Excellent review. There are loads of videos of people giving reviews of these where it is evident that they don't actually know how to use the stove properly. Ps I have the lixada version of one of these myself and what you demonstrate is spot on. It is great to someone who actually knows what he is talking about 👍
Thank you for your kind words. My knowledge of how to use these stoves probably comes from trying different things and figuring what works best. Thanks for commenting
A great Stove marvellously demonstrated. Top burn down burn is the way to go. I love mine. I use 2 x aluminium foil plates that the stove sits inside when alight to catch the ash. The foil plates weigh nothing and the pot that the stove nests inside sits inside the plates also when packed away. Thank you for sharing. Happy wandering. Paul :)
Hi Mark and thanks for the excellent video with explanations. I recently picked up the Tomshoo version of this stove and really impressed. For fuel, I just like to pick up twigs etc from the floor, but here in the UK it is usually damp. So, first I load the chamber with a hand full of dryish leaves and really small twigs, then cheat by adding a dollop of Fire Dragon gel fuel to the small dish that came with my set up. Any small tin should do here. First I light this, then place the stove over it. giving an intense start to the wood. Next, when this catches, put the top ring and pot stand into place, then just add twigs and bigger diameter pieces. It does not take long for the gasification to start. For cooking or frying, let the fire die away to coals, then add small twigs, which does give some control over temperature. I like the MSR pot idea there. but I use a Trangia 27 pot and fry pan into which the stove fits. This gives me the ability to cook sausages, which I really enjoy. . Should the weather turn really wet, the fire chamber can be inverted and the small dish used with the Fire Dragon fuel to get a hot drink or cook on. However, I find that there is a something about cooking with a wood fire that other fuel types do not give you. During the wetter months, the Swedish Military Ranger stove comes into its own, the stove that the Trangia cookset was developed from apparently. Thanks for the really good informative videos Mark and hike safe.
I must admit that when I ordered my $18.00 gasifier stove I was not expecting much from it and was pleasantly surprised by its efficiency. I own the original solo stove and to be honest I can't justify the cost difference, the knock off works every bit as good. Thanks for sharing
Thanks Wayne. I don't have a Solo but would love to own a BushBuddy at 6oz weight... but I can't justify the cost. Would have to buy a pot that it fits in as well:)
+Mark Young (Shunpyke) I agree, when I bought the solo stove I bought the 900ml nesting pot with it. They didn't have the less expensive options back then as they do now.
Unfortunately Fritz stopped making the BB. He could not make them competitively with the Chinese imports or the Chinese made Solo stoves. It was just him making them all by himself in the Yukon. (opps my bad, he also had another guy making them across the border in Alaska) I have the BB .006" version and I love it like a charm. Unlike the Chinese knock off of the Starfire version, the BB doesn't scorch the earth under it. In fact I can pick up the BB with bare fingers at the bottom and hold it in the palm of my hand while it is burning. The BB is a little smaller (4.25" dia) and the chamber is not as tall so it can only hold half the fuel of the Starfire and its clones. But it is 1/2 the weight and more compact.
As usual, an informative and well thought out discussion in this video. I especially like that you showed how that stove nests so tidily into that MSR pot, making it very compact, especially on day trips or overnighters where a more elaborate cooking set (multiple pots, pans, etc) isn't necessary. I always appreciate knowing which pieces of gear work well together as you demonstrated here. And since you asked us about what stick stoves we favour, my own favourite is the tiny Firebox Nano Gen2. There are multiple ways of feeding it and using it, including with the Trangia burner. It's lightness and compact nature (it folds flat) means it can be made to nest in nearly any cook kit. It's unfortunately quite expensive. Cheers, - Martin
Thanks Martin. I recall you demonstrating the Vital Stove a few years ago. I thought it was quite a cool little stove. Have you used the Firebox Nano in wet or cold conditions yet? I have a knock-off Emberlit Fire Ant that is hard to keep lit if the materials are not perfectly dry
The Vital Stove is definitely the most versatile, efficient, and easy to use twig stove I've ever used, but because it's a battery-powered fan stove , I was leaving it out of consideration when considering what my fave twig stove would be. The Firebox Nano has worked well for me in all conditions in which I've tried it, including autumnal wet and cold, but I've not tried it in winter yet. You raise a good point about how difficult it can be to keep a twig stove lit, especially the small twig stoves. The burn chamber of the Firebox Nano is so small that it's important that one feed it frequently, which can be rather tedious and fiddly if one has to feed twigs in through the top under one's cooking pot. But the designer came up with a clever solution: two fuel feeding holes in the lower part of two adjacent walls of the burn chamber. These holes allow one to feed long twigs or dry splits of wood horizontally into the burn chamber, leaving most of the twigs outside the stove, with only about 3 inches of fuel inside the burn chamber. As the twigs or splits burn up into coals, one can gradually feed the unburned portions of the twigs/splits into the chamber, inch by inch. This is much less fiddly and tiresome. It also makes it possible to cook with a wider pan or pot on the stove, which would otherwise be in the way if one were trying to feed the fuel in fro the top. Thus far, it's worked well for me in damp, wet conditions, but I have not yet tried it outside in winter, though I frankly have no intention of using it here with our snowy, windy winters. When winter camping, I tend to make a larger warming fire to cook on, or else I cook inside my igloo with my Trangia stove out of the cold and wind. Cheers, - Martin
Thanks again Martin. I will have to reconsider the Nano. I would very much like to have a small lightweight stove for those days when I try to go minimal
Of all the stoves and kit you've reviewed and showcased this stove teamed up with your MSR pot and alcohol stove is the best for the money spent. Glad I have this setup as it's fine with wood and the wood pellets. This set and the Trangia 25 and 27 are my favorite stoves but the Lixada is an good deal more affordable. My only gripe or complaint with the Lixada stove is I can't moderate the heat with pellets or wood. It's an intense all out heat.
I Got also a wood gas stove tomshoo with wide opening to feed it with a cross on top to fit smaller Pots. To the setup i have nature hike alcohol stove. It all fits in my Rockland Pots 😊👍, will make a video od it. Subscribed, liked 😊 and took that path less travelled. Cheers Mark from Poland
These stoves are the ultimate carry and cook pieces of kit. A literal 2ft long 1/2 inch around twig could boil water to save your life or cook a small meal.
Your a legend this video was extremely useful regarding the msr stowaway 775ml pot And he lixada wood stove i'v just purchased them aswell now as opose to the solo stove and hualite cookwear which would have cost 5 times more!!
Thanks for this informative video. I just bought this stove on Amazon today, I was able to get great deal for just under $13 U S. I have been wanting a wood gasifier. You came up with some great combinations for this stove with the MSR pot and the Trangia. Thanks again I enjoy your channel.
Great video Mark. I have the other style, one with the little pull out pot supports so mine can’t do the trangia trick. These are good stoves providing you use small twigs so as the embers do not clog the air holes in the ash tray. ATB Jason.
Glad you liked the video. I agree, there is a bit of a trick to getting the most from these stove but when they are set up right, they work great. Thanks for commenting
Your video caught my attention cause I just picked one of these stoves up used for only $5. I didn't know anything about this particular brand prior to purchasing but i figured for the price, I didn't have much to lose. I tried it out in the back yard with some well seasoned cedar and my 14cm zebra pot. I was very impressed. The gasification happens very quickly and the fire was virtually smokeless just as yours was. I had a litter boiled up in no time. I also have the seagul pot and was pleased with how neatly everything nests (btw, it also fits quite nicely in the zebra pot which is more or less the sane diameter as the 775 seagul). Personally, I favour my homemade pop can alcohol stove over the Trangia. I found that if you turn the burn chamber upside down in the stove it works very nicely as a pot stand/wind screen for the alcohol stove. It leaves a bit more space between the alcohol stove and the pot than is ideal but I plan to remedy this by building a taller pop can stove, though my boil time for 2 cups only increased by about 30sec.
Great idea regarding the pop can stove. I have made a number of these and have had great success with them. My favourite stove is the "fancy feast" style and I have made a working simmer ring for it as well. Thanks for watching
Great video demonstration! This is what I like and appreciate best; honest demonstrations, without the product push or dancing girls. I've had a number of gasifier type stoves, I liked them alot, one of the best I had was the larger solo stove with the matching pot...close to two liter. I found the larger the stove the better they worked overall, but they are fun and effective across the board. I tried the same stove recently, belonged to a friend who also had it in the pot, It worked quite well, and with a trangia as well...made mashed potatoes with chicken and gravy. :0) I found these stoves worked very well with a set-up similar to the canadian candle/Swedish fire torch... but it needs to be a very dry piece of wood, split into wedges, and lit from top down. Once the bigger pieces get going it's a very steady and long lasting burn, and usually enough to cook a meal and get a coffee before you have to start adding fuel. In any case, great vid. I think you should leave the series open ended personally. :0) So many stoves, so precious little time...
Thanks Randal. I am finding the same thing with wood stove. Larger stoves don't seem to be bothered as much by wood that is not perfectly dry. I agree, stove can be addictive....
Mark. Finally thought I'd try a purchased twig stove and this one was found on local kijiji. Had a pot that it nests in perfectly also. Very impressed indeed, especially with the quality of construction. Very solid. Video up soon. Jeff
Very informative. Straight forward and to the point. I like that. I recently bought the MSR 475 Stowaway pot. I picked that one because it seemed the right size/weight for one person. I've been looking at the Lixada twig stove but just haven't pulled the trigger yet. I've been planning on just using a small trench fire because of weight and cost. Your video has me leaning back toward the Lixada though. Decisions decisions. They're fun to ponder.
I've considered the MSR 475ml pot as well. Might buy it yet. You won't be disappointed in the wood gas stove but for me, it makes the most sense packing it inside my MSR 775ml pot. Thanks for watching
That looks like a handy efficient stove. That is awesome that it fits inside the pot. That is my complaint of those round type stoves is that they often take up quite a bit of room in the pack. Looks like you solved that problem with your setup.
I agree Loni. If I had not discovered that the stove would fit in the MSR pot I may not have bought it. I am glad it did. It's quite a good stove to use. Thanks again
Far North Bushcraft And Survival Lonnie I have a Tom shoo gasafire Thsts just like Johns heart I keep it In my zebra 14.m m pot and I REALY enjoy watching your videos Thanks and have a great dsy
Thanks for this review on this Mark. The fact it fits the MSR seagul is a huge selling point. It should also fit the Solo 1800 pot and that's a huge bonus as well. I picked up the exact stove but it's not Lixada name but same exact design. I've ran it with wood and here we only have softwood so she's a needy hungry stove but it's hot. I've been also using the Trangia as you suggested and it's perfect. This is a good unit 👌
Good review, thanks for the info. I just ordered one of these for $18 CAD on eBay. I'm planning a thru hike this spring (Rideau Trail) and wanted to utilize forest fuel. I think this stove will do the trick. I usually cook over fire but after a 25-30km day gathering some twigs is more appealing than building a cookie fire.
Thanks for the kind comments. I was playing with my stove again today. It works great and packs to well when combined with the MSR Seagull Stow-a-way 775ml pot. Puts our a lot of heat but goes through fuel pretty fast
Hi Mark, well you almost sold me that combo idea😉 I'm looking to get a new cooking pot and I'm undecided between the MSR and the Zebra 🤔 I usually use my DIY stoves ( Ikea,small emberlit version Android differents woodgas ones) but this idea of nesting the Lixada woodgas one into the MSR pot is absolutelly perfect to me for less than 50$ you have the perfect combo . Thanks for sharing this with great details and infos. Your Channel is now a must to watch for me you bring very valuables trusty and honest opinions along with a philosophy that I share👌 Keep on Your great work brother 👊🙌✌️ Ciao from Québec ⚜
Mark, Hi from Scotland. I use this stove but use the 14cm Zebra can. Looking at the MSR it seams more compact so will switch to that after watching. Great videos and informative so keep them coming. C
Hello Clive. The MSR is more compact but the Zebra will hold more water. I would prefer carrying the Zebra for melting snow in during the winter. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for commenting
I was looking for a way to grill on the little portable wood burning stove and your video answer my question. For other cooking stuff in water boiling water whatever I will use the pellets but when I want to girl something piece of steak or hamburger hot dog or something I'll use the charcoal briquettes. Thank you very helpful video
I'm having trouble getting you a few photos of the"grille bowl" I made for my wood gasification stoves. Just a basic stainless steel bowl with a weber grill insert placed inside of it. Bought a 14" SS bowl with a 12.5" weber insert so it sits about 1-2 inches below the upper lip of the bowl. I then ran on four corners self tapping screws of about 1.5" in lengrh through at a slight up angle for a place to let the grill insert rest. It really works amazing and you cam even store your stove and lighting supplies inside the grille bowl for camping. Wish I could send you those pictures! Wood has stoves are one of my favorite pieces of kit.
So, the bowl rests on top of the stove and transfers heat through to the grill? If I have it right I will see if I can reproduce your setup. I will send pictures first
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yes, you can do it one of two ways really. Couldake the whole big enough to slide over the top of the pot stands then fold them to the open position after it's in place, or else make a smaller hole or holes then place it like you would a pan or pot on the top as normal.
Mark-My Tomshoo is similar stove like yours but it is an upgrade version with grill, better pot suport and an ash plate that is larger then alcohol tray that i had in the past.
A great video presentation. I have the same pot and a Lixada with the three flip out stand and the stove was too high so will review how I store the stove. I have just two videos uploaded and I have longer than five minutes recorded but not edited yet on my stoves, including IKEA stoves.
I have the same set up with the msr pot but if in damp conditions I use cat litter wood pellets which are light and easy to carry and burn very well and hot then you can start adding twigs and any dead standing you find works a treat
I actually just bought some hardwood pellets to try in the stove. Check out my video where I compare the Lixada against the Solo Titan. Thanks for commenting
Carry a pair of garden hand shears to cut branches. Processing is fast and accurate. Cut lengths just short of the rim. Use twigs to start on top and sticks about an inch thick (thumb size) in the chamber and after burn starts. A flashing wind screen around the pot will decrease boil time.
I have a clone of this stove I've used a few times. Works great, but one downside is you need to feed it almost constantly. You can't just load it up and expect it to burn for more than 10 to 30 minutes (depending on wood), where bigger fires with bigger fuel might stay lit more than an hour without feeding.
I agree with your experience. I find that true of most stick stoves regardless of design. I have been able to create a fairly long burn by stacking short sticks vertically in the burn chamber until it is almost full. I then start a top down burn. This takes longer to get going but does last a little longer. For me, the benefit of a stick stove is being able to make a small controllable fire that uses very little fuel and leaves no trace afterwards. The downside is weight of the stove and having to tend them constantly. Thanks for commenting
Mark Young Yes, definite advantages and disadvantages. The stove is good for quick cooking and go or go to sleep, and doesn't require a lot of hauling of water or digging of sand to put it out. It burns out and cools down quickly if not fed. It isn't great for sitting around and warming up by for a relaxing evening. Each fire for their correct purpose.
great video been looking for a cheap good wood stove and nesting pot . thanks to your awesome video i managed yo pick up a similar stove off e bay for $20 can. and the pot from mec for $30 super excited to try it out thanks again beautiful area your in reminds me of my old stomping grounds in Ont living out west now in BC GOING BACK NEXT SUMMER FOR AN ALGONQUIN CANOE TRIP THIS SET UP WILL BE COMING
that does seem to be a really nice stove, and packs down nice too. I have many small gas stoves from etekcity to the D power stove. but I'm leaning towards the wood stoves too, to go along with my gas stoves. the old adage....2 is 1 and 1 is none. thank for the info. stay safe my friend.
I really favour wood/twig/stick stoves myself. I prefer alcohol as a back up mostly because it runs quietly but also it has less of an environmental impact than do canister gas stoves. I do have both but prefer alcohol. Thanks again for commenting
I have 3 esbit 1 lidaxa wood alcohol and a Vulcan canned heat also boreal bush craft fire box the best I don't know they all have a use for the time right now I'm liking the lidaxa cause it takes esbit alcohol and wood great series I was thinking of getting one of them but didn't know if they worked that well so now I do thanks atb brother .....tpm
I generally dislike those round stoves that seem to take up a lot of space, but that is pretty tidy the way it all fits into the pot. And yeah, any stick stove, for me, must be compatible for an alcohol stove for those damp days.
Glad you enjoyed. I have seen the same stove branded under a number of different names. One word of caution, there is a new version on the market that is considerably larger in all dimensions. Unfortunately It won't fit in the MSR pot. Hopefully you won't have any issues. Thanks for commenting
Mark I have a couple alcahol stoves there small and very Efficient for boiling water on The now and when you burn Them in your gasafire stove It's a radickle burn but good part About it is it help clean your stove I made them out of two little spray Bottles have a great day Jim Fish
Mark thanks for this very informative video and review. I have been looking at and comparing small light weight wood burning stoves for sometime now. Your review on both the stove and MSR 775 ml Stowaway Pot tipped the scales and I've just ordered both via eBay. I look forward to receiving and try both on an outing soon! Thanks again, Ralph in Atlanta GA USA.
I had an opportunity to do a test cook in the backyard of both the stove and pot. Absolutely thrilled with both. Have you researched any small fry pans?
Take a small canvas bag full of pellet wood with you on those rainy days, will burn for quite a while with one fill and top down burn from below the top holes for efficiency. I take one on hikes around the city I live in the PNW just for a cup of hot coffee freshly brewed. Take a extra clean cup, you will meet many friends with the aroma of a fine brew.
Hello there, i've seen some of your videos and you have my compliments, just subscribed. I've made some wood stove myself and also have videos about that on my channel; I ended up buying this one because of the compactness. See you around in the woods...
Actually Mr. Young this stove and the Silverfire scout are both copies of the UK company Wildstoves Wild Woodgas Stove which i have owned for maybe 20 years now, if i am not mistaken the Wild Woodgas Stove is the original...
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Don't mention it Sir, There was a time when i didn't love this stove as much as i do now, i was hard to regulate the flame and i kept burning my lunch but after watching a fella from England use it and cook some pretty gourmet meals i fell in love with this stove, well the WildStove version. Check out CampingLNT's channel here on UA-cam he has some great videos using this style stove and how not to burn your lunch.
Mark I bot A little gasifire stove that comes in a pot with a lid I cut a hand held mini dtrainrt I cut out the Screen put it in the bottem of my new stove and put a cup and a half Wood pellets it burned For three hours its cool little stove HAVE a Great day Jim Fish
You are right in picking me up on that. Hard to get away from equipment. I was hoping to encourage people to think beyond equipment and not making it the main focus of their experience
Mark I like the way you have birch bark since we don't have. Birch bark I USE fat wood with a. Pintsel Sharpenerthat cuts it and puts it in A plastic containér
Good info. These stoves seem ok for one person, eating in courses. If you had someone along, would you then have two same stoves or go for bigger stove like Solo Fireplace?
I have used this stove and my larger 1.6 L MSR Stow-a-way pot to cook meals for my wife and I. It should be plenty big enough for at least three or more people with the right size pot. Thanks for watching and commenting
I am trying to keep it real. I have no sponsorship and I'm not making money from UA-cam so I feel I can be as honest and fair in what I say as possible. Thank you for watching
Hi Mark, Very informative video as usual! Just a couple of questions..Is there enough space in the 750ml pot, to put the stove in a bag before stowing in the pot? Just trying to avoid directly putting a dirty pot inside my cook pot...Secondly, could you tell me the diameter of the 750ml pot? I have ordered one of these stoves and just want to do some measuring before it arrives..Many thanks, Peter
Hi Peter. yes, there is enough room to pack your stove in a thin bag to store it inside the pot. The pot measures 14cm wide. I will tell you, I see now there are a few different model stoves out there. Some are larger than others. The Lixada one I bought works well but some are bigger. I personally don't bother with the stuff sack. I find there is minimal soot in my pot when I take the stove out. Maybe a tiny bit but it blows or wipes right out. Thanks for commenting
It can only be a patent infringement if they copied a patented design. Silver Fire did not invent the wood gasification stove, nor is the design you see here inherently theirs. Some elements might be unique, but what are they? Flame shaped holes? Their website claims some sort of patented design, but it requires me to parse the language and guess at what is patented (if they even hold a patent). However, they do not provide a patent number, which is required by US Patent law to claim infringement. My guess, they hold no patents, manufacture theirs in China as well, but charge $52 + s/h for something I can get for $18.99 shipped. I'll support made in the USA, made in Canada etc., but made in China when no better option exists, I'm going to find the absolute lowest price I can. Lastly, thanks for the review Sir!
I'll gladly pay a little more for something made in Canada or USA. I'm tired of not only seeing our good industrial jobs leaving to go over there, but all the ingenuity and innovation just being ripped off. Plus the vast majority of times these very cheap Chinese knock off are shitty quality (no comment on this particular product). Of course there is a point where things can get too expensive, and not being someone who is rich, has to consider the alternatives, but I try my best. I really hate china and the dirty way they operate.
If i were to choose i would chose my Tomshoo wood gas stove. Its versital, can bw use with alcohol stove and can burn lots of difrent fuels and its eficient 😊
Great information! I also have a couple of these Chinese stoves, the one like yours and the one with the three folding arms in the pot stand. I also store one in a 775 ml Stowaway Pot like you do, but did you know that for storage purposes, that pot fits into an old Crown Royal bag? Fits like a glove. Hey, thanks for the video!
Crown Royal you say.. sound like as good reason to buy a bottle as any... the stuff sack I use I made from material bought at a thrift store... was an easy and inexpensive project. Thanks for watching
Heat regulation would be similar to an open fire. Adding more fuel or waiting until it burns down helps control heat. It is challenging to re-position a pot away from the heat like you might do with an open fire. I find this type of stove works best for boiling water but can be used for simmering and frying by waiting until the fire dies down a bit. Hope this helps
Hi Mark Thankyou for your very helpful video. I have an older version of the Lixada which sadly doesn't have the pot stand 'collar' with stick feed opening. I am trying to see if I can order that separately. But did your lixada not come with pot stand cross bars that sit on the collar? Rgds ordered
barrie watson Absolutely Barrie. I think all my wood stoves, with may the exception of the small folding Lixada would work well with the DIY wood pellets. Maybe the Lixada would as well. Thanks for commenting
I found this link on eBay.ca www.ebay.ca/itm/LIXADA-LIGHTWEIGHT-WOOD-STOVE-ALCOHOL-STOVE-BURNER-OUTDOOR-COOKING-PICNIC-B-T9G8-/371775890171?hash=item568f91e2fb:g:MKkAAOSwcLxYFBY7 From the pictures it appears to be the same as the one I bought Good luck and thanks for commenting
I have...the Core 4 and Core 5 look really interesting... would love to get my hands on one... know anybody who would like to send one to me??...thanks for commenting
I have the older knock-off with the 3 folding pot holders. They do not work with smaller pots so i got a computer fan guard to keep the pot straight. It also doubles as a grill. I want to try the stove with wood pellets, I hear it works good. I did do a boil test with mine, you can watch my video ua-cam.com/video/1PsyfnQNkHE/v-deo.html. Thank you for the video, Mark. I wanted to see if your model was any better than the one I got.
I can't imagine mine being that much if any better than yours. Both styles work well. I have heard that wood pellets work very well in these stoves. Might try that myself. I bought a few of the computer fan guards to use for baking in my Zebra billy can. I like how they can be used for a number of different things. I'll check your video out. Thanks
the main thing was just pot stability. The pot I used was at least 4 liters so it was stable. The Stanley pots would not work. cups either. It did come with the little ash catcher, however. Thank you for the reply, Mark
I ordered mine on ebay and it actually came with a small grill that fits perfectly. I use it most of the time. I also make my own wood pellets by cutting up 1/4 to 1/2 inch sticks into 1/2 to 3/4 inch lengths with my bacho saw. It's like the ultimate fuel and you can make a bunch of it in no time. I keep a small stuff sack just for my pellets and whenever I have a little time to kill at camp I'll chop up a sack full to hang on my pack to have handy for a quick lunch break or when I get to camp and all the wood is wet. I've got dry fuel to get things started.
The designer of the stove has not understood the airflow dynamics of a woodgas stove. A well designed stove properly packed will go to a blue flame within minutes of ignition, which means a clean hot burn and almost no soot created. It will burn for a long time without adding any more wood.
Good point. I find it also depends on the quality of the wood. If the wood is the least bit wet, it still smokes regardless. Also, if I have wood above the secondary vent holes. It smokes until the burn is well established. Thanks for commenting
Actually had alcohol leak into a pot and did not notice as it had dried by the time I went to use it. The taste was so bad. Had to wash the pot multiple time. Thanks for commenting
www.ebay.com/itm/311928878350 do you think this is the same stove? it doesn't say it's made by lixada. but it looks the same to me. just wondering because i got the 775 ml pot too
Mark Young they came so cheap I bought a second one I'm going to ship it down to my girlfriends brother in the Philippines he's a policeman there and they do a lot of jungle operations of course they never have good gear so I've been making it my mission to outfit him well
You are so cool. Non pretentious, accessible and informative. Bravo, king.
Thank you for your kind words
I was thinking of making my own stove but I seen your video and the rest is history cheers and I'm still waiting for my stove to arrive 😊
I have made a few stoves and this is a much easier way to go. Thanks for commenting
Excellent review.
There are loads of videos of people giving reviews of these where it is evident that they don't actually know how to use the stove properly.
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I have the lixada version of one of these myself and what you demonstrate is spot on.
It is great to someone who actually knows what he is talking about 👍
Thank you for your kind words. My knowledge of how to use these stoves probably comes from trying different things and figuring what works best. Thanks for commenting
A great Stove marvellously demonstrated. Top burn down burn is the way to go. I love mine. I use 2 x aluminium foil plates that the stove sits inside when alight to catch the ash. The foil plates weigh nothing and the pot that the stove nests inside sits inside the plates also when packed away. Thank you for sharing. Happy wandering. Paul :)
The foil plates are a great idea. Thanks for watching
Hi Mark and thanks for the excellent video with explanations.
I recently picked up the Tomshoo version of this stove and really impressed.
For fuel, I just like to pick up twigs etc from the floor, but here in the UK it is usually damp. So, first I load the chamber with a hand full of dryish leaves and really small twigs, then cheat by adding a dollop of Fire Dragon gel fuel to the small dish that came with my set up. Any small tin should do here. First I light this, then place the stove over it. giving an intense start to the wood. Next, when this catches, put the top ring and pot stand into place, then just add twigs and bigger diameter pieces. It does not take long for the gasification to start.
For cooking or frying, let the fire die away to coals, then add small twigs, which does give some control over temperature.
I like the MSR pot idea there. but I use a Trangia 27 pot and fry pan into which the stove fits. This gives me the ability to cook sausages, which I really enjoy.
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Should the weather turn really wet, the fire chamber can be inverted and the small dish used with the Fire Dragon fuel to get a hot drink or cook on. However, I find that there is a something about cooking with a wood fire that other fuel types do not give you.
During the wetter months, the Swedish Military Ranger stove comes into its own, the stove that the Trangia cookset was developed from apparently.
Thanks for the really good informative videos Mark and hike safe.
Great tips on using the stove. I never thought of pairing it with the Trangia. I will give that a try. Thanks for commenting
I must admit that when I ordered my $18.00 gasifier stove I was not expecting much from it and was pleasantly surprised by its efficiency. I own the original solo stove and to be honest I can't justify the cost difference, the knock off works every bit as good. Thanks for sharing
Thanks Wayne. I don't have a Solo but would love to own a BushBuddy at 6oz weight... but I can't justify the cost. Would have to buy a pot that it fits in as well:)
+Mark Young (Shunpyke) I agree, when I bought the solo stove I bought the 900ml nesting pot with it. They didn't have the less expensive options back then as they do now.
Unfortunately Fritz stopped making the BB. He could not make them competitively with the Chinese imports or the Chinese made Solo stoves. It was just him making them all by himself in the Yukon. (opps my bad, he also had another guy making them across the border in Alaska) I have the BB .006" version and I love it like a charm. Unlike the Chinese knock off of the Starfire version, the BB doesn't scorch the earth under it. In fact I can pick up the BB with bare fingers at the bottom and hold it in the palm of my hand while it is burning. The BB is a little smaller (4.25" dia) and the chamber is not as tall so it can only hold half the fuel of the Starfire and its clones. But it is 1/2 the weight and more compact.
As usual, an informative and well thought out discussion in this video.
I especially like that you showed how that stove nests so tidily into that MSR pot, making it very compact, especially on day trips or overnighters where a more elaborate cooking set (multiple pots, pans, etc) isn't necessary. I always appreciate knowing which pieces of gear work well together as you demonstrated here.
And since you asked us about what stick stoves we favour, my own favourite is the tiny Firebox Nano Gen2. There are multiple ways of feeding it and using it, including with the Trangia burner. It's lightness and compact nature (it folds flat) means it can be made to nest in nearly any cook kit. It's unfortunately quite expensive.
Cheers,
- Martin
Thanks Martin. I recall you demonstrating the Vital Stove a few years ago. I thought it was quite a cool little stove. Have you used the Firebox Nano in wet or cold conditions yet? I have a knock-off Emberlit Fire Ant that is hard to keep lit if the materials are not perfectly dry
The Vital Stove is definitely the most versatile, efficient, and easy to use twig stove I've ever used, but because it's a battery-powered fan stove , I was leaving it out of consideration when considering what my fave twig stove would be.
The Firebox Nano has worked well for me in all conditions in which I've tried it, including autumnal wet and cold, but I've not tried it in winter yet. You raise a good point about how difficult it can be to keep a twig stove lit, especially the small twig stoves. The burn chamber of the Firebox Nano is so small that it's important that one feed it frequently, which can be rather tedious and fiddly if one has to feed twigs in through the top under one's cooking pot. But the designer came up with a clever solution: two fuel feeding holes in the lower part of two adjacent walls of the burn chamber. These holes allow one to feed long twigs or dry splits of wood horizontally into the burn chamber, leaving most of the twigs outside the stove, with only about 3 inches of fuel inside the burn chamber. As the twigs or splits burn up into coals, one can gradually feed the unburned portions of the twigs/splits into the chamber, inch by inch. This is much less fiddly and tiresome. It also makes it possible to cook with a wider pan or pot on the stove, which would otherwise be in the way if one were trying to feed the fuel in fro the top. Thus far, it's worked well for me in damp, wet conditions, but I have not yet tried it outside in winter, though I frankly have no intention of using it here with our snowy, windy winters. When winter camping, I tend to make a larger warming fire to cook on, or else I cook inside my igloo with my Trangia stove out of the cold and wind.
Cheers,
- Martin
Thanks again Martin. I will have to reconsider the Nano. I would very much like to have a small lightweight stove for those days when I try to go minimal
Of all the stoves and kit you've reviewed and showcased this stove teamed up with your MSR pot and alcohol stove is the best for the money spent. Glad I have this setup as it's fine with wood and the wood pellets. This set and the Trangia 25 and 27 are my favorite stoves but the Lixada is an good deal more affordable.
My only gripe or complaint with the Lixada stove is I can't moderate the heat with pellets or wood. It's an intense all out heat.
I agree. Great value setup. Yes, that is true with wood pellets in all my stoves. Thanks for commenting
I Got also a wood gas stove tomshoo with wide opening to feed it with a cross on top to fit smaller Pots. To the setup i have nature hike alcohol stove. It all fits in my Rockland Pots 😊👍, will make a video od it. Subscribed, liked 😊 and took that path less travelled. Cheers Mark from Poland
Hello and welcome to my channel. Sounds like you have a great system. Thanks for commenting and subscribing
These stoves are the ultimate carry and cook pieces of kit. A literal 2ft long 1/2 inch around twig could boil water to save your life or cook a small meal.
Right on. Thanks for commenting
Your a legend this video was extremely useful regarding the msr stowaway 775ml pot And he lixada wood stove i'v just purchased them aswell now as opose to the solo stove and hualite cookwear which would have cost 5 times more!!
Glad the video helped out. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for this informative video. I just bought this stove on Amazon today, I was able to get great deal for just under $13 U S. I have been wanting a wood gasifier. You came up with some great combinations for this stove with the MSR pot and the Trangia. Thanks again I enjoy your channel.
Glad you enjoyed it. If your model is the same size as mine it will fit in any 14cm diameter pot. Thanks for commenting
Great video Mark. I have the other style, one with the little pull out pot supports so mine can’t do the trangia trick. These are good stoves providing you use small twigs so as the embers do not clog the air holes in the ash tray. ATB Jason.
Glad you liked the video. I agree, there is a bit of a trick to getting the most from these stove but when they are set up right, they work great. Thanks for commenting
Great video again! That nesting setup is a sweet deal. I can see maybe just buying a stove someday when I'm done playing with coffee cans. Take care!
Thanks. I have your coffee can videos in my line-up to watch
Your video caught my attention cause I just picked one of these stoves up used for only $5. I didn't know anything about this particular brand prior to purchasing but i figured for the price, I didn't have much to lose. I tried it out in the back yard with some well seasoned cedar and my 14cm zebra pot. I was very impressed. The gasification happens very quickly and the fire was virtually smokeless just as yours was. I had a litter boiled up in no time. I also have the seagul pot and was pleased with how neatly everything nests (btw, it also fits quite nicely in the zebra pot which is more or less the sane diameter as the 775 seagul).
Personally, I favour my homemade pop can alcohol stove over the Trangia. I found that if you turn the burn chamber upside down in the stove it works very nicely as a pot stand/wind screen for the alcohol stove. It leaves a bit more space between the alcohol stove and the pot than is ideal but I plan to remedy this by building a taller pop can stove, though my boil time for 2 cups only increased by about 30sec.
Great idea regarding the pop can stove. I have made a number of these and have had great success with them. My favourite stove is the "fancy feast" style and I have made a working simmer ring for it as well. Thanks for watching
Great video demonstration!
This is what I like and appreciate best; honest demonstrations, without the product push or dancing girls.
I've had a number of gasifier type stoves, I liked them alot, one of the best I had was the larger solo stove with the matching pot...close to two liter.
I found the larger the stove the better they worked overall, but they are fun and effective across the board.
I tried the same stove recently, belonged to a friend who also had it in the pot, It worked quite well, and with a trangia as well...made mashed potatoes with chicken and gravy. :0)
I found these stoves worked very well with a set-up similar to the canadian candle/Swedish fire torch... but it needs to be a very dry piece of wood, split into wedges, and lit from top down. Once the bigger pieces get going it's a very steady and long lasting burn, and usually enough to cook a meal and get a coffee before you have to start adding fuel.
In any case, great vid.
I think you should leave the series open ended personally. :0)
So many stoves, so precious little time...
Thanks Randal. I am finding the same thing with wood stove. Larger stoves don't seem to be bothered as much by wood that is not perfectly dry. I agree, stove can be addictive....
Mark. Finally thought I'd try a purchased twig stove and this one was found on local kijiji. Had a pot that it nests in perfectly also. Very impressed indeed, especially with the quality of construction. Very solid. Video up soon.
Jeff
Cool Jeff. Looking forward to your video
Very informative. Straight forward and to the point. I like that. I recently bought the MSR 475 Stowaway pot. I picked that one because it seemed the right size/weight for one person. I've been looking at the Lixada twig stove but just haven't pulled the trigger yet. I've been planning on just using a small trench fire because of weight and cost. Your video has me leaning back toward the Lixada though. Decisions decisions. They're fun to ponder.
I've considered the MSR 475ml pot as well. Might buy it yet. You won't be disappointed in the wood gas stove but for me, it makes the most sense packing it inside my MSR 775ml pot. Thanks for watching
Thanks. I'm about ready to pull the trigger.
That looks like a handy efficient stove. That is awesome that it fits inside the pot. That is my complaint of those round type stoves is that they often take up quite a bit of room in the pack. Looks like you solved that problem with your setup.
I agree Loni. If I had not discovered that the stove would fit in the MSR pot I may not have bought it. I am glad it did. It's quite a good stove to use. Thanks again
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Far North Bushcraft And Survival
Lonnie I have a Tom shoo gasafire
Thsts just like Johns heart I keep it
In my zebra 14.m m pot and I REALY enjoy watching your videos
Thanks and have a great dsy
But you dont Get that eficienty in square stoves
Thanks for this review on this Mark. The fact it fits the MSR seagul is a huge selling point. It should also fit the Solo 1800 pot and that's a huge bonus as well. I picked up the exact stove but it's not Lixada name but same exact design. I've ran it with wood and here we only have softwood so she's a needy hungry stove but it's hot. I've been also using the Trangia as you suggested and it's perfect. This is a good unit 👌
Looks like a pretty efficient light weight stove, great review. Thanks for sharing.
Not super light but a justifiable weight. Thanks for watching Jackie
Good review, thanks for the info. I just ordered one of these for $18 CAD on eBay. I'm planning a thru hike this spring (Rideau Trail) and wanted to utilize forest fuel. I think this stove will do the trick. I usually cook over fire but after a 25-30km day gathering some twigs is more appealing than building a cookie fire.
Thanks for the kind comments. I was playing with my stove again today. It works great and packs to well when combined with the MSR Seagull Stow-a-way 775ml pot. Puts our a lot of heat but goes through fuel pretty fast
Hi Mark, well you almost sold me that combo idea😉 I'm looking to get a new cooking pot and I'm undecided between the MSR and the Zebra 🤔 I usually use my DIY stoves ( Ikea,small emberlit version Android differents woodgas ones) but this idea of nesting the Lixada woodgas one into the MSR pot is absolutelly perfect to me for less than 50$ you have the perfect combo . Thanks for sharing this with great details and infos. Your Channel is now a must to watch for me you bring very valuables trusty and honest opinions along with a philosophy that I share👌 Keep on Your great work brother 👊🙌✌️
Ciao from Québec ⚜
Thank you my friend
Mark, Hi from Scotland. I use this stove but use the 14cm Zebra can. Looking at the MSR it seams more compact so will switch to that after watching. Great videos and informative so keep them coming. C
Hello Clive. The MSR is more compact but the Zebra will hold more water. I would prefer carrying the Zebra for melting snow in during the winter. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for commenting
I was looking for a way to grill on the little portable wood burning stove and your video answer my question. For other cooking stuff in water boiling water whatever I will use the pellets but when I want to girl something piece of steak or hamburger hot dog or something I'll use the charcoal briquettes. Thank you very helpful video
Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for commenting
Fantastic kit!
Glad you liked it. Thanks for commenting
I'm having trouble getting you a few photos of the"grille bowl" I made for my wood gasification stoves. Just a basic stainless steel bowl with a weber grill insert placed inside of it. Bought a 14" SS bowl with a 12.5" weber insert so it sits about 1-2 inches below the upper lip of the bowl. I then ran on four corners self tapping screws of about 1.5" in lengrh through at a slight up angle for a place to let the grill insert rest. It really works amazing and you cam even store your stove and lighting supplies inside the grille bowl for camping. Wish I could send you those pictures! Wood has stoves are one of my favorite pieces of kit.
So, the bowl rests on top of the stove and transfers heat through to the grill? If I have it right I will see if I can reproduce your setup. I will send pictures first
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yes, you can do it one of two ways really. Couldake the whole big enough to slide over the top of the pot stands then fold them to the open position after it's in place, or else make a smaller hole or holes then place it like you would a pan or pot on the top as normal.
Mark-My Tomshoo is similar stove like yours but it is an upgrade version with grill, better pot suport and an ash plate that is larger then alcohol tray that i had in the past.
There have been quite a few improvements (mostly) to the stove since I bought mine. Thanks for commenting
No problem Mark 😉
A great video presentation. I have the same pot and a Lixada with the three flip out stand and the stove was too high so will review how I store the stove. I have just two videos uploaded and I have longer than five minutes recorded but not edited yet on my stoves, including IKEA stoves.
I will take a look. Thanks for commenting
Looking forward to getting some wood pellets. I like that idea. And the cost is about right.
They work well in the wood gas stoves for sure. Thanks for commenting
I have the same set up with the msr pot but if in damp conditions I use cat litter wood pellets which are light and easy to carry and burn very well and hot then you can start adding twigs and any dead standing you find works a treat
I actually just bought some hardwood pellets to try in the stove. Check out my video where I compare the Lixada against the Solo Titan. Thanks for commenting
Carry a pair of garden hand shears to cut branches. Processing is fast and accurate. Cut lengths just short of the rim. Use twigs to start on top and sticks about an inch thick (thumb size) in the chamber and after burn starts. A flashing wind screen around the pot will decrease boil time.
All good suggestions. Thanks for commenting
Very nice stove well tought design
It truly is. Thank you for watching
I have a clone of this stove I've used a few times. Works great, but one downside is you need to feed it almost constantly. You can't just load it up and expect it to burn for more than 10 to 30 minutes (depending on wood), where bigger fires with bigger fuel might stay lit more than an hour without feeding.
I agree with your experience. I find that true of most stick stoves regardless of design. I have been able to create a fairly long burn by stacking short sticks vertically in the burn chamber until it is almost full. I then start a top down burn. This takes longer to get going but does last a little longer. For me, the benefit of a stick stove is being able to make a small controllable fire that uses very little fuel and leaves no trace afterwards. The downside is weight of the stove and having to tend them constantly. Thanks for commenting
Mark Young Yes, definite advantages and disadvantages. The stove is good for quick cooking and go or go to sleep, and doesn't require a lot of hauling of water or digging of sand to put it out. It burns out and cools down quickly if not fed. It isn't great for sitting around and warming up by for a relaxing evening. Each fire for their correct purpose.
great video been looking for a cheap good wood stove and nesting pot . thanks to your awesome video i managed yo pick up a similar stove off e bay for $20 can. and the pot from mec for $30 super excited to try it out thanks again beautiful area your in reminds me of my old stomping grounds in Ont living out west now in BC GOING BACK NEXT SUMMER FOR AN ALGONQUIN CANOE TRIP THIS SET UP WILL BE COMING
I think you will be please with both the stove and the pot. Your trip to Algonquin sounds amazing. Thanks for commenting
that does seem to be a really nice stove, and packs down nice too. I have many small gas stoves from etekcity to the D power stove. but I'm leaning towards the wood stoves too, to go along with my gas stoves. the old adage....2 is 1 and 1 is none. thank for the info. stay safe my friend.
I really favour wood/twig/stick stoves myself. I prefer alcohol as a back up mostly because it runs quietly but also it has less of an environmental impact than do canister gas stoves. I do have both but prefer alcohol. Thanks again for commenting
I have 3 esbit 1 lidaxa wood alcohol and a Vulcan canned heat also boreal bush craft fire box the best I don't know they all have a use for the time right now I'm liking the lidaxa cause it takes esbit alcohol and wood great series I was thinking of getting one of them but didn't know if they worked that well so now I do thanks atb brother .....tpm
Stoves can be addictive... Thank you for watching
Great video. I was looking for something to use to on the wood burning pellet stove
Thanks for commenting
Great video. Thank you for your time
Glad you enjoyed. Thank you for commenting
I generally dislike those round stoves that seem to take up a lot of space, but that is pretty tidy the way it all fits into the pot. And yeah, any stick stove, for me, must be compatible for an alcohol stove for those damp days.
It is a compact set up but a bit heavy. Thanks for commenting
Very good video 👍 I just ordered this setup with msr pot but I think the stove is now called and sold by Zhongmei on Amazon.
Glad you enjoyed. I have seen the same stove branded under a number of different names. One word of caution, there is a new version on the market that is considerably larger in all dimensions. Unfortunately It won't fit in the MSR pot. Hopefully you won't have any issues. Thanks for commenting
I received the stove and msr pot today, it fits inside perfectly. Thank you 👍
Luv mine so far, 20bucks on Amazon, called the Conway stove. Gr8 video, I subbed.
Mark I have a couple alcahol stoves there small and very
Efficient for boiling water on
The now and when you burn
Them in your gasafire stove
It's a radickle burn but good part
About it is it help clean your stove
I made them out of two little spray
Bottles have a great day Jim Fish
Interesting idea. Thanks James
Mark thanks for this very informative video and review.
I have been looking at and comparing small light weight wood burning stoves for sometime now.
Your review on both the stove and MSR 775 ml Stowaway Pot tipped the scales and I've just ordered both via eBay.
I look forward to receiving and try both on an outing soon!
Thanks again,
Ralph in Atlanta GA USA.
I am glad my review helped you out. I don't think you will be disappointed with either item. Thank you for watching
I'll let you know my thoughts once it arrives but I'm positive I'll be thrilled!
Mark I received my MSR 775 ml Stowaway Pot yesterday and I'm totally thrilled!!
Look forward to trying it out soon!
I glad you like the pot. I find I like mine so much I almost have to force myself to take something different out for a change
I had an opportunity to do a test cook in the backyard of both the stove and pot. Absolutely thrilled with both. Have you researched any small fry pans?
Take a small canvas bag full of pellet wood with you on those rainy days, will burn for quite a while with one fill and top down burn from below the top holes for efficiency.
I take one on hikes around the city I live in the PNW just for a cup of hot coffee freshly brewed. Take a extra clean cup, you will meet many friends with the aroma of a fine brew.
Absolutely, I see you have also watched a couple of my later videos so you know I do that as well. Thanks for commenting
Yup saw that vid after I had posted this. It works well.
I have one and I love it! Well done video
I like mine as well. Check my video comparing it against the Solo stove. Thanks for commenting
You look good with your hat mister 😁 i have the same msr pot and its very good . Peace
Tilley hats can make anyone look good😅. Love my MSR pot. Thanks for commenting
great tip with the flashing.
I have found multiple uses for aluminum flashing. Thank you for watching
Hello there, i've seen some of your videos and you have my compliments, just subscribed. I've made some wood stove myself and also have videos about that on my channel; I ended up buying this one because of the compactness. See you around in the woods...
Thank you sir. I like making things for myself but sometimes a few dollars well spent are worth it.
nice,you can put the wood tray under the trangia for that sweet spot :)
Absolutely. Great suggestion. Thanks for commenting
Actually Mr. Young this stove and the Silverfire scout are both copies of the UK company Wildstoves Wild Woodgas Stove which i have owned for maybe 20 years now, if i am not mistaken the Wild Woodgas Stove is the original...
Good to know. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Don't mention it Sir, There was a time when i didn't love this stove as much as i do now, i was hard to regulate the flame and i kept burning my lunch but after watching a fella from England use it and cook some pretty gourmet meals i fell in love with this stove, well the WildStove version. Check out CampingLNT's channel here on UA-cam he has some great videos using this style stove and how not to burn your lunch.
I would say that "the ultimate stove", would be the one that SOMEBODY ELSE is using, to cook for me! 😁
😅 Thanks for commenting
Awesome job! For about $35 U.S. on Amazon, I can get a complete cook set using this combination of stove and pot.
It makes a great combination for sure. Thanks for commenting
Mark I bot A little gasifire stove that comes in a pot with a lid I cut a hand held mini dtrainrt I cut out the
Screen put it in the bottem of my new stove and put a cup and a half
Wood pellets it burned For three hours its cool little stove HAVE a
Great day Jim Fish
Wow. Good performance Jim
Great video. I just subscribed. I just bought this stove and have the same alcohol stove like you do.
Hello and thank you for subscribing. How are you liking your wood gas stove?
Very interesting! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for commenting
Don't focus on the equipment. Having said that, let's focus on the equipment. ; )
You are right in picking me up on that. Hard to get away from equipment. I was hoping to encourage people to think beyond equipment and not making it the main focus of their experience
Mark Young I agree. Do not wait till you get perfect gear. Get out there.
I have a. Zeebra pot I,could store
My stove
I have a pot and pan and tea pot
If I removed the teapot I could
Fit my stove in the center of the
Pan and pot but I REALY,like my tea pot
My gasification stove is just like yours ecsepted the pot holder
Mark I like the way you have birch bark since we don't have. Birch bark I USE fat wood with a. Pintsel
Sharpenerthat cuts it and puts it in
A plastic containér
Fatwood is amazing. I wish we had it in greater quantities around here
Good info. These stoves seem ok for one person, eating in courses. If you had someone along, would you then have two same stoves or go for bigger stove like Solo Fireplace?
I have used this stove and my larger 1.6 L MSR Stow-a-way pot to cook meals for my wife and I. It should be plenty big enough for at least three or more people with the right size pot. Thanks for watching and commenting
Ok, thanks.
Nice to see a no bs review.
I am trying to keep it real. I have no sponsorship and I'm not making money from UA-cam so I feel I can be as honest and fair in what I say as possible. Thank you for watching
The top reminds me of the solo Stove also
Very much the same. Thanks for commenting
Hi Mark, Very informative video as usual! Just a couple of questions..Is there enough space in the 750ml pot, to put the stove in a bag before stowing in the pot? Just trying to avoid directly putting a dirty pot inside my cook pot...Secondly, could you tell me the diameter of the 750ml pot? I have ordered one of these stoves and just want to do some measuring before it arrives..Many thanks, Peter
Hi Peter. yes, there is enough room to pack your stove in a thin bag to store it inside the pot. The pot measures 14cm wide. I will tell you, I see now there are a few different model stoves out there. Some are larger than others. The Lixada one I bought works well but some are bigger. I personally don't bother with the stuff sack. I find there is minimal soot in my pot when I take the stove out. Maybe a tiny bit but it blows or wipes right out. Thanks for commenting
It can only be a patent infringement if they copied a patented design. Silver Fire did not invent the wood gasification stove, nor is the design you see here inherently theirs. Some elements might be unique, but what are they? Flame shaped holes?
Their website claims some sort of patented design, but it requires me to parse the language and guess at what is patented (if they even hold a patent). However, they do not provide a patent number, which is required by US Patent law to claim infringement.
My guess, they hold no patents, manufacture theirs in China as well, but charge $52 + s/h for something I can get for $18.99 shipped.
I'll support made in the USA, made in Canada etc., but made in China when no better option exists, I'm going to find the absolute lowest price I can.
Lastly, thanks for the review Sir!
Good information. I agree. I'll buy where the best price is. Thanks for commenting
I'll gladly pay a little more for something made in Canada or USA. I'm tired of not only seeing our good industrial jobs leaving to go over there, but all the ingenuity and innovation just being ripped off. Plus the vast majority of times these very cheap Chinese knock off are shitty quality (no comment on this particular product). Of course there is a point where things can get too expensive, and not being someone who is rich, has to consider the alternatives, but I try my best. I really hate china and the dirty way they operate.
How Kenny cm is the most pot just thinking if it would go into my zebra Billy pot big thanks great video
Menny cm across the most pot sorry predict IV text on my phone thanks
It will fit into a 14cm Zebra pot or larger. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft thanks mark I think I will next them all together big thanks
very nice I shall have to get me one .
Good value for your money. Thank you for watching
If i were to choose i would chose my Tomshoo wood gas stove. Its versital, can bw use with alcohol stove and can burn lots of difrent fuels and its eficient 😊
I agree. Great performance and versatility. Thanks for commenting
Great information! I also have a couple of these Chinese stoves, the one like yours and the one with the three folding arms in the pot stand. I also store one in a 775 ml Stowaway Pot like you do, but did you know that for storage purposes, that pot fits into an old Crown Royal bag? Fits like a glove. Hey, thanks for the video!
Crown Royal you say.. sound like as good reason to buy a bottle as any... the stuff sack I use I made from material bought at a thrift store... was an easy and inexpensive project. Thanks for watching
Great review.
Thank you and thank you for watching
Mark you can find fat wood in the end of a branch in pine. Fir and spruce
Yes, but not every branch and often only in small amounts
How do you regulate the fire or heat
Heat regulation would be similar to an open fire. Adding more fuel or waiting until it burns down helps control heat. It is challenging to re-position a pot away from the heat like you might do with an open fire. I find this type of stove works best for boiling water but can be used for simmering and frying by waiting until the fire dies down a bit. Hope this helps
Thank you Mark
👍🏻
Thank you
If you liked how much it cost
At the time about $15.00 Canadian. Now About $21.00. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thank you so much for your kind response
yup, 3 years back , on the money.
One of my very first videos. Thanks for commenting
Yup
Bush box XL is expensive here in Poland to Mark 😉
Kind of expensive her in Canada as well. Shipping is so much of it. Thanks for commenting
Hi Mark
Thankyou for your very helpful video. I have an older version of the Lixada which sadly doesn't have the pot stand 'collar' with stick feed opening. I am trying to see if I can order that separately.
But did your lixada not come with pot stand cross bars that sit on the collar?
Rgds
ordered
Hi Muhammad. The stove came with just the parts that appear in the video. Thanks for commenting
What kind of pot is that.
MSR Seagull Stow-a-way pot 775 ml
Hi this is another little gasification stove that you can put two cups of pellets in and it will burn for 30 min,s regards Barrie
barrie watson Absolutely Barrie. I think all my wood stoves, with may the exception of the small folding Lixada would work well with the DIY wood pellets. Maybe the Lixada would as well. Thanks for commenting
Do you have a link to where i could buy this?
I found this link on eBay.ca
www.ebay.ca/itm/LIXADA-LIGHTWEIGHT-WOOD-STOVE-ALCOHOL-STOVE-BURNER-OUTDOOR-COOKING-PICNIC-B-T9G8-/371775890171?hash=item568f91e2fb:g:MKkAAOSwcLxYFBY7
From the pictures it appears to be the same as the one I bought
Good luck and thanks for commenting
have you seen the core 4stove?
I have...the Core 4 and Core 5 look really interesting... would love to get my hands on one... know anybody who would like to send one to me??...thanks for commenting
can't you order online?
can't justify the cost...
i got a chinese clone for $20 best thing ive ever bought !!!
Love mine as well. Thanks for commenting
I have the older knock-off with the 3 folding pot holders. They do not work with smaller pots so i got a computer fan guard to keep the pot straight. It also doubles as a grill. I want to try the stove with wood pellets, I hear it works good. I did do a boil test with mine, you can watch my video ua-cam.com/video/1PsyfnQNkHE/v-deo.html. Thank you for the video, Mark. I wanted to see if your model was any better than the one I got.
I can't imagine mine being that much if any better than yours. Both styles work well. I have heard that wood pellets work very well in these stoves. Might try that myself. I bought a few of the computer fan guards to use for baking in my Zebra billy can. I like how they can be used for a number of different things. I'll check your video out. Thanks
the main thing was just pot stability. The pot I used was at least 4 liters so it was stable. The Stanley pots would not work. cups either. It did come with the little ash catcher, however. Thank you for the reply, Mark
shovelhead8 I like that tip about the fan guard. I'll have to try that
I ordered mine on ebay and it actually came with a small grill that fits perfectly. I use it most of the time. I also make my own wood pellets by cutting up 1/4 to 1/2 inch sticks into 1/2 to 3/4 inch lengths with my bacho saw. It's like the ultimate fuel and you can make a bunch of it in no time. I keep a small stuff sack just for my pellets and whenever I have a little time to kill at camp I'll chop up a sack full to hang on my pack to have handy for a quick lunch break or when I get to camp and all the wood is wet. I've got dry fuel to get things started.
Any Trout in the lake behind you @ 5:55?
I have talked to some people that have pulled some two pounders out but I have yet to see them. Thanks for commenting
The designer of the stove has not understood the airflow dynamics of a woodgas stove. A well designed stove properly packed will go to a blue flame within minutes of ignition, which means a clean hot burn and almost no soot created. It will burn for a long time without adding any more wood.
Good point. I find it also depends on the quality of the wood. If the wood is the least bit wet, it still smokes regardless. Also, if I have wood above the secondary vent holes. It smokes until the burn is well established. Thanks for commenting
Yes i keep my alcohol fuel outside the cook kit😁the ethanol has not good smell
Actually had alcohol leak into a pot and did not notice as it had dried by the time I went to use it. The taste was so bad. Had to wash the pot multiple time. Thanks for commenting
Ok Mark 😁
I don't understand why you would want to put a spot cover stove inside your cook pot?
Not an issue to me. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft don't know why spell check changed soot to spot
The BioLite Camp Stove.
I have a video up comparing the BioLite Cook Stove with the VitalGrill Survival Stove if you are interested. Thanks for commenting
www.ebay.com/itm/311928878350 do you think this is the same stove? it doesn't say it's made by lixada. but it looks the same to me. just wondering because i got the 775 ml pot too
Yes, it is essentially the same stove. The only difference is the pot stand. It will fit inside the 775ml pot nicely
Mark Young they came so cheap I bought a second one I'm going to ship it down to my girlfriends brother in the Philippines he's a policeman there and they do a lot of jungle operations of course they never have good gear so I've been making it my mission to outfit him well
THENEWWRANGLER . You can never do enough to help out fellow officers. That is what I did for 36 years
Sorry Mark... this is taking too long.
Thanks for the comment