Genthru is most akin to a power-gamer in this regard. His ability is designed for murder simply because murdering your opponent is typically the most efficient means of furthering your desires against another who's trying to do the same. I mean, they can't do much to argue against you if they're just a cadaver. He isn't immoral, he actually doesn't give a shit about morality. He tosses such magical-thinking bullshit aside because working within such a system is inefficient and would hinder his ability to achieve his goals. His ambition is absolutely everything in the world to him, nothing else matters. The reason he isn't a complex character is because he consciously decides not to be. Being complex is inefficient.
Exactly! there is no reason to find an stupid underlying explation to every single thing. Some poeple are just born that way, no need to give them same archtype as the rest of the villans. The actions are what defines such characters as genthuru, its not the reasons, you dont ask a serial killer for his reasons and try to morals in his words, he does bcuz it wants to.
I would say to NarutoSSj6 that everything has a reason, and to just generalize a human being, be it even a terrible person like Genthru, is--maybe not wrong, but not right either. At the same time, I agree with both of you, that you don't actually need to analyze everything, no matter how ironic that is to say on an analyst channel ;D
SaruStuff124, I am in no way dismissing the process of analysis. I'm saying the analysis comes to the conclusion that it makes logical sense for Genthru to refine his outward-facing personality and the purpose behind his actions to a razor's edge. His sociopathy gives him the *freedom* to ignore the worthless feelings of the plebeians. It gives him the *freedom* to focus on what's important; Getting what he wants.
I haven't watched this video yet (I am still on part one) so I don't know if the video mentions it, but the thing I loved about Genthru that fascinated me about and helped me understand his character so much, was through his Nen Ability, Little Flower. It didn't make much sense to me at first and was relatively inconsequential; however, when the battle between Netero and Meruem occured and Netero died I was confronted by that jaw dropping realization that Genthru's ability got its namesake from the Miniature Rose. Suddenly my mind was racing with conjectures about his backstory and history and what personal connection he could have had to the bomb. Maybe he could have had experiences with the bomb that influenced not only his Nen ability but his presence in the Greed Island Arc entirely. The amusement that I had garnered from that connection alone raised my approval and appreciation for the Greed Island arc substantially. I have never been so wowed by such subliminal storytelling ever before.
Nope, I didn’t mention it. That’s a very cool touch, I agree. Though to keep perspective I think it’s important to be open to the possibility that it’s just a reference or some sort of personal head-canon that Togashi added just for his own personal amusement that’ll never manifest in the story. Not everything has some grand meaning. However, that’s just me being a bit of a joykill. It is awesome to theorycraft about things like this and who knows? Maybe Genthru is part of some much bigger story and this is the allusion to it.
+Azazel the Misanthrope Oh man, that's one hell of an observation. I personally think it could've been a little bit of cheeky foreshadowing. It seems likely that Togashi knew mostly where he was going with the next arc at the time of writing Greed Island, so it's plausible.
Also it was specially made to survive in a video game. Because someone coming up to you and telling you cryptic lore is so natural for that setting. No players will try to run away or tell him to bug off because they are used to it.
One thing you could add at 11:03 is that Genthru served to develop the depth of Gon's character - In their fight, Gon sacrifices a limb not to win, but to prove to himself that Genthru was wrong to take him lightly. Gon delays the plan that the gang carefully crafted, risking not only his own life, but those of his freinds if the plan were to now fail, just so he can feel better about himself and prove Genthru wrong. As has been pointed out before, this moment was crucial in showing just how unhinged Gon can be, which culminates in the CA arc. Genthru is someone that 'normal' people would call insane, he's willing to kill others without a thought just to achieve a monetary goal. But to have Gon cause (normally) irreparable damage to himself in an ideological fight, just to prove his worth, when that worth is now wasted because he lost an arm? *That* is how insane Gon can be - so unhinged that an insane person calls them insane. To get that effect, Togashi needed a character that *wasn't* resolute in their goal. Genthru's just in it for the money - there's other ways to make money, he's never going to go 'off the deep end' in pursuit of completing Greed Island. He's not crazy, he's just taking advantage of an opportunity utilizing his skills of killing without remorse. But that makes him distant enough from the norm to be a terrifying unknown labeled as 'insane'. So when you contrast him with Gon, a character that *will* 'go off the deep end', it reveals more about Gon.
Yeah you’re exactly right. I talked about that in a previous video so I just kind of disregarded it as a point to make as a result, which is a shame because there was some stuff I could’ve said here that I hadn’t said before, but ah well. But very true, there’s a nice contrast in resolve due to this as well.
Wishful thinking huh? Look where wishful thinking got Gon when Kite died, fervent denial of the truth, intense murderous intent, and a deep unending spiral into a monstrosity....... But hey look at how cool Killua's skateboard is! :D
Very well said. Personally I kinda love how he looks like a background character. Like, from the start he blends in and seems insignificant because of that. And once he becomes the main villain of the arc...that stays the same. He doesn't pull off a mask to reveal his true appearance, he still looks just like a background character, even as he is running the show. And his presence as a character comes largely from his pragmatic brutality and strength, not the characterization itself. He's like if some nobody tertiary character became a main villain, and that amuses me.
For sure, that’s another reason why his bland character design was both important and a very clearly intentional thing. His design subtly changes in 2011 in particular (sharper lines on the face, harsher angles, etc) for understandable reasons but nothing changes apart from that at all.
Haha, that's funny, thinking about it, sure we haven't seen other hunter exams (I don't count Killuas pass the next year, that was domination) what do you think made Netero and more or less all of them judge 8 out of 9 would pass, indicating the applicants were that skilled? 4 out of 5 who made it that far did so with deadweight Tonpa following them around/stuck on their squad, just saying....
I have always thought Genthru as a shallow villain. Watching through the arc never once struck me as a darkarc. However, the point to me that changed this was when he asked Gon to heal his friend. His expression is changed and better yet, they tell him that, this was their plan all along. He is down and they can still kick him, he is changed. From my point of view, Genthru is someone that has power but lacking resolve. He is, as you just said, someone who looks for the easy route, doesn't bother to shed tears for low powerlevel characters. Gon defeated him in a sense, that he showed him that it is resolve that brings you to a higher level, you shouldn't just waste your talent on something so petty, like killing, when just your presence and skill is able to bring your what you want - just imagine what Genthru and his friends could achieve if they were to put some effort into their actions rather than exploiting the weak. They are more than capable of doing so - see risky dice encounter with Tzesugera's team. All in all, your video did shed new light on Genthru. Thank you for making these videos!
I'm glad that you brought that up - that little moment is a little hint to something more regarding him. This particular video wasn't really a character analysis so I didn't mention that but in looking at his psychology, that bit is key to his character, I think. He's definitely lacking in resolve as well, and that much is apparent throughout the entire arc.
I must question your definition of resolve then... Guy killed dozens, maybe even hundreds of people and Tzuguerra run like a chicken from him. Almost finished the game. Yeah, "no resolve".
Bernardo Heusi hm..maybe resolve is not the right word. Higher calling? Tzesugera has the same bloated ego, he realizes that he is outclassed by children, and as a character on the moral side of our protagonists, he joins them. To me, genthru is wasting his talent. You can fool and damage control many people ( see netero) but this was just petty and useless. ( Very goog videos on this chanel regarding gons morality. So, in hindsight I try to find Gons reason to defeat him
The theme of this arc was team play. And not only because of the awesome dodgeball game. Genthru was a psycho prick and would never find out how to get a team that would 1- Allow him to win the match versus Razor. FFS even Gon managed to use Hisoka. 2- Get intel from others that would make you beat your opponent. Gon was inferior to Genthru but having info from Biscuit made him win his fight - even if not by Biscuit´s plan. Not too hard to understand. But resolve, Genthro DID have.
I already accepted, that my interpretation of resolve was wrong( not my first language, I just felt that the word is right here, i was wrong! :D) My point was about whether he is shallow or not. Genthru knows what a team is capable in my opinion - hence his plan to use that mass of players. They have a release that they use together - they know that they have no chance to beat up Tzesugera so they steal from them, after all its 4 or 5 vs 3 - im sure they understand teams and information very well. Rather, he is bloated by ego and is petty besides being a psycho
Honestly, while he is looked down upon, there was something about his ferocity that I liked. While the overall tone of the arc was light, whenever he would be on screen or making a deal, I felt, uneasy. And in his fight with Gon, that reason was strengthened. He didn't need to be complex. He was just scary as hell. Lol
Absolutely, his ability fit him perfectly, what I really love about this entire arc is not only Gon Killua and Hisoka topping Razor but how Gon was clearly much weaker, less experienced, less aura, and in a way his lack of experience is why he won. I'm talking about how he thought how does Genthru not blow off his own hands, oh ok, if he uses both he has none to gaurd himself so kick to chin jajenkin ftw, I'd have preferred if that's how he won, not complaining was very good still. My point is like Genthru says what sane person would think of even trying that? Gon won not by getting mad and going aura v2 etc but the unique character mentalities and perceptions leading to unique strategies and the nen system, this fight is an excellent example of how and why the nen power system is so cool
@@awon6518 Makes it sad that most of the Chimera Ant arc plays it straight that power > experience & mentality. Meruem, Pitou, and Youpi just brute force their way through fights, whereas Pouf never actually fights, just runs away. The other lower Chimera Ants are just absurdly strong and gifted fighters to give Gon & Killua a run for their money, before Gon & Killua both get stronger and just beat them. Granted the arc is saved by having only having Pitou be killed through sheer power, and Gon is not rewarded for this level jump.
@@Champsr0ck2247 I don't think I understand you. Do you think the Chimera Ants were too strong? I don't think the arc would've worked better if they were weaker
@@Champsr0ck2247 I mean, you have to consider the ants weren't human, so the arc didn't really prove power > experience & mentality for us humans among each other, but it did prove there are things more powerful than us, and I think that's just about right
Most of this video is how I've always thought of Genthru when people say he's a bad villain, but I've never been able to structure my argument or thoughts as well as this video. Genthru's not a complex villain by any means, but you don't need a villain to be complex to be well-written, and Genthru fits the themes of this arc perfectly. Every time I rewatch the Greed Island arc, I appreciate Genthru more and more for how he complimented that arc, essentially being the epitome of the worst kind of gamers in the genre Greed Island was going for. Although, Gon's fight with Genthru is one of my favorite moments in the entire series, because it was so well put together. It wasn't a fight of who's stronger, but a fight of will and endurance. And despite how much Genthru outclassed Gon, Gon's victory still felt believable, unlike most turn-around fights in Shonen. People also tend to sleep on how strong Genthru was due to their disinterest in him, but Genthru was at least up there with Knuckle in terms of strength. That, and I kinda love Genthru's hatsu, more than I like Genthru if I'm being honest. His abilities weren't the most practical in a fight, but still very well-thought out, threatening, and fit Genthru's methods perfectly with how manipulatively they could be used. Little Flower and Countdown exemplified just how deadly and intellegent Nen abilities could be, especially Conjuration. Once again, great video, man!
Side-note: Genthru's responsible for one of the goriest moments of the manga, although I wouldn't say it's the most disgusting - but still graphic. So, I agree that his Hatsu is the real endearing thing about him just all-around; not just for the sake of gore in this instance of the shonen demographic
Wow I didn't expect this video so soon. I completely agree with you on how the theme and tone works in conjunction with how the villains and antagonists are used in the arcs, since it's something I noticed myself and it's nice to see that you think so as well. Greed Island was isolated from most of the overall narrative and only had a few ties to the overarching plot - so having the main antagonist be catered just for the arc made sense to me thematically. The arc was light hearted, it was a training arc and a breather after YorkNew and the Phantom Troupe - the themes just dark enough to not take the arc out of Hunter X Hunters overall narrative but light enough that you didn't have to think too hard about what was going on (naturally Togashi left some sneaky foreshadowing here because it would be either harder or easier to pick up on depending on how you view it) so in terms of arcs Greed Island is my 4th favourite but Genthru is far from my favourite villain but I understand his point in the arc enough that I never thought of him as a terrible villain. Also I'm still hoping to see a Killua video from you, or maybe one on Leorio but it's entirely up to you, I like watching your videos because you have a similar view on things as I do, only much more eloquent. Bye bye for now
Subject matter does not necessarily dictate tone... Something I never would have thought of but it makes perfect sense. Excellent video, Togashi should pay you for how well you highlight his genius.
Another character in HxH that I feel get way too much hate or is often overlooked, is Welfin. A lot of people didn't care for him and found it annoying how he took som much screen-time during the Palace Invasion, which I just don't get. His characterization is great and he is one of the most fleshed out and developed Chimera Ants. Just take a look at this Reddit post & the top-comment for more details: www.reddit.com/r/HunterXHunter/comments/67r2jn/lets_talk_about_welfin/. He was a very entertaining character and his inner monolouges was almost always interesting, imo. It's a real shame that hardly anyone is talking about him and whenever someone do; it's often just complaints.
Genthru has realism and motivation, thats enough for me to pass as a antagonist. The notion of the stronger to step on those below them to reach higher grounds while being like psychopaths. Thats how life is to an extent. When people slaughter others bcuz those are considered to be belonging to a lower class, and doing that with gruesome means, its history, not shallowness and bad constrution for a character. Therefore you shouldnt demand more of an antagoinist with pure ill will to reach his goal. The importance with such characters are thier choices for reaching their goals, not the characters themselves, its the trip to their goals which are intressting, they themselves are psychoplaths or conditioned psychopaths. In hxh the thing that moved me was how all those nen user got needlessly killed, how Pues head ended in a paper bag, how the main characters was forced to make actions, all those gears was set in motion bcuz genthuru, he set the motion to all and that defines his amount of interest. Genthurus personality itself is basic, plain and predictable, but, its realistic and leads to sensational scenes, which differs from other such characters in other shows. No need to justify the greed Island arc even if there are reasons, its an arc for itself, an not much of prepration to the ant arc more than the ant arc is in preperation for its preceeding election arc. One of my fav arcs, it got ne shocked a couple of times.
I like how Genthru, throughout the Greed Island arc, makes deals with other players but doesn't stick to his word, usually stealing their cards from them. This type of personality is what made everyone dislike him and it made him seem like he had less of a personality. Usually, the likable villains wouldn't cheat or lie in these sorts of situations but this is also what makes Genthru different from all of them (like you said, in desperation). He is a toned-down, normal human villain compared to the rest of the villains who have extreme personalities that we might not see in real life. He is someone who would have to cheat to be able to complete the game, something that we would have done before - we just don't like to admit it. I think that it's okay to have a dislikable villain as we all just simply can't sympathize with everyone. I like how at the end, we really do see a caring side to him when he tells Gon to heal his friends and not himself. We see that he does care for certain others which completely going against what he had done throughout the arc.
Wow, I feel like I learn a lot about writing and story mechanics when watching your videos. Plus it actually holds my attention since its based on a hobby I care about deeply (anime/manga). I hope I can write as well as you some day. Keep up the great work!
After watching the Greed Island arc for a second time (dub version), I've come to love it even more. I don't get why its hated, they introduced awesome characters like Genthru, Razor, Bisky, etc. We even got to see Hisoka and the GOAT Troupe again, and that boss ass dodgeball game so what's the problem? Just because it didn't have the same greatness like the Yorknew Arc doesn't mean it was a bad arc.
SSJ Flash I agree. Greed Island gave us: 1. Our boys training 2. Got the best dodgeball game ever. 3. IMO one of the best fights in HxH, Genthru vs. Gon. 4. The introduction of Bisky. 5. Hisoka......being Hisoka. XD Now I won't lie though. I wasn't a huge fan of the card game. Despite growing up with Yugioh. But besides that I enjoyed the arc.
Im nit gonna say the Greed island arc is bad (mostly cause i missed more episodes in that arc then any other) but isn't the "just cause it's not as good doesn't mean its bad" agruement used for everything that just that, like zelda 2 :/
Hey, just wanted to say thank you for these videos. Only recently watched Hunter X Hunter and these videos are really giving me more appreciation for the series as a whole. Great stuff.
Your videos are just absolute genius and I appreciate the time and passion you put into them. I’d love to see a video breakdown on Alluka/Nanika, I’m sure you’d nail it!
Dude you really deserve more subscribers, your videos are really well put together, your ideas and meanings are put across in a way that's easy to fully understand, and just listening to the build-up ultimately culminating in the point you're trying to get across is just enjoyable. Watching your HxH videos literally brought a thankful tear to my eye, reminding me of just how much importance and impact most of the moments in the anime/manga had. Good job man, good job.
@Aleczandxr He was not my least favorite main villain of an arc because of two reasons: 1. His Nen ability is similar to Killer Queen’s abilities from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure (totally not biased) 2. Tonpa exists and is still alive in the story.
"By beating him, he's showing that his choice at the beginning of the arc to reject the speedrun, and take the slower path with more potential for growth, was the right one." Tragic, knowing what he does in the next arc.
I've always felt that Genthru, and Greed Island in general, were underrated. It's not that they are my favorite arc or anything by a long shot, though I don't feel the particular dislike for them that some people seem to. It's more of that I feel that after dealing with the phantom troop we needed a breather even if we didn't realize it at the time. HXH has is dark, pointed moments, but those moments wouldn't stand out of have the impact that they do if they were happening all the time. It's because they are set against a lighter background that they stand out the way they do. The lighter arcs also serve the function of making it so that people that cannot or will not watch things that are entirely dark still are able to enjoy the series. To this point, Genthru is vital precisely because he is NOT as complex of a villain as many of the others are. Genthru doesn't really stand out, but because has doesn't stand out, Chrollo and Merum stand out all the more. In the same way that many of the darker arcs are able to more clearly able to make their points because they stand out against the lighter arcs, Chrollo and Merum stand out the more because Genthru doesn't. It shifts the emphasis to the characters that we're supposed to pay attention to. And, as you said, that is a good thing.
I love your analysis videos, you layout your ideas in a way that is at the same time easily understandable (even though the theme is quite complex), and very fun to watch. I've been following your channel for over a year, and I can say that you have been getting better and better. Keep up the great work, congratulations!!!
Genthru may not be a popular character in the series but when HxH fans talk about their favorite fights & moments? Genthru vs. Gon is definitely one of those best moments/fights of the series. Best parts of Greed Island for me: 1. The dodgeball game 2. Gon vs. Genthru 3. Hisoka........being Hisoka. XD
I'd love a comparison of 1999 and 2011 in the arcs that have been covered by both. Or at least Yorknew. Nit vs necessarily but how they handled different plot points and such.
Man I love your videos. You articulate perfectly just what it is that makes the series so brilliant. Anybody watching it can tell that it's brilliant, but it's never easy to explain why.
Awesome 2 part videos :) Just the other day I actually said I disliked him, but you convinced me he isnt as bad as I thought. It made me appreciate the story more, thanks !
It's is a skill to attempt and succeed in making a a video (about a lot of people's least favorite arc and a villain ) INTERESTING and make people keep focus on something that is not necessarily their favorite moment ! BRAVO yet again
I didn't need convincing here with GI being my second favorite arc (sue me), but this is an awesome breakdown of the various themes present in each arc and how the characters play into those themes. I had never really even considered how much of an effect the antagonist of each arc had on the tone. Keep up the great content, best anime-related youtuber out there!
I didn't mean number one. I generally think of the top 3 arcs as someone's "favourite" arcs (referring to any one of them as *a* favourite), with their number 1 being *the* favourite. I should've mentioned that though.
Genthru was easely underestimated. After seeing Gon and Killua own everyone except Razor during the arc. Seeing Genthru almost blow both Gon's hands off, really was surprising. I hope we get to see him again sometime. So if Bisky is second best girl, who's number one? Mito? Machi? Melody? Palm? Pitou?........Kite?
just dropping comment here to say that i'm so glad i found your Hunter x Hunter analysis video. Im glad i watched HxH analysis video from you because after watching it, i suddenly want more! watching an anime analysis video isnt something i ever did before and i never thought it would be this interesting. I really like the way you describe every single thing with sincere and seriousness, because aftervl watching all your HxH disscussion i tried to search another one from other youtuber, but i couldnt find someone who describe it as sincere as you. well i did find it but idk somehow there's something missing so i end up coming back to your channel again x'D oh one thing that i really want to know from you is how you see the friendship between Gon and Killua. i ever read this in a blog that their friendship is kinda unbalance and unhealthy (in this case for Killua). i dont mean it in that way but after reading that blog i kinda agree that Killua always do anything for the sake of Gon, While the selfish Gon only thinking how it is to achieve his goal without caring the people around here. Killua often hurt by Gon but he didnt really care as long as Gon achieve what he want. Seeing this making me sad somehow... oh my god what have i done, i typed so much. im sorry but since i already typed it i will post it anyway lol. Hoping for more video from you soon!
Kind of reminds me of one of Leorio's functions, being the most normal of the dazzling potentials around him. But interestingly enough--not that the gaming community hasn't suffered enough for this, but Genthru is kind of the embodiment of how a lot of us act in games.... just saying XD That's why only ideas should be taken seriously, and never the medium itself. But all art mediums, imho, are vessels for driving what's most important ahead, and that's pretty freakin' cool by itself if you ask me :P
Mr. Aleczandr Thank you for these breakdowns. They have been helping me so much as far as my writing style and everything, especially your HxH breakdowns have helped me with the writing of my upcoming webtoon NKLHDZ. Thank you so much because I feel like you were the linchpin as far as figuring out how to write good characters for specific arcs.
Thank you for this analysis series! It brought up some really interesting topics of how HxH is structured overall. Personally I found Genthru forgettable because of everything else the arc was setting up at the time. While I did find enjoyment from him Genthru sort of faded to the background. With the arrival of The Phantom Troupe and Hisoka, who are my favorite villain from the show I was more inclined to watch them and ended up playing favorites. Still I don't find Genthru falling into the background bad. Actually, he might be a positive, like you said. Although I barely remember him in favor of others, he served the arc well. He was intimidating but not so much that I felt he was forced. If this was in a real world sense he'd be the player that constantly followed you requesting a battle and then beating you with the strongest weapon he could find. This might make you angry but you'll work to get up to his level and maybe challenge him again. Genthru is a good stepping stone to better themes and I can appreciate what he does story-wise.
Thanks for watching and I’m glad it was useful! I more or less agree with everything you said here. He isn’t supposed to shine as a villain. He’s supposed to help the other elements shine.
Hey, relatively new here and commenting for the first time (that I remember) on your vids. I want to be a writer and you talking about the purpose of characters and story structure has given me a lot to consider when crafting my stories. (I also like this show and watching your videos gives me a new application for it, which is a major plus.) Thank you very much and keep up the good work.
Greed Island was actually my favorite arc in the manga. The anime rushed the pacing of Greed Island a bit and on the other hand some of the longer parts of the Chimera Ant Arc are better in the anime, due to the controlled pacing, the build-up is easy to marathon, but a bit less engaging to actually read through.
I actually didn't mind the pacing in the 2011 anime. I think 1999 stumbles a bit with Greed Island, though. It's been a while since I saw those OVAs but they were comfortably the weakest adaptation of the manga for me.
The first time Genthru shows up in the anime you would never expect that he will be the main villain of the saga, his design is pretty in line with is role and personality, you can like it or not but he's well written. He's a guy in a world that can repay you well if you act with brute force.
This is by far one of the best analytical channels on UA-cam imo. I have to admit, I had some mixed feelings about HxH, was confused (say with Gon's and shows overall morality) and in general didn't love it as much as everyone seemed to. And thanks god I found your channel. I'm not going to love HxH, probably just not my style, but thanks to your essays I understand it better now and learned from it (and that is very precious to me as a amateur writer). Thank you for those awesome videos. Edit: And yeah, I like 2 parts videos as long as it's good for you. It's much better this way than if you didn't make this one just because it would be too long or something.
Thanks so much and thanks for watching! Yeah, I divided this up because together I think the video would be too long, covering too many things for one sitting. And I usually don't like dividing longer videos because it dulls the impact of the message, but I didn't think that would be a problem here.
Nice second part! Your voice is full of conviction and provides a compelling argument Some more constructive criticism, when putting text corrections of your speech, make them longer!!!! It's infuriating to go back and pause, also I feel that this video is very on topic, that is not my complaint, I feel you should come back to genthru more often because you come across as rambling even though the subject matter is on topic. Hope this is helpful!
That's a personal thing, I don't like them being there long. I just expect people to go back and pause if they're really interested, not read it for as long as it's up. Sorry, haha. *I feel you should come back to genthru more often because you come across as rambling even though the subject matter is on topic.*
Aleczandxr umm, unsure how to explain, you talk about things that relate to genthru, but it is hard to relate the two since you do not go back to genthru often enough in my opinion this is a personal opinion and I would like to say that I still enjoy your videos, these are just minor things I noticed
*you talk about things that relate to genthru, but it is hard to relate the two since you do not go back to genthru often enough in my opinion* Do you have an example? Or if you're talking about the bits where I describe why certain villains worked with relation to their arcs (Chrollo, Meruem, etc) - they had nothing to do with Genthru. Through that, I was showing how and why villains are constructed certain ways with regards to their arcs and showing this pattern throughout the whole series, and then the Genthru part uses that bigger picture thinking. If I mentioned Genthru during those parts it would be jarring and pretty irrelevant.
Aleczandxr yes, that was what I was talking about! I understand your reasons better now and agree, but I couldn't help but feel that genthru was mentioned pretty late into the video, if he was mentioned earlier, if only briefly, the video would feel more on topic and in MY opinion flow better, but no matter what you do just know I am not trying to bash this channel, and this is a very minor detail that in all does not stop me from enjoying your content
I know you're not bashing my channel, lol. There's no problem at all, I just want to explain myself here. *I couldn't help but feel that genthru was mentioned pretty late into the video, if he was mentioned earlier, if only briefly, the video would feel more on topic and in MY opinion flow better* You're right, and I know - that's why I put a disclaimer in part one. But Genthru was only half the story, and he could be explained using my reasoning from earlier, so that was how I had to structure the video. Defending Genthru was only one of the two points of these videos - the other half being an examination of Togashi's arc structure/style and how that relates to villains. That's a topic that takes more time to explain and something that I use as framework to argue for Genthru, so naturally it takes up the bulk of the time. TLDR; Genthru wasn't the most important point here, he's just one part of a bigger picture.
I'm going to be honest, because of his function, I can't help but say Genthru is like my second favorite villain, because reading and watching greed island has helped me learn about functionality in writing. For me, my second experience with HxH, which I read, was all about dissecting the functions of the arcs and how they came together into what they currently are. Which made *Greed Island* a treat for me to dissect from at least a function standpoint.
Genthru to me is a final boss of an RPG, which personally felt so satisfying when Gon was able to beat him while him being obviously "underleveled" in terms of nen and combat skills but he had a plan and it worked.
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Genthru is most akin to a power-gamer in this regard. His ability is designed for murder simply because murdering your opponent is typically the most efficient means of furthering your desires against another who's trying to do the same. I mean, they can't do much to argue against you if they're just a cadaver. He isn't immoral, he actually doesn't give a shit about morality. He tosses such magical-thinking bullshit aside because working within such a system is inefficient and would hinder his ability to achieve his goals. His ambition is absolutely everything in the world to him, nothing else matters. The reason he isn't a complex character is because he consciously decides not to be. Being complex is inefficient.
Exactly! there is no reason to find an stupid underlying explation to every single thing. Some poeple are just born that way, no need to give them same archtype as the rest of the villans. The actions are what defines such characters as genthuru, its not the reasons, you dont ask a serial killer for his reasons and try to morals in his words, he does bcuz it wants to.
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I would say to NarutoSSj6 that everything has a reason, and to just generalize a human being, be it even a terrible person like Genthru, is--maybe not wrong, but not right either. At the same time, I agree with both of you, that you don't actually need to analyze everything, no matter how ironic that is to say on an analyst channel ;D
SaruStuff124, I am in no way dismissing the process of analysis. I'm saying the analysis comes to the conclusion that it makes logical sense for Genthru to refine his outward-facing personality and the purpose behind his actions to a razor's edge. His sociopathy gives him the *freedom* to ignore the worthless feelings of the plebeians. It gives him the *freedom* to focus on what's important; Getting what he wants.
Yeah, absolutely. You're fine, both of you. The more I reread your comment as well, the more it makes sense--if that makes sense? lol. Cheers.
I actually liked Greed Island. The characters were likeable and it had the most intense dodgeball game I've ever seen.
And bisky
Greed Island was the lowest point of Hunter x Hunter in my opinion.
@@carldrogo9492 Honestly, the Hunter Exam was the low point IMO. The entire show is absolutely amazing though.
Blksmt there’s a difference between “lowest” and “low”
Filip Ferenčak Agree. Gets really good after they unlock nen.
I haven't watched this video yet (I am still on part one) so I don't know if the video mentions it, but the thing I loved about Genthru that fascinated me about and helped me understand his character so much, was through his Nen Ability, Little Flower. It didn't make much sense to me at first and was relatively inconsequential; however, when the battle between Netero and Meruem occured and Netero died I was confronted by that jaw dropping realization that Genthru's ability got its namesake from the Miniature Rose. Suddenly my mind was racing with conjectures about his backstory and history and what personal connection he could have had to the bomb. Maybe he could have had experiences with the bomb that influenced not only his Nen ability but his presence in the Greed Island Arc entirely. The amusement that I had garnered from that connection alone raised my approval and appreciation for the Greed Island arc substantially. I have never been so wowed by such subliminal storytelling ever before.
Nope, I didn’t mention it. That’s a very cool touch, I agree. Though to keep perspective I think it’s important to be open to the possibility that it’s just a reference or some sort of personal head-canon that Togashi added just for his own personal amusement that’ll never manifest in the story. Not everything has some grand meaning.
However, that’s just me being a bit of a joykill. It is awesome to theorycraft about things like this and who knows? Maybe Genthru is part of some much bigger story and this is the allusion to it.
+Azazel the Misanthrope Oh man, that's one hell of an observation. I personally think it could've been a little bit of cheeky foreshadowing. It seems likely that Togashi knew mostly where he was going with the next arc at the time of writing Greed Island, so it's plausible.
You may be onto something here!
Side-note: Genthru is just a tad more terrifying in the manga
That increased my appreciation for his character just a tad more, which is nice. Thank you for pointing this out to me
Also it was specially made to survive in a video game. Because someone coming up to you and telling you cryptic lore is so natural for that setting. No players will try to run away or tell him to bug off because they are used to it.
One thing you could add at 11:03 is that Genthru served to develop the depth of Gon's character - In their fight, Gon sacrifices a limb not to win, but to prove to himself that Genthru was wrong to take him lightly. Gon delays the plan that the gang carefully crafted, risking not only his own life, but those of his freinds if the plan were to now fail, just so he can feel better about himself and prove Genthru wrong. As has been pointed out before, this moment was crucial in showing just how unhinged Gon can be, which culminates in the CA arc. Genthru is someone that 'normal' people would call insane, he's willing to kill others without a thought just to achieve a monetary goal. But to have Gon cause (normally) irreparable damage to himself in an ideological fight, just to prove his worth, when that worth is now wasted because he lost an arm? *That* is how insane Gon can be - so unhinged that an insane person calls them insane.
To get that effect, Togashi needed a character that *wasn't* resolute in their goal. Genthru's just in it for the money - there's other ways to make money, he's never going to go 'off the deep end' in pursuit of completing Greed Island. He's not crazy, he's just taking advantage of an opportunity utilizing his skills of killing without remorse. But that makes him distant enough from the norm to be a terrifying unknown labeled as 'insane'. So when you contrast him with Gon, a character that *will* 'go off the deep end', it reveals more about Gon.
Yeah you’re exactly right. I talked about that in a previous video so I just kind of disregarded it as a point to make as a result, which is a shame because there was some stuff I could’ve said here that I hadn’t said before, but ah well. But very true, there’s a nice contrast in resolve due to this as well.
Im going too use "but hey look how cool Killua's skateboard is too cheer myself up whenever things are going shit
I heartily approve.
...Or how cool the way he uses it is
Ahh crap, wasnt expecting you to upload so quickly and now i am already 30 minutes late. But hey, look at how cool killua's scateboard is.
I would love for that quote to become a thing for comments on here. Wishful thinking though, probably.
Wishful thinking huh? Look where wishful thinking got Gon when Kite died, fervent denial of the truth, intense murderous intent, and a deep unending spiral into a monstrosity....... But hey look at how cool Killua's skateboard is! :D
Joseph Headley this is gonna soon become a meme. Death by killua scateboards...
Zero Oh I honestly want it to! I've had enough of Ugandan Knuckles and tidepods. We need something intellectual like Killua's killer skateboard.
Very well said.
Personally I kinda love how he looks like a background character. Like, from the start he blends in and seems insignificant because of that. And once he becomes the main villain of the arc...that stays the same. He doesn't pull off a mask to reveal his true appearance, he still looks just like a background character, even as he is running the show. And his presence as a character comes largely from his pragmatic brutality and strength, not the characterization itself. He's like if some nobody tertiary character became a main villain, and that amuses me.
For sure, that’s another reason why his bland character design was both important and a very clearly intentional thing. His design subtly changes in 2011 in particular (sharper lines on the face, harsher angles, etc) for understandable reasons but nothing changes apart from that at all.
When's your Tonpa analysis?
Never coming. I don’t have the analytical skills to tackle such a task.
Too dark and complicated
Haha, that's funny, thinking about it, sure we haven't seen other hunter exams (I don't count Killuas pass the next year, that was domination) what do you think made Netero and more or less all of them judge 8 out of 9 would pass, indicating the applicants were that skilled?
4 out of 5 who made it that far did so with deadweight Tonpa following them around/stuck on their squad, just saying....
@@Aleczandxr actually tonpa has lot mystery in him believe it or not
@_______ just think about he kept entering the exam 35 time anyone would gived up for wining first then last for troling
Greed Island is a better SAO than SAO
_ouch_
Yup. TOME and .hack too
Anything is better than SAO
@@JesseLamdon A literal dumpster fire is about the same tho
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Nah, i’d be more interested by the dumpster fire
Man, you’re a great writer.
Holy shit. You used the write version of your.
Thank you!
@@SangoProductions213 lmao
I have always thought Genthru as a shallow villain. Watching through the arc never once struck me as a darkarc. However, the point to me that changed this was when he asked Gon to heal his friend. His expression is changed and better yet, they tell him that, this was their plan all along. He is down and they can still kick him, he is changed. From my point of view, Genthru is someone that has power but lacking resolve. He is, as you just said, someone who looks for the easy route, doesn't bother to shed tears for low powerlevel characters. Gon defeated him in a sense, that he showed him that it is resolve that brings you to a higher level, you shouldn't just waste your talent on something so petty, like killing, when just your presence and skill is able to bring your what you want - just imagine what Genthru and his friends could achieve if they were to put some effort into their actions rather than exploiting the weak. They are more than capable of doing so - see risky dice encounter with Tzesugera's team.
All in all, your video did shed new light on Genthru. Thank you for making these videos!
I'm glad that you brought that up - that little moment is a little hint to something more regarding him. This particular video wasn't really a character analysis so I didn't mention that but in looking at his psychology, that bit is key to his character, I think. He's definitely lacking in resolve as well, and that much is apparent throughout the entire arc.
I must question your definition of resolve then... Guy killed dozens, maybe even hundreds of people and Tzuguerra run like a chicken from him. Almost finished the game. Yeah, "no resolve".
Bernardo Heusi hm..maybe resolve is not the right word. Higher calling? Tzesugera has the same bloated ego, he realizes that he is outclassed by children, and as a character on the moral side of our protagonists, he joins them. To me, genthru is wasting his talent. You can fool and damage control many people ( see netero) but this was just petty and useless. ( Very goog videos on this chanel regarding gons morality. So, in hindsight I try to find Gons reason to defeat him
The theme of this arc was team play. And not only because of the awesome dodgeball game. Genthru was a psycho prick and would never find out how to get a team that would
1- Allow him to win the match versus Razor. FFS even Gon managed to use Hisoka.
2- Get intel from others that would make you beat your opponent. Gon was inferior to Genthru but having info from Biscuit made him win his fight - even if not by Biscuit´s plan.
Not too hard to understand. But resolve, Genthro DID have.
I already accepted, that my interpretation of resolve was wrong( not my first language, I just felt that the word is right here, i was wrong! :D) My point was about whether he is shallow or not.
Genthru knows what a team is capable in my opinion - hence his plan to use that mass of players. They have a release that they use together - they know that they have no chance to beat up Tzesugera so they steal from them, after all its 4 or 5 vs 3 - im sure they understand teams and information very well. Rather, he is bloated by ego and is petty besides being a psycho
Honestly, while he is looked down upon, there was something about his ferocity that I liked. While the overall tone of the arc was light, whenever he would be on screen or making a deal, I felt, uneasy. And in his fight with Gon, that reason was strengthened. He didn't need to be complex. He was just scary as hell. Lol
tailedgates9 i fully agree
Absolutely, his ability fit him perfectly, what I really love about this entire arc is not only Gon Killua and Hisoka topping Razor but how Gon was clearly much weaker, less experienced, less aura, and in a way his lack of experience is why he won.
I'm talking about how he thought how does Genthru not blow off his own hands, oh ok, if he uses both he has none to gaurd himself so kick to chin jajenkin ftw, I'd have preferred if that's how he won, not complaining was very good still. My point is like Genthru says what sane person would think of even trying that? Gon won not by getting mad and going aura v2 etc but the unique character mentalities and perceptions leading to unique strategies and the nen system, this fight is an excellent example of how and why the nen power system is so cool
@@awon6518 Makes it sad that most of the Chimera Ant arc plays it straight that power > experience & mentality. Meruem, Pitou, and Youpi just brute force their way through fights, whereas Pouf never actually fights, just runs away. The other lower Chimera Ants are just absurdly strong and gifted fighters to give Gon & Killua a run for their money, before Gon & Killua both get stronger and just beat them.
Granted the arc is saved by having only having Pitou be killed through sheer power, and Gon is not rewarded for this level jump.
@@Champsr0ck2247 I don't think I understand you. Do you think the Chimera Ants were too strong? I don't think the arc would've worked better if they were weaker
@@Champsr0ck2247 I mean, you have to consider the ants weren't human, so the arc didn't really prove power > experience & mentality for us humans among each other, but it did prove there are things more powerful than us, and I think that's just about right
Most of this video is how I've always thought of Genthru when people say he's a bad villain, but I've never been able to structure my argument or thoughts as well as this video.
Genthru's not a complex villain by any means, but you don't need a villain to be complex to be well-written, and Genthru fits the themes of this arc perfectly. Every time I rewatch the Greed Island arc, I appreciate Genthru more and more for how he complimented that arc, essentially being the epitome of the worst kind of gamers in the genre Greed Island was going for.
Although, Gon's fight with Genthru is one of my favorite moments in the entire series, because it was so well put together. It wasn't a fight of who's stronger, but a fight of will and endurance. And despite how much Genthru outclassed Gon, Gon's victory still felt believable, unlike most turn-around fights in Shonen. People also tend to sleep on how strong Genthru was due to their disinterest in him, but Genthru was at least up there with Knuckle in terms of strength.
That, and I kinda love Genthru's hatsu, more than I like Genthru if I'm being honest. His abilities weren't the most practical in a fight, but still very well-thought out, threatening, and fit Genthru's methods perfectly with how manipulatively they could be used. Little Flower and Countdown exemplified just how deadly and intellegent Nen abilities could be, especially Conjuration.
Once again, great video, man!
Side-note: Genthru's responsible for one of the goriest moments of the manga, although I wouldn't say it's the most disgusting - but still graphic.
So, I agree that his Hatsu is the real endearing thing about him just all-around; not just for the sake of gore in this instance of the shonen demographic
Woah, Fair points all around but as strong as Knuckle, hold on cowboy.
Kitt Spiken he was definitely on knuckles level in combat ability
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Wow I didn't expect this video so soon.
I completely agree with you on how the theme and tone works in conjunction with how the villains and antagonists are used in the arcs, since it's something I noticed myself and it's nice to see that you think so as well.
Greed Island was isolated from most of the overall narrative and only had a few ties to the overarching plot - so having the main antagonist be catered just for the arc made sense to me thematically. The arc was light hearted, it was a training arc and a breather after YorkNew and the Phantom Troupe - the themes just dark enough to not take the arc out of Hunter X Hunters overall narrative but light enough that you didn't have to think too hard about what was going on (naturally Togashi left some sneaky foreshadowing here because it would be either harder or easier to pick up on depending on how you view it) so in terms of arcs Greed Island is my 4th favourite but Genthru is far from my favourite villain but I understand his point in the arc enough that I never thought of him as a terrible villain.
Also I'm still hoping to see a Killua video from you, or maybe one on Leorio but it's entirely up to you, I like watching your videos because you have a similar view on things as I do, only much more eloquent.
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Thank you. And I've always said that I intend to make a Killua video and a Leorio video and that hasn't changed.
Whenever I sit down to work on a story, I always listen to one of your analytical videos first. They always get my mind running!
I never clicked so fast on a video all year. Love your multi part essays!
Subject matter does not necessarily dictate tone... Something I never would have thought of but it makes perfect sense. Excellent video, Togashi should pay you for how well you highlight his genius.
Haha, not sure about that but I really appreciate it!
I mean take a look at hellsing abridged.
Best analytical chanel on youtube. Period.
Without a doubt. That is why i also want him to take a look at other great anime and hear his thoughts.
Zero I love hxh, but hopefully he'll do more of something like FMA:B
Zero Stop it, get some serious fucking help.
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Another character in HxH that I feel get way too much hate or is often overlooked, is Welfin.
A lot of people didn't care for him and found it annoying how he took som much screen-time during the Palace Invasion, which I just don't get. His characterization is great and he is one of the most fleshed out and developed Chimera Ants. Just take a look at this Reddit post & the top-comment for more details: www.reddit.com/r/HunterXHunter/comments/67r2jn/lets_talk_about_welfin/.
He was a very entertaining character and his inner monolouges was almost always interesting, imo. It's a real shame that hardly anyone is talking about him and whenever someone do; it's often just complaints.
I plan on eventually doing a video on him. Who knows though, maybe that post covers it all and there's no need, haha.
Welfin gets hate? Wow, that's not right... But hey, look how cool Killua's skateboard is.
I always feels like Welfin when I overthink something so much that I get wrong lul.
Genthru has realism and motivation, thats enough for me to pass as a antagonist. The notion of the stronger to step on those below them to reach higher grounds while being like psychopaths. Thats how life is to an extent. When people slaughter others bcuz those are considered to be belonging to a lower class, and doing that with gruesome means, its history, not shallowness and bad constrution for a character. Therefore you shouldnt demand more of an antagoinist with pure ill will to reach his goal. The importance with such characters are thier choices for reaching their goals, not the characters themselves, its the trip to their goals which are intressting, they themselves are psychoplaths or conditioned psychopaths. In hxh the thing that moved me was how all those nen user got needlessly killed, how Pues head ended in a paper bag, how the main characters was forced to make actions, all those gears was set in motion bcuz genthuru, he set the motion to all and that defines his amount of interest. Genthurus personality itself is basic, plain and predictable, but, its realistic and leads to sensational scenes, which differs from other such characters in other shows. No need to justify the greed Island arc even if there are reasons, its an arc for itself, an not much of prepration to the ant arc more than the ant arc is in preperation for its preceeding election arc. One of my fav arcs, it got ne shocked a couple of times.
You make me want to watch hxh all over again
I like how Genthru, throughout the Greed Island arc, makes deals with other players but doesn't stick to his word, usually stealing their cards from them. This type of personality is what made everyone dislike him and it made him seem like he had less of a personality. Usually, the likable villains wouldn't cheat or lie in these sorts of situations but this is also what makes Genthru different from all of them (like you said, in desperation). He is a toned-down, normal human villain compared to the rest of the villains who have extreme personalities that we might not see in real life. He is someone who would have to cheat to be able to complete the game, something that we would have done before - we just don't like to admit it. I think that it's okay to have a dislikable villain as we all just simply can't sympathize with everyone. I like how at the end, we really do see a caring side to him when he tells Gon to heal his friends and not himself. We see that he does care for certain others which completely going against what he had done throughout the arc.
13:38, yeah cause Kurapika is obviously best #1 grill
Nah, Kite is the best girl
Gabe Nah, Alluka is the best girl
@@KittSpiken Melody without question
@@KittSpiken Bisky best milf
Kitt Spiken neferpitou bruh
Wow, I feel like I learn a lot about writing and story mechanics when watching your videos. Plus it actually holds my attention since its based on a hobby I care about deeply (anime/manga). I hope I can write as well as you some day. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
That was a very well constructed defense, fantastic job.
Much appreciated!
I literally finished part 1 30 seconds ago, I’m living the dream
After watching the Greed Island arc for a second time (dub version), I've come to love it even more. I don't get why its hated, they introduced awesome characters like Genthru, Razor, Bisky, etc. We even got to see Hisoka and the GOAT Troupe again, and that boss ass dodgeball game so what's the problem? Just because it didn't have the same greatness like the Yorknew Arc doesn't mean it was a bad arc.
Probably because it wasn't as dark or atmospheric, it's my second favourite arc, I'm a sucker for training arcs
SSJ Flash I agree. Greed Island gave us:
1. Our boys training
2. Got the best dodgeball game ever.
3. IMO one of the best fights in HxH, Genthru vs. Gon.
4. The introduction of Bisky.
5. Hisoka......being Hisoka. XD
Now I won't lie though. I wasn't a huge fan of the card game. Despite growing up with Yugioh. But besides that I enjoyed the arc.
The anime community is filled with elitist haters who hate regular shounen, Greed Island is the most "Regular shounen" arc in HxH
Im nit gonna say the Greed island arc is bad (mostly cause i missed more episodes in that arc then any other) but isn't the "just cause it's not as good doesn't mean its bad" agruement used for everything that just that, like zelda 2 :/
Nahh the only bad thing in this ark is that other than brutally murdering Gentru they fucking heals him and tries to forget the fuck he did
Was expecting to wait longer, great !
Sign of confidence.
Liking a video before it even begins.
Hey, just wanted to say thank you for these videos. Only recently watched Hunter X Hunter and these videos are really giving me more appreciation for the series as a whole. Great stuff.
Thank you, glad you're enjoying them! I love to hear that these give people an alternate appreciation for the story.
Your videos are just absolute genius and I appreciate the time and passion you put into them. I’d love to see a video breakdown on Alluka/Nanika, I’m sure you’d nail it!
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i’d like to see a video on alluka/nanika too!
Thank you! I've talked about Alluka/Nanika before but only briefly. In the future I'll think about if I have enough to say about them for a video.
Dude you really deserve more subscribers, your videos are really well put together, your ideas and meanings are put across in a way that's easy to fully understand, and just listening to the build-up ultimately culminating in the point you're trying to get across is just enjoyable. Watching your HxH videos literally brought a thankful tear to my eye, reminding me of just how much importance and impact most of the moments in the anime/manga had. Good job man, good job.
Thanks so much, I really appreciate it! :)
@Aleczandxr He was not my least favorite main villain of an arc because of two reasons:
1. His Nen ability is similar to Killer Queen’s abilities from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure (totally not biased)
2. Tonpa exists and is still alive in the story.
@Creeperman129 tonpa
"By beating him, he's showing that his choice at the beginning of the arc to reject the speedrun, and take the slower path with more potential for growth, was the right one."
Tragic, knowing what he does in the next arc.
I love your stuff dude. You're charismatic, intelligent and skilled. Keep it up!
Thanks!
HxH is in a league of its own
I've always felt that Genthru, and Greed Island in general, were underrated. It's not that they are my favorite arc or anything by a long shot, though I don't feel the particular dislike for them that some people seem to. It's more of that I feel that after dealing with the phantom troop we needed a breather even if we didn't realize it at the time. HXH has is dark, pointed moments, but those moments wouldn't stand out of have the impact that they do if they were happening all the time. It's because they are set against a lighter background that they stand out the way they do. The lighter arcs also serve the function of making it so that people that cannot or will not watch things that are entirely dark still are able to enjoy the series.
To this point, Genthru is vital precisely because he is NOT as complex of a villain as many of the others are. Genthru doesn't really stand out, but because has doesn't stand out, Chrollo and Merum stand out all the more. In the same way that many of the darker arcs are able to more clearly able to make their points because they stand out against the lighter arcs, Chrollo and Merum stand out the more because Genthru doesn't. It shifts the emphasis to the characters that we're supposed to pay attention to. And, as you said, that is a good thing.
I loved thre arc cuz it used concepts of a RPG adventure and it was training in Nen
Some people just gotta hate to show some kind of false superiority
Yea it's pretty underrated but the only reason i think it's hated is because the ending of the ark sucked a lot
Another awesome video! It brightens my day when I see a video of yours pop up in my subscription feed!
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Man, I really wish you do analysis on Casca from Berserk.
She is pretty overlooked character compared to Guts and griffith.
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I love your analysis videos, you layout your ideas in a way that is at the same time easily understandable (even though the theme is quite complex), and very fun to watch.
I've been following your channel for over a year, and I can say that you have been getting better and better. Keep up the great work, congratulations!!!
Thanks very much man!
15:22 *Pitou starts rolling in her non existant grave*
Lol
I absolutely ADORE your Hunter x Hunter analysis videos. So well written!!! Simply amazing :)
Thanks!
Genthru may not be a popular character in the series but when HxH fans talk about their favorite fights & moments?
Genthru vs. Gon is definitely one of those best moments/fights of the series.
Best parts of Greed Island for me:
1. The dodgeball game
2. Gon vs. Genthru
3. Hisoka........being Hisoka. XD
Hisoka is usually one of the best parts of any arc he's in.
King26J "Hisoka......being Hisoka"
Funny how no one needs any explanation for this
You seem to have forgotten about teleport tag. That shit had me laughing my ass off.
Omg 3 videos in a week. I am addicted.
I'd love a comparison of 1999 and 2011 in the arcs that have been covered by both. Or at least Yorknew. Nit vs necessarily but how they handled different plot points and such.
Man I love your videos. You articulate perfectly just what it is that makes the series so brilliant. Anybody watching it can tell that it's brilliant, but it's never easy to explain why.
Thank you, glad you enjoy them!
Awesome 2 part videos :) Just the other day I actually said I disliked him, but you convinced me he isnt as bad as I thought. It made me appreciate the story more, thanks !
That's awesome to hear!
It's is a skill to attempt and succeed in making a a video (about a lot of people's least favorite arc and a villain ) INTERESTING and make people keep focus on something that is not necessarily their favorite moment ! BRAVO yet again
Thank you!
13:37 "second" best girl? First is Kurapika, right?
Diego Tejada - Lol, I know, right?
Diego Tejada no, it’s tonpa
Melody
Good job with this new style of video it's pretty refreshing and I hope you will continue to reinvent yourself.
Thank you. I've done videos of this style before but they're just less common on this channel.
Greed Island was a really crazy arc but it's overshadowed by the arc before and after it...wait you already mentioned this in part one.
I didn't need convincing here with GI being my second favorite arc (sue me), but this is an awesome breakdown of the various themes present in each arc and how the characters play into those themes. I had never really even considered how much of an effect the antagonist of each arc had on the tone. Keep up the great content, best anime-related youtuber out there!
Thanks very much! Nice to see some variety too, not many people have GI as a favourite!
Aleczandxr second* favorite! Jeez you trying to get me crucified by hxh fans? xD. Can't beat the chimera ants, but I love GI.
I didn't mean number one. I generally think of the top 3 arcs as someone's "favourite" arcs (referring to any one of them as *a* favourite), with their number 1 being *the* favourite. I should've mentioned that though.
Hunter squared is one of the best and my personal favorite anime tbh :]
TheSinisterSableye 'Hunter squared' lol
That's a unique way of saying the name...
Loving the these 2 videos so far (still watching this one) but I just noticed the FFX music at 3:29, nice touch, one of my favorite games lol.
FFX is ace.
Genthru was easely underestimated. After seeing Gon and Killua own everyone except Razor during the arc. Seeing Genthru almost blow both Gon's hands off, really was surprising. I hope we get to see him again sometime.
So if Bisky is second best girl, who's number one? Mito? Machi? Melody? Palm? Pitou?........Kite?
Machi.
Hisoka
I KNEW IT. Same for me too @@Aleczandxr
Man this video came out quick lol. Great job as always man!
Thanks!
If anything, I think genthru should have been wackier and campier.
He should have been like a mass-murdering snidley whiplash.
That’s fair, and as long as it didn’t make him *too* silly then I think I’d agree.
...nnn that doesn't really fit. I believe that Genthru being a moral nihilist is enough as it is. Just an un4chanately crazy being set in HxH's world
Oh boy... Chrono trigger ost is life!
I like his design tbh
Me too
Wow, you're videos have gotten a whole lot better since you first started.
his fight was beastly though
just dropping comment here to say that i'm so glad i found your Hunter x Hunter analysis video. Im glad i watched HxH analysis video from you because after watching it, i suddenly want more! watching an anime analysis video isnt something i ever did before and i never thought it would be this interesting. I really like the way you describe every single thing with sincere and seriousness, because aftervl watching all your HxH disscussion i tried to search another one from other youtuber, but i couldnt find someone who describe it as sincere as you. well i did find it but idk somehow there's something missing so i end up coming back to your channel again x'D oh one thing that i really want to know from you is how you see the friendship between Gon and Killua. i ever read this in a blog that their friendship is kinda unbalance and unhealthy (in this case for Killua). i dont mean it in that way but after reading that blog i kinda agree that Killua always do anything for the sake of Gon, While the selfish Gon only thinking how it is to achieve his goal without caring the people around here. Killua often hurt by Gon but he didnt really care as long as Gon achieve what he want. Seeing this making me sad somehow... oh my god what have i done, i typed so much. im sorry but since i already typed it i will post it anyway lol. Hoping for more video from you soon!
Glad you're enjoying the channel, thanks for supporting!
yikes, i didnt realize i posted 2 comments 😨 sorry for spamming
I feel like I listened to Part of this before *stream *wink**wink*
;)
Literally just made my day.
I just read the new Hunter X Hunter chapter today is the best day
Jiren Your a fan of HxH? Hmm......I might have to cheer for Universe 11 now. XD
Thanks for the good quality content you've provided. Watched nearly all your videos on HxH and Death Note.
Keep it up! c:
Thanks for watching!
Kind of reminds me of one of Leorio's functions, being the most normal of the dazzling potentials around him. But interestingly enough--not that the gaming community hasn't suffered enough for this, but Genthru is kind of the embodiment of how a lot of us act in games.... just saying XD That's why only ideas should be taken seriously, and never the medium itself. But all art mediums, imho, are vessels for driving what's most important ahead, and that's pretty freakin' cool by itself if you ask me :P
Mr. Aleczandr
Thank you for these breakdowns. They have been helping me so much as far as my writing style and everything, especially your HxH breakdowns have helped me with the writing of my upcoming webtoon NKLHDZ. Thank you so much because I feel like you were the linchpin as far as figuring out how to write good characters for specific arcs.
You're very welcome.
Genthru is seriously Underrated, In my opinion his character was a bigger threat to Gon and Killua then someone like Razor
JibJester Well with Razor all they had to worry about is not getting hit with the ball.
With Genthru? It was anything goes with no rules.
the narration is comprehensive and I love it...
i loved the 1999 ost in this 2 part series
Kurapika's theme. :')
omg your analysis on the 13th Chairman arc was spot on, love your videos always!
Thanks!
Thank you for this analysis series! It brought up some really interesting topics of how HxH is structured overall.
Personally I found Genthru forgettable because of everything else the arc was setting up at the time.
While I did find enjoyment from him Genthru sort of faded to the background. With the arrival of The Phantom Troupe and Hisoka, who are my favorite villain from the show I was more inclined to watch them and ended up playing favorites.
Still I don't find Genthru falling into the background bad. Actually, he might be a positive, like you said.
Although I barely remember him in favor of others, he served the arc well. He was intimidating but not so much that I felt he was forced.
If this was in a real world sense he'd be the player that constantly followed you requesting a battle and then beating you with the strongest weapon he could find. This might make you angry but you'll work to get up to his level and maybe challenge him again.
Genthru is a good stepping stone to better themes and I can appreciate what he does story-wise.
Thanks for watching and I’m glad it was useful! I more or less agree with everything you said here. He isn’t supposed to shine as a villain. He’s supposed to help the other elements shine.
Hey, relatively new here and commenting for the first time (that I remember) on your vids. I want to be a writer and you talking about the purpose of characters and story structure has given me a lot to consider when crafting my stories. (I also like this show and watching your videos gives me a new application for it, which is a major plus.) Thank you very much and keep up the good work.
Greed Island was actually my favorite arc in the manga. The anime rushed the pacing of Greed Island a bit and on the other hand some of the longer parts of the Chimera Ant Arc are better in the anime, due to the controlled pacing, the build-up is easy to marathon, but a bit less engaging to actually read through.
I actually didn't mind the pacing in the 2011 anime. I think 1999 stumbles a bit with Greed Island, though. It's been a while since I saw those OVAs but they were comfortably the weakest adaptation of the manga for me.
Haven't even finished watching this, but I know its gonna be good. Liked automatically.
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The first time Genthru shows up in the anime you would never expect that he will be the main villain of the saga, his design is pretty in line with is role and personality, you can like it or not but he's well written. He's a guy in a world that can repay you well if you act with brute force.
Congrats on 70k subs, tho not gonna lie, I kinda miss you having 69k. #ImmatureComment
Amazing, as always. Glad to see your channel growing.
Thanks a lot Pedro! :)
How the hell do you constantly produce high-quality, long-form analytical content so quickly?
Ha, well thank you for saying so. I just worked hard this past week, I suppose! Got a lot of stuff done.
This is by far one of the best analytical channels on UA-cam imo. I have to admit, I had some mixed feelings about HxH, was confused (say with Gon's and shows overall morality) and in general didn't love it as much as everyone seemed to. And thanks god I found your channel. I'm not going to love HxH, probably just not my style, but thanks to your essays I understand it better now and learned from it (and that is very precious to me as a amateur writer). Thank you for those awesome videos.
Edit: And yeah, I like 2 parts videos as long as it's good for you. It's much better this way than if you didn't make this one just because it would be too long or something.
Thanks so much and thanks for watching! Yeah, I divided this up because together I think the video would be too long, covering too many things for one sitting. And I usually don't like dividing longer videos because it dulls the impact of the message, but I didn't think that would be a problem here.
Nice second part! Your voice is full of conviction and provides a compelling argument
Some more constructive criticism, when putting text corrections of your speech, make them longer!!!! It's infuriating to go back and pause, also I feel that this video is very on topic, that is not my complaint, I feel you should come back to genthru more often because you come across as rambling even though the subject matter is on topic. Hope this is helpful!
That's a personal thing, I don't like them being there long. I just expect people to go back and pause if they're really interested, not read it for as long as it's up. Sorry, haha.
*I feel you should come back to genthru more often because you come across as rambling even though the subject matter is on topic.*
Aleczandxr umm, unsure how to explain, you talk about things that relate to genthru, but it is hard to relate the two since you do not go back to genthru often enough in my opinion
this is a personal opinion and I would like to say that I still enjoy your videos, these are just minor things I noticed
*you talk about things that relate to genthru, but it is hard to relate the two since you do not go back to genthru often enough in my opinion*
Do you have an example? Or if you're talking about the bits where I describe why certain villains worked with relation to their arcs (Chrollo, Meruem, etc) - they had nothing to do with Genthru. Through that, I was showing how and why villains are constructed certain ways with regards to their arcs and showing this pattern throughout the whole series, and then the Genthru part uses that bigger picture thinking. If I mentioned Genthru during those parts it would be jarring and pretty irrelevant.
Aleczandxr yes, that was what I was talking about! I understand your reasons better now and agree, but I couldn't help but feel that genthru was mentioned pretty late into the video, if he was mentioned earlier, if only briefly, the video would feel more on topic and in MY opinion flow better, but no matter what you do
just know I am not trying to bash this channel, and this is a very minor detail that in all does not stop me from enjoying your content
I know you're not bashing my channel, lol. There's no problem at all, I just want to explain myself here.
*I couldn't help but feel that genthru was mentioned pretty late into the video, if he was mentioned earlier, if only briefly, the video would feel more on topic and in MY opinion flow better*
You're right, and I know - that's why I put a disclaimer in part one. But Genthru was only half the story, and he could be explained using my reasoning from earlier, so that was how I had to structure the video. Defending Genthru was only one of the two points of these videos - the other half being an examination of Togashi's arc structure/style and how that relates to villains. That's a topic that takes more time to explain and something that I use as framework to argue for Genthru, so naturally it takes up the bulk of the time.
TLDR; Genthru wasn't the most important point here, he's just one part of a bigger picture.
Thank you my dude! Christmas came early!!
I love hunter x hunter.. in another video can u talk about what happened to Hanzo after the hunter exam. I’m dying to know
What Sahir said, lol. Or just look it up on the wiki, I'm sure it's there.
I'm going to be honest, because of his function, I can't help but say Genthru is like my second favorite villain, because reading and watching greed island has helped me learn about functionality in writing. For me, my second experience with HxH, which I read, was all about dissecting the functions of the arcs and how they came together into what they currently are. Which made *Greed Island* a treat for me to dissect from at least a function standpoint.
Could you elaborate if you're willing to? It interests me
can you analyze technolyxze
I'd like to hear his thoughts on that as well.
I don't have any immediate plans to, sorry!
Genthru to me is a final boss of an RPG, which personally felt so satisfying when Gon was able to beat him while him being obviously "underleveled" in terms of nen and combat skills but he had a plan and it worked.
*DAICHI WO FUMISHIMETE*
*KIMI WA MEZAMETEIKU*
Thanks so much. Watching your videos, I feel like I can learn a lot about how to write my own stories
Awesome to hear that!
Lol you did use the ost at the end !
i live for your hxh analysis videos!!!!
:)
I still stand by Genthru.
#GenthruDidNothingWrong
You definitely need more subscribers! Your channel is awsome, I kove your videos. Your voice is very relaxing, the way that your talk is entertaining and intelligent and the quality of your videos is excellent. Keep it up, I'm always looking forward to your videos!
Greetings from Germany
Thank you so much! :)
Bisky is second-best girl for me too, as it happens - second only to Melody.
That was a very interesting video on Genthru and what not. I hope you continue experimenting in future vids.
Bro all i ask is a Tserriednich analysis or base analysis :x