PF: WOTR - FEY LORD Build: 60+ DC CROWD CONTROL with STUNLOCK + INSTAKILLS even on Unfair!
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- Learn how to build a very powerful ENCHANTMENT focused AZATA Caster with the ULTIMATE Crowd Control abilities! You'll be able to make even Demons & Demon Lords laugh to their deaths and become stunlocked with your uber 60+ DC spells!
Timestamps down below:
Chapters
00:00 Build Overview: DC 60+ with STUNLOCK CCs & Death Spells!
01:25 Sorcerer Archetypes Explained
02:57 HIGHEST DC Archetype
04:00 Character Creation
05:27 Level 1 Feats, Bloodline & Starter Spells
07:20 Level 2-5
09:08 Level 6-9
10:33 1st Loremaster & BEST MID GAME ENCHANTMENT Spell
13:25 Level 11 Specialization Feat
16:15 Level 12-14
18:39 Level 15-17
21:31 The ULTIMATE Enchantment Spell & Level 18-20
24:05 Mythic Progression 1-4
26:24 Mythic 5-10
29:23 Fey Lord GEAR
32:29 Weapons & Metamagic Rods
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You rock! - Ігри
For more DC power, feel free to equip the Ring of Chaotic Fascination (+2 DC) & the Bracers of Mindbreak (+2), for a big +4 boost total over what I had! That's definitely close to 70 DC WITHOUT Expanded Arsenal!
Also, don't forget there are MANY ways to debuff the enemy saves, such as irresistible always in effect auras, I cover them all on my Debuffing Guide here:
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This was my first playthrogh build but back then was kind broken becouse the laugh bugged, it used to aggro the whole map etc.
Expanded Arsenal is broke now? i am in 1.4.17 and it doesnt work :|
I’ve been playing wotr for about a year now and every single time I try to look up a gameplay guide it’s by this person. I swear they’re carrying the whole playerbase at this point. A true hero.
Thank you! Wrath is such a fun game with so many different options that I'm glad to keep it going!
If I’m playing wrath I know I’ll have 6 tabs open on my other monitor with his videos.
@@cRPGBro I hope paizo filled ur wallet with some kind of sponsoreship
Written Version, Please Comment if I made Mistakes. Sometimes Bro didn't mention Spells so Assume them as Any Spell. For Azata Spells Check his other Video
Fey Lord
Race: Human or Elf > Dual Heritage (Warning Feat Starved Build)
Background: Street Urchin > Pickpocket
Skills: Persuasion, Use Magic Device, Knowledge (World)
Deity: Cayden Cailean or any Azata (Azata needs to be CG, CN, NG or TN)
Alignment: Chaotic Good or See Deity (CG is great because you can get bestow Grace buffed for Saves)
Stats:
( ) = Optional Stat Spread
STR: 12 (Increase to 14)
DEX: 14
CON: 14
INT: 10 (Dump to 09)
WIS: 10 (Dump to 08)
CHA: 19
Sorcerer > Overwhelming Mage
(Spell Choice)
First option when [or] is used is Bros Pick in the Video
Level:
01: Spell Focus: Enchantment, Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment, Fey Bloodline (Grease, Hypnotism)
02:
03: Spell Penetration (Enlarge Person)
04: +CHA (Glitterdust)
05: Greater Spell Penetration (Shield, Mirror Image or Blur)
06: (Haste)
07: Metamagic (Heighten) (True Strike, Sense Vitals, Displacement or Heroism)
08: +CHA (Overwhelming Grief)
09: Skill Focus - World or Arcana (Scorching Ray, Greater Magic Weapon, False Life, Greater)
10: Loremaster > Cleric Spell > Sorcerer > Greater Command (Mindfog)
11: Spell Focus: Evocation or Metamagic (Persistent Spell) (False Life, Vampiric Touch or Battering Blast, Phantasmal Killer, Feeblemind or Stoneskin, Communal or Animal Growth)
12: +CHA (Chain Lightning or Dragonkind I)
13: Spell Specialization: Hellfire Ray [Always pick Hellfire until level 19 then pick Chain Lightning] (Dimension Door, Transformation(
14: (Ice Body or Legendary Proportions)
15: Improved initiative (Shadow Evocation or Any (5), Cloak of Dreams or Cat's Grace, Mass, Any (7))
16: +CHA (Stormbolts or Seamantle or Dragonkind III)
17: Loremaster, Improved Critical: Ray
18: Loremaster > Wizard Spell > Sorcerer > Weird (Overwhelming Presence)
19: Loremaster, Metamagic (Bolster Spell) or Dispel Synergy (Shadow Evocation, Greater, Mind Blank, Communal)
20: Loremaster > Combat Feat > Shatter Defenses, +CHA (Any (9))
Mythic:
01: Instrument of Freedom or Close to the Heavens // Best Jokes
02: Extra Mythic Ability > Abundant Casting
03: Improved Abundant Casting
04: Sorcerous Reflex // Favorable Magic
05: Greater Abundant Casting
06: Spell Focus (Mythic) > Enchantment // Zippy Magic
07: Second Bloodline > Arcana - Hare Familiar - Class Skill Any - (Sirocco, Heroic Invocation or Any Spell) - School Power > Enchantment
08: Improved Initiative (Mythic) or Improved Critical (Mythic) > Ray (Pick the other at 10) // Incredible Might or Marvelous Endurance or Life-Bonding Friendship (Shake It Off Later Allied Spellcaster)
09: Last Stand or Ever Ready or Favorite Metamagic - Bolstered or Ascended Element > Fire
10: Improved Critical (Mythic) > Ray or Improved Initiative (Mythic) or Expanded Arsenal > Illusion
Gear:
Neck: Glass Amulet of Clarity
Chest: Deadly Rays
Shirt: Robe of Inevitability or Robe of Determination into Robe of the Seven Sins
Belt: DEX + CON into Physical Perfection +6
Gloves: Twisted Temptation
Boots: Ronneck's Sacrifice
Helmet: +CHA into Mental Perfection (Darkness Caress)
Goggles: Goggles of Mind Control
Cloak: Cloak of Resistance +6
Ring 1: Red Salamander
Ring 2: Magician's Ring or Ring of Evasion
Bracer: Bracers of Armor or Stormlord's Resolve
Weapon: Quarterstaff of the War Mage, Fabled Hero's Lance for Reach Melee
Quick Slot: Greater Quicken Metamagic Rod, Grandmaster's Rod,Devouring Lust, Old Grimoire, (Extend Rods) Signet of House Vespertilio (Persuasion)
Half Elf, I think
Epic ..i really needed it written down so your a lifesaver...
The Lord of Builds very active again! Impressive!
And a lot more to come once Enhanced Edition finally arrives later this week!
I absolutely love when you incorporate subclasses and advanced classes into your builds❤️ I also love they theme of this pc touched by fey and becoming a cc sorcerer while also keeping up with the mirthfulness of the fey. Great vid!
Seeing Deskari go from "I started here I will go on to conquer the heavenly realms" to "IMPOSSIBLE" in one heightened phantasmal killer with this build was the most satisfying things I have experienced in a while, Thanks for the build
Just wanted to let you know that I was able to have a phenomenal playthrough because of this guide. I get so overwhelmed by cRPG's but you really helped me dive in with a character concept that really resonated. Thank you for all the hard work.
Hideous laughter also got a buff a few patches ago. Before, if the enemy was immune to prone, then hideous laughter wouldn't actually do anything even if they failed their saving throws. They fixed this, so that it now effects prone immune creatures. Big buff against gargoyles, succubi, etc...
That is really nice to know!
So Greater Command Halt is even less needed now.
Thank you so much for this video. I love it so much! This is build that I was searching for so long. Thank you again man!
LOVING the constant pump of content, bruv! Cheers from Seattle!
Thanks, bro!
And cheers from Rio 😁
It is getting harder and harder to wait for the enhanced edition to start a new game with the amount of fun build that you are putting online :). Almost happy that the Aeon build is not out yet, else I would not have been able to wait ^^.
Thanks !
Amazing job as usual! Awesome build! 👌
Thank you! 😁
This is exactly the kinda build I was looking for! Last Azata playthrough I went with a full blaster caster, and while I was thinking about your mutation warrior build I just prefer mage characters. Also I won't need to bring Nenio for crowd control. I might change some aspects up since I play on lower difficulties but thank you for at least a template for how to make something like this.
Spite Spawn Tiefling is actually a decent choice for this build too, as it gets +2 dex/cha and +1 DC to any enchantment spells cast.
I used a very similar build on my last MC and it was really fun! Heightened metamagic plus favorable magic is an underrated combo, and I really like sylan sorc for the bonus to enchantment DC and the pet stacking with Aivu
I have also found it to be one of the most fun builds!
I was not expecting Hideous Laughter + Best Jokes to be so fun and effective, especially thanks to how easy it is to stack Enchantment DC in Wrath even on Unfair.
Plus we also get other spells for enemies immune to it such as Greater Command: Halt!
Wait, but sylvan sorc doesn't get those +2 compulsion dc at lvl 1, right? That's pretty important bonus, is it not?
Two small things:
1. You can get a +6 Believe in Yourself by using Fiery Spell Weaver and the Robe of Seven Sins from DLC 3 (unlike some other pieces, this one is guaranteed loot from the second set of isles). You can buff and then swap the pieces away. A bit tedious, but it helps with the ugly looking 49 CHA score.
2. Kindred Half Elves have the highest DC. 21 starting CHA puts them on par with Kitsune/Tiefling, but you can also take Improved Elven Immunities for another +1 DC to Enchantment spells.
And a small bonus, DLC 3 is littered with Greater Persistent rods.
All in all I love Enchanters. A lot of people complain about certain encounters (Demodand Conspiracy or Vavakia Vanguards for instance). Greater Command absolutely neuters them. It's an insane spell that even works on the final boss (even though it shouldn't, it has Compulsion keywork in tabletop but not here).
Strongly recommend going kindred raised half elf on this and maxing charisma.
In act 1, you have an 85% chance of dazing most human enemies and grease trips like 60% of the time.
Skipping greater spell pen and picking it up later by mostly forgoing ray attacks is also very strong.
You can also take improved elven immunities for +1 to enchantment DC as well (if you really want it).
Overall the most effective act 1 & 2 pure caster I've used so far!
Now if I only had the time to play every one of your builds that look fun to me. For real though I would say 90% of the builds you put out makes me want to start up a whole new playthrough of WOTR.
Glad to hear it!
And even more fun builds to come with Enhanced Edition.
I have 4 builds working, Still on Act 5 on my furthest progressed. 😄
This build is so godly. Just had my first experience of just how ridiculously huge the jump of Hideous Laughter can be. I thought Best Jokes would just jump near enemies grouped, but running my characters around I discovered enemies way out in the fog of war that fell out of stealth, dying of laughter.
Exactly! It's crazy how far away it can chain.
I still don't get how you could get up to 60+ DC. I made almost the same build, and it's nowhere near that DC. It's at 30+ at most. Maybe make another video explaining DC stacking?
Need more op azata builds! Since it has some of the coolest story stuff, just a shame its a little harder to min/max compared to other mythics.
Great vid as always!
I have been on a roll for Azata Builds lately, it's one of my favorite early game mythics since the first Superpower you get at M4 can make a HUGE difference for some builds, mostly Favorable Magic!
And unlike Demon or Aeon with their uses/day Mythic Abilities, it's a passive so always in effect.
@@cRPGBro Yeah ive noticed! for me azata is my go to just because of the roleplay and stuff exclusive to it (aivu, floating island etc). Trickster is like very obviously insane but I just cant justify the roleplaying aspect in a game this long lol. maybe if camellia was the only person in drezen it would click.
Side note, how the hell do you do such detailed guides? I can beat a playthrough in like 60 hrs now that Ive finished the game like 7 times but like multiple a week is insane!
Oh boy, can't wait to see how this one unfolds.
All I can tell you is that it will make for a very fun build and experience, and watching the enemies including demons laugh themselves to death never gets old 😁
I know rationally that's pure coincidence that this vid went up the same day I posted a comment on your Azata vid asking about building a blasty azata (since videos take a lot of time to make and upload, to my understanding), but this still works out like a response to that, one saying "forget blasting, be a god of save or die azata like this instead!"
I have not tried a pure damage focused Azata yet, mostly because the truth is damage spells in Wrath are very underwhelming until around the mid/upper mid & late game, besides Mythic Angel & Lich spells.
However, this build not only has the very fun "save or die" tier spells but also gets Zippy Magic eventually to fry enemies with double Chain Lightning and such!
@@cRPGBro I assume you mean "underwhelming"?
@@masterjoda999 You are correct, I got stuck with the overwhelming from all the Overwhelming Mage mentions in the video, hah.
Joining the chorus on gear selections to mention the bracers of Mind Break, ANOTHER enchantment DC booster by +2. You have to kill Meliarah, that sorcerer captain in the Bad Luck Tavern in Act 4.
Heh, I am playing kinda similar build; crossblooded serpentine/undead though (quite fun!), chapter 5 atm. Mainly I am focusing on chanting and illusion personally. As far from gear, the different things iI am using (not that it matters at these dc numbers) are cloak of the ancient herald (compulsion bonus) and haramaki of divine guidance for the saving throws. Good job on the vid, keep it up!
PS: Unfair ofc.
It's crazy how the Laughing Build is amazing even for Unfair, because of how many bonuses we can add to mind affecting DC!
This was sort of the build I went for on my core play through, though it was a kitsune, supposed to be a classic trickster Yokai. She romanced Daeran.
I just thought unlike other builds that take to long to become effective I think enchantment sorcerer is an effective earlier sorcerer.
Yeah, at first I didn't give much though to it, but now I realize Enchantment is certainly a VERY powerful school in Wrath too, even at the early game.
Best Jokes coming online at just level 5-6 is golden too.
I was thinking of a similar enchantment build except i went with halfling (hasty).
I played an enchantment specialist, but mine was nine tails sorcerer (kitsune archtype) with fey-bloodline. You got lots of enchantment and illusions via the nine-tails feature which scaled higher than normal cause 1/2 HD + Cha formula than spell level + Cha mod formula (because they are spell-alike abilities). Also played trickster than azata, but seriously; mythic trick (persuasion) owns enemies hard if ramp up the persuasion checks (and later enemies literally try to kill themselves instant combat starts). All other mythic trick shenanigans (extra enchantments on gear or doing double food buffs) are icing on top.
Playing this build made me realize just how often enemies roll nat 20s lol.
I had to save scum on one encounter several times because the first enemy in the chain kept hitting 20s.
Favorable magic cannot come soon enough lol.
There is also the ring that increases the dc of enchantments spells by 2, that you can pick at the end of chapter 2.
Thank you for the tip!
I forgot to talk about it in the gear section.
I think Robe of Mephistopheles is the ultimate robe for DC casters. It gives all enemies a -4 penalty on saves against Weird (both Will and Fort) with no save. I also prefer INT casters for Draven's Hat->Gnawing Magic. Exploiter Wizards get Potent Magic (+2 DC from beginning of the game).
Nice :D
It sure is one of my most fun and thematic builds 😀
Had a very similar Enchantment focused Azata build in a previous playthrough, and it was incredibly good at shutting down entire groups of enemies. With Favourable Magic it almost feels like cheating.
Exactly!
That's what makes Enchantment focused builds so much fun 😀
looking forward to see if you can create a strong Geralt build! Butcher of Blaviken
Sounds like fun especially because Mutation Warrior is amazing and really fits Geralt!
Crossblood sorc is being slept on tbh, i think you overlook the benefit of the extra category of monsters your spells affect. I think that's very much worth a handful of spell dc (of which 2 of come from the goggles in the threshold i dont have yet, aka the very latest area in the game). Spellwise you can get all the good ones from Loremaster + Arcane bloodline and this is without Red Salamander Ring or Bracers of the Stormlord. You just need another caster to handle the buffs.
15 crossblood/5 loremaster gives me a 60 dc on Overwhelming presence at 20 (ONLY self-buffed as Elf azata +cha buff/ode to miraculous magic/steel songs and conflagrant taco) the big difference being that it works on Undead too, ie think one-shotting Alderpash in Ineluctable Prison. In fact you can swap to Serpentine bloodline and affect mobs like i think Playful Darkness as well. Depending on your progress, it might be nice in early/mid with Serpentine bloodline and Undead bloodline mid/late game. Interesting note: the Ring of Triumphant advance + Incredible Might add another 2 spell dc to both Weird and OP
Just make sure you pick Fey as your main and Undead as your secondary, otherwise you lose out of Fey magic at lv15. Then Arcane as 'second bloodline' mythic.
Would like to see more emphasis on early and mid game portions of these builds. How certain spells, feats, etc help to handle the first half of the games challenge and what they combo we'll with.
Hi there, I tried to explain it during the feat but mostly spell selection sections.
It's why for example I pick Hypnotism at level 1, Hideous Laughter for free at level 5 (and then you also get Best Jokes at level 5-6 at First Mythic). Grease & Glitterdust also help for enemies immune to mind affecting or with high SR early.
You then shift into Greater Command Halt at level 10 for the mid game, to catch enemies immune to Hideous Laughter due to knockdown immunity.
Greater Focus + Spell Pen feats are also achieved as early as possible for an increase in power during the early levels.
Great build. I noticed in your best items guides that you did not mention ambrosial attire of arcane annihilation which is although extremely powerfull only given to arcane trickster. Any chance that you will do arcane trickster prestige class guide(maybe for several paths), btw if you go trickster mythic path you can be arcane trickster without multiclassing, so won't even lose a caster level?
Hey I'm not sure if it changed with enhanced edition, but you can't pick any of the Red Salamander spells with the Spell Specialization feat. Really kinda ruins your midgame damage. If this is due to something else, please let me know. I had to go with hideous laughter for now lol since Greater Command is locked behind some unstated prerequisite at the time that CRPG Bro mentions to grab spell spec at lv13.
I belive the Ring of Triumphant Advance (Any morale bonuses the wearer has are doubled.) is best in slot.
For double stat bonus from "Believe in Yourself" and "Ode to Miraculous Magic" are preem for Azata .
From the Midnight Isles DLC.
You are correct, these rings can indeed make for an amazing gear choice as well!
I didn't realize how good they could be as they come from the 3rd DLC only.
Unfortunately this ring is random loot and not guaranteed in the campaign version of DLC 3.
@@akatama9829 Ah, so that explains why I missed it then!
Sad, as it's REALLY powerful.
@@akatama9829 you get the ring from the 4 th island in the second set of islands. Drops from the boss. But it seams to that it is not working.
I think spent more time watching your videos than actually playing this game 😆
Always more nice Pathfinder content to talk about 😁
Please make an Aeon to devil build, you're my only hope!!
Aeon to Devil might be coming soon, since I finally completed the Aeon run and have a save for the Devil switch 😀
I am trying to decide between this and your witch lich for my first EE build. Will probably end up doingboth at some point.
I would personally vouch for this one.
You might not get the OP Lich spells, but it's so much fun to play!
Plus you have very high DC and great crowd disabling tools pretty early game too.
Are you using the companion builds from your videos here? If not, what do you recommend? Also, what type of build is the custom character you have?
Many thanks for your work, impressive. This might be a stupid question and I might me be missing something, but I don't see you mention actually picking the Hellfire Ray as a spell... I've ended up having the specialization feats and not the actual spell... (going with the new build for a DLC).
red salamander ring... if someone else has been wondering ;)
I havent watched it yet, but it seems along the same lines as my sylvan sorc. It wasnt completely min maxed, as I took spell focus and greater spell focus in 4 different schools and no mythic spell focus due to being very mythic ability starved. I did enjoy it both as Azata and switching to Devil. Dominate monster and hellfire ray spam is great (both work with zippy magic), and the decrees (but not the seals so much which are incredibly situational) are actually very solid. Decree of the hunt is a massive AB and decent damage boost that can be precast. Hell's fire is a swift action, suped up stormbolts that uses ascendent element fire not electricity (generally much better), endless war is a high DC confusion effect. You cannot self buff with the spell school decrees, and the spell school restriction is any in case quite bad.
The rank 10 abilities, sword of heaven abolish guile and demonic rage with aspect of the brimorak can make hellfire ray extremely scary, alternatively, aspect of the incubus can push your spell DCs very high. Overwhelming presence spam is also really nice. This is basically Areelu and inevitable excess only however, which is a real shame. I am not optimistic at this point, but I really hope rank 10 is moved in enhanced edition. It does somewhat ruin a lot of really nice features.
All of your uses of hell's authority and hell's seals and hell's decrees can be reset twice a day with 2nd wind, so 9 uses of hell's authority, or up to 27 demonic rages, 18 sword of heavens, or more likely some combination of both, and 30 uses of both seals and decrees.
I was around 48 DC with spells and decrees, and not optimised in terms of feat selection and gear, before applying demonic rage aspect of the incubus. On core, with favourable magic, enemies almost never saved, and I had these DCs for illusion and enchantment, and slightly lower for evocation and conjuration. Unfortunately, the boots which make every 4th cast of the same spell make the next spell quickened does not work with hellfire ray used as the devil ability when I last tried.
I honestly think this is one of the few builds where Devil actually feels good.
You do have to give up believe in yourself (you get it in inevitable excess though), songs of steal, robes of mephistopheles and your caster level is stuck at 14 for your azata spellbook. Also you lose Aivu (which since her nerf really isnt that big a deal). Finally, no bestow grace, which is a huge loss to saves. The pure Azata is more powerful (if you ignore rank 10), but needs to rest significantly more often.
I have not really tried Devil yet.
It is nice to hear about some of its mechanics and the synergy it can have though.
@@cRPGBro As I say, I am not sure there are many other builds which can really take advantage of it. I have a feeling the DCs of the abilities are charisma based (may be highest stat), and you would need some degree of optimisation for spellcasting in terms of gear, feat selection and ascendent element fire for the abilities to actually be useful, and without 2nd wind and zippy magic, I think it would be considerably less effective, so thats Aeon out. So you are looking at oracle and sorcerer Azata that have the feats and gear for fire and enchantment magic.
Do an Aeon build!
And here i find myself again watching your builds and since i had problems dealing with areelu on hard difficulty i wanted to ask you for any tips regarding, that on hard difficulty areelu has a 50% concealment from her succubus aura which i couldn´t break even with echo location. Just to learn, that the grandmaster rod negates her immunity to death spells. I guess i really should read more item descriptions. In any case maybe you got other tips on dealing with areelu on the higher difficulties, since on hard she has 96 AC and the mentioned 50% concealment on her.
Hi there!
I can provide many tips for Areelu, but first it is very important to know what Class + Mythic is your main character.
I also have a video for Areelu on Unfair here as a Trickster (in hindsight, Trickery 2 for uber Dispel would have made short work of her, and I have learned a lot more about the game since that video):
ua-cam.com/video/NWo71cNhuHs/v-deo.html
@@cRPGBro Hi there, Thanks for your reply! I was running your Azata Sylvan sorcerer deathspell build. I looked through your Unfair Bosses Playlist and either it is not there or i did not see your linked Video thanks for that! My Party was composed of my Azata Sorcerer, Camellia, Daeran, Sosiel, Sheela and of course a Skald. To be fair i still have to have a second and more follow through look at your AB and AC Stacking guides. So far i never reached the 90+ AB or AC. However most encounters where very much handable for my Party until that point. I died multiple times at Areelu to the point where i lowered the difficulty to finish my playthrough. While i got to the Point of being able to finish the first phase of her encounter, as soon as the summons here copies they tend to simply delete my party.
I love the game and your videos trivialized the difficulties below hard so far for me. It stands out that there are still a lot of synergies and mechanics in this game i do not fully understand. For example is my Daeran for the love of god unable to hit anything with his hellfire ray besides trash mobs.
Keep up the good job and i am happy to see you having another dip in other mythical builds besides trickster, angel and demon.
Personally i would like to see some Aeons or devil builds although i undertsand that some of the mythic paths come very late and tehrefor are probably not that desireable to play because of that in the first place.
Either way this is already getting pretty long so for the last time thank you for your time and work you do on these builds.
hey crpgdude, do a summoner build with azata if you can, nice video as always btw :)
I'm still theorycrafting some fun summoner builds, I'll see if I can make one with Azata as I don't think the Superpowers will do much for it, sadly.
@@cRPGBro I would guess Aeon is the best bet, but do you think summoners can actually be effective in this game offensively? The gulf in power between the monsters you can summon and the monsters you have to fight is vast. I am not sure how a CR 15 summon (I think this around the level of 9th level summons) is going to be anything more than a speed bump against the likes of a balor ravager or desolating gallu stormcaller.
Instead of glitterdust i went bone shaker for 1st level 2 spell just to have a damaging spell and holy crap even early game boneshaker with the spell penetration feat destroys most enemies
Would this build work as a azata-devil? we lose some superpowers that we do not really need ( (8 onwards)) and some spells (that might hurt) for overwhelming presence and hellfire ray word kill as spell-like abilities at will. And some demon aspects that might help...
There is a bug in the hideous laughter + best jokes combo. It seems the next enemy the spell hit only counts for 10+ the spell level (2) + whatever base your cha/int is without counting enhancement. So if your base cha is 18 that means 10+2+4=16dc whereas my original dc for the spell is 10+2+heighten(2)+spellfocus(1)+cha 26(8)+gear(2) which is supposed to be 25dc. So, is it a bug or is it intended that way?
I know there might not be much demand for it, but Im curious about a way to make the arcanist white mage work. I want to go with an unconventional merc team on my replay after the enhanced edition comes out. So far I got white mage for healer and incense alchemist for buffer.
Can this build work well for Trickster path as well? I know it doesn't get Zippy Magic or Favorable Magic, but it otherwise feels so appropriate for a fey sorcerer feel and storywise.
Seems like you been on a big azata kick lately, but do you have anything for aeon? At the very least, what class or type of build would you recommend for aeon?
Could you make a Cult Leader Chaotic Evil Demon build that is fun/funny to play?
Hey cRPG Bro, Im pretty new to the game and pathfinder in general and the way you break down these explanations really does help me understand the way that the game functions a lot better than I had before. Theres a serious lack of people out there that make videos like yours so I really appreciate what you do for the community! I did have a question though, if you wouldn't mind answering; Are there any good builds for a pure dps sorcerer build? I've been running an azata 9-tailed heir but the damage isn't as high as I would've hoped and even with spell pen feats my sorcerer sometimes struggles to harm higher level demons with it. I sort've wanted to build a blaster-type sorcerer to balance out my group's damage profile of mostly being melee-heavy characters.
Thank you for the comment!
Pure DPS wise, I have not made a Sorc build like that yet. The main issue is that sadly, damage spells take quite a while to get good, and are really not recommend early game. Especially because of how high trashmob HP can go in Wrath.
@@cRPGBro Thanks for the answer! I had a feeling that might be the case, in which it would be better to focus on the broader capabilities of what sorc can do like CC until the damaging spells come online like this build accomplishes.
@@frost953 Early game (like at level 1), you might consider taking Spell Focus: Evocation and Spell Specialization: Magic Missile. This will give you some good damage right off. Also, just accept you will need to swing a glaive for a while. Choose Lich for your mythic path and start focusing on Necromancy (rather than Evocation) around level 7. Boneshatter is pretty nice and you can switch your specialization to it at level 8 (I think). Bolster, Empower, Maximize- take them all. You really don't need spell penetration, since Lich spells simply don't care. Spam Feast of Blood and Exsanguinate- Lich is so much fun. You will be Ainz Ooal Gown'ing stuff before you know it.
You should try the kineticst out if you want good magic damage
nice build and i will try this. but one correction.
crossblooded sorcerer isn't getting spells one level later, but get one spell fewer spell known at each level, than normal.
at least, thats what the description says.
I had a longer section where I explained it better, but ended up editing it out.
The way it worked for me is that you do learn spells one level later, but you still have access to the spell slots.
Problem is Sorcs usually only learn a SINGLE spell at a new spell level.
For example, at level 6 a normal Sorc has both level 3 slots and one level 3 spell, a Crossblooded would only have level 3 slots.
This does mean you can use the slots for metamagic so they aren't "dead", but still, I really don't enjoy the bigger delay for the spells I want.
@@cRPGBro I wonder if they have a bug in the code, it really feels like it should prevent you from learning the last spell you could for a given caster level, not the first. It feels like too large a penalty for having a second bloodline from level 1.
hmm is loremaster bugged now? I can't pick greater command anymore. if so what do you recommend i do for level 10?
Maybe using second lore masters secret to fetch mass heal from cleric would be nice idea?
You can do that, it's just not really needed, as you will have very high UMD to use scrolls of Mass Heal, which should be easily available by the time you can learn Mass Heal yourself.
I do like the flavor of a Sorcerer being able to cast the strongest Divine healing spell though!
Mate, your video's are bloody terrific - thanks for all the great content. I'm loving this build, but once i've downloaded the Midnight Isle DLC - how do i get the Robe of Seven Sins on to my main character story line? do i have to detour and play the DLC first?
Thanks, mate!
For Robe of the Seven Sins, I have a Guide on where to get it in my Best DLC Loot here: ua-cam.com/video/k0HvIEdo58g/v-deo.html
@@cRPGBro perfect, how did i miss that ;)
What is the best companion / build team for following the Fey Lord ?
what about Kitsune ? you do lose Feat but gain +1 DC to enchantment from Kitsune magic so it counts as level in spell focus (also + to dex and charisma )
It's a great choice for race as well, together with Kindred Half-Elf for +2 CHA 😀
Hi, is this build still viable/still works? Also if Azata grants a stacking +5 to all stats, shouldn’t you start with an even cha (20 or 22 with half elf) so that you get 20 +5 lvlups +5 stacking bonus? Or am I misunderstanding something? Hopefully you get a minute to reply, I realize this is an old video 😃 but I’m finally getting into wotr.
For roleplaying purposes, would you be able to go Lich Sylvan Sorc DC caster, similar to this build?
cRPG Bro , for the rings the Ring of Chaotic Fascination is not a better choice ? It gives 2 DC for enchantment spells and you can get on chapter 2 in the siege of Drezen.
Yep, it's really a powerful ring for Enchanters.
I confess I missed it in most of my runs, as I usually prefer to defeat Chorussina instead of the Demon, since she is way stronger.
Sadly the Demon gives far higher XP AND the Ring too so I'm never doing it anymore, hah.
Can you do a winter witch build pls
My azata bard is currently sitting at 44 DC on overwhelming presense and nothing resists it. The main point is that you have a lot of ways in reducing enemies will save. Display of power belt for -2 shake nfor - 2 mind for for - 10, and a bunch of other items as well. And on bosses who are immune to mind-affecting, I just use brilliant inspiration, with sosiel buffs and mark of justice from Seelah. IMHO any build that can kill Mephistopheles on unfair is not a bad build and I managed to do that :) Btw Sosiel got a huge buff. Guarded hearth being competence is actually a buff for him, since now touch of good will stack with guarded hearth :))) However we only need that for enemies immune to mind-affecting. Everybody else is trying to combat my 44 overwhelming presence with their 20 will saves on unfair. It's quite funny
You are correct in that there are MANY ways of debuffing enemy saves in Wrath, including from permanent gear debuffs that are always in effect and don't offer a save.
It's why I say stuff like Expanded Arsenal exploiting isn't really needed.
Kinda also why I often don't bother going with such high DC builds, but I really wanted to try one for once 😀
@@cRPGBro In this case then it wouldn't matter as much to take the Archetype that gives the bonus feats instead of Overwhelming Mage. Or maybe even Sylvan Sorc.
Would it be possible to make this build into an illusion caster? To get weird for auto kills?
Very cool build. Question though- Do you find yourself using the Overwhelming Spell ability? I've not played the Overwhelming Mage archetype, and do not know how the mechanic works in-game, but jeez, the idea of sacrificing a spell to get the extra DC seems repulsive (plus, I am pretty sure I will forget to do it 😆). Thanks for posting this build, though. The idea of enchanting all the enemies seems like a lot of fun. Oh, and do you get to coup de grace enchanted enemies?
Well, to be fair... I don't think Overwhelming ability is that much of a must, unless you were on Unfair.
I just wanted to try something different, but the reality is you'll always have plenty of slots, especially level 3 ones for at least +1 DC, thanks to Abundant Casting line.
@@cRPGBro sylvan, seeker, sage are all viable with this build, but i think sylvan still takes the cake for unfair difficulty. you'll get higher dc with the seeker / sage though (either through expanded arsenal with feat spamming on seeker, or from the 15 capstone of sage).
So, I've started a new playthrough using a similar build, you know, Seeker, but really focused on Enchantment, and I got to that Drow campsite early in Act 2, the one where they are disguised as crusader scouts and want you to drink their putrid tea and then ambush you... used Hideous Laughter on them with the Best Jokes mythic ability, and holy crap, I made them all fall down laughing. A single cast of a level two spell and I disabled every last one of them, even the ones still hidden in the fog of war. I think there were like sixteen of them, and I killed all of them so easily, except for sweet little Atsy, who I played with in my tent.
Been using this build for my first Unfair playthrough, and its gotten to the point where Im late game an most encounters are just managable annoyance at this point. That said, I'm curious.
While the CC ability is the absolute strong suit, you keep putting such a strong emphasis on Hellfire Ray. But its by far one of my weakest offensive options due to resistances and I don't really see you mention taking Ascendant Element early on. Is there something I'm missing here?
theres a ring that u get as a crusade relic in act 3 that for 1 round as a free action you change all damage to force and you can do that for whole party every turn i think he assumes you use that on higher difficulties
if I want to use this same build as a Wizard, which Archtype do you recommend??
I heard that persistent meta magic stacks with favourable magic, do you have any idea if this is true?
Add Banishment to the list and you would have two instant kill spells with high DC.
Banishment can work at times, my only complain is that enemies in Wrath, especially past Chapter 3, have really HIGH and bloated HD values. Definitely 25-30 and even more.
Which then severely reduces the power of Banishment unless you can achieve very high CL such as merged Angel or Lich.
i did really was waiting some mention to the kitsune (they have increase enchantement DC passive) but well with 60 DC i think maybe is not needed hahaha😆😆
Kitsune can certainly work, it's just that poor Overwhelming Mage is so feat starved early and mid game wise!
@@cRPGBro yeah the human extra feat is a powerful asset, even if you dont need it, its usually worth it
Half elf for charisma based casters gets +1 to all spell DCs, and a few extra spell slots.
'He he he' seemed like the most on point comment. Fun build indeed.
Kind of boring after level 14 due to the limited use of higher level enchanting spells between 6 to 8 and a shift towards the bread and butter spellcasting witu hellfire ray.
Also - doesn't the court poet increase caster DC with his insightful contemplation?
Magic themed party?
I think the build is still fun since ever for mid and end game, I find it's way better to instantly shut down whole enemy packs with a single cast of Greater Command Halt or Overwhelming Presence than go for Chain Lightning/Hellfire Ray, even when boosted with Zippy Magic.
Court Poet would indeed be able to provide even more DC!
Magic focused party I think would be kinda tough early unless you are min maxing the ones with pets slots hah, for some martial prowess for free.
Wait at what level did you get the second bloodline? I keep missing it.
Like to take this idea and make a lich
It can be done too!
It's just that with Lich, I prefer to spam their Mythic Spells instead.
Thank you! Kitsune race is fine for this too?
Yep, Kitsune can also work for the bonus to Enchantment.
Although it would delay feat progression by one.
If you're just playing on core could I just go tiefling instead of human ?, I get that I'm missing out on feats but will it cripple the build alot if I decide against human ?.
Even on unfair you can go for a non human brother, in any build
Could this work for a non-azata npc? I'm playing a melee trickster and thought i might try building this as an npc to run with her as someone who makes people laugh to death seems like a friend a trickster would have. Or does it just not work without the Azata buffs to it?
It can definitely work for other Mythic Paths (or none), the only downside is losing Favorable Magic Superpower which is a big boost.
However, because of how high you can get the DC regardless, it's not really an issue in the grand scheme.
@@cRPGBro Cool. I might have to give it a try.
Can I use Sylvan Sorc instead of the 3 options you used for class?
Yep, it has slightly less Spell DC but frankly there's so many Enchantment boosts from Gear etc. that it doesn't matter.
The pet on the other hand is a tremendous benefit from level 1 to level 20.
Not my stile but a very solid build :)
I need to let u know that actualy Azata spellbook is bugged and Believe in Yourself is actualy missing for new character
Effective and fun build indeed 😀
Are you sure Believe in Yourself is missing?
It should be automatically added for free to your spellbook, you don't really have to pick it up during Mythic Level ups.
I don't understand how he gets such a high spell DC. At 34:12, when he hovers over the Hideous Laughter spell (heightened to level 3) we see it's DC is 56. Let's try to break it down:
Basic DC -- 10 + 3 (spell level) + 19 (cha modifier) = 32
Gear bonus -- 2 (necklace) + 1 (robe) + 2 (gloves) + 2 (goggles) + 3 (staff) = 10
Other -- 4 (spell focus, greater spell focus, with mythic spell focus) + 2 (school power) + 2 (fey bloodline) = 8
That's a total of 50. Even if we assume he took the demongraft (wasn't mentioned), that's still only 52. Since this build is so dependent on having a high DC it would've been nice if this was broken down. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?
This is pretty important since in the late game DC of 52 isn't that high (on unfair). Most enemies have saves around 40. So a DC of 56 is very nice (especially since the spell can be heightened 6 more levels, making the DC 62, which is only beatable on 20 even for most endgame enemies) but 52 is much less reliable, even if we heighten to 9th level it's still a DC of 58, which is like 20% success chance for late game enemies. And that's using our best spell (meaning the one we have the most DC bonuses for) on the highest level. If we try a non-enchantment or non-mind affecting spell, or if we heighten to less than 9th, the enemy would most likely succeed the save. So it's really important to know where this considerable DC bonus comes from.
And I know it's very easy to increase DC with Expanded Arsenal, but I don't like abusing it and I was under the impression that this build doesn't abuse it either.
There is also +1-3 from sacrificing spell slots as Overwhelming Mage.
+2 from Azata spell Songs of Steel
And I forgot a Ring (Ring of Chaotic Fascination, end of Chap 02) that adds another +2, and there's also Bracers of Mind Break (Chap 04) for another +2.
So if anything I ended up missing +4 easy to have permanent DC.
There are also multiple ways to irresistibly debuff enemy saves without spending an action such as:
1. Display of Power Belt for -2 to Will aura
2. Dark Aura from The Undying Love of the Hopebringer Shield, for -2 to mind affecting aura
3. Robes of Mephistopheles for -4 aura to mind affecting
Not to mention activated irresistible debuffs such as Evil Eye for -4 & Visions of Madness for up to -10 at once!
Last but not least, don't forget Favorable Magic Superpower forces enemies to roll twice and pick the WORST result when attempting to save vs your spells.
@@cRPGBro Thanks for replying. I know how to debuff and have acutally finished the game on unfair with multiple caster builds. My point wasn't to ask how to succeed with a caster but rather to understand the mechanics behind your high DC (this is completely separate to debuffing the enemy). Thanks again.
could this work in kingmaker too?
Is it possible to go with this enchantment oriented build, but going demon instead of azata?
I'd say it is possible as Demon can get good bonuses to DC from some Rage Aspects and even spell damageg, but Azata is overall far easier since your most important ability for a DC caster, Favorable Magic, is gained right at Mythic 4 and also a passive, so always in effect, unlike Demonic Rage which is limited in uses/day.
Does the newest patch affect this build in any negative way dear cRPG-Bro?
Yeah, there's a bug that won't let you take greater command at level 10 (game still thinks you're one cater level behind).
Continue sorcerer progression at level 10, then dip into loremaster at level 11 for greater command.
Also, they buffed hysterical laughter to work on enemies immune to prone, so greater command isn't as necessary anymore.
Thank you, I'm learning a lot, so now dipping into loremaster isnt necessary?@@connorgaskill7653
My head hurts.
Well, it is a build focused on mind affecting spells 😀
Why not start as Tiefling with heritage that give another +1 to enchantment DC ?
It can be done, the same with Kitsune.
However, you then lose an extra feat, and this build is quite feat starved early on since Overwhelming Mage gets no bonus feats at all.
I wonder how high would be your DC if you used expanded arsenal enchantment and how would you modify this build to ulitize that?
It could be higher but would be extremely costly feat wise in a build that is already very feat starved.
I simply don't think it is worth it at all, and quite overrated.
You already have enough Enchantment DC that any non boss enemy will have to roll higher than 20, thus impossible to resist.
Even for boss enemies on Unfair they still have to roll extremely high and this is WITHOUT taking in accounts debuffs, such as -2 from Display of Power, -4 from Robe of Mephisto, -2 from Dark Aura Shield (and these three are always in effect) and then you have activated debuffs: -4 from Evil Eye, -10 from Visions of Madness...
And that is without taking Favorable Magic in consideration too 😀
@@cRPGBro How do you effectively use vision of madness on enemies - you need to beat spell resistance isn't that right?
Also most cleric builds are focused on buffs so no spell penetration at all and you need to get close to enemy.
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1. When it to comes to making the attack: prebuffed Extended True Strike before battle (lasts like more than 25s so you have enough time to use it as Touch Attack).
2. For the SR, I find you only truly need it for the Chapter 5+ bosses (assuming you aren't a very high DC build like this), and by then you have the Zaoris' Beauty Headband that adds Allied Spellcaster feat to whole party so you always penetrate their SR from the stacked boost.
Getting 2x Evil Eye from Ember + Cam would be far easier against most the other enemies beforehand. Although usually just one is more than enough when really stacking DC and taking Favorable Magic reroll in account.
@@cRPGBro I think I tried to use vision of madness on Nocticula and I failed hard to beat her spell resistance after that I have never bothered using that anyway.
Did they remove moral support and believe in yourself spells from Azata?!
Nope, Azata Mythic Spells are just given for free once you reach the required Mythic Rank, you don't have to pick them up while leveling.
Not sure if you have looked into it, but is a lich arcane trickster battering ray specialist able to outclass hellfire ray builds? You should be able to get 7 battering blasts, so with high sneak attack dice, this might be fairly powerful. Unfortunately, elemental specialists can no longer convert force damage to fire for all the fire specific gear, so my instinct is that this cannot compete with hellfire ray builds.
Battering blast as a lich is very good. the damage is soo high!
so as a lich one can get very high caster level, even caster level 40 with gear buffs and whatnot. a caster level 40 means 8 rays from battering blast. each battering blast does a bull rush maneuver on the opponent, which means that if you have the death rush lich power it will do its additional damage on every ray that hits the enemy. on top of that the eclipse chill lich power adds 2d8+mythic rank cold damage to all you spells, and that is per instance of damage, so it is 2d8+ mythic rank damage on every ray of battering blast AND it has a chance of making the enemy vulnerable to cold and negative damage, which means they would take 50% more damage from those sources.
then if you take the lich power that allows you to change your energy damage to negative energy, the battering blast with death rush and eclipse chill will do negative damage ( it tested and it does in fact change the damage from battering blast from force to negative energy) reaching very high damage over 1500 points of damage for each battering blast if you bolster empower and maximize it.
@@flavioromano8754 Eclipse chill has a few problems. First, the main appeal, the negative energy vulnerability, allows a not very high DC save. Your BBs will hit hard enough to one shot most enemies, and the tough enemies where it matters will probably save. Secondly, its very finite. Thirdly, its competing with much better lich powers.
Fear control is +4 to hit. If you arent otherwise guaranteed to hit your target, this is a very large damage increase (if you had a 50% chance to hit, its now 70%, a 40% damage increase). The touch AC of the hardest enemies in the game like playful darkness and areelu are far from trivial (well, before you use corrupt magic anyway).
Death rush is up to +10d6 per projectile without limitation.
Deadly magic breaks all immunities and stops enemy spell casting, which is incredibly useful, though to be fair, you can reply on your phylactery.
But no way you should take death of elements AND eclipse chill if you focus on BB.
Also, you wont bolster, because sneak attack damage adds way more. Metamagic in general is not very effective, because the large majority of the damage will come from sneak attack and death rush, which arent affected by metamagic. Its mainly useful for allowing you extra spell slots, and I would certainly prioritise quicken, especially if playing a sorc.
Cast level 40 is pretty optimistic too. Yes, at mythic rank 10 with the right staff, robe and with both spell specialisation and school mastery, you can add +8 to caster level, and hit caster level 32 with dark rites before gear and feats.
But mythic rank 10 is so late as to be meaningless, using the caster level staff is instead of edge of force, and to qualify for arcane trickster, you need to drop another caster level. So with caster level 30 at mythic rank 9, I would just take cloak and spell specialisation, use the dagger and save a mythic feat and settle for 7 projectiles.
Still, but rank 9 and the ineluctable prison tome, with sense vitals, you can have 13d6 sneak attack, another 2d6 from treacherous flame (though either you break edge of force with death of elements or take ascendent element fire which isnt ideal) and 9d6 from death rush, so 29d6+10 from edge of force per projectile, which is a little shy of 800 per cast.
Its not as damaging as the best hellfire ray builds, but you can use an extra 3 spell levels worth of slots on it, or use the higher level slots on other powerful spells instead, and its going to one shot most things. Its also a lot more damaging than the best hellfire ray lich build specifically.
Not sure how you are realistically getting 1500 per blast though.
@@notalefty999 u r underestimating the damage from bolster empower and maximized
@@flavioromano8754 Blandly asserting something does make it true, and given the points you overlooked (bolster not working with sneak attack for example), I will take your claims without any supporting explanation with a pinch of salt.
The portion of damage that is affected by metamagic is 35d6+70. Before metamagic is applied, this is a little under 200 (I think it average 192.5). With both empower and maximise, the damage is 420. That is in increase of a little over 200, which is substantial, but its not 800 to 1500, more like 800 to 1000. I can only assume you are factoring eclipse chill debuff with death of elements, but a realistic DC for eclipse chill at endgame is mid 30s. Enemies which arent being 1 shot by 800 damage generally arent going to fail against that DC.
Is increasing a 3rd level spell to an 8th level spell worth it for a 25% damage increase? No, not in of itself. You might reasonably argue that this combo for battering blast is so overpowered its worth casting this spell with an 8th level spell slot, but that has a lot more to do with the base spell damage, not the metamagic damage increase.
With a 7th level spell, you could be casting twice in a round, which is far more beneficial. Alternatively, you could use highten spell and be able to cast the spell at any level between 3 and 9, and any level between 7 and 9 with quickened also. This is a lot more practical if you want to use the extra spell slots on the spell.
@@notalefty999 idk why you are soo fixated about sneak attack, at no point i said anything about sneak attack.
Where to find Robe of Seven Sins? Havent seen it before.
It is from the 3rd DLC: The Treasure of the Midnight Isles.
I talk about it and other nice loot you can find there in this video: ua-cam.com/video/k0HvIEdo58g/v-deo.html
Why don't you use the ring that gives you +2 DC on enchantment spells?
Also the braces of dominance from act 4
Although I do not know if they all stack with one another
I forgot to talk about the Ring during the Gear section indeed!
I ended up slotting the +2 Illusion DC ring there and forgot to switch it back during editing.
Bracers of Dominance I find a bit wasteful for this build since we don't really get high critical range.
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Overall playing a laughing build was my favorite run of WotR
I played Kitsune+Cross blooded on my unfair run(because I didn't want to be sitting ducks against undead during act 1-3) but I think if I were to do it again I would pick the other class, as you said slow and limited spell progression sucks.
The only problem with this build is that it sometimes feels like you're literally just roll initiative and if your guy starts first the encounter is over (especially in turn based mode), I even got inspired leadership early on a companion so I almost always win the roll
Another point was that it was a shame that Nenio gets benched as a result of your PC needing all the DC equipment, I really like to have Nenio in the party
i have a question, so becoming incorporeal adds your dex bonus again as ac?
So far the only Incorporeal spell I have tried out is Sun Form from Angel, and it does add your CHA mod to AC as Deflection according to the game's rules.
@@cRPGBro ok i see. ty
Can this build work as a sylvan sorcerer…? Or nah?
Yes
Who is that "bard" companion and where do you pick him up?
That is my Skald mercenary! You can hire mercs from the Hilor NPC.
i do notice you always have alot of divine casters and not really use arcane casters. I always try to have at least one arcane caster myself but is my assement that this is needed wrong? ps really like haste. btw i do know some like this one does has arcane caster but did notice it in all builds that the main character isn't an arcane caster you wont use them.
one question though, what (execpt for dispelling) does Aeon does beter then the other class. cause i feel like divine caster -> angel, arcane-> lich, crit -> trickster, Spell DC -> azaa, sheer damage -> demon.
I DO use Arcane casters, just not full ones like Nenio, unless the main character like this one or Lich combos.
The main reason is that I leave the spot to Skalds or Bards, and they have access to most of the powerful low level arcane buffs, including the ever so needed Haste! Also Blur, Displacement, Glitterdust & even Grease too for early game!
Don't forget Good Hope: which is vastly better than Heroism, and they can learn Greater Heroism too.
If you dont use mercs, and your main character isnt themselves a pure arcane caster, I think Nenio is a must pick companion. Ember is less useful. She is a bad archetype, not optimised for her caster stat, and the witch spell list without a good patron is quite bad. And just because she gets hellfire and scorching ray doesnt mean she is anything special when it comes to using them.
Do you have any tiefling builds?
Not a specific one at the moment, but going Motherless Tiefling can work for many of my melee builds, as the extra Bite attack per round is pretty strong.
Motherless Sohei is pretty good.
Atm in chapter 4. My dc is 26, everything seems to be making their saves just fine😅 did I do something wrong?
You need to buff yourself and debuff the enemies
Very. At the beginning of chapter 3 my DCs are in the 30s.
Remember to buff and use good gear. Also maxing charisma and going kindred raised half-elf is way better than human due to the ability to have 26 charisma to start with.
But how do u pass maze at Unfair?
In that case, it might be best to lose a few DC but instead go with Sylvan Sorcerer for the Leopard pet.
You can also multi Wenduag or Lann into a pet class early for another Leopard.
And be sure to have Camellia use Protective Luck to highly increase the chances of enemies not hitting Leopard AC.
The Grease spell from your Sorcerer will highly contribute too.
how would you build your team for this?
It's the usual team I prefer as explained here: ua-cam.com/video/x8Sc_Op3bdA/v-deo.html
Sosiel, Seelah and Camellia are always amazing, unless you already have another character that can cover their roles, which Fey Lord doesn't.
Daeran is a great pick too, and then a ranged char like Aru, Lann or Wenduag can help, together with a Skald mercenary.
I'm trying to play this in Unfair, and maybe I'm playing it wrong, but I must say my main character feels f*king useless, now in early act 3. I feel like Ulbrig mostly carried me thus far... I have like 30% chance to hit Hideous laughter on somewhat trash-mobs and it's a miracle if I manage to chain this on more than 2 enemies, with DC of 30... Maybe I'm playing in the wrong order?
Are you stacking all the sources of +DC and also debuffs as far as enemy saves (for bosses at least as it can be hard to do it for trash mobs due to many targets).
For example, by Chapter 3 you can find:
1. War Mage Staff for +2
2. Chaotic Fascination Ring for +2
3. Glass Amulet of Clarity for +2
4. +2 from Conflagrant Taco buff (can be bought as early as Chapter 3 with all ingredients now)
So that's a +8 to Enchantment DC.
Ideally you really want to rush for Azata M4 too (Azata gets it the earliest anyways) because Favorable Magic is a massive increase to your chances of the enemy failing their saves.
But yes, DC casters will have a tougher time on Unfair as opposed to just buff + attack parties.
Also, the DC for secondary chains of Hideous Laughter with Best Jokes was bugged to be lower, but the latest patch corrected it.
@@cRPGBro I have 2 of these 4 items you suggested, but still 34 DC on unfair is finicky with the other 2. Maybe I use the wrong strategy? My party is a Paladin Seelah, Skald merc, Sosiel/Manticore Wenduag, Daeran, and Ulbrig. My thought was for my MC to CC everyone and the rest to clean up with damage. Now it seems the best strategy for them is to charge for surprise rounds, either succeeding before my MC needs to do anything or dying after 2-3 rounds as Seelah falls... Or maybe I shouldn't get to Blackwater so early...
@@vladimirtchuiev2218 Blackwater is the hardest part of Chapter 3, so for Unfair, it should definitely be left towards the end of the Chapter.
And yes, going for surprise strikes + buff & attack is more effective than bothering with CC and Spell Damage, it's just a lot more noticeable on Unfair due to bloated enemy stats.
@@cRPGBro Sorry I confused Blackwater with Wintersun, I'm in Wintersun right now and every battle is a drag. Anyway, the videos where you are blasting away demons in Threshold, what difficulty are they?
I do really want to play Azata with Aivu, but I guess it is not strong as lets say Trickster or an Angel, but it will probably be better for me to find a more melee focused build for my first complete Unfair playthrough. Maybe a Skald will be a good fit...