It’s nice to see that someone finally got it right. I can get 40-50 minutes of burn time doing it this way without ever adding additional fuel. Thank you.👍
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Can’t keep a fire burning no matter how many times I try. I live in Bristol. Can someone be kind enough to come over here and teach me the proper way to lit it?
It's nice to see someone who actually loads the stove correctly! I love my Ohuhu stove. Simple yet efficient way to cook while camping. Spoiler... try loading it with wood pellets. Works great as well.
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First the horse, then the man. (Cavalry saying) I was thinking of not using my similar stove anymore, till I saw your vid. I shall try it again now. Cheers
Because of your video (and the dog) I bought a OHUHU stove and have used it back packing multiple time. I absolutely love it. Fantastic posting, Bushcraft Padawan. Well Done. Thanks, so much
I’ve just ordered one of these and was looking for reviews and how-to videos. This looks fantastic and the fact you have a Labrador and are a veteran made me subscribe too!
I just lost my dog, Zoey, to a brain tumor and have been trying to keep my mind busy. I'm going to get out more so I just got this stove and have been trying to learn how to use it, so I'm really excited to find this video. I wish I was a more outdoor person Zoey would have enjoyed that, but we move on. I loved seeing your dog in the video though made me happy and sad. Give them a big hug for me.
I'm so very, very sorry to read this news about Zoey and am glad that a brief glimpse of Willow brought you some happiness. I gave Willow a big hug from you as did my kids 🤗
Perfect on the loading. So many people just stuff the fuel in haphazardly all the way to the top, blocking the air holes and then complain that it doesn't burn well 🤦♂️ A minor correction on the physics of the thing. The air does not combust. Air can't combust irrespective of how hot it gets coz it doesn't have the 3 elements in the fire triangle. What the double wall does do is create a chimney draft effect to "pump" air in through the air holes at the top. This then enables the volatile organics in the gas coming off of the wood to combust creating an efficient (more or less) smokeless fire. About 30% to 40% of a wood fire's chemical energy is in the VOCs which vaporise and rise as smoke in a normal fire. Gasifier stoves work to combust this which is what makes them such fantastic little bits of kit. Keep the great vids coming! ✌️
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Nicely shown, the extra burn is called the secondary burn and is also the hottest portion of the total burn available from these types of wood burning stoves. Have one myself and also the std small Lixada box type. Love your vids by the way, always entertaining and informative.
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Nice demonstration, I’ve been using this stove for years. When I’m done and it has cooled I give it a proper wipe down and then load it up with twigs for the next trip. Since I sometimes use this while driving to remote work sites it’s nice to have it ready to go for coffee breaks enroute.
I also use it same way. My tip is that you should use hard wood. The stick width should be about an inch to an inch and a ¼, or an inch and a ½. Hard wood burns hotter and lasts longer. I get a burn time of 3 to 5 minutes for gasification to start. About 12 minutes of a big flame. 5 mins of smaller flame followed by small flame for about 5 minutes. Then the hot coals give lingering usable simmering heat for about 15 mins. All in all, usable heat for about 35 to 45 mins. Enough time to cook a proper meal. ATB, The Solo Hiker....
Hi THE SOLO HIKER and many thanks for taking the time to drop by my channel, watch and comment - it's really appreciated. I must admit that most of the time I stick just to Acer Pseudoplatanus for this stove, so I must try and remember to try a different wood type next time.
I like the way you loaded the stove up. Another video i watched just sorta chucked in some kindling which had me wondering how long the flame would last on a single load and how efficiently it would cook. So the video answere both, thanks!
My Tomshoo stove is on the way I'll be solely useing blackthorn hardwood litte to no smoke so many use the wrong softwood then they complain about not getting enough burn time etc they haven't a clue on the right trees to get hardwood from fair play i know this is an old video but its really annoying to see countless vids now on these types of gasification stoves used so improperly you nailed it on how to fill em up and use properly well done 🔥💯👍
Thanks I wasn't expecting a reply after all these yrs really appreciated their people still getting it wrong to this day 😅 I'm done with there Vids if you're still making content I'll subscribe love the dog I was never without one since I was a kid I have a GS now great company as I previously stated your the first of countless Vids I watched that got the set-up right 💯☘️👍
I pack the oven the same way, but I have to ways to start the fire. One way is the top fire method like the video. Another way if I know I have really dry wood is to not fill the chamber senter completely, and start the fire at the bottom senter with a firestarter ( a homemade fabric with wax melted in). I think the fire last a bit longer and the fire start like the swedish tourch fire, and the heat dont get so crazy hot in the start.
Im looking to get one of these types as I noticed that the wood gasses can burn making a hotter flame, perfect. Love how you bring your puppy into the vid, beautiful girl.... Thanks for the vid
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Nice. Thank you for loading it properly, most do not! The top down burn is how gasification stoves like these work. Have the same one, and have been very happy with it (although supplemented by a small lixada gas stove as well). You've got my sub, cheers from Canada. 👍
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You can make these even a bit more efficient by wrapping the outside with a high temp insulator of some kind, as well as with some crinkled up (but reflattened mostly), heavy duty aluminum foil (with shiny side facing towards the inside). What this will do is speed up the gasification process and keep the internal temps hotter for longer, so that it will burn more clean and efficiently for longer. Obviously don't block the bottom air intake holes, but the rest of it should be covered. Another tip/trick is to get a small piece of heavy duty aluminum foil, crinkle it up (but mostly re-flatten it), and set the stove on top of the shiny side. This will do two things, it will somewhat protect the ground from getting scorched, and it will direct the IR radiating downwards, upwards. IR acts differently than convection energy exchange, which via a gas, tends to rise upward (actually, that is not quite accurate, and a major simplification of the process, but it will have to do for now), but IR is a type of light, and thus more wave like, that like a lightbulb giving off light, tends to radiate out in all directions (unless focused/reflected), including downwards. Reflecting the IR going down, to go up, also will speed up the gasification process etc. And if you're using the stove to cook, it will help to speed up the cooking a bit. (Even better, cooking wise, would be to form the Al foil into a more parabolic shape).
This is very interesting actually. I used one of these for the first time recently and whilst it was very good for cooking up some noodles and a coffee, I was basically "feeding" it as I went. This resulted in the heat output yoyoing and it even almost went out at one point because of a sort of "flameout" situation. Next time I will try it your way and just load it up, light it, and burn all the way through.
We purchased one of the "clone" stoves a few months ago to test. Our "new improved" model came with a small round grill w/ folding handle, a large bottom tray to catch ashes that fall through the holes in the burn chamber and a small tray intended for use with liquid alcohol, gelled alcohol and solid fuel tabs. Depending on how you configure the stove parts, any of the above mentioned fuels may be used as well as cans of chafing dish / gelled alcohol fuel. There is no need to carry a separate wind screen as the stove casing performs that job. For us, this is a true multi-fuel stove. If you are in " stealth mode" and desire a quick cup, burning alcohol has zero smoke signature, then you can pack & run quickly. When there is more time, nature provides all the FREE fuel a person could ever use. BTW, when wood is burned efficiently, there are actually LESS emissions produced than if that same wood was left to rot on the ground producing methane gas. Great and informative video man, you now have a new subscriber.
I'm glad you're having a similar positive experience with this type of stove. My stove also has one of those shallow dishes that you mention for gel type fuel, I've just never got round to using it.
@@TheBushcraftPadawan I just bought one of these stoves today. Before purchasing I did some testing in the store together with the owner to see if it would also fit a Trangia spirit burner and possibly even a small gas burner and this stove then being used as a windshield. The spirit burner fits awsome but the gas burner did not unfortunately, at least not mine. So you could bring a Trangia burner with you instead of the shallow dish and it can also hold spirits so you wont need any additional bottle (assuming you're not out for long).
Thanks for video , I have similar stove on order so will be making full use of your advice . The Kelly Kettle Trekker has been my go to for bike packing this summer . Never having to worry about buying or carrying fuel has convinced me to convert to relying on wood exclusively . Thanks again , liked and subscribed .
Have the stove but can't use it right now. Ban on outdoor fires. Might I suggest adding some bread with all that butter? Kind of like doing a grilled cheese and then add the finished omelet. Some real nice greasy trail goodness. Cheers from Ontario Canada.
Hey Ian and thanks for dropping by, it's always good to see you. Good idea on the buttery bread scenario, although I'm not sure Willow would agree as it would deny her some buttery soil to consume 😉
No, there is a secondary combustion of the gases of the fuel. The extra oxygen added to the gasification of the wood is what makes it so hot. The air draw in through the sides of the combustion chamber actually cools the inner walls, not heats them up.
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This is a yes and a no. The air does get heated on its way from being drafted up from the bottom to exit out the top holes, but you can also say that it is cooling down the inner metal container somewhat too (via convection). The reason why it takes these awhile to work properly i.e. go through the secondary combustion, is precisely because the system needs to warm up to full hot temp before that will start to happen. In other words, both the metal and air need to get hot enough to ignite the volatiles, byproducts, etc that normally go up and out of the fire, primarily as "smoke".
@@justinw1765 Exactly. He's still partially right. It's not easy to ignite wood gas when it contains that much moisture coming straight out of the burning wood. The preheated air is the reason why the second combustion happened. This is why the wood gasifier stoves are so efficient. They capture heat that'd normally radiate to the sides and get wasted to heat up the input air to increase combustion efficiency.
Just had mine delivered today & glad I stumbled on your video of keeping it lit for longer. Definitely had to subscribe 👍 Super excited to try it out & Willow is such a cutie 😊
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it's not the hot air being ignited, it's the hot air igniting unburnt fuel ie smoke, that is what makes this type of stove so efficient and low smoke ( when used correctly as you are perfectly demonstrating )
you to my friend, love the videos. I have a similar stove but I find I have to insulate the ground underneath because it burns so hot that it leaves a near permanent scar in the soil, could even cause a slow burning ground fire in certain conditions. have you experienced any similar problems with yours ?
@@srgfinch i will put the fuel tray under ,if i don't i also have a small oven rack about 6 inches by 12 i place under which seems to do the trick also i have a ceramic tile i use some times also im trying diff errant methods and loving in more trick in the tool bag the better ,lol
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@@TheBushcraftPadawan Thanks Craig. I've just ordered it, so will let you know after I've given it a good test. Like most of us, I've got too many cooking systems from the two Crusaders to jetboils, twig stoves... but this looks like it can be a really good option to carry fulltime - use for wood, but also for a trangia/hexy tablets if needed. Hoping this is THE ONE :D
@@TheBushcraftPadawan what a bit of kit! Considering it’s low price the performance and efficiency of this thing is incredible. I was a bit stressed at the size but the fact that I can use it with wood, pellets or alcohol/solid fuel means it’s earned its place in my bag. Thanks for the recommendation!
Hi Craig. Great video & great advice... after watching this video, I now know where I've been going wrong with my stove (ahomi/tomshoo style with the wind breaker on top). Tried it out a few times and never got a great burn using twigs & sticks, but got a better burn using wood pellets (cats don't like it when I rob their new litter). Now i'm itching to go to my permission to try it out Keep the great advice coming as its always welcome (2 years in wild camping - wanna be bush crafter [ I use that term lightly :) ]
My stove arrives tomorrow. Much cheaper than any solo stove nonsense. I remember the military convention and on reflection I’d say you feed kids, animals, and the guys, in that order. Then when you sit down you can stay sat down for more than 2 minutes.
Hi Craig, Some day I may need to make or buy one of those stoves. Just don't have much of a need for one right now since most fires are banned here most of the time and I just haven't been getting out. Really nice looking place you are at there! I am jealous! Still stuck sheltering in place here... sigh... Stay safe, be well and all the best from California 💛
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It's good to see a video that actually gets the loading and lighting of this kind of wood gas stove right for a change! Yes, you can do a bottom up burn like most other videos show for just about every wood burning twig stove, but the fires burn down very fast, and you would be constantly feeding them, (and often choking them) with sticks. I have been using a Tomshoo wood gas stove (I chose it for the excellent ventilated pot stand) for close on four years, and where I can, I burn wood or wood pellets (I favour wood pellets just because they burn for so long.) When I cannot burn wood because of local restrictions, I still use the Tomshoo stove, but, I configure the fuel chamber to use my Trangia alcohol burner rather than wood. This works very well for me and I now always have the Trangia and fuel as a backup. Best video on how to use a wood gas stove on UA-cam! Thanks.
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Good point about always including an alcohol stove and fuel when primarily relying on a wood burner. There are too many times when dry or adequate fuel can’t be found, or it’s actively raining, forcing you under a tarp where a wood stove can’t be used. Add to those variables, an urgent need to break camp, or a hurry-up meal where you don’t have time to enjoy the satisfaction of using this lovely stove, require making the alcohol option a necessity.
Nice! I'm feeling really good about ordering this stove. It will replace my old and worn solo stove from 2011 that I was excited to get back then but this new one by OHUHU is better in every way. I've only seen one other video where its packed correctly and can burn a long while without adding more sticks.
Interesting note to those who are fire pit lads , talk to your forestry guy and show him your stove you may be able to use it since its a gassifier stove and doesn't throw off embers and has a small foot print and is easily controlled . Just a thought /Happy cooking etc .
Good idea! It certainly looks a lot less 'troublesome' than an open fire doesn't it? Please consider subscribing if you'd like to see more from my channel.
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Many of these stoves come with a small metal saucer that some reviewers call an alcohol burner. Others have ascribed it’s best use is as an ash pan , and place it under the fire pan to catch the ashes.The problem with this is that approximately 80% of the fire pan’s air flow can be blocked by this saucer. Actually, a base for the stove should be constructed to keep soft earth from being pushed up and blocking air flow into the base chamber. The constructed base should be approximately 1/8 th to 1/4 in larger than the diameter of the stove base, thus providing guaranteed air supply and serving as both an ash pan and protection from fire or scorching the surface supporting the stove. I have made several of these for my stoves using aluminum flashing. It’ll last forever!
And, after you removed the boiling water, toss in a handful of wood scraps from around the stove there, and grill a hamburg patty, eih? Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
Anyone else has the problem that the stove rattles in your backpack? Everytime I'm running I sound like a dancing cow😆. Doesnt matter how I put the stove together
Yeah, they can certainly be a pain to pack in such a way to minimise rattling. I try and pack the space out with any tinder I'm carrying/pick up along the way.
If you fill a very thin plastic bag with about 210-230gr of cat litter type wood pellets and drop it inside the body and take up the space, you can carry the whole shebang inside a 775ml MSR Seagull cook pot, the one with the clamped lid. If you didn’t get a material bag with the stove, just make a cloth one, or wrap it in a rag which can double up as a cleaning rag for the fire and pot as well as keeling the rattle down. A cleaning sponge or even your litter in the empty bag can help minimise the rattles on your way home, assuming you’ve burned up the wood pellets. Pre-weighing a ‘fill’ into a bag or bags gives you all you need for your planned trip out.
Thank you for the proper instructions for this stove... your video is much more informative. Just curious if you should have heated your water first then cooked the omelette when the stove was burning more hotly?
+Rebecca Dees I certainly cost have done, it's just my preference to eat first and then have a drink afterwards. Thanks for asking such great questions, don't forget to subscribe 👍
Interesting video I have been using the ohuhu for some time. I have a few points to make, in any fire the wood its self does not burn its the gasses from the pyrolised wood or material that burns, as the air flows in through the holes at the outside bottom due to heat in the fire box the wood gasses from the twigs is drawn down. through the fuel charge up the sides of the twin wall mixes with a larger amount of oxygen and burns very hot out of the top inside holes. this is what the gasification process is all about, in a normal fire the wood is heated it turns into combustable and none combustable gasses and when the self ignition point is reached it will burn with a nice yellow flame this can only happen if the oxygen content is roughly between 12 to 21 % 12 would be a smouldering fire 21 full on flame, so as the wood gasses are drawn down through the fuel charge they are mixed with the increased up draught of air and burn very efficiently out of the top holes. you dont get a double burn you get a more efficient burn of the fuel charge, allowing more combustable as opposed to none combustable gasses to flare off more easily. either way I love these stoves , I use them on wood pellets most of the time , and always have them in my pack.Just thought I would add a bit more info as I can not say enough good things about these stoves, every pack should have one.
What happens really is that the vents in the bottom and heated air in the double wall causes the gasses in the burning wood to be drawn down to the bottom of the stove and then up through the double wall, it's the gasses that are reignited at the top, not just heated air.
I've seen pretty much every video i found with a gasifier and this is one in hundred dozens that actually gets it right. Congratulations good sir, you have a brain!
Just tried it and he's bang on...I've been using mine wrong. Just got a 45min burn at mad hot flame by packing it full of 3 to 4 cm twigs laid in a tightly packed criss cross pattern up to the top of the air holes and let it from top. Completely counter Intuitive. Try it. Also got about 20 mins of embers that would have been good gor barbecue a burger of kebabs.
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Not quite right. The "air" isn't burning. The heat gasifies the volatile compounds within the wood and the air flow draws those superheated vapors up through the double wall and vents them out the burner holes where the furnace fire ignites them. Nice little ingenious device. :)
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Yes, you loaded it correctly for a mostly top down burn(more on this in a moment). But your burn description is a little confusing. Air doesn’t burn, this stove super heats air between the walls. That superheated air flowing out of the holes at the top more easily pushes the wood-gas above its auto ignition temperature and provides 02 to create the hot secondary burn. The wood-gas is released from the wood fuel by the heat from the primary combustion. Wood doesn’t really burn, heat releases gas that burns. The heat from that causes the wood to decay and break down which releases more gas… the stove body concentrates this heat and breaks the fuel down into ash and coals releasing gas in the process. the reason these burn better when loaded with wood chunks or pellet fuel and burnt top down, is that they appear to me to have too many primary air ports. Filling them full of fuel restricts primary air and allows even more heat to build with the secondary flame consuming most all the wood gas. Too much primary air creates too much up-flow, which reduces the time that the gasses get to mix with the secondary air to combust completely. This also causes them to roar thru the fuel if not packed full. Packing them full of fuel reduces primary flow. You can also do this by blocking some of the holes on the bottom of the burn chamber. Take a peak down inside a solo-stove. No holes and a much smaller primary air supply port into the bottom of the burn chamber. Good dog!
Hi Craig, good to see someone showing it the right way. I love my gasifier stove. After some mistakes in the beginning, I got it right and now it serves me well heating up my meals and my coffee. ATB André P.S. Your pidgin German sounds brilliant ! :-)
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Tested newly bought Ohuhu stove today using your twig loading tip. Worked great, thank you much, and had boiling water for 4 servings of freeze dried food in under 4 minutes. Just need more practice getting fire started: paper did not work, had no birch bark, used dripping candle instead. Will have to research small, light fire starters.
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I keep a Ohuhu stove for emergencies. I got wood chips to burn. Also I put in a small pair of hand loopers to quickly cut wood to length. I was looking for a video that shows the correct way of loading the stove just to be sure I was correct so I can go back and tell some other UA-camrs that they're doing it wrong.
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Do you use a similar stove to what I have featured in this video, if so what are your experiences? If you don't, what's your preferred stove setup for a day/overnight in the woods when an open fire isn't an option?
The Bushcraft Padawan great video. I’ve used the similar stove (Lixada) after I’d made a very similar wood gasification stove (from stainless cupboard canisters). The benefit of the Lixada stove is that it nests inside itself for transport (which my DYI stove won’t). I was surprised you were concerned about cook time. If I load either of my gasification stoves to capacity I’ll have up to 35 minutes cooking time (close to 50 minutes total burn time). As far as alternative stoves, if no open fires are allowed, I’ve got a propane canister ,a solar reflector and an alcohol stove. I prefer the alcohol stove due to its quietness and ease of use. I’ve also made an adapter that allows the alcohol stove to be used inside the Lixada stove. The most important bit with the alcohol stove is to keep the top of the stove about 30 to 40 mm below the cook pot bottom for best heat yield.
I noticed the bottom of your canteen cup was black from the fire. Are you able to clean that up if you wanted to? I don’t want to damage my issued gear :/
@@Bluesoccer23 I don't like my pots getting soot on it so use kaolin to coat the pots and pans. You can see it on my channel. I've made a video of the same. ATB, The Solo Hiker....
Thank you for doing this. I had all but given up on this stove because I couldnt keep a hot fire going long enough to boil water. Going to try this method for sure.
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Thank you for subbing to my channel, it's really appreciated. The pack in the background is a Karrimor SF 35l, however it has been modded to add some pouches on the rear.
I have had a OHUHU stove for a couple of years now, paid $19 for it, great little stove, others likeit have a better way to feed the wood into it without taking the pan off.
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I subscribed because of this video. It is very well done and very entertaining. Yet it was the promise of how to use it correctly that was the bait. Sure enough, I’ve been using too small fuel. And, I’ve been cooking on too thin pans. I’d dismissed my Canway two summers ago, your video has brought it back. Great job and thank you.
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Great video but the gas that is burning from the top holes is wood gas not the air its self, the air is required for the combustion obviously but what happens is the rising air draws the heat and wood gas down through the fire and up the side of the twin wall as the gas leaves the holes at the top its burnt by the flames and creates great heat hence the name gasification stove, on a side note they do work great I run mine on wood pellets it takes around 1 pound to fill it and burns for around 1 hour on that charge . i have seen many videos of people building the fire in the bottom and adding twigs etc completely wrong, i have tried cutting twigs and standing them up on end, that burns very well but the pellets are the way to go for sure.
+dave bloggs hi Dave thanks for dropping by and addimg some extra 'science' context to this video, much appreciated. I've never tried the wood pellets as I always preferr to use the natural materials that I find in the woods when I'm using it as opposed to carrying extra fuel in with me. I'm glad that you've found a setup that works for you 👍
@@TheBushcraftPadawan thanks for the reply, i too used to use just sticks and still do often but i have to say once you try pellets its tough to go back, they are made from what used to be a waste product and dumped. it creates a new market for that material , and a zip lock bag runs for well over an hour, a little harder to light than sticks for sure but once going the heat is amazing.
Great video Craig. Love my woodgas stove. Pleased you have got yours going correctly - if I remember a video from several years back you had problems :)
Brilliant!!! A most educational and enjoyable video on using this stove correctly. Just ordered this on Amazon because of your video. I also liked and subscribed to your channel. Honestly... The dog had a lot to do with us being captivated by this information. Thank you. We wish you and the pup good health and continued success. We'll be watching.
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I just got one of these gasifier stoves and was looking at how to get it going properly before I take it on my next wild camp. Very concise and informative video thanks mate. Gonna trial this in the garden and then pop it in my pack. Liked, subbed and set notifications on. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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Wood pellets some people say that they are extremely cheap source of fuel for woodgas stoves. One guy said that he purchased roughly around 40 pounds of wood pellets for around $6 dollars US a couple of years ago. One nice thing about them is that they’re always available and last for years in storage. Just fill up the woodgas stove to just below the woodgas burner holes. Ever thought about using something like dry dog food or miniature dog biscuits? A couple of years ago I saw a gallon sized container of miniature dog biscuits on sale in the states for only $5. That one gallon sized container could have filled up the whole woodgas stove several times over.
Hello, I realize that I'm a little late adding a comment, but just wanted to say that I have been using a very similar gasifier stove and the "Right" way to use it depends on what kind of pot , pan you are using. This method works very well for vast iron and to boil water quite quickly, but would not be suitable to use with titanium pots or pans unless you want to hold and hover it twelve inch's above the flames. So when I use my cast iron cookware I use the same method for sure but when I'm packing light and using titanium I generally boil my water first over the hot flames, then let the fire burn down to hot embers which is ideal for cooking with titanium. This way it's not too hot and I can control the heat by adding twigs as I need. Just my two cents worth..Great video though .
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you are the only guy that finally lit the thing right and cooked something with it... perfect... i made one out of two cans and have tested it on a couple of occasions. but i have never cooked something on that stove yet. i do have every confidence that it will work.. cool very cool J
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My experience with wood pellets are for large smokers, or pellet stoves for heating. Generally you would have as much as a 20kg bag to burn to start, then top up as you go along. A pellet stove would also have a blower, to move the heated air out. For boiling, certainly not efficient, but if you wanted to cook something slowly - like a stew or something, it might work just fine. I sell hundreds of big bags of it yearly, I'll try it on my own wee stove. Thanks.
Love mine , done eggs , hamburgers hotdogs , sausages , got the wee grill works , used my heavy cast iron frying pan on it also . Still got to make a cup of hoyt chocolate in a cup still , well be trying that in two to three days from now . Awesome vid . Thank you .
@@TheBushcraftPadawan Well I did get out for that first hot chocolate and also cooked steak a rare treat for me by the river with the Ohuhu . In another two weeks looking forward to bacon and eggs .Love your vids keep them coming . will have a hot chocolate for you to , cheers M8t
Does anyone use such a stove as a heat source rather than for cooking? I’m going to get one shortly, to help keep warm as I go wild camping in the autumn and winter, and wondered how effective it will be.
Great video Sir !! I just purchased one of these and was educating myself before it arrived. I'll definitely be sure to load it up proper beforehand on my first burn.
@@TheBushcraftPadawan I have subscribed. I've done 2 separate burns so far. One with esbit tablets and with wood. I've found that it gets a little tricky with the wood if there's a breeze but once it's caught on good it has no trouble at all. I'll have to break down my twigs smaller next time. Just to see how it fares. Btw How long does it take to cool from a wood burn ?I had to snuff it out quickly and didn't give it time to cool on its own..
These stoves are called gasafirer. You are wrong about that it is just air coming out of the upper inside holes. Let me explain the physics of this stove. First I ask you where the air comes from when the fire is first lit. From the top of the first burn. As the fire gets to burning it heats up the side a natural conviction happens between the double wall construction. Now this causes a vacuum at the bottom of the stove so air from the top of the stove lid pulled down along with the wood gas mixes with the air at the bottom an is pulled to the top and out of the inside holes where it ignites causing a second burn. Now to prove to yourself that wood produces a gas simple make charcoal in a small paint can with a tight fitting lid with a 1/8 to 3/16 inch hole in the center of the lid. Word of cauction if you use a paint can with any paint left in side set up wind to avoid breathing any of the fumes comeing out of the paint can. With a wood camp fire 30-40 percent of the wood gas escaped because the fire is not contained like in these stoves. Now as you watch the paint can while making the charcoal first you will see smoke coming out of the hole this is not a gas it is the wood drying out and only water vapors. The the smoke catches fire and the flame will probably be redish yellow because moisture is ssill mixed with the gas. As pressures in side the can increase the flame will turn blue an actually become aubible as it burns.. When the flame goes out and smoke comes out the hole the charcoal is done being in the fire. I have a small hole prepared alone side the fire set the lid side down in the hole an pack dirt around the can to keep oxygen from interning the hole and let ican cool for 30 minutes to an hour. Now you have charcoal ready for use. A note: punk wood charcoal will catch a flint and steel spark quite easily. Another way to be prepared for a need for fire.
This is the negativ thing about this kind of oven, and it works bad if you only have rather wet wood. But if you saw bigger dry chunks down to the right lenght before the trip (or make a good find along the trip), and then you can make kindling of the chunks. It goes against the filosophi of just gather twig at campsite, but to start a fire with wet wood are a pain in the butt.
Have you had any problem with it getting too hot beneath this stove? I have the same stove and have seen on several occasions a black Char Spot beneath the Stove. I have also had it burn a hole through a 1/4" piece of Plywood it was sitting on. I now tell people to just place the Stove on a flat Rock or a couple of Bricks so they don't accidently start a Forest Fire. Other than the heat problem this is a great piece of gear and I carry it as a Back Up to my Dinosaur Main Stove. (Svea 123R)
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I just purchased this stove on Amazon. Thank you for showing me how to use it properly. One question: if I set this stove on a wood picnic table, will the table catch fire?
I haven’t been looking especially for that, but I’ve never seen anyone using that type of stove wrong.. I have seen at least tens of people using it right though.
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there are several where they just bunch the twigs in and layer up like traditional set up, rather than stack upright making sure to keep material just under the secondary air holes. This method has slower burn time and more efficient use of material without having to refeed so often or in this case not at all.
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I'm out and about at the moment but when I get home I'll head over to your channel to see how the professionals do it.
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Many of us (most of us?) watch these videos first for entertainment and second for information. I am sure the creator knows that. Lighten up.
You sound fun 🙄
It’s nice to see that someone finally got it right. I can get 40-50 minutes of burn time doing it this way without ever adding additional fuel.
Thank you.👍
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I calculate not one in ten videos load the wood gas stoves properly as he has done here. “Finally”!
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Can’t keep a fire burning no matter how many times I try. I live in Bristol. Can someone be kind enough to come over here and teach me the proper way to lit it?
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It's nice to see someone who actually loads the stove correctly! I love my Ohuhu stove. Simple yet efficient way to cook while camping. Spoiler... try loading it with wood pellets. Works great as well.
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This is the best explanation on the use of a wood gas stove I have seen thus far.
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First the horse, then the man. (Cavalry saying) I was thinking of not using my similar stove anymore, till I saw your vid. I shall try it again now. Cheers
Thanks David, how are you getting on with your own version of this stove?
Because of your video (and the dog) I bought a OHUHU stove and have used it back packing multiple time. I absolutely love it. Fantastic posting, Bushcraft Padawan. Well Done. Thanks, so much
I'm really pleased to hear that you're getting on with the stove. Willow and I send our very best for future outdoor culinary delights!
I’ve just ordered one of these and was looking for reviews and how-to videos. This looks fantastic and the fact you have a Labrador and are a veteran made me subscribe too!
Thanks for the positive feedback and sub, I'll make sure that Willow is suitably rewarded! 😉
I just lost my dog, Zoey, to a brain tumor and have been trying to keep my mind busy. I'm going to get out more so I just got this stove and have been trying to learn how to use it, so I'm really excited to find this video. I wish I was a more outdoor person Zoey would have enjoyed that, but we move on. I loved seeing your dog in the video though made me happy and sad. Give them a big hug for me.
I'm so very, very sorry to read this news about Zoey and am glad that a brief glimpse of Willow brought you some happiness. I gave Willow a big hug from you as did my kids 🤗
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Perfect on the loading. So many people just stuff the fuel in haphazardly all the way to the top, blocking the air holes and then complain that it doesn't burn well 🤦♂️
A minor correction on the physics of the thing. The air does not combust. Air can't combust irrespective of how hot it gets coz it doesn't have the 3 elements in the fire triangle. What the double wall does do is create a chimney draft effect to "pump" air in through the air holes at the top. This then enables the volatile organics in the gas coming off of the wood to combust creating an efficient (more or less) smokeless fire. About 30% to 40% of a wood fire's chemical energy is in the VOCs which vaporise and rise as smoke in a normal fire. Gasifier stoves work to combust this which is what makes them such fantastic little bits of kit.
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This is the best review of this stove👍
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Nicely shown, the extra burn is called the secondary burn and is also the hottest portion of the total burn available from these types of wood burning stoves. Have one myself and also the std small Lixada box type. Love your vids by the way, always entertaining and informative.
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Nice demonstration, I’ve been using this stove for years. When I’m done and it has cooled I give it a proper wipe down and then load it up with twigs for the next trip. Since I sometimes use this while driving to remote work sites it’s nice to have it ready to go for coffee breaks enroute.
+Wildland Cantina Good idea on prepping it for the next burn, thanks for sharing 👍
Good idea prepping it for the next use.
I cannot believe that people need a video on this.
I think pretty much the same thing every day when I see gaming videos on UA-cam.
I also use it same way. My tip is that you should use hard wood. The stick width should be about an inch to an inch and a ¼, or an inch and a ½.
Hard wood burns hotter and lasts longer. I get a burn time of 3 to 5 minutes for gasification to start. About 12 minutes of a big flame. 5 mins of smaller flame followed by small flame for about 5 minutes. Then the hot coals give lingering usable simmering heat for about 15 mins. All in all, usable heat for about 35 to 45 mins. Enough time to cook a proper meal.
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I must admit that most of the time I stick just to Acer Pseudoplatanus for this stove, so I must try and remember to try a different wood type next time.
I like the way you loaded the stove up. Another video i watched just sorta chucked in some kindling which had me wondering how long the flame would last on a single load and how efficiently it would cook. So the video answere both, thanks!
My Tomshoo stove is on the way I'll be solely useing blackthorn hardwood litte to no smoke so many use the wrong softwood then they complain about not getting enough burn time etc they haven't a clue on the right trees to get hardwood from fair play i know this is an old video but its really annoying to see countless vids now on these types of gasification stoves used so improperly you nailed it on how to fill em up and use properly well done 🔥💯👍
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Thanks I wasn't expecting a reply after all these yrs really appreciated their people still getting it wrong to this day 😅 I'm done with there Vids if you're still making content I'll subscribe love the dog I was never without one since I was a kid I have a GS now great company as I previously stated your the first of countless Vids I watched that got the set-up right 💯☘️👍
I pack the oven the same way, but I have to ways to start the fire. One way is the top fire method like the video. Another way if I know I have really dry wood is to not fill the chamber senter completely, and start the fire at the bottom senter with a firestarter ( a homemade fabric with wax melted in). I think the fire last a bit longer and the fire start like the swedish tourch fire, and the heat dont get so crazy hot in the start.
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Im looking to get one of these types as I noticed that the wood gasses can burn making a hotter flame, perfect.
Love how you bring your puppy into the vid, beautiful girl....
Thanks for the vid
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Got mine today. Cannot wait to try it out.
That's really great to hear. Let me know how you get on with using it.
Nice. Thank you for loading it properly, most do not! The top down burn is how gasification stoves like these work. Have the same one, and have been very happy with it (although supplemented by a small lixada gas stove as well).
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You did do it right . I've had my Tomshoo for many years now and use it just like you use yours .. The Right Way
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You can make these even a bit more efficient by wrapping the outside with a high temp insulator of some kind, as well as with some crinkled up (but reflattened mostly), heavy duty aluminum foil (with shiny side facing towards the inside). What this will do is speed up the gasification process and keep the internal temps hotter for longer, so that it will burn more clean and efficiently for longer. Obviously don't block the bottom air intake holes, but the rest of it should be covered.
Another tip/trick is to get a small piece of heavy duty aluminum foil, crinkle it up (but mostly re-flatten it), and set the stove on top of the shiny side. This will do two things, it will somewhat protect the ground from getting scorched, and it will direct the IR radiating downwards, upwards. IR acts differently than convection energy exchange, which via a gas, tends to rise upward (actually, that is not quite accurate, and a major simplification of the process, but it will have to do for now), but IR is a type of light, and thus more wave like, that like a lightbulb giving off light, tends to radiate out in all directions (unless focused/reflected), including downwards. Reflecting the IR going down, to go up, also will speed up the gasification process etc. And if you're using the stove to cook, it will help to speed up the cooking a bit. (Even better, cooking wise, would be to form the Al foil into a more parabolic shape).
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Thank you for this insight. I will be looking in to that.
This is very interesting actually.
I used one of these for the first time recently and whilst it was very good for cooking up some noodles and a coffee, I was basically "feeding" it as I went.
This resulted in the heat output yoyoing and it even almost went out at one point because of a sort of "flameout" situation.
Next time I will try it your way and just load it up, light it, and burn all the way through.
I like how you season your cast iron pan.🇨🇦🤙
We purchased one of the "clone" stoves a few months ago to test. Our "new improved" model came with a small round grill w/ folding handle, a large bottom tray to catch ashes that fall through the holes in the burn chamber and a small tray intended for use with liquid alcohol, gelled alcohol and solid fuel tabs. Depending on how you configure the stove parts, any of the above mentioned fuels may be used as well as cans of chafing dish / gelled alcohol fuel. There is no need to carry a separate wind screen as the stove casing performs that job. For us, this is a true multi-fuel stove. If you are in " stealth mode" and desire a quick cup, burning alcohol has zero smoke signature, then you can pack & run quickly. When there is more time, nature provides all the FREE fuel a person could ever use. BTW, when wood is burned efficiently, there are actually LESS emissions produced than if that same wood was left to rot on the ground producing methane gas. Great and informative video man, you now have a new subscriber.
I'm glad you're having a similar positive experience with this type of stove. My stove also has one of those shallow dishes that you mention for gel type fuel, I've just never got round to using it.
@@TheBushcraftPadawan I just bought one of these stoves today. Before purchasing I did some testing in the store together with the owner to see if it would also fit a Trangia spirit burner and possibly even a small gas burner and this stove then being used as a windshield. The spirit burner fits awsome but the gas burner did not unfortunately, at least not mine. So you could bring a Trangia burner with you instead of the shallow dish and it can also hold spirits so you wont need any additional bottle (assuming you're not out for long).
Thanks for video , I have similar stove on order so will be making full use of your advice . The Kelly Kettle Trekker has been my go to for bike packing this summer . Never having to worry about buying or carrying fuel has convinced me to convert to relying on wood exclusively . Thanks again , liked and subscribed .
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Have the stove but can't use it right now. Ban on outdoor fires. Might I suggest adding some bread with all that butter? Kind of like doing a grilled cheese and then add the finished omelet. Some real nice greasy trail goodness. Cheers from Ontario Canada.
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Good idea on the buttery bread scenario, although I'm not sure Willow would agree as it would deny her some buttery soil to consume 😉
No, there is a secondary combustion of the gases of the fuel. The extra oxygen added to the gasification of the wood is what makes it so hot. The air draw in through the sides of the combustion chamber actually cools the inner walls, not heats them up.
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This is a yes and a no. The air does get heated on its way from being drafted up from the bottom to exit out the top holes, but you can also say that it is cooling down the inner metal container somewhat too (via convection).
The reason why it takes these awhile to work properly i.e. go through the secondary combustion, is precisely because the system needs to warm up to full hot temp before that will start to happen. In other words, both the metal and air need to get hot enough to ignite the volatiles, byproducts, etc that normally go up and out of the fire, primarily as "smoke".
@@justinw1765 Exactly. He's still partially right. It's not easy to ignite wood gas when it contains that much moisture coming straight out of the burning wood. The preheated air is the reason why the second combustion happened. This is why the wood gasifier stoves are so efficient. They capture heat that'd normally radiate to the sides and get wasted to heat up the input air to increase combustion efficiency.
Just had mine delivered today & glad I stumbled on your video of keeping it lit for longer. Definitely had to subscribe 👍 Super excited to try it out & Willow is such a cutie 😊
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I'm not sure, but I believe the double wall also reduces smoke output as well.
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The Ohuhu windshield would have been handy there, aih?
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It was quite manageable once I had a cooking pot / pan placed on top.
it's not the hot air being ignited, it's the hot air igniting unburnt fuel ie smoke, that is what makes this type of stove so efficient and low smoke ( when used correctly as you are perfectly demonstrating )
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you to my friend, love the videos. I have a similar stove but I find I have to insulate the ground underneath because it burns so hot that it leaves a near permanent scar in the soil, could even cause a slow burning ground fire in certain conditions.
have you experienced any similar problems with yours ?
@@srgfinch i will put the fuel tray under ,if i don't i also have a small oven rack about 6 inches by 12 i place under which seems to do the trick also i have a ceramic tile i use some times also im trying diff errant methods and loving in more trick in the tool bag the better ,lol
Love this - been considering one of these stoves and it's great to see how long a brn you can get. Impressive. Omlette looked good too!
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@@TheBushcraftPadawan Thanks Craig. I've just ordered it, so will let you know after I've given it a good test. Like most of us, I've got too many cooking systems from the two Crusaders to jetboils, twig stoves... but this looks like it can be a really good option to carry fulltime - use for wood, but also for a trangia/hexy tablets if needed. Hoping this is THE ONE :D
@@TheBushcraftPadawan what a bit of kit! Considering it’s low price the performance and efficiency of this thing is incredible. I was a bit stressed at the size but the fact that I can use it with wood, pellets or alcohol/solid fuel means it’s earned its place in my bag. Thanks for the recommendation!
Hi Craig.
Great video & great advice...
after watching this video, I now know where I've been going wrong with my stove (ahomi/tomshoo style with the wind breaker on top).
Tried it out a few times and never got a great burn using twigs & sticks, but got a better burn using wood pellets (cats don't like it when I rob their new litter). Now i'm itching to go to my permission to try it out
Keep the great advice coming as its always welcome (2 years in wild camping - wanna be bush crafter [ I use that term lightly :) ]
My stove arrives tomorrow. Much cheaper than any solo stove nonsense. I remember the military convention and on reflection I’d say you feed kids, animals, and the guys, in that order. Then when you sit down you can stay sat down for more than 2 minutes.
I hope you're having a good experience with your new stove. 🔥
Only thing that puts me off this its a bit big for one person. Looks very good though
It's actually quite a small stove, a fraction larger than a typical gas canister..
You must have tiny hand then?
Take back what I said now I've reserched this little and have bought one
And there you have it. The right way! 👍💯%
Hi Craig,
Some day I may need to make or buy one of those stoves. Just don't have much of a need for one right now since most fires are banned here most of the time and I just haven't been getting out.
Really nice looking place you are at there! I am jealous! Still stuck sheltering in place here... sigh...
Stay safe, be well and all the best from California 💛
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It's good to see a video that actually gets the loading and lighting of this kind of wood gas stove right for a change! Yes, you can do a bottom up burn like most other videos show for just about every wood burning twig stove, but the fires burn down very fast, and you would be constantly feeding them, (and often choking them) with sticks.
I have been using a Tomshoo wood gas stove (I chose it for the excellent ventilated pot stand) for close on four years, and where I can, I burn wood or wood pellets (I favour wood pellets just because they burn for so long.)
When I cannot burn wood because of local restrictions, I still use the Tomshoo stove, but, I configure the fuel chamber to use my Trangia alcohol burner rather than wood. This works very well for me and I now always have the Trangia and fuel as a backup.
Best video on how to use a wood gas stove on UA-cam! Thanks.
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@@TheBushcraftPadawan I did
Good point about always including an alcohol stove and fuel when primarily relying on a wood burner.
There are too many times when dry or adequate fuel can’t be found, or it’s actively raining, forcing you under a tarp where a wood stove can’t be used. Add to those variables, an urgent need to break camp, or a hurry-up meal where you don’t have time to enjoy the satisfaction of using this lovely stove, require making the alcohol option a necessity.
Nice! I'm feeling really good about ordering this stove. It will replace my old and worn solo stove from 2011 that I was excited to get back then but this new one by OHUHU is better in every way. I've only seen one other video where its packed correctly and can burn a long while without adding more sticks.
I'm glad to hear that you found this video useful. How did you get on with using your own version of this stove?
Interesting note to those who are fire pit lads , talk to your forestry guy and show him your stove you may be able to use it since its a gassifier stove and doesn't throw off embers and has a small foot print and is easily controlled . Just a thought /Happy cooking etc .
Good idea! It certainly looks a lot less 'troublesome' than an open fire doesn't it?
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Very interesting and thorough presentation! Already subscribed! Greetings from Greece!
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Great tutorial!
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Many of these stoves come with a small metal saucer that some reviewers call an alcohol burner. Others have ascribed it’s best use is as an ash pan , and place it under the fire pan to catch the ashes.The problem with this is that approximately 80% of the fire pan’s air flow can be blocked by this saucer.
Actually, a base for the stove should be constructed to keep soft earth from being pushed up and blocking air flow into the base chamber. The constructed base should be approximately 1/8 th to 1/4 in larger than the diameter of the stove base, thus providing guaranteed air supply and serving as both an ash pan and protection from fire or scorching the surface supporting the stove. I have made several of these for my stoves using aluminum flashing. It’ll last forever!
A extra concrete paver type stone would be perfect for this. Just so long as it’s larger in diameter then the stove base.
Small aluminum cookie sheet, the size that fits in a toaster over should do the trick
@@JasonWicklund good idea
And, after you removed the boiling water, toss in a handful of wood scraps from around the stove there, and grill a hamburg patty, eih?
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Sounds like a plan!
Anyone else has the problem that the stove rattles in your backpack? Everytime I'm running I sound like a dancing cow😆. Doesnt matter how I put the stove together
Yeah, they can certainly be a pain to pack in such a way to minimise rattling. I try and pack the space out with any tinder I'm carrying/pick up along the way.
Put some kind of thin fabric or papir between the parts, and make it a part of the kit. Have a no-name "tower stove" where this is a must.
If you fill a very thin plastic bag with about 210-230gr of cat litter type wood pellets and drop it inside the body and take up the space, you can carry the whole shebang inside a 775ml MSR Seagull cook pot, the one with the clamped lid. If you didn’t get a material bag with the stove, just make a cloth one, or wrap it in a rag which can double up as a cleaning rag for the fire and pot as well as keeling the rattle down. A cleaning sponge or even your litter in the empty bag can help minimise the rattles on your way home, assuming you’ve burned up the wood pellets. Pre-weighing a ‘fill’ into a bag or bags gives you all you need for your planned trip out.
Wrap each part in plastic stops the rattle
Thank you for the proper instructions for this stove... your video is much more informative. Just curious if you should have heated your water first then cooked the omelette when the stove was burning more hotly?
+Rebecca Dees I certainly cost have done, it's just my preference to eat first and then have a drink afterwards.
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I always chop some extra shorter twigs to just drop inside the stove later on if I need more time.
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Interesting video I have been using the ohuhu for some time. I have a few points to make, in any fire the wood its self does not burn its the gasses from the pyrolised wood or material that burns, as the air flows in through the holes at the outside bottom due to heat in the fire box the wood gasses from the twigs is drawn down. through the fuel charge up the sides of the twin wall mixes with a larger amount of oxygen and burns very hot out of the top inside holes. this is what the gasification process is all about, in a normal fire the wood is heated it turns into combustable and none combustable gasses and when the self ignition point is reached it will burn with a nice yellow flame this can only happen if the oxygen content is roughly between 12 to 21 % 12 would be a smouldering fire 21 full on flame, so as the wood gasses are drawn down through the fuel charge they are mixed with the increased up draught of air and burn very efficiently out of the top holes. you dont get a double burn you get a more efficient burn of the fuel charge, allowing more combustable as opposed to none combustable gasses to flare off more easily. either way I love these stoves , I use them on wood pellets most of the time , and always have them in my pack.Just thought I would add a bit more info as I can not say enough good things about these stoves, every pack should have one.
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What happens really is that the vents in the bottom and heated air in the double wall causes the gasses in the burning wood to be drawn down to the bottom of the stove and then up through the double wall, it's the gasses that are reignited at the top, not just heated air.
I've seen pretty much every video i found with a gasifier and this is one in hundred dozens that actually gets it right. Congratulations good sir, you have a brain!
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Just tried it and he's bang on...I've been using mine wrong. Just got a 45min burn at mad hot flame by packing it full of 3 to 4 cm twigs laid in a tightly packed criss cross pattern up to the top of the air holes and let it from top. Completely counter Intuitive. Try it. Also got about 20 mins of embers that would have been good gor barbecue a burger of kebabs.
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@@TheBushcraftPadawan done. Thank you
Not quite right. The "air" isn't burning. The heat gasifies the volatile compounds within the wood and the air flow draws those superheated vapors up through the double wall and vents them out the burner holes where the furnace fire ignites them. Nice little ingenious device. :)
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Yes, you loaded it correctly for a mostly top down burn(more on this in a moment). But your burn description is a little confusing. Air doesn’t burn, this stove super heats air between the walls. That superheated air flowing out of the holes at the top more easily pushes the wood-gas above its auto ignition temperature and provides 02 to create the hot secondary burn. The wood-gas is released from the wood fuel by the heat from the primary combustion. Wood doesn’t really burn, heat releases gas that burns. The heat from that causes the wood to decay and break down which releases more gas… the stove body concentrates this heat and breaks the fuel down into ash and coals releasing gas in the process. the reason these burn better when loaded with wood chunks or pellet fuel and burnt top down, is that they appear to me to have too many primary air ports. Filling them full of fuel restricts primary air and allows even more heat to build with the secondary flame consuming most all the wood gas. Too much primary air creates too much up-flow, which reduces the time that the gasses get to mix with the secondary air to combust completely. This also causes them to roar thru the fuel if not packed full. Packing them full of fuel reduces primary flow. You can also do this by blocking some of the holes on the bottom of the burn chamber. Take a peak down inside a solo-stove. No holes and a much smaller primary air supply port into the bottom of the burn chamber. Good dog!
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Hi Craig, good to see someone showing it the right way. I love my gasifier stove. After some mistakes in the beginning, I got it right and now it serves me well heating up my meals and my coffee. ATB André P.S. Your pidgin German sounds brilliant ! :-)
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Tested newly bought Ohuhu stove today using your twig loading tip. Worked great, thank you much, and had boiling water for 4 servings of freeze dried food in under 4 minutes. Just need more practice getting fire started: paper did not work, had no birch bark, used dripping candle instead. Will have to research small, light fire starters.
Sounds like you're off to a great start, well done 🔥👏
Great video. Looked into these stoves before but not realised their capabilities.
Thanks for sharing 🙏
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I keep a Ohuhu stove for emergencies. I got wood chips to burn. Also I put in a small pair of hand loopers to quickly cut wood to length. I was looking for a video that shows the correct way of loading the stove just to be sure I was correct so I can go back and tell some other UA-camrs that they're doing it wrong.
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Do you use a similar stove to what I have featured in this video, if so what are your experiences?
If you don't, what's your preferred stove setup for a day/overnight in the woods when an open fire isn't an option?
The Bushcraft Padawan great video. I’ve used the similar stove (Lixada) after I’d made a very similar wood gasification stove (from stainless cupboard canisters). The benefit of the Lixada stove is that it nests inside itself for transport (which my DYI stove won’t). I was surprised you were concerned about cook time. If I load either of my gasification stoves to capacity I’ll have up to 35 minutes cooking time (close to 50 minutes total burn time).
As far as alternative stoves, if no open fires are allowed, I’ve got a propane canister ,a solar reflector and an alcohol stove. I prefer the alcohol stove due to its quietness and ease of use. I’ve also made an adapter that allows the alcohol stove to be used inside the Lixada stove. The most important bit with the alcohol stove is to keep the top of the stove about 30 to 40 mm below the cook pot bottom for best heat yield.
I noticed the bottom of your canteen cup was black from the fire. Are you able to clean that up if you wanted to? I don’t want to damage my issued gear :/
@@Bluesoccer23 its just discolored bro, its fine
I use the exact same stove man lol, its by far my favorite one so far. And its way cheaper than most that are similar
@@Bluesoccer23 I don't like my pots getting soot on it so use kaolin to coat the pots and pans. You can see it on my channel. I've made a video of the same.
ATB,
The Solo Hiker....
Now i gotta go buy an iron pan to get me an omelette, oh maybe a tent,
I'm pretty sure you can get aeay with making an omelette on any old pan 😉
Thank you for doing this. I had all but given up on this stove because I couldnt keep a hot fire going long enough to boil water. Going to try this method for sure.
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Same
Where can I get this stove
If you Google "Ohuhu wood gas stove" you should find some outlets.
Thank you. Got one coming
I've always enjoyed bushcraft. Can't get out there enough. Old Indian told me nothing better than good fire and a smoke.
@@stevensmith7887 hope you enjoy using it as much as I do.
I love these stoves. Informative and clearly explained video , which is useful for those viewers who don't have English as a first laguage.
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Lets see some more cooking , yum
I'll see what I can rustle up.
@@TheBushcraftPadawan Sweet , Best from Canada
First video I’ve seen of someone actually filling the stove with a proper load of wood. Great job.
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Thank you. Next time please pour the butter. Into the fire. On the ground attracts insects and animals. Keep up the good work.
Thank you Brian
Nice video sir. Omelette looked excellent. I have a Lab bitch too, greedy guts.
Are you a veteran?
Thanks
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Hi! Just subbed to your channel! I was wondering what backpack is in the background. Looks interesting. Thanks!
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I have had a OHUHU stove for a couple of years now, paid $19 for it, great little stove, others likeit have a better way to feed the wood into it without taking the pan off.
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Great video, thanks for sharing your information. Also, beautiful dog and well behaved. Subbed.
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Top vid as always. Question, did you find out what was in the small canister in your £10 package??
I subscribed because of this video. It is very well done and very entertaining. Yet it was the promise of how to use it correctly that was the bait. Sure enough, I’ve been using too small fuel. And, I’ve been cooking on too thin pans. I’d dismissed my Canway two summers ago, your video has brought it back. Great job and thank you.
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Great video but the gas that is burning from the top holes is wood gas not the air its self, the air is required for the combustion obviously but what happens is the rising air draws the heat and wood gas down through the fire and up the side of the twin wall as the gas leaves the holes at the top its burnt by the flames and creates great heat hence the name gasification stove, on a side note they do work great I run mine on wood pellets it takes around 1 pound to fill it and burns for around 1 hour on that charge . i have seen many videos of people building the fire in the bottom and adding twigs etc completely wrong, i have tried cutting twigs and standing them up on end, that burns very well but the pellets are the way to go for sure.
+dave bloggs hi Dave thanks for dropping by and addimg some extra 'science' context to this video, much appreciated.
I've never tried the wood pellets as I always preferr to use the natural materials that I find in the woods when I'm using it as opposed to carrying extra fuel in with me.
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@@TheBushcraftPadawan thanks for the reply, i too used to use just sticks and still do often but i have to say once you try pellets its tough to go back, they are made from what used to be a waste product and dumped. it creates a new market for that material , and a zip lock bag runs for well over an hour, a little harder to light than sticks for sure but once going the heat is amazing.
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Legend!
Great video Craig. Love my woodgas stove. Pleased you have got yours going correctly - if I remember a video from several years back you had problems :)
That time I struggled was because I was trying to burn damp fir cones, lesson learned!!!
@@TheBushcraftPadawan Amd cottonwood is a pain I new better but lesson learned also ,lol
Thank you for this video. Well done! It appears to be a very nice stove.
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I have this stove. Had trouble keeping it burning. Your video helped for sure. Ok off to make a fire 🔥
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Have same stove nested in
MSR Alpine Stowaway Pot, 775 mL. Always in my pack. Thank you for the stove tips. Cheers.
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Brilliant!!! A most educational and enjoyable video on using this stove correctly. Just ordered this on Amazon because of your video. I also liked and subscribed to your channel. Honestly... The dog had a lot to do with us being captivated by this information. Thank you. We wish you and the pup good health and continued success. We'll be watching.
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I just got one of these gasifier stoves and was looking at how to get it going properly before I take it on my next wild camp. Very concise and informative video thanks mate. Gonna trial this in the garden and then pop it in my pack. Liked, subbed and set notifications on. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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Wood pellets some people say that they are extremely cheap source of fuel for woodgas stoves. One guy said that he purchased roughly around 40 pounds of wood pellets for around $6 dollars US a couple of years ago. One nice thing about them is that they’re always available and last for years in storage. Just fill up the woodgas stove to just below the woodgas burner holes. Ever thought about using something like dry dog food or miniature dog biscuits? A couple of years ago I saw a gallon sized container of miniature dog biscuits on sale in the states for only $5. That one gallon sized container could have filled up the whole woodgas stove several times over.
Cook something for the dog too
She usually ends up with a snack or two from my plate after eating or I take some of her own food out with us, she certainly doesn't go hungry! 😀
Hello, I realize that I'm a little late adding a comment, but just wanted to say that I have been using a very similar gasifier stove and the "Right" way to use it depends on what kind of pot , pan you are using. This method works very well for vast iron and to boil water quite quickly, but would not be suitable to use with titanium pots or pans unless you want to hold and hover it twelve inch's above the flames. So when I use my cast iron cookware I use the same method for sure but when I'm packing light and using titanium I generally boil my water first over the hot flames, then let the fire burn down to hot embers which is ideal for cooking with titanium. This way it's not too hot and I can control the heat by adding twigs as I need.
Just my two cents worth..Great video though .
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I have one of these stoves, it works really great with small stick. Thanks for sharing
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I like to use my scroll saw scrapes for burnining get about 40 mins.I want to use some wood pellets in the future up to a hour burn or so.
you are the only guy that finally lit the thing right and cooked something with it... perfect... i made one out of two cans and have tested it on a couple of occasions. but i have never cooked something on that stove yet. i do have every confidence that it will work.. cool very cool J
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Great video, bought a stabilotherm one on the back of this content.
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Yes most people overfilled these types of stoves and block the air vents.
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I was going to give you a down vote if you didn't give your pup a bite to eat.
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My experience with wood pellets are for large smokers, or pellet stoves for heating. Generally you would have as much as a 20kg bag to burn to start, then top up as you go along. A pellet stove would also have a blower, to move the heated air out.
For boiling, certainly not efficient, but if you wanted to cook something slowly - like a stew or something, it might work just fine.
I sell hundreds of big bags of it yearly, I'll try it on my own wee stove. Thanks.
Love mine , done eggs , hamburgers hotdogs , sausages , got the wee grill works , used my heavy cast iron frying pan on it also . Still got to make a cup of hoyt chocolate in a cup still , well be trying that in two to three days from now . Awesome vid . Thank you .
Let me know how you got on with the hot chocolate 😁
@@TheBushcraftPadawan Well I did get out for that first hot chocolate and also cooked steak a rare treat for me by the river with the Ohuhu . In another two weeks looking forward to bacon and eggs .Love your vids keep them coming . will have a hot chocolate for you to , cheers M8t
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Legend has it this old chap still has his stove burning on that first load of fuel.
Indeed he does 👴
Does anyone use such a stove as a heat source rather than for cooking? I’m going to get one shortly, to help keep warm as I go wild camping in the autumn and winter, and wondered how effective it will be.
Great video Sir !! I just purchased one of these and was educating myself before it arrived. I'll definitely be sure to load it up proper beforehand on my first burn.
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@@TheBushcraftPadawan I have subscribed. I've done 2 separate burns so far. One with esbit tablets and with wood. I've found that it gets a little tricky with the wood if there's a breeze but once it's caught on good it has no trouble at all. I'll have to break down my twigs smaller next time. Just to see how it fares. Btw How long does it take to cool from a wood burn ?I had to snuff it out quickly and didn't give it time to cool on its own..
These stoves are called gasafirer. You are wrong about that it is just air coming out of the upper inside holes. Let me explain the physics of this stove. First I ask you where the air comes from when the fire is first lit. From the top of the first burn. As the fire gets to burning it heats up the side a natural conviction happens between the double wall construction. Now this causes a vacuum at the bottom of the stove so air from the top of the stove lid pulled down along with the wood gas mixes with the air at the bottom an is pulled to the top and out of the inside holes where it ignites causing a second burn. Now to prove to yourself that wood produces a gas simple make charcoal in a small paint can with a tight fitting lid with a 1/8 to 3/16 inch hole in the center of the lid. Word of cauction if you use a paint can with any paint left in side set up wind to avoid breathing any of the fumes comeing out of the paint can. With a wood camp fire 30-40 percent of the wood gas escaped because the fire is not contained like in these stoves. Now as you watch the paint can while making the charcoal first you will see smoke coming out of the hole this is not a gas it is the wood drying out and only water vapors. The the smoke catches fire and the flame will probably be redish yellow because moisture is ssill mixed with the gas. As pressures in side the can increase the flame will turn blue an actually become aubible as it burns.. When the flame goes out and smoke comes out the hole the charcoal is done being in the fire. I have a small hole prepared alone side the fire set the lid side down in the hole an pack dirt around the can to keep oxygen from interning the hole and let ican cool for 30 minutes to an hour. Now you have
charcoal ready for use. A note: punk wood charcoal will catch a flint and steel spark quite easily. Another way to be prepared for a need for fire.
What's your preferred method to cut that sapling to tiny pieces in 90 seconds? That'd take me a long time.
Probably video editing 😉
@@TheBushcraftPadawan I figured that much, but I'd have liked to have seen the process :)
This is the negativ thing about this kind of oven, and it works bad if you only have rather wet wood. But if you saw bigger dry chunks down to the right lenght before the trip (or make a good find along the trip), and then you can make kindling of the chunks. It goes against the filosophi of just gather twig at campsite, but to start a fire with wet wood are a pain in the butt.
Have you had any problem with it getting too hot beneath this stove? I have the same stove and have seen on several occasions a black Char Spot beneath the Stove. I have also had it burn a hole through a 1/4" piece of Plywood it was sitting on. I now tell people to just place the Stove on a flat Rock or a couple of Bricks so they don't accidently start a Forest Fire.
Other than the heat problem this is a great piece of gear and I carry it as a Back Up to my Dinosaur Main Stove. (Svea 123R)
Hi Ed, thanks for dropping by and sharing your own experience with this stove.
I must admit that I haven't had the same experience as you describe, the only residue I have experienced after using the stove is a pile of very fine ash that is easily scattered afterwards.
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Like you said: it's a Labrador. These dogs are all-purpose burners 😂😂
Never a truer word spoken!
Right? They will clean up every sh*t if its from horse or cat or whatever they don't mind 🤢 😂😅 @@TheBushcraftPadawan
I just purchased this stove on Amazon. Thank you for showing me how to use it properly. One question: if I set this stove on a wood picnic table, will the table catch fire?
No, but it will scorch the wood.
I haven’t been looking especially for that, but I’ve never seen anyone using that type of stove wrong.. I have seen at least tens of people using it right though.
Then YT must be serving you up better content than it does for me 😉.
As I said in the intro, "most UA-cam videos" (not 'all').
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Theres a mix of vids out there and a few want to make me cry but there cooking and learning thats the main thing and getting out
there are several where they just bunch the twigs in and layer up like traditional set up, rather than stack upright making sure to keep material just under the secondary air holes. This method has slower burn time and more efficient use of material without having to refeed so often or in this case not at all.
Finally someone who use this stove the right way. The video is 3 years old, I am interested on how this stove holds up, do you still use it?