History is repeating itself: Why Switch 2 is similar to SNES
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- If all goes well, the Switch 2 will be to the Switch what the SNES was to the NES. Just like the SNES built on the NES with better graphics, new gameplay, and an unforgettable lineup of games. The Switch 2 could truly become the Switch but better but not without its challenges.
I think it's way more similar to the DS and 3DS. Firstly, they are part of the same brand. The "DS" brand, having the same exact clamp-shell design. Secondly, the last iteration was the one they built off of for the next system (The DSi being the DS that they modeled the 3DS after, and the Switch OLED being the Switch they are modelling the Switch 2 after, with the whole OLED thing). Thirdly, all they are doing with the naming is adding a number to the next one. Fourth, the next one added way better graphics, which can allow for more powerful games, even if they aren't going to be breath-taking.
This is the correct take. The Super NES was a completely different system with no backwards compatibility. Switch → Switch 2 is really nothing like NES → Super NES.
damn you beat me to it lmao
Totally agree.
switch 2 isn't comfirmed to have oled
That’s another video on this channel
Nintendo is the only company to not sell a console at a loss. Although small, they do have an actual profit margin on hardware.
Which isn't a good thing at all.
That hardware is not cheap to produce, you know.
@@martinpiekarski1512 it is...
@Golemoid how
@@ThompYT a company can't allow to sell for profits according to him
The SNES wasn't backwards compatible, but the Switch 2 will be. So we'll have two massive libraries in one if things go well.
The SNES chip had an 8-bit compatibility mode that could have made it backwards compatible, but it was never used. The sound chips worked differently too, but if Nintendo really wanted they could have made an adapter or something maybe.
I guess they didn't start doing backwards compatibility on console until the Wii. But I'm pretty sure all the handhelds have it.
and I mean the library is MASSIVE … now if all the terrible frame game run better on the switch 2 from switch 2? that will be GAME OVER
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@@keaton718 , hmm, I wonder if the MSU-1 or SD2SNES technologies could make usage of that feature, out of curiosity?
U ppl are suffering from "wii u ptsd" its really frustrating to see and listen to ppl like u ....the switch 2 and wii u situation are completely different the switch 2 will be a success
The Wii U failed because of bad marketing, people were confused on whether it was a new console or a new controller for the Wii. The Switch 2 is different, because of the name. You don't get confused on whether or not Mario Galaxy and Mario Galaxy 2 are the same game.
Or anything one or 2 unless maybe Xbox one which confused some
@Spooky-n6lheavy on that first part, if you ever asked me i would say the wii u was the best console nintendo EVER made 9.5 times out of 10, it only failed in the selling and especially marketing part
@ I agree, I have a Wii U myself, while it is a great console, it has terrible marketing
Switch 2 will hit but every sequel console underperforms the original with Nintendo.
NES to SNES
GB to GBA
DS to 3DS
Wii to Wii U
Switch 2 won’t reach the same heights but N will be fine. So much of their revenue is in services, licensing etc now
I am absolutely ecstatic about the switch 2. I love my switch and it’s been my primary console since it came out, but I would be lying if I didn’t say that specs definitely hold a ton of games back.
Same here
I'm pretty comfortable with my switch but it's really pity if we talk power of precession
Even game like doom eternal are a complete miracle technique for the console
But for other games like cross party like sonic the hedgehog, hold back their full potential
Like sonic frontiers for an excelent example
witholding info isn't exactly lying is it
@ well it's definitely omitting part of the truth, I did phrase that weirdly
@@nirgunawish I know it isn't but man looks like we gonna slide our joycons ok the floor
Apart of than some games like mario maker or video game studio is much confortable with mouse
So isn't be a surprise if one of the new features is joy con mouse
The customers for the Wii and the customers for the Switch are very different people. Wii customers were casuals that didn't understand gaming and didnt buy many games. Switch customers are more educated to the gaming world and play games all the time.
A bigger more powerful Switch is absolutely perfect and what everyone wants
It appeals to "casuals" as well. And that's not a bad thing.
This isn't just Similar to the Snes... This is basically The Switch's equivalent to a Snes. They even called it Switch 2.
More like Wii U I’m just being realistic
@@charlieasalgadosalgado1369 The name isn't as confusing and they made pretty clear what it is.
@@charlieasalgadosalgado1369 Wii U flopped because it was NOTHING like the Wii. If it was just Wii HD it would be way more popular.
Why didn't they call it the Super Switch then?
What does Switch 2 have to do with SNES? I'd see your point if it was the Super Switch
I having a switch with the Specs of a PS4 would be great. Keep the old system that works, but be able to play AAA games as well, even if watered down.
Sounds perfect.
That said, this system will need great backwards compatibility to succeed like the original. First switch was too successful, and there are too many large digital games libraries of individual consumers. People won't want to throw that away.
@@steverempel8584 Switch 2 is completely retro compatible, only exception is that for some games you need old joycons
steam deck
@@steverempel8584played doom eternal on switch ps4 and ps5. It was liked seeing after being blind. The fact that the dock cant be up to snuff is absolutely disappointing and looking forward to pirating the switch 2.0 hardware
@@AcanofalconpunchYou will not pirate switch 2 software if you do I'll find you
I really can't escape the Yiga... now give me the banana.
Ohhhh banana 🍌
4:40 I love how we are all just confident that it is a mouse mode, and that's just settled, even though we dont know for sure and probably wont for a few months.
It was teased in the trailer
@@minecrafter3448 literally how bro
@@alexjustalexyt1144when the joycons slid along the table like mice
@@alexjustalexyt1144 You have the double lens visible in both joycons + the joycons w/ the attatchment sliding across a flat surface with the lens-side face-down. The lenses are also identical to those found in any computer mouse. Its very likely these will work as a mouse; there's not much else they can be used for.
gotta love content farming
SNES also had another competitor in its later years, the PlayStation, which proved an even worse thorn in the side for the Nintendo 64.
I laugh at the notion that Sony or Microsoft could ever be able to challenge Nintendo in the Handheld/Hybrid market.
Microsoft has already confirmed that Forza Horizon 5 is coming to PS5, with a Switch 2 version likely to also be announced soon. If that's the case, Microsoft have already shot their chance at competing directly with Nintendo dead by supporting the Switch 2.
On the other side of things, Sony doesn't have the sheer brand power that Nintendo has, especially since Sony has spent the past decade ensuring their games come out as bland and generic as possible. The only game they've made that even holds a candle to Nintendo's level of charm and quality is Astro Bot, and it's unlikely a sequel will be coming out any time soon(Astro Bot only recently released). If Sony really wants to challenge Nintendo at their own game, they're going to have to step up in a big way, and considering they just incurred humongous losses chasing the live service trend, a move like that is more than likely to bankrupt them.
The truth of the matter is that the entire games industry has been chasing fool's gold for so long, that Nintendo got the chance to become the king of the industry without anyone even noticing. It's basically Nintendo's game to lose at this point, and they're positioning themselves to dominate the industry for at least another 10 years.
Yeah - Phil has been a fan of Nintendo and I guess he really wanted to take over Reggie's job, but that damn Bowser took the princess away ...
Agreed, aside from stating that Sony would go bankrupt over their console sales.
Yeah they can get pushed out, just like Microsoft is, but both of them are not only videogame companies, Sony is huge on the electronics market, and Microsoft owns the biggest computer Operating System in the world, MacOS/Linux don't come close. Doubt that closing out the gaming segment would make their tech empires fall so easily.
But yeah, maybe in 10 years time we will see Sony taking the same route Microsoft is, their gaming segment becomes a glorified game publisher, PS6 and Xbox-something are the last consoles they make to try and appease their diminishing audience, and Nintendo takes over the console segment for good.
This take is so biased and uniformed it's hilarious.
Those who underestimate their opponent often lose to them. I mean that's exactly why Nintendo is in this position to begin with. They underestimated Playstation and later XBOX so much they dropped their attempts to compete with them starting with the Wii and devised a strategy that appealed to niche audiences and quirky features.
If they do that again the will lose their supposed dominance of the portal and handheld market.
@@theumbralwalker1824 Sony is the largest console maker on the planet, they are not at all in danger of shuttering their console division. The portable console will take on a PSP or Vita role and be the offshoot to their mainline console brand. The ONLY reason Sony would drop their console market share (again, the largest in the industry) is if they jump aboard the PC train. The future of gaming is a two path future. PC ( and PC emulation) gaming and mobile gaming.
Nintendo works as well as they do because they cornered a niche market and keep to themselves in it and their staunch refusal to loan their IPs to third parties. It's low cost, low overhead but it is not daring nor ambitious and it limits growth and profit massively. It will not save them in the future if they don't take chances. Playing it safe is a good way to maintain the status quo before going extinct. They can straddle the line between mobile and PC gaming but eventually they will have to make a choice and that choice will determine whether their console making days continue or not.
Nintendo is also weirdly behind the times on many things due to their leadership, that will have to change as well if they don't want to become the next Sega or Atari.
@@scottb3034 I mean - the only sold like 255 million units between the DS and the Wii, so maybe they didn't exactly loose ...
I was NOT expecting the yiga clan sponsorship and bursted out laughing
The Switch 2 will ultimately drive more sales for the Switch since the latter will be viewed as an affordable entry-level option to the Nintendo library.
Yes, there will be games that utilize Switch 2 features, but developers won't pass up the chance to sell to an already established player base.
In some sense, the Switch 2 will appeal to dedicated fans looking for better, smoother performance out of the existing library while making the regular Switch more economically appealing to newer audiences.
So the situation we're in is not exactly like going from the Wii to Wii U, where it's a completely different console, but also not exactly like the 2DS to 3DS, where it's just the same console with more performance/features.
The Switch 2 moreso serves as an extension of the Switch product line while also having its own exclusive library. Like a hybrid... hybrid console.
It's rare that backwards compatibility keeps the previous generation alive. All the new and exciting games will be made for the new hardware; it's just a nice feature to prevent making playing old games a hassle for established players and an extra selling point for those who sat the generation out.
Of course the difference between the hardware is much more minute than what going to the Playstation 2 brought back in the day. Hence why the Playstation 5 is the 'no thanks' console with no games. But the Switch 2 will... have some exclusive games.
Things are going to get weird in the coming decade.
Missed opportunity to call the Switch 2 the "SUPER Nintendo Switch".
no…
And miss gems such as "Super Super Mario Bros"
Honestly even if The Xbox Handhled and Playstation Portable 3 does come out, with Xbox slowly going 3rd party game Playstation cancelling games more than releasing games, i have no doubt Saitch 2 will dominant the 10th generation.
Its main competition might be pc condole hybrids that boast more freedom in usage than the switch
That's not how the gaming market is. Nintendo and Sony don't compete, they inhabit different niches. PC dominates the competitive and hardcore gaming scene, Playstation is the budget hardcore scene that appeals to the widest gaming audience and Nintendo inhabits the portable, kid friendly, family-oriented, low cost, casual and Nintendo die-hard scenes.
Nintendo bowed out of Playstation's category rather than continue to compete with them and have maintained the quirky, niche market since the release of the WII. PS has slowly driven out all of its competitors except PC and PC will never go away.
@@scottb3034 Pc isn't in the console Gaming it's it's own thing, and the only thing Nintendo "bowed" to sony is in Power
But in Games Exclusives sales and more Nintendo dominated Sony this Generation
@@BowserEditz PC occupies the same habitat as XBOX and Sony console gaming. I just said its a more hardcore version of it. But they overlap at about a 95% rate. It very much is not its own thing.
And Nintendo bowed out on more than just power. The last time they operated as a traditional console developer was with Gamecube where they got smashed by PS2 which became the best-selling console ever for 20 years and had unparalleled game support.
Nintendo saw the writing on the wall and opted out of being a direct competitor with Sony and MS.
BTW, Nintendo BETTER have won the games exclusives sales, they better have for the past 3 generations since that is about 90% of their game sales and the only reason anyone purchases their systems. That's also why they hang onto Mario, Pokemon and Zelda for dear life as exclusives and shut down emulation of every one of their old games. Because as soon as the genie is out of the bottle Nintendo will be annihilated by PC and PS.
Also, by what metric are we comparing Nintendo's supposed dominance over Sony this generation? Console sales? The switch is 2 generations old, they better have more consoles sold and PS5 was hamstrung by a semi-conductor shortage in addition to being 400 dollars more expensive. Critical reception on games? Sony had dominated the yearly consensus, with Breath of the Wild being Nintendo's last big win in that.
Every other Nintendo console is just an either better or more experimental version of the previous console. SNES is basically the NES with better graphics, and more polished 2D style gameplay. N64 was Nintendo’s first 3D console and the GameCube was a more refined version of that. The Wii introduced motion controls to add some immersion to games, and the Wii U used the same controllers plus the gamepad for even more immersion and was in HD. Switch 2 looks like a Switch with more horsepower, but that’s all it really needed tbh.
Honestly yeah
The nintendo switch is pretty solid to stay for another hole decade
Obviously adding some extra features like the mouse function which looks pretty interesting of how they could use it for a future mario maker
Even it would be ironically one of the best console games to play pc games for that function
Feature like that over the great original design would be enough for everyone
Which isn't a good thing at all.
0:47 - Thought it would be worth pointing out that while that is true for PlayStation and Xbox, that is not true for Nintendo, unlike Sony and Microsoft Nintendo do not typically sell their consoles at a loss, they do make a profit off of each console sold with the only exceptions being the 3DS (after the price cut) and the Wii U.
I think Sony and Microsoft forgot that they need to release games to make a profit 🫨
@@jackatk that would be apt and funny if that's what the OP said.
The reason Nintendo makes a profit while those don't is because of the modest hardware specs that make it easy to suppress price points and drive sales for a profit.
Switch is using PS3 and XBOX360 level hardware to keep costs down. And Nintendo's abstained from competing in a hardware way for 20 years. It's also why they can't run games at 60 FPS, they don't support 4k, they have stripped down features in 3rd party games, etc.
Also, it's kind of funny you criticize these other companies for their games when Nintendo has relied on the same dozen IPs to sell games for decades and has had diminishing returns with the likes of Pokemon among others. And their other issues to squeeze money out of the consumer while alienating their biggest fans. Let's forget that the best selling games of all-time are not Nintendo games, but Microsoft and/or Sony games like Minecraft, GTA, etc. And the most popular console ever made was the PS2.
Fanboy on though.
@@scottb3034
First of all Switch does Support 60fps stop lying, 2nd you're literally not even making sense
Nintendo releasing games on weaker hardware doesn't justify Playstation and Xbox not doing the same on their hardware they did it with PS4 and One they should be able to do it with PS5 and Series X|S
Stop trying to justify Playstation and Xbox not having Exclusives and Playstation chasing Live Service Slop for an entire console generation
The only fanboy here is you rn
@@BowserEditz Switch does not fully support FPS. LOL it didn't support it ever in handheld mode, only while docked and its flagship games certainly didn't play at 60 FPS consistently or at all, and definitely not while rendered at 1080p. Breath of the Wild was 900p and 30 FPS max. This is not a lie, this is public record. Switch didn't have the horsepower without severe compromises in some form.
What are you talking about? Sony and MS don't have the same mission statement as Nintendo. Their goals were to push hardware specs as far as possible while keeping the console affordable. Nintendo hasn't been about that since Game Cube. They made repeated, massive cuts to their specs to keep an insanely low price point which is what drives their sales and market share interest. Their cheaping out on the hardware with outdated technology is why they can sell consoles for a profit at launch vs MS and Sony. They just make it up tenfold with game sales because they flat out sell a larger portfolio of games each generation.
Nintendo was hemorrhaging money until the switch game along,. They had a 7 year lull in profits and in stock prices at the tail end of the Wii and all of Wii U's lifetime. These are documented facts. They were a failed Switch console away from bowing out of the console market completely ala Sega.
Sony and Microsoft have exclusives.... like what? God of War, Last of Us, Halo, Horizon Zero Dawn, Gran Turismo, Forza, Indiana Jones, Astrobot, Uncharted, Spider-Man, Ghost of Tsushima, etc. It just doesn't comprise 80% of their profits so they aren't so protective of the IPs that they don't cross-platform it years down the road (except Halo).
Somehow I'm the fanboy here. LOL
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My man nobody is gonna read your essay if you insult them at the end of it lmaoo
Knowing Nintendo the console after the Switch 2 is probably going to have something crazy that will change gaming forever, especially if the next generation of gaming is just as bad as the 9th generation what is very likely to happen with the 10th generation, this is just speculation but that feels like something Nintendo would do
Like bringing back dual screen gaming and adding back gamecube style analog triggers. Maybe all the buttons are capacitive along side that
@flamestoyershadowkill Maybe that, maybe something completely different, you never know it with Nintendo
@@Shadow-Joop-157 ar glasses are the only other thing i can think of.
They are certainly the masters of both console- and game development.
@@JonathanWillow-zz7rb Game development? Kind of. They have managed to squeeze good games out of the same dozen IPs for decades but console development? No. They are a master of finding a niche that is unaffected by competitors and settling in it.
They haven't been masters of consoles in 20 years otherwise.
This is the first time a Nintendo console has used the "2" in its title.
Bro The 2DS,New 2DS,2DS XL,And New 2DS XL,Remember?
...as a version number
Shoutout to the fluidity OST!
@@laxter882 you recognized it!
I am very excited about Switch 2 and will consider buying one at launch if it isn't above 400 bucks. I owned my Switch Lite for 5 years and have got so much enjoyment and time out from it, and it has 0 issues despite me taking it a lot of places with me. Idc if people argue that the other consoles are better than the Switch because I enjoy the portability, hassle free UI, and the multi-player options you get with it.
5:48 Unlike the others, Nintendo users are used to not having the best graphics.
I believe the Switch 2 will be a success. It will have lots of awesome games. I can't wait for the direct.
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I still call it a missed opportunity that they called it the Wii U instead of the Wii 2…because Japanese “two” would have just been epic for the English speakers.
I think the Switch 2 has more in common with Nintendo´s portables progression rather than the home consoles progression. It´s weird but for the first time Nintendo is not going to release a new home console but a portable console, as it seems, home consoles as we knew are going to be extinct sooner than later.
The future is mobile gaming and PC gaming. Consoles will eventually phase out. Looks as though Nintendo is leaning into Mobile gaming. We'll see how well that goes for them. They are as healthy as they are because no one bothers to be a serious challenger at the moment.
Well if anything this video gives me nostalgia for all those snes commercials I saw when they first came out.
Seems like its just repeating the same cycle of its handheld predecessors:
GB/C - GBA
DS/Lite - DSi/3DS
Leak: switch 2 will be backwards compatible with physical snes games
Also Sega Saturn games according to the one who is to be blindly believed. And it comes with kettle corn.
It’s kinda crazy to think about how many cult classics were on the SNES. Some of those games are still in GOAT discussions
SNES was the sweet spot of technology for 2D games to flourish. NES was too limited and after that all the talent moved on to 3D.
I’m fine with the name as is. Not everything needs to be innovative to be good. The Wii U being a prime example; the name and teaser killed any chances of that thing succeeding.
All it needs is better durability and hardware that’s on par with a PS4 Pro or the Xbox One X and it’ll get plenty of third-party support like last time, possibly even more.
5:58 Whoever made this image should be ashamed of themselves for listing Sword/Shield as a positive
I always thought the perfect switch successor was just… a new switch. I always felt the switch was such a huge staple that Nintendo would have to be stupid to not double down with improvements, and all I could think about was how the NES went to the SNES
Nintendo : not enough innovation? Introducing R4/L4 and R5/L5 button.. now you can push button with all your fingers..
Honestly, if a controller could make that feel good itd be pretty cool lol
@violent8931 So literally what the Steam Deck did!?
I don't know if addition of more buttons is very practical though. Like, we are going to have games with a lot more action to do at the same time... it might get confusing.
Already has it for the detached joycons there just isn't a grip for its usage as a regular controller, nintendo should just add in dual stage analog triggers plus sr2 and sl2 buttons and make every single button both analog and capacitive.
I noticed how much worse games like Hogwarts Legacy looked in the switch vs ps5 version. I wonder how much it will improve graphics over the Switch.
Any games made for 10x more powerful hardware will look worse on Switch
I mean, the PS5 is a whole generation ahead, of course its gonna look better
@fgvcosmic6752Two generations ahead
Switch is on par with or probably a little more powerful than PS3 and 360.
and it's also similar to the Wii U, 3DS, Gameboy Advance. It's just the nintendo strategy with a new brand
Funny enough, i brought myself a Super Nintendo even though i saw the trailer of the Switch 2. I mean im a collector and have a Genesis.but its amazing how your comparing these two, i have the support and hope for the switch 2 becoming a sucess inthe future.
You don't know how excited I'd be if Nintendo made another Yoshi's Island game for the Switch 2. That along with Pokémon ORAS count for my top 5 favorite games of all time.
loved the frankly, 10/10 video, forgot what it was about
Nintendo dosn't sell their consoles at a loss
Was gonna say. I'm fairly sure they cheapen on components such that they sell at a profit
They sold the Wii U at a loss
And after looking into it, so was the GameCube. I’ve also seen some vague things about the snes being sold at a loss.
@fgvcosmic6752 They are going for an lcd this time rather than an oled. While it'll look worse it makes sense if they are trying to cut corners to make the system cheaper. Besides lcd tech has gotten better since 2017 now in 2025 it just looks slightly worse than oled screens. This is just one example though
@@minecrafter3448They sell consoles at a loss when they're in a bad situation and they tend not to sell at a loss very long. When 3DS came out, sales were slow. They lowered the price and took a loss for a little while and were back not selling at a loss pretty quick.
I'm not sure if they ever stopped selling at a loss with Wii U.
5:42 I think the Steam Deck is their biggest competition here
A few months back I cut this type of thought out of my Nintendo rant. It went like “Nintendo repeats their creations in a certain order depending on if the previous system was received well or not”. hope I still have that script somewhere.
Consoles aren't designed to sell games. They're being designed to sell subscriptions. You will own nothing and you will like it.
Most of Nintendo’s money comes from game sales
He did it... I cant belive it.
Still missed the perfect opportunity to call it the “Super Nintendo Switch” lmao
There's no need to worry man this is Nintendo we're talking about, they've always prioritized fun over everything else about a video game 👍🏽
And of course the most important contributor to console success are none other than the games and their quality. But I guess Nintendo has already taken care about that with all the specific game franchises being excusive to them. The question is only how much better and innovative can they be over these from its predecessor.
Ive been saying this since the reveal, this is history repeating itself. Switch 2 has the spirit of the Snes, which was one of the consoles i grew up with. I like to see Nintendo have a console that can actually play 3rd party games. I absolutely hated the Wii/Wii U Era trash, its good to see Nintendo return to true form.
Feel like i was the only one hoping they'd call it the super switch instead of switch 2
I personally think it's a missed opportunity to call it the super switch
I would suggest that a lot of Switch owners have some physical kit like a travel case but also have a lot of games, the console has been around for quite a while. Those games work fine on the Switch. If you're hoping to be blown away by Switch 2 games that really use the power of the new system, you'll be waiting a while, look at the PS5. There will always be people that just go out and buy the latest but I'll wait for a year or so and stick with my current library until then.
2:10 exactly, the switch 2 feels a lot more necessary that a PlayStation 6
@@eduardomartins4535 well that's easy to say when we don't know what's going on with a PS6 yet.
@ thats easy to say when Sony Said the PS5 was their last console and we have not seen a scretch of what his true potencial
@@eduardomartins4535 they haven't said that. the only news regarding anything like that is the removal of a disc drive and that's been in discussion since the PS4 era. But Sony was at least going through with PS6 and probably a PS7 before they make any decision on the future of their incredibly lucrative video game hardware division.
Nintendo don't sell consoles at a loss. I wonder if they will make an exception if they have to. You do not want to go past $400
@@RetroCheats they won't have to because they don't try to compete with PC and Sony or Xbox. So they can hang back a generation in graphical and technical power to suppress part costs and thus keep the price point down for profit.
@@scottb3034 we don't know the cost of older technology. What do you think could charge the switch 1, since it's very old technology? $100? $200?
If they're making at least $100 profit off the switch, then it will be easier to keep it $400 for the switch 2
Great video! Very polished
The SNES was an extremely noticeable upgrade in every single area over the NES, from the graphics and audio to the controller, and very clearly a brand new next generation Nintendo console at the time, whereas the Switch 2 is more like a Switch Pro if you're not paying real attention to the differences and in some ways even if you are imo. I think the Switch 2 currently feels more like going from PS2 to PS3/PS3 to PS4/PS4 to PS5 or like the GB to GBC than NES to SNES to be honest. But the Switch 2 might mirror the SNES in terms of selling less than the Switch while still being totally beloved and maybe even more so than the Switch in many ways, if Nintendo actually delivers on what everyone expects from a Switch 2. I really hope Nintendo delivers.
I want a new mainline single player 3D Mario game for Switch 2. Maybe a Sunshine like gimmick. Maybe Yoshi returns.
I just wish they had called it "Super Nintendo Switch"
Its more in line with the GC to Wii, as the switch 2 (for all intensive purposes) is simply a much more powerful switch 1. They are both running a similar ARM cpu, with more ram, and supports the same media cartridges, and fully backwards compatible. The NES\SNES ran totally different hardware, and the SNES was criticized by parents in the early 90s that it couldn't play the old games. Nintendo addressed this with the DS handheld line.
It's me or Nintendo didn't use the touch screen for their games on Switch?
The original switch probably has another three years in it.
That was well put together. You are a true Nintendo fan:)
Another thing the Sfc+Snes combined did not do was outsell the Fc+Nes combined sells
Fc+Nes = 61.91 Million units sold
Sfc+Snes = 49.1 Million units sold
I think the same will happend with the Nintendo Switch 2 and that it will not outsell the Nintendo Switch 1
Nintendo Switch 1 = 150.89 Million units sold
Nintendo don't sell consoles at a loss. Only the WiiU was ever sold at a loss, which is not surprising because it streamed video wirelessly to the gamepad screen. The gamepad had a built-in camera, microphone, NFC reader, speakers, and gyroscope/accelerometer, it was quite a technological marvel really. But anyway Nintendo don't sell consoles at a loss, if they never sold any games at all they would still make a profit on the consoles.
When they announced the Switch 2 I said it should have been called the Super Switch
I don't see a strong similarity.
The SNES wasn't backwards compatible, and people DID complain about that back in the day (my parents did). It wasn't so much a "I can't play my game library", but more so, "this new game can't play on my old NES? Why?" Many felt they were being forced to by a new console- and many purchasers, who were often parents, didn't understand.
The SNES was also a huge graphical leap from the NES. going from 8 bit to 16 bit was huge, making even the best games on the NES looking subpart to even low level SNES games.
Yes, I think the Switch 2 will be successful, but I don't think it will have the cultural impact of the SNES.
It's crazy how people keep talking about Wii U name being the main problem so Nintendo should play it safe this time just imagine how beautiful would Super Switch SNES sound it would be a tribute to its glorious history but no let's name it Nintendo switch 2 pro max ultra so people will not mistake it with switch
Super Nintendo was fun to play games like street fighter mortal combat
I think Metroid Prime 4 will be a Twilight Princess or BOTW situation where it’ll be on the switch, and be a launch title for the Switch 2z
These days the differences in hardware between systems are almost meaningless since they are all very powerful. Even the current Switch is “good enough” to play most games, even pretty heavy FPSs like Doom Eternal, which is impressive for a handheld system.
I wish they called it the super switch rather than the generic switch 2
Great video!
Dead internet theory
I really wish they called it the Super Nintendo Switch 😭😭
They shoulda called it the Super Switch.
That’s not a good idea
The Fluidity music through me off.
Yall need to let go of the Wii U, it hasn’t even come out yet and people are already saying history is repeating itself, wait until it actually launches then we’ll see if this is just another Wii U situation, just be patient
They should’ve just called it the Super Nintendo Switch
I think people should really stop lying to themselves and calling the Switch 1/2 a hybrid console because It's just a portable gaming console with a dock that's bigger than it's actually necessary to make it seem like something it isn't. That whole dock has been condensed to as little as a charging brick many times before by third parties. Nintendo cheaped out when they made the first Switch and made what they always did best, portable consoles. The only difference is that these are more powerful and connect to the TV. No one ever called the Sega Nomad or the PSP Go "hybrids" just because they allow you to connect to the TV.
Still wish it was called the super switch or ultra switch
I disagree with your name sugestion. The Switch 2 is spot on. Your other points I agree with, positive and otherwise. I Think Nintendo will nail this next gen progression like they nailed this gen.
Given the SNES is better than the NES
"i see this as an absolute win!"
Switch earned money on the system itself.
Great Video Ren i never grew up with the Snes before back in the early 2000s except for the GameCube Wii Wii U and other handheld consoles but you do have a point about the Switch being simpler than the SNES just repeating it self with a newer one i am looking forward to the Future games for the Switch 2 & Mario Kart 9
The problem with the analogy of console selling at a loss doesn't apply to Nintendo because they always sell their console for a profit. The switch 2 power is equivalent to a ps4 and is speculated to cost more than the switch 1.
Although you can convince me that a switch 2 will be better than switch 1. I don’t believe for a second that it would outsell switch 1, Nintendo needs to play the safe route and offer some cross platform games across their generation of systems. I do worry that switch 2 would have more expensive games and online however. I also wish Nintendo would be more multiplatform, even though that’s like wishing pigs would fly.
Toad town music Paper Mario The Origami King
Framerate performance directly impacts gameplay and feel, the whole experience, is not just "more power" for the sake of it. Is not like graphics.
Bro, they just doing what they already did… Nintendo DS, DSi And 3DS… Helloooo anyone??
My biggest concern with power and performance on the Switch 1 wasn't framerates or resolution; I mostly play it in handheld mode, and a graphical issue has got to be pretty glaring to stand out on the small screen. No, my biggest performance problem is load-times, especially in ports of third-party games. I had to basically abandon runs of Doom 2016 and Pillars of Eternity due to the painful load times.
Of course, the SNES is one of the GOATs.
SNES BEST GAME LIBRARY EVER!!! if Switch 2 will have all retro and new games it will become SNES 2.0 REMASTERED
Nintendo should add back analog triggers
THAT'S why they should've called it the Super Nintendo Switch smh
Wasted opportunity
I'm so sick of the nintendo children acting like it's okay for graphics and performance to fall dead last on the list. The switch resolution was complete garbage and the lack of anti-aliasing just highlighted that. Even then it managed to drop in frame rate, it's performance all around is embarrassing. Many games couldn't even be downgraded enough to be ported to it.
I'm so tired of nintendo being the only potato trying to be snowflake. They got drunk off the Wii's success and still think dumb gimmicks are the only way forward. We didn't need a sloppy marriage between a Wii and a gameboy or """hd""" rumble, but here we are.
Ive only seen your streams but this is good video 👍
You’re going down the exact same rabbit hole I went down a month ago
I can’t see a lot of similarities. Switch 2 is a polish evolution of switch 1 with more power.
SNES had a lot bigger visual gap / improvement over the NES also advances is both design and features of the gamepads. Which switch 2 really don’t have
The design is more iterative, but I can see some similarities. The Switch, like the Super NES, is part of the same "family" of platforms. SNES was part of the Family Computer/Nintendo Entertainment line. The changes aren't as dramatic, but the jump from Switch 1 to Switch 2 is not terribly different than the jump from 8 to 16-bit. 8-bit to 16 was still largely a 2D game landscape. Most titles were either top down 2D RPGs, 2D shmups, 2D fighters, and 2D platformers. We had more 3D games than we used to, but nothing near the quantum leap games took when the 64 came out.
We still had largely the same games, just bigger and better titles. Super Castlevania 4, a bigger and better version of the other classicvanias, Contra 3, a more badas$ sequel of Super C and Contra 1, Gradius 3, still a 2D shmup, but a much harder version.
I would say this generation of Switch 2 looks a lot more like SNES than their other generations. Wii had virtually no improvements, and GCN/N64 had nowhere near the third party support.
This generation, like 8 to 16, will not be not a quantum leap in the way the 5th gen was. It will be iterative, but the games will look better, play better, and there's room for titles that couldn't possibly run on Switch 1.
And I would say Switch 1 is like the NES of modern Nintendo consoles. It basically revitalized the handheld industry, and really was a trailblazer in indie game dev support and other small devs like the Octopath and Bravely studios. It not only cornered a market, it damn near monopolized it. Instead of being the usual background character in the industry, Nintendo is the market leader.
Like the SNES, i don't see Nintendo reaching these heights with the successor, but I can see them continuing to be the market leader for a while, if not at least equal with other platforms in market share and third party support.
I predict that Switch 2 will not sell as many units as the original, however it will very much be sucessful. Indeed, much like it was with NES and SNES and not Wii and Wii U. There are many factors at play but there's one reason primary reason - Nintendo no longer has proper competition. PS5 is definitely in decline and Xbox fares even worse. I woud predict that Microsoft will sooner quit the console business rather than release a new one. Games are properly cathered to specific niches and Nintendo garnerst the largest population of gamers. Maybe Sony will release PS6 but I wouldn't expect it to be much of a competitor, but rather an alternative option for games with more tech requirements. Now, compare it to the situation of Wii U in 2012/2013 - Sony and Microsoft, even though lost to Wii, still held a strong position in the market with PS3 and X360. And new revolutionary PS4 was just around the corner, which was the best console of its era and we know why. 3DS did better, primarily because of its local, Japanese market which loves handhelds. And now Switch basically joins both portability and high quality of gaming. It sequel is going to continue that trend. Only thing Nintendo has to do is to offer it at some affordable price and it is bound to succeed.
You clearly don't know much about Nintendo.. they NEVER sell consoles at a loss, they INSIST on making a profit off their hardware. You're confusing Nintendo with Sony and Microsoft.
Nintendo has and will always sell hardware at a profit if they can help it.. unless there is a market change.. they sell at a profit..
I just wanna know how you people got so confused with the Wii U but not the 3ds and Snes. like even as a kid i knew it was a new console but thas prolly cuz i first saw it on a commercial and not the internet. But thats even saying something
@jonathanwade3882 Iker , the ppl claiming they didn't know the wii u was a new console and not just an add on for the wii are talking out of their arse lol
The even numbered Nintendo consoles all have similarities I feel. They have always felt like a more refined experience both in terms of hardware and software. Build quality also is generally better, NES to SNES is a good example, but also look at the difference between the N64 and Gamecube controllers.
I can kind of see what people mean when they say they can see commonalities between the Wii U and Switch 2 but I think they mostly come down to following this 'even number pattern'. The Switch 2 will likely sell worse than Switch 1 but it won't bomb like the Wii U did. I think Nintendo in 2012 were in a uniquely terrible position where they had to choose between creating a direct competitor to the PS4 and Xbox 1 or aiming primarily to maintain their Wii audience with a somewhat gimmicky console. They chose the latter and it didn't work out, but I'm not convinced the former would have been a roaring success either. Releasing something like the Switch in 2012-13 was not an option as the hardware either didn't exist or wasn't cheap enough at the time.
Super switch should have been the name.