🤠 How to Fill your own Propane Tanks
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In this video, I show you how to fill up your own 20 or 30-pound propane tanks from your main large household tank. It must be noted that not all large household-size tanks can be used for this purpose. The tank must be a Nursing-style tank with a liquid discharge port in order to be used for this purpose.
Warning! Please exercise extreme caution when attempting to fill your own propane tanks. Overfilling can result in tank rupture. Propane is a flammable gas, and serious injury can result from improper use and handling. You assume all liability if you choose to fill your own tanks.
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Used to work at a propane company. Most all large tanks have a liquid tube installed already. It is capped off on the top of the tank and you need a special valve that connects to it to be able to use it, Ebay does carry these. You can't over fill a 20lb tank with a OPD( triangle top valve) there is a float in the tank that physically stops propane from entering when it reaches 80%. The bleeder valve is the 2nd best way to fill it because it is connected to a tube that goes all the way down to the 80% level, so when it is full, liquid will shoot out bleeder and you will know when its done. The best and only way we were allowed to fill portable tanks was to weigh them on a scale. There is an empty weight stamped onto every tank (TW) tare weight and a certain amount of propane filled by weight to go in them. Of coarse a 20lb propane cylinder carries 20lbs of propane, a little over 4 gals depending on the temperature outside.
Thank you for the details, very helpful!
Thanks for the info. , I just weighed a full tank from the store and I got (33.8lbs) , l suppose it varies here and there 👍🏼
@@Will-pi6gn 20lbs propane plus the weight of the tank, 33.8 lbs sounds a little lite. Take a look at the neck of the tank there will be a TW number stamped that's the weight of the tank empty. Also look at the WC (water count) that's the amount of propane that is full. Usually a grill tanks TW is 17-19lbs + a WC of 45.4(19lbs of propane) so should be 37 to 39lbs full. Some places will short you to make more money just Fyi
@@jennymullen8432 , you're right - the TW-17.7 & the WC-47.7, they shorted me 4-5lbs -nice
I'm trying to find the transfer kit for my 500# to 20lb.ers -- Nashfuel on eBay has em for around $200 , seems a little high for the brass fittings and 6ft. of hose - there's got to be a cheaper way for those fittings ? Plus, if my local Propane Co. sees my fittings wouldn't they get pissed that I'm filling my own 20lb tanks instead of going thru them and their high fees ? BTW I don't own my 500lb tank, they do
@@Will-pi6gn The fittings are expensive even for a propane company to buy. I'm guessing that it costs Nash around $90-100 to put the kit together. The pay off for the kit is around 8-10 fills, just depends how much you go through. Definitely check with your propane provider before buying a fill kit. Some companies would be happy you are using more gas, some might not be. You are most likely correct with your companies tank ownership, 99/100 people lease a 500gal tank from a company and pay a yearly fee. I own both of mine so I am able to fill up with whom ever is the least expensive, its much better in the long run.
I live in a fairly rural farm area. A lot of farmers use nurse tanks to run their irrigation pumps off them. My local co-op leases them for 12 dollars a month. Or you can buy one for 650 dollars. I bought a 200 gallon nurse tank for 350 dollars from my uncle when he retired from farming. I had to have the tank inspected at my local co-op for 20 dollars. I signed a 5 year contract with them where I can only buy from them but since I signed a contract I can buy my LP at the lowest price they offer each month. Usually June or July LO gets down to 1.25 1.50 a gallon. It goes about 1.75 to 2.10 in the winter months. I have it piped to my 8500 watt generator. I seen a hookup similar to this yesterday at Lowe’s for 85 dollars. Yours seems to be exactly like the one they are selling except third goes over the main outside threads. 250 gallons of LP will last approx 8 days on 3/4 load on my generator. Some years we don’t have any major power outages. Last year I only ran my generator to exercise it for an hour each month. Since I watched your video I think I’m going to put one on my nurse tank. I have a large gas grill that flat out eats a 20 gallon LP bottle in about 3 uses. If I buy my LP in the cheap months that’s around 8.50 a fill give or take. The nearest exchange place cost me 13 dollars to exchange my tanks so in 2 or 3 summers I could pay for the valve and hook up. Not to mention the fact that I only have to walk 40 feet to fill my tank. Thanks for making an easy to understand video.
Awesome. Thanks for commenting. I am glad the video was helpfull.
Excellent video.
Thank you much.
Makes sense now.
My pleasure. Glad it help.
If you have a large Nurse tank like the one in the video and a long enough delivery hose, you could fill it yourself. If don't already have a Nurse tank, it might be easier and more effective to take it to a KOA campground and get it filled there, unless you need to fill your RV tank on a routine basis.
When all the propane shot out like a cannon and you said ok 😂 great video thanks
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Awesome video
Thanks. Glad it helped.
You have some cool videos brother.
Thanks.
+Jungle Explorer - Great details video! THANK YOU !!!
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@@thejungleexplorer - WOW, you just saw the message today? OMG WOW !!!
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When filling the propane tank and leaving the bleeder valve open, you will let the air escape until you see the white cloud then close the bleeder valve immediately. Air has no color but, the propane has a white cloud of vapor.
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Very good job explaining.
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you should try taking a mayonase cover and cut the inner threading peice's nut size. slide it over the nut and you can spin the nut faster without the wrench. :)
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Thanks for the video, I have to find out if I have a Nursing Tank or not. I like the opinion you mentioned at a reply earlier.
If there's enough people who do not depend on the government there will be less risk of a government take over be it our own or an invasion from another. (my own thoughts)
+Gino Nigro
Thanks.
5:30 There are many gas-level indicators now on the market from analogous to digital. You can insert one of them gauges to see how much your tank is filled without having to unscrew the 20 lbs tank safety screw.
The gas level indicators you are talking about are basically pressure gauges. They will show pressure, not volume.
@@richardgraham8568 The gauges that indicate volume I'm sure they use some kind of pressure/volume conversion under Boyle's Law. You can get volume by pressure, that is, an idea of how much your tank is full.
@@TheD2D21 that would work for a compressed gas but Propane is compressed to a liquid state in the tank. So whether you have 2-17 pounds of Propane liquid the pressure would be the same at the same temperature, until the liquid runs out then the pressure will drop till empty. The pressure may drop a bit while the propane is being as it is in essence boiling inside the tank. The temperature sensitive strips you put on the outside are temperature sensitive and show where the temperature change is occurring but really only work when the tank is being used or the sun is warming the part of the tank above the liquid level. You can do the same thing simply pour some boiling water down the side of the tank, wait a minute, then run your hand slowly up the tank. The liquid will absorb the heat of the water and where you feel the tank warmup is at the liquid to vapour line.
While he was filling the tank when the pressures equalize the filling except for gravity the tank will stop filling. By opening fee bleed screw the release of vapour causes the pressure to drop thus more liquid enters the tank, when it hits 80% it starts to spray the liquid/vapour mix so you know when to stop. With the triangular valves tanks with stop fill valves they really should stop at or slightly before that liquid spray starts to happen.
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A very good video. Frost bite is a real consideration. A friend got frost bite on three fingers they never compleatly healed. To be safer use insulated gloves and safety glasses.
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There is another valve on other tanks used by Hank Hill to empty it when moving. THat valve can be used to draw off liquid also. OPEN the BLEEDER that is what is for! just wait for a bit of liquid spits then shut off filling.
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I was told you can't Gravity for Pressure feed the new style 20# tanks that have a safety float valve that keeps you from over filling them .. Also the little bleeder valve has a tube that goes down 20% into the tank. When liquid starts coming out the Bleeder valve you are 80% full that is the Maximum that is safe..
Also of you put your 20# tank in a freezer overnight you can get a lot more in it .. Of course weighing with an accurate scale is the best way to be sure you didn't overfill it ..
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No, you cannot overfill the tank. The OPD valve will not let you do that. There’s a float valve inside that shuts it off if it’s full. Opening the bleeder will make it fill faster and completely, and the propane loss is minimal.
Thanks for the info
Sure thing, though I was just googling about the valve again, and they say to still weigh the propane because the OPD valve might be rough on propane pumps when it suddenly shuts off the flow.
Hi,nice video.Your lucky that you can do that.Here at my place i have two 500 LB tanks that feed my water heater and furnace.And thats it.I always wanted to fill my smaller 20 and 40 pounders and save some money.
to have man come and fill your large tank is twice as expensive
Wont the propane company fill them if you set them by the big tan on fill day? I would think they would love to sell more propane? And if they scoff? Call the competitors and tell them what it would take to get your business? "fill ALL my tanks and you can have my business.....might only help some of the time but hey? Even if a tank was not empty have em top it off
Just use the tank you already have, buy the kit on e-bay
@@danread4192 I have the brass fitting that fills the one pound from a twenty pounder.But i cant fill the twenty pounders from my 500 pound tanks.
Thank you for commenting Onedayonly! I am so glad the video was helpful.
Great video , thank you. I am definitely will look into getting one of those nursing tanks. I am tired of getting ripped off by the local hardware store that fills the tanks. Do you have any video on how to make the fittings that connect to the small tank ??
Glad I could help
Edit: you can't get them on Amazon, it's the hose that refills the 1lb bottles. Sorry, looks like we gotta make them or spend a lot, I wish I had known about this when I was plumbing
@@tylertowler7801 thanks for the info, do you know what is the name that I can look for them on Amazon
@@ORO158 I apologize I was wrong it's the adapter that refills 1lb tanks. I will delete my comment
No worries friend. It's all good.. Thanks.
thank you
Thank you for commenting david bufford!
Really cool video! Thanks for posting!
Just my 2 cents, but it seems to me a safer and more cost-effective disconnect procedure would be:
1) Shut the small tank valve
2) Shut the red 'end of hose' valve
3) Unscrew the fill fitting
4) Hold the end of hose up as high as you can so the liquid propane in the hose drains back into the main tank
5) After 15 seconds or so, shut the main tank valve
6) Open the red 'end of hose' valve to purge - it should be only a bit of vapor now
7) Cap the end of the hose with a rubber or plastic cap to keep critters out
It won't drain back into the tank, the tank pressure is considerably higher than what is is the hose. or of equal pressure.
@@georgeangermeir6582 WRONG. The pressure will equalize and the liquid will run downhill, just like pouring or draining gasoline under the 14.7 PSI atmospheric pressure.
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Do u have a video on how to refill your on board rv propane tank with similar hoses from a 20 pound cylinder tanks ima order the hoses n i wanna do it myself other than driving to a uhaul
Unfortunately, I have have not made such a video yet, but will consider it for a future video project. Have a Happy New Year!
Unfortunately, I have have not made such a video yet, but will consider it for a future video project. Have a Happy New Year!
What about turning it upside down when you're filling it. Is that okay? Great Video!!!
Thank You Very Much
Not when you are filling it up. However, you must turn it upside down when you are using the 20lb cylinder to fill up other cylinders, such as 1lb cylinders.
Get a bathroom scales, weigh the bottle when empty and then add 20 lbs to it for being full.
That should work OK.
Thank you for commenting D Hansel!
You should get a short section of polyurethane air hose polyurethane hose is highly resistant to propane and also stays flexible in the cold so if you had 2 Barb fittings on both ends to replace that hose it most likely work better than your stiff black hose!
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You can fill using just the gas,you will need to cool the "to" tank, you can use a garden hose, it will fill all the way, it might take a hour, the gas will condense back into a liquid in the 20 gal tank as you fill it. (it's just a slower prosess, and you have to keep the "Small" tank cooler, that the "Mother" tank.
Sorry that is incorrect. Just open the purge valve on the 20lbs'er and will fill to the 80% level in minutes no need to chill tank.
Good info
At one time I had a 500 zg. tank here that had the "wet leg" needed to refill propane bottles. Autually it belong to Dad who purchased it at a farm auction. Where I didn't use the tank at, I sold it to a local propane supplier that was paying top dollar when my widowed mom need the extra cash and tanks. A coworker of mine used propane to power a tractor and a pickup. He has the appropiate brass tools to use when refueling
Thank you for commenting waswestkan!
Jungle explorer, Is it possible to take a 20 pd. Propane cylinder and hook a gas line from it to my RV tanks refill connector to refill my RV tank? I think it would work if the full 20 pd. tank is upside down and warm, while the RV tank is cooler under the RV. I also figure that there’s no reason not to use the refill spot/connection for any reason as long as the end use has its own regulator to control the gas flow as once a male connection s inserted into it its a full on connection. There’s no videos out there on this and it seems the only reason this spot isn’t used is to sell the tee’s or stay longer connection from RV dealers. Any help would be great. 👍
+M Hayos
I have never tried this as don't find taking my RV tanks to refill them that hard, but I don't see why you could not do it tank to tank. Of course you would only get a maximum of a half fill because, as soon as you reach neutral pressure, the transfer of propane from one 20 lb tank to the other 20 lb tank would stop.
I use a 20 lb to refill my 1lb bottles all the time. Yes, you have to turn the supply tank upside down.
Thanks for replying... My RV is in a friends driveway temporarily and it can’t me moved for a while. As such I can’t have extra tanks outside, so I figured half tank refills are better than nothing. At least the house clean out is right next to the RV or I’d be in real troubles ;-) Video really helped and I’d never heard of a nurse tank before. Might have saved me lots of money in the future if I get some land to homestead on. So thanks very much for taking the time to make and post it.
Genius
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The overfill float valve is supposed to keep it from overfilling regardless of what happens. I am a bit curious what pump the suppliers are using to force the tanks full. I have never seen the bleeder valve opened around here.
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They have High Pressure pumps .. I almost bought one for $2,000.00 to fill truck and tractor tanks with .. Instead I bought a Manual hand pump that went bad sitting outdoors in a small shed I built for it .. Heavy duty Metal .. Just needs the internals rebuilt
I wish you would have shown a better view of the large tank valve.
I am sorry Karles. I have been out of the country. Here is a close up video I made of the valve system just for you. It was really windy, so I hope you can hear.
ua-cam.com/video/-ey-sPDLBgo/v-deo.html
What I noticed is there is NO valve besides the main valve or a pressure regulator between the tee coming out of the large tank and the supply hose he created to the 20 lbs small tank.
put the small empty tank on a scale, flow liquid propane into tank, crack purge valve, as you reach 20lb shut down big tank, shut down purge, shut off small tank, disconnect hose and bleed hose if you don't have another small tank to fill.
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I have a tank like this in my RV and don't want to have to take it out of its box everytime (it is not convenient to get to). Can a remote fill be added to a tank like this? I have seen them on tanks with a bunch of valves designed for it but not on this type of tank .
Anything is possible
"NURSING tank" well this is what I need to get for my other Nawth Florida property, the one where the home is has a regular big tank like yours but it is NOT a "nursing tank" and I want to fill the small ones like you, THANKS for the lingo so I know what to ask for @ my other property !
Most any tank over 120 gal can be used for this purpose. They are installed with a liquid withdrawal you just need to install a liquid withdrawal valve on the tank.
Thank you for commenting Numa Newbern!
You're like Hank Hill's long lost brother I tell you what
Thanks. I think. I had to look up who Hank Hill was since I have never watch King of the Hill. I was not sure if you were making fun of me or trying to compliment me by your remark, but since the stuff I read about the character Hank Hill was positive, I will take it as a compliment.
Jungle Explorer I was gonna make a Hank Hill reference too lol. Anyway, you should check out king of the hill when you have some free time.
Can you list the link where you bought the adapter?
Here you go: #ad amzn.to/2zkSlWg
Can the nursing tank be connected to the kitchen directly? If yes, will the pressure be sufficient to burn the propane till the end?
A nurse tank is the same as any regular propane tank, it just has the added ability to fill smaller tanks from a liquid port, which normal tanks do not have. You can do anything with it that you can do with a normal tank.
I'll be doing the same soon to empty some forklift tanks I have.
Great. Glad it helped
Great video. I was wondering what all was involved with refilling those tanks. I have changed many out on grills and fork lifts, but never refilled one. I wish you would have gave some warnings about useing gloves though. Just a safety issue though. There are too many kids or adults that are unaware of stuff that try new things for the first time and it would be a big mistake for them if they get frost bite. Not everyone will have thick rubber/ insulated gloves but at least a pair or cheap leather gloves that are insulated would be better than nothing. Great video though. Just hope everyone is safe when they try this at home. Thanks for the upload.
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Nice video but I wouldn't continuously tap on the tank with a wrench if you want to avoid sparks and you didn't explain why you relieve the hose pressure at the end it's because when that refrigerated liquid heats up it will expand and break the hose if you leave liquid in it.
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The valve on the end of the tube may stop you getting frostbite but it won’t save any gas if you release the pressure as shown at the end of the video
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Dude said big whooptie lol
Big whooptie da! 😂
Dammit Bobby
Something's not right about that boy!
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Enjoyed your video. I just acquired an( aluminum) worthington plummers propane tank. Measures 22 in to top of collar, and 6in diameter. What is the gallon size, and weight when full? Tank last cetification date 1979. Having difficulty getting a shop to fill because of expired date. I want to partially refill fill it from my 20lb standard bbq tank. Any guidance is appreciated!! Specs from collar:
tw 8.0
wc15.0
dt 4.6
dot-4e240
50523
worthington lp gas
Thank you in advance. Bruce
Hi. Sorry for the delay. I am sorry that I cannot offer you any help concerning the tank you mentioned. I am not familiar with that tank.
@@thejungleexplorer Thanks for the reply. Just watched your video again, and must say it is one of the best on the subject refilling propane.
Just a guess at your small tank info: 8tw- total weight.
If the tank weighs 4lbs or kilos. It’ll take that again of propane weight. I use a luggage scale to take a quick reading of propane . Just detach and lift.
@@kenmccaffrey5040 Ken, thank you for the information you provided, very useful to me.
Step 1: DON'T-There is a reason the professionals will not fill the tank with a 1979 mfg date. Take it to a gas company that deals in LPG so they can look at your tank, see if it is able to be recertified, etc.
How can you tell if you have a nurse tank?
It will have a outlet connection with a shutoff.
Why didn't you show what the different valves are for on the tank? I need this info.
Thank you for commenting My stuff! I am so sorry to hear that.
If you cool the small tank you can get more in it, if that matters.
Absolutely correct Donald, I always put mine in the freezer before I refill them.
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Your explanation does not make sense to me?? Reason is Uhaul (and every other place that filled tanks for me) fills my 20 lb tanks FULL but they use NO scales....they use the bleeder valve...never watched closely maybe they view a gauge or whatever? What am I missing?
+Doug Chaney
HI Doug. I cannot answer for what other people I do not know do or don't do. I can only tell you what I do based on what I know to be true. That is all any of us can do.
I am a very conservative person and do not like waste. Opening the bleeder valve is wasteful as it vents propane out. It also creates a hazard because it is letting flammable propane out around you which could be ignited, potentially causing an explosion. It simply is not worth it to me runs this risk and loss to get a little extra propane in the bottle. Plus, I can fill a tank completely full without using the bleeder valve in the right conditions.
I hope this explanation make more sense to you. Thanks for watching.
Doug. the guy at a propane station told me you only mess with the bleeder screw the first fill and then never again. I don't know much about this myself.
You use the bleeder to tell when the tank is full. Once the tank is full it will shoot out propane.
Actually the guy also told me it was to get rid of the original air inside the tank. never see people opening the bleeder when I fill.
mic jam at my work we fill propane most of the day. We dont have a scale . The other method would to be use the bleed valve to tell when its full.
You definitely don't need a scale.... you open the Bleeder and you fill it by the spit... in other words once you see liquid Propane spitting out the Bleeder valve you stop.... simple... as for the loose Propane when filling it it's definitely not necessary true.... it's not even close to 1oz of liquid Propane...... but to each their own.
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@@thejungleexplorer I work in a bottle dock in Arizona so I do this for a living.. expect I'm not using gravity haha like you are
Both work either way !
The problem I see here is you turned off both valves with liquid propane in the hose. What's going to happen when the sun comes out and warms the hose? lets put a T and gauge on the hose and see. The liquid has no where to go when it warms and expands.
+Sny734
The purpose of holding the propane in the hose is that when filling multiple tanks, you do not lose a hose full of propane each time you switch a tank. But after ypu are finishwd filling, you exhaust the propane out of the hose be storing. I actually show this at the end of the video. Did you watch the video to the end?
Hold the hose up over the big tank and open the big tank valve. When pressure between the 2 tanks equalize, liquid will flow back into the big tank (liquid seeks its own level) leaving only vapor in the line. Close everything off and vent the hose down to atmosphere..
Do you still see these comments? I have a question
Yes, I monitor my comments daily. How can I help you?
Motors are driven by energy to do work, like a starter motor, engines make energy to do work, like a gasoline engine.
If it uses propane to make energy to do work, it's an engine.
FINALLY, I found something to complain about! LOL
You are not a word nitpick at all. No, not you. LOL! It's all cool. When it comes to American English, as long as people get the main point, that is all I care. PotAto, PotOto, TomAto, TomOto, Poison vs Venom, Clip vs Magazine, who cares, as long as people understand what you are talking about. This is American English in which the phrase, "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" is considered to be correct grammar. LOL! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo
incorrect.... Motors run on electricity. Engines run on fuel. Period.
Please stop touching the iron ( ferrous) wrench on the ferous tank...............MICRO SPARKS AND PROPANE DONT MIX WELL
Good Idea. Thanks
Around the 10th time he whacked the tank with that wrench, I had to stop watching. Sorry, I'm done wincing.
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To much bla bla bla
Thank you for commenting Russell Kazda! I am so sorry to hear that.
7:43 - you should only fill propane tanks to 80% capacity to allow for expansion, so a 20 pound tank would actually be 16 pounds of propane gas at 80% capacity X 0.236 gallons per pound = 3.776 gallons per 20 pound tank filled to 80% capacity. On an unrelated note... 8:03 - God, I hate that ridiculous term "my bad"! It sounds like a five year old talking.
Thank you for commenting KMAC Radio!
Very good job explaining.
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