Charli & Dixie D’Amelio Have It Worse Than You Think... w/

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  • @KuncanDastner
    @KuncanDastner 3 роки тому +781

    Practicing my renegade as we speak

  • @hildahilda1823
    @hildahilda1823 3 роки тому +1854

    I wish people would protect them similarly to the way Billie Eilish’s fans protected her when she was underage. It really breaks me down to see kids treated like adults when thrust into this “adult position” that they didn’t even ask for.

    • @senalikarunatilake5210
      @senalikarunatilake5210 3 роки тому +70

      I think their fan base is much more different than bliie eilish. Id say its much more volatile. Say if they did something unappealing to their fan base(like the case of dixie not being appreciative enough on their personal chef's prepared food) they will turn against them.

    • @suoutubez19
      @suoutubez19 3 роки тому +33

      Agreed. And the public in general is so damn hostile to these girls . There is so much anger thrown their way along with hyper criticism and it’s just so intense.

    • @hildahilda1823
      @hildahilda1823 3 роки тому +2

      @@suoutubez19 literally like they’re fucking children and they’re being spoken to worse than Jeff Bezos who’s actually a shitty person and old enough and established enough to take that kind of heat.

    • @hildahilda1823
      @hildahilda1823 3 роки тому +22

      @@senalikarunatilake5210 that’s the worst part too. There will always be people who flip flop sides even when they claim to love and support a creator (which is their right to do) but as you said it seems far more volatile in the case of these girls. Like when Billie started wearing more “adult” clothing and styles, ofc there were people who had negative things to say but the overall reaction was one of positivity amongst her fans. With Charlie and Dixie though it seems like they’re always just one spark away from a raging forest fire in terms of public reaction and that has to wear on you

    • @zd7829
      @zd7829 3 роки тому +21

      But Charli and Dixie have a fandom that is mostly 8 to 13 years old they are not wise enough to protect them, considering they are children themselves, while Billie had a pretty large following of all ages.

  • @iremturkmen374
    @iremturkmen374 3 роки тому +823

    its a bril point by kuncan when he asked if people would treat her the same if she was 30. the tendency to cringe on and bully teenage girls cant make it any easier on charli, being a teenage girl with lots of teenage fans

    • @itsgabibelle
      @itsgabibelle  3 роки тому +59

      so so true!!!

    • @clegs8356
      @clegs8356 3 роки тому +2

      oh absolutely. like, at some point teens aren't as comfortable spewing hatred to people twice their age, because there still seems to be SOME baseline respect there..? But teenage girls are always fair game, their hobbies and interests are always inherently "stupid" - maybe because we're so invested in teaching them to feel worthless while they're young so that they grow into meek, submissive women, to pose less of a threat, perpetuating patriarchal constructs.... yikes.

    • @elainawisdom-peters2634
      @elainawisdom-peters2634 2 роки тому +9

      I also think a guy would get less hate.

    • @bsings7928
      @bsings7928 2 роки тому +4

      @@elainawisdom-peters2634 maybe though I do see a lot of hate for TikTok Eboys or f-boys. However that’s usually a criticism of their content and completely unrelated to their other accomplishments unlike the damelios.

    • @bananawitchcraft
      @bananawitchcraft 2 роки тому +9

      I think there's a high degree of sexism involved that causes mistreatment of female celebrities regardless of their age. But for teenage girls you get the intersection of sexism and ageism, which can definitely exacerbate things.
      ...There is a lot of overlap between negative stereotypes about women and young people: e.g. that they are ignorant, shallow, less skilled, and reliant on their looks. Misogynist rhetoric is often infantilizing. So these stereotypes can be doubly reinforced in attitudes toward young women.

  • @rVnsunshine
    @rVnsunshine 3 роки тому +555

    I think also we can hate what they represent- exploitation of poor/regular people, the lie of meritocracy, eyc., but it’s not really fair to direct that hate AT these girls. After all, they didn’t watch their own tiktoks 30 million times- we gave them that money, clout, and power. The system is the issue here, not literal children who happened to be the statistical outliers who succeeded through it.

    • @ArturGlass.C
      @ArturGlass.C 2 роки тому +16

      Exactly what I was about to say thank you. I think people take out their aggression on people who represent wealth because they feel our justice system is flawed and it makes them feel powerless. The problem is in the way we view justice at being a punishment rather than a teaching moment. It leads people's reaction to witnessing the privilege from exploitation to be angry and abusive towards the people who benefit from it.

    • @bsings7928
      @bsings7928 2 роки тому +4

      Also important to criticize the parents who are agents / media managers and foisted their children into the spotlight

    • @Viivek2309
      @Viivek2309 2 роки тому

      How is she responsible for "exploitation of poor/ normal people"?

  • @gargles5270
    @gargles5270 2 роки тому +655

    being raised by the internet really just surgically removed a lot of people’s empathy

    • @whims6278
      @whims6278 2 роки тому +14

      The most underrated observation of the decade

    • @cindyluwho2703
      @cindyluwho2703 2 роки тому +28

      After observing how a lot of older people act in my own life, I think people were always like this. But instead of saying these things within your community you can now say them to the entire world and even directly to the creator.

    • @abcrx32j
      @abcrx32j 2 роки тому +7

      Do you really think people had empathy before the internet?

    • @gargles5270
      @gargles5270 2 роки тому +3

      @@abcrx32j yes? either way, the internet certainly doesn’t help people be kinder

    • @abcrx32j
      @abcrx32j 2 роки тому +3

      @@gargles5270 Them think again, history shows that caring about others' feelings or interests has never been the main focus of society

  • @SuperSireBoyYT
    @SuperSireBoyYT 2 роки тому +151

    Honestly i hate the demonization of cringe on the internet. A lot of people treat being cringe as some sort of crime, when being “cringe” is just human nature. We do weird crap sometimes

    • @jasperjazzie
      @jasperjazzie Рік тому +9

      exactly, especially since a lot of "cringe" is young people, that's just part of growin up, you experiment with things you like or are interested in, some of which might seem weird or silly
      like, wtf was that whole jellybean situation a while back, ppl legit tried to cancel them because they were 14 and acted 14
      like, there's grown ass ppl makin fun of teenagers because they do stuff teenagers do, and i'm sure those people did the same things but there just wasn't a platform for the world to see the cringey things you do

  • @haleyd7448
    @haleyd7448 3 роки тому +1032

    tbh i don't even think it's worth emphasizing that rich white people can have depression too. i completely agree that they're teenagers and should not have to worry about public scrutiny, but that's why their wealth is part of the problem. they didn't ask for this platform or this fame or money, and they were too young to fully comprehend what an exploitative industry they were walking into anyway. their wealth was made by a bunch of money hungry adults looking to cash in on a viral success, which is why i don't think they're depressed IN SPITE of their wealth, i think in a lot of ways it's BECAUSE of it.
    i think celebrities have a uniquely complicated burden. they have a terrible work/life balance, and work in an industry with far less protections and oversight and regulations than most other jobs. they signed up just to perform their talents, but have to give up their privacy and endure bullying too. then they're compensated by being given an absurd amount of money that no single individual person deserves, as if that makes it all fair. and it's so much worse for child stars because they aren't even old enough to consent to that kind of burden.
    in general though, i think it's important to acknowledge that class, wealth and privilege absolutely factor into depression. being wealthy is a choice. you can give up your wealth whenever you want, you can afford better mental healthcare, you can afford to move to a better country, you can afford security, you can afford not to even work at all. but if you're broke, you not only can't afford to treat your depression, but you don't even have control over the circumstances that are contributing to your depression.

    • @itsgabibelle
      @itsgabibelle  3 роки тому +202

      yes! it's so incredibly nuanced and messy, and can be a double edged sword. you're much more eloquent than me!!

    • @haleyd7448
      @haleyd7448 3 роки тому +60

      @@itsgabibelle girl no i loved the way you conveyed everything!! i just always pounce on class differences 🥴 and with so many average americans shielding celebrities like alec baldwin or trump or chappelle from any accountability or consequences, i just feel like this country needs to go on a little empathy for the wealthy detox right now lol

    • @jenm1
      @jenm1 2 роки тому +16

      based and anti capitalist pilled

    • @seyeon_knee
      @seyeon_knee 2 роки тому +10

      yes! its also worth noting that the publicity also factors into a lot of the mental health issues that many wealthy, famous people experience. A normal person, or even a nameless wealthy person, with a job not in the public eye can clock out and go home, off duty. But a famous person who has a job in the public eye can never fully be off duty. You can't clock out from the public eye once you're in it. It can definitely lead to mental breakdowns and erratic behavior which then lead to more publicity and in turn, more public scrutiny. So many people have such little sympathy for wealthy and famous people, which leads to resentment and mischaracterization/invalidation of mental health struggles a lot of the time.
      Wealth and fame are completely different monsters, even if they often go hand in hand. A wealthy person can go unnoticed in the public eye and not suffer from the same mental health struggles that constant fame can cause. A famous person can never escape the cameras and the fans and the publicity. That environment is so damaging for a young person to be in, even if everyone around them is morally upright and not taking advantage of them.
      In the case where a celebrity is taken advantage of, they can't even really speak out about it much or defend themself because if they act in a way that can be perceived as disrespectful, ungrateful, or in any way inappropriate, they will face huge backlash and be blamed for their problems. This creates a cycle of abuse that allows the corrupt industry to keep taking advantage of the famous people and keep the celebrities under their thumbs to "protect them from mental health struggles".
      That's partially why so many child stars grow up to have such horrible mental health struggles and why people should not be allowed to enter the public eye until they're old enough to consent to it with full understanding of what comes with fame. Unreasonable amounts of wealth do not make up for the damage done by fame. You're left sitting there with no one to trust, no privacy, no lenience for any issues or mistakes, no time off work, but of course your problems aren't "real' because you have a buttload of money. So many famous people get terrible advice from "trusted advisors" telling them not to seek proper mental health treatments because erratic behavior brings publicity which brings money to the celebrity and thus to the team and advisors.
      Overall, it's pretty gross. This industry literally fosters mental health struggles in a way that wealth doesn't. Wealth can be a benefit in dealing with mental health struggles, but if the lifestyle and /or industry doesn't allow the mental health treatment to work the way it should, then the money doesn't serve as much to help.
      People with immense wealth can afford to get better mental health treatments, move to better places, etc, but if there's an aspect of fame that undoes all that progress towards a better mental state, then you don't have control over the aspects that cause your depression. It's also very true that broke people can't afford the mental health solutions that wealthy people can, and thus don't have control over what causes their depression either. These are two completely different issues that end up in the same negative result. Going too far on either end of the wealth spectrum can lead to the same result. It's a strange situation to be sure.

    • @haleyd7448
      @haleyd7448 2 роки тому +10

      @@seyeon_knee I agree with you for the most part!! But with the exception of child stars, celebrities under conservatorships, or the royal family - situations where their own family restricts their privacy and autonomy - wealth still gives celebrities more control over their circumstances than poor people have. Kylie Jenner, for example, managed to avoid the public eye during her first pregnancy. Oprah’s able to live in Chicago completely unseen. Johnny Depp, before the Amber Heard trials, successfully escaped the public eye by moving to France. Lindsay Lohan left the country and did the same.
      Wealthy performers also have the luxury of taking extended breaks from their work, just go on IMDB and look at all the gap years for A-list actors. And with social media, they can respond to any allegations or controversies or smear campaigns. Even the “cancelled” celebrities can just wait for the public to move on and continue making money (Ellen, Kevin Hart, Louis CK, Dave Chappelle). Some even embrace it and make controversy their brand and bag a Netflix special.
      But I agree with your distinction between wealth and fame/notoriety. Average people or small creators who go viral for saying something awful, or for even just innocently being “cringe,” get all the harassment and doxing and threats, but they don’t have the money or resources to overcome them. This especially includes whistleblowers. They can’t afford to flee, they can’t afford private security, nobody wants to hire them, and they don’t have a team of people working to restore their reputation. They also don’t have an army of stans collectively racing to their defense. Public notoriety looks devastatingly different for people without wealth 😓
      There’s so much nuance going on here, and at the end of the day, it’s a fucked up industry. But I stand by that no matter how valid the uniquely burdensome mental health issues of celebrities are, their wealth provides them with *significant* advantages. With stan culture and parasocial relationships, public figures also receive an unhealthy amount of sympathy that often shields them from accountability for legitimately terrible behavior. Bill Clinton comes to mind. I just think it’s more productive to point out these privileges and have broader conversations about wealth inequality. The wealthy just do not *need* our sympathy, but WE need more class solidarity, and empathy for each other!

  • @rosarioamado3762
    @rosarioamado3762 3 роки тому +397

    I feel like this video could be use in high school. The way is edited, being simultaneously fresh and informative. Idk I feel like I'm watching a Disney PSA. (And I mean this in the bestest way possible). Really cool

    • @itsgabibelle
      @itsgabibelle  3 роки тому +103

      hey! I’m gabi and you’re watching ~disney channel~

    • @maggiebottoms43
      @maggiebottoms43 2 роки тому +10

      @@itsgabibelle *does stick drawing thing *

  • @sofiasofia-em
    @sofiasofia-em 3 роки тому +206

    Also, their managers put so much pressure on them and their parents kind of do nothing? Charli talks about all the stuff her managers have prepared for the next year, and how she wants time off, and the managers treat them like a money making machine. And their parent. do. nothing. Yes they deserve better treatment from the internet. But also their parents should protect them more and allow them to not make as many commercial rather than just letting them be milked for money.

    • @crab2195
      @crab2195 2 роки тому +17

      my thoughts exactly. i understand that the girls may not want to lose their fanbase, but if my child was crying like they were, i would take matters into my own hands. as any good parent would. i hate to say it, but i think the parents love the money a little too much to step in. it’s great that the girls have control over their own image, but they’re so young and realistically it should be the parents who are approving the schedule. they seem like nice girls and with that amount of pressure, i’m sure it’s hard to say no. i feel so bad for them, i really wish their parents would’ve done more to protect them. a lot of the “controversies” the girls have gotten into are actually a result of their parents poor decision-making skills. like taking vacations during covid. and i can’t be the only one who found it weird that the girls were hanging out with james charles… a known creep and social climber.

  • @KrisMF
    @KrisMF 3 роки тому +230

    i think a lot of frustration w/ seeing the immense success of tiktokers stems from the societal lie we're all told about meritocracy lol. the truth is that talent has little to do with success (esp online) and as a result we all kind of unconsciously create a scale in our heads of "who is *deserving* of success". unfortunately people (wrongly) take out that frustration on the d'amelios. i think you can hate what they represent without hating them, as individuals.
    p.s. this was such an insightful + funny conversation, i didn't even notice it was 20 mins long. brb subbing and binging the rest of ur videos🧍‍♀️

    • @itsgabibelle
      @itsgabibelle  3 роки тому +28

      "the truth is that talent has little to do with success (esp online)" yes and this concept is SUCH new thing, since we've only seen it once before with the kardashians, that the front-line taking all the backlash is this family. "i think you can hate what they represent without hating them, as individuals." agreed!!

    • @cuob969
      @cuob969 2 роки тому +3

      I agree with you, hate what they represent but not them as individuals

    • @woody_you_want
      @woody_you_want 2 роки тому +4

      It's the lie of meritocracy that people believe so when that gets exposed, people direct their anger in the wrong avenues

  • @roibenr
    @roibenr 3 роки тому +496

    They're white, rich and therefore privileged so people are using that as justification to actively hate on them but it's the same song and dance of misogyny and demonizing things teenage girls like.

    • @תאירזלצמן
      @תאירזלצמן 3 роки тому +6

      Fr

    • @yallratripbye9570
      @yallratripbye9570 3 роки тому +81

      I mean I don't think it's that simple. And this comment kind of teeters on white guilt and victim blaming. It sounds a lot like "they're just bullying her bc she's rich and white and I feel uncomfortable as a white person! Reverse racism." I'm not saying it's right for people to troll them relentlessly. That's foul. AT THE SAME TIME I think it is also foul that they actively participate(d) in erasure(racism) of black content creators. Even if they're polite, it's not polite less racist to dismiss brush under the rug that their entire careers started off of exploiting black girls. The girl that made the dance they stole was the same age, and people weren't running to defend or rally for her to blow up as a creator because she didn't look like Charlie or Dixie. They are aware of that and participated and never even gave any reperations.

    • @allusernamesweretaken
      @allusernamesweretaken 3 роки тому +16

      i find comments like this this be very biased. i have a completely different reasoning why it's hard to enjoy charlis content. i dont think its everyone's reasoning either.

    • @kskskksks3045
      @kskskksks3045 3 роки тому +2

      Bruv her content is literally boring af she has no talent, no personality nothing to offer just tiktok dances. It would have been better if she had just stick to tiktok. And not UA-cam. She needs to understand that these two platforms are not same.

    • @ZZ-qy5mv
      @ZZ-qy5mv 3 роки тому +10

      @@yallratripbye9570 Yah, I get starting out with that innocent mistake, but after being called out on it they should pay it back. I would have done all I could to help the original dance creator in getting opportunities in I was in her place.

  • @MurshaGames
    @MurshaGames 3 роки тому +214

    Honestly, I was a bit intimidated that this video was 20 mins but it flew by. You are both so insightful and entertaining! Everyone deserves love and to feel valid - esp you two ;) GREAT VIDEO!

  • @whydididothatoops
    @whydididothatoops 3 роки тому +81

    This is such a well thought-out video and I’m so proud of how y’all covered this subject. We really do need to change how we treat teenage people at large, especially girls. And I can’t help but think that if income inequality didn’t put so many people in such shitty situations, people would be more inclined to sympathize with Dixie and Charli. Of course their problems seem small to someone who’s struggling to keep a roof over their head or feed their children. But you’re 100% right, Gabi- depression doesn’t care who you are. I look back to being a nineteen year old girl and sitting in my college dorm and wanting to just escape from all the pressure, and I can feel that pain in Dixie’s voice. I hope these girls get the opportunity to make friends and experience joy and support, and I hope this documentary helps people see them differently. I also wish their parents would do more to protect them. I don’t fully understand the dynamic but they definitely shouldn’t be relying on their children working full time to pay for their whole staff and fancy house

    • @itsgabibelle
      @itsgabibelle  3 роки тому +10

      yes! the system is what is broken and unfair, and they just happened to benefit off of it. this was probably the most difficult video i had to edit, rewatching their painful moments over and over again, i just kept stopping to cry since so much of it hit home with me too.

  • @ryannishikawa1356
    @ryannishikawa1356 2 роки тому +68

    Some people on the internet really be on some sociopathic shit and it's not okay.
    Recently, I got in it with some folks on a thread about Mac Miller's dealer getting prison time for serving laced drugs and the amount of people just talking shit about Mac and blaming the whole thing on him. Most of them barely knew any of the facts of the case but felt qualified to talk as much shit as possible.
    I'm not a fan of these D'Amelio girls. Tbh, I barely know anything about them aside from knowing they exist. But they seemed like a wholesome lot. Completely harmless.
    Meanwhile, you got people bending themselves into pretzels to defend vile bigoted people and artists that get people killed at their concerts. If someone was gonna direct their hate somewhere, it should be at them

  • @AAAAAA-qs1bv
    @AAAAAA-qs1bv 3 роки тому +108

    The thing about "deserving" to be famous is such a weird mindset. If your value as a person is determined by what you have done for society, what about literally every other 17 year old?
    Are you going to just go out of your way to dropkick people in high schools now or what? Because as far as I know, there really aren't many 17 year olds that have done some great act that has benefitted humanity. They're all just going to school and binging netflix shows.
    One could also argue that their influence as an internet personality is the "value" they show to society, as they have the ability to make someone's day just by posting a clip of them dancing. I doubt I could do that at the very least.

    • @itsgabibelle
      @itsgabibelle  3 роки тому +26

      that's a great point! i was a selfish, depressed, teen that lashed out in unhealthy ways when i was 16. i cannot imagine having the responsibility of an audience that large at that age. it would have been awful for me and the people around me. i can safely say they're much better people than i was at that age and they just seem like normal, kind people. value is so subjective indeed and is a strange phenomenon we face as a society
      I think the argument against value correlates somehow with the amount of money someone is making from *that thing*, since they were doing what every other 17 year old was doing and are making millions from it, suddenly the matchup of value = money doesn't make sense in people's heads

  • @josiahdonny
    @josiahdonny 3 роки тому +64

    its so funny that people are talking about how bad previous child stars like britney spears etc had it and then go ahead and cause the same damage again

  • @hannah64645
    @hannah64645 3 роки тому +58

    i feel like they are an extreme example of the unprecedentedness of social media. never before in human history has it been possible for you to be incredibly famous basically overnight without you yourself really doing anything. this then also happens in a structure that both incentivizes people to say very mean things about you and then makes all the horrible things people say completely accessible to you. on top of that also being incredibly young means that two people who are living through something that humans have not been set up to deal with are going through this while having no experiences of anything. It sounds like an absolute nightmare.
    That being said, this was a fantastic video, you are both very insightful and have a conversation flow that is great to watch :)

  • @constantlybored
    @constantlybored 2 роки тому +40

    super late here but this video was honestly really touching. as a black person i can understand the criticism that claims she steals dances from black creators. however is that not kinda how tik tok works… our ideas have been stolen and used for others benefit while we get pushed aside time and time again so i get how it probably sucks to see that happening. but tik tok is a platform where that’s just how it works. when someone sees something they want to make a trend they do it. they don’t credit anyone most of the time. that’s honestly just the way the trends and algorithm operate there.
    but even without this context, i’ve never understood the large amount of hate they receive on the daily. there are literally hundreds of celebrities to be called out for their problematic behavior and yet we’re focusing on this literal child? she has such a large following and yet is one of the most unproblematic influencers i know. and yet simultaneously gets this large amount of hate.
    obviously she gets loads of money. and yeah it doesn’t make sense for someone who dances to make more money than a literal doctor but tell me, who is giving her this money and fame? why cant ppl understand that consuming her content and hating doesn’t mean u aren’t still giving her money and attention. i wish ppl would just realize that if they don’t like someone’s content they should just… not watch them. instead of leaving incredibly harmful hate comments that can seriously damage someone’s mental health (especially a child) just go on about your day and don’t consume their content.
    sorry for the rant but yeah i’ve been thinking about this for a while~

    • @painpokebeys
      @painpokebeys Рік тому +1

      Fully agreed. TikTok is the type of platform where if you do something it will become a trend, no matter your race. It sucks that black creators don't get as much attention, and personally I don't see why it happens. I really don't see what white creators offer that black creators don't. I guess it's some psychological thing.

  • @rianisuarez2182
    @rianisuarez2182 3 роки тому +42

    I think it might be alittle unfair to compare the hate given to Charlie vs lil nas. Even at the beginning of his career he garnered a lot of push back and hate for being himself. Perhaps the difference might be that he seems to represent a portion of a community (black gay men) which is often underrepresented, and maybe valued higher because of its impact on his community vs Charlie (who is wealthy/white teen like many other influencers that are alway represented in the media). Also I love this video it definitely made me think about in workings of being an influencer. That’s not to say that anyone is more or less deserving, but just describing why ppl have different responses to famous ppl

  • @Peachessssss13
    @Peachessssss13 2 роки тому +21

    "Another point name one thing teenaged girls can be into without being made fun of. go ahead I'll wait."
    -Salem tovar

  • @ann1hilus
    @ann1hilus 2 роки тому +27

    I really liked at the end when Duncan said this documentary "opened his eyes". I was never hateful towards Charli or Dixie, but my view of them before was more negative than positive. This video and the documentary in general definitely helped me realize how much hate they actually get, and how it effects them.

  • @riahpan7453
    @riahpan7453 2 роки тому +16

    That show literally changed my view of them. I never posted hate comments but I was one of the people that just didn't enjoy them just because, but after seeing a couple episodes of that show with my friend who liked them, I totally changed my thoughts. I still don't watch their content, cause it's just not for me, but when my friend brings them up, I'm not instantly like "ugh"

  • @Karma-tf8se
    @Karma-tf8se 2 роки тому +19

    Seeing Dixie break down broke my heart! I'm not a fan but I never understood the hate they got

  • @elipeeli
    @elipeeli 2 роки тому +6

    You can dislike someone, but telling them to off themselves is disgusting and a whole other level. I get people are jealous because in this world most people are living paycheck to paycheck, but full on bullying is disgusting. You can criticize someone without saying just straight up hateful stuff about them

  • @TheLivingPepsi
    @TheLivingPepsi 3 роки тому +82

    i blame a lot of things on the hate train; if it seems like hating someone as "the thing" to do, people will do it to fit in
    seems like that also applies here since it's so easy to blame the biggest thing (Charli D'Amelio) on a very hated platform (TikTok) and not care about the actual people

  • @toniadewuyi18
    @toniadewuyi18 Рік тому +6

    It hurts seeing people with mental health problems be made fun of because they're rich. I myself have my fair share of issues and they were escalated when my parents pretended wasn't real. I just feel so bad because her situation is so much worse, I can't imagine having thousands of people say "Oh what you're going through isn't real."

  • @newhopeelena
    @newhopeelena 3 роки тому +12

    I think this is my favorite collaboration of 2021. I enjoy every minute of it and i completely agree with both of you. Can't wait to binge watch the rest of your videos.

  • @asserehe5075
    @asserehe5075 3 роки тому +18

    First - great video! I loved how the two of you approached the subject, and honestly spoke about things I've been thinking for a long time!
    Second - y'all's voices are great for podcast omg!! I could listen to you two speaking for hoursss

  • @daa5865
    @daa5865 Рік тому +1

    I already said this in someone's video about (mostly online / tiktok) bullying, people so easily seem to forget that others online are actual people. Now that access to others is so easy, it almost feels like a show. And that turns into thinking of influencers as entertainment, and nothing more than that. I'm not trying to be like "internet bad", people have always been dehumanizing to each other. But right now, it's easier than ever to be that and have no consequences

  • @thebadpoet
    @thebadpoet 2 роки тому +25

    I teach middle and high school, and I think most adults have fully forgotten how much older teens are kids. A 19 year old’s brain is still developing, and demanding someone that age or younger be fully capable of thinking actions through to consequences and be thoughtful and careful in a way most adults are incapable of is so harmful.
    Also, she is a wonderful dancer, and I hope she continues to do modern and contemporary dance if it brings her joy. I wonder if she could find a place in a dance company where she isn’t a tik tok novelty but just a solid dancer in an ensemble.

  • @alicepuffin1782
    @alicepuffin1782 3 роки тому +11

    This message is so important. I almost wish the title and thumbnail was more clickbaity because this is worth tricking people into watching. Some "haters" are truly spitefull. However, I believe most people forget that celebrities are normal human beings. It is easy to assume that a throwaway comment (in our eyes) have no impact on them. It feels good to complain, hate and make ourselves feel more worthy than others. It is addicting to chase likes. I think most people are guilty of this on some level. That is also a part of beeing human. Maybe it is jealousy. Maybe it is a distraction from the dissatisfaction with our own lives. Idk. It wont bring anyone happiness in the long run. Not for the hater or for the hated. I think we need to check ourselves regularly for this type of behaviour. It feels bad but realising that we are part of the problem is the only way to improve :)

  • @itsgabibelle
    @itsgabibelle  3 роки тому +20

    edit: the longer less-cut 37 minute video IS NOW on patreon! im so happy this video has started a great conversation in the comments! thank u so much for enjoying. um also my face is extremely greasy in this video but it's fine

    • @marsgannon4891
      @marsgannon4891 3 роки тому +4

      Greasy??? I was gunna ask what your skincare routine is bcuz you're glowing!!!

    • @itsgabibelle
      @itsgabibelle  3 роки тому +1

      @@marsgannon4891 LMAO that is TOO kind. i have an AWFUL skincare routine i need to ~learn~, I have such sensitive skin I have to use suuuuper plain facewash and plain oatmeal based lotion 😅😶

  • @JBROXSMTOY120
    @JBROXSMTOY120 2 роки тому +3

    i think this video is incredibly well done!!! it raises so many important points that we as "society" often ignore. you guys definitely pointed to the tip of the iceberg that is Celebrity/Influencer/Fan/Social Media Culture and i'd LOVE to see more videos from you that address these topics. i think it's really important that we all remind ourselves to look past the barrier of the internet and see the human on the other side. the clips alone from this documentary break my fucking heart.. also i'd say misogyny plays a MASSIVE role in why the d'amelios and other girls are often hated for "no reason"......

  • @duresh08
    @duresh08 3 роки тому +25

    While I agree with all the points you made, it’s difficult for the general public to empathize with the privilege people like this have to now worry about anything and be in a position of influence power and wealth with zero discernible talent and having had to face no difficulties like the rest of us to reach financial success. That is where all the hate stems from I feel.
    That said it definitely doesn’t justify the ridiculous backlash and hate as well. They are normal people at the end of the day as well.

    • @windwaker407
      @windwaker407 2 роки тому +4

      Big disagree. Maybe she became famous overnight, but to say she has no difficulties is a drastic oversimplification. She's not just living on clouds now with no worries or cares.
      Are they famous due to practically nothing other than looking pretty and having no talent? Yes, of course, we aren't... unaware of that. You are saying what we all already know. People hate her because they feel she doesn't deserve her fame and hasn't actually done anything to earn it. But the point is, that's... not a valid reason to hate someone. She's a child, she didn't ask for fame, she couldn't have possibly be prepared for how fast everything happened, and we can't hate her for getting something she never asked for in the first place. She went from a kid making tiktoks for fun and getting a decent following to someone who basically became a sort of e-celeb so fast that even if she realized she didn't want this and wanted to back out, it's too late because agents have sunk their claws into her and made her painfully aware that they are financially dependent on her, and if she quits, she has to deal with the guilt of screwing them all out of a job, assuming she wasn't talked into contracts she can't back out of in the first place. She was a child who struck fame unexpectedly and now has agents steering her every move because if they make her into a cash cow, they all get to profit as well, and all they have to do is continue convincing her that it's in her best interest. But people don't see the agents. They just see a girl who got swept up into a world she couldn't have possibly been prepared to navigate, who became famous by essentially doing nothing and conflate their hatred of this system with hatred of her. We all know that she is now rich and privileged despite having no discernible talent, but the point is to question whether this is a valid reason to hate her in the first place. She's just a kid who doesn't deserve to be hated just because... too many people liked her and it made her famous. She did nothing wrong aside from be lucky, and to hate her for that is shallow and bitter. I hate the fact that she was thrust into fame, but I can separate that from her, because that is not her fault. She did nothing wrong, she is just another victim of the machine, except people are only focused on how she benefited rather than how she suffered.

    • @duresh08
      @duresh08 2 роки тому +7

      @@windwaker407 I never said I hate her dude. It's just that these people have been given so much undue privilege compared to people who actually gotta work to make ends meet. I just don't get what they gotta complain about sorry.
      You should work 14 hour days and make 1/100000 what she makes and then tell me if it doesn't infuriate you kid.

    • @windwaker407
      @windwaker407 2 роки тому

      @@duresh08 I like the implication that the only way my view could possibly differentiate from yours is if I was a child. I'm approaching my thirties, dude.
      And like I said, I am mad at the system that bestows success to people for no reason other than looking pretty, but I also understand that a fucking child doesn't deserve my ire when she clearly wasn't expecting this to happen and is probably in the worst mental state in her life because of it. But sure, I'm a child for having empathy for another suffering human being. Grow up, dude.

    • @duresh08
      @duresh08 2 роки тому

      @@windwaker407 for a dude in your thirties you have some sad reading skills yikes.
      I never gaslit the issues she goes through my guy. I’m sure it’s real and she doesn’t deserve hate for it. But when they try to garner sympathy from an audience saying “ooof it’s so hard being this famous the pressure is killing me whatever shall I do” I find it very VERY hard to sympathize that’s all.
      Learn to read maybe? You’re literally agreeing with me xD

  • @doctorstrangepants6706
    @doctorstrangepants6706 3 роки тому +5

    This was such a good conversation between you and Duncan! Please do more of these!

  • @linaforrestal9209
    @linaforrestal9209 3 роки тому +6

    whoa - more collabs! the animal crossing music...A+++ loved this discussion around the d'amelios, i had a lot of similar thoughts about it. i watched it not knowing much about them and i thought i was going to dislike them but really i just felt bad for them. this was fun to watch and i just subbed kuncan!

    • @itsgabibelle
      @itsgabibelle  3 роки тому +2

      they're less of a caricature like the kardashian's show made them feel like, and more of showing the realities behind the scenes that most celebrities don't show

  • @rozzyrose3280
    @rozzyrose3280 3 роки тому +6

    Holy shit I can’t believe I followed Duncan when her had like 20k and now he has almost 100k! I’m so happy he has found success and I know that you will too. Your content is amazing and you deserve growth

  • @ML-db8zg
    @ML-db8zg 2 роки тому +3

    When I was in high school, I distinctly remember one of teachers telling me that if I just did more, that I wouldn't have the time to be depressed. She genuinely thought I just wasn't busy enough and that's was the issue - not you know, a chemical imbalance in my brain that I can't fix...glad I'm well past that point in my life but still, jfc

  • @Maya-sz1pw
    @Maya-sz1pw 3 роки тому +7

    I saw this video because I am a big fan of Duncan, but I definitely want to see more of your videos because you seem great!

  • @Reluctic
    @Reluctic 3 роки тому +25

    They're turning them into the next Britney ☹. Also I'm having nightmares of Shane Dawson now thanks

  • @swampboy6716
    @swampboy6716 2 роки тому +16

    i’m sorry, doesn’t this look just like the way most people reacted to justin bieber, jacob sartorius (?), that song friday by rebecca black, or twilight, teen wolf, or even like tumblr and shit, shit gets popularized and is loved by or made by young girls, the interests of young girls are generally looked down on, and it becomes cool to make fun of them, “it’s just a joke lol stop being so emotional” rinse and repeat. i dunno that’s what it looks like to me. like “rich white girls can feel hurt too,” feels not only extremely reductive but also like a moot point. i mean nobody is saying depression only happens to poor people, and i hope they have a good support system and all that stuff, but like i feel like this is critically missing the issue. they have my sympathies, i hope they get mental health treatment: i just.. these two could take a year long mental health break and they would be still have enough money to last their whole family for the rest of their lives and then some. taking a day off work isn’t even an option for a lot of people. the issue of rich white girls having mental health problems as a result of bullying they get on the internet seems like a problem with many solutions which these girls have access to. it doesn’t even have to mean they leave the internet, they could pay someone to look at everything they want to look at before they look at it to protect themselves from hate if they wanted to and that’s just the most ridiculous suggestion i could come up with. i don’t want them to get bullied and i don’t want them to have mental health issues and i also don’t think this is the issue i would spend my time worrying about.

    • @neobonney
      @neobonney 2 роки тому +1

      i agree completely

  • @yallratripbye9570
    @yallratripbye9570 3 роки тому +79

    I can genuinely say that I'm not a big fan of them or the majority of white tiktokers who have sky rocketed to fame off of the labor and creativity of black content creators. I'm not saying to endlessly troll or ridicule them, and tbh I feel like a lot of misogynistic people do not like them solely bc their girls. BUT needless to say, I'm critical of their fame and uninterested in their content because of their ACTIVE role in systematic racism. There are a lot of nuanced convos about erasure of black content creators who create original dances/memes/ideas for someone who is literally JUST white and attractive and maybe nice.
    Edit: I think that there should have been a chapter about the racism/erasure issues when talking about this. It's complicent to racism/erasure to brush the topic under the rug.

    • @תאירזלצמן
      @תאירזלצמן 3 роки тому +13

      That is the tiktok algorithm fault, not theirs

    • @yallratripbye9570
      @yallratripbye9570 3 роки тому +24

      @@תאירזלצמן they never gave any genuine reparations. And they could have credited her or tagged her originally. They chose not to. They chose to continue to blow up their image without even trying to uplift and include the people they took from. So it is indeed partly their fault. And its also the fault of the people who continue to excuse the racism by making it seem as though "unintentional" racism is any better than intentional racism

    • @yallratripbye9570
      @yallratripbye9570 3 роки тому +19

      @@תאירזלצמן also yes tiktok is partly to blame for this. There are multiple factors at play.

    • @thedreammweaver6274
      @thedreammweaver6274 3 роки тому +2

      Very true

    • @I-M-Nothing
      @I-M-Nothing 2 роки тому

      @@yallratripbye9570 NO one owns you reparations except the government. Straight up. I don't care if your great grandparents were enslaved by somebody from my past generations. I, nor anyone else (Individual) owes you reparations. Get it through your head. Also conveniently forget that African Americans were caught and trafficked by their own race. Yet there is no request for reparations from the country they originated from or from the families that contained the men and woman who trafficked their own race for money. If you think I'm racist because of this, then that's fine.

  • @callingcolleen
    @callingcolleen 3 роки тому +5

    when the animal crossing music came on I wanted to cry. please make more content together. it was wonderful!! amazing chemistry!!!

  • @emmelinesprig489
    @emmelinesprig489 2 роки тому +6

    Shame on their parents. A kid should never, ever be put under that kind of pressure. They’re sick for exploiting their young daughters. Even in the clips, you can see how they’re just sitting there while their child is sobbing, patting her on the back and making a face like “Aw shucks, I wish there was a way to fix this situation.”

  • @ricksanchez665
    @ricksanchez665 3 роки тому +3

    Love this collab, Miss Gabi Belle! Always look forward to your content.

  • @minglou2019
    @minglou2019 Рік тому +2

    Heres the thing, I agree with the stuff they said, and it all applies to the d'amelios, but it doesn't always apply to everyone else. The Kardashians, for example, are also rich for doing essentially nothing, ridiculed a lot, and have seemingly no personalities, and they actually kind of deserve it. Not because of their money, but because they directly profit from harmful things such as beauty standards. Me not enjoying their rich dumb people content does not make them bad people, but the toxicity that they promote does

  • @elissavett
    @elissavett 3 роки тому +1

    Your latest video about buying followers was on my recommendations and now I'm binge watching your videos. Your editing is so good and you're so funny! I'm so glad I found your channel 💕

  • @fefe2200
    @fefe2200 2 роки тому +16

    This made me so emotional. Can you imagine having 100 million people watching your every move at 16 years old? Can you imagine being bullied by not one or a few, but by hundreds of thousands to millions of people? At 16 years old?! Can you imagine the entire internet hating you? AT 16 YEARS OLD?!? brb sobbing at how awful humanity is

  • @henlex6424
    @henlex6424 3 роки тому +3

    God all those clips from that show were heart wrenching

  • @kates2002
    @kates2002 3 роки тому +4

    I love how @Kuncan Dastner has a Little Women poster in his room- I’m glad he appreciates the finer things in life

  • @MaddyRose1998
    @MaddyRose1998 2 роки тому +2

    I knew practically nothing about these girls before this video. I saw they were getting a TV show and my brain went "ugh next generation of Kardashians, got it." and never thought about them again.
    This was amazingly informative and I feel a whole new level of empathy for them. It's hard to feel had for someone when all I see is a young beautiful rich girl, but now I get the layers there is to it. The Brittany Spears quote at the beginning shook me

  • @pucksandpaperbacks
    @pucksandpaperbacks 3 роки тому +2

    great video! came from duncan's channel (saw it on twitter) and subbed, love the editing and can't wait to watch more!

  • @istilldontknowmyname7324
    @istilldontknowmyname7324 3 роки тому +7

    They literally just dance how is that problematic. They might came off as rude or entitled or spoiled sometimes but they're young and that still isn't a valid reason to send them hate. Disliking someone is okay, but this is on another level. But apparently if you're rich and famous your feeling aren't valid and you can't be simpathyzed with 🤷‍♀️

  • @NexusVFD
    @NexusVFD 2 роки тому +3

    I dont particularly agree with the Lil Nas X comparison cos he didnt magically gain success from having a bop that went viral on Tiktok, he did that himself. Lil Nas X wanted fame and figured out how to do that by shitposting his way to fame. Charlie can attribute A LOT of her fame to her looks and privileges, which as fucked up as that sounds is not the same as Lil Nas X.
    I dont believe she deserves the hate she gets but I also don't believe she earned her fame.

  • @PlantingAshley
    @PlantingAshley 3 роки тому +6

    Came here from duncan! Love ur content, subbing 🎉🎉

    • @itsgabibelle
      @itsgabibelle  3 роки тому

      thank u ashley!!! i appreciate that!!!!!

  • @wanderinggstars
    @wanderinggstars 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Kuncan for introducing me to a new channel! So excited to check out your other videos :D

  • @peachy_lili
    @peachy_lili 2 роки тому +6

    look into how many kpop idols end their own lives. we just lost two like, 2 weeks ago. same reasons, having to grow up with your family depending on you and training from before you were even able to have a childhood ruins people. we should have learned this over a hundred years ago when the Coogan law had to be drafted :( but the new rush for internet content and the lack of policing has enabled shitty parents to once again force their kids into a different kind of acting for money with no child labor laws to protect them.
    and we don't have time to move on the legislation because the world is on fire and a majority of society isn't capable of understanding anything you explained in this video if it means they have to give up entertainment they like.

  • @codybasore2747
    @codybasore2747 2 роки тому +4

    Duncan saying "hair reveal! bald reveal!" crackedddd me up

  • @maluuuuuuuuuuuuiza
    @maluuuuuuuuuuuuiza 3 роки тому +2

    great video! loved to hear you two talking!!

  • @mikahs7944
    @mikahs7944 2 роки тому +2

    If I had that kind of money I’d get REAL mental help, why should I give rich people the same sympathy as poor people who don’t have money or maybe time to even get a therapist. I’m not saying hate them… but really treating everyone the “same” just runs a bridge over a lot.

  • @embarrassedcap
    @embarrassedcap 2 роки тому +3

    the only reason I feel sorry for them is because their parents exploited them tbh. they should've done better for their children's mental health. like at least tell the younger one to private her account (or delete it) when she got too popular. but no, they wanted the money. even though they HAD PLENTY. it's pure greed.

  • @Gunbudder
    @Gunbudder 3 роки тому +13

    The D'Amelios are "normal" in that they are the same as any other extremely wealthy and privileged girl in southern california. that's not to say they can get depressed or be unhappy or that they do/don't deserve any particular treatment, its just that i don't like this huge PR campaign to make them seem more relatable to the majority of the US, which they aren't. some things will be relatable sure, but they have lead a silver spoon life that most people won't even be able to understand. their problems are very real, but very unrelatable. That makes it harder to empathize with them i think, which is where most of the hate probably comes from. Personally, i just don't really care one way or the other. It sucks that they are suffering, but i have no connection to them beyond seeing the random video like this one that talks about them. I would care just as much about a random person in eSwatini who i've never met or heard of.

    • @DersiteDuke
      @DersiteDuke 2 роки тому

      I don’t see how it’s a silver spoon like when they’re actually working for the money, even if the way they started working is unorthodox.

  • @PONDSHA
    @PONDSHA 2 роки тому +4

    You know it's their parents fault? Right? I am not sure why no one is bringing that up. Why they need to deal with sponsors and work full time if they just want to be teenagers

  • @boba.lvty2002
    @boba.lvty2002 Рік тому

    seeing Dixie break down upset me so much, i barely know anything about these girls cos i don't really follow tiktok but i respect these girls as people, they're just normal humans and have come so far
    they don't deserve any of this shit they're getting
    after watching this i have grown more respect for them even tho it's over a year late but i'm proud of them
    i also respect Gabi and Kuncan talking about it so openly and respectfully, thank you guys 💜

  • @cmemce682
    @cmemce682 3 роки тому +8

    Guys the dynamic between these two makes me giggle. They’re cute ok!!!!!!!!

  • @dariozhe
    @dariozhe 2 роки тому +13

    This is such a breath of fresh of air on criticism towards influencers. Poor girl :c, she really knows how to articulate her perspective within a massive audience that's already trying to invalidate and minimize her feelings. She's braver than most for that

  • @thedreammweaver6274
    @thedreammweaver6274 3 роки тому +3

    Young women in media have got to stop being treated this horribly, how many times is this gonna happen again.

  • @micahfoley9572
    @micahfoley9572 2 роки тому +2

    it's not the rich people don't get depressed, it's that they have the luxury to remove from their lives many of their triggers and obstacles that less fortunate people have no choice but to overcome. Not to mention health resources. Rich folk are typically in a somewhat better position from which to treat their depression. That's the difference. I think that's why it pisses people off to see rich folk lament their burdens, right or wrong. Most people don't believe fame and wealth leads to a perfect life anymore, i don't think. Surely a few percent still dream with stars in their lives, but society has become so much more savvy about these things, and that reasoning broadly the same they used to excuse inconsistent behavior by rich and famous folk in the 60's. although the terminally sure has changed a lot. so i think today's version of that anger is broadly more considered, just necessarily.

  • @DMS3521
    @DMS3521 2 роки тому

    I am in love with your content gabi belle. Thank you for so much insight.

  • @henlex6424
    @henlex6424 3 роки тому +1

    Ohmygosh your setup is gorgeousss🤩
    I just got here but Subscribed!💕

  • @bigwendigo2253
    @bigwendigo2253 2 роки тому +1

    I just can’t even imagine caring (or hating) about what someone’s doing (when it’s literally harming absolutely no one) and who’s being successful so much that I tell them to kill themselves or insult them.
    It’s freaking disgusting and I feel horrible that I’m part of a society that treats them that way. Like what the actual f*ck??

  • @kenzij
    @kenzij 3 роки тому +5

    You know. Maybe we really do need to teach classes in minding your own business. Like we love to joke about it, but maybe if we actually taught people they'd know not to behave these ways toward literall teenagers.

  • @brunnamalves9012
    @brunnamalves9012 2 роки тому +1

    I literally cried watching this

    • @Melont06
      @Melont06 2 роки тому

      Me too like I'm not even a fan, but I wish I could give both of them a hug because they're going through so much it's not fair at all

  • @saggguy7
    @saggguy7 3 роки тому +1

    you literally could not pay me enough money to live these people’s lives especially at their age. i understand why it rings hollow to regular people when rich people talk about their problems. But at least to me, wealth would not be worth the media attention, the constant scrutinizing of my every move, the genuinely hateful and vitriolic behavior, and the pressure to provide for everyone around me. I’ll take my normal-ass, lower income life in a heartbeat, thanks very much.

  • @KristenElizabeth4
    @KristenElizabeth4 3 роки тому +5

    Honestly, in general it’s easy for discontent people to hate on Charli and Dixie because they’re…somewhat talented and largely propped up by rich parents but it’s really not fair to act like the Kardashians didn’t do the same thing ten-ish years ago…and that’s not me hating on the D’Amelios, or the Kardashians! It’s just what it is! Besides, as a society there will always be new people trying to break into entertainment as…”celebrities” (of some capacity) and it’s really not fair to forever gatekeep and it’s never okay to be cruel, regardless. That’s just my opinion.

    • @itsgabibelle
      @itsgabibelle  3 роки тому +4

      Now with the access of social media fame, there’s no longer a solid gatekeeper of fame, and people envy other ordinary people that achieve this level of success through their phone!

    • @tiffanylastinger3925
      @tiffanylastinger3925 3 роки тому +2

      The Kardashians constantly got hate and still do... like they are always made to look bad in the press...they just use it to their advantage and understood the game ... I think its accurate to equate them to the Kardashians as they're very similar, Both participated in unintentional racism, in both situations one is the main and the other just got fame off of their sister, both have parents with crazy high expectations, both are heavily in the social media view, both are constantly made into memes, both have mental health issues though maybe not as intensely

  • @lemon4087
    @lemon4087 2 роки тому

    I'm totally unfamiliar with all these people, but I'm aware of the stuff. I remember once clicking on Dixie music vid n scrolling through the comments. I was reading decent comments n just scrolling past the overused hate ones n felt like the situation is ok cuz the hate comments don't have weight n I didn't even spend 2 sec reading them. Now that I think abt it, IF the comments are abt me I'd def at least go through em even though they have the weight of a feather...

  • @Viyanca
    @Viyanca 2 роки тому +3

    I don't know if I agree with lil nas x not receiving as much hate as her. In fact, I'd say they received similar criticism in the beginning about their work being unsubstantial and that they should stay in their own lanes. We definitely shouldn't discount the intense racism lil nas x received from country music fans and yt people I'm general with his first single.

    • @emile.728
      @emile.728 2 роки тому +2

      Yup racism and homophobia

  • @brendonslife4584
    @brendonslife4584 2 роки тому +2

    Dont forget when black lives matter was trending everyone had that 0fp and then after a month everyone took it down except charli. She had it for 3 and a half years before changing it and got bashed for being "racist" even tho everyone else did it because it was a trend. I think she knew that if she ever changed it she would get massive backlash so thats why she didnt change it for so long.

  • @cavepunk2102
    @cavepunk2102 Рік тому +1

    social media is so dangerous for kids and teens, these girls should be going to college, making friends, joining clubs, not doing paperwork, calling agents, dealing with brand deals, etc. its going to affect them when theyre maturing into their late 20s/early 30s. i hope they stay strong, they seem like nice girls, idk why ppl demonize them so much

  • @russonauta
    @russonauta 3 роки тому +5

    Top quality content

  • @reoakiodesu
    @reoakiodesu Рік тому +1

    god, it hurt seeing her cry

  • @greysaudio9475
    @greysaudio9475 Рік тому

    On a very tame level, I experienced the opportunity to work as the lead sound engineer and manager for a band. I was yelled at, scolded like a 10 yr old, and told that if I wanted to continue my career I would just have to suck it up and learn to work alone and deal with what came with it. I learned to take that negativity and grow thicker skin, but it doesn't make the verbal beat down any more okay.

  • @IMainVenture
    @IMainVenture 6 місяців тому

    17:14 THIS PART MADE ME SOB I SWEAR I FEEL SO BAD FOR HER😭

  • @annekastaub3381
    @annekastaub3381 2 роки тому +1

    Omg…. Like I never watched her stuff but if heard of her and was not a fan that she just got famous for doing a dancy dance but she’s literally proving she has talent and the world wants her to die? Shit I just wanna give this little girl a hug…

  • @Amsayy
    @Amsayy 3 роки тому +5

    Bald reveal for Kuncan

  • @elondam7142
    @elondam7142 2 роки тому

    I totally agree with a lot you’re saying and I understand why but I feel you sort of didn’t need to bring up nas x- just because while they did blow up around the same time it’s really not the same. Like I fully get the analogy but like you said the girls blew up out of nowhere but nas has been trying to do music for a few years and was sorta almost out of options when he blew up. Just feels a lil too opposite ya’know? Idk maybe I’m just nitpicking- love ur vids tho defo have a new sub💕

  • @addimiller8311
    @addimiller8311 2 роки тому +2

    The way people hate on charli for no reason, she did nothing wrong.
    Then there’s people that are fantasizing about Jeffrey dahmer and calling him daddy.
    Like how do those two connect? How are those two in the same society?

  • @neociber24
    @neociber24 Рік тому

    Society is a weird thing, we just repeat things over and over again, I remember when UA-camrs were (and some still) ridiculize because people don't consider it a "REAL" job.
    Right now even UA-camrs do the same to Tiktokers or jokely they said is the price of the fame, and we just will do the same over and over again to the next group, job or person.

  • @fena_reti
    @fena_reti 3 роки тому +1

    The animal crossing theme on the outro brought me so much peace 🥰

  • @youreso_artdeco13
    @youreso_artdeco13 Рік тому

    I’m a year late, and I’m not a fan of the D’Amelios but I’m so surprised that they haven’t run away from the internet screaming, the willpower that they must have to continue doing what they do with all the hate, criticism and scrutiny, especially at such a young age is crazy. I know for a fact that if I was them I would have disappeared completely, so they have my major respect tbh.

  • @mo-licious
    @mo-licious 2 роки тому +2

    I feel bad for her, but she has enough money to live off the grid if she wanted to, or start her own business with passive income & never has to use social media again or stay in LA if she doesnt want to. Your avg person doesn’t have that kind of freedom. Only in a bubble of privilege can games be played

  • @demonchildmina
    @demonchildmina 8 місяців тому

    i think the fact that upper class people have any mental health issues eats at people because there is this incessant need to believe that we can be "fixed" rather than learn to live with our issues/discuss with others about our issues and needs. money becomes irrelevant at a certain point when it comes to mental health, just like you both said ! yes, they have more access, but some issues are incurable, and can only be managed. very sad that these girls were harrassed so severely :/ the internet can be just as bad as Hollywood bts and it's gross :/

  • @miledith555
    @miledith555 2 роки тому

    I'm don't really know much about them besides the fact that they exist and make tiktoks but from the show clips I can so clearly see they're not celebrities and don't feel comfortable being public figures outside of what they post online. The way they speak and act really reminds me of my teenage cousin and makes me want to protect them, because they seem like sweet girls who have their own passions and ideas for their futures and really just want to do what makes them happy.

  • @OzanYarman
    @OzanYarman 3 роки тому +2

    internet is just a loosener for people to try being their nastiest incognito or otherwise.

  • @mindofmax2067
    @mindofmax2067 2 роки тому +1

    The psychology behind it: jealousy and blaming the popular kid for your own mediocrity, just an excuse for them to misuse their own energy

  • @jasperjazzie
    @jasperjazzie Рік тому +1

    it's weird, pretty much all of us hate the "don't be sad, people have it worse than you" thing, but a lot of the people who dislike that phrase seem to forget about it when it comes to people like the d'amelio sisters and use it towards them

  • @samanthahope1316
    @samanthahope1316 2 роки тому +2

    Funny how you’re depressed when you don’t have enough money you just need to work harder, but when you’re rich and depressed you have the world and shouldn’t be depressed. It’s almost like money is the fucking route of all problems

  • @oliviafoley6006
    @oliviafoley6006 2 роки тому +1

    I think a big part is things that tend to "appeal to teenage girls" always recieve a large amount of hate

  • @vanessawalker6666
    @vanessawalker6666 Рік тому +2

    Young tik tok stars have become the new child actors when it comes to being overworked and having to grow up way too fast to provide for their family.

  • @imtotallynathan7564
    @imtotallynathan7564 Рік тому +1

    My first reaction:
    Boo hoo your a millionaire because of the internet being a bunch of simps and yet your complaining? welcome to the internet, people are going to hate you, deal with it.
    (From personal experiences IRL and a personal despise for TikTok is why my reaction is this