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Is there every going to any scope for someone doing the same with motorcycle tyres? I love the depth and consistency to which you test and I can’t find anyone who tests as many bike tyres in as much detail as you do for cars
@@conanobrien1 im pretty sure he did include a sava a few years back. not sure if that was the same model tho. you cna always look it up on the website to get a rough idea however.
Scusami hai mai provato a cambiare pressione gomme per diminuire sottosterzo o sovrasterzo? Dato che sul SIDEWALL esistono ruote con : 1 polypropilene 2 poly, 2 rayon , come fai a trovare la corretta pressione ? Ciaooooo
@@tyrereviews Hi, need help, is Goodyear EfficientGrip2 Touring or ECO tyre, if it is touring, what is Gooyear eco tyre, like Michelinh Energysaver and Primacy? Help me to understand what category are what? GOODYEAR, MICHELINH, BRIDGESTON?
Excellent test,kudos to the team. Keep up the good work,you have no competition. After following tire tests in car magazines (Auto,motor und sport, Auto zeitung, ADAC tests)for 45 years you are the only ones on the internet that do this job very proffesionaly and to the highest of standards. I know it costs a lot of money and expertize to do those tests but you are doing an important public service and crushing it. Thank you!
Very good review and I agree. I drive a Jeep and experienced Bridgestone and Continental. Both very good. Excelent on all tracks even on German Autobahn and on wet surface. I also drove with high speed on a screw/spike. I heared a bang, It did not loose air pressure. Later I saw the screw/spike in it. My local garage repaired the tire within 10 minutes! Thanks again.
I always enjoy reviews on this channel. It is the top1 goto! I think that the double coin dc99 is very good, when you plan to build a tire swing for your kids in the garden. 15m more stopping distance is unbelievable.
It is incredible to think about when the top 6 tyres can only be seperated by around 1 metre. As it happens I'm getting a pair of P7C2 Pirellis on Sunday for my front wheels so good to see them do so well.
I’ve always run budget tires on my car, but this time round it was time to change all 4 and I went with a premium tire (Goodyear eagle f1 asymmetric 6) and I will not lie, it is actually unbelievable the amount of difference it makes, even in sub 2 degrees C, the car feels like it has unlimited grip, it is much more comfortable and tire noise is reduce massively. I don’t think I’ll ever put budget tires on my car ever again. Rip my wallet but definitely the best thing you can do to your car.
@@spookyreaper1702 i think they wear the same as any tyres you run, i think performance tyres tend to wear faster because for me personally, i am able to take corners at much faster speeds so with time this will cause faster wear, and also because the compound is different and allows more grip, i think the general rule is the more grip you have the faster tyres wear. however the differences in wear between performace road tires and budget tyres is minimal and shouldnt really be the reason youre put off buying more expensive performance tyres. at the end of the day it comes down to your driving style, you can easily wear out non performance tires quicker than performance ones depending on how you drive (accelration speed and corner speed etc). for me personally theyre wearing at a "normal" rate so i wouldnt be put off buying them again.
@@B2KJFF good answer I’m on ps5s rn and I was thinking of the Goodyears because they’re a bit cheaper. Just been scared they’re gonna wear out fast. The ps5s feel really dull but grip really well
@@spookyreaper1702 ive driven on both ps5s and goodyear a6s, id say grip is very similar, the only reason youd pay 200 more for the michelins is honestly because they look nicer and that really isnt worth 200 to me personally
As always, great content on tires that is second to none. I appreciate the acknowledgment on EVs and the verbal blurb on which one would probably be best for electrics.
I bought a set of 4 Pirelli Cinturato p7 all season plus 2s last summer and I have been thoroughly impressed with them. They are my first Pirelli tires I've owned. I had the Michelin Primacy MXV4 previously and the ride quality and sound level is a huge step up superior to the Michelins. I'm not saying that the Michelins are not a good tire but the Pirellis are better on my car.
I've just purchesed the Pirelli's and I adore them. Couldn't have picked them without your amazing and in depth reviews, keep up the amazing work mister!
How are the Pirelli's holding up? I have heard some stories about these tyres having difficulties balancing out/going out of shape, but i have no experience with this brand
It could be really awesome if you included the current best all season tire in your summer/winter tire tests, just to see how much worse/better off we would be with an all-season.
@Tyre Reviews really? I might remember wrong, but I just think I saw to similar sized ones where the standard had lower weight rating than the SUV - so I thought that maybe one had another construction than the other. Also being in Europe I know I won't get to 60.000miles with one pair, but it could be interesting to see a test comparing the American vs eu cc2 :D
I'm excited to see the Premium Contact 7 in a High Performance comparison soon! I hope it still kept its sportiness compared to the Premium Contact 6. I really like the steering response and would prefer this sharper turn in over a Pilot Sport 4. I also think it's interesting how Continental offers one tire to compete both in the touring and the high performance category.
@@tyrereviews that would be perfect! I would love 225/40/r18. Do you have an estimated time frame on this test? I think I will be due for new summer tires in may or april. I guess the premium contact 7 will be a good sporty choice regardless. Do you have any comment on when you would choose the sport contact over the premium contact?
@@emmamitchell1582 I'll be testing in May so sometime around then! I'd pick the Sportcontact when you want something a bit more ... sporty :) There will be lots of tests on www.tyrereviews.com before may in your size, keep an eye on the site.
@@tyrereviews thanks! I would love to see the Sportcontact and Premiumcontact together in a test sometime! I find it pretty hard to compare across categories, as they are usually tested separately. I'm interest in how much wear and comfort I would give up going with the sportcontact. And then obviously how much feel and performance I would gain. Thanks for all your work btw!
@@emmamitchell1582 I have the PC6 under my MX5 and UP GTI now, and it's such a fine tire. I always go for the tire with best 'subjective' handling together with best wet performance. This Conti does it all My tire supplier said he prefers the PC over the SC because it's just better for allround daily driving.
Just fitted a set of four Pirelli P7 Cints run flats to my BMW 4 series Grand Coupe on 255/50/17's. They have transformed the ride, handling and noise level. It previosly had Dunlop Sports on the rear and two odd cheap tyres fitted by the previous owner on the front. You only get what you pay for.
Thanks for this review, your analysis was absolutely spot on. I picked up 4 new the continental contact sport 7 tyres. They grip so well in the wet and dry surface giving you a confidence level of a 1000%. My car is a C43 Amg with these tyres Iam currently getting a 0-60 time of 3.9/4 seconds, with my old Pirelli P Zero tyres It was doing around 4.2/4.3 seconds 0-60. It's definitely an upgrade
My car had Bridgestone winter tires (245/40/17 Blizzak was on back and another 1 pair of 225/45/17 Bridgestone on front axe.) They were extremely loud, slipped on wet road like I'm driving on ice, also smelt very bad on +10 degrees. Then replaced all 4 by Pirelli Powergy (225/45/17 on front and 245/40/17 on back). The car became extremely quiet, on wet roads almost nearly 0 slippage, on dry roads it's perfect and no disgusting smell..
I've just got a set of Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance 2's fitted today, they still have to properly set but an amazing tyre. Low noise, comfortable and great steering, although not properly tested for grip yet
You made me buy a set of PremiumContact 6. You made me buy a set of WinterContact TS 860. Then you made me buy a set of WinterContact TS 870. Now you made me buy a set of PremiumContact 7 (will fit them this spring)! So happy they improved the wet grip. Every set of Continentals that I had has been outstanding! Thank you for another amazing video and for helping me keep my family safe over the years!
I absolutely LOVE and appreciate your tire reviews and comparisons. By far the best, most complete, and most helpful reviews there are out on the web. As someone while lives in the United States, my only suggestion (request) would be to better identify what tires are designed (sold in/made for) the North American market vs. the European market. I know you do some of the time but tests like this I could tell that none of them are available in North America (only because it's my job as a service manager at an independent repair shop). That would be swell if you could somehow identify the market these are for. Other than that keep up the amazing work! Thank you
@@tyrereviews You could voiceover or list this info on your website so people could check it there ? Don't think ZoomZoom81 suggested a "US vs EU tyres" title but a bit more info on which models US customers could actually purchase.
I don’t think anyone would go for cheap tyres if they had the money to buy them. Over 80% of my customers could only afford budget tyres unfortunately.
@@Thetyrerepairer BS. Tyres are the mos timportant part of the car. If they can aford to own the car (fuel, insurance, maintenence,...) they *can* very much afford premium tyres. It is just that people are so uninformed and think that the tyres are the least important and just buy the cheapest. If sellers would educate them more about tyres, it would be different. But sellers are more interested in pushing those tyres that make them the most profit (the biggest factory price to resale price difference). Just like with any other car parts.
@@DashCamSerbia exactly! The problem isn’t affordability cause anyone can spend a bit more on a premium quality tyre. It’s very little education in safety when you own a car. A low quality tyre can kill you in many occasions cause they got horrible brake distances, aquaplaning problems etc
Thanks for this outstanding set of tests, as usual. It's great that you include the individual scores - for me, driving on UK roads and having experienced it years ago, preventing aquaplaning is absolutely crucial. Pleased to see the Falken tyres performed very well in this regard, as I tend to get these fitted on my cars (most recently as RFTs for my 3 series).
Having used all sorts of brands of tyres over the last 50+ years of driving, I have now settled on using Goodyear. Compared to all the other premium tyres available Goodyear seem to produce tyres in all their ranges that are so predictable and confidence inspiring to the point where another tyre, say a P7, can offer better grip but the A to B times are better with the Goodyear because I have the confidence that I know what they will do in every situation so I don't have to back off. The vast majority of car owners fit one set (or God forbid individual tyres) every say 40k mls or so and therefore they are committed to 5(?) years of motoring on solely that tyre brand. Unfortunately, many owners haven't got a clue when it comes to selecting tyres and listen to the BS from the fitter, who isn't qualified to give that advice, at the tyre shop as to what to fit that will be totally governed by either his stock levels or which tyres he can make most profit on. IMO wet grip, dry grip, noise, etc, pale into insignificance if you are not confident in the ability of your tyres. Never buy cheap tyres, its a false economy and they will under perform, leave those to the used car sales man to fit to his stock to gullible punters.
Very thorough review as always. I bought Conti Premium Contacts (an earlier incarnation) several years back on your recommendation and have been very happy with them. Have been through a couple of sets and will definitely choose them again next time I need tyres. The only slight downside is that they can be a little noisy, as you point out, but apart from that, they're excellent. Last well and keenly priced, too. Thanks for your advice.
You’re a legend mate. Thanks for the excellent work as always. Test idea: What about a comparison between bugdet/mid-range winter tyres against budget/premium all-season tyres? I do not know if this is the same for all of Europe at least, but in Romania you can often find premium all-season tyres at mid-range winter tyres price, and I am left wondering which one would actually perform better or at least be better value if the differences are significant.
@@hercegovac9999 Romanians are not really interested in tyres so I wouldn’t say popular, but I ve seen them on a few cars. They are pretty good value too.
Decided on the Bridgestone Turanza T005 because of this video. It's for a Toyota Mirai and with hydrogen prices currently a ridiculous $27/kg I needed the least rolling resistance possible. They were also have the price of the Michelin Primacy tires I was considering.
Yes - The front tyres "feathered" very quickly (Peugeot 308 is front wheel drive). mechanic suggested increasing tyre pressure which I did (40psi all round). On rougher surfaces the tyres gave a very harsh drive (tyre pressures ??) They gave good handling for the first 20,000kms then it deteriorated very quickly. I spoke to my mechanic who specialises in European cars and he indicated that my experience was not unusual. I read all the European reviews and the Continentals get excellent reviews, hence my comment that maybe our road conditions (heat) affected the Continentals. I changed to Pirellis (same as those tested here) on the mechanics advice and they were far superior. The only negative about the Pirellis is that they do have a bit of road noise, but that didn't worry me. Please note that my comments are about a particular car using Continentals and my experience was in Australia in fairly hot conditions. I also drive hard and fast.@@dominozonda
I think your reviews are great and whilst I can afford to buy expensive tyres there are many families out there at the moment who are really struggling. So they do not have much choice when it comes to buying tyres for their car. How about doing a really worthwhile test on budget tyres for families who just drive at normal speeds in all weathers, this would be doing a great service for thousands of families. Just a thought!
Lately I bought Pirelli P7 C2, using it since 6 months its really best value tyre. My pervious tyres was continental premium cont. 5 which was excellent in performance but was too rigid to my car (Honda civic) and have unsolvable balance vibration issue on average and high speeds, plus the significant price difference compared with the Pirelli
In general, how large are the compromises made by selecting a Grand Touring All Season tire over a Grand Touring Summer tire? For example - if I’m not concerned with snow traction because I live in a mild climate, but my priorities are quite, comfort and hydroplaning resistance - should I expect that a summer tire will excel in those areas over the top contenders from the Grand Touring All Season category? I often find it difficult to appreciate the properties of a tire within its own class without contrast to tires of another category.
In my opinion, it comes down to rubber rigidity. The softer, the more grip. But it wears faster and usually costs more up front. I prefer a somewhat more balanced rubber/tread for more flexibility. Especially if it keeps me from buying separate winter tires.
Fantastic testing! I'd love to see how the budget USA UniRoyal Tiger Paw, the well-rated economy Maaxis, and the venerable BF Goodrich tires perform. Thanks!!
Goodyear F1 Eagle Asymetric 5 on my BMW e90 feel like I am driving on train tracks. Wet, dry, turns, breaking no matter the condition, they are always there and reliable as hell. Best tyre I have ever driven.
Looking forward to the budget test. Always a 'fun' category. Interesting to see your perspective of the NA1. I found it decent in the dry but pretty poor on the wet. It would just start to understeer with zero feedback, eerie.
well, I'd rather have a bit less grippy tire than a noisy one. Would not give Continental the win since noise is something you have to deal with every day.
Go with the Pirelli Cintuarto P7C2 it doesn't win overall on grip but its still excellent but the noise and comfort of the tyre are also exceptional, its really the jack of all trades and you make little compromise on anything. Exceptional all round tyre for a daily driver. I have them fitted to my Toyota Auris 1.2T and they're exceptional.
@@gravemind6536 I'm planning them on my Alfa Romeo Giulietta. I'm running on Turanza T005, which grip wise are fine but cabin noise and comfort are really bad. That's why I much prefer giving up the absolute performance and trade it for a good compromise between safety and comfort. I was thinking about those Pirelli, Dunlop Blueresponse or Continental ultra contact. Thank you for your suggestion.
Tigar is shit, I bought my car 1,5 years ago and the seller gave me a set of winter tires, which were of that brand, the car was slipping much more than I’d like it to
I recently put 4 Pirelli 'powerge' tyres on my 2013 Nissan cube. Very noticeablely smoother ride with less tyre generated road noise. Not the cheapest tyres, but l appreciate them each time l drive it.
I have the Pirelli P7C2 in the size tested on this video for my 2016 Toyota Auris 1.2T brilliant all round tyre, great handling, good straight line traction and good on fuel and brilliant on tyre noise.
Great review as always. Looking forward to see comparison of Conti PC7 with Michellin PS 5 and Goodyear EA 6 as I am going to buy new set this year and looking for best noise/comfort from those 3 🙂
What did you choose? I'm looking at exactly the same tyres, it's not easy to decide which one to buy. They all seem like good choices, but I'm currently most tempted to buy the EF1A6.
Bought the Bridgestones EG P2 based on your tests and reviews. Thank you. Reasonably priced tyre. Halfords currently has 10% discount on Bridgestones if you buy 4.
Thanks so much for all of the effort you put in. You are truly the Gold standard when it comes to tire tests. I have a set of Continental VikingContact7’s on my Corolla and they’re great. I want to replace loud summer Firestone FT140’s with the quietest tire money can buy as the car is loud.. but I’m finding 15” is becoming a more limited size than it used to be, excluding me from the best. I wish I could put the new contis on but oh well I guess
Great presentations, love the content. Could you test smaller sizes which would suit 13 or 14 inches diameter wheels. Thinking of the Aygo, Fiesta size cars. I have an older,and rarer car a Daihatsu Sirion 1.5 SX Auto which is great to drive and does 52 mpg and free in the ulez zones surprisingly. I have the Goodyear Vector 4 Season Gen 3 tyres fitted which are a fantastic tyre on this car. Regards David Evans
Tyre options are getting narrower and availiability lower on anything with less than 15 inch wheels in todays world the prices are also insane. 205/55R16 are the best tyres for affordability and range.
It might be interesting to plot the groove depth and weight against dry handling. 7.3 mm against 8.6 mm is quite a difference (block stiffness, temperature) and the weight might actully correlate not only groove depth but also construction (stiffness, belt arrangement).
@@tyrereviewsthank you from USA (Florida) I’m still trying to figure out which one for my 2013 Mazda 3 I’m between Bridgestone Michelin or Continental I don’t know which? What is your opinion or thoughts by the way I don’t travel far and if I do is up to Tampa but sometimes I like to speed but no more that 65 I can seen to make up my mind🤷♀️
@@tmartinez1948 Sadly I'm not sure you'll have many of these in the USA. If it's no winter running at all, there's some good summer US specific products, but generally I'd imagine for your driving a US all season tyre would be the best choice as you'll get a much longer tread warranty from it.
@@tmartinez1948 TBH they're all fine tires. Michelin/Conti followed by Bridgestone, in my opinion. Get the most expensive one you are willing to pay for. Personally, safety is my number 1 concern, so Michelin or Continental. If you're getting Michelins, you can choose from the Pilot Sport All-Season 4 (if they make it in your size, that is), the CrossClimate 2 or Defender 2, but again, only spend what you feel comfortable spending. Good luck and let us know what you end up getting and whether you'd get them again.
I was just thinking, the Nankang would be a neat choice for a low powered car on a track day, to practice dealing with wild and woolly handling events. reminds me of some of the early reviews of the GT86 car, with it horrid stock tires that let you drift around at 15mph or something.
I work in the tyre industry so always look forward to your videos, this video specifically is very helpful as this is an area we sell a lot of tyres in. About your budget test I'm looking forward to it and I'm just hoping u managed to get hold of the triangle th202 as since hearing about it a few weeks ago it peaked my curiosity with its 'A rating in the wet'.. quite interested to see how it does in testing, good or bad
Can you please make comparison review between Bridgestone Turanza T005 vs Michelin Energy XM2+ vs Continental CC7? In terms of low noise, comfort, and durability, which one will you recommend? I'm currently looking for replacement for my old tyre (current use Michelin Energy XM2 for 4 years and 9 months with nearly 96.000 KM run). Thank you for any advice
I've just went and bought the michelin primacy 4+ in 225/45 R18 configuration for my BMW 225xe plug-in hybrid. It seems a good all around summer tire for our needs. Thank you for your review
Hey John, great video as always I was waiting for this test to specially see the Continental Premium Contact 7 and Bridgestone Turanza T006 as I was really curious to see how much improvement these two major manufacturers made, and the CPC7 did not disappoint! I love the idea of making a separate video for budget tyres as there are many really good and promising new manufacturers in that category and it would be interesting to see how they rank against each other, instead of having only one or two each year against the premiums. It would be great if you could include the Turanza 6 in that test as well like the CPC7, to get the data on that tyre, as one of the things that both the Turanza 5 and the CPC6 fell short of Michelin and Goodyear in the past is the wear as both did poorly in comparison to the best from what I recall, they also did worse in both comfort and noise than those two so it would be interesting to see how much they improved in these 3 categories Looking forward to your next video and I hope to be able to compare those results to the premiums in the website as well
Also loved to see the Kumho Ecsta HS52 included in the test this year, was looking forward to it and it did not disappoint in the dry at least! I'm curious how would you rate the comfort and in cabin noise of that tyre compared to the Primacy 4+, EGP2 and the rest of the tyres? It seems to be one of the good options for dry and hot weather
@@tyrereviews I was hoping that you include it with the budget test same as the premium contact 7 to see its results, but maybe you already did the budget test?
Too right my 1st car a VW Golf MK4 1.9 SDI 68bhp had Triangle tyres on the front and old Uniroyals on the back with under 3mm of tread and about 10 years old too and the car would lose grip far too easily. I would enter a roundabout around 5mph faster than normal and the front tyres would have chronic understeer and it would swiftly be followed up with snap oversteer. It would also wheelspin in 1st with relative ease and would even chirp in 2nd gear in a straight line. My current car has 116hp and was the same weight it had Bridgestones up front and Contis on the back when I first bought it and it was virtually impossible to lose grip even if you drove it like it a complete wanker. Its on Pirelli P7C2s all round now and its still virtually impossible to lose grip. Budgets never again for me.
@@Deuteross all can kill. Foor what you are saying shoulb be only one model of tyres be on the market( the best one) because the other can more easily kill you. And what is cheap tyres? Is not simple like that...
So thankful for your channel, its tough to find unbiased tire reviews. would it be possible to do a comparison for Hybrid vehicle tires? I'm running the Michelin Primacy 3 E and I feel it needs an upgrade in regards to driving feel and wet grip. I drive a BMW 530e tuned to +400hp and I want to upgrade the tires but if I look at normal petrol car tires the side walls are too soft for the weight of the car. If I ask BMW they just recommend the stock tires which is fine when the car was stock but not now... I used to run the Michelin Pilot sport 4S on my old GTR and really like them but they don't seem to make a hybrid version of it. The only version I found was the Michelin Pilot Sport EV but I'm not sure to which petrol version it correlates to. Since they focus more on range and tire noise, but I'm not bothered with range to be honest.
I'm afraid most tyre sidewalls are soft now :( I'm not sure anyone will do a test with a hybrid as most of them would have issues keeping up with testing demands, I'd look at EV tyres designed for the heavier ev vehicles, but then you might have size issues. Runflat? :(
It seems to me that a lot of results are impacted by thread depth, so the tyres with more thread seems to have consistently done better in wet... obviously apart of Double Coin which honestly should be illegal to sell. But for the rest of mid-range+ tyres this seems to corelate. Would be interesting to see what results would be when all the tyres are consistently worn to say 5mm. And I know there was one test couple of years ago, but it seems to me maybe EU tyre labelling methodology should be improved i.e. giving 3 scores - when brand new, when worn to 5mm and when worn to 3mm. I almost find labelling misleading considering that tyres have very different thread depth from new and obviously they are only new for 1000 miles or so, and after that the performance will start changing significantly, in some cases for better (in dry) for some case worse (in wet).
I hope your budget tyre tests will include Landsail. In the UK market they're being pushed hard by many suppliers as "premium performance budget cost" and my boss has fell for it to be an official stockist and it annoys the hell out of me that he pushes them on every customer and there are no tests for them since like 2014 that shows how bad they actually are
I have Davanti in the test which I believe is a very similar tyre. Certain Chinese brands with bad reps are actually making good tyres now, Linglong especially
Just bought myself 4 hankook primes ventus 4 earlier this week and now after seeing this video I know I made a good investment (hopefully) - thanks for the vid
Hi Jonathan! I looked for a topic on the website/youtube channel and I couldn't find it. My question for you: how does the width of the rim influence the performance of the tire (contact patch, comfort, stability on the road, road feedback)? Example: 1. 225/50R18 tire on 18x7.5J rim; 2. 225/50R18 tire on 18x8.0J rim; 3. 225/50R18 tire on 18x8.5J rim; 4. 225/50R18 tire on 18x9.0J rim.
Fantastic test as usual brother. You made an excellent point with wet breaking - what it really means in reality and people often overlook the fact - where the best tire stopped - the worst one made you crash at 45KM/h - that is a devastating difference and not worth any money you would save on such cheaply made tire. I would instead take the bus instead of driving on such tires :)
I can attest to the rain performance of the extreme contacts, esp wet braking. I was going about 45mph when a van cut me off while another cut the van off all from a line, all at once. Left me about half a car, foot was hovering over the brakes, as I do that when I pass a line going the speed limit :) car: IS350
I just replaced my bmw x3 RFTs with Continental Extreme Contact DSW 06 Plus. The ride is amazing, as I expected. Every new vehicle I’ve purchased over the past 15 years, I drove to Discount Tire the next day and put Continentals on it. Cannot match the ride as well as amazing handling. I’ve even taken off new Michelins and still got a better ride.
I have been using Uniroyal Rainsport 3 & 5's for the past few years. They are ' A ' rated for wet weather. They have great grip and handling in rain and seemed not bad in the wet slushy snow. I tried a set of Hancock Ventus again ' A ' rated they were no where as good as the Uniroyal in the rain
Uniroyal is the best in the wet but thats their party trick overall as a tyre they don't impress me at all, very understeery performance and suck in the dry and just aren't a nice tyre to drive on. I'm liking my Pirelli Cinturato P7C2s though they're great at all times and are comfortable and quite too never had a tyre that does so much so well.
@@gravemind6536 I live in the West of Scotland and have to travel down to Glasgow about 2 -3 times a month. We get a lot of rain and the snow is quite often very wet. So good wet grip is needed over comfort
A friend recommended Vredestein Tyres to me years ago ... he was right and I've bought many in the decades since .... BUT they've now been subsumed by Indian Apollo Tyres.
Thanks for the video! I have a question: what is the absolute thinest tire (for a light car) that has good grip? How thin is too thin? I have a project that works with ground effect; and every inch that can be gained by thinner wheels and tires is desired. Or, would I loose more then I gain?
I am a fan of Goodyear and Continental. I used GY Efficient Grip Performance (& Perf 2) on two BMWs, often driving into a mountain area of extremely high rainfall, and the wet handling was astounding. I did not notice any shortcomings with aquaplaning. I haven't driven on the Conti 6 or 7 yet but I might be tempted if my bank account experiences a good month. 🙄
I had them they were decent tyres but I never liked them they felt wallowy at high speeds and they were sluggish in corners as you said and would have chronic understeer. I'm on Pirelli P7C2 now and they grip better in pretty much every imagineable way, they feel far more stable at high speed and I just can't get them to understeer as a bonus they're also really quite too.
The Goodyear EfficientGrip and the Bridgestone Turanza T005 are the best! Continental PremiumContact 7 is an average tire. Many friends tried once and changed to EfficientGrip or Turanza. I didn't like the Continental also.
Can I just point out... 10:28 - the Vredstein only comes with 6.6mm of tread!? That would compromise wear and I suspect engineers did that because it had unacceptable levels of rolling resistance (less block movement = lower fuel consumption) and fixed in the cheapest way possible. I would deduct points just for that!
Here is a thought. How about testing all the tires within the legal city street speed of 50-60 km/h on wet/dry/snow acceleration and braking, etc.? Would the Bridgestone tires of the world be that much better or worse than the budget tires?
Is it actually not possible to see if the Michelin is Primacy 4 or 4+? It does not show the + on the sidewall? About comfort and rolling resistance, this remained the same between the 4 and 4+ right? Just the durability that improved is what I remember you said before?
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Hi love you reviews, can you please do one for run flat tyres as so many cars don't have spares anymore and a lot of cars come with runflats. Thanks
Is there every going to any scope for someone doing the same with motorcycle tyres? I love the depth and consistency to which you test and I can’t find anyone who tests as many bike tyres in as much detail as you do for cars
Can you please include "SAVA INTENSA UHP 2" in one of your tests? Thanks
@@conanobrien1 im pretty sure he did include a sava a few years back. not sure if that was the same model tho. you cna always look it up on the website to get a rough idea however.
Scusami hai mai provato a cambiare pressione gomme per diminuire sottosterzo o sovrasterzo? Dato che sul SIDEWALL esistono ruote con : 1 polypropilene 2 poly, 2 rayon , come fai a trovare la corretta pressione ? Ciaooooo
Honestly the insane amount of usable information this guy gives us by doing a lot of of research is impressive.
Thanks!
@@tyrereviews Hi, need help, is Goodyear EfficientGrip2 Touring or ECO tyre, if it is touring, what is Gooyear eco tyre, like Michelinh Energysaver and Primacy? Help me to understand what category are what? GOODYEAR, MICHELINH, BRIDGESTON?
Very true!
Which is best??
Currently i'm using the Hankook Ventus Prime 4 and absolutely love it! Dry grip, wet grip, handling all good. Priced well and quite fun to drive too
Great tyres. 245/40/18 Ventus on my A4 Quattro.
Good to see you use a typical type of car that many of us drive, rather than a higher performance car such as a Porsche, Audi, etc.
Excellent test,kudos to the team. Keep up the good work,you have no competition.
After following tire tests in car magazines (Auto,motor und sport, Auto zeitung, ADAC tests)for 45 years you are the only ones on the internet that do this job very proffesionaly and to the highest of standards. I know it costs a lot of money and expertize to do those tests but you are doing an important public service and crushing it. Thank you!
Very good review and I agree. I drive a Jeep and experienced Bridgestone and Continental. Both very good. Excelent on all tracks even on German Autobahn and on wet surface. I also drove with high speed on a screw/spike. I heared a bang, It did not loose air pressure. Later I saw the screw/spike in it. My local garage repaired the tire within 10 minutes! Thanks again.
I always enjoy reviews on this channel. It is the top1 goto! I think that the double coin dc99 is very good, when you plan to build a tire swing for your kids in the garden. 15m more stopping distance is unbelievable.
It is incredible to think about when the top 6 tyres can only be seperated by around 1 metre. As it happens I'm getting a pair of P7C2 Pirellis on Sunday for my front wheels so good to see them do so well.
I'm not sure i'd want whatever they put in the tyres to be all over my kids hands!
@@tyrereviews I think that these tires are made from Chinesium ;-)
I’ve always run budget tires on my car, but this time round it was time to change all 4 and I went with a premium tire (Goodyear eagle f1 asymmetric 6) and I will not lie, it is actually unbelievable the amount of difference it makes, even in sub 2 degrees C, the car feels like it has unlimited grip, it is much more comfortable and tire noise is reduce massively. I don’t think I’ll ever put budget tires on my car ever again. Rip my wallet but definitely the best thing you can do to your car.
A friend of many years ago was of the 'all tyres are the same' persuasion until they bought a van with decent Michelins on it.
Do they wear fast?
@@spookyreaper1702 i think they wear the same as any tyres you run, i think performance tyres tend to wear faster because for me personally, i am able to take corners at much faster speeds so with time this will cause faster wear, and also because the compound is different and allows more grip, i think the general rule is the more grip you have the faster tyres wear. however the differences in wear between performace road tires and budget tyres is minimal and shouldnt really be the reason youre put off buying more expensive performance tyres. at the end of the day it comes down to your driving style, you can easily wear out non performance tires quicker than performance ones depending on how you drive (accelration speed and corner speed etc). for me personally theyre wearing at a "normal" rate so i wouldnt be put off buying them again.
@@B2KJFF good answer I’m on ps5s rn and I was thinking of the Goodyears because they’re a bit cheaper. Just been scared they’re gonna wear out fast. The ps5s feel really dull but grip really well
@@spookyreaper1702 ive driven on both ps5s and goodyear a6s, id say grip is very similar, the only reason youd pay 200 more for the michelins is honestly because they look nicer and that really isnt worth 200 to me personally
As always, great content on tires that is second to none. I appreciate the acknowledgment on EVs and the verbal blurb on which one would probably be best for electrics.
I bought a set of 4 Pirelli Cinturato p7 all season plus 2s last summer and I have been thoroughly impressed with them. They are my first Pirelli tires I've owned. I had the Michelin Primacy MXV4 previously and the ride quality and sound level is a huge step up superior to the Michelins. I'm not saying that the Michelins are not a good tire but the Pirellis are better on my car.
I've just purchesed the Pirelli's and I adore them. Couldn't have picked them without your amazing and in depth reviews, keep up the amazing work mister!
Brilliant all rounder.
How are the Pirelli's holding up? I have heard some stories about these tyres having difficulties balancing out/going out of shape, but i have no experience with this brand
Just bought Tires for my mother yesterday 😅
But I learned alot from you, thank you for all the effort!
It could be really awesome if you included the current best all season tire in your summer/winter tire tests, just to see how much worse/better off we would be with an all-season.
I agree, though I thought of it too late. A test about to go on the website had a Cc2 in a 19" uhp test though, check it out next week!
@@tire_reviews nice. Will do!
Have you compared the cc2 with the cc2suv tire?
@@mikkelkirketerp4884 It's exactly the same tyre, just a different name :)
@Tyre Reviews really?
I might remember wrong, but I just think I saw to similar sized ones where the standard had lower weight rating than the SUV - so I thought that maybe one had another construction than the other.
Also being in Europe I know I won't get to 60.000miles with one pair, but it could be interesting to see a test comparing the American vs eu cc2 :D
I think I might upset Michelin doing that :o
I'm excited to see the Premium Contact 7 in a High Performance comparison soon! I hope it still kept its sportiness compared to the Premium Contact 6. I really like the steering response and would prefer this sharper turn in over a Pilot Sport 4.
I also think it's interesting how Continental offers one tire to compete both in the touring and the high performance category.
Agreed, I'll be testing it in 18" this year too hopefully
@@tyrereviews that would be perfect! I would love 225/40/r18. Do you have an estimated time frame on this test? I think I will be due for new summer tires in may or april. I guess the premium contact 7 will be a good sporty choice regardless.
Do you have any comment on when you would choose the sport contact over the premium contact?
@@emmamitchell1582 I'll be testing in May so sometime around then! I'd pick the Sportcontact when you want something a bit more ... sporty :) There will be lots of tests on www.tyrereviews.com before may in your size, keep an eye on the site.
@@tyrereviews thanks! I would love to see the Sportcontact and Premiumcontact together in a test sometime! I find it pretty hard to compare across categories, as they are usually tested separately. I'm interest in how much wear and comfort I would give up going with the sportcontact. And then obviously how much feel and performance I would gain.
Thanks for all your work btw!
@@emmamitchell1582 I have the PC6 under my MX5 and UP GTI now, and it's such a fine tire. I always go for the tire with best 'subjective' handling together with best wet performance. This Conti does it all
My tire supplier said he prefers the PC over the SC because it's just better for allround daily driving.
Best tire reviews on the internet. Thank you for always speaking your truth
Just fitted a set of four Pirelli P7 Cints run flats to my BMW 4 series Grand Coupe on 255/50/17's. They have transformed the ride, handling and noise level. It previosly had Dunlop Sports on the rear and two odd cheap tyres fitted by the previous owner on the front. You only get what you pay for.
Thanks for this review, your analysis was absolutely spot on. I picked up 4 new the continental contact sport 7 tyres. They grip so well in the wet and dry surface giving you a confidence level of a 1000%. My car is a C43 Amg with these tyres Iam currently getting a 0-60 time of 3.9/4 seconds, with my old Pirelli P Zero tyres It was doing around 4.2/4.3 seconds 0-60. It's definitely an upgrade
How do they act when doing fast maneuvers/lane changes in 120+kmh/ 80+mph?
@@MS-we4wiHaha, that’s what I’m here for as well. Gotta be safe when I’m being silly
My car had Bridgestone winter tires (245/40/17 Blizzak was on back and another 1 pair of 225/45/17 Bridgestone on front axe.) They were extremely loud, slipped on wet road like I'm driving on ice, also smelt very bad on +10 degrees. Then replaced all 4 by Pirelli Powergy (225/45/17 on front and 245/40/17 on back). The car became extremely quiet, on wet roads almost nearly 0 slippage, on dry roads it's perfect and no disgusting smell..
I've just got a set of Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance 2's fitted today, they still have to properly set but an amazing tyre. Low noise, comfortable and great steering, although not properly tested for grip yet
Tested for grip, savage tires
You made me buy a set of PremiumContact 6.
You made me buy a set of WinterContact TS 860.
Then you made me buy a set of WinterContact TS 870.
Now you made me buy a set of PremiumContact 7 (will fit them this spring)! So happy they improved the wet grip.
Every set of Continentals that I had has been outstanding!
Thank you for another amazing video and for helping me keep my family safe over the years!
:D
I absolutely LOVE and appreciate your tire reviews and comparisons. By far the best, most complete, and most helpful reviews there are out on the web. As someone while lives in the United States, my only suggestion (request) would be to better identify what tires are designed (sold in/made for) the North American market vs. the European market. I know you do some of the time but tests like this I could tell that none of them are available in North America (only because it's my job as a service manager at an independent repair shop). That would be swell if you could somehow identify the market these are for. Other than that keep up the amazing work! Thank you
Thanks. It's a tricky one on youtube as you risk early click offs which is really bad for the algo, but I'll work on something :)
@@tyrereviews The algorithm dictates what can we watch.
@@tyrereviews You could voiceover or list this info on your website so people could check it there ? Don't think ZoomZoom81 suggested a "US vs EU tyres" title but a bit more info on which models US customers could actually purchase.
@@tyrereviewsyou could leave that bit at the end of the video 😉
Superb video!
Guys never ever go for cheap tyres/tires.
I always go for Michelin, Bridgestone, Continental, Goodyear and sometimes Pirelli, Hankook
I don’t think anyone would go for cheap tyres if they had the money to buy them. Over 80% of my customers could only afford budget tyres unfortunately.
@@Thetyrerepairer BS. Tyres are the mos timportant part of the car. If they can aford to own the car (fuel, insurance, maintenence,...) they *can* very much afford premium tyres. It is just that people are so uninformed and think that the tyres are the least important and just buy the cheapest. If sellers would educate them more about tyres, it would be different. But sellers are more interested in pushing those tyres that make them the most profit (the biggest factory price to resale price difference). Just like with any other car parts.
@@DashCamSerbia exactly! The problem isn’t affordability cause anyone can spend a bit more on a premium quality tyre.
It’s very little education in safety when you own a car. A low quality tyre can kill you in many occasions cause they got horrible brake distances, aquaplaning problems etc
Thanks for this outstanding set of tests, as usual. It's great that you include the individual scores - for me, driving on UK roads and having experienced it years ago, preventing aquaplaning is absolutely crucial. Pleased to see the Falken tyres performed very well in this regard, as I tend to get these fitted on my cars (most recently as RFTs for my 3 series).
Glad you're happy with your choice :)
Having used all sorts of brands of tyres over the last 50+ years of driving, I have now settled on using Goodyear. Compared to all the other premium tyres available Goodyear seem to produce tyres in all their ranges that are so predictable and confidence inspiring to the point where another tyre, say a P7, can offer better grip but the A to B times are better with the Goodyear because I have the confidence that I know what they will do in every situation so I don't have to back off.
The vast majority of car owners fit one set (or God forbid individual tyres) every say 40k mls or so and therefore they are committed to 5(?) years of motoring on solely that tyre brand. Unfortunately, many owners haven't got a clue when it comes to selecting tyres and listen to the BS from the fitter, who isn't qualified to give that advice, at the tyre shop as to what to fit that will be totally governed by either his stock levels or which tyres he can make most profit on.
IMO wet grip, dry grip, noise, etc, pale into insignificance if you are not confident in the ability of your tyres. Never buy cheap tyres, its a false economy and they will under perform, leave those to the used car sales man to fit to his stock to gullible punters.
Very thorough review as always. I bought Conti Premium Contacts (an earlier incarnation) several years back on your recommendation and have been very happy with them. Have been through a couple of sets and will definitely choose them again next time I need tyres. The only slight downside is that they can be a little noisy, as you point out, but apart from that, they're excellent. Last well and keenly priced, too. Thanks for your advice.
You’re a legend mate. Thanks for the excellent work as always.
Test idea: What about a comparison between bugdet/mid-range winter tyres against budget/premium all-season tyres? I do not know if this is the same for all of Europe at least, but in Romania you can often find premium all-season tyres at mid-range winter tyres price, and I am left wondering which one would actually perform better or at least be better value if the differences are significant.
Interesting concept, I'll add it to the list!
Is sava tire popular in Romania or not?
@@hercegovac9999 Romanians are not really interested in tyres so I wouldn’t say popular, but I ve seen them on a few cars. They are pretty good value too.
Decided on the Bridgestone Turanza T005 because of this video. It's for a Toyota Mirai and with hydrogen prices currently a ridiculous $27/kg I needed the least rolling resistance possible. They were also have the price of the Michelin Primacy tires I was considering.
How is comfort and noise after 9 months use? Tread wear?
Finally! Quality content is back after a long long time....maybe almost 2 months
It was about that yeah, start of the year is always slow!
Just amazing content!! By very very far the best tire reviews!!
Great production, thank you for sharing this info with us. Waiting for the wear test as well :)
I've been using on my Golf for the past 2 years Conti PremiumContact 6. I love them.
How is the wear, comfort over pumps and road imperfections and internal cabin noise with time?
@@dominozonda they are very confortable, the grip is insane and the wear is ok. I did 37k km with them and there's still 50% of the thread on them.
This is where I found difficulty with the Continentals. But maybe they just don't suit Australian conditions.@@dominozonda
@@allanbriggs9007 so comfort, wear and noise were the cons of this tyre? Can you expand on your experience using them?
Yes - The front tyres "feathered" very quickly (Peugeot 308 is front wheel drive). mechanic suggested increasing tyre pressure which I did (40psi all round). On rougher surfaces the tyres gave a very harsh drive (tyre pressures ??) They gave good handling for the first 20,000kms then it deteriorated very quickly. I spoke to my mechanic who specialises in European cars and he indicated that my experience was not unusual. I read all the European reviews and the Continentals get excellent reviews, hence my comment that maybe our road conditions (heat) affected the Continentals. I changed to Pirellis (same as those tested here) on the mechanics advice and they were far superior. The only negative about the Pirellis is that they do have a bit of road noise, but that didn't worry me.
Please note that my comments are about a particular car using Continentals and my experience was in Australia in fairly hot conditions. I also drive hard and fast.@@dominozonda
I think your reviews are great and whilst I can afford to buy expensive tyres there are many families out there at the moment who are really struggling. So they do not have much choice when it comes to buying tyres for their car. How about doing a really worthwhile test on budget tyres for families who just drive at normal speeds in all weathers, this would be doing a great service for thousands of families. Just a thought!
Lately I bought Pirelli P7 C2, using it since 6 months its really best value tyre. My pervious tyres was continental premium cont. 5 which was excellent in performance but was too rigid to my car (Honda civic) and have unsolvable balance vibration issue on average and high speeds, plus the significant price difference compared with the Pirelli
In general, how large are the compromises made by selecting a Grand Touring All Season tire over a Grand Touring Summer tire?
For example - if I’m not concerned with snow traction because I live in a mild climate, but my priorities are quite, comfort and hydroplaning resistance - should I expect that a summer tire will excel in those areas over the top contenders from the Grand Touring All Season category?
I often find it difficult to appreciate the properties of a tire within its own class without contrast to tires of another category.
In my opinion, it comes down to rubber rigidity. The softer, the more grip. But it wears faster and usually costs more up front. I prefer a somewhat more balanced rubber/tread for more flexibility. Especially if it keeps me from buying separate winter tires.
Danke!
Willkommen!
Fantastic testing! I'd love to see how the budget USA UniRoyal Tiger Paw, the well-rated economy Maaxis, and the venerable BF Goodrich tires perform. Thanks!!
Goodyear F1 Eagle Asymetric 5 on my BMW e90 feel like I am driving on train tracks. Wet, dry, turns, breaking no matter the condition, they are always there and reliable as hell. Best tyre I have ever driven.
Looking forward to the budget test. Always a 'fun' category.
Interesting to see your perspective of the NA1. I found it decent in the dry but pretty poor on the wet. It would just start to understeer with zero feedback, eerie.
I always enjoy it from a challenge perspective, perhaps not the best thing for the road though.
Man. Still only 201k sub? Not a million yet? Love you Jon!
One day 🥲
well, I'd rather have a bit less grippy tire than a noisy one.
Would not give Continental the win since noise is something you have to deal with every day.
Go with the Pirelli Cintuarto P7C2 it doesn't win overall on grip but its still excellent but the noise and comfort of the tyre are also exceptional, its really the jack of all trades and you make little compromise on anything. Exceptional all round tyre for a daily driver. I have them fitted to my Toyota Auris 1.2T and they're exceptional.
@@gravemind6536 I'm planning them on my Alfa Romeo Giulietta. I'm running on Turanza T005, which grip wise are fine but cabin noise and comfort are really bad. That's why I much prefer giving up the absolute performance and trade it for a good compromise between safety and comfort. I was thinking about those Pirelli, Dunlop Blueresponse or Continental ultra contact. Thank you for your suggestion.
Thanks people. This sort of review is extremely useful. We already bought Goodyear for the wet handling as that was out biggest concern.
I would love to see budget tires tested that are more popular in Eastern Europe.
Tyres like Tigar, Debica, Laufenn would be nice to see.
That's the next test!
@@tyrereviewssome chinese tyres also like Rydanz, Westlake, Tourador, LingLong or Goodride
Tigar is shit, I bought my car 1,5 years ago and the seller gave me a set of winter tires, which were of that brand, the car was slipping much more than I’d like it to
I recently put 4 Pirelli 'powerge' tyres on my 2013 Nissan cube.
Very noticeablely smoother ride with less tyre generated road noise.
Not the cheapest tyres, but l appreciate them each time l drive it.
Glad you like them :)
I have the Pirelli P7C2 in the size tested on this video for my 2016 Toyota Auris 1.2T brilliant all round tyre, great handling, good straight line traction and good on fuel and brilliant on tyre noise.
Great review as always. Looking forward to see comparison of Conti PC7 with Michellin PS 5 and Goodyear EA 6 as I am going to buy new set this year and looking for best noise/comfort from those 3 🙂
I'm excited about doing it! :D
What did you choose? I'm looking at exactly the same tyres, it's not easy to decide which one to buy. They all seem like good choices, but I'm currently most tempted to buy the EF1A6.
Bought the Bridgestones EG P2 based on your tests and reviews. Thank you.
Reasonably priced tyre. Halfords currently has 10% discount on Bridgestones if you buy 4.
Thanks so much for all of the effort you put in. You are truly the Gold standard when it comes to tire tests. I have a set of Continental VikingContact7’s on my Corolla and they’re great.
I want to replace loud summer Firestone FT140’s with the quietest tire money can buy as the car is loud.. but I’m finding 15” is becoming a more limited size than it used to be, excluding me from the best. I wish I could put the new contis on but oh well I guess
Thanks for your work, it helped me choose the all weather tyres that are doing well. You're doing a service to all of us
Great to hear!
16 inch guy here, I'll be going for the Falken Ecoruns, people seem to be very happy with it.
Exceptional work, once again.
I eagerly await the next one.
Looks like I will be fitting the Conti to my motor imminently!
Very enjoyable video as always. Looking forward to the UHP vid for 2023.
Great presentations, love the content. Could you test smaller sizes which would suit 13 or 14 inches diameter wheels. Thinking of the Aygo, Fiesta size cars. I have an older,and rarer car a Daihatsu Sirion 1.5 SX Auto which is great to drive and does 52 mpg and free in the ulez zones surprisingly. I have the Goodyear Vector 4 Season Gen 3 tyres fitted which are a fantastic tyre on this car.
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David Evans
Tyre options are getting narrower and availiability lower on anything with less than 15 inch wheels in todays world the prices are also insane. 205/55R16 are the best tyres for affordability and range.
I have budget tyres on my 300hp+ Jaguar XF (Tomket) & when driving to road conditions I have never had a single problem in all conditions.
Tonket are one of the better budget brands if they were any better they would be edging into mid range territory.
Boost this channel UA-cam!! Been watching this channel for about a couple of years and my goodness this guy's work ethic and tenacity are just 🤌
It might be interesting to plot the groove depth and weight against dry handling. 7.3 mm against 8.6 mm is quite a difference (block stiffness, temperature) and the weight might actully correlate not only groove depth but also construction (stiffness, belt arrangement).
Yep. There's certainly an element of that.
@@tyrereviewsthank you from USA (Florida) I’m still trying to figure out which one for my 2013 Mazda 3 I’m between Bridgestone Michelin or Continental I don’t know which? What is your opinion or thoughts by the way I don’t travel far and if I do is up to Tampa but sometimes I like to speed but no more that 65 I can seen to make up my mind🤷♀️
@@tmartinez1948 Sadly I'm not sure you'll have many of these in the USA. If it's no winter running at all, there's some good summer US specific products, but generally I'd imagine for your driving a US all season tyre would be the best choice as you'll get a much longer tread warranty from it.
@@tmartinez1948 TBH they're all fine tires. Michelin/Conti followed by Bridgestone, in my opinion. Get the most expensive one you are willing to pay for. Personally, safety is my number 1 concern, so Michelin or Continental. If you're getting Michelins, you can choose from the Pilot Sport All-Season 4 (if they make it in your size, that is), the CrossClimate 2 or Defender 2, but again, only spend what you feel comfortable spending. Good luck and let us know what you end up getting and whether you'd get them again.
Super helpful test! Also so smart to have a tool to change the weighting based on where you live/what’s more important to you
I was just thinking, the Nankang would be a neat choice for a low powered car on a track day, to practice dealing with wild and woolly handling events. reminds me of some of the early reviews of the GT86 car, with it horrid stock tires that let you drift around at 15mph or something.
The only place on the net where you get honest unbiased information about tyres, keep up the good work!
I work in the tyre industry so always look forward to your videos, this video specifically is very helpful as this is an area we sell a lot of tyres in. About your budget test I'm looking forward to it and I'm just hoping u managed to get hold of the triangle th202 as since hearing about it a few weeks ago it peaked my curiosity with its 'A rating in the wet'.. quite interested to see how it does in testing, good or bad
Thanks for sharing. I don't think we got the new Triangle sadly, we tested last year, but we do have a Davanti and a retread which was interesting.
Can you please make comparison review between Bridgestone Turanza T005 vs Michelin Energy XM2+ vs Continental CC7? In terms of low noise, comfort, and durability, which one will you recommend? I'm currently looking for replacement for my old tyre (current use Michelin Energy XM2 for 4 years and 9 months with nearly 96.000 KM run). Thank you for any advice
So many cars don't have spares any more and come with run flats. Please do a runflat test
I've just went and bought the michelin primacy 4+ in 225/45 R18 configuration for my BMW 225xe plug-in hybrid. It seems a good all around summer tire for our needs. Thank you for your review
Hey John, great video as always
I was waiting for this test to specially see the Continental Premium Contact 7 and Bridgestone Turanza T006 as I was really curious to see how much improvement these two major manufacturers made, and the CPC7 did not disappoint!
I love the idea of making a separate video for budget tyres as there are many really good and promising new manufacturers in that category and it would be interesting to see how they rank against each other, instead of having only one or two each year against the premiums.
It would be great if you could include the Turanza 6 in that test as well like the CPC7, to get the data on that tyre, as one of the things that both the Turanza 5 and the CPC6 fell short of Michelin and Goodyear in the past is the wear as both did poorly in comparison to the best from what I recall, they also did worse in both comfort and noise than those two so it would be interesting to see how much they improved in these 3 categories
Looking forward to your next video and I hope to be able to compare those results to the premiums in the website as well
Also loved to see the Kumho Ecsta HS52 included in the test this year, was looking forward to it and it did not disappoint in the dry at least!
I'm curious how would you rate the comfort and in cabin noise of that tyre compared to the Primacy 4+, EGP2 and the rest of the tyres?
It seems to be one of the good options for dry and hot weather
I naturally tried to get the T6 but when we filmed (sept) it wasn't available :( Some tests of it should appear on www.tyrereviews.com soon,
@@tyrereviews I was hoping that you include it with the budget test same as the premium contact 7 to see its results, but maybe you already did the budget test?
@@tyrereviews how would you rate the comfort and noise of the Kumho? Is it comparable to the Primacy 4+ or the EGP2?
@@dominozonda it's already shot, I just need to finish the edit, and yes the PC7 is in as the benchmark
I recently refused to buy by a bmw 320d until the dealer changed all the tyres for a decent tyre, they said,
but these are brand new ting tong rubber!
Too right my 1st car a VW Golf MK4 1.9 SDI 68bhp had Triangle tyres on the front and old Uniroyals on the back with under 3mm of tread and about 10 years old too and the car would lose grip far too easily. I would enter a roundabout around 5mph faster than normal and the front tyres would have chronic understeer and it would swiftly be followed up with snap oversteer. It would also wheelspin in 1st with relative ease and would even chirp in 2nd gear in a straight line. My current car has 116hp and was the same weight it had Bridgestones up front and Contis on the back when I first bought it and it was virtually impossible to lose grip even if you drove it like it a complete wanker. Its on Pirelli P7C2s all round now and its still virtually impossible to lose grip. Budgets never again for me.
Cheap tires should be banned.
I always say this. They’re lethal.
How come you can legally sell equipment that can kill
@@Deuteross all can kill.
Foor what you are saying shoulb be only one model of tyres be on the market( the best one) because the other can more easily kill you.
And what is cheap tyres?
Is not simple like that...
@@ProGamerKF There should be simply some minimal safety requirements
Totally agree
Thanks so much for the Continental PremiumContact 7! Will now sure buy those in 215/60 R17 for my car this summer!
So thankful for your channel, its tough to find unbiased tire reviews. would it be possible to do a comparison for Hybrid vehicle tires? I'm running the Michelin Primacy 3 E and I feel it needs an upgrade in regards to driving feel and wet grip. I drive a BMW 530e tuned to +400hp and I want to upgrade the tires but if I look at normal petrol car tires the side walls are too soft for the weight of the car. If I ask BMW they just recommend the stock tires which is fine when the car was stock but not now... I used to run the Michelin Pilot sport 4S on my old GTR and really like them but they don't seem to make a hybrid version of it. The only version I found was the Michelin Pilot Sport EV but I'm not sure to which petrol version it correlates to. Since they focus more on range and tire noise, but I'm not bothered with range to be honest.
I'm afraid most tyre sidewalls are soft now :( I'm not sure anyone will do a test with a hybrid as most of them would have issues keeping up with testing demands, I'd look at EV tyres designed for the heavier ev vehicles, but then you might have size issues. Runflat? :(
I like especially that you added the treads and weights.
It seems to me that a lot of results are impacted by thread depth, so the tyres with more thread seems to have consistently done better in wet... obviously apart of Double Coin which honestly should be illegal to sell. But for the rest of mid-range+ tyres this seems to corelate. Would be interesting to see what results would be when all the tyres are consistently worn to say 5mm. And I know there was one test couple of years ago, but it seems to me maybe EU tyre labelling methodology should be improved i.e. giving 3 scores - when brand new, when worn to 5mm and when worn to 3mm. I almost find labelling misleading considering that tyres have very different thread depth from new and obviously they are only new for 1000 miles or so, and after that the performance will start changing significantly, in some cases for better (in dry) for some case worse (in wet).
Great ideas and something I always want to do, just sadly wearing tyres is VERY expensive to do it properly
Aaaaahhh my favourite tyre's category. Awesome job, as usual my firend!
Thanks!
I hope your budget tyre tests will include Landsail. In the UK market they're being pushed hard by many suppliers as "premium performance budget cost" and my boss has fell for it to be an official stockist and it annoys the hell out of me that he pushes them on every customer and there are no tests for them since like 2014 that shows how bad they actually are
I heard Landsails are one of the worst tyres you can buy currently.
I have Davanti in the test which I believe is a very similar tyre. Certain Chinese brands with bad reps are actually making good tyres now, Linglong especially
Just bought myself 4 hankook primes ventus 4 earlier this week and now after seeing this video I know I made a good investment (hopefully) - thanks for the vid
Let me know how you get on with them!
Hey man. Can you give me ab update on the tyres? Thinking of buying them soon. They seems pretty nice overall.
@@tyrereviews They are very silent. My car feels stable. Overall more than satisfied with the product
Brilliant as always … just wish would spend and extra bit for good tires
Love from Scotland 🏴
Hi Jonathan!
I looked for a topic on the website/youtube channel and I couldn't find it.
My question for you: how does the width of the rim influence the performance of the tire (contact patch, comfort, stability on the road, road feedback)?
Example:
1. 225/50R18 tire on 18x7.5J rim;
2. 225/50R18 tire on 18x8.0J rim;
3. 225/50R18 tire on 18x8.5J rim;
4. 225/50R18 tire on 18x9.0J rim.
Fantastic test as usual brother. You made an excellent point with wet breaking - what it really means in reality and people often overlook the fact - where the best tire stopped - the worst one made you crash at 45KM/h - that is a devastating difference and not worth any money you would save on such cheaply made tire. I would instead take the bus instead of driving on such tires :)
Wait until the budget version of this, I crash.
I can attest to the rain performance of the extreme contacts, esp wet braking. I was going about 45mph when a van cut me off while another cut the van off all from a line, all at once. Left me about half a car, foot was hovering over the brakes, as I do that when I pass a line going the speed limit :) car: IS350
Cheap tyres should only be sold in dry climate countries.
Tyres like Double coin should not be allowed in any market under any circumstances.
I just replaced my bmw x3 RFTs with Continental Extreme Contact DSW 06 Plus. The ride is amazing, as I expected. Every new vehicle I’ve purchased over the past 15 years, I drove to Discount Tire the next day and put Continentals on it. Cannot match the ride as well as amazing handling. I’ve even taken off new Michelins and still got a better ride.
Once again. New tire reviews are ok, but what really matters to people is how well the tire lasts and how it does once worn.
I don't disagree, it's just insanely expensive to wear tyres properly so it doesn't get done often.
I have been using Uniroyal Rainsport 3 & 5's for the past few years. They are ' A ' rated for wet weather. They have great grip and handling in rain and seemed not bad in the wet slushy snow. I tried a set of Hancock Ventus again ' A ' rated they were no where as good as the Uniroyal in the rain
Uniroyal is the best in the wet but thats their party trick overall as a tyre they don't impress me at all, very understeery performance and suck in the dry and just aren't a nice tyre to drive on. I'm liking my Pirelli Cinturato P7C2s though they're great at all times and are comfortable and quite too never had a tyre that does so much so well.
@@gravemind6536 I live in the West of Scotland and have to travel down to Glasgow about 2 -3 times a month. We get a lot of rain and the snow is quite often very wet. So good wet grip is needed over comfort
A friend recommended Vredestein Tyres to me years ago ... he was right and I've bought many in the decades since ....
BUT they've now been subsumed by Indian Apollo Tyres.
Ordered Premium Contact 7 a week ago and just now googled if they are any good. Haha, oh boy was i in for a treat 😅 felt good.
Welcome back mate. Been a while! Will be watching this with dinner in 20 min
thanks for this review, companies should pay you for this informations because it will help them make better quality tires
this video gives a lot information, appreciate you keep it the content like this.
I use the bridgestone t005 on my audi a6. Excellent tyre, but change them before the tread gets too worn. Great all rounder.
How many miles?
Thanks for the video! I have a question: what is the absolute thinest tire (for a light car) that has good grip? How thin is too thin? I have a project that works with ground effect; and every inch that can be gained by thinner wheels and tires is desired. Or, would I loose more then I gain?
I am a fan of Goodyear and Continental. I used GY Efficient Grip Performance (& Perf 2) on two BMWs, often driving into a mountain area of extremely high rainfall, and the wet handling was astounding. I did not notice any shortcomings with aquaplaning. I haven't driven on the Conti 6 or 7 yet but I might be tempted if my bank account experiences a good month. 🙄
I had the Turanza T004 myself. It really feels sluggish in corner, but is excellent on wet roads.
I had them they were decent tyres but I never liked them they felt wallowy at high speeds and they were sluggish in corners as you said and would have chronic understeer. I'm on Pirelli P7C2 now and they grip better in pretty much every imagineable way, they feel far more stable at high speed and I just can't get them to understeer as a bonus they're also really quite too.
thank you so much this was so helpful
i love this touring tires series because im looking for best low noise & comfort
The Goodyear EfficientGrip and the Bridgestone Turanza T005 are the best!
Continental PremiumContact 7 is an average tire. Many friends tried once and changed to EfficientGrip or Turanza. I didn't like the Continental also.
I would like to see Uniroyal in that test because it's a very specific tire and I am curious of the results.
Between kumho hs52 and falken ziex ze 310 what you should suggest especially on dry handling braking and going faster on dry conditions
This is what we need. Cheers!
Can I just point out... 10:28 - the Vredstein only comes with 6.6mm of tread!? That would compromise wear and I suspect engineers did that because it had unacceptable levels of rolling resistance (less block movement = lower fuel consumption) and fixed in the cheapest way possible. I would deduct points just for that!
Freakin Fantastic job mate.
Great video fella, I’m with you with how good both this Continental is and the sports contact 7! Awesome
Always love to watch your vid when comparing tyres❤
Here is a thought. How about testing all the tires within the legal city street speed of 50-60 km/h on wet/dry/snow acceleration and braking, etc.? Would the Bridgestone tires of the world be that much better or worse than the budget tires?
Is it actually not possible to see if the Michelin is Primacy 4 or 4+? It does not show the + on the sidewall? About comfort and rolling resistance, this remained the same between the 4 and 4+ right? Just the durability that improved is what I remember you said before?
Yes, durability indeed is improved when speaking about Primacy 4+ and also better safety when worn because of the softer mixture of the lower layer.
I'm with Goodyear on all 4 cars that we owned..on summer and winter setup..