Best ATVs by Sales! Japanese vs North American ATVs Polaris, Honda, Can-Am, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2020
- The top of the ATV sales charts from the Polaris Sportsman to the CanAm Outlanders, Yamaha Grizzlies to the King Quad 750s. Plus where we think the market could go in the next 5 years.
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@@DirtObseXXion went into a Honda dealer.... I said “I want to look at a Honda recon, do you have one?” He replied “we don’t have one of those but we have a rancher right here, what are you using it for?”
I said “farming and fun but mostly farming”
He said “well Honda is known for reliability and it’s obvious, but that doesn’t mean other manufacturers can’t make good machines too, we have some CF MOTOS and I want you to check them out first. They make good stuff just like Honda.
Cf moto has IRS EPS winch 4x4 all this stuff that costs extra on a Honda”
I didn’t know what to say so I raised my eye brows and said “ah”
He said “yea sounds pretty cool right? Why don’t you check it out”
Idk why you would turn someone off from buying the more expensive machine?????
Seriously? I'm honestly surprised the dealer knew the difference between a recon and a rancher (most I've met are pretty clueless)... But dang, i thought you were straight up being hilariously sarcastic..
@@DirtObseXXion well I don’t remember but I had to say that the recon is a 230 cc and he said ya no we only have the 420 I think it was or a 500 or sum
@@DirtObseXXion I left and bought a used Fourtrax 300
I bought a can-am 570 five years ago. 10 000 km and it still runs great. Maybe lucky but I love it.
Love to hear it!
Years ago my whole family was Polaris die hards. After many issues with the last few machines, my dad and brother are now Can Am side by sides and I opted for a 2020 Yamaha grizzly 700 last year. Great machine so far and yes, may be a Japanese company but they are made in Georgia U.S. of A and employ over 1600 Americans!!
Love the Grizzly! Even though my 16 with the 708 sucked..
@@DirtObseXXion 686 bulletproof. 707 trash you got the shitty year lol
I have a 2020 grizzly its been really good minor issues but not really the machines fault I ride it hard
It rare to find a review on UA-cam that is spot on and it matches the comments below. Thanks for a great video.
Thanks for checking it out!
Just bought a 2021 Suzuki king quad 750. First impressions are it is friggin awesome
Congratulations! That's awesome!
I owned a KQ750 the best part of it is how easy it is to ride and control, it's an machine that will make a beginner rider look like a pro
I've had mine 2 years. I have a 2019. I love mine too. I'm more nimble than my buddy with with canned ham.
We have a 2019 750axi and its definitely the best atv I've ridden, ove tried an 850 sportsman and 1000 can am, sure they're powerful, but the kq os still a torquey fun bike while still giving me confidence to not worry about a breakdown!
@@billyboots3730 the center of gravity is lower too. Thats one thing I noticed shopping was seat height. Seemed the KQ wasn't as tall as the Yamaha and Polaris models.
My 2016 Sportsman 570 has been fantastic for 5400 miles. I'm not partial to any manufacture. I literally went to every dealer, and found the most comfortable machine. If I'm not comfortable, I'm not gonna have fun.
is it even run in at such a low milage ,im a scottish farmer and run a Honda 500 ,now quite old at 14 years old with over 60,000 miles on clock ,very reliable but did lose compression last year and needed a top end engine rebuild ,most around here run hondas but some now changing to suzuki king quads as they are a major improvement on previous ,I like many tried Polaris 15 years ago ,every bike destroyed its serlf at two years old ,complete rubbish and i know of about another 10 farmers who would say the same,i did buy for comfort as it was but reliability is terrible
I have owned kymco 500, Yamaha grizzly 700, can am 650 xt , 570 Polaris sportsman and Suzuki king quad 750
Out of all those quads I have owned over the years they all had something better than the other but for me the best all round quad for trail,hunting and reliable machine was and still is Suzuki king quad 750 greatest quad I have owned by far
Never owned a Honda cause you would still have it, over the years.
And I love my sportsman. Still have a 2004. Running strong.
That’s awesome to hear! People gripe on Polaris for no reason, the people who usually buy them run them into the ground and then complain when they have issues. I’m picking up my 24’ 570 this week and I’m stoked!
I don’t have atv but I have watched 3 of your videos today alone lol 😂. You’re making me want to pull the trigger on one. Great content, keep it coming!
Glad to hear it!!! I hope you get one!
One thing to add, the Made In Mexico sticker on every Polaris RZR, enough said for me.
Mmmmmmm Mexican food
@Will YoujustSTFU the quality isn’t the same to the Japanese counterparts
mexico has top quality manufacturing....some of the best in the world. you have no clue what you are talking about. korean companies are running to mexico in droves for manufacturing
Pretty good video I think. I personally regret buying my sportsman 450 and wish I would’ve went with a rancher like my wife did. It’s got good power and it’s comfortable but it’s been in the shop already a few times with under 25 hours on it and very light riding on it. I think of Honda stepped up their innovation they’d take the lead but I also think that’s part of the reason they’re so reliable. They stick with what works.
Yamaha is more innovative, better design & just as reliable! Try a Grizzly 700.
Man it has been way too long since I've kicked back for a Dirt Obsexxion video. That moment on Christmas day before the kids wake up is a perfect time. Merry Christmas all and great video!
Lol! Thanks!!! Merry Christmas to you too!!!
Hey thanks for the ATV information. Utvs are so popular that not to many people give much information about anything else and that was a good video
Thanks Hummy!! We love us some ATVs!!!
I've owned every brand and worked on tons of ATVs for family/friends.
They all have their strengths and weaknesses. And all of them can be phenomenal with just a little bit of attention and mods for what you're using it for.
Where I live, it's all deep mud and water. Without spending the $$ to properly set up any manufacturer ATV, the mud and water will leave you broke down and still making payments.
Thats absolutely righteous. Good comment.
As why I've recently been trying to steer clear of that mud. She breaks stuff. I've never understood the glory of hitting a mud lake not a puddle a lake.
If kawasaki made that 300 with 4 wheel drive rear independent suspension and fuel injection that would be a huge game changer for the market. Great video. I think your assessment is pretty accurate due to my shopping of Atvs lately. Thank you for taking the time and putting this together.
Kawasaki has said they plan on releasing a mid displacement ATV, not sure about when yet.. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Just bought my second Honda. The first was a Honda Foreman Rancher years ago! Loved it! Now I purchased the Honda Foreman Rincon 520 manual shift and love it! Hopefully I’ll get the same service as I got with my first Honda!
As I’m the only rider on UA-cam to roll an atv shifting gears my opinion means almost nothing...this video is a bullseye! Excellent work Chad , everyone purchasing an atv should watch this. I’m sharing it with my riders. Thank you stay safe. 🙂
Thanks Peter!! We have our share of whoopsidaisies too so don't feel bad!
@@DirtObseXXion our group rides all those atvs, I shared it with them. Don’t worry about me I’m okay thank you. Good stuff keep it coming.
When you have Mechanics at the dealerships tell you to stay away from Polaris I would listen to them.
I agree ! I owned the 2016 Polaris 570 nothing but problems and the 4x4 wasn't as good as my former Suzuki 750 KQ, so I sold the Polaris 570 and bought the Yamaha Kodiak 700 and very happy with the Yamaha
I’ve got a 2010 Sportsman 850. No problems and it still runs great. My uncle has a much older Sportsman 500 and same thing. I’m not saying you didn’t have problems with your Polaris but just because you did, doesn’t mean everyone else has.
I think the old 500s with Fuji engines are a bit more reliable than the newer stuff
It is all hearsay
Totally agree polaris atv or sxs are junk seen too many broke down or pulled home and know tooany that wine and complain because they can't ride cause thier ride is at the shop
This video got me considering purchasing a polaris.Maybe in 25 years when my 1992 300 Suzuki king quad wears out
Lol! Nice! I wasn't trying to promote any one specific brand, just basing rank off sales numbers
I have owned them all . My XTR is by far the best one I have purchased . Not the fastest but 100 km/hr is enough and 225 km to a tank of fuel is great . Thanks for your time and videos .
Great review! guys. Always love the honest reviews that are given. Keep up the good work!
Thanks brother!
This video was spot on! I really thought the top 3 would be Polaris, Can Am and then Honda. I also expected a full on Hondude roast in this video but got lathered up for a complement. Looks like Christmas came early, cheers fellas.
Lol! The ruler of Hondude Nation himself!
@@busabusa1529 I think it depends on location. I don’t see any hondas in my area. Couple yamahas. But like Florida, hondas everywhere.
Lots of awesome info guys, keep em coming and keep rocking the beards!!
I can’t speak for flyin Brian but I will definitely keep rocking the beard. 🤘
My beard is like my hairline...partial
Thanks Scott! Me and Brian have little baby beards.. Probably full beards for the average man, but when you hang with the Viking you start to feel... unsubstantiated
Hell yes!!!! You weren't kidding around. Great work, pal!
Thanks brother! I needed that boost to get motivated.. We've got a few test units coming in for ATVonDemand and a super killer project in the works too.. So I definitely needed to knock this one out
HONDA, YAMAHA & CANAM. In that order for reliability!!
I love my Arctic Cat. It has made me into such a good mechanic without ever having to pay for schooling.
Lol!!! Same with my Polaris
Yup i got a 2017 arctic cat alterra 400 ive had a few small problems its got about 4000 miles i love it though ive had somebody here in my small village put a tank full of water in the gas tank and had to drain the carb an put fresh fuel in it also a few other small problems
“Not” because I had a cameo in this vid lol nice info ! Long live ( & it has) sport quads , let’s hit it !!
Lol! Well said Mad Mike!
Finding the right ATV for you is definitely an personal journey. My grizzly 700 with the 708 engine is awesome. It does everything I want. I have 6000 miles on it in 4 years hammering through the bush lands of Northwestern Zambia. So much fun!
Lucky that’s the shitty motor. 686 is bulletproof
Very good info thank you for sharing your research I chose a 23 570 Polaris and could not be happier
Me to comfort and easy upgrades 23 570 rocking my world.
Awesome video! I don't understand why you don't have more subscribers. Keep up what you guys do!
Lol! I'm blown away that we have as many as we do... Thanks brother!
@@DirtObseXXion you guys should be 100k plus buddy. Keep grinding, Save sport quads!
I asked Chad last week how close we were to becoming Saboo famous and quitting our jobs.
@@flyingbriando5521 I have e been watching side by side blog for years, they deserved a bigger following years ago. A shout out from Cletus definitely pushed them to the next level. I see you guys stumbling across a collaboration that gets you guys to that next level. If UA-cam would help, you would be there already!
The yamama 350-450 are great farming quads
Very fair comparison of the major brands, I’ve got a 1999 arctic cat 300 which is basically the same as a 300 king quad Suzuki and I love the thing bought it from a local farmer to use on our farm and its been reliable as heck
Awesome! Thanks for checking us out!
@@DirtObseXXion no problem I love the Chanel keep up the good work
Honda 300ex! Bought new in 1997, it's a 98 model. Never let me down. Replaced axle bearings and chain a sprockets and brake pads a couple times. Front a-arm bushings once. Other than those wear items nothing has broken or malfunctioned. Just put on 230 miles on Hatfield & McCoy trail system this week. Preventative maintenance is the key. Oil is changed regularly, chain is lubed regularly air filter is checked and valves are adjusted as per manual.
That's what it takes, thats for sure.. We just git back from Hatfield McCoy a few weeks ago..
I've owned 7 utility quads purchased between 2001 and 2015 (all North American) and still own 6 of them. I've also driven Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki and Suzuki. I generally agree wit the comments here.
1) Polaris XP 850 Sportsman (2009) Had no problems in 5000+ miles. Only complaint was that from the start, the power steering was a bit vague at speed. Comfortable ride. Traded it in for XP 1000.
2) Polaris XP 1000 Sportsman (2015). Grrr! Plenty of problems! Poor quality control and with (at best), mediocre honoring of 5 year extended warranty. It has 6000 miles over rough terrain. Engine and driveline have remained solid. As with the XP 850, the power steering has always been vague at speed. It is spongy, allowing a wobbling of the handlebars without corresponding influence to the steering. Suspension bushings wear fairly quickly.
Poor muffler location MELTED the plastic THREE TIMES (replaced under warranty) before they finally issued a recall and installed heat shields. Still, the muffler location is poor, preventing the use of chains and excessively heats the right rear tire.
The biggest complaint is Polaris' willful concealment of a common problem with the fuel pump and an unwillingness to address the problem. The dealers know the problem, yet Polaris neither published a notice nor allows replacement under warranty unless dealer can replicate the problem. Replication is hard to do, as the problem is intermittent, only appears after running for at least an hour, and usually on warmer days. Every XP owner I know has experienced the same problem. If it behaves as though there's vapor lock, DEMAND, DEMAND, DEMAND they replace the damn fuel pump and UNDER WARRANTY (Grrr. Argh!).
The second biggest complaint is the shifter. It is BY FAR the worst of any quad I have ever driven. Extremely notchy. This is compounded by a preprogrammed idle that even at idle drags slightly on the clutch. This renders shifting extremely difficult (yes, I know to offload loads before shifting, rocking the quad like a spastic, blipping the throttle, etc. - none of that works) I often have to turn the engine off in order to shift. I've tried to lower the idle but the preprogrammed idle speed prevents idling below ~1150 RPM)
3) Can Am Max 800 (2007) Fuel pump failed. But is was well out of warranty. Other than that, it has been reliable over ~4000 miles
4) Can Am X XC 800 (2011) Power steering began to intermittently quit, but it was simply been a loose connection. Removing its connector and reinserting it seems to have solved the issue. Exhaust pipe heat has been an issue and has melted the plastic below the seat (literally dripping plastic).The heat problem is most pronounced when running snow tracks. (Can Ams work well with tracks, but don't leave it pegged at max speed unless you want to fry a belt in minutes. The quad has been solid over 5000 miles. Both Can Am and Polaris should switch to stainless steel exhaust systems, as stainless has about half the heat conductivity of regular steel. This would not only solve the heat problem, but it would last the life of the bike. Regular steel will age quickly when wrapped in heat wrap, as it is less capable of handling the increased heat due to insulation. 304 (or better yet 309) stainless is the way to go.
5) Polaris 800 Sportsman - very soft suspension, comfortable ride. Quieter motor than the XP series because of 180 degree firing order vs. 270 degree on XP series engines. The only complaint is poor fuel mileage - requiring ~50% more than the XP 1000 despite having not much more than half the horsepower. Being the first year for fuel injection may explain why it gets much worse fuel mileage
6) Arctic Cat 400 (2002) bought in 2001. Great ground clearance, good engine (Suzuki) with 5 speed shifter. Complaints include no locking front diff., rough ride, TERRIBLE kickback in handlebars from bumps, and BY FAR the most ABYSMAL handling of warranty issues.
7) Arctic Cat 650 (2004) Great engine (Kawasaki), good locking front diff., good CVT, rough ride, TERRIBLE kickback in handlebars bumps, and BY FAR the most ABYSMAL handling of warranty issues. After this second Arctic Cat where honoring warranty required initiating legal action, I vowed never to buy their product again. The list above proves I kept that vow.
I'll give honorable mentions to the:
Grizzly 700 (~2016). Not a terribly plush ride. But they're light, good ground clearance, fairly quiet engine, have a low center of gravity, and are reliable.
Suzuki King Quad (~2016) - great ground clearance. This was ideally suited for doodling along at modest speeds on narrow, twisty trails between trees, around rocks, etc.
Can Am 1000 (2019) Can Am has really stepped up their game. The Polaris XP 1000 still has a little bit more comfortable ride, but it is almost a match. The Can Am is a more polished quad than Polaris and from what I've seen are more reliable. They also have better throttle response, a quieter engine, and better quality control. When you're paying this much for a quad, theft security is important. Can Am's key is FAR more secure against theft. In contrast, the Polaris key is a joke.
Honda Rincon (2019) Honda is known as tops for reliability. Light weight simplifies handling For my riding, my main complaints are small wheels and tires, low ground clearance, and minimal suspension travel. I wish Honda would choose to ENTER the market with an 800+ cc quad and address the wheels, tires, suspension and ground clearance. They could adapt their 'Africa Twin' 1000 motorcycle engine for use in an ATV. What a winner that would be. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
Awesome input, I definitely agree.. Polaris can be hit or miss sometimes and I think canam has made a lot of improvements over the years
Yamaha & Can Am #1 all around! All we will buy. Utility quads are Can Am & our sport quads are Yamahas .. tho we are getting a '22 Yamaha Grizzley 700. -Ohio
@@Davido50 Yep. A friend has both Can Ams and a Grizzly, with snow tracks for both. Tracks require an obscene amount of power. Despite this, the Grizzly does surprisingly well. I like the Grizzly but be aware that at one point (I think around 2018) Yamaha changed the engine (both the design and who assembled it) such that the newer engine had far more issues than the prior engine. It may have also had a slight difference in cubic centimeters.
My friend had both and got rid of the newer Grizzly. Hopefully, Yamaha has since addressed the engine issue, but you should ask about this.
@@gregparrott You are referring to the Subaru engine series. They reverted back to using yamaha engines in 2019.
@@toyota4x4legend Thanks for the info. So, the Subaru engines were the unreliable ones?
I have a 2018 Brute Force 750 EPS. Almost 5000 kms, never had to replace anything yet. They just need to update it as the video says. Been the same machine for 8 years now.
Needs more ground clearance and better suspension and rear brakes are spongy don’t work for shit. I have a 2020 with 500 miles on it. 3 things I think suck about it. Everything else is money. Love it but they need to address those.
Very informative video, touched on all the right issues, only thing I would have liked would have been MSRP on the ATVs covered.
Thanks for the input! I'll keep that in mind in future vids!
Awesome video!!! I'd like an update on your sportsman 1000S. Thanks 🍻🍻
Do you mean that Scrambler S we're riding in the video or the Sportsmans we own?
The S was a test unit.. My Sportsman is in the process of getting an XC build done to it.. That build will be featured on ATVonDemand.. The Viking is selling his because he's wanting to do a race build on a YFZ, so he needs the $$$..
Still love my SuzyQ Vinson with pull start...never fails.
Never will
Very fair assessment my friend. Great video!
Thanks Eh!
polaris sucks
artic cat is super awful worst non chinese brand we have one that doesnt ever want to run, it breaks every weeks and has fuel injection problems shocks break just by adjusting them too much up travel and bust out there own headlights on small jumps and 4wheel drive system breaks just by using it regularly and the exhaust pipe is impossible to keep tight manufacturers cant even get this this to work, 2020 alterra 570 is so cheap and badly made absolute piece of shit just trying toget rid of it.
@@dizzlerizzle2775 how many do you have.? I have a Sportsman XP 1000 and AWESOME, INSANE and wouldn't have anything else.
@@crazyflyboy30 everything but a polaris, stayed away from them because all i heard was that there the guys breaking down on the trail the most
Best video I have seen, fantastic job, fair honest, informative.
Thanks!
Great video! Always had Honda’s personally. Have a 2002 rancher with 15,300 miles. It’s a workhorse to say the least
As a genuine fan of ATV's, it pains me to see what has happened to Artic Cat, I can't help but think that this will be happening to Suzuki's ATV lineup someday. Suzuki needs to step it up, they should make a bright yellow YXZ styled sxs, make it look like an 80's remote controled car with manual shift and just start rolling out a sxs lineup before it's too late.
I agree, sucks what happened to AC.. I'd really like to see Suz make a Sport machine again.. That market is pretty wide open
I remember back in the 80s Suzuki was favorite and now I don't even know where a dealer is for Suzuki and I can think of every other brand off hand even Argo and CFMOTO.
Holy shit that would work out bring back the old beast of a quad they made. That yellow 1, forget the name
@@dmo848 I think your talking about the " QUADZILLA " YEA , that thing was a beast fer sure !! A 500 cc 2 stroke .......SPOOKY GOOD !!
They've already stopped making the kids Lt quads and the new yz or whatever the new model was after the LT80...shame
I have a 2012 suzuki 750 and i love it. Never had any problems and its a great handling and performing machine.
Wonderful video man. You have a gift and do this very well.
Thanks Jon!
Great video!!! Hey these high tech 4 wheelers of today and the power . No matter what you ride ,they are all fun.. pick your flavors .
Thanks!!! Great point!
These guys really deserve 100k subscribers.
Thanks! We're still amazed that anyone watches our videos.... let alone subs to see more
I was just thinking the same thing, their videos are well done, honest, and engaging...
Great video! I've owned Polaris, Yamaha, and now Can Am. Bottom line, Yamaha and Can Am rock! As far as Polaris goes, not bad but overrated.
Thanks! We've had the same experience!
Can am overrated. For sure.
I'm planning to buy my first atv but I'm not sure yet wich one honda or can am ???
Any recommendations and advice ?
@@user-vj4ll6kh5c I don't have any personal experience with Honda but of course their quality and reliability are worthy. I have a 2016 570 and a 2021 850 Outlander. Only complaint is the 570 shifter is sticky. Otherwise they've both been great. Should note they're both max (2up) units. I think Can Am build quality and fit and finish are strong, and they offer many options. Good luck whatever you decide and get out on the trails.
BTW, power steering is worth the extra cost!
Thanks a lot !
Some very good points. As always great content.
Thanks littleman!
I have a lot of miles on my 2005 honda rancher 400, it still running great and the only thing I've changed outside of normal mainance is the front cv boots. pulling with a trailer once that was so overloaded it blew out the tires but the rancher never complained. even used it to move a 30 foot trailer around on gravel. I won't say its better than others or that it did something others can't, its the only one I've ever owned and its done more than i expected and has yet to break down after 15 years. oh i did have to replace the fuel valve.
Try a Polaris or Can Am & be amazed! Esp w/big bore ATVs.
I enjoyed this video.
It’s a shame Suzuki has given up on themselves... the LT’s were the machines to have back when ATVs were in their infancy.
With that said- my cousins used to race Tri-Z’s back in the day up until they were banned. They took their one Tri-Z and put an LT230 front end on it... nevertheless the geometry never worked out and they went to the new Banshee in 87.
Fun memories.
Awesome stuff! Thanks for sharing 👍
I love my Brute Force 750!
I've rocked it with yamahas Hondas arctic cats and can ams. Can am is my favorite the clutching horsepower and ride quality is what made me look past the couple problems I found. But I'm a trail rider, I use an old rhino to hunt and I dint have alot of yard or farm work to do with an atv so the outlander is my go to.
We really like the Outlander too
Really enjoyed that program, cheers,
Thanks!
Brute Force 800 or 1000
True locking diff and heavy duty frame
And a sports 4x4 kfx 750 with a setup like renegade
Sport 4x4 KFX is something I could definitely get behind!
I love and want to buy a Honda but all the Honda's are underpowered, I picked the Yamaha instead
Smart move. You won’t be sorry!
Good choice
My opinion: they are the best
My S10 Blazer which is not fast will outrun four-wheelers, Hondas have plenty of power for work, hunting, and mid-range power on trails. You will not be doing 78 mph on a wooded trail and an ATV will not be on a bypass.
Tom Turd yamaha makes great stuff
@@keeganfoster1792 Honda does also.
Outlander 650 max xt here and loving it, wont trade it for anyother brand, I considered the grizzly 700 when I purchased but the smaller engine and lack of 2 up models made me go with can am
I've a 1998 Polaris Sportsman 500 thats still running strong. No mechanical issues ever, routine maintenance, and replaced the drive belt once due to age and wear. Its done a lot of chores on the farm, trailored loads much heavier than its rated for, pushed mountains of snow, used to tow a ditch / brush cut mower, and of course plenty of trail rides through the years. When and if I need another 4x4 utility ATV, Polaris is the brand for me...
Great input! My folks have an 03... Same story
I had my dad first owner pass away me now 2 owner sportsman 500 4x4 1996 keep up maintenance like fluid or fit grease or oil change just only issues front end few parts not so bad. I wish post my picture here but won’t post.
@@Next-Ice-Age that's awesome my dad has a 99 500 and every other week it's something new with it he swears by them I'm a Honda and yamaha guy
@@whosthere2707 Honda and Yamaha very good vehicles 👍
Hands down best UA-cam channel!
😆 🤣 😂 I'm definitely quoting you on that!!
I love these videos!
I got a leftover 2019 King Quad 750 back in April 2020, 9K out the door. I originally wanted a Grizzly 700 but no matter where I looked the Grizzly would cost me at least 1K more. I do love my King Quad and it does everything I want a atv to do, plus I saved a lil money so I am happy. IMO King Quads give you the best bang for your buck, however they are often overlooked because Suzuki's primary focus is on their motorcycles.
What’s a $1000 when you’re buying a 20 year machine that you ride all the time. That’s 10 dollars extra a month lol
@@ourpresidentswallows6017 A Grizz would have actually been at least 2K more. After dealer fees and all that stuff a Grizz is at least 11K. I am happy with the KingQuad and that's all that matters.
Spot on evaluation of the state of the ATV world. For me i'm a kawasaki guy for my motorcycles since the early 80s but if i was to buy a Quad my money would go towards a Yamaha Grizzly . I have noticed among my friends that these machines offer the best bang for the buck and have matching power and reliability
I'd agree with that, and I'm a Kawi guy for bikes too.. My last one was a Vaquero
Grizz is a dog compared to a brute. The Yamaha is overall a better quad but Power isn’t even close. The biggest downfall on a brute force is ground clearance and suspension IMO with those spongy rear bullet proof brakes. If they fixed those 3 things it would crush the atv world.
Personally, I think you pretty much cannot go wrong with any of the major manufacturers, the Japanese Atvs are well proven to be reliable. Polaris and Can Am do not quite reach the same reliability level imo, but they will usually run circles around the Japanese counterparts. Obviously they put more strain on their drivetrain with those high powered engines. They are all quite capable, with only a few areas that any of them really stand out. For one, I have a 2014 Honda rancher, 23k miles on it, and the only things I have had to do is oil changes, and change many sets of tires. The thing just keeps on going. I also have an Outlander 800, and a Polaris magnum, both of which have well proven themselves to be trust worthy.
My opinion is that if Honda would push a bit more power from their machines, they would pick up quite a few more buyers. Reach into the middle range for power ratings in each category AND maintain their reliability, and they would really have the winning combination imo.
Great points! I wish Honda would do something new too...
Even thou the big ones makes some very very nice ATV’s. I went with a CFmoto Cforce 520L - value for money decision
Hear more and more guys going that route
@@DirtObseXXion Owned several CF´s and know others that have too, I have good experience with them, and has been treated well with the service places and so on, never had one fail for us, we mostly run ours in the wood loggin for 2 homes for wood and also snow plowing, and some on the roads too of course
For us it was also the value at first, but after several years, we will not change to a more expensive brands
Our oldest still runs that we sold, still runs fine at the new owners place, it went 1600km for a vacation this year :)
@@danne77sthlm Glad to hear that! Thanks for the input!
I won't even consider them, because financing communists is bad.
Two of my friends have brute force bikes. They rarely make it through a ride without a break down. Half the rides we go on they miss because they are working on them. When they run they are beasts but I would hate to spend half my riding time behind a tow rope. My honda's won't wheelie, won't win the sprint, and won't fling mud 20ft up in the air. They do however keep my anxiety level low, get me back home, help me enjoy riding instead of wrenching, sip gas, and just need regular maintenance.
I’ve got a 1998 Yamaha big bear 350 4x4 the thing is like a tank it’s not fast but it’s fun and tough but what atv you like is just a preference all have good and bad but if you’re happy with what you’ve got then that’s what’s best for you
Suzuki has amazing engines and the potential to make a incredible sxs.
I think they should bring the z400 back
@@DirtObseXXion I agree. People always looking for them where I live.
The Japanese machines are going to be way more reliable and that's just the facts
No argument here
He’s talking crap about Kawasaki building old machines , he’s wrong changing shit often causes more issues
@@Radbot776 You don't think the Brute or the Rincon needs an update? My point was that there are things that could make them better/ more current
That's not the way I see it now my 2017 Kodiak 700 not very good with problems, my 2018 Sportsman XP 1000 100% AWESOME no problems and has more miles on it because l don't ride the Kodiak anymore going to trade in for a Sportsman.
@@crazyflyboy30 hahahaha good fucking luck
I love my bruteforce 750 awesome bike. Thinking if makeing an up grade tho to a can am outlander xmr or sportman 850. Only reasson id leave the kawi brand if the fact that they dont make an 850
This was a great review! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks!
Love my grizzly but i wish yamaha would make a SUPERGRIZZLY with bigger twin cylinder engine jus do it pls pls pls
Grizzly over everything that's it that's all
I agree. Love my Grizzly
I'm in the market and i'm torn between my life long idolization of the grizz 700 and the power, options and design of the can am outlander 850. I know the grizz is going to be more reliable, but how much more. I don't want a bike that leaves me stranded every time i punch it but i find the can am sexier. and like the video said they have come along way in reliability.
I have a Grizzly and a Sportsman. They are both great machines, in my opinion.
Chad ahh man what a great video brother this is what people need to hear real deal truth. Ps loving my 2021 Xmr and that diff loc is long over due. But anyway brother great video tell the rest of the squad I said what’s up 💯💯💯💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
That's a beautiful machine AJ! Thanks brother!
Just sold my old 350 2000 Honda foreman 37000km to a buddy at work for his kids to abuse and still running strong. Great video and fair for sure one thing I would like to see is fuel economy and sound levels. Travelled 230km with a mix of quads all averaging 50km a hr my buddy 650 took $16. Bucks to fill up and my 2014 Honda foreman only $9. I might add I got a hundred pounds on my buddy lol. It is always a compromise for power and fuel consumption and for me hunting big game a quiet fuel efficient quad is the way to go for 150km plus hunts. But to each is own just everyone stay safe and have fun!!!
Good suggestions for next time, thanks
Little surprising Honda is number 2 and still ahead of can am! Great video 🤟
Hey fellas!!! I guess not everyone who buys em are enthusiasts.. CanAm is growing fast though, believe it or not they just didn't have the dealer network in the US that they needed to swing past Honda.. I think they will eventually
I get the overall sales part. In my area, can am sells like 5:1 of most other brands. You rarely find what model you want on the showroom floor. Polaris is the only close competitor. Im seeing a ton of CFmotos on the trails now as well here in MN.
I was also surprised ! I always thought Yamaha was #2 cause Honda's are much MORE expensive than Yamaha and Suzuki
@@DirtObseXXion I hear of major engine problems with the CanAm and I can notice the junky-cheap sound from the CanAm engines
@@BartStar009 The Rotax engine is one of the best ATV engines ever made.. Im not a canam guy, but I wouldn't deny that..
Yes my Sportsman XP 1000 is the best by far and with tire upgrade grade and a long list of other upgrades it's insane from fast trail blasting to climbing a rock wall.
Its a turd. The reverse breaks in the transmission. The c.v.t leaks water and will destroy the clutches. I have replaced 5 transmissions in 4 months at the dealership.
@@gwood701 I don't know what you do with your ATV'S but my 2018 Sportsman XP 1000 has been flawless for 3 years and it's Insane in every way possible Love it would not have anything else.
Fantastic videos. Props bro.
Thanks!
I have owned Yamaha, Honda, Polaris and Suzuki, in addition to a dealership. Good advise would be to listen to this mechanic!
I've Had 6 different Polaris and love them.
Buy a yahama. Honds like reliability with more power and fun
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Awesome vid man, relatively new subscriber here and I find all of your content very informative and well researched. Love the little flecks of humour you add in as well!
Soon to get rid of my 2017 Arctic Crap 700XT.
Leaning strongly (very), towards the Grizz 700 XTR...but also considering the Canned Ham offerings.
I have been so jaded by NA MFR reliability issues, that I swore my next quad would be Japanese only.
I ride aggressively, 90% trail/fire road, with the other 10% being bush, and/or un-maintained trails and mud.
So the question - based on your experience and overall riding trials/tests...would you recommend I follow my gut and rock the Grizz - or turn to the dark side and take the CanAm gamble?
That's a tuff choice but it's exactly the decision we'd have to make if we were buying a new 4x4.. We've been really impressed with CanAms build quality and reliability.. Two issues we had with our Outlander was that the suspension went squishy after about 8-900 miles of riding it hard and a fuel programmer was essential for managing heat .. That was the base model 1000 though so it had the pogo shocks.. We've spent a lot of time on the XTP test unit with the Fox Shocks and that's definitely an awesome set up.. That and crappy factory brake pads are our only complaints about the Outlander.. It's super fun and super solid.. I love the Grizzly too though, it's the most agile 4x4 on the market and probably the most reliable belt driven machine ever made.. I haven't ridden the XTR Grizz but I'd guess the downfall would be the tire set up because I can't imagine 27x10 zillas being good for aggressive trail riding.. They're perfect for sloppier stuff though.. My concern is that they'd make the machine a little sluggish... It really comes down to two things... 1. How much you want to spend and 2. How aggressive you want to ride. If if money isn't a huge concern and you care most about really hammering down, the Outlander is the obvious choice (850 or 1000 in the XTP trim).. If you want to keep the price reasonable, have damn near guaranteed reliability, and don't mind the limitations of a big single, then the Grizzly is perfect... Seriously, we talk about this exact decision all the time, Flyin Brian is down to the same exact choice because he recently sold his Outlander (a friend made an offer he couldn't refuse)
@@DirtObseXXion I hear you on the Zilla tires, I have them on my Arctic Cat albeit in the 25” variant.
I live in Canada so 3-4 months of my riding is in snow - and Zilla’s do well in the white stuff. I really like the Outlander 850 XTP - but with tax it’s near $20K CDN 🤯
The Grizz runs around $16K tax in.
All to say buying an ATV in these parts is not an inexpensive proposition! 😐
I do crave the v-twin grunt, but I always come back to the Grizz in my list of top 3.
The Yamaha CVT is a huge lure for me...they are so good, as is the Yamaha transmission and drive line...not to mention 4 wheel disc brakes and the handle bar mounted headlamp which I love (see where you turn is under-utilized on ATV’s IMO).
Sounds like I am selling myself on the Yammy here, lol
Given my experience with Arctic Cat, I crave reliability, expert engineering and tight quality control...but perhaps that same reason is unjustly steering me away from CanAm even though they are by and large solid machines, likewise is the case with Polaris but I have even more concerns with them.
Tough call is right - and I’m sure I’d be happy either way.
Good time to buy an ATV with all the choices at present...or maybe that just makes it more difficult!?!? 🤔
Can am all day but maybe cause I own the Lil 250 n has been solid as a rock. Not 1 issue with her since I've owned it. Couldn't keep up with the big quads but did hold is own on Hatfield and McCoys trails. Only rolled it once. Lol took on every trail even expert which I'm clearly not. Stood right next to the top Polaris of that year. 2012
That was quite the plethora of information sir. Very well constructed and presentation was top notch!
Your very well constructed
Come home, feed the dogs, turn on the tv, turn on the xbox, click on UA-cam, sees new dirt obsexxion video, watches video, likes video, comments on video, goes to bed and waits to do it again!
Groundhogs day!!!
Yamaha , bansheeeeee, bansheeeeeee!!! 😂🤣
I'm tryna get that lil jingle in as much as I can..
@@DirtObseXXion love it!
The banshees are incredible! My brother still has two of them. We get them out every summer and rip em! So much fun.
There was many different factors that came into play when I purchased my atv in February 2020. I test rode the "big 3" in my neck of the woods which are: can am, polaris, and yamaha. Polaris 850 xp offered a very plush ride, with a very linear feel on the throttle. Loved the narrow footwells, led lighting, and VERY comfortable seat. I couldnt stand the engine brake system on it though. Next, I rode the yamaha grizzly 700. I loved the power steering, engine brake system, and notably yamis uber reliable reputation. But being on the throttle, I felt myself wanting more. After 50mph it was very flat. Took seemingly forever to get from 50-60mph. Next was the can am 850xt. The clutching is brutal from engagement on. The rear suspension was a blast through the twisties, paired with the clutching. Engine braking was phenomenal. And the tri mode throttle is great. Foot placement was very wide, and shocks seemed very cheap for the cost of the machine. That being said, I went with the can am. I put over 800 miles on from february through october. Only changing the oil, and new brakes. But if yamaha comes out with and 850 for 2022. I will definately switch brands.
I like CanAm and Yamaha.. A big bore Grizzly is not happening, so I think you did good.. Very good assessment, I agree 100%
@@DirtObseXXion thank you! Love your videos!!
@@DirtObseXXion I thought I was subbed before. I am now!!
@@joebiker5992 Thanks brother! Definitely appreciate the support and the conversations!
Yamaha & Can Am #1
Bought a Kawasaki Prairie kvf400 4x4 1998. Got 15000 km on it. Had to buy a $200 front Axel 10 years ago. This fall, 4 bearings on the rear swing arm and a new secondary clutch total $800. All Canadian $. Bottom line, the best thing I ever owned. Not sure how the new ones are though.
Polaris is only #1 in sales because they are made of junk. And junk is cheep lol
I'm cheap... You calling me junk? 🤣🤣🤣🤘
@@DirtObseXXion you make awesome videos though lol that's the main thing haha 👍
Can am's are more junk than polaris. I see more of them on the side of the trail than polaris vehicles
@@xmonster741 lol thanks
@@colindavid9984 I'd agree if we're talking first gen Outlander.. But we've had 2 2019 1000s and they've been really good.. More c reliable than my Sportsman 1k
Honda for me, thx 😊
Nice!
That is some great info. Looking to buy a 4x4 soon
Awesome! I hope we helped a little bit!
Mine is an 82 KLT 250 but I need a replacement head and aren’t finding one.
It has been a great machine for nearly 40 years.
You're going to be better off finding a donor machine or engine as an whole.
Dirt obsession is the best way to start the morning!
Haha! YEAH BUDDDYY!!
With Honda’s very disappointing abandonment of the sport quad segment my hopes and dreams have shifted to a Walker Fowler edition Yamaha YFZ 450XC. Just imagine that. #savesportquads
That’s what you need for sure , speed! lol #savesportquads # lovesportquads !
Owned a few of these and I have to say
The old arctic cats with the Kawasaki’s were great machines for the price but sad what the new ones were. I still enjoy driving a buddies 2017 700 tho.
The grizzly is still the top overall quad in my books … it is truly just the perfect quad. If they could somehow drop a twin 800 in there and keep the driving characteristics I think they could be a top three all day. Can am’s 1000 is a ton of power and truly is a beast but is also very heavy and I dislike the heat along with shifter and transmission. But honestly everyone’s options is different and it’s extremely hard to pick a good machine.
Very good summary of the big brands. I completely agree with your 5-year projection. on the other hand, what about CFMoto? This Chinese manufacturer also seems more and more visible and its prices are very attractive.
I agree, they're moving up in the world.. I did another video that touched on why I believe they're going to edge out Arctic Cat.. If they keep pace, every OEM below top 5 should be concerned.. They still have a long way to go with dealer network though..
Polaris sucks
Lol! They get a "needs improvement" in our book
im a die hard honda fan..my wife and i decided on two four wheelers instead of a sxs. i bought hers first..it was a canam max 450. im so impressed im going to skip the rubicon and get an outlander xmr 850.
05 Suzuki Ozark still rocking with little too no maintenance till now cause I just bought it. Redoing the whole quad Lil bit by lil bit. Thing is solid still which surprised me
Very cool 😎
Great video guys tons of great!! information!
Lots of research went into this one I would say... Always well done!
Thanks KC!!!
I have a 1999 Honda foreman 400. Still runs great. But I do keep up on the maintenance.
Have a 2016 King Quad 500 9300km on it so far no issues.
Awesome!
Great comparison guys I am always a fan of the Honda it takes a beating hehehe Big like 120 hope you all have a Great Week 👍🎅
Thanks Chas! You too my friend
yamaha grizzly vs Outlander 850xtp. other than annual maintenance the only thing my old grizzly 550 has needed replaced in the last 6 years and 10,000 k's is the battery, would the outlander match that?
No I don't think it would.. Mainly because the added weight of the huge ATVs are harder on the rest of the components... Japanese manufacturers understand that, that's why Yamaha, Suzuki, and Honda don't bother putting twins in ATVs