing to dish out the cash, you can set up your own surround sound system with a 4k projector.
@Impersonal Immigrant because if you have HBO MAX, which lots of people do, you can watch it at home, in comfort, with no audience. Naturally tons people are going for that over going to the movies.
To me, I honestly had FUN and found it to be a complete BLAST!!! Honestly, I feel like this has got to be one of the best comic book films ever, and none of the fight scenes disappointed. But, as always, great points, The Critical Drinker!
This is what the 2016 one should've been from the start. All the characters were likable, a far better villain and most of all,not having your spotify album as the OST
Listen, this movie had a very forgettable villain as Starro. But yeah, he's more memorable than Enchantress. So that is an improvement indeed. What was my point again?
@@indranighoshal5232 Starro wins by default for being a giant alien starfish which is more memorable than a tribal goddess with tattoos. I felt more bad for him than her,where they try too hard to make me care
Haven't seen the movie yet. But credit where credit is due, cheers to James Gunn for embracing the comic book nature of this movie. I know he did the same with Guardians. And I know James Wan tried some of the same with Aquaman. Go big or go home, is all I will say. The last Suicide Squad was pretentious as hell. Edgy for no reason, no sense of awareness or irony. All under a PG-13 rating. They try to sell their story as "this is the real world, our world, all dark and gritty and there's crime and military and politics" and then oh, a f*cking ancient witch is the big bad. Really? THIS movie, a witch could pop out from behind any corner and you wouldn't bat an eye. It would fit and make sense. Again, I haven't seen the movie. And I HATED that first trailer. But I look at how over the top just the design of the guns are even, and it works. You thought Aquaman's Octopus was pushing it? Here's a talking shark with hands and legs.🤪🤪
Weasel drowning immediately before the movie even really begins is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. Such a perfect way to set the tone for the movie.
This movie is like the weird , fun-loving cousin of the DCEU He's got some strange hobbies and quirks, but he's the only one having any fun, while everybody else is kind of dead inside (except maybe Shazam who is like the youngest sibling that got caught up in the family drama)
The Harley and President part almost ruined the whole movie for me. The movie was doing a fucking GREAT job up until that point. The pacing hits a brick wall. I think if you cut that part out completely and speed up the part where they kidnap Dr. Who, the movie would be fantastic.
As in, never have El Presidente as a character, with the general guy always being the main villain, and cut directly from Harley being captured to her being tortured, fake-passing out, choking out the guard with her legs and escaping in a hail of bullets and bloodspray?
Yeah, while this was my favorite version of Harley, her mini side plot of romance with the president was awful. It felt so out of place that i almost stopped watching the movie. It felt like someone wrote that plot without reading the other parts of the script.
Even if it isn’t perfect, what I love about The Suicide Squad is how the movie handled its characters. Coming into this movie on my first watch, I was a little bit worried if it would basically become “Harley Quinn and Friends”. I was extremely happy that James Gunn allowed each character to have their chance to shine; and because of that, everyone I know who saw it had their own favorite character. Ratcatcher 2, King Shark and Bloodsport are my top 3 favorites, and I hope to see them return in more Suicide Squad movies and their own spin-offs. With that out of the way, I can definitely say that The Suicide Squad is my favorite movie of the year, so far! I hope Warner Bros can let James Gunn make more movies for DC, because there’s so much potential with what he can do next. #RestoreTheGunnVerse
@@FP194 I thought the rats did, which I thought was ridiculous. I thought of "death by a thousand cuts" but if each cut is only a quarter inch deep from a rat would you die? Good point though I didn't realize that when I first watched it literally came down to harley and rat girl saving everyone.
Not all the characters, i would have love to see more of the first team, not just to kill them all in maybe less than 10 minutes. They didnt shine, my favourite character die in a second, fuck i love cap boomerang, he deserv better
Not a single "fart in a mud reference", nowhere to be seen throwing up reference and a zero "are you serious" j. jonah jameson reference. So... I consider that a win for a movie review.
I think Gunn did an amazing job with this one. The visuals, soundtrack and the characters were off the charts, and although some of the writing wasn't always spot on, I've got to say it has been a while since I have enjoyed a movie as I've enjoyed this one.
At this point Elba is more entertaining than Will Smith. Smith at his height was a massive screen draw, but over the years lost his funny bone, takes himself way to seriously, and doesn't seem remotely like the same person.
He's not a trained actor that I can tell. He does his Will Smith schtick, and sometimes it fits the movie and is entertaining, and other times it doesn't. Elba had the humility to actually learn how to act I think.
I loved Rick Flag in this movie. He was an effective foil to Peacemaker's psycho patriotism. Especially at the end, he shows that while he is fighting for his country, he won't follow them blindly. An infinitely more rewarding character arc than "oh no my girlfriend is a witch, i am sad".
@@fortheloveofking @LudoPhobi4 has a good point about Flag's role as a 'patriotic foil' in the film but yeah... I too agreed with Peacemaker's reasoning at the end of the film.
@@sakulaeyr9819 Which when you throw in Bloodsport's pragmatism about the whole thing just really does a great job of exploring the 3 different belief systems at the fundamental core of each character
While I like Will Smith a lot, he wasn't good in the first suicide squad. Idris Elba does much more with a similar character. Idris is one of those actors who got big a bit too late. He's 48 now, and starting to look older. He's going to age out of roles he could have nailed 10 years ago. Sucks. Then again, Keanu.
Will Smith whenever he's casted as a serious badass doesn't work for the most part. Elba should've been DeadShot from the start. About his age that's not a problem,Samuel L Jackson in Pulp Fiction was around Elba's age now
Will Smith always plays Will Smith. It was like Eddie Murphy playing Rudy Ray Moore. All I kept seeing was Eddie Murphy in bad makeup and hair. Idris Elba played an actual character.
I was hoping knowing his lackluster performance in Fast 9 was a result of him putting all that effort into the guy wearing a metal soup bowl on his head. Happy to have seen that was indeed the case, and deserved his A-Game way more than the former.
Again, not a high bar. They made a bad movie that's somewhat fun. Okay, now make a good movie that's fun as well. And maybe then, you can start learning to do great movies that have awesome stories. And if you really put your mind to it DC, you can make excellent movies with incredible stories. Baby steps... is what I would say if this wasn't backed by fucking Warner Bros. It's sad to think that this constitutes as an above-average job for a million-dollar company.
I loved the characters here. Ratcatcher was incredibely lovable and and cried "NO" out loud when Polkadot man got killed, wich is something I very rarely do
SAME!!! I rolled my eyes when I heard he was going to be in it because... well... Polka Dot Man. They made him so cool and sympathetic and INTERESTING in the movie that when he went down I literally yelled at my screen! I really wished that "dimensional disease" thing came into play against Starro. (Harley should have been removed from the film altogether to allow more time with King Shark and PDM!)
It's sad that a movie simply being entertaining and not a vehicle for modern, angry and divisive political ideologies is such a rarity. I'll take it though. With both hands.
Movies have always been about political theatre… you’ve just recently pulled your head out of your ass and noticed. Just slide it back in and you’ll be happier.
Yeah, John Cena has been losing a lot of people’s respect recently. Funny how he’s playing a character named Peacemaker. More like Peacefaker. Motto should be: I cherish peace with all my heart. I don’t care how fake I must be to get it.”
@therock he did not have to do it, he chose to in order to advance his career and make more money...much more importantly, you have to think of the serious implications of the actual geopolitical claim being made
@therock The bigger issue at play is China controlling peoples freedom of speech beyond their borders they shouldn’t be able to control what an American can can’t say as it is a dangerous precedent one that has seeped in many other businesses because of that China money
“But Drinker, you loquacious lothario,” you hear me ask, “How can I enjoy a modern superhero movie without a giant steaming pile of identity politics?”
thanfully they managed to tone it down quite a lot in this movie. There is no fucking way it's a coincidence that the main team is composed of minorities and they kill of all the white males, but at least there were no "men suck" jokes.
I think the best writing in this movie was during the fight between Flag and Cena, with each representing a different side of patriotism. Flag as the well meaning soldier trying to protect his country, and Cena as the mindless drone that does whatever the government tells him, no matter how immoral. That was some genuinely good writing and it made me really relate to Flag, and mourn his death.
fun fact. Milton is born and raised here in my town and now the dude is a freaking legend around here. it was all over the news that a local got a role in a big movie production lol
I love the idea of this King Shark meeting Batman (Batfleck or Battison), and Batman slowly realising that while KS is dangerous, he's also remarkably easy to handle if you make friends with him.
***SPOILER WARNING*** I almost cracked a rib from laughing when we see Polkadot Man’s mom as a giant kaiju destroying the town! 😂🤣😂 Oh my god that was AMAZING!
Fun fact: David Dalmastian, the guy who plays Polka Dot Man is the guy who played one of Joker's henchmen in The Dark Knight Rises. Thomas Schiff. His name tag says "Officer Dawes". When Gordon gets shot. Indicating Rachel is the Joker's next target.
@@indranighoshal5232 Tarantino gore is on a level of its own. While this was gorey the only 2 parts that stand out to me is the stabbing of the heart and shark boy tearing the dude in half.
@@friedrice7876 that kill Bill scene you may leave with your lives but leave your limbs they belong to me now! Is some awesome shit you won't see outside of Tarantino
@@Thesavagesouls that's the problem that Harley actors will always run into when they try to recreate Arleen Sorkins voice and mannerism.. which is why I don't mind Kaley Cuocos portrayal.
@@Justaguythatcameby that is a good scene. I really enjoyed that one..I think she would do her self a favor if she ditched the accent and went with anything more organic to his she actually sounds.
While I think the scene with Harley and the Dictator was a bit too long, I think it did a lot for her character progression, and was at least relevant to the story by having her shoot the main Dictator.
What was with the birds getting flamed after that? I felt it was going on for too long too but overall didn't mind it... until it led to the birds. Was it to demonize that colonel dude or whatever? Felt unnecessary.
True it did wonders for Harley's character, but I wonder what the overall effect was with the dictator's death. Sure there was a "power grab" but I'm sure the old dictator would've used his army the same way as the new dictator if he learned the SS were destroying Starro. The dictators are functionally the same in their actions in this movie.
Rat-Catcher II, Polk Dot Man and King Shark really grew on me and I like them. I am sick of Harley Quinn, years of comic fandom have turned her from a funny sidekick from BTAS to this super powered death machine, except she has no powers, no gear, no training, she just "Crazy", that is not a power.
I had never heard of them, but ended up truly caring. Great movie, it's only failt for me was lacking a bit of "show, don't tell" (the flashback in the bus was great, but why tell me a guy shot Superman without showing it?!)
As soon as her escape scene started, I thought, "Oh Christ, they're gonna have this 120lb woman kill dozens of trained soldiers single handedly, aren't they?" And sure enough.... oh, except they added some special effects to distract from the choreography. In a movie with a talking humanoid shark and a Godzilla-sized starfish, watching Margot Robbie (yet again) outfight/kill groups of grown men was what dented my suspension of disbelief.
When she was chained up and lifted herself and a soldier 1.5 times get size from the ground, I was willing to buy into some level of super-strength, and with that the following fights (ignoring that no soldier catches her with a bullet) were enjoyable
YES! That was such a twist! And funny! And it's even telegraphed a little at the beginning with the pleasant exchange between the two guards (one goes to get the other coffee and the first guy says "thanks" or something). But it's still completely unexpected. The action takes you right out of it. Such a great way for the movie to set tone.
This movie was such a pleasant surprise James Gun just nailed it, Ratcatcher and King Shark were my favorite but goddamn Idris Elba makes any movie 1000x better!
I wouldn't go that far, but I also keep asking myself why the fucker isn't in more movies, especially action ones. He's just perfect as a badass. Pacific Rim, Dark Tower, and so on. Hate on the movies all you like, but the dude looks great as the badass character.
This film definitely does NOT deserve to be labeled a “flop” it was Miles above the original and I’ve already seen it Twice in theaters when I could Barely power through the previous once
"Flop" refers to how it performs in terms of viewership and net income, not quality. Something can be much better than something else and still completely flop where the other succeeded. The first Suicide Squad made a lot of money despite being utter garbage. So far this one looks like it'll struggle to make back its budget, which would make it a flop. Maybe positive reviews like this will help it dig itself out of a hole, and of course there will be endless excuses about HBO Max streaming to muddy the waters in terms of how well the film actually did, but at the moment it's looking extremely floppy.
The ending battle scene with Rat-catcher was so beautiful. The music, taika waititi's one liner and the imagery all lined up so well. Who knew suicide squad would bring all the feels.
To be fair to Will Smith, he was actually supposed to star in this movie as Deadshot, but his filming schedules clashed, so they brought in Idris Elba instead.
I thought Will just wasn’t interested in respiring the role (or wasn’t offered a contract to respire it). I know Jai Courtney didn’t really have interest to respire the role so that’s why he was killed off quickly
I thoroughly enjoyed it. It does bog down with the silly Harley subplot. I was surprised by some of the splatter! John Cena was fantastic. *SPOILER* It pleased me that Polka Dot Man died happy, he was so depressed until he unleashed his power on giant mother.
my fav part was how james was able to make us feel bad for these "criminals" there's a couple of feel good moments throughout even one for the star fish boss
For Ratcatcher 2 especially, you understood that the only thing she knew was using rats to get by, so it would make sense that she would use that technology to get things she needed, it would also make sense that her abilities and tech would get her sent to the same prison everyone else with abilities/tech go to. So it made sense that she was compassionate and also a little innocent to some degree.
Whos death did you care about? The only one with some development and enough screening time to care, was polka dot man, and that character was deranged with suicidal thoughts. What a great guy to root for! NOT! The only death I felt a little inside was Rick Flags, but even that was fuelled by dissapointment, not sadness.
@@ShotgunShogun49 Seen Rick Flag's a million times before too. The death of respected leader/mentor whose noble principles rub off on the rest of the team. Well, a bit anyway. Flag's death was unexpected. Like you think he's gonna survive but nope, that thing is going straight into his heart. Gunn makes absolutely sure that we understand that _he is dead_ . Plot armor? Shit just got real. Yea, his death hits hard. That's the point. These tropes and the entire Hero's Journey are as old as storytelling itself. The point is that no matter how silly the characters or setting, if you do them right they work and we lose ourself in the story. Gunn understands this more than most directors.
I was there when Mad love hit the shelves so I feel qualified to say that this is the closest anyone has gotten to the Harley I know and love. It’s unimaginably uncomfortable for me to see her so overly sexualised.
This movie actually made me care about its characters. The Peacemaker and Rick Flag fight kept me on edge because I knew that either of them could die and I wanted both to live.
@@Hasbulla761 It made complete sense that he was the one to kick the bucket, fight did a great job of showing peacemaker was just a little bit better. If flag had survived it would have felt like he had protagonist armor after peacemaker's buildup throughout the film
The scene when rhe shark tries to eat ratcatcher while shes asleep, and then she says he wouldnt do something like that, he has very kind eyes XD, it made me laugh a lot
Really enjoyed this film. Large portions of Harley Quinn scenes could be removed though as they play no significance to the plot. Idris smashed his role and I'd love to see more of him as this character
I had extremely low expectations for this movie and almost didn't watch it. I was basically peer preassured into it by my friends who wanted to watch it. Im so glad i watched it. I had a blast the characters grew on me massively especially harley who i couldn't stand in suicide squad
Me too I watched it at a friend’s birthday party I hadn’t watched the first one and figured this one would be as bad due to what I had heard about the first one, watched it, was pleasantly surprised and I would even watch it again
That's almost my experience to a "T." Given how god awful the first one was, plus how bad the trailer for this one was (they only showed the cheesy jokes and they were out of context), I expected nothing from this movie. But damn was it SOOOO fun and entertaining!
honestly, i never thought a cynical alcoholic with a nack for analysis would be my go-to channel for movie reviews a couple of years ago ... but man, you are honest, kinda funny in a "not now, grandpa"-way and call out the same bullshit i've grown to hate. cheers to you mate, hope your liver keeps working a little while longer
I went in expecting a disappointing mess and found myself more than once laughing out loud and really enjoying the film and the fact it wasn't packed to the gills with pandering ti the SJW crowd was a breath if fresh air
Really depends on the director and what the executives ask of him/her. James Gunn usually gets a lot of freedom and he's good, so he usually makes good films... I'm always worried when they hire nobody's or activists... See Rian Johnson
@@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564 i really don’t think Rian was given all the freedom to do TLJ the way he wanted. if that were the case, we’d probably have the original Solo cut.
@@roman.nose.enjoyer No, Rian Johnson was in line with Kennedy so he was given free reign, whereas the Solo team gave Kennedy headaches by being both unprofessional and very different from what Kennedy wanted.
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great review. idris alba is likely a shot at Will smith, but personally i thought will smith was most of the casting issue with part 1.
Do a review of Her with Joaqiun Phoenix.
King Shark is fan service. He has had a lot of pages, both script and comic, devoted to him in the last decade. I dont get it either. I think it is a "Sparkly Vampire" situation.
Please review Lt jangles.. awesome Australian comedy/action or faction for a new genre..
Awesome review and keep on keepin on.
Finally a video about this movie that doesn't follow the false narrative of it being a "flop."
I actually preferred Idris “Not Deadshot” over Will Smith’s Deadshot. Seemed like Idris was actually acting and portraying an actual character, versus Will Smith being Will Smith.
Yeh Idris Elba’s Bloodsport is honestly far better than Will Smith’s Deadshot, and Idris nailed his role
Some actors just play themselves in varying degrees, and are absolutely phenomenal at their craft. Case in point Denzel Washington. Not everyone has to be method like Daniel Day Lewis to be a great actor.
Agreed, I'd much rather see bloodsport back instead of deadshot personally
I feel like everyone’s watched cosmonauts video and is now saying this shit, in my opinion will smith was brilliant as deadshot he was the best character in the movie and at times I forgot it was even will smith portraying him
To me Idris was being Idris to his walk, to his typical maneurisms. He was the same guy he always is. I guess i watch more of his films to notice this than most🤔😔
"No one likes a showoff."
"Unless what they're showing off is dope as fuck."
"Fuck... that's true."
This little exchange nearly made me choke. Cena's delivery is something else here.
@Miguel Messina Yeah, he might have actually had a decent career if he wasn't always going to be compared to The Rock.
Too bad he’s got no spine and sold it to China
John Xina, you mean.
That whole scene at the “enemy” camp was perfect from start to finish.
Im no cena fan but 90% of everything he said this whole movie had me dieing laughing
King Shark was surprisingly heartwarming and funny. Was this movie perfect? No, but it’s fun and it shows how DC should let their directors have full control instead of meddling with their work
I really liked this version of King Shark, he's a giant puppy who's a little too strong and hungry
@@agrubohub4009 Yeah. And he’s kinda like a little child
Unless we're talking about ww84
Studios meddling in creative production has like a 0.001% success rate. Yet they continue to do it. It's the perfect example of people who need to put their ego aside and let the experts do the work and yet, can't. And sadly, it translates across all walks of life.
When he ran up behind the guard i was laughing for about 5 minutes, i found that so funny.
Edris and Cena’s chemistry is lightyears beyond Jason and The Rock.
Jason who
@@The_Patbey Statham
@@TerryAE Gotcha, thanks
@@The_Patbey vorhees
@@TerryAE who’s that?
"Sylvester Stallone does a brilliant job with the voiceover, portray him like Rocky but with even more brain damage" LOL. Good one, Drinker.
@Homie I- lame song, its not relaxing in any way.
I've been seeing the Rocky movies recently, and forgot just how dumb he is portrayed, so I enjoyed this even more.
Makes me wonder just how dumb Manshark is in the movie.
@@BillPeschel he picks things up and puts them down.
I am unfamiliar with King Shark in the comics. I heard a rumor that some comic aficionados were a bit upset because King Shark in the comics is actually pretty smart. Kind of like what they did to Bane in Batman and Robin.
I still find it funny that Captain Boomerang was more useful in this movie’s first 5 minutes than he was in the entirety of the last Suicide Squad movie.
Didn't Captain Boomerang die like immediately in the first movie?
and he went through a lot of emotions in just 20 secs than the first one.
@@comingviking what no. Only Slipknot and Diablo (vaguely) died in the 1st movie.
Ugh, hated that he died. Still a good movie.
@@comingviking that was Slipknot, boomerang lasted the whole movie
King Shark stole every scene he was in. “Nom Nom”
The fact that Sylvester Stallone voiced him makes it even funnier.
my favourite line came from him
ratcatcher2 " you wouldnt eat your friends would you?"
king shark "NoOoOooO?"
:D
Fr 😮
the fact that it sounds like they barely had to change his voice at all made it even funnier for me.
Hand.
@@LTJfan Yes, that is your hand Nanaue, very good.
"Where's your mother now?"
"Everywhere"
*group shot*
That sh*t killed me.
I wasn't looking at the screen and when I saw the scene it scared me. Mama king shark is spooky 😳
@@neverknowaboutthis9736 If you look closely Sebastian has tiny glasses
That night club dance scene with him too. 🤣
The club scene with his mom is one of the most disturbing things iimvnjviunenbuajncjds....
@@jasoncrandall5320 I’ve seen worse
The command to "Deploy TDK", the tense, dramatic power-pose, and the immediate and total ineffectiveness of his superpower gave me a real chuckle.
He brought The Three Stooges to a gun fight XD
that and nathan fillion's body thrusting/ facial expressions when he was using his hands, had me cracking up
You can see why he was part of the diversion force !🤣
Actually that joke didn't work.
For me, TDK and his powers looked like they would've been really cool for action scenes and the actor Gunn got to play him is really good. So to just see that potentially cool character wasted on a dumb gag was disappointing.
@@gamemediafan1714 That's what made the opening red herring really stick the landing. Relatively big name actors getting killed off even though they seemed to have potential was legitimately surprising, and that sets the tone that you will actually see some characters you enjoy die in the movie, and no, it's not a fakeout death.
I was extremely impressed that Cena learned english for this role!
He was in this? I didn't see him anywhere
All i saw tho was flying chrome toilet seat!?
Does being made in China make him more or less American? 🤔
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!
You could still hear the chinese accent though
Regardless of quality, I'd definitely say James Gunn's heart was in it. When DC absorbed him after being temporarily fired by Marvel, they told him he could literally do anything he wanted. And of all things, he decided to make a Suicide Squad movie. Mainly because he was actually a huge fan of the original comic series. Props to him for making a gutsy move and good for Warner Bros for staying the fuck away and letting the man create.
David ayer must be pissed right now. WB completely tore apart his creative vision and ruined his movie, the film we got barely resembled the one that he made. But then James Gunn comes in and WB lets him do anything he wants without any interference. It's good they're learning from their past mistakes, but I really want to see the original director's cut of Ayer's movie, before they cut out the character development and added in the hot topic bullshit
@@howler9171 yeah shut up dude .damage joker is his vision .he still garbage
@@howler9171 it will be just like the Justice league. Marginally better but not worth the money or its run time. :)
@@herloss448 the original promo pictures of joker didn't have it. Also there were scenes in the trailer where he didn't have it, like the one where half his face was burned and he was pulling the grenade pin with his teeth. Ayer's version of the movie had joker as the main villain, before they added in the stupid ass enchantress reshoots
@@herloss448 I get the hate on Leto as joker. Complete misunderstanding of who the joker is. However, my headcannon will forever be that leto isn't playing joker but a jason todd turned joker. I think his joker works if you think of it as kid Jason being recruited up by joker instead of batman. Explains the weird obsession with money and power and some of the edgey shit
I also love that, despite killing off Captain Boomerang early and eventually killing off Rick Flag by the end, both characters were put under a respectful, honorable light under James Gunn's direction.
After credit has Flag alive in the hospital.
@@kkehoe5 That was Peacemaker in the hospital. They had to keep him alive for his spinoff show
Uh...spoiler?
@@Crazieyboy15, pretty sure this video I commented on has all the spoilers you'll need.
@@PsychoRavager Other than the decoy squad dying, no it doesn't and yours is a heavy spoiler
The way Idris yelped at the rats was hilarious. This movie was a hell of a lot of fun. I didn't mind the development slowdown. Flawed, yeah, but it's not like the torture 2016 was.
I enjoyed this film well enough, I sense that it will become overhyped in peoples descriptions because it wasn't a pile of dog poo like the previous one was, it didn't do that well in the box office though so I hope the studios don't use that as an excuse to go back to the woke nonsense
I enjoyed it. Hardly perfect but a lot of fun.
@@4dstellatedhypercube558 I personally believe the hype as it was so fresh. Nice change
@@4dstellatedhypercube558 I don’t know how people are calling the movie overhyped or overrated literally all over twitter people were saying the movie wasn’t advertised well. Then people actually watched it and love it so now people are calling it overrated 🤣
@Miguel Messina I agree
"Like Rocky but with even more brain damage"
Classic.
Nice seeing you here!
@@emeraldplayer4126 👊👊👊
Another good one is "polcadot man grows on you after a while" XD
Omg
Lol just watched ur video before this
Honestly having seen this, I'd take Idris Elba over Will Smith any day. Absolutely nailed this role! It felt like Idris Elba actually played the character, while Will Smith played... well, Will Smith in a Deadshot costume.
To be fair to Will Smith he suffered from the first movie not being able to decide who was the "main character" as it seemed to shift between him and Harely. Both seemed to want the movie to revolve around them and their back story.
So instead of a fleshed out character, we got two more in depth people that still felt like side characters.
Will Smith always just plays himself
I think Will did a good job as deadshot, Idris also did great. I wanna see Will as deadshot, Idris as Bloodsport and John as Peace maker in one movie.
Yeah, Elba seemed to be having fun with the role. That makes it more fun to watch
Truth.
Funniest moment for me was Weasel ‘dying’ so early in the movie, hilarious
When it falls in the sea with the grace of a concrete chunk? 😂😂
"Nobody checked to see if Weasel could swim?"
He didnt die
@@aronblanche that's why he wrote 'dying'
This movie has the best "your mom" joke in cinematic history that's for sure.
Best 69 joke as well.
true
@Mcheetah the guys mother
@Mcheetah Starro as the mother of Polka dot.
IT'S YOUR MUM
Peacemaker casually stabbing the sleeping dude had me rolling
I forgot about that! 😂
Casual murder is so funny!
"Stab"? It was an axe.
@@robinthrush9672 hack
Gunning down the lady singing to herself while she did the dishes.
I also really liked how the villain wasn’t just a dictatorship. It was a corrupt goverment . Bc as soon as the dictator is killed , some other evil basterd just takes over . Its a nice well thought out twist on the villain i havent seen since robocop . It shows you how in a struggling country there are many people to step into evil things just for money and powwer .
I definitely thought we were going to be preach at about how awesome Communism is. I was pleasantly surprised they didn't.
Then they pretend "free elections" come which is hilarious. Most of the world doesn't want free elections, and the west doesn't really seem to invested in them any more either.
@@FunkyBobFett why would that make any sense?
As someone who does live on a South American country
It's pretty accurate
@@FunkyBobFett why tf would you even think that?
I usually hate when a movie makes a joke or a gag multiple times but I thought the polka dot man seeing his mom gag was actually pretty funny. Somewhat edgy humor in a movie today is a huge win.
It was a brilliant way to explore his character and make him understood to the audience
Only thing that would've made it better was if his mom's name was martha
The mom gag killed me in the finale
I’m so sad he died man he was one of my favorite characters
And when Bloodsport yelled "That's Your Mom!" Is the only time when Yo Mama Joke is totally useful
I think this is a great example of a movie who’s flaws don’t detract from the enjoyment that you get out of watching it, unlike the last Jedi. And in the end that’s really all that matters, being able to just have fun watching a movie is very rare nowadays but I had a good time.
Yup. This instalment of suicide squad was a nice little popcorn flick that was worth watching. A few laughs. Some decent action. No complaints. Would recommend.
"whose flaws" or since it's not a person, "where the flaws". But the flaw doesn't stop me from enjoying your post.
@@karmabad6287 yup exactly
@Impersonal Immigrant because dceu fangays are bitter karma
Can yall get over the last jedi Jesus christ
It wasn't preachy. It wasn't condescending. It wasn't filling in character types for the sake of it. It was good. A fun couple of hours with a no-brains-required label.
C'mon, a walking shark and an army of rats and the best Kaiju in a long time. What more do you need?
"Besf kaiju in a long time"
Godzilla vs Kong: "and I took that personally"
Sadly....enough. Ten years ago...1 1/2 stars
"It wasn't filling in character types for the sake of it." Except Ratcatcher 2.
@@colinmclean2409 No, I think if people had the same sense of humor back then they would have enjoyed it just as much.
The only time I genuinely laughed was when Amanda Waller parodied her 'explaining the villains backstory' scene from the first Suicide Squad. She gave Peacemaker the *exact* same backstory as BloodSport with a completely deadpan, serious delivery. Brilliant
That was gold
That's because you have absolutely no clue what this movie is all about. It's comic book made Tarantino style. A play with conventions and motives. It's made to be taken through special lenses. The professional movie critics, usually a joke, are right this time. It's a comedy gold when you realize that and watch the movie for what it really is.
And the bit with Elba about "unique abilities," his indignation at being so clearly disposable, and the way it set up their rivalry for the rest of the movie. Very well done.
@@pickettscharge5931 huh?
@@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 IKR.
Is it me or does Peacemaker suit perfectly in “The Boys”
Close enough, but I think Jensen Ackles as Soldier Boy is taking that role in The Boys
@@ivanramirez1027 i was just thinking about this
Sadly, The Boys only had one season... .. .
@@2donnyblack2 2 seasons
@@deathstroketheterminator3103 Nope, second season was The Girls... .. . And it was really shit... .. .
Strange world we live in, when saying "This movie wasn't the total pile of steaming shit I thought it was going to be" is considered praise.
Just goes to show how low the bar has sunk. Like imagine if one of these recent years slates of movies came out back in the 80s but back with 80s cg of the time, they would recall it as the worst year for movies ever. The writing of most modern movies are absolute shite
Everybody asks, "Who is Milton?"
But nobody asks, "How is Milton?"
Well, at that point he was already dead
If Drax were here, he'd ask "WHY is Milton?"
@@jasper_k-r4l who?
Well, according to one blonde ditz, Milton was using all the guns from the beginning!
He really was there the entire time. This is a masterclass in fucking with your audience 😂
I really enjoyed The Suicide Squad. Little touches like having different chapters to give it a comic book feel, the R rating, and that first scene…
One of the best opening sequences in a comic book movie
i adore this movie
The first 10 minutes waa absolutely hilarious. I was cracking up seeing weasel struggling to not drown as soon as he falls in 😂😂 it was hilarious seeing everyone else get so violently murdered
@@YTChannel420…and Michael Rooker saving him while everyone else is like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No one checked if the Weasel could swim?
I'm not ashamed to say I loved this movie, Ratcatcher 2 was the best.
i know
Me too
It's really good, the critical drinker rarely thinks superhero movies and shows are good so him saying that it's not boring , means it's really fun and enjoyable to the average audience like you and me
Ratcatcher needs her own movie, she's too likeable
Marvel can learn how to make a good female character from dc
Bland character
This whole movie just sort of gave me a fun DND adventure vibe. From the "party" killing all the rebels on accident because they jumped to conclusions to the big boss and a slight but not groundbreaking twist at the end. Twists that turn characters against each other are always the most interesting. The Mummy (1999) sort of vibe. Fun, funny, and great characters.
It was great to because it subtly suggested to the audience that Waller was in some ways worse than the very villains she was blackmailing into national service
It wasn't better than the Mummy tho, that's a little too far.
"It's not gonna set your world on fire"
Shows clip of a guy getting toasted by a flamethrower😂
Why give them money? They hate us... Can you live without the stupid movie?
Also, right after he said "...before he started shooting" as Bloodsport shoots his megacannon.
Certainly set that guy's world on fire. 😆
@@Azraiel213 "Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man _on_ fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life..." - Jesus Christ
@@forestcityfishing4749 what are you talking about?
I really liked bloodsport instead of race swapping an iconic villain like Deadshot they took a D list villain and made him more prominent on his own merits. Also Idris performance was better because Will Smith’s ego won’t let him commit to being a villain while Idris was able to play a villain that had layers.
+1 on the acting, I'm sure will Smith could do it but I don't see him pulling of that scene in jail call with his daughter the way Idris did.
@@fleeplayTV All of the lines bloodsport had were originally deadshot. You can tell because there's some comedic lines and moments that were clearly written for Will Smith.
I first saw Idris Elba in Luther, and his character had more layers than an onion.
@@danielz-v4083 Watch Ali, he really lets loose in that film.
Stallone is more talented and versatile than he ever gets credit for!
Bird
@@elyero4053 Hand
People always seem to forget he wrote the script for an Oscar winning movie.
That back and forth between bloodsport and his daughter felt so real man, their chemistry really sold it
"FUCK YOU!" - both characters lmfao
They did more father-daughter character development in five minutes than the first suicide squad did in the whole movie
@@spaceCowboy924 amen to that 🤣
@@dakotajensen181 innit🤣🤣
I love how the movie doesn't even try to make you empathize with Bloodsport because his daughter, given that it's clearly stated how of a shit father he is, even the man itself acknowledge he is a terrible influence for her, and by the end he manages to redeem his image in someway.
Not like in the original where you were meant to like the psychopathic hired mercenary because deep within him he's just a father caring for his daughter and more bullshit.
"I cherish peace with all my heart. I don't care how many men, women, and children I need to kill to get it." -Peacemaker
Amen
"Peacemaker?
What a joke."
Bloodsport: No one likes a showoff.
Peacemaker: Unless what your showing off is dope as fuck.
Bloodsport: fuck, that's true.
I was rofl 🤣😂.
Pretty easy keeping a room full of corpses peaceful
Perfect line 🤣
Speaking of comedic timing, I appreciate how the drinker says “it won’t set your world on fire” as not deadshot is lighting someone on fire
The intelligent projector joke that ratcatcher made was so funny it probably flew over everyone Head 😂😂😂
It's funny how a middling effort by a talented writer still turned out a better movie than most of the other DC attempts at a cinematic universe.
I think his heart was in it, actually. It's not perfect but it's not middling either.
It's more like he had this movie as his fun movie.
Aquaman and Wonder woman says you're wrong.
And Joker too.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418Only valid movie you mentioned was Joker
@@Dee_rian Wrong.
The Batman got a perfect 10 rating from IGN alone along with 3 oscar nominations and took the critics choice award.
That's a masterpiece.
Marvel has been trash since Infinity war
"Flawed But Fun" would have been a better title. I couldn't believe I actually had fun with a comic book movie since forever.
Why I liked it more than typical comic book movies:
* U don't know who's good and evil. It's not like Flash or Wonder woman could turn out to be evil in JL.
* U don't know who would die in a Suicide Squad movie. There are actually some stakes.
I do know there’s no way Harley Quinn could die. She’s the face of the franchise
@@XXthekingofyouXX Hopefully thats one expectation they plan on subverting
Captain boomerang shouldn't have die tho...
@@kosherkingofisrael6381 - That'd be awesome if they did just randomly have someone chop her head off while she's fighting. Just imagine how stunned everyone watching would be. Lol.
@@XXthekingofyouXX
Man your talking about harley the master of plot armor if no one writes her well you can see the armor she has under to tanktop
“I’m gonna do my best to pick this film apart whilst avoiding spoilers” 10 seconds later... everyone dies on the beach apart from Rick flag and Harley😂
Lol. He is drunk so...
He often says skip to whatever part in the video and hope for the best lmao, we love him for that.
The trailer shows scenes with them, so they obviously lived. Not really a spoiler unless you haven't seen any trailers.
I mean it is called the SUICIDE squad for a reason, mortality rate is pretty high usually.
I was looking for this😂
The movie was basically just 2 hours of fun. Nothing ground breaking. Just fun.
Yea one of the best DCEU movie
Better than fun
@Impersonal Immigrant I'm pretty sure most people who watched it, viewed it on a streaming service. I honestly think Theaters just aren't as popular as they once were. You can just watch movies within the comfort of your own home and if you're willing to dish out the cash, you can set up your own surround sound system with a 4k projector.
I find it boring.
@Impersonal Immigrant because if you have HBO MAX, which lots of people do, you can watch it at home, in comfort, with no audience. Naturally tons people are going for that over going to the movies.
To me, I honestly had FUN and found it to be a complete BLAST!!! Honestly, I feel like this has got to be one of the best comic book films ever, and none of the fight scenes disappointed. But, as always, great points, The Critical Drinker!
This is what the 2016 one should've been from the start. All the characters were likable, a far better villain and most of all,not having your spotify album as the OST
Listen, this movie had a very forgettable villain as Starro. But yeah, he's more memorable than Enchantress. So that is an improvement indeed.
What was my point again?
2016 ss wasn't a high benchmark to cross lol so stop comparing TSS with 2016 one instaed compare it with GoTG if you will
Agreed. I'm actually looking forward to the next one
@@indranighoshal5232 Starro wins by default for being a giant alien starfish which is more memorable than a tribal goddess with tattoos.
I felt more bad for him than her,where they try too hard to make me care
Haven't seen the movie yet. But credit where credit is due, cheers to James Gunn for embracing the comic book nature of this movie. I know he did the same with Guardians. And I know James Wan tried some of the same with Aquaman. Go big or go home, is all I will say.
The last Suicide Squad was pretentious as hell. Edgy for no reason, no sense of awareness or irony. All under a PG-13 rating. They try to sell their story as "this is the real world, our world, all dark and gritty and there's crime and military and politics" and then oh, a f*cking ancient witch is the big bad. Really?
THIS movie, a witch could pop out from behind any corner and you wouldn't bat an eye. It would fit and make sense.
Again, I haven't seen the movie. And I HATED that first trailer. But I look at how over the top just the design of the guns are even, and it works. You thought Aquaman's Octopus was pushing it? Here's a talking shark with hands and legs.🤪🤪
Weasel drowning immediately before the movie even really begins is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. Such a perfect way to set the tone for the movie.
Deadpool 2 did it better.
After credits scene tho!
@@clarkkent3809 yep, x-force dying was way better.
@@clarkkent3809 no need to compare
@@clarkkent3809 After the second one I knew they were all dead, it wasn't nearly as funny as it thought it was.
This movie is like the weird , fun-loving cousin of the DCEU
He's got some strange hobbies and quirks, but he's the only one having any fun, while everybody else is kind of dead inside (except maybe Shazam who is like the youngest sibling that got caught up in the family drama)
This movie, Aquaman, and Shazam, felt more like the way DC comics feel than any other of their movies.
And by that I mean: bright, fun, campy at times, and entertaining.
yeah its so sad hack snyder has ruined DC from the begining
@Wolf of Light random TSS ? doesnt surprise me cuz snyder cultists are popular about loving garbage movies
The Harley and President part almost ruined the whole movie for me. The movie was doing a fucking GREAT job up until that point. The pacing hits a brick wall. I think if you cut that part out completely and speed up the part where they kidnap Dr. Who, the movie would be fantastic.
As in, never have El Presidente as a character, with the general guy always being the main villain, and cut directly from Harley being captured to her being tortured, fake-passing out, choking out the guard with her legs and escaping in a hail of bullets and bloodspray?
I liked that part. I thought it was funny. Shows that no matter what, you can’t trust Harley.
Yeah, while this was my favorite version of Harley, her mini side plot of romance with the president was awful. It felt so out of place that i almost stopped watching the movie. It felt like someone wrote that plot without reading the other parts of the script.
@@mr.pudding51 the old guy wasn't the president.
@@stevenbobbybills He became the President after Harley killed the young President.
Even if it isn’t perfect, what I love about The Suicide Squad is how the movie handled its characters. Coming into this movie on my first watch, I was a little bit worried if it would basically become “Harley Quinn and Friends”. I was extremely happy that James Gunn allowed each character to have their chance to shine; and because of that, everyone I know who saw it had their own favorite character. Ratcatcher 2, King Shark and Bloodsport are my top 3 favorites, and I hope to see them return in more Suicide Squad movies and their own spin-offs. With that out of the way, I can definitely say that The Suicide Squad is my favorite movie of the year, so far! I hope Warner Bros can let James Gunn make more movies for DC, because there’s so much potential with what he can do next. #RestoreTheGunnVerse
Maybe I'll finally give guardians a watch.
So you liked the fact that all the white guys were killed off and the women saved the day
@@FP194 I thought the rats did, which I thought was ridiculous. I thought of "death by a thousand cuts" but if each cut is only a quarter inch deep from a rat would you die?
Good point though I didn't realize that when I first watched it literally came down to harley and rat girl saving everyone.
@@FP194 Is Bloodspot not a man? Technically I think King Shark is too. There really wasn’t an agenda in this movie. Lets not dig for one.
Not all the characters, i would have love to see more of the first team, not just to kill them all in maybe less than 10 minutes. They didnt shine, my favourite character die in a second, fuck i love cap boomerang, he deserv better
Not a single "fart in a mud reference", nowhere to be seen throwing up reference and a zero "are you serious" j. jonah jameson reference. So... I consider that a win for a movie review.
Yooooooo.. I didn’t even notice that😂😭 beat comment!!
Or even Leelo from Fifth Element doing slow motion laugh or Sam Neill's screaming at Event Horizon. That means it's a good review.
@@margarethmichelina5146 That's Sam Neil from In the "Mouth of Madness", if you're talking about when he's on the train.
@@txbuzzkill6276 I think it's actually from the evil spaceship movie. Event Horizon I think it's called.
@@ThatSockmonkey Sometimes Drinker used both scenes and once there was compilation from many different Sam Neil movies.
I cant believe I’m saying this, but this film “subverted my expectations” quite pleasantly.
Take notes, our simple minded, round-headed friend Rian
well to be fair. he seems to have taken notes and the result was knives out
Have you watched Knives Out?
@@finleymorris04 No because Rian Johnson made it and I will never give a cent to anything that douchbag worked on.
@@finleymorris04 No i didnt. I Just mentioned it randomly
@@nathank2289 knives out is good. He also made Brick that was brilliant as well. Dude just wasn’t cut out for Star Wars. Relax.
I think Gunn did an amazing job with this one. The visuals, soundtrack and the characters were off the charts, and although some of the writing wasn't always spot on, I've got to say it has been a while since I have enjoyed a movie as I've enjoyed this one.
At this point Elba is more entertaining than Will Smith. Smith at his height was a massive screen draw, but over the years lost his funny bone, takes himself way to seriously, and doesn't seem remotely like the same person.
Scientology does that to actors IMO
And then there is Jaden... 🤮
I don't feel that way. To each their own I guess.
He's not a trained actor that I can tell. He does his Will Smith schtick, and sometimes it fits the movie and is entertaining, and other times it doesn't. Elba had the humility to actually learn how to act I think.
Truf
I loved Rick Flag in this movie. He was an effective foil to Peacemaker's psycho patriotism. Especially at the end, he shows that while he is fighting for his country, he won't follow them blindly. An infinitely more rewarding character arc than "oh no my girlfriend is a witch, i am sad".
Peacemaker was right.
Rick Flag had some of the best lines. "Peacemaker. What a joke." Iconic shit right there
@@fortheloveofking @LudoPhobi4 has a good point about Flag's role as a 'patriotic foil' in the film but yeah... I too agreed with Peacemaker's reasoning at the end of the film.
@@sakulaeyr9819 Which when you throw in Bloodsport's pragmatism about the whole thing just really does a great job of exploring the 3 different belief systems at the fundamental core of each character
@@fortheloveofking People like you are the reason SWJs exist and the reason the government has so much power in the first place.
“I Pictured them as My Mother in my Head & I Killed Them”
Best Delivered Line in the Movie.
That's saying something with deliveries like John Cena's "I cherish freedom with all my heart" bit
The giant starfish was more adorable than it had any right to be. 🥺
It did didn't it? I know it's a bad idea but a part of me wanted it as a pet
i was happy floating in space.....
While I like Will Smith a lot, he wasn't good in the first suicide squad. Idris Elba does much more with a similar character.
Idris is one of those actors who got big a bit too late. He's 48 now, and starting to look older. He's going to age out of roles he could have nailed 10 years ago. Sucks.
Then again, Keanu.
He’s got 10 more years easy. The roles change but nowadays Hollywood male prime can range between 24-65
Idris Elba has had star power since the 2000s brah lmao what do you mean
Will Smith whenever he's casted as a serious badass doesn't work for the most part.
Elba should've been DeadShot from the start.
About his age that's not a problem,Samuel L Jackson in Pulp Fiction was around Elba's age now
Will Smith always plays Will Smith. It was like Eddie Murphy playing Rudy Ray Moore. All I kept seeing was Eddie Murphy in bad makeup and hair. Idris Elba played an actual character.
I guess you've never watched Taken. Or Nobody. Or John Wick.
I liked how John Cena actually *acted* in this movie. This is easily his best role.
You can see his remorse after the Flagg scene and Ratcatcher , I was surprise for the very first time too
I was hoping knowing his lackluster performance in Fast 9 was a result of him putting all that effort into the guy wearing a metal soup bowl on his head. Happy to have seen that was indeed the case, and deserved his A-Game way more than the former.
He's finally playing a character who is not himself but sadly he becomes China's prisoner
Personally I think his best was "Tour de Pharmacy". Serious roles aren't his best.
@@motherplayer I don’t think the character in Fast 9 was able to be good in the first place
I’d say it’s a HUGE improvement over the original
Not saying much
Again, not a high bar.
They made a bad movie that's somewhat fun. Okay, now make a good movie that's fun as well. And maybe then, you can start learning to do great movies that have awesome stories. And if you really put your mind to it DC, you can make excellent movies with incredible stories.
Baby steps... is what I would say if this wasn't backed by fucking Warner Bros. It's sad to think that this constitutes as an above-average job for a million-dollar company.
@@wojak-sensei6424 what about Joker?
You have never seen the original...
The movie was ruined by studio meddling. If only we could see the original cut.
Original wasn't a high benchmark to cross tho
I don’t always agree with the drinker, but this assessment is 100% spot on.
I loved the characters here. Ratcatcher was incredibely lovable and and cried "NO" out loud when Polkadot man got killed, wich is something I very rarely do
SAME!!! I rolled my eyes when I heard he was going to be in it because... well... Polka Dot Man. They made him so cool and sympathetic and INTERESTING in the movie that when he went down I literally yelled at my screen!
I really wished that "dimensional disease" thing came into play against Starro.
(Harley should have been removed from the film altogether to allow more time with King Shark and PDM!)
I liked Polkadot Man, but the way they framed the shot, you could see they were going kill him as a joke.
His death was so predictable.
“I’m a superhero”
That line is a red flag since the trailer comes out
That "Dope as fuck" line took me by such surprise that I literally had to stop the movie to catch my breath from laughing.
The best part is Idris's reaction "Fuck. Its true."
@impishDCfan85 85 yeah it wasn't that great but Bloodsport's response compensated for it
It's sad that a movie simply being entertaining and not a vehicle for modern, angry and divisive political ideologies is such a rarity. I'll take it though. With both hands.
I dunno. There's a strain of "America Bad" in this movie.
Peacemaker and rick flag's justice vs peace is pretty cool tho
^^^^^^
This
@@archstanton9073 nah m8
Movies have always been about political theatre… you’ve just recently pulled your head out of your ass and noticed. Just slide it back in and you’ll be happier.
"Did anyone check on whether Weasel could swim?" had me laughing out loud 😂
In my humble opinion, this movie was worth the price of admission simply to hear Sylvester Stallone say, "Nom-noms?"
"Whatever your feelings for John Cena touching his toes for China..."
Savage 🤣
Yeah, John Cena has been losing a lot of people’s respect recently. Funny how he’s playing a character named Peacemaker. More like Peacefaker.
Motto should be: I cherish peace with all my heart. I don’t care how fake I must be to get it.”
John Xina
@therock What did he do?
@therock he did not have to do it, he chose to in order to advance his career and make more money...much more importantly, you have to think of the serious implications of the actual geopolitical claim being made
@therock The bigger issue at play is China controlling peoples freedom of speech beyond their borders they shouldn’t be able to control what an American can can’t say as it is a dangerous precedent one that has seeped in many other businesses because of that China money
“But Drinker, you loquacious lothario,” you hear me ask, “How can I enjoy a modern superhero movie without a giant steaming pile of identity politics?”
By making a supervilain movie instead?
thanfully they managed to tone it down quite a lot in this movie. There is no fucking way it's a coincidence that the main team is composed of minorities and they kill of all the white males, but at least there were no "men suck" jokes.
Theres still identity politics in it...its just very subtle
@@douglashenschel Ah, I haven’t seen it yet, planning to check it out this weekend.
@@douglashenschel The made up South American country is full of white males huh? I think you're really projecting here buddy.
I think the best writing in this movie was during the fight between Flag and Cena, with each representing a different side of patriotism. Flag as the well meaning soldier trying to protect his country, and Cena as the mindless drone that does whatever the government tells him, no matter how immoral.
That was some genuinely good writing and it made me really relate to Flag, and mourn his death.
You forgot to mention the real MVP of the movie, Milton. 😂
Who knew Bloodsport had such an unusual name
Who's Milton?
fun fact. Milton is born and raised here in my town and now the dude is a freaking legend around here. it was all over the news that a local got a role in a big movie production lol
Elba, Cena and Stallone killed it imo, Stallone and Cena were freaking hilarious, specially the Elba v Cena banter.
"get ashore, unmolested" being from a seaside town this has brought back memories i never knew
Seamen and semen?
I love the idea of this King Shark meeting Batman (Batfleck or Battison), and Batman slowly realising that while KS is dangerous, he's also remarkably easy to handle if you make friends with him.
***SPOILER WARNING***
I almost cracked a rib from laughing when we see Polkadot Man’s mom as a giant kaiju destroying the town! 😂🤣😂 Oh my god that was AMAZING!
His moms actor must’ve had a blast doing the film
With you on that. Brilliant scene.
Yes
If he wasn’t distracted he probably could have soloed the thing if his powers are infinite
" ITS YOUR MOM!! " had me dead 😂
Polka: "She's everywhere..." 😢
That had us cracking up 🤣🤣🤣
That mother vision scenes were a good chuckle in this mediocre movie.
Oh and Pete Davidson headshot was funny!
Fun fact:
David Dalmastian, the guy who plays Polka Dot Man is the guy who played one of Joker's henchmen in The Dark Knight Rises. Thomas Schiff. His name tag says "Officer Dawes". When Gordon gets shot. Indicating Rachel is the Joker's next target.
@@riveraharper8166 mediocre ? u got a garbage taste buddy
This movie feels like a true homage to 80's action movies, and I LOVE THAT SHITE!!
This shit feels like it's directed by Tarantino, and I'm definitely not complaining! R-rated Gunn = Tarantino LMAO
@@indranighoshal5232 Tarantino gore is on a level of its own. While this was gorey the only 2 parts that stand out to me is the stabbing of the heart and shark boy tearing the dude in half.
@@johnv6806 Tarantinos gore is more realistic exept kill bills
@@friedrice7876 from kill bill on it was extreme and rather unrealistic (to my knowledge) but vastly entertaining.
@@friedrice7876 that kill Bill scene you may leave with your lives but leave your limbs they belong to me now! Is some awesome shit you won't see outside of Tarantino
I found myself genuinely enjoying the movie every moment Margot Robbie's Harley wasn't on screen.
That's what I thought as well..I mean she's not bad but the movie is so much better in moments it's not catered to her
I don't mind her as a character but her deliveries are super cringey.
@@Thesavagesouls that's the problem that Harley actors will always run into when they try to recreate Arleen Sorkins voice and mannerism.. which is why I don't mind Kaley Cuocos portrayal.
i actually like the scene were she gets free
@@Justaguythatcameby that is a good scene. I really enjoyed that one..I think she would do her self a favor if she ditched the accent and went with anything more organic to his she actually sounds.
While I think the scene with Harley and the Dictator was a bit too long, I think it did a lot for her character progression, and was at least relevant to the story by having her shoot the main Dictator.
I was feeling it go too long too, but the end of it paid it off big time. It was a grade-A death scene.
What was with the birds getting flamed after that? I felt it was going on for too long too but overall didn't mind it... until it led to the birds. Was it to demonize that colonel dude or whatever? Felt unnecessary.
@@fortheloveofking it wasn't funny or interesting though
True it did wonders for Harley's character, but I wonder what the overall effect was with the dictator's death. Sure there was a "power grab" but I'm sure the old dictator would've used his army the same way as the new dictator if he learned the SS were destroying Starro. The dictators are functionally the same in their actions in this movie.
They should have killed Harley Quinn in the beginning of the movie!
Rat-Catcher II, Polk Dot Man and King Shark really grew on me and I like them. I am sick of Harley Quinn, years of comic fandom have turned her from a funny sidekick from BTAS to this super powered death machine, except she has no powers, no gear, no training, she just "Crazy", that is not a power.
Well, in this movie she's obviously trained in some kind martial arts.
Yeah I'm over Harley in general and Margot Robbies version specifically
I had never heard of them, but ended up truly caring. Great movie, it's only failt for me was lacking a bit of "show, don't tell" (the flashback in the bus was great, but why tell me a guy shot Superman without showing it?!)
As soon as her escape scene started, I thought, "Oh Christ, they're gonna have this 120lb woman kill dozens of trained soldiers single handedly, aren't they?" And sure enough.... oh, except they added some special effects to distract from the choreography.
In a movie with a talking humanoid shark and a Godzilla-sized starfish, watching Margot Robbie (yet again) outfight/kill groups of grown men was what dented my suspension of disbelief.
When she was chained up and lifted herself and a soldier 1.5 times get size from the ground, I was willing to buy into some level of super-strength, and with that the following fights (ignoring that no soldier catches her with a bullet) were enjoyable
Give King Shark his own movie, preferably without tornadoes and 5 sequels.
Or a Giant Octopus, a Crocosaurus, a Mecha Shark or Kollossus.
“Kings shark’s like Rocky but with more brain damage” made me spit my toilet duck all over my cocaine
Keep up the good work drinker
I laughed out loud, at the part where they killed those resistance people who were suppose to help them 😂😂😂 it was so unexpected lmao
YES! That was such a twist! And funny! And it's even telegraphed a little at the beginning with the pleasant exchange between the two guards (one goes to get the other coffee and the first guy says "thanks" or something). But it's still completely unexpected. The action takes you right out of it. Such a great way for the movie to set tone.
It was obvious they weren't enemies cause they never fought back.
This movie was such a pleasant surprise James Gun just nailed it, Ratcatcher and King Shark were my favorite but goddamn Idris Elba makes any movie 1000x better!
I wouldn't go that far, but I also keep asking myself why the fucker isn't in more movies, especially action ones. He's just perfect as a badass. Pacific Rim, Dark Tower, and so on. Hate on the movies all you like, but the dude looks great as the badass character.
Yea this movie is better than the first one tbh
@@leroyvermilion7708 what ? first one is garbage this movie is better than every DCEU
@@LyaksandraB I would go that far again lol the man is such a legend.
@@herloss448 can you not read? Lmao he said "yea this movie is better than the first one tbh"
"Rocky with more brain damage" had me rolling 😂
I was laughing but I wasn't rolling
Weasel was one of my standout characters. I was laughing the whole time.
This film definitely does NOT deserve to be labeled a “flop” it was Miles above the original and I’ve already seen it Twice in theaters when I could Barely power through the previous once
"Flop" refers to how it performs in terms of viewership and net income, not quality. Something can be much better than something else and still completely flop where the other succeeded. The first Suicide Squad made a lot of money despite being utter garbage. So far this one looks like it'll struggle to make back its budget, which would make it a flop. Maybe positive reviews like this will help it dig itself out of a hole, and of course there will be endless excuses about HBO Max streaming to muddy the waters in terms of how well the film actually did, but at the moment it's looking extremely floppy.
This movie needed Kite Man to really bring it all together
A brief Batman cameo would've been great.I still had fun.
@@rogersmartinjr.8588 Fuck Batman, we want Kite Man
HELL YEAH
Batman tends to F right back.Just saying.🦇
God that would have been amazing
When the purple haired landwhales aren’t fans of this film, I knew It would be fun to watch
It's a barometer for quality I've noticed. Basically if it isn't spreading "the message" they won't like it.
@Jello Imagine only getting validation from films made for profit. I bet she unironically calls herself a socialist too.
But hey, they even got to be the representation they wanted as that guy's mother! :D
Fun?
@@mrknarf4438 oof 😭
The ending battle scene with Rat-catcher was so beautiful. The music, taika waititi's one liner and the imagery all lined up so well. Who knew suicide squad would bring all the feels.
"I'm gonna keep it light on spoilers." Reveals the very first scene's big twist. Damn you, Drinker!
;-)
And proceeded to show extremely spoiler-y clips throughout 😂
Yeah, Bloodsport was a HELL of a lot more likeable than Deadshot.
To be fair to Will Smith, he was actually supposed to star in this movie as Deadshot, but his filming schedules clashed, so they brought in Idris Elba instead.
Morgan Freeman would've been better.
Elba was better anyway.
That's like me ordering a burger and getting prime rib instead. Idris Elba can outact Smith in his sleep.
And Idris Elba as Bloodsport nailed it
I thought Will just wasn’t interested in respiring the role (or wasn’t offered a contract to respire it). I know Jai Courtney didn’t really have interest to respire the role so that’s why he was killed off quickly
I thoroughly enjoyed it. It does bog down with the silly Harley subplot. I was surprised by some of the splatter! John Cena was fantastic.
*SPOILER*
It pleased me that Polka Dot Man died happy, he was so depressed until he unleashed his power on giant mother.
my fav part was how james was able to make us feel bad for these "criminals"
there's a couple of feel good moments throughout even one for the star fish boss
Kinda want to know what Javelin was in for. Seemed like a decent guy.
Ratcatcher2 felt a bit cheap on how she came into the squad - why was she in jail? For shoplifting?
People really need to talk only of own n not of others.
@@TheBrotherdarkness9 yeah she was in for a robbery but with rats .shes unique thats why they have her in this prison
For Ratcatcher 2 especially, you understood that the only thing she knew was using rats to get by, so it would make sense that she would use that technology to get things she needed, it would also make sense that her abilities and tech would get her sent to the same prison everyone else with abilities/tech go to. So it made sense that she was compassionate and also a little innocent to some degree.
The fun was so much fun in this movie, I didn't care at all about the flaws
Great comment.
same .i adore this movie
Any movie that can make me care about the death of an obscure and ludicrous d-list Batman villain deserves praise.
In the next Suicide Squad, expect Condiment King!
Whos death did you care about? The only one with some development and enough screening time to care, was polka dot man, and that character was deranged with suicidal thoughts. What a great guy to root for! NOT! The only death I felt a little inside was Rick Flags, but even that was fuelled by dissapointment, not sadness.
@@ShotgunShogun49 Yes, "I'm a superhero!" Polka-Dot Man!
@@awandererfromys1680 Seen it a million times, where a character finally happy with himself just to die immediately after.
@@ShotgunShogun49 Seen Rick Flag's a million times before too. The death of respected leader/mentor whose noble principles rub off on the rest of the team. Well, a bit anyway.
Flag's death was unexpected. Like you think he's gonna survive but nope, that thing is going straight into his heart. Gunn makes absolutely sure that we understand that _he is dead_ . Plot armor? Shit just got real. Yea, his death hits hard. That's the point.
These tropes and the entire Hero's Journey are as old as storytelling itself. The point is that no matter how silly the characters or setting, if you do them right they work and we lose ourself in the story.
Gunn understands this more than most directors.
I was there when Mad love hit the shelves so I feel qualified to say that this is the closest anyone has gotten to the Harley I know and love. It’s unimaginably uncomfortable for me to see her so overly sexualised.
The midmovie mini-romance film was a bit unexpected
@@james3876 Completely unseeded, but I did enjoy it and saw the result coming a mile away.
This movie actually made me care about its characters. The Peacemaker and Rick Flag fight kept me on edge because I knew that either of them could die and I wanted both to live.
Yeah, I was sad at that fight, I want both of them to survive.
Were you sad that flag was the one to die ?
@@Hasbulla761 It made complete sense that he was the one to kick the bucket, fight did a great job of showing peacemaker was just a little bit better. If flag had survived it would have felt like he had protagonist armor after peacemaker's buildup throughout the film
@@Hasbulla761 I'm sad because he was so much better in this movie and now I want to see more of him
Felt bad for Rick Flag. An honorable guy trying to do the right thing but he forgot that he’s just as expendable as the crazies on his team.
“John Cena touching his toes for China” 😂😂😂
The scene when rhe shark tries to eat ratcatcher while shes asleep, and then she says he wouldnt do something like that, he has very kind eyes XD, it made me laugh a lot
Really enjoyed this film. Large portions of Harley Quinn scenes could be removed though as they play no significance to the plot. Idris smashed his role and I'd love to see more of him as this character
I had extremely low expectations for this movie and almost didn't watch it. I was basically peer preassured into it by my friends who wanted to watch it. Im so glad i watched it. I had a blast the characters grew on me massively especially harley who i couldn't stand in suicide squad
Me too I watched it at a friend’s birthday party I hadn’t watched the first one and figured this one would be as bad due to what I had heard about the first one, watched it, was pleasantly surprised and I would even watch it again
The acrobatics/gymnastics part during the prison escape did a great job of highlighting her archtype in a superhero type way
That's almost my experience to a "T." Given how god awful the first one was, plus how bad the trailer for this one was (they only showed the cheesy jokes and they were out of context), I expected nothing from this movie. But damn was it SOOOO fun and entertaining!
FR they made Harley so lovable here, and they made her badass without it feeling forced.
honestly, i never thought a cynical alcoholic with a nack for analysis would be my go-to channel for movie reviews a couple of years ago ... but man, you are honest, kinda funny in a "not now, grandpa"-way and call out the same bullshit i've grown to hate. cheers to you mate, hope your liver keeps working a little while longer
I went in expecting a disappointing mess and found myself more than once laughing out loud and really enjoying the film and the fact it wasn't packed to the gills with pandering ti the SJW crowd was a breath if fresh air
This point was driven home to me when I saw Twitter's headline today that "Robin is exploring his sexuality" in a new DC title...thank you James!
Really depends on the director and what the executives ask of him/her.
James Gunn usually gets a lot of freedom and he's good, so he usually makes good films...
I'm always worried when they hire nobody's or activists...
See Rian Johnson
@@theblackflame4002 Apparently, Tim Drake is Bi-Sexual now
@@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564 i really don’t think Rian was given all the freedom to do TLJ the way he wanted. if that were the case, we’d probably have the original Solo cut.
@@roman.nose.enjoyer No, Rian Johnson was in line with Kennedy so he was given free reign, whereas the Solo team gave Kennedy headaches by being both unprofessional and very different from what Kennedy wanted.