I've seen some people comment about Kite and his scaling so I'll answer some questions and stuff here most of them don't actually really effect anything in the video but I'll clarify: For Kite's near death ability, it should be important that it's supposed to stop him from dying, reincarnation is a post death ability. Now while I do think it's heavily implied it causes him to reincarnate, I still think that it being a "good spin" and causing Pitou to genuinely think he's a good fight implies more than that, and amplified his ability. Remember, Knuckle, who is scared of Pitou and gets bullied to oblivion by Youpi, is stated to physically equal to Kite, and Kite is never once ever implied to be near Pitou's level. Even Killua doesn't even bring Kite up to scare Netero, despite knowing Kite's ability, he brings up Hisoka and Illumi, which further implies an amp to me, even Ging only theorizes what Kite's ability does, it's never confirmed so of course I'm not going to claim I 100% know either. I'm not saying it's OBJECTIVELY true, and in fact, Kite isn't important really AT ALL for scaling the Troupe. This is the same for me saying he bodied leader and officer ants, which didn't have nen. Once again, the Troupe vs the Ants is moreso class scaling, then actually relying on Kite for anything. Even looking back I could've removed Kite from the entire video and nothing would change. And even if you want to absolutely say that Kite didn't get any amp from Pre-Death, then he'd have simply gotten an amp from getting a good spin. I've also heard an argument that Hisoka is stronger after dying. And while post mortem nen is stronger, there is no proof Hisoka has permanent post mortem nen, if anything his bungee gum had post mortem nen which he used to revive himself. (Reviving implying he's not dead) Only his bungee gum that restarted his heart is confirmed to be stronger. Also people are commenting on the arm wrestling and nen, saying the nen is not involved in the arm wrestling... Which I also said in this video and confirmed was absolutely the case even in combat scaling. I don't see why people are complaining about that. And this video is under the premise that they're in a confrontation with Meruem, not that they couldn't somehow find a way to nuke him or something.. Obviously a rose would beat him, but that's not the point of the video the video is talking about combat scaling. Also I'm aware Kalluto is a boy, and that Pitou is an It, when I wrote the script I try to imagine the characters and just pictured a female and usually give them their usual gender identity, kind of like what Killua does with Alluka but without the absolute confirmation they want it that way, which I probably shouldn't do. My bad. I even called Pitou a girl one time despite calling it an it like 10 other times in the video (it can also be referred to as he if you're mainly manga but I use it to be indifferent), it's a common error I make when writing. "Youpi couldn't instantly defeat Knuckle or Shoot" Youpi wasn't at his full potential and didn't understand how to use Nen until the very end, and it's implied he can evolve further beyond that. Pitou doesn't have the same weaknesses in talent, and was pretty much fully evolved from the get-go. Youpi being 10x stronger and it being stated "It is impossible for Shoot to beat Youpi" even without Nen abilities or any strategy does in fact confirm what I'm saying, it is not an anti-feat against me. Youpi is also specifically stated to be non strategic and wasn't even going all vs Shoot with it being confirmed he was absolutely going to win even without nen abilities or strategy (Volume 26, Page 16, Page 39) "If you use the stat books Komugi can beat Zushi!!" No, the stat books only have Komugi with higher total stats than Zushi, but these stats include things like Talent, Intelligence, Willpower and so on, which she used purely for board games. Zushi and Komugi are both just stated to be bottom tiers in terms of strength and combat ability but with Zushi actually having nen ability whereas Komugi has virtually 0. Total stats =|= stronger in the HxH databooks. "The series tries to convey fights through Randomness!" We've seen plenty of fights and have plenty of information on straight up 1v1 fights in HxH without "randomness." And I hardly can recall any reason why anything I said in the video is something that can be somehow narrative randomized in a VS vacuum, especially when I'm using pretty objective statements about their scaling like "The most formiddable character they've ever seen!" "It was impossible for him to win!" -Narrator "This character blitzes people relative to this character!", "He can one shot people stronger than this character, therefore-" etc. Bizarre and irrelevant argument. All in all I think most criticisms of the video are over minor details and not my main argumentation, but even then I'm finding a lot of these "criticisms" a little off balance and don't really make a lot of sense. I think my only real screw up was with calling Kalluto a girl and not giving numeorus prophylactic counters for some of these casual VS thoughts in the comments, but the video was 32 minutes as was when I recorded it and was cut down. Didn't want to make a 1 hour long video countering every conceivable idea people could come up with, like "what if they just run away and grab a nuke and nuke meruem in this VS Battle and power scaling setting!!!" like, c'mon.. "Morel was only at 35% and Pouf didn't dominate him" Pouf psychologically manhandled Morel then took his pipe and threw it in a river with zero effort. Also, in HxH, Aura is not like Ki in Dragon Ball where your power decreases hyper linearly as your energy does. For example, Knuckle Explains that if you have 10,000 Aura and you punch, maybe you use 80 Aura per punch, and your ultimate move uses like 1,000 through 2,000. It's more like a gas tank, not a power level, although, it allows you to put more gas into your attacks if you use that much aura if that makes sense. So unless Morel has an attack that uses over 35% of his total aura in one attack, which not even Gon's enhancer attack that amps his punch by 10x necessarily does, there's no reason to suspect that this 35% capacity is some serious nerf. Especially if they only fought for an instant and all that happened was Pouf bullied him and flew away to find Pitou and Meruem.
SethTheProgrammer bro honestly you’re right kite’s scaling truly doesn’t matter in terms of this video but then there are people who want kite’s scaling to be as accurate as possible but then again I also want you to make a video scaling JUST kite but that’s because his strength is weird in cases as he is able to make the captain-level ants shit themselves but he gets slapped by Poitou. Which I think happened due to kite’s inability to raise his strength in time for the absolute unit that is Poitou like when Goku got shot and hurt by a bullet to get to the point I think kite is on par with Poitou in ability (may be pure head canon but decent guess) but he was slapping with a number four roll and barely beating a captain with a six so I believe kite’s full power is on par or at least comparable to Poitou 🔴however I am not caught up to the manga🔴
Sometimes the way characters use their nen abilities is what makes them dangerous. Otherwise, Gotoh's nen ability, which according to him was *firing coins with more power than bullets* should've defeated Hisoka, whose nen ability is *gum* . And Meruem wasn't a god. Gods don't die to poison and don't get beat in a board game. In episode 135 Meruem himself said that he isn't a god.
beginning of the video: You might be thinking that the troupe has no chance of defeating meruem but let's look at their abilities. End of the video: The troupe really doesn't have any chance of defeating meruem
Even with OP abilities like the ones feitan, phinks, and chrollo have, it still wouldn't be enough, especially if it's after meruem absorbed power from youpi and pouf. Chrollo's ability alone would be too risky since he obviously wouldn't be able to steal anything from meruem and I don't think he has any abilities that are strong enough to do damage to the king. Love the troupe, but I don't think anything is stronger than the ants other than whatever's in the dark continent Edit: the troupe are smart and good at planning things, but like ace said above, it's useless against someone that can one-shot you in seconds lol.
you said it pefectly. Meruem was conceived as someone who wasn't supposed to be even on the scaling. The scale doesn't apply to him, because he is even far above the scale itself. That was done due to the story that Togashi wanted to tell. The evil Meruem, who kinda went through a abridged version of a hero's journey. With him being more powerful than anyone in the series, he didn't have to struggle physically, but his emotions got triggered when he met Komugi. This weak blind girl, who he could've obliterated out of existence without her even noticing. But she beat him in that game over and over again, which is what he needed and finally he found someone who is his peer and that is what made him become more human. So he needed to be that strong for this storyline to work as well as it did. The contrast to Gon's descent into madness is also a masterclass if this manga / anime. I love Meruem as a character and Gon's character development as well.
Its funny that his pride led him to find happiness, he couldn't accept losing to what he thought was a worthless person. So he kept her alive until he can win because if he kind her out of frustration he would've forever been a loser at gungi. But in doing so, playing against her, he found greater joy in facing an opponent who can truly challenge him, and learn to appreciate that strength comes in many forms, he forms respect and admiration for her, later turning into love. His journey is really well written, because even tho he did some terrible things, and was still planning to assert his will over others, creating a society based on meritocracy by force, we still sort of root for him to be happy.
Strange enough, in the Dark Continent his species isn't the top dog, so we probably are yet to meet the really disasters/dangerous creatures that permeate it.
Yeah tho i don't think we need another species that seeks world domination that is simply stronger, if humans could only hope to gain time against the guards and never touch Meruem there's no point in rising the bar, it would be exactly as effective even if the new threat was x100 stronger
"Godspeed, which is faster than any other character" "Godspeed is surpassing the human limits" Meanwhile grandma following killua on a bike like a boss.
I don't know what gives people the idea of no characters being able to react to or to move as fast as Godspeed Killua, considering that *even before transforming into a motorbike, his butler(Tsubone) was able to follow Godspeed Killua on her own in the forest* . Also: 1. The first time Killua hit Youpi with his lightning, it was a surprise attack, since Killua was invisible with Meleoron and Youpi was focused on Knuckle. But getting hit by that lightning might have affected Youpi's reaction speed which in turn affected his ability to react to Godspeed Killua later. 2. Knuckle was able to dodge countless of Youpi's attacks, and Shoot even kept up with Youpi in a 1 vs 1 fight, by dodging Youpi's attacks and even landing one attack of his own on one of Youpi's eyes. If Knuckle and Shoot were able to do that, then who's to say that some other characters aren't able to move fast enough for Youpi to not be able to react to them.
// Killua is the faster after Meruem, eand Yupi can see Lightning of Speed Killua’s movement, but not Whirlind’s Killua’s mouvement It's not even his speed, even his time reaction is not enough against Killua
@@devil2457 Killua's movements in Godspeed: Whirlwind were never shown to be faster than Killua's movements in Godspeed: Speed Of Lightning, but even if we assume that they are faster: it is still unknown whether Youpi is able to keep up with Killua's Speed Of Lightning mode, because we have never been shown Killua using that against Youpi. Even assuming that Youpi is able to react Killua's movement in Godspeed: Speed of Lightning, as i've said in my previous comment, Youpi's speed was never shown to be much faster than the speed of a lot of the members of the invasion team - Knuckle was able to dodge and run away from Youpi a lot of times. Shoot was also able to dodge Youpi's attacks a lot, and was even able to land one attack on Youpi. All of this to say, that Youpi not being able to react to Killua's movements in his Godspeed: Whirlwind mode, doesn't mean that nobody else is able to do it.
// Killua literally *outspeeded* Pouf who was definitely faster than Youpi. Also Killua hilf Alluka and was running away from the grandma on a fcking Road, the only thing which was measured was the sole speed. The speed which the grandma achieved was the full power of such an old and experienced Nen user plus she was on a full road, but Killua just causally competed in this category with such a strong cavarcter who had focussed on this. Also the speed in absattle couldn‘t be achieved by the Grandma and Killua’s reaction is definetely faster than anyone else‘s.
@@darkghostgamings22 Netero didn't have any fancy tricks, he was just stronk hands go boom Chrollo has some fancy tricks that could do a number on meruem
@@justtoolit6051 There is a chance for the Phantom Troupe to defeat the Royal Guards. Kite was missing an arm, yet was still able to fight Pitou, and make it enjoyable enough for her to want to bring him back to life to fight him again. We don't even know whether the nen ability he rolled against Pitou was made for fighting, since Ging mentions later in the series that there's a nen ability Kite rolls to not die in a dangerous situation(if it's something like a reincarnation nen ability, then it isn't for fighting). Pitou's injuries after fighting Kite weren't shown to be as prominent in the anime as they were in the manga at the end of chapter 199, in which she was shown to have multiple cuts. Right before the start of the invasion Morel said that his own physical and mental conditions were 35 out of 100, yet he still survived against Pouf 1 vs 1, while being inside of the smoke and after deactivating it. Pouf even said that Morel had a chance of killing him, if he searched for Pouf inside of the cocoon, instead of deactivating his smoke(chapter 286). Youpi almost lost his nen to Knuckle's nen ability. The narrator said that he was minutes, if not seconds, away from losing his nen. And Youpi never fought all of his opponents during the invasion at once. Most of the time he fought from 1 to 3 characters(counting Meleoron) at the same time. Shoot was able to keep up with Youpi 1 vs 1 for a while. And in the chapter 106 of the hxh manga, the narrator said that every member of the Phantom Troupe has at least one nen ability that the other members don't know about. Also, Kurapika created 5 different nen abilities during the 6 months he was learning nen. The Phantom Troupe members have all known nen for much longer than 6 months, so there's a chance we haven't seen all of their nen abilities. Chrollo has a book full of nen abilities.
While I think Pitou could probably body the Phantom Troupe, the Troupe could be like Netero and use Human-made things to kill Pitou instead. Actually, if the Poor Man's Rose could kill Meruem... If the Phantom Troupe can set a few of those off, they might be able to kill the Ants.
@@flickersense Your reasons do not apply to a fight with the Phantom Troupe. Nobody was able to damage Youpi, and while Knuckles ability is trouble, no one in the Troupe has that ability. And Pouf had no interest in fighting Morel at that point, so there is nothing to get from that fight. The weaker Spiders would get killed immediately by Pitou and Youpi. Thats Shal, Kortoupi, Shizuku, Paku, and Bono, all dead. The only one that could possibly damage Youpi is Feitan, maybe. And his injuries would have to be great enough that he cant really fight after using his nen ability. I dont think it would kill Youpi, but Phinks could finish him off afterwards if he was charging during Feitan's fight. That takes care of 1 ant. Pouf is a tricky match-up, none of the enhancers can really do anything. So Uvo, Nobunaga, are kinda useless. I dont see how Machi and Franklin can beat Pouf either. That means that you HAVE to use Chrollo against him, with Franklin as an assist. 2 ants down. That leaves Nobunaga, Uvo, and Machi versus Pitou. This one is interesting. With the right strategy the Spiders could win, this is assuming that Nobu can react to Pitou's attacks if she enters his En. Otherwise they are gonna get killed. Machi is the most vulnerable, so Nobu and Uvo have to hold Pitou's attention so she doesnt blitz Machi. Then Machi can use her threads during the fight to suprise and impair Pitou's movement enough for Uvo and Nobu to deal lethal damage in the brief opportunity. Given the feats and portrayal of the Royal Guard, I think its easier to assume that Feitan cannot deal enough damage to Youpi. And that Nobunaga cannot react to Pitou. And if thats the case then the entire fight crumbles and the ants win. But the Troupe has a fair chance, the match-up is close to even. The wildcard is ofcourse Chrollo, if he finds a way to deal with Pouf quickly, then he can assist in other fights and then it snowballs in the Troupe's favor.
Meruem survived a nuclear blast, which astute viewers will know have the properties of both nuclear and blast. No chance the Troupe gets near beating him.
Meruem is literally immune to physical dmg. Even Netero needed millions of blows to make him feel something similar to pain. Meruem on the other hand just had to touch him to rip one of his legs out and after that flower nuke he became even stronger. Meruem was on a whole different powerscaling than the other hunters. There were just a handfull of characters who could pose a problem for his pre nuke form.
@ercterburn1053 No, it really wasn't... HxH characters aren't that strong or fast. The translations literally say "was an exchange of more than a thousand punches." Or "an exchange that exceeded a thousand" If it was really in the 10s or 100s, they would say so.
She was stronger than him while he was still rusty. He hit his form again after training against all those ants he slaughtered in the glasses dude's space time room.
@@jaybee5513 he managed to hit pitou thanks to his position and strategy but did 0 damage to pitou. Netero managed to hit a lot of times Meruem too, but he was way way way way weaker
Honestly the chimera ant threat could’ve been eliminated with less casualties if they’re was a more pragmatic person at the head of the Hunter association. On the other hand the reason Netero was so damn strong was bc he was insanely selfish and prideful the epitome of a Hunter and that’s why at the ripe old age of 100 something he chose to lead a 3 man team and fighting meruem by himself.
The thing is, the ant extermination was heavily sabotaged by Pariston. He basically rejected many applications to personnel (which some may had some exotic ability that could tilt the chips heavily on the human's favor)
Not really that easy...considering how the first chimera ants reached NGL of the Mitene Union and we're able to spread and become stronger was mostly 'cos the Union had really strict rules of admissions. If the chimera ants reached almost every other country in HxH world, probably there would have been a faster response, but NGL rules wanted that everything was as much natural (corrupted actually 'cos of Gyro himself) as possible.
@@Dontpostdumbcomments Even if chrollo was stronger. The rest of the troupe is such a lower level than chrollo that they are almost negligible in the fight against mereum
@@Dontpostdumbcomments Excuse me what? Chrollo got destroyed by Zoldycks... Which arent nearly as strong as Netero, just Maha Zoldyck was on par with Netero, but we didnt see him fight.
Chrollo: The conditions for him to steal an ability are : He needs to see how the Nen ability works He have to ask about the ability and be answered by the target Target has to touch the handprint on the book All of the above must be done within an hour The condition for him to use the stolen ability : He have to open the page where the ability is written and the page has to remain open in his right hand. The ability will be limited to its original user’s personality or beliefs Once the original user died, the ability will also gone (exception if the Nen is stronger after death, it will remain) Hisoka: *G U M*
@No1sy you deadass just bacame the strongest person on earth by defeating meruem when netero sacraficed it all omfg what was the point in all the deaths
The Phantom Troupe would get crushed. None of them are strong enough to take a hit from the King. During pretty much all of his fight with netero, the king wasn't really trying to kill him. Also, he gained a lot of power after he was regenerated. Following that he still has space to grow.
The Troupe if they directly confronted him would each get blitz and one shot one shot. None of them would have the reaction to even see Meruem nor take a hit from him, even Uvo if he was alive.
@@aceclover758 This. They are human after all. And king is super fast to the point that it would be quite difficult to react to his attacks. To predict his movements, react, defend and use abilities to counter all at the same time is close to impossible to Troupe members. Not to mention King was insane durability so any attack that hits him somehow is likely to have no effect.
Yeah. Arguments like "X character said this about Y character, therefore Z character doesn't have a chance of defeating Y character" don't work, since just because somebody said something doesn't mean it is actually the case. The poster of this video chose to disregard Morel's statement about how you never know what happens in a fight, yet chose to use what Killua says as an evidence, even though Morel is much more experienced than Killua. Even if we disregard their experience, judging the characters' capabilities based on another character's statements doesn't work, regardless.
@@miriotogata5474 Even without the knowledge of nen, Killua still knew Netero was holding back, because he himself told Gon that Netero wasn't using his left leg and his right arm, and they still weren't able to take the ball from him. Yet he was still sure he would've killed Netero. So whether Killua knows nen or doesn't know nen, his words aren't always reliable.
@One Killua underestimated Bisky during the greed island arc, and he already knew about nen at that time. And in the heaven's arena Killua was confident that Wing wasn't able to kill him, yet got instantly scared when Wing directed his aura at him.
“For the first time in the series, you can actually hear his footsteps” I knew they never added footstep sounds for killua, but even after watching that scene tons of times, it never even crossed my mind.
@@Vincenzo_cassanno I never said they are underrated, I know they are quite popular but not as overrated as Akatsuki, anyway they’re both cool villain groups
@@thatgal true. Been watching anime for 15 years and watches so many animes, akatsuki are extremely overrated while spider phantom are really underrated compared to other shits and overhyped anime’s villains group
@Pedro De Lima Kawase I think it has to do with their relationship. I don't think Killua wants to ask too much of Alluka, the only reason he went for Gon is because nothing else in the world could've saved his best friend.
Yup. Hisoka wouldve badly want to fight a Royal Guard or the King, only to die. But NGL and the palace wouldve been a field day for him. Many strong opponents and the ants are stronger than average Nen users
Haitian Xu, not true. Otherwise, he wouldnt have been so interested in Gon. Gon is a pure enhancer that uses overhwmpling power. By your logic, Hisoka would not care about Adult Gon, when Hiska was practically jizzing himself over Gon’s immense potential. While Hisoka loves countering unique abilities he loves fighting anyone strong, not soley for their abilities.
He was also salivating over his raw potential and aura. All his fights? He fought Hisoka twice, once without Nen and the other, Hisoka going easy on him by not even using Ren to power up. Gon will never be as intricate as Chrollo. The only things Gon showed ability wise is raw power just like Uvo. Him not wanting to fight Uvo, you could say the same thing about the other Troupe Members about not wanting to fight them, despite having them in his “toy chest” Chrollo is just the biggest challenge since he has so many abilities and many not known. Hisoka is a sore loser to a fault as we seen. He lost to Chrollo despite letting Chrollo prepare all he wanted and now, wants to kill the Spiders and Chrollo without any warning or prep time now.
@@aceclover758 Gon has never been about raw/overwhelming power. He has very high athleticism and generally fights using a mix of that, his nen, and his creativity/battle tactics, doing things his opponents typically wouldn't expect.
The more interesting question would be: "If Kurapika dedicated his nen abilities towards Chimera ants only, can he defeat Meruem? Will his chains still be unbreakable?"
He would have to have the same hatred for them like he did with the Troupe It is not a matter of “let me make a chain that only works on ants” Also, even if Chain Jail worked on Meruem for any reason, Meruem is way too fast to get caught. And without Nen, he is still very strong in terms of raw power
If he wasn't certain his chains could hold Uvogin, then forget about him ever coming close to holding Meruem. That's like someone unsure whether they can definitely arm wrestle an average man, and then interpreting that doubt to also speculate whether this person might be able to arm wrestle a gorilla. If that's the information I have available about the person, then my money is on the gorilla.
@Gee Tar its more balanced than what? it has scaling issues its just they fit into the show well anyway so its all g and nuke ends all scaling issues or dark continent (which is an issue in itself when explored which cant be done)
@@dadeee7776 what? I'm talking about power scaling issues that shows like Fairy Tail has. You may have an idea about the power of a character, then all of a sudden they are way better for no reason.
@@Thudas22 agreed. They never explained how SPOILER he revived himself or relayed his “soul” into another person. But I’m also just an anime watcher, no manga.
@@lonewolf4689 well we have no idea what will happen with Kite and the other characters in the future they might get tied back into the story for some reason. or the story just keeps being in limbo... ;-;
@@chad63 Malicious aura represents the character/their feeling towards whoever is sensing their aura. Both Hisoka and Illumi have scared Killua with their auras, which is why he mentioned them. Meanwhile, Komugi and the other people who Meruem played board games with were inside of Pitou's EN for days and days, yet were never even bothered by her aura.
Also, Hisoka and Illumi may have been holding back on their aura not to kill Killua, while Pitou didn't hold back because she didn't care about what happened to Killua.
@@linggaviekas5637 I was actually just thinking about that , if Uvo didn’t scream out of rage when the Troupe saved him Kurapika’s squad would have got clapped for sure
this, exactly. i thought the video would approach the fight as in the troupe going in together vs the king: them combining their abilities (for example Hisoka using his bungee gum to throw illumi's needles at a greater speed), covering for each others weakness etc. That would have been a way more interesting video than stating what everyone already knows: meruem is unbeatable in a 1v1 deathmatch.
Yea, in scenarios where teamwork is actually capable of exploiting some weakness and often because someone with convenient powers exists in that particular arc. Without Knuckle or Meleoren, Youpi would have killed everyone once they stormed the palace. The sheer magnitude of difference between Squadron leaders ( one of Whom was Bullying Feitan and would have killed him if she didn’t stop to look at pain packer) and Royal Guards is massive. The gap between the guards and Meruem is also massive. The Phantom Troupe as Togashi chose to portray them is simply not a threat to the Royal Guards, much less Meruem, regardless of teamwork. Illumi himself referenced Pitou as being a nigh unstoppable monster who made him look like trash in retrospect.
@@Shoddragon So many inaccurate statements in your comment. 1. If Knuckle and Meleoron didn't exist, then before attacking the palace, the invasion team would have just come up with a different plan to deal with Youpi. 2. Not only was Feitan rusty when fighting Zazan, but Zazan made a restriction by tearing off her tail(which was her way of creating soldiers) and by changing her appearance(which she cared about) in order to gain a lot of raw strength. We've seen what restrictions can do in this show. In the end, Feitan still killed Zazan with a sun that cost him only a broken arm and some injured organs. So no, Zazan wasn't bullying Feitan. 3. Saying that Zazan would have killed Feitan if she didn't stop to look at the pain packer is a baseless assumption. 4. Togashi has never portrayed the Phantom Troupe as "not a threat" to the Royal Guards. 5. Illumi has never said that "Pitou was an unstoppable monster who made him look like trash in retrospect." So again, baseless claims.
In this case though, unless each of them is above Royal Guard level, then possibly. But it was made clear with the Netero fight that only a point blank rose bomb is capable of damaging him. Within the series, the bomb is the ultimate destructive weapon. You may survive the blast (as did Mereum) but you'll still die from the chemical effects. And if Feitan is dead, I highly doubt that his skill include post-mortem activation.
that only works if the power difference isn't too wide. meruem is literally off the charts in every category. Teamwork of the phantom troupes level means nothing
Fun Fact: Meruem was so strong that Togashi couldn’t even figure out a way to kill him, so he just finished his death off with him dying with a disease he got from nuclear blast Netero caused.
This is why I respect his Togashi's work sk much. He makes rules for his universe and sticks with it, he doesn't just use some BS to finish things up and messing up what have already been established
[Spoilers] --> I also love how he's not afraid to kill off certain characters. In respect to Mereum's power, he kills off the most powerful nen user in the world to kill off the most powerful creature in the world. It wasn't just some idiotic "resolve and friendship" moment. Gon had to pretty much sentence himself to a lifelong coma just to beat Neferpitou. Even though Gon did eventually get revived, it wasn't because someone cried over his grave. Killua had to go through a mission and the risk was definitely there for him to achieve his goal and there were consequences. Togashi's stuff is great and I really hope he does get better soon and writes some issues. ~~And also stops playing dragonquest~~
The point of the Ants in the story is twofold: 1. Show how powerless the most powerful humans are. 2. Show how dangerous humanity as a whole is. The point was never a power level contest. That runs completely opposite of the narrative theme.
@@mohamedelhediissa289 There's too much attention paid to humanity for that to be the main reason. The Dark Continent isn't even mentioned until near the end of the next arc. Also even when we see examples of creatures from the Dark Continent, humanity is still rated as being more dangerous than the Ants. It's become a running theme.
Giorgos And Its not always about power in HxH true But the thing is it very well will come down to power in HxH especially when their difference in intellect and power is just so great. We have seen Meruem’s durability, he was able to tank thousands of hits from the strongest hunter, the pinnacle of all hunters (according to Knov, if Netero cAnt fight someone, no hunter can) And there is no ability that can harm Meruem. Literally not a single ability that can hArm meruem that any of the troupe members have Feitan, the 4th strongest member struggled against a squadron leader, some even struggled against officers and peons. Meruem would only have to kill someone and get their ability by eating them Someone like Uvogin who he can one shot. Then he uses big bang against them and its game over Royal Guards vs Troupe is more fair
Giorgos And The Royal Guards always protect the king even when they know an intruder would have gotten one shotted and destroyed by him, for example when Zeno Rained down the dragons Pitou and Pouf were very scared for the King even tho the dragons would do absolutely nothing to him. She said his fangs could reach the king meaning he could hurt him, she never said that he can kill him. We don’t really know how strong the zodiacs are some are double star or first star hunters, Hisoka ranked all of the nen users there and ranked some of the zodiacs to be 8 through 9 in his weird scaling, and he ranked Illumi a 9.5, some of the Zodiacks arent probably even fighters but if Illumi can scale above or even the mid tier Zodiacks i think Netero is very well above them. Knov literally said that if Netero can’t beat Pitou or even the King than nobody can which means Netero is literally the pinnacle of all hunters. Netero is an old man i guess but i don’t see any hunter going through his Buddha statue.
@@randynguyen7767 Nah, that would imply that a single person hand made every Poor Man's Rose - which I'm pretty sure isn't the case since they're mass produced.
I feel Hisoka is a more dangerous opponent to Chrollo than most people are, specifically people who are said to be stronger than Hisoka. The beauty of the power system in Hunter x Hunter.
@@nahitzsteph5896 in a 1v1 with no advantage for either sides meaning both just fight with their raw power with no plan/help hisoka would win every time. There is a reason why chrollo had to prepare for the fight so much. If he really was 30 times more powerful than hisoka he wouldnt actually need to prepare.
Subscribe to Pewdiepie that’s like saying Batman isn’t powerful because he needs to prepare for a lot of his opponents. Intellect and strategy is a form of strength. Chrollo prepped and ROLFstomped Hisoka, he was trying to prove a point. He didn’t just beat him, he utterly obliterated him.
Bruh, Meruem's level compared to the Phantom Troupe in terms of raw power and speed, is like Cell to a bunch of Yamchas.. Unless you consider prep time for the troupe, of course they might have a chance...
How they would have a chance if they don´t know nothing about meruem, no one knows actually how you prepare against an enemy that you know shit about it.
@@aloysiuslim914 personally find that theory may not make sense since there is aura limits in this verse, of he can wind his arm up infinitely then that is just unfair lol as the conditions of his abilities is simply that it needs time to charge
@@aloysiuslim914 how much times would he have to wound up his arms😭 till his arm breaks? Even then it still wouldn’t be enough for base meurem dont even get me started on rose
I think The Phantom troupe as a group is better than the Royal Guards, but for me.. Meruem > Chrollo *though Chrollo's one of my fav character in HxH, Meruem is so complex, he's an overpowered extraterrestrial being but somehow many people can relate to him
@@muhamadrayada6580 Well technically, he isn't extra terrestrial, he's just a chimera ant, a beast from the dark continent. Honestly, the dark continent is like an entirely new world, but yeah, Meruem is absolutely a great character.
meruem easily is the strongest character in hxh so far. he managed to clap netero, who 1) is the strongest nen user alive 2) has the most battle experience out of all humans and 3) is 110 years old. whereas meruem 11) hadn't even unlocked nen yet 2) was only 2 months old or something and 3) has 0 battle experience. even after netero used his strongest attack, meruem had minor injuries and was still standing. whereas netero had lost 2 limbs and was all skin and bones, on the verge of death. if meruem had more experience and trained more and had a weapon, he would ez clap w/o dying. also, netero had to rely on a bomb, something that aint even his power. this is a clear explanation as to who won.
Singular character yes? Strongest threat no. All the ants and Mereum combined don't even make the top 5 regarding the most dangerous things from the dark continent. Styles make fights. Meruem is essentially a dbz character in hunterXhunter. With that said, there's a number of different nen users who appeared so far that have the ability to defeat the king ant. Beating him with brute force like Netero won't work. He can be outsmarted as Komugi demonstrated over and over. He's also not immune from "disease/virus/radiation" type abilities. Pretty much anything on the biological level cannot be countered.
@@Periodik Meruem had the potential to become an even greater "threat" than what we've seen from the Dark Continent. He was a special being. Of course with the way the story went, we'll never see where that potential could have gone.
@@anhdinh2818 Zeno and Silva couldn't even beat Chrollo when he wasn't even going all out but was trying to instead steal their abilities whereas they were trying to kill him. Chrollo literally toyed with them. Somehow they solo the Royal Guard? This is a joke right?
@@abongilezolanipeterson2737 lmao bro sylva wasn't even fighting him zeno was CONFIDENT he could beat chrollo in a 1v1 and HE IS FARRR from his prime and he's not stronger than sylva, is in his prime although while that dude made a big claim it isn't an impossible claim
The chairman had to give up his life in order to temporarily take him down after giving him everything he's got. The phantom troupe will be dead before the fight even starts.
Im pretty sure even the chairman could take down the phantom troupe by himself. His nen ability is so fast pitou, easily physically stronger the netero and had a much high nen aura output, couldn't even see it, and Morel, a dude that is definitely phantom troupe level, was left speechless by his aura.The chairman could take down the phantom troupe, let alone meruem.
You forgot that The ant King had to not kill him because he wanted his name. Also he didn't even want to kill him m the ant King was pleading with Netero but Netero didn't want to hear that
@@R.O.T.C._SEEM let's not forget that only meureum was able to finally touch netero after withstanding thousands of blows, netero Buddha statue is the best defensive and offense ability you can have in this show, I can't see anyone else except for meureum to touch netero before dying
R.O.T.C SEEM doesn't matter he still couldn't reach him until thousands of hits he said himself the movement be used to summon the Buddha is the only movement too fast for him meaning he couldn't hit him into figuring out his pattern
Bruh I've seen so many people over the years say that Hisoka/Illumi could beat *anyone* pretty much, it's ridiculous. Like just because we never see him go up against Meruem doesn't mean you can randomly assume he'd be capable when he's done nothing to show he's that strong. Character hype doesn't equate to strength...
Alot of people are over estimating kite. Kite is the perfect hunter, his abilities are better than knuckle but nen and physically they’re the same But kite is 100 times a hunter knuckle is. Remember in the exam arc gon was 2 times better as a hunter than killua while killua was far stronger than gon
@@boxiannn to make it simple for someone with a brain a small as yours Strength =/ hunter ability Someone being a good hunter doesnt always mean he is a strong Kite was a perfect hunter, but even gon and killua said that knuckle is as strong as kite. But some fanboys think that kite is a super powerful being that every being in hunterxhunter world knows lol
@@boxiannn is like how netero said gon was a better hunter candidate then killua in the hunter exam but killua was obviously far stronger than gon Thats why killua was pissed during the last exam remember?
He doesn't have an unlimited aura reserve. He'd basically wind up his attack until all his aura was focused into it and he'd shrivel up like Netero did after using Zero Hand.
@@eliack95 that also costs Nen, Knuckles state that only charging your attack spends Nen from your MAP and AAP so no, you can´t charge an attack infinitely
To those who don't get the joke: Killua's sister is named "Nanika" and "Nanika" translates to "Something" in English from Japanese. So Mr Smurfey is saying Killua could just make a wish to "Something" aka "Nanika" to kill Meruem.
I honestly think it depends on how mereums feeling and how prepared the phantom Troup is , I can see mereum taking out half of the phantom Troup in blink of an eye if he's pissed off ...
About Morel vs Pouf. You gotta remember that Morel was like this after having around 3 days without sleep I think it was. He even stated he was at less than half his peak performance. Morel's condition was not at a stage where he could have outwitted Pouf.
This video has a lot of moments like that where it just takes a scene from the show without any context. Also, there is a lot of misinformation in this video(for example, the databook wasn't written or even checked by the author of Hunter x Hunter).
@Haitian Xu I'll agree that the phantom troupe could get their hands on a rose, but I assumed we were talking about a nen fight here, but if we are including illumi, then he has not had access to Nanika since he joined the troupe, and she is therefore not a factor
I think there is enough room for speculation regarding how much of the phantom troupe's power is undisclosed so I think it's safe to say that although meruem base would single-handedly obliterate the phantom troupe, the royal guards may get defeated if all members of the spider fight at full strength
yes agreed the spiders at full strength defeated the royal guards... while they're sleeping. yeah they're winning. yeay the phantom troupe winning woo-hoo!
No, they can't in fact take on the royal guard lol. They don't have any feats to back this claim. Half the troop is dog water lol. Let's not forget kurapika clapped uvogon alone and kidnapped chrollo and he couldn't react. Royal guard speed blitz every time.
@@55thstreet66 on hindsight I think i was smoking reefers when i said that. But I'd also like to say that comparing kurapika and phantom troupe is just straight up unfair. He took down their physically strongest member like it was a video game tutorial. But he only did that because he was a spider. If he wasnt one, there would be another pair of red eyes for some rich guy to collect.
Even one guard on a bad day would annihilate the entire phantom troupe, it literally isn't even a debate, they are unbeatable even by the most experience humans, Netero probably can't take down Pitou, let alone Pouf and Youpi who have even stronger and diverse abilities
@@tash-edits4219 you don't get it, they are saying that if Shalnark uses this ability for over an hour he would die, if only a few seconds would make his back hurt for a few days, and hour or even a minute would put him in a seriously bad state.
He's too fast though I wouldn't be surprised if Meruem can speed blitz like half the troupe before they even react (and even them it'd be a losing chase)
ye deffo, the chairman who had probably the fastest reaction time could barely react to meruem. I wouldnt be surprised if bo one in the phantom troupe could even see meruem
I love how the only plausible strategy for the Phantom Troupe to defeat Meruem comes down to Chrollo giving Meruem the ol' stabby stab with his Ben's knife LMFAO
Its not even plausible since that knife would just break on contact with Meruem’s skin Also, the poison from that Benz knife doesnt compare to the Roses
The knife strategy may not work, but there are plenty of other strategies that could actually work against Meruem, it just that people are way too caught up in their power level way of thinking to even bother to think that Meruem physical stats don't just counter any nen ability.
@@getreadyforthenextbattle549 Its not the point of soley power level but there is only so much you can do when an enemy overpowers you to such a degree, they can literally blitz and one shot you within .1 of a second Its not the fact if Chrollo has a Hatsu that could deal with Meruem, but if he can do it If Chrollo and Meruem faced off like Hisoka and Chrollo, Meruem could obliterate Chrollo’s head before he could summon or open his book. Nothing shown in Hisoka vs Chrollo would make a dent on a Royal Guard, let alone, the King. People think Feitan can kill Meruem or even have the speed to compete Nanika and the DC are meant to show that the creatures there are not all gonna be on par with Meruem or a Royal Guard. But they have such OP abilities that can kill more efficiently and larger numbers than the ants Also, some you cannot fight against. Like, you dont fight a disease in combat, you survive it The size scale of the DC also makes it dangerous, as Netero’s flashback showed creatures ranging from large elephants to bigger than mountain ranges. The biggest creature shown in that flashback, given its sheer size and power, I doubt Meruem or Netero could defeat it in direct combat. See what I mean? The DC is about surviving, not winning and losing battles. People think power levels and that every person on the DA is on par with Meruem, thats not how it works Hellbell can likely be destroyed by Meruem but if it uses its ability on him, MEruem could easily die or be affected.
@@aceclover758 The 'poison' from the rose is basically radiation and Meruem died of radiation poisoning , that explains how its contagious , the Benz knife is literally nothing compared to that
@5:40 And yet if Shalnark gets control of one Chimera Ant he practically makes the fight go from a complete loss to a potential win. This is why Power Scaling doesn't work in HxH, he's physically weak, could maybe at best be able to dodge one attack, but his powers aren't suited for one on one combat, in fact it isn't even combat it's infiltration and chaos. This is the type of thing Morel was referring to when it came to Nen battles, this is why some fights simply can't be classified, you could be weaker than your opponent in every conceivable way, to the point that they in a one on one should always win, yet you have an ability that may control someone, that may be equal to bridge the gap in intelligence and ability. A much better combatant would be Finks who isn't limited by aura usage and can simply just prepare an attack from ten days ago if he wanted to, and in that case him hitting is far more important. Oh and yeah, Shalnark might not be able to 100% confirm a hit on his own, but considering someone like Chrollo using a nen-ability that might allow a clearer shot changes the entire game. Don't forget that Chrollo can straight up equal both the head of the Zoldyck house as well as its previous head at the same time, discerning their abilities and mental state, while also determining what is best in that scenario. Combine that level of thinking and analysis add on the very unique abilities of all Troupe Members and then consider that they are most likely hidden from the Chimera Ants, in fact the main issue is reaching them or picking them off, which even the original extermination force with Killua, Morel, Knov, Netero, Zeno, Gon, Meleoron, Knuckle, and Shoot had difficulty doing. So all those support and infiltration abilities might seem unimportant working in unison is what makes the Troupe balanced and effective, it is the ability to outsmart and outplay your opponent that matters most, even when you look at the Gon example you see that the reason for his expertise is his ability to outplay his opponents. Two captain rank chimera ants attacking him with great levels of cooperation still couldn't beat him, not just because his Ten and Ken was so highly advanced and that his Aura was enough to mitigate the damage caused, but also because he was clever enough to anticipate their attacks and use a more varied move-set in order to corner them. Nen fights are almost always determined by whether the user knows what they're doing and if their overall ability counters their opponent. The reason why Netero ranks Ging so highly is because he's such a versatile and genius fighter, in which he can copy another's ability, decipher it, and apply it, there are so many things you can take away from the system as a whole that makes power-scaling utterly useless.
It would be more fair to send the teams instead of the WHOLE akatsuki because that's to easy Deidara and sasori/hidan and kakazu vs the troupe sounds more fair
@Ray Ramone might its true he would solo due to his massive versatility and nagayo is a god damn genius dude to as a kid master all 5 chakra natures something that a handful of jonin struglle to master 2 to 3
HXH is way different from other anime in how its power scaling works, as it allows for a stronger emphasis on tactical play. Meruem is almost an exception, though. His sheer durability, speed, power, and intelligence is just so ridiculous that a lot of tactical plays just don't work on him and it comes down to sheer power. Though I'm an anime only so
Yeah kinda sucks because under any other conditions netero would of won the fight he literally had the best defense possible but sadly merum was a tank attacks dont phase him how do you beat something you can't damage
@@ChimpRevolution Meloreon + Knov could've killed Meruem and the RG by themselves if they teamed up. God's accomplice + Scream is either an instant kill or they're instantly transported into Knov's Nen dimension. From that point, they just wait until the Ants have starved to death or dehydrate. Another possibility is someone like Kurapika making a specific Nen constraint for the Ant King or the Royal Guards--since that constraint is so specific, the ability would be enhanced immensely. A similar ability to Knuckle's Hakoware or even just Hakoware would've been effective if they were able to buy a little more time. Anything is possible in this perfect power system.
@@ivancatubig8645 You watched Kurapika vs Uvogin? Netero vs Meruem? I've seen Black Clover fights but they don't compare to it when it comes to strategy. Though that's your own opinion.
I started watch hxh when I was in grade school. Now I’m an adult. You don’t wanna know how many times I watch the anime (both) & read the manga. I’m waiting to watch the final season with my grandchildren
@Joe Loe I don't know about that. If Hisoka is waiting for Gon to become stronger, then he must be confident enough that when they fight in the future, at the very least it wouldn't be an easy victory for either one of them. Do you honestly believe that Hisoka is waiting for Gon to train and grow more just to get easily killed by him? It would be very anticlimactic, especially considering Hisoka vs Gon is one of the most anticipated fights in the series, and Gon winning with ease wouldn't live up to the expectations. Besides, Hisoka himself has plenty of potential - he can grow and get stronger. So if and when they fight each other, Hisoka may be stronger compared to the current Hisoka.
lowkey i think the reason knov got scared of the guards was because togashi realized his "4D apartment" ability would kinda be an instant win, so he had to write him out lmao
It made no sense that he would lose his mind at the sight of their nen, and yet everyone else, including the fodder octopus and chameleon dude, were just perfectly fine with it. It felt like he really wasn't used to combat and was only chosen to come along for recon.
@@blacksunshine9995 I'd disagree on his mental state compared to the chemeleon and octopus as they were humanoid creatures reborn from an ant queen and knov was only a regular person who has not sensed a power like pouf
"Maybe you think that Hisoka alone can put up a fight against him [Meruem]" maybe you think a tooth pick can hold 2 Empire State buildings on each of its sides without breaking
i still wish we had an opportunity to see how strong Ging is against another top tier fighter. Watching him mop the floor with someone like Chrollo would just show off feats instantly
Just imagine Ging in his youth challenging Netero and Netero just slaps him with guanyin, taking Ging down instantly. When Netero walks away, Ging just stood back up with Guanyin Bodhisattva behind him. Since he can learn any "punching" nen he got hit instantly
@@michaell1892 That would be hillarious, but he couldn't master the Bodhisattva just by taking a single punch from it because it's not a standard nen punching ability. It supposedly contains the properties of most, if not all, categories of nen.
What's so amazing about Hxh is about how their abilities can be used to counter even someone who is way stronger than they are, aura and physical abilities wise.
That is true up to a point. I believe that the reason for the Chimera Ant Arc, narratively speaking, is to show that there is a level of power that exists in the world that no amount of strategy or planning will allow you to overthrow.
@@martidavid1519 But that's only your interpretation of the arc. It was never explicitly stated that chimera ant arc somehow proved that no amount of strategy is able to counter a lot of power.
@@flickersense Meruem is the proof that no amount of strategy will overcome someone that is magnitudes above your own ability. Even Netero accepted that. The author himself stated that he made Meruem too strong to the point that he had no idea how he was gonna get rid of him. That's why Rose was necessary.
@@martidavid1519 Netero was using brute force on a very durable opponent, so it didn't work. But there're nen abilities, that don't rely on a big amount of aura or raw strength to defeat somebody. And Netero was the only person Meruem fought, except for the human guard in the palace. Meruem defeating Netero one time doesn't somehow prove that no nen ability or character has a chance of defeating him. Show me exactly where did the author state that he had no idea how to get rid of Meruem.
"Argued he didn't have him Nen ability by some". In that chapter he got off the phone with Chrollo after Chrollo asked him if he needed his ability back.
1. Netero couldn’t do it (and he was basically a superhuman who went to the Dark Continent to pick a fight) 2. 100 type Guanyin Bodhisattva did shit to the damn ant (and this ablility is faster than the speed of light) 3. Meruem is a god. They couldn’t touch him even in their dreams. 4. The royal guards wouldnt loose to them. Did you people even see the way Knov went mad when he simply saw/felt Pouf's aura? Or how Netero and Zeno were SHOCKED by Pitou's aura and abilities?? 5. Chrollo's book is useless cause Meruem never had an established/developed ability, his tail was enough. 6. The Phantom Troupe are still humans, they're not invincible. 7. Meruem survived a deadly ass "Poor man's rose" explosion. 8. Their strongest member got eliminated by a rookie in the field of nen. I watched the video knowing the answer was no! They couldn't beat Meruem.
I've seen some people comment about Kite and his scaling so I'll answer some questions and stuff here most of them don't actually really effect anything in the video but I'll clarify:
For Kite's near death ability, it should be important that it's supposed to stop him from dying, reincarnation is a post death ability. Now while I do think it's heavily implied it causes him to reincarnate, I still think that it being a "good spin" and causing Pitou to genuinely think he's a good fight implies more than that, and amplified his ability. Remember, Knuckle, who is scared of Pitou and gets bullied to oblivion by Youpi, is stated to physically equal to Kite, and Kite is never once ever implied to be near Pitou's level. Even Killua doesn't even bring Kite up to scare Netero, despite knowing Kite's ability, he brings up Hisoka and Illumi, which further implies an amp to me, even Ging only theorizes what Kite's ability does, it's never confirmed so of course I'm not going to claim I 100% know either. I'm not saying it's OBJECTIVELY true, and in fact, Kite isn't important really AT ALL for scaling the Troupe. This is the same for me saying he bodied leader and officer ants, which didn't have nen. Once again, the Troupe vs the Ants is moreso class scaling, then actually relying on Kite for anything. Even looking back I could've removed Kite from the entire video and nothing would change. And even if you want to absolutely say that Kite didn't get any amp from Pre-Death, then he'd have simply gotten an amp from getting a good spin.
I've also heard an argument that Hisoka is stronger after dying. And while post mortem nen is stronger, there is no proof Hisoka has permanent post mortem nen, if anything his bungee gum had post mortem nen which he used to revive himself. (Reviving implying he's not dead) Only his bungee gum that restarted his heart is confirmed to be stronger.
Also people are commenting on the arm wrestling and nen, saying the nen is not involved in the arm wrestling... Which I also said in this video and confirmed was absolutely the case even in combat scaling. I don't see why people are complaining about that.
And this video is under the premise that they're in a confrontation with Meruem, not that they couldn't somehow find a way to nuke him or something.. Obviously a rose would beat him, but that's not the point of the video the video is talking about combat scaling.
Also I'm aware Kalluto is a boy, and that Pitou is an It, when I wrote the script I try to imagine the characters and just pictured a female and usually give them their usual gender identity, kind of like what Killua does with Alluka but without the absolute confirmation they want it that way, which I probably shouldn't do. My bad. I even called Pitou a girl one time despite calling it an it like 10 other times in the video (it can also be referred to as he if you're mainly manga but I use it to be indifferent), it's a common error I make when writing.
"Youpi couldn't instantly defeat Knuckle or Shoot" Youpi wasn't at his full potential and didn't understand how to use Nen until the very end, and it's implied he can evolve further beyond that. Pitou doesn't have the same weaknesses in talent, and was pretty much fully evolved from the get-go. Youpi being 10x stronger and it being stated "It is impossible for Shoot to beat Youpi" even without Nen abilities or any strategy does in fact confirm what I'm saying, it is not an anti-feat against me. Youpi is also specifically stated to be non strategic and wasn't even going all vs Shoot with it being confirmed he was absolutely going to win even without nen abilities or strategy (Volume 26, Page 16, Page 39)
"If you use the stat books Komugi can beat Zushi!!" No, the stat books only have Komugi with higher total stats than Zushi, but these stats include things like Talent, Intelligence, Willpower and so on, which she used purely for board games. Zushi and Komugi are both just stated to be bottom tiers in terms of strength and combat ability but with Zushi actually having nen ability whereas Komugi has virtually 0. Total stats =|= stronger in the HxH databooks.
"The series tries to convey fights through Randomness!" We've seen plenty of fights and have plenty of information on straight up 1v1 fights in HxH without "randomness." And I hardly can recall any reason why anything I said in the video is something that can be somehow narrative randomized in a VS vacuum, especially when I'm using pretty objective statements about their scaling like "The most formiddable character they've ever seen!" "It was impossible for him to win!" -Narrator "This character blitzes people relative to this character!", "He can one shot people stronger than this character, therefore-" etc. Bizarre and irrelevant argument.
All in all I think most criticisms of the video are over minor details and not my main argumentation, but even then I'm finding a lot of these "criticisms" a little off balance and don't really make a lot of sense. I think my only real screw up was with calling Kalluto a girl and not giving numeorus prophylactic counters for some of these casual VS thoughts in the comments, but the video was 32 minutes as was when I recorded it and was cut down. Didn't want to make a 1 hour long video countering every conceivable idea people could come up with, like "what if they just run away and grab a nuke and nuke meruem in this VS Battle and power scaling setting!!!" like, c'mon..
"Morel was only at 35% and Pouf didn't dominate him" Pouf psychologically manhandled Morel then took his pipe and threw it in a river with zero effort. Also, in HxH, Aura is not like Ki in Dragon Ball where your power decreases hyper linearly as your energy does. For example, Knuckle Explains that if you have 10,000 Aura and you punch, maybe you use 80 Aura per punch, and your ultimate move uses like 1,000 through 2,000. It's more like a gas tank, not a power level, although, it allows you to put more gas into your attacks if you use that much aura if that makes sense. So unless Morel has an attack that uses over 35% of his total aura in one attack, which not even Gon's enhancer attack that amps his punch by 10x necessarily does, there's no reason to suspect that this 35% capacity is some serious nerf. Especially if they only fought for an instant and all that happened was Pouf bullied him and flew away to find Pitou and Meruem.
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Love your stuff please keep the hunter x hunter content coming👍🏿
SethTheProgrammer bro honestly you’re right kite’s scaling truly doesn’t matter in terms of this video but then there are people who want kite’s scaling to be as accurate as possible but then again I also want you to make a video scaling JUST kite but that’s because his strength is weird in cases as he is able to make the captain-level ants shit themselves but he gets slapped by Poitou. Which I think happened due to kite’s inability to raise his strength in time for the absolute unit that is Poitou like when Goku got shot and hurt by a bullet to get to the point I think kite is on par with Poitou in ability (may be pure head canon but decent guess) but he was slapping with a number four roll and barely beating a captain with a six so I believe kite’s full power is on par or at least comparable to Poitou 🔴however I am not caught up to the manga🔴
SethTheProgrammer, Could you power Organization 13 from Kingdom Hearts?
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Yeah, but Bungee gum contains both properties of rubber and gum
A power that surpasses Jiren for sure
catman9222 not even jiren it clearly surpasses whis
@@Daviyah_yisrael Possibly Zeno level? But that's just speculation at this point
Meruem will be too dumbfounded. I don't think he's ever seen rubber or gum, never mind something that shares the property of both.
Too bad Hisoka isn’t a real member of the troupe. I bet Pika would die if she attacked him
Hard to believe meruem can deal with the properties of rubber AND gum at the same time
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That would be impossible for him too
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Not possible for him to deal with that its too strong
Yeah but Meruem would body him in Gungi. Wait... texture surprise... Hisoka really do be unbeatable.
Meruem: *basically god*
chrollo and Hisoka: *gum and a book*
Sometimes the way characters use their nen abilities is what makes them dangerous. Otherwise, Gotoh's nen ability, which according to him was *firing coins with more power than bullets* should've defeated Hisoka, whose nen ability is *gum* . And Meruem wasn't a god. Gods don't die to poison and don't get beat in a board game. In episode 135 Meruem himself said that he isn't a god.
Mindless J but what does the book have inside, and what are the properties of this gum 🤔
// this comment was a joke I beleive....
@@CE77777
The properties are both of rubber and gum
Austin Blochlinger it was😂 I didn’t mean to upset anybody
beginning of the video: You might be thinking that the troupe has no chance of defeating meruem but let's look at their abilities. End of the video: The troupe really doesn't have any chance of defeating meruem
Lmao
All your preps, abilities and plans are useless against someone that can literally blitz and one shot you before you know what is happening
LMAO
Even with OP abilities like the ones feitan, phinks, and chrollo have, it still wouldn't be enough, especially if it's after meruem absorbed power from youpi and pouf. Chrollo's ability alone would be too risky since he obviously wouldn't be able to steal anything from meruem and I don't think he has any abilities that are strong enough to do damage to the king. Love the troupe, but I don't think anything is stronger than the ants other than whatever's in the dark continent
Edit: the troupe are smart and good at planning things, but like ace said above, it's useless against someone that can one-shot you in seconds lol.
@@aceclover758 nah not if chrollo steals some hax abilities.
But if meruem was serious he could eat users of hax abilities himself.
More like " How fast can Meruem kill all of the Phantom Troupe "
0.1 second
I'd say around a minute at most.
The thing is Meruem was premature as well so he would have been even stronger if he fully developed
Haha with one swipe
Filip Ferenčak if they run fast enough sure a minute
"Some people think hisoka can give meruem some trouble alone"
Meruem: The most powerful character yet
Hisoka: I have the power of both rubber and gum
I am imagining if he is able to get even excite when he ancounter king
How hisoka scratch meruem skin? Even netero needs over thousand punch to scratch him? Can follow meruem speed?
@@garindaburnama2843 he has the power of both rubber and gum
Zhi Xun Pek Hisoka stood y’all against Razor don’t underestimate him
nope hisoka cant even defeat chorollo
"Spoilers for anime watchers"
ok, time to leave
then before I can even leave
"When hisoka starts killing troupe members"
WHEN HISOKA WHAT?!
Hisoka vs C. Lucifer is dope. Rampage time for Hisoka
This fuckin happens to me lmao. He should've at least pause 3 seconds for us to escape this spoiler.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, two already died lol
doesn’t matter man, the anime never coming back 😔
you said it pefectly. Meruem was conceived as someone who wasn't supposed to be even on the scaling. The scale doesn't apply to him, because he is even far above the scale itself. That was done due to the story that Togashi wanted to tell. The evil Meruem, who kinda went through a abridged version of a hero's journey. With him being more powerful than anyone in the series, he didn't have to struggle physically, but his emotions got triggered when he met Komugi. This weak blind girl, who he could've obliterated out of existence without her even noticing. But she beat him in that game over and over again, which is what he needed and finally he found someone who is his peer and that is what made him become more human. So he needed to be that strong for this storyline to work as well as it did.
The contrast to Gon's descent into madness is also a masterclass if this manga / anime. I love Meruem as a character and Gon's character development as well.
Its funny that his pride led him to find happiness, he couldn't accept losing to what he thought was a worthless person. So he kept her alive until he can win because if he kind her out of frustration he would've forever been a loser at gungi. But in doing so, playing against her, he found greater joy in facing an opponent who can truly challenge him, and learn to appreciate that strength comes in many forms, he forms respect and admiration for her, later turning into love.
His journey is really well written, because even tho he did some terrible things, and was still planning to assert his will over others, creating a society based on meritocracy by force, we still sort of root for him to be happy.
Strange enough, in the Dark Continent his species isn't the top dog, so we probably are yet to meet the really disasters/dangerous creatures that permeate it.
@@258Loures we've met one through alluka/nanika
Yeah tho i don't think we need another species that seeks world domination that is simply stronger, if humans could only hope to gain time against the guards and never touch Meruem there's no point in rising the bar, it would be exactly as effective even if the new threat was x100 stronger
"Godspeed, which is faster than any other character"
"Godspeed is surpassing the human limits"
Meanwhile grandma following killua on a bike like a boss.
I don't know what gives people the idea of no characters being able to react to or to move as fast as Godspeed Killua, considering that *even before transforming into a motorbike, his butler(Tsubone) was able to follow Godspeed Killua on her own in the forest* . Also:
1. The first time Killua hit Youpi with his lightning, it was a surprise attack, since Killua was invisible with Meleoron and Youpi was focused on Knuckle. But getting hit by that lightning might have affected Youpi's reaction speed which in turn affected his ability to react to Godspeed Killua later.
2. Knuckle was able to dodge countless of Youpi's attacks, and Shoot even kept up with Youpi in a 1 vs 1 fight, by dodging Youpi's attacks and even landing one attack of his own on one of Youpi's eyes. If Knuckle and Shoot were able to do that, then who's to say that some other characters aren't able to move fast enough for Youpi to not be able to react to them.
// Killua is the faster after Meruem, eand Yupi can see Lightning of Speed Killua’s movement, but not Whirlind’s Killua’s mouvement
It's not even his speed, even his time reaction is not enough against Killua
@@devil2457 Killua's movements in Godspeed: Whirlwind were never shown to be faster than Killua's movements in Godspeed: Speed Of Lightning, but even if we assume that they are faster: it is still unknown whether Youpi is able to keep up with Killua's Speed Of Lightning mode, because we have never been shown Killua using that against Youpi. Even assuming that Youpi is able to react Killua's movement in Godspeed: Speed of Lightning, as i've said in my previous comment, Youpi's speed was never shown to be much faster than the speed of a lot of the members of the invasion team - Knuckle was able to dodge and run away from Youpi a lot of times. Shoot was also able to dodge Youpi's attacks a lot, and was even able to land one attack on Youpi. All of this to say, that Youpi not being able to react to Killua's movements in his Godspeed: Whirlwind mode, doesn't mean that nobody else is able to do it.
killua was holding aluka and grandma's nen is literally vehicles, they better be fast cuz hey have no other use
// Killua literally *outspeeded* Pouf who was definitely faster than Youpi. Also Killua hilf Alluka and was running away from the grandma on a fcking Road, the only thing which was measured was the sole speed. The speed which the grandma achieved was the full power of such an old and experienced Nen user plus she was on a full road, but Killua just causally competed in this category with such a strong cavarcter who had focussed on this. Also the speed in absattle couldn‘t be achieved by the Grandma and Killua’s reaction is definetely faster than anyone else‘s.
Short answer: no
Long answer: lol no
😂😂😂 this is great
Actually, phantoms can win. All they need is to make the king wound. Then Shizuku can suck the blood off.
@@ismailfaalih9559 well it's not that easy to cut the king lmao if netero couldn't so my answer to your reply is: (read my comment again)
@@ismailfaalih9559 Actually Shizuku said the wounds can be covered so Meruem can do that
@@darkghostgamings22 Netero didn't have any fancy tricks, he was just stronk hands go boom
Chrollo has some fancy tricks that could do a number on meruem
meruem stomps no cap, royal guards vs phantom troupe would be dope tho
The BOI facts
The Royal guards would stomp
@@justtoolit6051 There is a chance for the Phantom Troupe to defeat the Royal Guards. Kite was missing an arm, yet was still able to fight Pitou, and make it enjoyable enough for her to want to bring him back to life to fight him again. We don't even know whether the nen ability he rolled against Pitou was made for fighting, since Ging mentions later in the series that there's a nen ability Kite rolls to not die in a dangerous situation(if it's something like a reincarnation nen ability, then it isn't for fighting). Pitou's injuries after fighting Kite weren't shown to be as prominent in the anime as they were in the manga at the end of chapter 199, in which she was shown to have multiple cuts. Right before the start of the invasion Morel said that his own physical and mental conditions were 35 out of 100, yet he still survived against Pouf 1 vs 1, while being inside of the smoke and after deactivating it. Pouf even said that Morel had a chance of killing him, if he searched for Pouf inside of the cocoon, instead of deactivating his smoke(chapter 286). Youpi almost lost his nen to Knuckle's nen ability. The narrator said that he was minutes, if not seconds, away from losing his nen. And Youpi never fought all of his opponents during the invasion at once. Most of the time he fought from 1 to 3 characters(counting Meleoron) at the same time. Shoot was able to keep up with Youpi 1 vs 1 for a while. And in the chapter 106 of the hxh manga, the narrator said that every member of the Phantom Troupe has at least one nen ability that the other members don't know about. Also, Kurapika created 5 different nen abilities during the 6 months he was learning nen. The Phantom Troupe members have all known nen for much longer than 6 months, so there's a chance we haven't seen all of their nen abilities. Chrollo has a book full of nen abilities.
While I think Pitou could probably body the Phantom Troupe, the Troupe could be like Netero and use Human-made things to kill Pitou instead.
Actually, if the Poor Man's Rose could kill Meruem... If the Phantom Troupe can set a few of those off, they might be able to kill the Ants.
@@flickersense Your reasons do not apply to a fight with the Phantom Troupe. Nobody was able to damage Youpi, and while Knuckles ability is trouble, no one in the Troupe has that ability. And Pouf had no interest in fighting Morel at that point, so there is nothing to get from that fight.
The weaker Spiders would get killed immediately by Pitou and Youpi. Thats Shal, Kortoupi, Shizuku, Paku, and Bono, all dead. The only one that could possibly damage Youpi is Feitan, maybe. And his injuries would have to be great enough that he cant really fight after using his nen ability. I dont think it would kill Youpi, but Phinks could finish him off afterwards if he was charging during Feitan's fight. That takes care of 1 ant.
Pouf is a tricky match-up, none of the enhancers can really do anything. So Uvo, Nobunaga, are kinda useless. I dont see how Machi and Franklin can beat Pouf either. That means that you HAVE to use Chrollo against him, with Franklin as an assist. 2 ants down.
That leaves Nobunaga, Uvo, and Machi versus Pitou. This one is interesting. With the right strategy the Spiders could win, this is assuming that Nobu can react to Pitou's attacks if she enters his En. Otherwise they are gonna get killed. Machi is the most vulnerable, so Nobu and Uvo have to hold Pitou's attention so she doesnt blitz Machi. Then Machi can use her threads during the fight to suprise and impair Pitou's movement enough for Uvo and Nobu to deal lethal damage in the brief opportunity.
Given the feats and portrayal of the Royal Guard, I think its easier to assume that Feitan cannot deal enough damage to Youpi. And that Nobunaga cannot react to Pitou. And if thats the case then the entire fight crumbles and the ants win. But the Troupe has a fair chance, the match-up is close to even. The wildcard is ofcourse Chrollo, if he finds a way to deal with Pouf quickly, then he can assist in other fights and then it snowballs in the Troupe's favor.
Meruem survived a nuclear blast, which astute viewers will know have the properties of both nuclear and blast. No chance the Troupe gets near beating him.
Did you forget about feitans pain packer it hits with the power of the sun
@@PzDallas he died from radiation poisoning from the nuke
@@PzDallas he was hurt thats why youpi had to give up most of his body
@@PzDallas survived with medical treatment basically. idk if he would have just taken a real long time to heal or something otherwise
No he died. He was still conscious but he was about to die.
Just let Phinks wine his arm up 50000 times and let him throw a punch
While hidden in Meleoron's god's accomplice haha
@@peeferin9476 god tier strat right there
Plus add Shalnark's supersaiyan remote thing
Yeah that functions like a spirit bomb.
@@peeferin9476 That's not a fight, that's an assassination. Besides, Meleoron isn't a member of the Phantom Troupe.
Tonpa would crush Meruem like the rookie he is using his special ability, Deluxe juice can. Same goes for the Troupe
That ain’t even debatable at that point
Bruh, talk about mismatch. Tonpa is way too powerful for anyone in the HXH universe to take on him. At least Zeno level, easily
Ofcourse
Tonpa could take on prime Netero and post-nuke Meruem at the same time. Low diff ofc
@@Xdlol-xx6jf has the manga started back?
Feitan's rising sun is as hot as the sun.
Escanor: "who decided that?"
LMAOOOOO!🤣 super underrated
Cringe
@@Legendpyrocharmander stfu
Studio DEEN decided that
@@ogkopykush1857 escanor fanboy?
Meruem is literally immune to physical dmg. Even Netero needed millions of blows to make him feel something similar to pain. Meruem on the other hand just had to touch him to rip one of his legs out and after that flower nuke he became even stronger. Meruem was on a whole different powerscaling than the other hunters. There were just a handfull of characters who could pose a problem for his pre nuke form.
It was thousands of blows not millions. I get that its just semantics but it was only a couple thousand
I don’t think you know what literally means
@@snowman9631 it was after hundred thousands not a couple
@ercterburn1053 No, it really wasn't... HxH characters aren't that strong or fast.
The translations literally say "was an exchange of more than a thousand punches." Or "an exchange that exceeded a thousand" If it was really in the 10s or 100s, they would say so.
I feel like only Adult Gon could have a chance at defeating Meruem or heck we may even need Adult Killua for post Nuclear Meruem
Nah fam, these chimera ants are nothing compared to my RAIDS bug spray
😂😂😂
Well, he DID die poisoned
@@guifdcanalli raid dont even kill cockroaches. what about a super powered beast of nature.
Lol
FBI how about a RAZOR to give phantom troupes some shaving
dont let this distract you from the fact that kurenai tried to use genjutsu on itachi
This is a gem
It was logical to fight with him Genjutsu...
we should start talking about how Sasuke used Chidori against Bee
P
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I love how the community has come together and decided tonpa is the strongest anime character in existence 🗿
he is
No, ramen guy is
@@tyresejeffers7857 I mean you do have a point👀
Wut
@@tyresejeffers7857 lol
Tbh I do like how Pakunoda gets an arm broken and teeth knocked out and she just is like
"Wait that happened? Lol"
Netero: pituo is stronger than me.
Gon:aight imma hit puberty real quick
She was stronger than him while he was still rusty. He hit his form again after training against all those ants he slaughtered in the glasses dude's space time room.
They lowkey hoed netero when they brought the king back though ngl
@@TaIIer king still died in the end. It aint that bad
@@jaybee5513 he managed to hit pitou thanks to his position and strategy but did 0 damage to pitou.
Netero managed to hit a lot of times Meruem too, but he was way way way way weaker
@@TaIIer netero knew if mereum was still somehow to magically survive the explosion he wouldve died to the poison
bungee gum solos both the HxH universe and every other universe.
It has the properties of both rubber and gum
crazy how it also has the properties of gum
Yet did not prevent chrollo from killing him
Cody Mckeown but it did though
@@abz4852 i absolutely didn't saw that coming!
@@abz4852 And rubber
Killua: Nanika, kill Meruem and the royal guards!
Nanika: 'kay.
😅😂
I think it could happen right?
Mimi The Yume Nanika likes Killua so she’ll probably tone it down a bit like she did to save Gon
FAX
Outside the Rose bomb, this is the only way to defeat Mereum that makes sense within the world of HxH
Honestly the chimera ant threat could’ve been eliminated with less casualties if they’re was a more pragmatic person at the head of the Hunter association. On the other hand the reason Netero was so damn strong was bc he was insanely selfish and prideful the epitome of a Hunter and that’s why at the ripe old age of 100 something he chose to lead a 3 man team and fighting meruem by himself.
The thing is, the ant extermination was heavily sabotaged by Pariston. He basically rejected many applications to personnel (which some may had some exotic ability that could tilt the chips heavily on the human's favor)
I mean through no fault of their own it would have been done without casualties if gon and killea never met kite/went along with him in the mission
Not really that easy...considering how the first chimera ants reached NGL of the Mitene Union and we're able to spread and become stronger was mostly 'cos the Union had really strict rules of admissions. If the chimera ants reached almost every other country in HxH world, probably there would have been a faster response, but NGL rules wanted that everything was as much natural (corrupted actually 'cos of Gyro himself) as possible.
I will save you 30 minutes of your life : "Even Netero could barely scratch Meruem, what could Phantom Troupe ever do to him then"
True but chrollo could be stronger then netero, netero states he’s far weaker then he was in his prime
I think only Ging could solo him easily !!
Brendan Griffith chrollo was getting folded by Zeno Zoldyck
@@Dontpostdumbcomments Even if chrollo was stronger. The rest of the troupe is such a lower level than chrollo that they are almost negligible in the fight against mereum
@@Dontpostdumbcomments Excuse me what? Chrollo got destroyed by Zoldycks... Which arent nearly as strong as Netero, just Maha Zoldyck was on par with Netero, but we didnt see him fight.
Chrollo: The conditions for him to steal an ability are :
He needs to see how the Nen ability works
He have to ask about the ability and be answered by the target
Target has to touch the handprint on the book
All of the above must be done within an hour
The condition for him to use the stolen ability :
He have to open the page where the ability is written and the page has to remain open in his right hand.
The ability will be limited to its original user’s personality or beliefs
Once the original user died, the ability will also gone (exception if the Nen is stronger after death, it will remain)
Hisoka: *G U M*
You had one job and it was to remember that Hisoka uses rubber too Smh
Didn't Hisoka have a condition where it grew stronger the more he told his opponents about it?
He can now use 2 at a time and not have to hold the book cause of his bookmark ability.
Does meruem even have a nen ability?
@@kawosdhdos Win the fight
Conditions required : be Meruem
Bruh just get an anti-bug spray 😂
Deas ass😂😂😂
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@No1sy you deadass just bacame the strongest person on earth by defeating meruem when netero sacraficed it all omfg what was the point in all the deaths
The Phantom Troupe would get crushed. None of them are strong enough to take a hit from the King. During pretty much all of his fight with netero, the king wasn't really trying to kill him. Also, he gained a lot of power after he was regenerated. Following that he still has space to grow.
The Troupe if they directly confronted him would each get blitz and one shot one shot.
None of them would have the reaction to even see Meruem nor take a hit from him, even Uvo if he was alive.
He was trying, but took his time to achieve something that would prove his overwhelming superiority
@Robel Habte deez nuts
@@aceclover758 This. They are human after all. And king is super fast to the point that it would be quite difficult to react to his attacks. To predict his movements, react, defend and use abilities to counter all at the same time is close to impossible to Troupe members. Not to mention King was insane durability so any attack that hits him somehow is likely to have no effect.
Lol no, Meruem is so cocky, Chrollo will put him on a handkerchief if he give him the same opportunity as Netero
Killiuas opinion is invalid, he thought he could kill netero
Yeah. Arguments like "X character said this about Y character, therefore Z character doesn't have a chance of defeating Y character" don't work, since just because somebody said something doesn't mean it is actually the case. The poster of this video chose to disregard Morel's statement about how you never know what happens in a fight, yet chose to use what Killua says as an evidence, even though Morel is much more experienced than Killua. Even if we disregard their experience, judging the characters' capabilities based on another character's statements doesn't work, regardless.
That was a killua who did not know about nen
@@miriotogata5474 Even without the knowledge of nen, Killua still knew Netero was holding back, because he himself told Gon that Netero wasn't using his left leg and his right arm, and they still weren't able to take the ball from him. Yet he was still sure he would've killed Netero. So whether Killua knows nen or doesn't know nen, his words aren't always reliable.
@One Killua underestimated Bisky during the greed island arc, and he already knew about nen at that time. And in the heaven's arena Killua was confident that Wing wasn't able to kill him, yet got instantly scared when Wing directed his aura at him.
// cause she’s a woman
“For the first time in the series, you can actually hear his footsteps” I knew they never added footstep sounds for killua, but even after watching that scene tons of times, it never even crossed my mind.
Yeah that’s awesome
Video is kinda long I missed this quote. What time was it
Mirio Togata 18:10
Wow went back to rewatch most killua scenes and this one in particular MIND BLOWN
I want to rewatch that episode, but I can't remember which episode it is. Please tell me
Someone really thought Hisoka could handle Meruem alone?
Crazy. I couldn't possibly imagine it.
It was possible for those you didn't read the manga. But now it makes very clear.
He can, in case you forgot Hisoka's attack has both the properties of rubber and gum and Meruem can do nothing against that.
Rex4Smash hisoka would love to fight meruem. He likes strong people, and most of all, meruem is very YOUNG. 😉
@@hdhcxgtsdfndogd900 hahaha omg i d love to see Hisokas face expression when he saw Meruem that would ve been hilarious!
@@GG-pm8lc sarcasm right????
I think people low key underestimates Phantom Troupe. They are one of the coolest anime villain group
@@thatgal not underrated but overrated tbh
@@Vincenzo_cassanno I never said they are underrated, I know they are quite popular but not as overrated as Akatsuki, anyway they’re both cool villain groups
@@thatgal true. Been watching anime for 15 years and watches so many animes, akatsuki are extremely overrated while spider phantom are really underrated compared to other shits and overhyped anime’s villains group
they're strong and all, but i still think that the phantom troupe cant beat meruem
@@sham8127Yea against Meruem they might have less possibility, but well you never know
adult gon solos the phantom troupe
Ging* - yes he does
Never thought i would see u here bro =/
I dont think he's experienced enough mentally to get thru Crollo. That dude is crazy brilliant.
Nahhh you buggin
@@RDGikTv he’s as strong as meruem
Killua: hey Nanika, kill the ant King.
Nanika: Kay.
I was thinking the same thing lol..
@Meganime it would've been a really boring anime if it turned out that way
@Meganime Every wish has a cost, I wish as big as killing someone like Mereum would have a pretty big cost
@Pedro De Lima Kawase I think it has to do with their relationship. I don't think Killua wants to ask too much of Alluka, the only reason he went for Gon is because nothing else in the world could've saved his best friend.
You literally reposted an 3 months old that pops up not even 5 seconds while scrolling down.
There's a reason Togashi didn't include Hisoka in the Chimera arc, the poor dude would've been nuked trying to fight a strong opponent
Yup. Hisoka wouldve badly want to fight a Royal Guard or the King, only to die.
But NGL and the palace wouldve been a field day for him. Many strong opponents and the ants are stronger than average Nen users
i think he would die very happily tho
Haitian Xu, not true. Otherwise, he wouldnt have been so interested in Gon. Gon is a pure enhancer that uses overhwmpling power.
By your logic, Hisoka would not care about Adult Gon, when Hiska was practically jizzing himself over Gon’s immense potential.
While Hisoka loves countering unique abilities he loves fighting anyone strong, not soley for their abilities.
He was also salivating over his raw potential and aura.
All his fights?
He fought Hisoka twice, once without Nen and the other, Hisoka going easy on him by not even using Ren to power up.
Gon will never be as intricate as Chrollo. The only things Gon showed ability wise is raw power just like Uvo. Him not wanting to fight Uvo, you could say the same thing about the other Troupe Members about not wanting to fight them, despite having them in his “toy chest”
Chrollo is just the biggest challenge since he has so many abilities and many not known.
Hisoka is a sore loser to a fault as we seen.
He lost to Chrollo despite letting Chrollo prepare all he wanted and now, wants to kill the Spiders and Chrollo without any warning or prep time now.
@@aceclover758 Gon has never been about raw/overwhelming power. He has very high athleticism and generally fights using a mix of that, his nen, and his creativity/battle tactics, doing things his opponents typically wouldn't expect.
0-day Meruem casually killing squadron leaders with his tail.
Feitan: "Rising sun"
The more interesting question would be: "If Kurapika dedicated his nen abilities towards Chimera ants only, can he defeat Meruem? Will his chains still be unbreakable?"
He would have to have the same hatred for them like he did with the Troupe
It is not a matter of “let me make a chain that only works on ants”
Also, even if Chain Jail worked on Meruem for any reason, Meruem is way too fast to get caught. And without Nen, he is still very strong in terms of raw power
Even if he is caught by chain jail, he would probably break it due to his sheer physical strength.
If he wasn't certain his chains could hold Uvogin, then forget about him ever coming close to holding Meruem. That's like someone unsure whether they can definitely arm wrestle an average man, and then interpreting that doubt to also speculate whether this person might be able to arm wrestle a gorilla. If that's the information I have available about the person, then my money is on the gorilla.
No meruem would also dogethe chains
@ you are remember when killua said gon with anger might be a threat to even pitou
Hisoka killing the Phantom Troupe
Kurapika: *wait, that's illegal!*
If you see it that way, Hisoka is helping Kurapika in a way by killing The Spider's Members
Hector Beltran you missed the joke
Hector Beltran take a joke
Not only is this meme dead, it's also a spoiler for anime only fans.
@@lizzywizzypop5961 What is this "joke" thing you talk about?
I like 'what if' fights against people in the same show. Especially in a show like HxH, very consistent and doesn't have power scaling issues.
Joe Smith it does have scaling issues though the nuke just nullifies them I guess
@Gee Tar its more balanced than what? it has scaling issues its just they fit into the show well anyway so its all g and nuke ends all scaling issues or dark continent (which is an issue in itself when explored which cant be done)
@@dadeee7776 what? I'm talking about power scaling issues that shows like Fairy Tail has. You may have an idea about the power of a character, then all of a sudden they are way better for no reason.
What if fights between characters from other anime doesn't work for me. Different IPs mean different rules and to many unknown quantities.
@@dadeee7776 I have no idea what you're trying to say
Meruem vs. Phantom Troupe would basically go about exactly as Perfect Cell from DBZ vs The Akatsuki. There you go.
😂
Still kinda mad how they did my man Kite dirty at his death
With barely any screen time..
@@Thudas22 agreed. They never explained how SPOILER he revived himself or relayed his “soul” into another person. But I’m also just an anime watcher, no manga.
@@_SeeYouSpaceCowboy i know right it kinda confused me
Honestly it would be better if Kite just died completely instead of transferring his soul into a girl.
@@lonewolf4689 well we have no idea what will happen with Kite and the other characters in the future they might get tied back into the story for some reason.
or the story just keeps being in limbo... ;-;
Just for your info: Killua never said Pitous aura was stronger than Hisokas or Illumis, he just said it was scarier..
in hxh world the scarier the aura the stronger it is
i think the phantom troupe will get killed one by one like nitro limbs
@@chad63 Malicious aura represents the character/their feeling towards whoever is sensing their aura. Both Hisoka and Illumi have scared Killua with their auras, which is why he mentioned them. Meanwhile, Komugi and the other people who Meruem played board games with were inside of Pitou's EN for days and days, yet were never even bothered by her aura.
Also, Hisoka and Illumi may have been holding back on their aura not to kill Killua, while Pitou didn't hold back because she didn't care about what happened to Killua.
@Sou heib they have a scary aura lol everyone does. they just dont show it. example is netero. even killua ran from it. that's his scary aura
2:30 "Hisoka easily manhandling Machi with his bungee gum" I see what you did there
MMmmMmMmM.....( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Alien X Bungee gum has both the properties of rubber and gum...
Alien X I don't get it
also known as "elastic love" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
jBaO493 thanks this comment made my day 🤣
I really wish Uvo didn’t die so early. He had the coolest personality and was a straight up tank too , my favorite kind of character
He was for sure a beast.
He so dumb, that's why make he die first ok
@@linggaviekas5637 I was actually just thinking about that , if Uvo didn’t scream out of rage when the
Troupe saved him Kurapika’s squad would have got clapped for sure
Dude, the guy was a sociopath. I guess that makes for a personality trait here.
SAME BRO
To be real tho, Hunter x Hunter has often shown that teamwork is much more important than solo strength
this, exactly. i thought the video would approach the fight as in the troupe going in together vs the king: them combining their abilities (for example Hisoka using his bungee gum to throw illumi's needles at a greater speed), covering for each others weakness etc. That would have been a way more interesting video than stating what everyone already knows: meruem is unbeatable in a 1v1 deathmatch.
Yea, in scenarios where teamwork is actually capable of exploiting some weakness and often because someone with convenient powers exists in that particular arc. Without Knuckle or Meleoren, Youpi would have killed everyone once they stormed the palace. The sheer magnitude of difference between Squadron leaders ( one of Whom was Bullying Feitan and would have killed him if she didn’t stop to look at pain packer) and Royal Guards is massive. The gap between the guards and Meruem is also massive. The Phantom Troupe as Togashi chose to portray them is simply not a threat to the Royal Guards, much less Meruem, regardless of teamwork. Illumi himself referenced Pitou as being a nigh unstoppable monster who made him look like trash in retrospect.
@@Shoddragon So many inaccurate statements in your comment.
1. If Knuckle and Meleoron didn't exist, then before attacking the palace, the invasion team would have just come up with a different plan to deal with Youpi.
2. Not only was Feitan rusty when fighting Zazan, but Zazan made a restriction by tearing off her tail(which was her way of creating soldiers) and by changing her appearance(which she cared about) in order to gain a lot of raw strength. We've seen what restrictions can do in this show. In the end, Feitan still killed Zazan with a sun that cost him only a broken arm and some injured organs. So no, Zazan wasn't bullying Feitan.
3. Saying that Zazan would have killed Feitan if she didn't stop to look at the pain packer is a baseless assumption.
4. Togashi has never portrayed the Phantom Troupe as "not a threat" to the Royal Guards.
5. Illumi has never said that "Pitou was an unstoppable monster who made him look like trash in retrospect." So again, baseless claims.
In this case though, unless each of them is above Royal Guard level, then possibly. But it was made clear with the Netero fight that only a point blank rose bomb is capable of damaging him. Within the series, the bomb is the ultimate destructive weapon. You may survive the blast (as did Mereum) but you'll still die from the chemical effects. And if Feitan is dead, I highly doubt that his skill include post-mortem activation.
that only works if the power difference isn't too wide. meruem is literally off the charts in every category. Teamwork of the phantom troupes level means nothing
Fun Fact: Meruem was so strong that Togashi couldn’t even figure out a way to kill him, so he just finished his death off with him dying with a disease he got from nuclear blast Netero caused.
Has gon recovered his nen
This is why I respect his Togashi's work sk much. He makes rules for his universe and sticks with it, he doesn't just use some BS to finish things up and messing up what have already been established
[Spoilers] --> I also love how he's not afraid to kill off certain characters. In respect to Mereum's power, he kills off the most powerful nen user in the world to kill off the most powerful creature in the world. It wasn't just some idiotic "resolve and friendship" moment. Gon had to pretty much sentence himself to a lifelong coma just to beat Neferpitou. Even though Gon did eventually get revived, it wasn't because someone cried over his grave. Killua had to go through a mission and the risk was definitely there for him to achieve his goal and there were consequences. Togashi's stuff is great and I really hope he does get better soon and writes some issues.
~~And also stops playing dragonquest~~
What abt in his youth?
@@trippyerror4602 no
You're all missing the real question;
1:38 where did Hisoka get all that cake?
That's where he keeps all his napkins for texture suprise.
@@asphaltshingles8594 loool im dying
@@asphaltshingles8594 he would.
lmao XD
@@asphaltshingles8594oh this one got me😂😂😂😂
That "spoiler for anime watchers" was not long enough at all
The point of the Ants in the story is twofold:
1. Show how powerless the most powerful humans are.
2. Show how dangerous humanity as a whole is.
The point was never a power level contest. That runs completely opposite of the narrative theme.
Ummmmm I thought it was to show how strong creatures from the dark continent are with ever single one of them being an extinction level threat
@@mohamedelhediissa289 There's too much attention paid to humanity for that to be the main reason. The Dark Continent isn't even mentioned until near the end of the next arc. Also even when we see examples of creatures from the Dark Continent, humanity is still rated as being more dangerous than the Ants. It's become a running theme.
@@mohamedelhediissa289 Ants arent even strong in the beginning.They only became strong because they cross breed with humans.
Giorgos And
Its not always about power in HxH true
But the thing is it very well will come down to power in HxH especially when their difference in intellect and power is just so great.
We have seen Meruem’s durability, he was able to tank thousands of hits from the strongest hunter, the pinnacle of all hunters (according to Knov, if Netero cAnt fight someone, no hunter can)
And there is no ability that can harm Meruem.
Literally not a single ability that can hArm meruem that any of the troupe members have
Feitan, the 4th strongest member struggled against a squadron leader, some even struggled against officers and peons.
Meruem would only have to kill someone and get their ability by eating them
Someone like Uvogin who he can one shot.
Then he uses big bang against them and its game over
Royal Guards vs Troupe is more fair
Giorgos And
The Royal Guards always protect the king even when they know an intruder would have gotten one shotted and destroyed by him, for example when Zeno Rained down the dragons Pitou and Pouf were very scared for the King even tho the dragons would do absolutely nothing to him.
She said his fangs could reach the king meaning he could hurt him, she never said that he can kill him.
We don’t really know how strong the zodiacs are some are double star or first star hunters, Hisoka ranked all of the nen users there and ranked some of the zodiacs to be 8 through 9 in his weird scaling, and he ranked Illumi a 9.5, some of the Zodiacks arent probably even fighters but if Illumi can scale above or even the mid tier Zodiacks i think Netero is very well above them.
Knov literally said that if Netero can’t beat Pitou or even the King than nobody can which means Netero is literally the pinnacle of all hunters.
Netero is an old man i guess but i don’t see any hunter going through his Buddha statue.
The strongest ability in HxH: technology
makes sense, the creator of rose bomb prob unintentionally put nen in it or something
Thats some real life shit
@@randynguyen7767 Nah, that would imply that a single person hand made every Poor Man's Rose - which I'm pretty sure isn't the case since they're mass produced.
technology improves through time/generations after all
One word. Nanika
I feel Hisoka is a more dangerous opponent to Chrollo than most people are, specifically people who are said to be stronger than Hisoka. The beauty of the power system in Hunter x Hunter.
S C A R S chrollo is like 30 times stronger in the manga he killed hisoka and was barely scratched
@@nahitzsteph5896 Chrollo had literally every single advantage in that fight along with hell from other troupe members.
@@Priceluked The help is still just a theory also if there was help it was only in making nen dolls and that one bungee gum moment.
@@nahitzsteph5896 in a 1v1 with no advantage for either sides meaning both just fight with their raw power with no plan/help hisoka would win every time. There is a reason why chrollo had to prepare for the fight so much. If he really was 30 times more powerful than hisoka he wouldnt actually need to prepare.
Subscribe to Pewdiepie that’s like saying Batman isn’t powerful because he needs to prepare for a lot of his opponents. Intellect and strategy is a form of strength. Chrollo prepped and ROLFstomped Hisoka, he was trying to prove a point. He didn’t just beat him, he utterly obliterated him.
Bruh, Meruem's level compared to the Phantom Troupe in terms of raw power and speed, is like Cell to a bunch of Yamchas.. Unless you consider prep time for the troupe, of course they might have a chance...
How they would have a chance if they don´t know nothing about meruem, no one knows actually how you prepare against an enemy that you know shit about it.
Well there was this theory that phinks could one shot meruem if he wound his arm around enough times
@@aloysiuslim914 *if phinks kan lay his hands on meruem of course. Before that, meruem already chop his head off
@@aloysiuslim914 personally find that theory may not make sense since there is aura limits in this verse, of he can wind his arm up infinitely then that is just unfair lol as the conditions of his abilities is simply that it needs time to charge
@@aloysiuslim914 how much times would he have to wound up his arms😭 till his arm breaks? Even then it still wouldn’t be enough for base meurem dont even get me started on rose
the chimera ant arc was more like a game of chess with each piece having unique abilities and strategies must say HXH is a masterpiece
Best arc in entire anime history.
@@deathbat7311 fiction
@@deathbat7311 yeah, no
It was it´s highs and really has some strong downs, but HxH is great
@@antonioc.5778 no it doesn’t
Can we admit Phantom Troupe was cooler than the Chimera Ants? This is why Yorknew will always be my favorite saga.
Meruem and the RGs are far more interesting characters IMO
I like the ant arc better.
I think The Phantom troupe as a group is better than the Royal Guards, but for me.. Meruem > Chrollo *though Chrollo's one of my fav character in HxH, Meruem is so complex, he's an overpowered extraterrestrial being but somehow many people can relate to him
@@muhamadrayada6580 Well technically, he isn't extra terrestrial, he's just a chimera ant, a beast from the dark continent. Honestly, the dark continent is like an entirely new world, but yeah, Meruem is absolutely a great character.
Cooler ? Yes. Better written. No.
I swear the rubber and gum jokes get me every time lmao. Y’all need to chill 💀😂
What if i said hisoka uses his bungee gum to revive himself after he died
Thats exactly what i said 😂😂😂
But do you know...
Did you know, Hisoka has both properties of Pedophilia and Jail time?
@@LofiCameron cap
meruem easily is the strongest character in hxh so far. he managed to clap netero, who 1) is the strongest nen user alive 2) has the most battle experience out of all humans and 3) is 110 years old. whereas meruem 11) hadn't even unlocked nen yet 2) was only 2 months old or something and 3) has 0 battle experience. even after netero used his strongest attack, meruem had minor injuries and was still standing. whereas netero had lost 2 limbs and was all skin and bones, on the verge of death. if meruem had more experience and trained more and had a weapon, he would ez clap w/o dying. also, netero had to rely on a bomb, something that aint even his power. this is a clear explanation as to who won.
Netero is most certainly not the strongest nen user
@@brandonderue4168 who is then bud?
@@legacytgk9361 Beyond Netero, Nanika, anything from the dark dimension
Singular character yes? Strongest threat no. All the ants and Mereum combined don't even make the top 5 regarding the most dangerous things from the dark continent. Styles make fights. Meruem is essentially a dbz character in hunterXhunter. With that said, there's a number of different nen users who appeared so far that have the ability to defeat the king ant. Beating him with brute force like Netero won't work. He can be outsmarted as Komugi demonstrated over and over. He's also not immune from "disease/virus/radiation" type abilities. Pretty much anything on the biological level cannot be countered.
@@Periodik Meruem had the potential to become an even greater "threat" than what we've seen from the Dark Continent. He was a special being. Of course with the way the story went, we'll never see where that potential could have gone.
Zoldyck family vs royal guards would be a fun one c:
Zeno and Silva destroy them alone imo, let alone Killua.
Zzigg zoldyck could probably solo all 3 guards as he went to the dark continent
@@anhdinh2818 Zeno and Silva couldn't even beat Chrollo when he wasn't even going all out but was trying to instead steal their abilities whereas they were trying to kill him.
Chrollo literally toyed with them.
Somehow they solo the Royal Guard?
This is a joke right?
Abongile Peterson they both weren’t ?? Tf
@@abongilezolanipeterson2737 lmao bro sylva wasn't even fighting him zeno was CONFIDENT he could beat chrollo in a 1v1 and HE IS FARRR from his prime and he's not stronger than sylva, is in his prime although while that dude made a big claim it isn't an impossible claim
The chairman had to give up his life in order to temporarily take him down after giving him everything he's got. The phantom troupe will be dead before the fight even starts.
Im pretty sure even the chairman could take down the phantom troupe by himself. His nen ability is so fast pitou, easily physically stronger the netero and had a much high nen aura output, couldn't even see it, and Morel, a dude that is definitely phantom troupe level, was left speechless by his aura.The chairman could take down the phantom troupe, let alone meruem.
You forgot that The ant King had to not kill him because he wanted his name. Also he didn't even want to kill him m the ant King was pleading with Netero but Netero didn't want to hear that
@@R.O.T.C._SEEM let's not forget that only meureum was able to finally touch netero after withstanding thousands of blows, netero Buddha statue is the best defensive and offense ability you can have in this show, I can't see anyone else except for meureum to touch netero before dying
R.O.T.C SEEM doesn't matter he still couldn't reach him until thousands of hits he said himself the movement be used to summon the Buddha is the only movement too fast for him meaning he couldn't hit him into figuring out his pattern
Wario If he could take them down so easily why didn’t he do it before?
I really miss Kite. He was so damn cool in the Arc. Really wished he escaped from Pitou.
Did u read past the quimera ant arc???
If not then okay, but if u read (watch the anime) then I question ur memory
But still, I don't like the red haired girl kite
@@filipe_paixao bruh I want the original kite design rather than the red-haired one.
I like the red hair girl. I bet kite will look bad ass in fight mode
Since she seems to be maturing fast I hope we get her aged up to kite's original age and wearing his dope ass outfit again then I'll be satisfied lmao
11:55 but Chrollo fought Zeno and Silva at the same time because of the prophecy. He knew he wouldn'd be killed, so he tried to steal their abilities
Some dude really saw Meruem and thought: *yeah, Hisoka could take him*
Lol
Bruh I've seen so many people over the years say that Hisoka/Illumi could beat *anyone* pretty much, it's ridiculous.
Like just because we never see him go up against Meruem doesn't mean you can randomly assume he'd be capable when he's done nothing to show he's that strong.
Character hype doesn't equate to strength...
only way hisoka could win is if meru was a little boy👀
@@vex7804 lmao, take in meruem was a new born before he died...Take that in.
Nocturnal Monk III i know,
hisoka gets hard for boys not newborns
Good luck having all that power when my buddy Light yagami writes names on the note.
😐
david Daniel nice name better count 40 seconds
Exactly these powers are shit in the sight of yagami light
I got you covered fam
what is meruem's full name?
Not even gonna lie, I know none of these characters but imma still watch lol.
It's a series/manga worth checking out
Bro you gotta watch it is a great show and manga
It's one of the best shonen series ever. Do yourself a favor and go watch Hunter x Hunter 2011.
Hxh isn't that good imo but worth a watch
@@returnofhorusthegalacticor9704 what, bro, your opinion but that's crazy
Alot of people are over estimating kite.
Kite is the perfect hunter, his abilities are better than knuckle but nen and physically they’re the same
But kite is 100 times a hunter knuckle is.
Remember in the exam arc gon was 2 times better as a hunter than killua while killua was far stronger than gon
Your whole comment makes no sense.
@@boxiannn to make it simple for someone with a brain a small as yours
Strength =/ hunter ability
Someone being a good hunter doesnt always mean he is a strong
Kite was a perfect hunter, but even gon and killua said that knuckle is as strong as kite.
But some fanboys think that kite is a super powerful being that every being in hunterxhunter world knows lol
@@haziq12ish Your original comment was people are overestimating kite but he's the perfect hunter. Makes absolutely zero sense.
@@boxiannn overestimating in terms of strength
@@boxiannn is like how netero said gon was a better hunter candidate then killua in the hunter exam but killua was obviously far stronger than gon
Thats why killua was pissed during the last exam remember?
If Phinks spent a whole day preparing for a battle by winding up his arm, couldn’t he theoretically, one shot anyone in the series?
What if he miss?
No, because he will fall unconscious when he ran out of Nen for overcharging his attack
He doesn't have an unlimited aura reserve. He'd basically wind up his attack until all his aura was focused into it and he'd shrivel up like Netero did after using Zero Hand.
I dont think he can do damage to ant king even netero zero hand didnt work
@@eliack95 that also costs Nen, Knuckles state that only charging your attack spends Nen from your MAP and AAP
so no, you can´t charge an attack infinitely
Killua would probably actually be able to defeat Meruem.
This is how:
Killua: Yo Something go wipe out Meruem real quick.
Something: Kay.
To those who don't get the joke: Killua's sister is named "Nanika" and "Nanika" translates to "Something" in English from Japanese. So Mr Smurfey is saying Killua could just make a wish to "Something" aka "Nanika" to kill Meruem.
That was the absolute worst arc in the whole series and I prefer to pretend it didn't happen.
• Riftis • ong, who tf wanted to see people use their brains on a freaking election 🤦🏾♂️
@@d0minate926 Dude, Pariston was one of the best crafted villians ever. It was absolutely better than the Greed Island ark.
Dax Bess you’re trolling right?
This might be old, but Shalnark’s autopilot didn’t deactivate because he ran out of energy, he it deactivated because his objective was completed.
I honestly think it depends on how mereums feeling and how prepared the phantom Troup is , I can see mereum taking out half of the phantom Troup in blink of an eye if he's pissed off ...
Does meruem have a butthole?
I mean, if you give Phinks 1 year to prepare his swing, then maybe.
Sure, but it would probably kill him as well, as he wont be able to resist the power, a lot like deku from MHA
@Pixel Smile he runs out of aura
all that just to miss his punch on Meruem😂😂😂
Yeah but dont forget, bungee gum has both the properties of rubber AND gum...
@Σpsyth not really, that still won't be more powerful that Zero Hand of Netero. It would probably tickle Meruem tho, enough to make him laugh.
About Morel vs Pouf. You gotta remember that Morel was like this after having around 3 days without sleep I think it was. He even stated he was at less than half his peak performance. Morel's condition was not at a stage where he could have outwitted Pouf.
This video has a lot of moments like that where it just takes a scene from the show without any context. Also, there is a lot of misinformation in this video(for example, the databook wasn't written or even checked by the author of Hunter x Hunter).
5 hours of sleep, when against cheetu haha but that's never made any difference so nvm haha.
@@raygenluna he didn't sleep on that fight. He's just faking it so that he can plant his smoke and create his clone to fool Cheetu.
I think he said he was either at 20 or 30 percent during the night of the attack. What a G
@@crescentmoondriver4343 35*
Short answer - "NO"
Long answer - " They get negative difficulty stomp "
saske184 Please Rubber and Gum is the most powerful ability ever!
@@groudonfanatic9146 Nah just rubber and gum *before he's died fighting chrolo.
after he died once, Hisoka nen ability step up several folds.
Long answer: NOOOOOOOOO
@Haitian Xu which, as far as we know the phantom troupe does not posess, making your point moot.
@Haitian Xu I'll agree that the phantom troupe could get their hands on a rose, but I assumed we were talking about a nen fight here, but if we are including illumi, then he has not had access to Nanika since he joined the troupe, and she is therefore not a factor
I think there is enough room for speculation regarding how much of the phantom troupe's power is undisclosed so I think it's safe to say that although meruem base would single-handedly obliterate the phantom troupe, the royal guards may get defeated if all members of the spider fight at full strength
yes agreed the spiders at full strength defeated the royal guards... while they're sleeping. yeah they're winning. yeay the phantom troupe winning woo-hoo!
No, they can't in fact take on the royal guard lol. They don't have any feats to back this claim. Half the troop is dog water lol. Let's not forget kurapika clapped uvogon alone and kidnapped chrollo and he couldn't react. Royal guard speed blitz every time.
They barely stand a chance against one royal guard.
@@55thstreet66 on hindsight I think i was smoking reefers when i said that. But I'd also like to say that comparing kurapika and phantom troupe is just straight up unfair. He took down their physically strongest member like it was a video game tutorial. But he only did that because he was a spider. If he wasnt one, there would be another pair of red eyes for some rich guy to collect.
Even one guard on a bad day would annihilate the entire phantom troupe, it literally isn't even a debate, they are unbeatable even by the most experience humans, Netero probably can't take down Pitou, let alone Pouf and Youpi who have even stronger and diverse abilities
"autopilot causes immense strain and fatigue to Shalnarks body"
Shalnak: "my back will hurt me for a couple of days"
Well, he only used Autopilot for a few seconds in that fight.
@@Styles_Breez and if uses it in hour? He will be dead or he became vegetable.
@@emojest18 .....ok?
@@Styles_Breez this guy is high “he will be vegetable” 😂😂😂🤣🤣
@@tash-edits4219 you don't get it, they are saying that if Shalnark uses this ability for over an hour he would die, if only a few seconds would make his back hurt for a few days, and hour or even a minute would put him in a seriously bad state.
He's too fast though
I wouldn't be surprised if Meruem can speed blitz like half the troupe before they even react
(and even them it'd be a losing chase)
ye deffo, the chairman who had probably the fastest reaction time could barely react to meruem. I wouldnt be surprised if bo one in the phantom troupe could even see meruem
Feitan is about the same speed
@@xxtrez653 you think feitan is the same speed, even though he was just about able to tag a squdron leader lol
@@kababmichips1767 Lmao Feitan would get crushed
If feitan survives one blow by meruem them the trupe has a good chance of winning
I love how the only plausible strategy for the Phantom Troupe to defeat Meruem comes down to Chrollo giving Meruem the ol' stabby stab with his Ben's knife LMFAO
Its not even plausible since that knife would just break on contact with Meruem’s skin
Also, the poison from that Benz knife doesnt compare to the Roses
The knife strategy may not work, but there are plenty of other strategies that could actually work against Meruem, it just that people are way too caught up in their power level way of thinking to even bother to think that Meruem physical stats don't just counter any nen ability.
@@getreadyforthenextbattle549 Its not the point of soley power level but there is only so much you can do when an enemy overpowers you to such a degree, they can literally blitz and one shot you within .1 of a second
Its not the fact if Chrollo has a Hatsu that could deal with Meruem, but if he can do it
If Chrollo and Meruem faced off like Hisoka and Chrollo, Meruem could obliterate Chrollo’s head before he could summon or open his book.
Nothing shown in Hisoka vs Chrollo would make a dent on a Royal Guard, let alone, the King.
People think Feitan can kill Meruem or even have the speed to compete
Nanika and the DC are meant to show that the creatures there are not all gonna be on par with Meruem or a Royal Guard.
But they have such OP abilities that can kill more efficiently and larger numbers than the ants
Also, some you cannot fight against. Like, you dont fight a disease in combat, you survive it
The size scale of the DC also makes it dangerous, as Netero’s flashback showed creatures ranging from large elephants to bigger than mountain ranges.
The biggest creature shown in that flashback, given its sheer size and power, I doubt Meruem or Netero could defeat it in direct combat.
See what I mean?
The DC is about surviving, not winning and losing battles.
People think power levels and that every person on the DA is on par with Meruem, thats not how it works
Hellbell can likely be destroyed by Meruem but if it uses its ability on him, MEruem could easily die or be affected.
@@getreadyforthenextbattle549 like what? Tell me how the phantom troupe won't die within milliseconds.
@@aceclover758 The 'poison' from the rose is basically radiation and Meruem died of radiation poisoning , that explains how its contagious , the Benz knife is literally nothing compared to that
@5:40 And yet if Shalnark gets control of one Chimera Ant he practically makes the fight go from a complete loss to a potential win. This is why Power Scaling doesn't work in HxH, he's physically weak, could maybe at best be able to dodge one attack, but his powers aren't suited for one on one combat, in fact it isn't even combat it's infiltration and chaos. This is the type of thing Morel was referring to when it came to Nen battles, this is why some fights simply can't be classified, you could be weaker than your opponent in every conceivable way, to the point that they in a one on one should always win, yet you have an ability that may control someone, that may be equal to bridge the gap in intelligence and ability. A much better combatant would be Finks who isn't limited by aura usage and can simply just prepare an attack from ten days ago if he wanted to, and in that case him hitting is far more important.
Oh and yeah, Shalnark might not be able to 100% confirm a hit on his own, but considering someone like Chrollo using a nen-ability that might allow a clearer shot changes the entire game. Don't forget that Chrollo can straight up equal both the head of the Zoldyck house as well as its previous head at the same time, discerning their abilities and mental state, while also determining what is best in that scenario. Combine that level of thinking and analysis add on the very unique abilities of all Troupe Members and then consider that they are most likely hidden from the Chimera Ants, in fact the main issue is reaching them or picking them off, which even the original extermination force with Killua, Morel, Knov, Netero, Zeno, Gon, Meleoron, Knuckle, and Shoot had difficulty doing.
So all those support and infiltration abilities might seem unimportant working in unison is what makes the Troupe balanced and effective, it is the ability to outsmart and outplay your opponent that matters most, even when you look at the Gon example you see that the reason for his expertise is his ability to outplay his opponents. Two captain rank chimera ants attacking him with great levels of cooperation still couldn't beat him, not just because his Ten and Ken was so highly advanced and that his Aura was enough to mitigate the damage caused, but also because he was clever enough to anticipate their attacks and use a more varied move-set in order to corner them. Nen fights are almost always determined by whether the user knows what they're doing and if their overall ability counters their opponent. The reason why Netero ranks Ging so highly is because he's such a versatile and genius fighter, in which he can copy another's ability, decipher it, and apply it, there are so many things you can take away from the system as a whole that makes power-scaling utterly useless.
This is like asking if the whole akatsuki could beat kaguya
Gaminglink1000 very good comparison
That gap is far bigger but still
Joshua Guevara So is this gap lol. Meruem shits on the PT effortlessly.
Shaman Xeed Prove it.
Shaman Xeed hell no. Hisoka Isn’t Even Royal Guard Level.
*phantom troupe vs the akatsuki*
I like this one!!! Seth do it!!
Daeqwan Mitchell a stomp beyond belief for the akatsuki 😭
It would be more fair to send the teams instead of the WHOLE akatsuki because that's to easy
Deidara and sasori/hidan and kakazu vs the troupe sounds more fair
@Ray Ramone might its true he would solo due to his massive versatility and nagayo is a god damn genius dude to as a kid master all 5 chakra natures something that a handful of jonin struglle to master 2 to 3
Obito solos
Lol reads title and immediately answers "no" before even watching
Lol same XD
Same dude
Mhm no chance
Yep
I don't know who will win this one and great video man :]
HXH is way different from other anime in how its power scaling works, as it allows for a stronger emphasis on tactical play. Meruem is almost an exception, though. His sheer durability, speed, power, and intelligence is just so ridiculous that a lot of tactical plays just don't work on him and it comes down to sheer power. Though I'm an anime only so
Exactly.
Yeah kinda sucks because under any other conditions netero would of won the fight he literally had the best defense possible but sadly merum was a tank attacks dont phase him how do you beat something you can't damage
@@ChimpRevolution Meloreon + Knov could've killed Meruem and the RG by themselves if they teamed up. God's accomplice + Scream is either an instant kill or they're instantly transported into Knov's Nen dimension. From that point, they just wait until the Ants have starved to death or dehydrate. Another possibility is someone like Kurapika making a specific Nen constraint for the Ant King or the Royal Guards--since that constraint is so specific, the ability would be enhanced immensely. A similar ability to Knuckle's Hakoware or even just Hakoware would've been effective if they were able to buy a little more time. Anything is possible in this perfect power system.
although I love HXH, I still think Black Clover has better tactical fights. For me at least
@@ivancatubig8645 You watched Kurapika vs Uvogin? Netero vs Meruem? I've seen Black Clover fights but they don't compare to it when it comes to strategy. Though that's your own opinion.
"let his arm get decapitated."
Decapitate is specifically about the head. Nothing else.
That's true. He should of said dismemberment
Amputated
@@adamsgrace2012 Nope, Amputate is a medical (word) classification of surgically removing one's limbs.
@@MisakaMikoto1069 ok
Severed.
Change the title to “How bad would Meruem stomp the Phantom Troupe”
Tracy's Damn Child 😂🤣 agreed
Yeah, Meruem is on a whole other level.
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Enhanched Meruem's speed is even on par with the speed of light.
Real Sangpuya that’s wank
Seth the progroomer 🙏💀
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I finished HxH a week ago now I can’t stop watching vids abt it and my recommendations are full of HxH that just makes me want more of it😔
Yeah... Well hey it has a lot of rewatch value I've rewatched it many times
I started watch hxh when I was in grade school. Now I’m an adult. You don’t wanna know how many times I watch the anime (both) & read the manga. I’m waiting to watch the final season with my grandchildren
@@melovetolaugh6417 same bro also kite is GOAT
same but i’ve been at this point for months
Togashi : hiatus goes brrrrrr
I just want to see Gon as a full grown adult finally having his fight to death with Hikosa lol
@Joe Loe ^ Yep
@Joe Loe I don't know about that. If Hisoka is waiting for Gon to become stronger, then he must be confident enough that when they fight in the future, at the very least it wouldn't be an easy victory for either one of them. Do you honestly believe that Hisoka is waiting for Gon to train and grow more just to get easily killed by him? It would be very anticlimactic, especially considering Hisoka vs Gon is one of the most anticipated fights in the series, and Gon winning with ease wouldn't live up to the expectations. Besides, Hisoka himself has plenty of potential - he can grow and get stronger. So if and when they fight each other, Hisoka may be stronger compared to the current Hisoka.
@@kaisamurai9868 adult gon would one shot hisoka
@@mustafatantani3915 Wow, what an argument.
@@kaisamurai9868 he one shot pitou, he one shot hisoka
I just found your channel and dude having put some random stuff that I will never ask but now I need answers for them thank you so much
lowkey i think the reason knov got scared of the guards was because togashi realized his "4D apartment" ability would kinda be an instant win, so he had to write him out lmao
ohh, yeah I see.
It made no sense that he would lose his mind at the sight of their nen, and yet everyone else, including the fodder octopus and chameleon dude, were just perfectly fine with it. It felt like he really wasn't used to combat and was only chosen to come along for recon.
Yeah God's accomplice plus scream would one shot anyone who cant survive without a head.
No it's because knov has a weak spirit
@@blacksunshine9995 I'd disagree on his mental state compared to the chemeleon and octopus as they were humanoid creatures reborn from an ant queen and knov was only a regular person who has not sensed a power like pouf
"Maybe you think that Hisoka alone can put up a fight against him [Meruem]"
maybe you think a tooth pick can hold 2 Empire State buildings on each of its sides without breaking
Bar-El CH a big enough toothpick could
Dad Eee shut up
pat 904 lmfao
If the tooth pick is made of diamond maybe
Made me laugh so hard bro 😂😂🤣
i still wish we had an opportunity to see how strong Ging is against another top tier fighter. Watching him mop the floor with someone like Chrollo would just show off feats instantly
KingKru Ong, Ging is actually my favourite character which is why I’d like to see his feats since he’s stated to be a top 5 nen user 😂
Just imagine Ging in his youth challenging Netero and Netero just slaps him with guanyin, taking Ging down instantly. When Netero walks away, Ging just stood back up with Guanyin Bodhisattva behind him. Since he can learn any "punching" nen he got hit instantly
@@michaell1892 That would be hillarious, but he couldn't master the Bodhisattva just by taking a single punch from it because it's not a standard nen punching ability. It supposedly contains the properties of most, if not all, categories of nen.
I see Ging as tactician and does not fight head on. But yeah, would be lit as hell if he would fight some top tier hunter.
I feel like we aren't seeing Ging do anything for an important reason. I just hope that reason is actually good.
I've been so curious about the Phantom Troupe against Meruem.
Thank you so much for making this video! 😁
But seth the phantom troupe has [ T E A M W O R K ]
Lol
Teamwork tho
Madara vs TEAM WORK flashback...
And you know how team work always ends, just like in class :D
Madara vs Akatsuki flashbacks xD
What's so amazing about Hxh is about how their abilities can be used to counter even someone who is way stronger than they are, aura and physical abilities wise.
That is true up to a point. I believe that the reason for the Chimera Ant Arc, narratively speaking, is to show that there is a level of power that exists in the world that no amount of strategy or planning will allow you to overthrow.
@@martidavid1519 But that's only your interpretation of the arc. It was never explicitly stated that chimera ant arc somehow proved that no amount of strategy is able to counter a lot of power.
@@flickersense Meruem is the proof that no amount of strategy will overcome someone that is magnitudes above your own ability. Even Netero accepted that. The author himself stated that he made Meruem too strong to the point that he had no idea how he was gonna get rid of him. That's why Rose was necessary.
@@martidavid1519 Netero was using brute force on a very durable opponent, so it didn't work. But there're nen abilities, that don't rely on a big amount of aura or raw strength to defeat somebody. And Netero was the only person Meruem fought, except for the human guard in the palace. Meruem defeating Netero one time doesn't somehow prove that no nen ability or character has a chance of defeating him. Show me exactly where did the author state that he had no idea how to get rid of Meruem.
@@martidavid1519 if rose bomb is included in the strategy and planning then...checkmate from the start.
"Argued he didn't have him Nen ability by some". In that chapter he got off the phone with Chrollo after Chrollo asked him if he needed his ability back.
So shalnark obvs don't have his ability at the time ,right?
1. Netero couldn’t do it (and he was basically a superhuman who went to the Dark Continent to pick a fight)
2. 100 type Guanyin Bodhisattva did shit to the damn ant (and this ablility is faster than the speed of light)
3. Meruem is a god. They couldn’t touch him even in their dreams.
4. The royal guards wouldnt loose to them. Did you people even see the way Knov went mad when he simply saw/felt Pouf's aura? Or how Netero and Zeno were SHOCKED by Pitou's aura and abilities??
5. Chrollo's book is useless cause Meruem never had an established/developed ability, his tail was enough.
6. The Phantom Troupe are still humans, they're not invincible.
7. Meruem survived a deadly ass "Poor man's rose" explosion.
8. Their strongest member got eliminated by a rookie in the field of nen.
I watched the video knowing the answer was no! They couldn't beat Meruem.
*Seth uploads*
Me: *clicks faster than light*
just .takobi he should do a video on you light speed scaling
18:06 damn you right tho that really is the first time you ever hear Killua's footsteps in the series, I literally never noticed that before.
Yeah even when they were spying on the troupe his foot steps and movement didn’t show any sound or like dirt moving around it unlike gon
I was literally watching the phantom troupe arc when I got this notification.
With the way Kurapika had them shook, there's no way they could stand up to Meruem.
kurapika is a very obvious exception
Hisoka's betrayal costed them too much