Reviewing the Vesta Space Heater/Stove
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2023
- With a tip from one of our viewers we purchased the Vesta and tried it out. It has some good features that may make it a useful space heater for some people. There are some down sides with attempting to cook on the stove.
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Great experiment Pam! I use a similar method when we have hurricanes here in Florida. I use a 12-14” clay pot, put it in my sink, put the canned heat down in the clay pot on top of a few pebbles, and a baking rack on top. The clay pot really holds the heat in, and I use a very cheap pot or pan to cook in. I believe this is part of my success, as cheap thin cookware heats up quicker and to higher temperatures. I am able to boil water, cook soup, eggs and bacon, and have hot water for coffee! Thanks for your informative videos, you both are a blessing to me!
Thank you for letting us know!!
I agree the type of vessel you use will impact cook times.
Great idea
I use a Sterno with my old orchid pot and Coleman cook set as it's thinner. I've lived thru a month without power during Irma, and a week after Ian. I've this stuff down to a science now! As for heat, my son in Texas, during Snowmageddon, has one, and his fireplace, so he just kept the fireplace going, but put up a tent in the Living room and used it to sleep at night. That way he didn't have to feed the fire all night. No broken pipes, and the kids thought it was great.
@@dragonslayer7587what is an orchid pot.
She talks and articulate her wording like she's very educated. I can listen to her all day just explaining things such as she's doing and she's just as accurate with her demonstrations as well.
Yes, she's a retired professor.
I think she was a school teacher 😊
She is very educated,she's a PHD. Don't you love to listen to her speak,l do.
Coleman stove. 20 dollars at Walmart. Cooks like a dream. Boil, too.
Is it safe to use indoors?
@@val_nightlily Yes, IF you are well ventilated. IF is used liquid fuel...no.
@@dillodefense Thanks!
No it is Not considered safe to use indoors regardless of ventilation! Do some of your own research on this. Then you also have the storage of the propane. Yes the Coleman does an excellent job of cooking but outdoors only. Puts out a high amount of heat one reason it cooks well but makes it a high fire danger inside. It also puts out carbon monoxide which is deadly! Devices which have been engineered to safely operate indoors have different designed burners, etc., which eliminate the danger.
Than why do so many UA-cam's cook with them? Just saying, that a one burner unit are use all the time. Totally safe indoors. I should have stated that.
Always a no nonsense review without out all the crazy music, animated behavior and gloom !!!
Well done !!!
After your review, I decided to buy the Vesta Heater. As of March 1, 2023, My Patriot Supply was offering the unit for 99.95. I have an 8 x 16 Tiny House. It has no problem heating the whole house with 3 steno cans at a temperature of 40 degrees. I did not cook on with it just used the heater. I'm very happy with my purchase. Thank you, Pam and Jim!
Love your level of detail! I think the problem with the Vesta’s cooking potential may lie in the fact that the flame is too far from the pan. From what I have studied, it seems the sweet spot for alcohol burners is about 1” below the pot. The canned chafing fuel is alcohol based, and visually it appears to be about twice that distance. This could be the issue.
It certainly could! Thanks.
I agree, cans should be raised higher.
@@xxkittymeowxx8093 I am wondering whether one fire brick could be set in the tray to raise the level of the cans. But I don't have one to measure to see it if would even fit in the tray.
What a thorough and no BS review. Excellent job Pam. ❤
Thanks so much! We appreciate that.
I am so glad that you reviewed the Vesta. As an apartment dweller I was hoping the Vesta would be a good indoor heating, cooking option in a power outtage since I wouldn't have to store propane.
Emergency Essentials is currently selling them for $99.95 if anyone is interested.
Doesn't any open flame require air fow, venting outside air?
@@recoveringsoul755 you have to be rich to afford a place that outside air would have to be vented in for a fire. There is plenty oxygen in any abode. Open a door to go out and the electric heater starts, because of the whoosh of fresh air. You could use a can of Crisco for each room burns for 72 hours. Those videos are on here somewhere ask Google at it puts you on utube.
@@sammythompson3694 carbon monoxide is cumulative and there is no way to rid your body of it.
Always use a carbon monoxide detector.
also My Patroit is as well
Thank you for doing this. I bought a Vesta last fall and tried it out for cooking. It took 55 minutes from start to finish to bring very cold tap water to a gentle boil and then cook half a pound of pasta. It does take a long time but it gets the job done and for those of us who don't have the option of safely storing propane, this stove is a winner. Thank you for all your videos. I love the science and safety.
how long do the cans last?
@@fullofhope2222 That I can't say, sorry. I only did a test run for one meal but you can get cheaper cans of fuel at Sam's club and, as has been mentioned in here, place the fuel can on top of an overturned tuna can to bring the heat closer to the pan, which should mean you'd need less burn time. I'm going to try that next time.
I'm curious about the circumstances which would make storing propane unsafe?
@@JMurphy1 If you live in the states you can look up the laws in your area. Where I live butane, canned heat, and propane is regulated for how much you can store and where. For basic common sense, if you live in an apartment without a storage shed you wouldn't be keeping tanks of propane under your bed. ; )
@@weeblesdo - Have you tried the stove again, with the extra can underneath it?
Thank you. If I had to cook food, I would make a rocket stove like you demonstrated a few years ago from concrete blocks. God Bless and stay safe. EDIT: mypatriotsupply has it for $99
Absolutely the rocket stove is the way to go for my family.
@@TrumpetReady Blessings
On My Patriot Supply the price dropped to $89
Concrete blocks can explode when they get hot. Find bricks.
@@TrumpetReady But can you use a rocket stove indoors?
If you are still in a testing mode, there is a variable you did not check out for cooking: the pan. Using a triple clad saucepan vs a backpacker's single ply aluminum or stainless steel pan. My hypothesis is that you would get a quicker temperature rise in backpacker's gear. They were designed to boil water efficiently. What would the difference be if you tried a backpacker's tea kettle? How about a backpacker's or a thin bottomed skillet against the cast iron? Perhaps you can borrow some gear to try out. The discussion in your video (and others) is on the fuel with out much mention of the type of pans that would be most successful with the fuel and stove design.
I agree, and thought about that during her demonstration. Cast iron is great over an open fire, but with the limited time you get with the canned heat, I would definitely use a thinner pan, the smallest you actually need, and also put the canned heat higher, closer to the pan.
During one snowstorm when we were out of power for a couple of weeks, I heated some canned soup in a small sauce pan with only a candle. I set an oven rack up on top of some canned goods, two or three on each side, and set my pan on top of that. So the pan was just a few inches above the flame. I don't remember if it boiled, or how long it took, but it got good and hot . It's good to have a variety of fuel sources on hand.
Stainless steel is a lousy conductor of heat it absorbs and distributes at a bad rate, making maple syrup over the years. The original pans they use were copper, and they were heated up quickly when they went to stainless steel pans because of the reability over many years of hot wood fires, not being so harsh on the pan they found that it took more heat to get the stainless steel pans to get the sap to boil. Long story short get a copper pan.
Years ago I did work in a place that the electricity and water was turned off. I took a small metal pan, put in sterno ( used for catering) , put a rack on top , poured water in a coffee pot and made tea. It didnt boil, but it was warm to drink and the heat from the metal pan kept my hands from freezing.
A canned tuna can, or canned chicken can (larger) Placed under the canned heat or the alcohol stove would raise either heat source closer to the pan used for cooking and increase the heat needed for boiling or hotter cooking.
This can also be done with a simple sterno stove.
A canned can? Isn’t that a bit too much? You place the can on top of the canned heat or alcohol stove, right, not under it? ☺️🤗💓
@@lottatroublemaker6130 put the empty can under the heat source to get the heat closer to whatever you're cooking !
@@lottatroublemaker6130 Oh, quit with the support for Ukraine already.
@@libbyhicks7549That is none of your business
I just love the way you explain things! I am 61 and never understood altitude cooking till You explained it !!! Thank you so much for your knowledge and charm ❤️Godspeed to you and your wonderful family 🙏🏼🥰✨
I think in an emergency situation this would be an awesome way to heat/cook. You could cook food without letting anyone know because there would be no smoke.
Amazing!!! Ya'll are not only teaching us, but saving us money and disappointments along the way. Thank you 💐💙🙏🇺🇲
Love your videos. Thanks ❤ Can you do a segment on heating fuel types and what the shelf life is for these? I’m concerned how to store large supplies safely and for how long.
That would be helpful❤
I would tell you with canned heat its more about distance from the flame. I use these ALL THE TIME and the warming pans OFTEN boil with a lot of water and CHEAP heat canisters. The caveat is that my chafing pans are VERY close to the flame. So it sounds like a design flaw with the Vesta product. The closer to the flame the better with those style heaters. I would add that it doesn't need to be a rolling boil to be cooked safely. You can safely cook food well below boiling as it is a time and temperature issue not just temperature. You can sous vide food as low as low as 140 degrees so long as it is cooked long enough. Still sounds like the flame should be elevated at least a bit. For room heating, I would also place the heater on the floor (the coldest air in the room) to elevate the temperature without all of the heat going straight to the ceiling. Lastly, yes a Trangia alcohol stove (or any knockoff brand) is much more efficient. However used at the proper height, the chafing warmers work well...it just seems that again this is a bad setup, but if you could find something to elevate the warmers an inch or two you would see MUCH better/faster results. .
@twiz148 - for some other experiments - e.g. using canned heat in a cake tin with a grill on top
- the canned heat cans can be raised up with the ends of tin cans - when opening the cans
( cans of various canned products from the grocery store ) the ends of the cans make
little trays for placing tea light on - and can also raise tea lights or canned heat up closer
to the cooking vessel - and somewhat adjustable depending on how many can lids / and
ends are staked together. I do wonder why the bars of the grid on the Vesta are not
spaced to allow the flame to freely rise - the bars seem to be directly over the cans, or
at least directly over some of the cans in the little tray / drawer.
Thank you for keeping things real!
Thank you for producing another informative video. I'm glad I purchased a Vesta. It gives me another option for safe indoor heating. Many types of fuel are not safe for indoor use, but fuel used for chaffing dishes can be. I'm going to purchase the alcohol stove you demonstrated also. Thank you for the suggestion and for taking the time to help so many of us.
Wow neat. Interesting. We bought our first heat driven fan for the top of our wood heater back in 1996. I couldn’t live without one now. I could see how the little heater would work to heat up one room during an outage. Thanks for your trials on this, ❄️🇨🇦❄️
They are now shipping these with 3 cans of AN UPGRADED PRODUCT - CANNED HEAT PLUS - burns much hotter & really helps boost performance. - I LOVE my vesta to help on the super cold nights when my home heat isn't quite keeping the bedroom warm enough!!!
Do you think this would be a solution for a camper van?
Thank you, as always. I have been considering getting one of these as a backup heat source. I love getting a review from people I trust.
She’s adorable! Answers questions great!
There’s a brand of cookware called “turbo pot” that has a ridged bottom which supposedly sucks more heat out of a flame. Might be worth trying out on the sterno stove
You'll have better results cooking using thinner walled pans such as dark enamel used in sun ovens. You can find sam's club brand chafing fuel in some areas for $1.61 per can. The yellow bottles of heet are not a good match to use around food if you read the MSDS on it.
I bought one of these. I think they might work better with the thinner metal camping cookware that conducts heat quickly. As far as cast iron goes, that takes awhile to heat up on my gas kitchen stove, but once it does it gets ripping hot and takes awhile to cool down. I don't know if that is a consideration you might want to take into consideration, the thinner camping cookware. I do live in a large city, my neighbors on the sides of us are only about 15 feet away, so a big attraction for us with this gizmo is that we can safely store this fuel. Of course, for heat, we'd use it in the smallest room, and close it off to the rest of the house. It might not make a room warm, but it could you from freezing. We have tall ceilings downstairs, so we'd use it in the small room upstairs. Also, my 89yr old mother lives with one of the granddaughters over on the bay in a mobile home, and I like this idea for them. Never thought of the alcohol stove, but thank you so much for doing that. We have a few of those around, so that would really help with the cooking. We bought our canned heat from COSTCO and it was absolutely cheaper than their candles. I'm so happy to took the time to test this. We have a unit called a Kelly Kettle, you can't use it for heat, but it will get water boiling in the kettle very quickly, and you can use a variety of fuel source. They've been around for awhile, and it's, apparently, the kind of thing that they used in the Highlands of Scotland to cook on.
Our house is an old barn so weve got very high vault ceilings for the living room kitchen and bedrooms but there is also a ladder up to the old hay loft which would definately be the place to shack down into with minimal heat. Its up high near the roof and small and cozy.
We are not at a high elevation, but there are better options available for heat and cooking for us in my opinion. The main con for me is that with taking longer for cooking or heating it is a waste of fuel when you may not have much to spare. Thank you for the review.
Could you grace us with your examples of 'better options'?
I would like to know as well!!
can you share with us what the better options would be?
I would also like to know what better options you are referring to.
Fuel is expensive. Not practical.
I have a feeling they could be working on a version 2. With new and improved features! That would be nice. You did a good job! 👍
Thank you for that thorough review. I agree it has its purpose as a heater. Thanks so much for all you do!
I wasn’t impressed with it ither. I didn’t buy it, first saw on the Provident Prepper. Of course it’s not horrible, but I have other backups that I have without spending the money. I’m happy you reviewed it. Thank you. These are good for apartments, but not for me
They do have these on Emergency Essentials for $99.
I'm in Florida. I use the Gas One chaffing fuel to boil water all the time. I cook ramen noodles with it. I can boil any can soups with my fuel sources.
But I use the coghlan single folding stove. Uses either sterno or chaffing candles to cook foods with.
Square pans or Rectangle pans are best on your heater/cooker in the video. And I agree, the use of Cast Iron makes it easier indeed.
Camp Chef sells a cast iron rectangle reversible griddle perfect for you heater/cooker. I've used cast iron griddle to heat my old 30' RV by itself.
Evaluation Altitude, Humidity, and Outside Temperatures makes the time to boil water vary widely. Sometimes you won't be able to true, but cast iron gear helps a lot in my experiences.
Alcohol burners like you showed are Great for quick boil times. And so are the Solid fuel cubes, which can boil water in 4-6 minutes and heats up and cast iron very quickly. Chaffing dishes can hold the fuel cubes safely. Or any small stainless steel dishes that will fit inside the unit to hold solid fuels.
Great video btw. I enjoyed it. Your high altitude experience shows pitfalls I keep hearing about.
But yeah, try more Cast Iron Pans, Pots, griddles on the Heater/cooker. You can get two square cast iron pans on the top easier and cook two different things at once. Or a larger rectangle pan/pot that covers the whole top completely, which I used a rectangle pot to cook STEW in over Hours of cooking on purpose, slow cooker style. Only used one can of the chaffing fuel to do it. Lid on the cast iron pot helped it boil at a low boil the entire time. Came out great. Try it, if it sounds interesting to you. The Cast iron pot/lid got hot and kept my RV warm that winter. It was around 35°F that day. But warmer temps should work better.
I have gas logs but a small tank and it's hard to get propane delivery at times. I found a Vesta Space Heater at My Patriot Supply online today for under $100 and purchased it. I am disabled, and have a recliner in my bedroom. This will allow me to be comfortable in my bedroom, sit in the recliner and read with my book lights in case of power outage. I have a two burner cook stove in the garage, and a grill on the deck I can use to cook if necessary. I'm purchasing a new carbon monoxide
detector for the bedroom to be extra safe. I use one in my living room near the gas logs. Thank you so much. Oh, and I also ordered the Presto digital canner. I can but at age 83, the smaller amounts, and the digital canner will be easier for me to make meals in a jar. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us.
I love your honest reviews, thank you so much! Y'all never disappoint or promote something that might be a waste of money for those of us on very low SocSec income!
Thanks! I was looking for something to use in our RV during cold boondock camping where we don’t want to use the propane!
I’m wanting it for a van. How did it work out for you?
Excellent review and nicely detailed.
Excellent video. Thank you for all your hard work.
Thank you for the fantastic review. You two are so appreciated!
Your common sense approach is a wonderful thing!
Thank you!
What a great little heater!
I do stock a lot of Sterno for preps. Bought one of these but honestly only for a little additional heat, a regular old Sterno stove is better for cooking. Even better for cooking soups etc is an old fashioned fondue pot with an alcohol or sterno burner. You can buy a stainless steel fondue pot from the 70s for cheap in a thrift shop (get one with a pot lid). Everything you need to heat soup in a stable platform.
I have a fondue pot and never thought of using it like that, probably because I rarely use it, lol. But it has an open lid. Maybe I can come up with a lid for it, or use foil.
I was just thinking of buying one of these and using the Sam's club chaffing dish cans. This is such an informative and timely video Pat!!! God bless both of you for helping all your viewers!!!
Should try camping pans. Those are thinner metal may work better. Because sterno camp stoves can heat up camp sets and mess kits
Your reviews are the best !!
Thanks for the review.
Thank you for your review
Thank you for all you teach us, so very interesting
every yours's VDO so valuable for me Thank you for created it I watch every one of them
This is awesome thank you
Great review.
This was very interesting. Thank you
great review
Great review
GREAT DEMO, THANKYOU!
Great explanation, thank you!
Thank you so much for this information!!
Thanks for this review, Pam and Jim! I enjoyed watching it.
Take care and God Bless.
Excellent review!! 💜
I just found your video site….great info…thank you for putting these together
Great review. Thank you.
Glad to know about this, thank you.
Super information. Thanks so much!
I just love watching your videos! May God bless you and Mr Jim with a wonderful day. ❤
I appreciate your detail of your experiments and what you do in the video. You are very thorough. Thank you!
Very interesting and informative video! Have heard about this heater on other channel’s but they never went into it to the depth you did. Love how you really test and experiment with something before giving your opinion. Great information!!! ❤
Thank you! Appreciate the real time, hands on review. 🌹
What a thorough thoughtful review. Much appreciated.
I bought one of these after watching the provident prepper. I tested it's heating ability in a 12 X 10 room and it raised the temp 2 degrees in one hour. I let it go for another hour and it didn't raise the temp anymore. I haven't cooked on it. I bought those alcohol burners and will try them. I will like to see the difference in the heating sources. I wasn't impressed much, but maybe it will work better in other areas. In a emergency 2 degrees is better than nothing.
Ty, for the info!
Thank you for the review of the Vesta heater.
After watching it and some other reviews, I decided to buy one. I actually like it more than I'd thought I would. It works well as a "personal heater", similar to one of the little 400 watt electric heaters sold on Amazon which are intended to heat a single person or a small room.
I did an experiment with it which I can now advise others NOT to do. I tried running it with 12 little tea light candles inside of it. Then I kept a close eye on it.
It did "work" in the sense that the fan started spinning, and a little heat was coming out; but the wax all melted (predictably) and made a mess. If the melted wax had ignited, as sometimes happens with tea light candle heaters, I'd have had a dangerous situation to contend with.
So... lesson learned...don't use this heater with tea light candles.
Rose, I love your videos. I really appreciate your honesty. It helps so much to know what I can actually count on. Thank you so much 😊 💖💖
Appreciate your research. Respect your opinion❤❤
I love your experiments. It helps us not waste money
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you! This was such a great and informative review!
Great demonstrations! Glad you did this review. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for the review. I bought one from Patriot Supply for 119.00 with all 3 cans of heat. I haven’t used it yet but glad you showed how it worked.
Very thorough review. You are such a joy to learn from.Thank you.
Thanks for doing this. It’s always important to test out your gear when you don’t really need it. I just tested out my tiny folding Esbit tablet stove. I found I can boil water with one tablet but need to use two tablets for cooking ramen. I did use two packages of ramen. Glad I tested it. Now I know what it does. I wouldn’t cook a stew but noodles yes! Plus stove fits in my pocket.
Yes, always test your products ahead of time. Jim
Thank you so much for doing this! I’ve really wondered if this was worth the investment. I love learning new things and the “why” behind them and your love of teaching makes this journey so much fun! Thank you both!
You are so welcome! Jim
Really informative , great review. Thank You for that .
great information!
Thank you. Very informative.
Thank you Pam
Your video’s are so helpful, I don’t think we will be purchasing this heater. Thank you for all your work to inform us so thoroughly. Your the best❤
Thank you so much for your review. I was not even aware of such a heater, so it is truly informational for me. It is definitely a good back up option for us.
I just love you guys!
Thank you! Jim
I love the way u completely explain how things work. Great job👍👍👍😊
Oh I am so glad you did this video, I got one of these a couple weeks ago but haven't tried it out yet. I bought it mainly to use for possible heating of a room when there is a power outage but nice to know what to expect if I have to cook on it at some point. I got this unit online for $99.95 from My Patriot Supply.
Thank you so much . I have been thinking about this brand 🤔
Great review! I have one also, and now I have a better understanding of how use it. Thank you both!
I love how y'all check everything out with great seriousness. Thank y'all. Blessings, julie
Thanks for your reviews. They are very helpful
You are very welcome.
Nice review! We use a Peltier fan on top of our wood stove, does a great job.
You do such a good presentation. Thank you very much
You are very welcome.
Excellent and methodical review!!
Thank you kindly! Jim
Always brilliant information, thank you for testing and your scientific mind!🤯
Thank you so much for you very thorough review!
Glad it was helpful! Jim
Very nice demo of the stove I already bought waiting to arrive you did a nice job
Thank you for this display on how it works and for the reasoning behind its heat build up. Agree with you, as a heater its best use. Terry