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I heard eating pussy frequently actually makes your jaw area look more defined. Lol I guess playing a wind instrument or doing jaw exercise would do the same thing with this logic tho
Considering this list is so heavily stacked in favour of areas that people are more likely to see on a regular basis (neck, face, forearms), I'm surprised calves are as low as they are. I mean similarly to forearms, your calves are the lower body muscle that are going to be on display way more often than the bigger quads, hamstrings and glutes. Personally as someone who wears shorts all summer, I'd have them much higher. I also think well developed calves just look super impressive in general as it's an area that soooo many lifters tend to massively neglect, if not skip entirely. Seeing huge calves irl (on someone who isn't obese...) is just kinda rare The footballer (soccer player) Jack Grealish is a great example of this. He is basically skinny In every muscle group, like most athletes in a cardio-based sport. But his physique still gets a lot of attention because of his great calf development
@@jamesbedwell8793 i mean that's just not true tho is it...? Men's physique competitors are crazy jacked and yet a pair of knee length board shorts makes a lot those dudes' quads look invisible
@@ArsenTraining running around on a field is training your calves. maybe he meant he doesn't do calf raises with the specific intent of hypertrophy, but to act like his calves are "just like that" and he doesn't do anything that trains them is asinine. he wouldn't have calves like that if he had a desk job, although if he had a desk job and trained his calves maybe he would. calves have a genetic component to them like any other muscle group, doesn't mean you can't train them to be better
The only thing I would argue for this list is the upper chest. I would probably put it in the first tier, having a well developed upper chest not only looks very aesthetic when shirtless or with tank top but it totally changes the way t-shirts fit you. Also looks great when wearing v-neck or when you open a button or two while wearing a shirt.
If you have some development in the lower chest but none in the upper chest you can straight up look like you have man boobs. Easily the first obvious improvement to my physique when I started lifting was filling out my upper chest. Shirts fit better and when shirtless I actually looked leaner at the top while bulking because of the pec separation starting to really show.
Yes it goes understated how just like upper back a big upper chest shelf completely changes your appearance in clothes even from the front. When you can see it in a hoody you're doing something and it doesn't just look like man tits. Omar isuf pioneered the priority of training upper chest years ago for this aesthetic purpose. That's why whenever I'm not training to improve my bench strength i let it casually take a back seat to low incline chest training.
Yeah, it's interesting. Bodybuilders are definitely not "unfit," but if you train solely for aesthetics then you're missing out on a lot of different benefits.
Shoulders 100%. My cousin is pretty skinny (he doesn't even train) and he genetically gifted with big capped delts and rear shoulders for some unknown reasons. You can see the clear separation between the shoulders and arms, making the illusion of him being jacked.
If you showed that pic to me and I didn't know him and asked if he was natty, I would have said "potentially not" but, lighting and the pump make so much of a difference
The tibialis doesn't make you look jacked, but when I started heavy loading my tib bar (more than 25% body weight) I noticed my entire lower leg hypertrophy was boosted and I looked much better in shorts
I know NH mentioned it once, and I agree with him, that if you naturally have wider hips then training your obliques can help because it causes you to have more of a V-taper and less of the hourglass/love handle look.
Yeah, I think the fear of looking wide due to overdeveloped obliques is misguided. I don't have super wide hips, but I do hold fat in my love handles and thickening my obliques definitely helped my midsection look more powerful and less doughy. Also there is some research that suggest spot reduction might actually be a thing if you perform heavy cardio after putting a muscle group close to failure. I think Brendan Tietz had a video on it somewhat recently .
@@Skygooose Yeah menno henselman has been on this spot reduction science for a while. It's not as localized as people think, but it *can* happen. Obviously working out a muscle group will cause greater mobilization of fatty acids from local fat cells. However, if you don't do cardio after resistance training, re-esterization will likely occur and you'll get spot lipolysis but not spot reduction.
@@robertquinlan8063 I have good lats but I still have a kind of love handle look bc my waist is just that tiny. Was 27 inches when I got lean. My hips on the other hand are normal sized, 38 in.
FUN FACT: The Serratus Anterior is also known as the "Boxer's Muscle" because it's the main muscle used when throwing a punch, leading boxers to have it very developed.
I think you seriously mixed up some of the top two tiers, but all your content is always appreciated. I think your top tier really only works for a very specific look. For a more broad spectrum jacked look, the lats, rear delts and triceps are going to have a much larger impact than the neck, face, and forearms in my opinion. Not that they aren't important, but you will get more bang for your buck with those muscles. Commenting for the algo tho. Been following you since like 10k subscribers. Love your videos! You are easily one of my top content creators and have been responsible for pointing me in the direction of my other favorite fitness channels.
IMO calves deserve to be in the top tier if we're talking about "looking jacked without being semi-naked". In normal clothes the calves make a huge difference. Especially since forearms are in the top tier. Calves are like the forearms of the legs (very often visible (eg when wearing shorts)).
Top tier? Absolutely not. Maybe could argue for tier 3 at the highest. Large calves just don't make you look jacked. They just don't. Small calves might take away from your physique, but to think that the path to looking more muscular is through the lower legs is just not accurate IMO. Maybe it's because I've seen plenty of dyel guys here in China with 18-19" calves.
Yeah small calves really do detract from the physique overall, even if other areas are developed well. I’m a bit biased though as I was blessed by the calf gods.
Most important are the basic mewing principles or in other words: healthy/low bf percentage, breathing through your nose and never having your mouth hanging open or your tongue flopping around. Also going out of your way to consume harder food items can help a lot, this is another problem with junk food and popular food options like buns, they're too soft and are no challenge at all to your chewing muscles.
@@doublevision2943 mewing is distinct from facial muscle exercise. You could even say its the opposite of facial muscle exercise. Dr mew is all about taking the facial muscles out of chewing and swallowing. Its to be done with your tongue and jaw muscles. The cheek muscles or the buccinators often get used which is wrong and can even negatively impact facial aesthetics by causing the chubby cheeks look
@@cronikvialo5463 I could see that but I will say that avoiding adductors seriously increases your chance of hip pain over time if you are squatting etc... You don't have to max them but I wouldn't ignore them for aesthetics. Not worth the tradeoff.
@@cronikvialo5463 You think so? Theres a large group of people (notoriously UK bodybuilders + TBJP guys) who believe addutors are KEY for the look of big legs. I guess it makes them look more full from the front. Idk how I feel about it but i just do 1 set per week of them
Congrats on 100k, if anyone deserves this for working their ass off, it's you! Still reading RYG, enjoying it thoroughly. Wishing you all the best my man.
You forgot EYES. You train them by doing super sets of sun staring (4x12 seconds for hypertrophy) with bleach eye drops (1 drop heavier dose for strengthening) for a jacked wolf eye predator look.
Lit video as always. Just one hint for the next tier list: make the list fullscreen and the screen of you talking smaller, on the side. This way its easier to visualize the list while getting your commentary on the back, which is what really matters.
unironically shin muscles are a huge indicator of actual fitness. its one of those muscles you get from hiking and moving for hours not doing calf raises in a gym
@@kitchensinkmuses4947 interesting!! yeah so much athletic ability comes from the shins and calves. I feel the most springy, balanced, and athletic when im walking a lot
Upper bod: Any and all back muscles, traps and lats especially for frontal view. Side delts very important add width to frame, lats help fill in the frame. And lacking a chest not good so of course chest Lower bod: Glutes stand on their own you need them. Quads above hams because of the front view and overall surface area. Hams close behind to fill out the leg. Lacking calves slightly acceptable but should still be improved
Great video as usual. Only one I would disagree with is hamstrings. Meaty hamstrings hanging of the bone are aesthetic for a fuller looking leg, especially when sitting down.
the top tier list reminds me of alphadestiny's 'naturally enhanced' program/book, with the exception that he rated the hamstrings and glutes as top tier for looking yoked. he put the hamstrings even above the chest, saying that you can completely skip benching as long as you do overhead press, but never skip hamstring curls.
OHP still hits the upper chest a decent amount, especially since a lot of people when doing seated presses technically still have a bit of an incline going. But you kinda have to go out of your way to really train hamstrings, and I definitely see people who never train hamstrings and it makes their legs look a bit "weird" from the side/back imo.
Yup this is why I’ve spent so much time and effort in training my side delts. I had someone tell me “you could take that (my side delt) out and play baseball with it. That comment, alone, was confirmation that my hard work has paid off💯
@@naughtiousmaximus7853 incline Y-raises on the bench, lean away cable side laterals, I did upright rows for a short period of time, but I wouldn’t recommend those, as it puts the shoulder joint in a compromise position, but the first to exercises that I listed should get you there💪🏾💯
Ryan Humiston just made a video where he tested lots of exercices and positions on how much they stimulated the side delts, I think you might enjoy it a lot
@@Pablitopewpew I watched it but I try not to pay attention to Ryan tho. He’s very bro sciency and seems to intentionally mislead his followers just to get money
I see the neck muscle being talked about a lot all over the place. Am I the only one who doesn`t really care for it? Honestly I prefer to have a clear separation between my head and my traps, but it is true that a thick neck looks great on some people.
The Tibialis Anterior is not worth working for gains but I train it, along with my calves, to keep my ankles healthy. I have always been overweight so that has messed my ankles up.
8:00 Calisthenics guy here. This can be very very true. That's why I like to train legs at the gym, especially doing lifts like squats. I'm trying to get used to the form of deadlifts, too, and that would help a ton. Thanks, Geoff
I don't care whether you lift or not, everyone notices bulbous calves. They're just so rare they're the goat for me. I'm biased though because mine are terrible.
@@lilmanq7746 I disagree. They're both mostly genetic. Forearms are probably my strongest body part and I've never trained them directly. Always just had massive forearms. I train calves directly twice a week and they're still 1.5 inches smaller than my forearms.
0:42 I’ve decided last year to train my tibilias since it adds a good aesthetic, just look at John meadows tibilias it’s dam massive and completes the leg physique and compliments the calves really well
You hear that, Geoff? That's the sound of 100k subscribers very soon :D Great one, as always. Could you perhaps one day tell us about how your running times changed after you bulked up that significantely? - A video idea.
@@Candyapplebone While I do agree with the sentiment (I think his content should get to more folks, period)... You could consider the slow steady growth over time as a good sign that GVS isn't relying on flashy, clickbaity content. Just solid info. 💪
Damn, I never noticed that you don't have ads enabled. Really appreciate that man. Especially since you don't do sponsorships either. Gonna be picking up one of your your products soon. Any recommendations for a calisthenics guy? (I have a barbell, rings, weighted vest etc...). Also, you've become one of my favourite fitness UA-camrs faster than almost anyone else alongside Alpha Destiny and Revival Fitness.
I think the hamstrings deserve to be in tier 2 because without them i dont think you can be packed to the max. I've seen many a times dudes wearing 5 inch shorts when they have alright/decent quads, but have genuinely non existent hamstrings and theyre whole leg just looks comical. But i workout in a gym where its half wrestling, half weight training so i see a ton of wrestlers. And these guys since theyre in that hip hinge/staggered position all the time pushing and picking up other big burly men and absorbing force in that way their hamstrings are JACKED asfuck. They wear their singlets and the hamstring is just this big slab of meat that just hangs and it just gives your leg this 3D and wide look thats very necessary for good size in the legs Your criteria for this tier list was mostly based off of if the muscle increases the frame- and i can say surely that the hamstring is the one muscle that contributes the most to to the frame of the legs.
I would rate calves quite a lot higher, by 2 tiers, but it depends on genetics and frame, for some people it can look super impressive, like those on Steve Reeves. Big calves balance out the legs, and makes jeans fit better and if you have large feet it can help deframe the clown effect.
It would be interesting to do this again but in the context of looking aesthetically pleasing. Old school bodybuilders purposefully didn't grow certain muscles for various reasons.
Great video. I think the neck is the most underrated jacked muscle. Even when you look at male models who are skinny, most of them have thicker necks which makes you think that they are more jacked than they are!
6:50 Agree with ab training's efficacy in that bf range. Certain shirts I noticed my abs popped out even harder after switching to more optimal training & just getting bigger. Think I get a few looks, possibly. Will we see Geoff go hard on the abs too?
I think the anterior tibialis deserves to be just one, even half a tier higher. It's like the tricep to the bicep - not everyone cares about it as much, but contributes to the size of the limb.
coming from a longevity DPT background... please y'all train your Anterior Tibs in conjunction with your calves... super easy* and will help you out in the future.
Love the video. I definitely increase the lateral delt and trap volume when I’m working on decreasing body fat. Gotta disagree on the rhomboids though. They are 100% covered by the traps and are small muscles. Will not contribute to appearance much if at all. Should follow the same logic as the soleus being so low.
This would be very interesting indeed. If one trained the 10 areas in just the top 2 tiers, that would be 10 lifts (excluding face). That would be like 5 lifts a workout, twice a week. presently, I do bout 5 lifts a session, albeit more compound movements. wondering how I would then address more chest, bis, anterior delts, glutes, quads etc. I am not being negative just genuinely wondering how to incorporate highlighting these aspects without either overtraining or being in the gym far longer than I am presently. I am thinking grouping lifts addressing body parts relatively closer together would be something like: traps/neck/mid and rear delts and maybe teres (although makes more sense to train with lats). then another day all the arm lifts: tri, brach, forearms, plus lats (something like underhand pulldowns or chins) that will in addition work bi's, and rhomb. that would be twice a week or 4 days. not being a bro split guy, that is the time I want to spend in the gym. when would I address pecs, glutes, quads, hamstrings (legs)? etc. again, not trying to be negative here, but just wondering how one program emphasizing or highlighting the top 2 tiers and still hitting the lower tiers which entail or require more compound type lifts e.g. squat, presses, reads, etc.
Its all about being lean and having a thick neck and good facial aesthetics. I cant even explain the amount of women i get since i started leanmaxxing and neckmaxxing
You making those funny faces brought back a lot of childhood memories of my older brother teasing me with those ugly faces😂😂😂 Laughed out actually loudly
Bear crawls are such an underrated exercise in my opinion. They train the side delts and forearms to a huge degree, which are both in the top tier as well as having athletic carryover
@@travishowrish6805 I am a Kboges fan but I actually discovoured bear crawls from the Bioneer and started doing them once I saw the profound affect they had on a youtuber called xpmovement when he started doing them everyday.
@@frog6054 I progressed them by adding time. So just doing them for longer but I get that that's not ideal for everyone. No idea how you would load a bear carry but everyone probably hs time to do them for five minutes. I had the goal of eventually crawling for 25 minutes
Shared a house with a strongwoman/ contortionist. She said when she checked out guys' physiques, their triceps were top of the list. She said well developed triceps were much more important than big biceps. Slightly different issue to looking jacked but possibly useful information.
You went to great lengths to separate the soleus and gastroc, the rhomboids and traps, and the lats and teres major, but then you're just like "forearms... yup, just one muscle." Bro you could at LEAST distinguish between the brachioradialis and the actual forearm muscles
Fair enough I guess. Had to draw the line somewhere and that's where I decided to. There are like 600 muscles in total but also wanted more than just shoulders, legs, chest, arms and back!
As a woman, what catches my eye, just being honest, it's abs (and yes, obliques), lats, shoulders, traps (but within limits, come on). Maybe even forearms. Lower body I literally could not care less. The guy I have a crush on at the gym spends all his time on legs and I'm this close to saying something. (Just kidding, I would never.) Chest and biceps are pretty low on my list. If you want me to try not to stare at you at the gym do pull ups with your shirt off.
Great and accurate video. My hottest bodybuilding take for years was that most lifters overdevelop their chest. Pleasantly surprised to see you to put it mid tier. No sport really trains/benefits from it. Its the single muscle that makes bodybuilders look top heavy over everything else. Lifters love it because chest add mass so easily vs. most other groups but I think for looks you are better off keeping your chest middle of the pack vs. the rest of your physique. Bonus downside is that a massive chest (especially thickness) makes a lot of shirts hang funny unless you are tailoring a lot, you will look like you are dressed down more than not and makes it harder to show off your physique.
I 1,000% agree with this take and Ive said it for many years. One of the most overrated muscles for a good physique. Most people dont think the way we do. But yes Ive always had a good chest (especially lower) and its not the best look. Shirts can look weird if Im not careful. Makes the frame look smaller/narrower and less physically imposing. I agree w/ what you said in another comment about evolutionarily its not a functional muscle we use, you could say its not meant to be very developed for function or aesthetics. Id say arms are overrated too. Key is delts/upper back IMO. How would you train chest to hit it enough in a balanced way but not neglect it? I still train it with the same freq as everything else but I give it less volume. Still one of my best muscles
Sorry but saying no sport benefits from chest is an gross overstatement, think about horizontal adduction: - Tennis due to horizontal adduction for hitting the ball - Boxing, obviously - NFL, for blocking and shedding blocks (literally every position does this), and for QBs to throw at low angles. - Handball for shooting list likely goes on
@@LeoAr37 A strong chest is a good thing (im not saying skip chest day). Its just the amount of benefit you get vs. the added weight/volume of muscle is low. Outside of superheavy weights, basically no combat sport athlete (Boxers included) has a bodybuilder chest (and are often comparatively small). Those sports are weight class sports and the amount of weight you put on vs. the benefit is really low. NFL is probably the exception because its such an stop/go explosive sport that size becomes a much bigger advantage in general.
@@Latissimus65 Its not bad to have a big chest per se but you could just drop it to maintenance volumes and save your efforts for other muscles. Most people go into training with the conception that benching is a core aspect of lifting and never really move off the idea that its front/center/the main focus of upper body/push day training.
@@LeoAr37 All the sports you listed require force transfer from the ground up. It may look like the arm is adducting, but all the work is being done below the waist.
9:00 Agree on the importance of rear delt training. Seen a big diff in my shoulders since isolating them harder. They've help to really cap the delts. Idk if it's passive lateral delt stimulation but I think it's made my shoulders look better from the front too
When I started really focusing on rear delts with some amount of isolation I feel like my shoulder size definitely had a noticeable increase from all angles. I really only started in order to keep my shoulders healthy at first, but it was a nice side-effect.
@@Jcampz01 That sounds like the exact same experience as me. I got into rear delt training for injury prevention at first, but then I got some significant delt gains. Used to do band face-pulls, but dumbbell W raises & reverse flies on bench have been wayy better. I know Alex Leonidas said he doesn't do lateral raises but still saw good delt gains just focusing on the front & rear. I've also seen others say hitting rear delts more than 2 times/week has been a game changer for them. I still think u should work side delts for max gains tho. I see a lot of people saying to spam lateral raises, they might be onto something...
Now part 2 should be , which exercises optimally target all mentioned tier list :) Mainly mid and lower traps and upper back , all else i know .. but those i kinda let to develop on themselves while working back movements and i wish to target them more specifically
11:40 Traps are a bit odd for me. I rarely see any big natural with big (upper) traps. They don't have much representation so I'm not too sure about 'em. I've heard Alex Leonidas say neck is more important than traps. He relaxed on neck training & even his traps couldn't save him from looking less yoked. NH has good traps but I feel without packed shoulders, u just look narrower
I think the neck is a bit like the calves of the upperbody. Too small looks weird but I don't think massive/thick neck is all of that aesthetic either.
@@TheGreektrojan Yeah I agree with u on that. U should train the neck & calves so they're not small, but after that, they don't matter too much for ur physique. I know Natural Hypertrophy said he didn't care about getting his neck bigger cus it's already as wide as his jaw. I think that's really the cutoff point
Great and funny video! I’d make a few changes myself though. Calves would be above quads, and rear delts I think are absolutely more important than side delts. They give you the full round 3D appearance. Side delts won’t do that from the side (ironically) and the back. Also as much as I love me some lats, I don’t think I’d put them that high. They’re mostly invisible unless your purposefully flaring your arms lol. But having traps, neck and forearms in tier one was spot on!
Nah, big quads make your legs look big and strong even if the calves are relatively small but big calves don't really give you that strong look if your quads are small and weak. I'd say all the delts are quite much as important, if you have big rear delts and small side delts, your shoulders might not look quite as round, and if you have small rear delts and big side delts, they won't look wide enough from the side. Big lats will touch the shirt a bit when standing and they'll pop out when sitting. I'd say they're in the right tier, quite important but maybe not the most.
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@@moredreamsmorecreams happy new year!
@@GVS what do you think about the videos I made?
@@Champion8-00 nice work, keep it up!
@@GVS did you watch some? I’m new to UA-cam
Moral of the story: never skip face day.
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Gotta do your "face pulls" 😅
@Abdelrahman Ahmed , that could help, but the truth is if the bone structure of face is fuскеd no amount mewing will help.
I heard eating pussy frequently actually makes your jaw area look more defined. Lol I guess playing a wind instrument or doing jaw exercise would do the same thing with this logic tho
@@ultramegadavidbowie6314 true
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Considering this list is so heavily stacked in favour of areas that people are more likely to see on a regular basis (neck, face, forearms), I'm surprised calves are as low as they are. I mean similarly to forearms, your calves are the lower body muscle that are going to be on display way more often than the bigger quads, hamstrings and glutes. Personally as someone who wears shorts all summer, I'd have them much higher. I also think well developed calves just look super impressive in general as it's an area that soooo many lifters tend to massively neglect, if not skip entirely. Seeing huge calves irl (on someone who isn't obese...) is just kinda rare
The footballer (soccer player) Jack Grealish is a great example of this. He is basically skinny In every muscle group, like most athletes in a cardio-based sport. But his physique still gets a lot of attention because of his great calf development
Jack said it himself that he doesn't train them and it's genetics.
if your quads aren't visible year round you need bigger quads.
@@jamesbedwell8793 i mean that's just not true tho is it...? Men's physique competitors are crazy jacked and yet a pair of knee length board shorts makes a lot those dudes' quads look invisible
@@ArsenTraining running around on a field is training your calves. maybe he meant he doesn't do calf raises with the specific intent of hypertrophy, but to act like his calves are "just like that" and he doesn't do anything that trains them is asinine. he wouldn't have calves like that if he had a desk job, although if he had a desk job and trained his calves maybe he would. calves have a genetic component to them like any other muscle group, doesn't mean you can't train them to be better
@@cx2900 Lots of footballers run around on a field and have small calves. Genetics are exactly the difference between him and them.
Top 5
Forearms, calves, shoulders, arms, chest. In that order.
Yes! Except calves, because I don’t have em😤😆
The only thing I would argue for this list is the upper chest. I would probably put it in the first tier, having a well developed upper chest not only looks very aesthetic when shirtless or with tank top but it totally changes the way t-shirts fit you.
Also looks great when wearing v-neck or when you open a button or two while wearing a shirt.
If you have some development in the lower chest but none in the upper chest you can straight up look like you have man boobs. Easily the first obvious improvement to my physique when I started lifting was filling out my upper chest. Shirts fit better and when shirtless I actually looked leaner at the top while bulking because of the pec separation starting to really show.
that's what I thought years ago until everyone i met bascially agreed with Geoff on the face and neck being FAR more important
The chest for sure. You can buy a 10 dollar shirt and it ends up looking great
Yes it goes understated how just like upper back a big upper chest shelf completely changes your appearance in clothes even from the front. When you can see it in a hoody you're doing something and it doesn't just look like man tits. Omar isuf pioneered the priority of training upper chest years ago for this aesthetic purpose. That's why whenever I'm not training to improve my bench strength i let it casually take a back seat to low incline chest training.
@@keithcheng4671both
I love how some of the most important muscles for health and movement are the least important for aesthetics
Yeah, it's interesting. Bodybuilders are definitely not "unfit," but if you train solely for aesthetics then you're missing out on a lot of different benefits.
@@soap_bubbles yup. But it's funny how side delts make you look super jacked but don't really...do much? But strong lungs you won't see until they die
Catch me slipping gastrointestinal muscles bro
Shoulders 100%. My cousin is pretty skinny (he doesn't even train) and he genetically gifted with big capped delts and rear shoulders for some unknown reasons. You can see the clear separation between the shoulders and arms, making the illusion of him being jacked.
No v taper not jacked. That's the bodypart that tells the WORLD you lift.
You have always looked jacked, but 0:08 is just on another level.
He looks like a monster lmfaooo
If you showed that pic to me and I didn't know him and asked if he was natty, I would have said "potentially not" but, lighting and the pump make so much of a difference
The tibialis doesn't make you look jacked, but when I started heavy loading my tib bar (more than 25% body weight) I noticed my entire lower leg hypertrophy was boosted and I looked much better in shorts
I’m obsessed with my tib bar.
I have massive knees and always hated the look of my legs, I too found that growing my tibialis anterior made my legs look way better
Yea, tib is deeply impactful for overall leg health
@@Huskasin my main theory is that it has helped increase my ROM in my ankle, which has lead to better calve hypertrophy
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I know NH mentioned it once, and I agree with him, that if you naturally have wider hips then training your obliques can help because it causes you to have more of a V-taper and less of the hourglass/love handle look.
Yeah, I think the fear of looking wide due to overdeveloped obliques is misguided. I don't have super wide hips, but I do hold fat in my love handles and thickening my obliques definitely helped my midsection look more powerful and less doughy.
Also there is some research that suggest spot reduction might actually be a thing if you perform heavy cardio after putting a muscle group close to failure. I think Brendan Tietz had a video on it somewhat recently .
@@Skygooose Yeah menno henselman has been on this spot reduction science for a while. It's not as localized as people think, but it *can* happen. Obviously working out a muscle group will cause greater mobilization of fatty acids from local fat cells. However, if you don't do cardio after resistance training, re-esterization will likely occur and you'll get spot lipolysis but not spot reduction.
Perhaps but also just focusing on lat development would help too. Not just upper but lower lats as well.
@@robertquinlan8063 I have good lats but I still have a kind of love handle look bc my waist is just that tiny. Was 27 inches when I got lean. My hips on the other hand are normal sized, 38 in.
@@jeremiahromagnoli7389 How are your legs? Specifically the outer quads in my opinion would help change that look to a more streamlined physique.
FUN FACT: The Serratus Anterior is also known as the "Boxer's Muscle" because it's the main muscle used when throwing a punch, leading boxers to have it very developed.
Definitely not the "main" muscle used.
Shoulders,Triceps and Chest are the main muscles then the Serratus right after.
@@MusicFan..... You're right. Meant to say "one of the main muscles used"
@@1notdeadyet1 Yeah
Nope, obliques
I think you seriously mixed up some of the top two tiers, but all your content is always appreciated. I think your top tier really only works for a very specific look. For a more broad spectrum jacked look, the lats, rear delts and triceps are going to have a much larger impact than the neck, face, and forearms in my opinion. Not that they aren't important, but you will get more bang for your buck with those muscles. Commenting for the algo tho. Been following you since like 10k subscribers. Love your videos! You are easily one of my top content creators and have been responsible for pointing me in the direction of my other favorite fitness channels.
Thank you GVS. I will now train the Tier 1 muscles and nothing else. Monster physique here I come!
Revolting but glorious ork look 👌
“GVS”? Cringe
@@diogenesfromsinope6212 why is cringe, it's his name lol
IMO calves deserve to be in the top tier if we're talking about "looking jacked without being semi-naked". In normal clothes the calves make a huge difference. Especially since forearms are in the top tier. Calves are like the forearms of the legs (very often visible (eg when wearing shorts)).
No
Wrong. I've seen a father looking guy who is sloppy but have huge calves.
you're absolutely right, i was about to comment this
Top tier? Absolutely not. Maybe could argue for tier 3 at the highest. Large calves just don't make you look jacked. They just don't.
Small calves might take away from your physique, but to think that the path to looking more muscular is through the lower legs is just not accurate IMO. Maybe it's because I've seen plenty of dyel guys here in China with 18-19" calves.
Yeah small calves really do detract from the physique overall, even if other areas are developed well.
I’m a bit biased though as I was blessed by the calf gods.
It's time for me to set aside training my legs so that I can dedicate that time to my face. Thanks for letting me know where my priorities should be.
"Train your face" I think we are gonna need a video on that one lol
Most important are the basic mewing principles or in other words: healthy/low bf percentage, breathing through your nose and never having your mouth hanging open or your tongue flopping around. Also going out of your way to consume harder food items can help a lot, this is another problem with junk food and popular food options like buns, they're too soft and are no challenge at all to your chewing muscles.
@@doublevision2943 mewing is distinct from facial muscle exercise. You could even say its the opposite of facial muscle exercise. Dr mew is all about taking the facial muscles out of chewing and swallowing. Its to be done with your tongue and jaw muscles. The cheek muscles or the buccinators often get used which is wrong and can even negatively impact facial aesthetics by causing the chubby cheeks look
3:16 Zane was a great example of underdeveloped adductor with good quad development. I recall he said he trained specifically for that look.
Imo adductors and obliques are the worst muscles for bodybuilding.
@@cronikvialo5463 I could see that but I will say that avoiding adductors seriously increases your chance of hip pain over time if you are squatting etc... You don't have to max them but I wouldn't ignore them for aesthetics. Not worth the tradeoff.
@@user-yd6wp7fj3u strongly agree
@@cronikvialo5463 You think so? Theres a large group of people (notoriously UK bodybuilders + TBJP guys) who believe addutors are KEY for the look of big legs. I guess it makes them look more full from the front. Idk how I feel about it but i just do 1 set per week of them
@Nero He looks better than 99% of mass monsters and his legs are proportional to his upper body for once.
Congrats on 100k, if anyone deserves this for working their ass off, it's you! Still reading RYG, enjoying it thoroughly. Wishing you all the best my man.
Oh..really digging the new outro music.
You forgot EYES. You train them by doing super sets of sun staring (4x12 seconds for hypertrophy) with bleach eye drops (1 drop heavier dose for strengthening) for a jacked wolf eye predator look.
That would definitely get me sued 😂😂😂
Lit video as always. Just one hint for the next tier list: make the list fullscreen and the screen of you talking smaller, on the side. This way its easier to visualize the list while getting your commentary on the back, which is what really matters.
Congrats on the 100k my man! Well deserved.
Geoff making awesome content as usual.
unironically shin muscles are a huge indicator of actual fitness. its one of those muscles you get from hiking and moving for hours not doing calf raises in a gym
yeah, when my main sports were dance adjacent my shins were massive. Now I train legs seperately they are tiny!
@@kitchensinkmuses4947 interesting!! yeah so much athletic ability comes from the shins and calves. I feel the most springy, balanced, and athletic when im walking a lot
The comical aspect of this channel is goated😅
Never seen a channel who gets 1/5 like to view ratio. Always great to see viewer appreciation match the content
Honestly thanks to you, your books AND your wisdom I can see changes in my physique after months of my bodybuilding journey. Highly recommended 👏🏽
Upper bod: Any and all back muscles, traps and lats especially for frontal view. Side delts very important add width to frame, lats help fill in the frame. And lacking a chest not good so of course chest
Lower bod: Glutes stand on their own you need them. Quads above hams because of the front view and overall surface area. Hams close behind to fill out the leg. Lacking calves slightly acceptable but should still be improved
Great video as usual. Only one I would disagree with is hamstrings. Meaty hamstrings hanging of the bone are aesthetic for a fuller looking leg, especially when sitting down.
Congrats on 100k man. Starting off 2023 with a bang.
the top tier list reminds me of alphadestiny's 'naturally enhanced' program/book, with the exception that he rated the hamstrings and glutes as top tier for looking yoked. he put the hamstrings even above the chest, saying that you can completely skip benching as long as you do overhead press, but never skip hamstring curls.
OHP still hits the upper chest a decent amount, especially since a lot of people when doing seated presses technically still have a bit of an incline going. But you kinda have to go out of your way to really train hamstrings, and I definitely see people who never train hamstrings and it makes their legs look a bit "weird" from the side/back imo.
Yup this is why I’ve spent so much time and effort in training my side delts. I had someone tell me “you could take that (my side delt) out and play baseball with it. That comment, alone, was confirmation that my hard work has paid off💯
What did you do for side delts?
@@naughtiousmaximus7853 incline Y-raises on the bench, lean away cable side laterals, I did upright rows for a short period of time, but I wouldn’t recommend those, as it puts the shoulder joint in a compromise position, but the first to exercises that I listed should get you there💪🏾💯
@@blizzyblaze97 Thank you 💯
Ryan Humiston just made a video where he tested lots of exercices and positions on how much they stimulated the side delts, I think you might enjoy it a lot
@@Pablitopewpew I watched it but I try not to pay attention to Ryan tho. He’s very bro sciency and seems to intentionally mislead his followers just to get money
I see the neck muscle being talked about a lot all over the place. Am I the only one who doesn`t really care for it? Honestly I prefer to have a clear separation between my head and my traps, but it is true that a thick neck looks great on some people.
The Tibialis Anterior is not worth working for gains but I train it, along with my calves, to keep my ankles healthy. I have always been overweight so that has messed my ankles up.
8:00 Calisthenics guy here. This can be very very true. That's why I like to train legs at the gym, especially doing lifts like squats. I'm trying to get used to the form of deadlifts, too, and that would help a ton. Thanks, Geoff
You can train spinal erectors using a planche or a reverse lever but you have to be insanely advanced at calisthenics.
The jacked face part 😂 should’ve used squidward vs handsome squidward.
I don't care whether you lift or not, everyone notices bulbous calves. They're just so rare they're the goat for me. I'm biased though because mine are terrible.
Forearms is a close second imo
@@J-W_Grimbeek forearms are the most underrated muscle group in the human body for sure. I'd say only 1% of lifters train them in isolation.
Not if you live in Asia where big calves are common
It’s harder to get big forearms than big calves
@@lilmanq7746 I disagree. They're both mostly genetic. Forearms are probably my strongest body part and I've never trained them directly. Always just had massive forearms. I train calves directly twice a week and they're still 1.5 inches smaller than my forearms.
Chest in tier 3 is crazy. It and the shoulders are what really make your upper body look incredible (especially in a T-shirt)
0:42 I’ve decided last year to train my tibilias since it adds a good aesthetic, just look at John meadows tibilias it’s dam massive and completes the leg physique and compliments the calves really well
I don't think it makes you look jacked, but I do think it is one of the most underdeveloped and will help lifelong athletic ability
2023 is the year of the 'yoke' for me. Smashing lats, traps/neck, triceps and forearms (+brachialis/brachioradialis).
You hear that, Geoff? That's the sound of 100k subscribers very soon :D Great one, as always. Could you perhaps one day tell us about how your running times changed after you bulked up that significantely? - A video idea.
Can’t believe he doesn’t have that many yet
@@Candyapplebone While I do agree with the sentiment (I think his content should get to more folks, period)... You could consider the slow steady growth over time as a good sign that GVS isn't relying on flashy, clickbaity content. Just solid info. 💪
Congrats on 100k! 🥳
Most underrated fitness channel out there
Damn, I never noticed that you don't have ads enabled. Really appreciate that man. Especially since you don't do sponsorships either.
Gonna be picking up one of your your products soon. Any recommendations for a calisthenics guy? (I have a barbell, rings, weighted vest etc...).
Also, you've become one of my favourite fitness UA-camrs faster than almost anyone else alongside Alpha Destiny and Revival Fitness.
Appreciate that! I think you'll like the rings book a lot.
Just got it!
He doesn't do sponsorships??!!! Did you actually watch the video?
@@Vampire__Squid I have never done any sponsorships.
@@GVS 7:06 "By the way this video is sponsored by me" Yes my comment was a joke
This was actually a super solid video. The first teir list that almost sounds not overly opinionated.
I think the hamstrings deserve to be in tier 2 because without them i dont think you can be packed to the max. I've seen many a times dudes wearing 5 inch shorts when they have alright/decent quads, but have genuinely non existent hamstrings and theyre whole leg just looks comical. But i workout in a gym where its half wrestling, half weight training so i see a ton of wrestlers. And these guys since theyre in that hip hinge/staggered position all the time pushing and picking up other big burly men and absorbing force in that way their hamstrings are JACKED asfuck. They wear their singlets and the hamstring is just this big slab of meat that just hangs and it just gives your leg this 3D and wide look thats very necessary for good size in the legs
Your criteria for this tier list was mostly based off of if the muscle increases the frame- and i can say surely that the hamstring is the one muscle that contributes the most to to the frame of the legs.
Glad you dropped the music GvS😂
I would rate calves quite a lot higher, by 2 tiers, but it depends on genetics and frame, for some people it can look super impressive, like those on Steve Reeves.
Big calves balance out the legs, and makes jeans fit better and if you have large feet it can help deframe the clown effect.
Geoffrey. Thanks for the content and lack of ads and sponsors is appreciated. I’ll look out for your book.
Geoffrey truly a Marketing genius, dropping a tier list for all the new years starters
Solid video as usual Geoff. Also loving the info from your book!
Glad you're enjoying it and I appreciate the support!
Why are you using dumbbell for neck curls instead of kettlebell?? Its just stupid.
Aren't any heavy enough kettlebells.
@@GVS fair enough
The melted tallow line really got me, another great video
This tier list is top tier.
For a moment I thought you weren’t gonna include forearms, pleasantly surprised you put them in the very top tier
It would be interesting to do this again but in the context of looking aesthetically pleasing. Old school bodybuilders purposefully didn't grow certain muscles for various reasons.
Like?
@@lucas-sp2pmraps and obliques for silver era bodybuilders like Steve reeves
Tier 1 face exercise - death metal vocals (not kidding lmao).
Traps and forearms in S tier 🤝
Goated muscles
Quasimodo physique 🤝😤
This video directly aligns with my new year resolution lol thanks Geoff
You should tier list exercises for a specific muscle group
the triceps part :
"people know bro, people know..." xD
Great video. I think the neck is the most underrated jacked muscle. Even when you look at male models who are skinny, most of them have thicker necks which makes you think that they are more jacked than they are!
I'd put triceps at S tier. All men look at other men's arms, and the triceps are 2/3 of your arm width.
I will now bench using my face
congrats on 100k your occasional jokes are hilarious
This madman did it!!
Will you do a tier list for the flip side of this? That is muscle groups with the most significant functional utility for usable strength.
@Geoff, congrats on the 100K!!!!! Wow, what a journey. I remember the 30K Q&A as if it was yesterday. Great job man! Thank you.
I get what you're saying about the tibialis, but they give your calves a more full look
The Soleus plays a big part in calf development, since it is below the gastronemius, it makes te illusion that it's bigger
Sure brachialis makes bigger difference than biceps I noticed it when switched from chins to neutral
Great vid!
We need a Geoff soundboard I swear the noises you make in these videos always has me dying 🤣
6:50 Agree with ab training's efficacy in that bf range. Certain shirts I noticed my abs popped out even harder after switching to more optimal training & just getting bigger. Think I get a few looks, possibly.
Will we see Geoff go hard on the abs too?
But but Geoff said ab training is overrated
My goal physique is lats like a flying squirrel
My barbell after Geoffrey told me glutes are important: 🤰
100K subscribers
Congratulations !
Thanks!
A face exercises video would be really interesting
I think the anterior tibialis deserves to be just one, even half a tier higher. It's like the tricep to the bicep - not everyone cares about it as much, but contributes to the size of the limb.
Would absolutely love to see a face training video no sarcasm
Bite a plate and shake your head like a dog
coming from a longevity DPT background... please y'all train your Anterior Tibs in conjunction with your calves... super easy* and will help you out in the future.
Love the video. I definitely increase the lateral delt and trap volume when I’m working on decreasing body fat.
Gotta disagree on the rhomboids though. They are 100% covered by the traps and are small muscles. Will not contribute to appearance much if at all. Should follow the same logic as the soleus being so low.
Definitely liking the music at the end rather than throughout 👍🏻👍🏻 keep on keepin on brother
Next trend in UA-cam fitness... "I Trained Geoffrey Schofield's 'No' tier list for 30 days"
This would be very interesting indeed. If one trained the 10 areas in just the top 2 tiers, that would be 10 lifts (excluding face). That would be like 5 lifts a workout, twice a week. presently, I do bout 5 lifts a session, albeit more compound movements. wondering how I would then address more chest, bis, anterior delts, glutes, quads etc. I am not being negative just genuinely wondering how to incorporate highlighting these aspects without either overtraining or being in the gym far longer than I am presently. I am thinking grouping lifts addressing body parts relatively closer together would be something like: traps/neck/mid and rear delts and maybe teres (although makes more sense to train with lats). then another day all the arm lifts: tri, brach, forearms, plus lats (something like underhand pulldowns or chins) that will in addition work bi's, and rhomb. that would be twice a week or 4 days. not being a bro split guy, that is the time I want to spend in the gym. when would I address pecs, glutes, quads, hamstrings (legs)? etc. again, not trying to be negative here, but just wondering how one program emphasizing or highlighting the top 2 tiers and still hitting the lower tiers which entail or require more compound type lifts e.g. squat, presses, reads, etc.
Its all about being lean and having a thick neck and good facial aesthetics. I cant even explain the amount of women i get since i started leanmaxxing and neckmaxxing
Training your neck actually impacted your facial aesthetics?
Geoff do you have a video on neck training?
Not as of yet.
You making those funny faces brought back a lot of childhood memories of my older brother teasing me with those ugly faces😂😂😂
Laughed out actually loudly
Bear crawls are such an underrated exercise in my opinion. They train the side delts and forearms to a huge degree, which are both in the top tier as well as having athletic carryover
found the kboges fan
@@travishowrish6805 I am a Kboges fan but I actually discovoured bear crawls from the Bioneer and started doing them once I saw the profound affect they had on a youtuber called xpmovement when he started doing them everyday.
@@nicorepetto5781 they are awesome man agreed
How to progress them?
@@frog6054 I progressed them by adding time. So just doing them for longer but I get that that's not ideal for everyone. No idea how you would load a bear carry but everyone probably hs time to do them for five minutes. I had the goal of eventually crawling for 25 minutes
Shared a house with a strongwoman/ contortionist. She said when she checked out guys' physiques, their triceps were top of the list. She said well developed triceps were much more important than big biceps. Slightly different issue to looking jacked but possibly useful information.
You went to great lengths to separate the soleus and gastroc, the rhomboids and traps, and the lats and teres major, but then you're just like "forearms... yup, just one muscle." Bro you could at LEAST distinguish between the brachioradialis and the actual forearm muscles
Fair enough I guess. Had to draw the line somewhere and that's where I decided to. There are like 600 muscles in total but also wanted more than just shoulders, legs, chest, arms and back!
As a woman, what catches my eye, just being honest, it's abs (and yes, obliques), lats, shoulders, traps (but within limits, come on). Maybe even forearms. Lower body I literally could not care less. The guy I have a crush on at the gym spends all his time on legs and I'm this close to saying something. (Just kidding, I would never.) Chest and biceps are pretty low on my list. If you want me to try not to stare at you at the gym do pull ups with your shirt off.
Neck, traps. Just guessing lol
Edit: Dang I was right 😲
3:19 my boy going brazy on that abductor machine lol
that silent yelling
Great and accurate video.
My hottest bodybuilding take for years was that most lifters overdevelop their chest. Pleasantly surprised to see you to put it mid tier. No sport really trains/benefits from it. Its the single muscle that makes bodybuilders look top heavy over everything else. Lifters love it because chest add mass so easily vs. most other groups but I think for looks you are better off keeping your chest middle of the pack vs. the rest of your physique. Bonus downside is that a massive chest (especially thickness) makes a lot of shirts hang funny unless you are tailoring a lot, you will look like you are dressed down more than not and makes it harder to show off your physique.
I 1,000% agree with this take and Ive said it for many years. One of the most overrated muscles for a good physique. Most people dont think the way we do. But yes Ive always had a good chest (especially lower) and its not the best look. Shirts can look weird if Im not careful. Makes the frame look smaller/narrower and less physically imposing. I agree w/ what you said in another comment about evolutionarily its not a functional muscle we use, you could say its not meant to be very developed for function or aesthetics. Id say arms are overrated too. Key is delts/upper back IMO. How would you train chest to hit it enough in a balanced way but not neglect it? I still train it with the same freq as everything else but I give it less volume. Still one of my best muscles
Sorry but saying no sport benefits from chest is an gross overstatement, think about horizontal adduction:
- Tennis due to horizontal adduction for hitting the ball
- Boxing, obviously
- NFL, for blocking and shedding blocks (literally every position does this), and for QBs to throw at low angles.
- Handball for shooting
list likely goes on
@@LeoAr37 A strong chest is a good thing (im not saying skip chest day). Its just the amount of benefit you get vs. the added weight/volume of muscle is low. Outside of superheavy weights, basically no combat sport athlete (Boxers included) has a bodybuilder chest (and are often comparatively small). Those sports are weight class sports and the amount of weight you put on vs. the benefit is really low. NFL is probably the exception because its such an stop/go explosive sport that size becomes a much bigger advantage in general.
@@Latissimus65 Its not bad to have a big chest per se but you could just drop it to maintenance volumes and save your efforts for other muscles. Most people go into training with the conception that benching is a core aspect of lifting and never really move off the idea that its front/center/the main focus of upper body/push day training.
@@LeoAr37 All the sports you listed require force transfer from the ground up. It may look like the arm is adducting, but all the work is being done below the waist.
Traps are my strongest point luckily ;)
Edit: Trap bar deadlifts will work the middle traps a lot depending on your stance.
We definitely need face trainings
Genetics. You can get lean but some people jus are born with the right features to look shredded
9:00 Agree on the importance of rear delt training. Seen a big diff in my shoulders since isolating them harder. They've help to really cap the delts.
Idk if it's passive lateral delt stimulation but I think it's made my shoulders look better from the front too
When I started really focusing on rear delts with some amount of isolation I feel like my shoulder size definitely had a noticeable increase from all angles. I really only started in order to keep my shoulders healthy at first, but it was a nice side-effect.
@@Jcampz01 That sounds like the exact same experience as me. I got into rear delt training for injury prevention at first, but then I got some significant delt gains. Used to do band face-pulls, but dumbbell W raises & reverse flies on bench have been wayy better.
I know Alex Leonidas said he doesn't do lateral raises but still saw good delt gains just focusing on the front & rear. I've also seen others say hitting rear delts more than 2 times/week has been a game changer for them. I still think u should work side delts for max gains tho. I see a lot of people saying to spam lateral raises, they might be onto something...
Now part 2 should be , which exercises optimally target all mentioned tier list :) Mainly mid and lower traps and upper back , all else i know .. but those i kinda let to develop on themselves while working back movements and i wish to target them more specifically
11:40 Traps are a bit odd for me. I rarely see any big natural with big (upper) traps. They don't have much representation so I'm not too sure about 'em.
I've heard Alex Leonidas say neck is more important than traps. He relaxed on neck training & even his traps couldn't save him from looking less yoked. NH has good traps but I feel without packed shoulders, u just look narrower
I think the neck is a bit like the calves of the upperbody. Too small looks weird but I don't think massive/thick neck is all of that aesthetic either.
@@TheGreektrojan Yeah I agree with u on that.
U should train the neck & calves so they're not small, but after that, they don't matter too much for ur physique.
I know Natural Hypertrophy said he didn't care about getting his neck bigger cus it's already as wide as his jaw. I think that's really the cutoff point
Great point about casually flexing the triceps. I do it often. Someone I get busted tho by someone asking: “Did you just flex?” 😂
Was not expecting a Scomo jumpscare on a Geoffrey Verity Schofield video, lol
Jaw must be the most important because I see people who work jaw everyday at the gym.
“I understood that reference”
Great and funny video! I’d make a few changes myself though. Calves would be above quads, and rear delts I think are absolutely more important than side delts. They give you the full round 3D appearance. Side delts won’t do that from the side (ironically) and the back.
Also as much as I love me some lats, I don’t think I’d put them that high. They’re mostly invisible unless your purposefully flaring your arms lol. But having traps, neck and forearms in tier one was spot on!
Other possible tier one muscles (honorable mentions): glutes, triceps long head
Nah, big quads make your legs look big and strong even if the calves are relatively small but big calves don't really give you that strong look if your quads are small and weak. I'd say all the delts are quite much as important, if you have big rear delts and small side delts, your shoulders might not look quite as round, and if you have small rear delts and big side delts, they won't look wide enough from the side. Big lats will touch the shirt a bit when standing and they'll pop out when sitting. I'd say they're in the right tier, quite important but maybe not the most.