I'm Not Ashamed - The Cinema Snob
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The Cinema Snob reviews I'm Not Ashamed. - Фільми й анімація
There was another girl killed at Columbine who was Christian and an aspiring writer. But, she was chubby, had braces and was Catholic so no one's going to make a film about her.
yeah Rachel , at least as she is put in this movie, is that beautiful white girl that media likes to wave around whenever something happens.
I think of rather watch a movie about the girl your mentioning sounds more interesting
I’d watch a film about Clay Walsh being killed in the Columbine shootings over this
Nobody cares about the victims
Is that kelly fleming?
"Insensitive, exploitive and a bit tasteless."
Well, I know what's going on my tombstone.
asnaes Booo! Hisss! ...Does Tombstone even MAKE pizzas anymore?
Koen Van Damme I'm putting 'She Was Jesse James' Friend' on mine xD
I've seen exploitive dicks and tasteless dicks. I just can't imagine what insensitive dicks are...
Nope. just cardboard and ketchup
*poop-finger* "I warned thee!!!" ;-)
Oh shit son, I haven't heard the "Columbine was caused by video games" argument in fucking forever!
vsGoliath
I saw that and immediately went "fuck you". This is 2017. There are people who let their small children play "Call Of Duty", so I think it's safe to say that MOST people (yes, I do know that some people still have puritanical ideas about video games) don't give a shit about what their kids play.
In fairness, the movie itself doesn't seem to blame the game but just that it unfortunately helped them bring up the topic, which they don't seem to blame the game for. That's just my interpretation though (I actually saw this in theaters when it came out), so I could be wrong.
I was honestly surprised music didn't come up.
To be fair to the film, footage of their "training" does have them saying things like "Its gonna be just like Doom." so the film might not be so much blaming videogames as much as pointing out factual things about their mindset
To be fair, there probably is some connection, video games just aren't the cause. People with the mental health issues that lead to mass shootings are most likely attracted to violent video games and lack the necessary capabilities to distinguish fiction and reality.
But saying video games are the cause is just stupid.
This movie foreshadows with the subtlety of a fucking sledgehammer to the face.
No. A sledgehammer to the face is way more subtle than this movie.
It's about as subtle as an elephant I'd say
With lit firecrackers taped to it.
Well..it IS about the Columbine Massacre. Everyone knows how it ends.
So it's not like they could really foreshadow anything beyond stating the fucking obvious, over and over and over.
I can imagine the foreshadowing as a speeding train with the word "foreshadowing" painted on it.
Someday we'll beat the snob to a review...someday
The Bible Reloaded
LOLz. You'll always lose to te Snub!!!! Praze te Soperior SNUB!!!!
:P
Well, you both lost to God Awful Movies, but I'm pretty sure you guys got the Ray Comfort stuff before them.
Three of my favorite UA-camrs in one place...I would say I'm hard, but that would be lie, but this is definitely exciting.
In the meantime if you guys could get Brad on a Chick Tract I would literally jizz myself
The Bible Reloaded I demand a crossover....if you don't I'll...uh....run out into traffic!!!
After this, I can't wait to see how Pure Flix tackles 9/11, WWII, the Orlando Shooting, or the Sandy Hook Massacre. That being said, was anybody else having issues telling Harris and Klebold from the rest of the kids. The two actors playing them look so generic that they could have played any number of the extras and I wouldn't have noticed.
I would expect the people at Pure Flix to praise the Orlando Shooter and vilify the victims, because that's the stance of most Christian Extremists.
The Westboro Baptist Church are in love with this shooter for what he did.
You're probably right. It would be kind of amazing to see what kind of backlash they would get for that. Then again, it seems like more and more Christians in America are drinking the Kool-Aid of Fundamentalism as most Christians seem to believe that God's Not Dead has a happy ending.
If Pure Flix makes an Orlando Shooting movie where that supports the Westboro Baptist Church's view, I think they would even get backlash from Christians that aren't friendly towards the LGBT too.
because an Orlando shooting movie that presents the shooting as a good thing is pro-murder.
PeaTearGryfin Video games caused all of them. And Marylin Manson.
+blackacidlizzard if you truly cared about the purity and survival of the white race you would end your pathetic existence
There are three things that arouse me immensely:
1) Amazon Gift Cards
2) Bernie Sanders's voice.
3) The majority of people (including celebrities) taking the piss out of Christian Fundamentalists and their propaganda.
The universal panning of films like Saving Christmas and God's Not Dead, people like Kyle from Secular Talk calling out Pat Robertson and Rick Perry on their bullshit, etc.
While we are making requests I would like an explanation of number 2. Bernie has great rhetoric but he doesn't have a fantastic sounding voice.
Although my standard for an arousing voice is more in the wheel house of Mike Rowe.
I really wish I could agree with you on point 3, but given that I live 45 minutes away from Brad, I can assure that most Christians in this area eat movies like these up. Hell, the Christian school I went to as a child has made viewings of the God's Not Dead films a required school field trip.
Do Christian Fundamentalists even do stuff anymore? All the UA-cam atheists I'm subscribed to make fun of far leftists exclusively now.
Ebselon Naught They got seriously suppressed and everyone got bored of dealing with them. Far leftists and Islam is more vogue although keep your eye out for Alt Right and MGTOW. Expect to see more of those.
As a native Coloradan I would like to give pure flix a double middle finger salute
scott bryant
Same👌🏻😂
I’m from Britain and know Jack shit about Columbine and I wanna punch the director of this movie in the face
Same and I am from PA
The good old Stone Cold salute that's perfect for Pure Flix.
1000 Middle Fingers to you Pureflix
You know what a movie about a victim of the Columbine massacre needs? A fucking love triangle.
9:45 i don't think "Mein Kampf" needs that many swastikas on it's cover to show people what it's about, I mean the title alone should suffice, no?
You mean you want the asshats at Pureflix to be *subtle*? Ah hahahahahah!
American audience....
Subtlety just doesn't exist in Christian movies. They have to dumb it down for their audience.
Oh God I have a funny Mein Kampf story. So I was in a book store browsing the latest issue of Dragon and this kid with a shaved head comes in and asks if they have a copy of Mein Kampf. The clerk does some typing on her computer and can't find it. So she asks who the author is. I think everyone in the story looked at her and then the kid says awkwardly, "Adolph Hitler"
Why would there have even been swastikas on it, it was written before Hitler joined the Nazi party.
This movie's dialogue and characters sound like the writers listened to two rap songs and began writing. Also the foreshadowing in this film is relentless!
Della Yassine
Yeah, I'm surprised the whole film wasn't just "Yo, Christ is da king and off da CHAINZ, fo shizzle!"
holy shit someone remembers kizarny!
Mom asks her- “ are you buzzing “?!
Anyone else feel that wether the story is true, it's still inapropriate to make a movie about a mass shooting to exploit it for a Chrsitain message?
I thought the same thing the first time I saw the trailer... Along with unyielding rage that pure flix would stoop so low.
I do. I have a slight feeling that PureFlix will continue to exploit various historical tragedies to propagate a message of Christianity. If PureFlix made a movie about the tsunami in Japan; they would depict the disaster as God punishing the Japanese for not being Christians like their neighbors in South Korea.
Eric never knew Rachel, nor did he or Dylan shoot anyone for being Christian. Eric never aimed a gun at her head or talked to her, she died from distance purely for being outside. Dylan did ask a girl who screamed out in paiin (Valeen Schnurr) if she believed in God (after she yelled OH GOD!) and after she said yes he walked away and she is still alive to this day. Eric did talk about hating a Christian girl in his psychology class called Rachel, but it was not Rachel Scott. He didn't know her. As for Dylan, she was sort of a friend to him, he saved one of her live performances by fixing a mix tape she had made that malfunctioned (he worked as the sound engineer for school plays) and he was concerned when it broke down and in record speed he fixed it for her and after the performance she thanked him for it.
Shhh! Don't bring facts into this and ruin the Christians' little "faith is good" story.
Sshhh don’t tell people that if people know the truth Rachel’s mother can no longer play the “my daughter died because of her faith” card
The weird this about the colombine schooters i that they really just seemed to be normal teenagers. They had side jobs, they had friends they were involved with school activities. It even turned out that they weren't even badly bullied. A big contrast between someone like like a Seung-Hui Cho or a Nikolas Cruz.
Kevin Van veen they were just fucked in the head
If I recall one of the two threw a bomb at them but it didn’t do much damage and then immediately after those two monsters shot Rachel and her friend Philando Castille. Philando survived albeit suffered life long damage and Rachel died. Edit: It’s Richard Castaldo I made an error and I don’t know why.
I'm honestly surprised at how...not sucky this turned out. I was expecting something along the lines of Old Fashioned or War Room, but this is nowhere near as cringey or hard to watch as those films.
Duke Spubber I'm a pretty "hard" atheist (actively believe god/s doesn't/don't exist, think religion is a harmful force in the world, think the Bible promotes evil etc.) and I could get behind that. She searches for meaning during the cynical-ass 90s, struggles with the way she was raised at home vs the way her peers want her to be, makes mistakes and learns and grows, then tragedy at school strikes and she loses her life, denying the audience proper closure the way that movies make them want to have it.
Yeah, if you remove all the foreshadowing and the scenes with the shooters, it would seem like a decent movie about a teenager struggling to find her way in high school, making mistakes, and being tragically murdered before she could grow up and become a woman.
the strange thing is it didn't have much to do with the shooting at all
You had me at 90's and angst.
peter vogt Well I'm not watching this review because it has Angst.
I'm a Christian, and I actually have to agree with you. They really should have done a better job with this film. One of my biggest issues with the film is that this wasn't actually Rachel. I read Rachel's Tears, the book her parents wrote a year after she died, and I studied Columbine for years, because it's oddly fascinating to me. Movie Rachel has totally different motivations from Real Rachel. Also, I am tired of everyone turning Columbine into a religious thing. I don't know if that conversation happened before she died, but I do know that Eric and Dylan weren't just targeting Christians or jocks or whatever. They had planted bombs that didn't go off. You don't get more indiscriminating than bombs. They were looking to take as many lives as they could. And all the rumours that they were fueled by Marilyn Manson and such, they hated Manson. They were literally fueled by hate. They hated everything. They used Doom to practice the massacre and pretend it was the school, but they'd already made up their minds before they got to that point.
They easily could have made this a great psychological study, but they totally made them 2D characters, like you said. I actually write a review about this movie after I saw it, and there's a paragraph I wrote that I'm going to copy and paste here...
In reality, Rachel and Dylan Klebold started to become friends at one point, and he even started to like her. In the film, they have one encounter. If they wanted to go in the high school drama route, they easily could have left this in and upped the drama! He likes her, but Eric Harris wants to kill her, and he’s conflicted. It adds more character than “Imma just follow Eric blindly”.
I'm a Christian, but I don't think a Christian studio should have made this. Rachel was a Christian, but that doesn't make Columbine a religious tragedy. In order to accurately portray what happened, they need to get a "real" studio behind it.
I just looked up and realised how long I've made this, so I'm just going to stop now...
@ no keep typing please I want to hear more I'm not being sarcastic I actually do want to hear more of what you were trying to say please
@@jadenbryant9283 Glad I'm not alone!
Same here. Keep typing.
I read all of it in like a second and I kinda wanna read more because it was really well written!
@@Ukiby3000 Same here. I don't mind long posts as long as they have paragraph breaks. Walls of text really mess with my ADHD.
This essay was fine and very well written.
"I'm missing all the fun!"
"No you're missing all the *S* *I* *N* ."
...So, the Pureflix movie about Columbine is...one of the "Better" ones? ....How does that happen!?
They didn't make the movie, merely distributed it.
Jacob C. Mayer just imagine if the did develop it
Ooooohh, that explains everything.
There’s spongey
This movie is surprisingly not as hateful as I expected from pureflix . Still, great vid as always
I would even dare to say it's less hateful and tasteless than "Collateral Beauty".
stranget92 That's not saying much.
Nate good point
asnaes oh, beyond a doubt.
Nate I said " not as" hateful. I didn't say it wasn't at all
8:07
Uh.... Is this movie using the whole "Hitler was a Darwinist, thus meaning that evolution is inherently evil and believing in it makes YOU a Nazi" argument again? For Christ's sake, not this old and tired argument again!
Also to note, he did not exactly believe in evolution, he was a light ID guy. Primarily his view was the wacko ideology of Aryanism (You know the covenant from Halo? That's Aryanism but with an actual basis in reality in the Halo universe)
I think it was more the "actively aided" aspect it was supposed to be highlighting.
Careful some tobacco companies might think you're serious.
Also social Darwinism different from Darwin generally CHristian movies
Pun intended?
Why do I have the feeling one of PureFlix's next projects is about 9/11?
Nathaniel Levesque Don't jinx it!!
Nathaniel Levesque This needs to happen
Nathaniel Levesque Nah, it's God's Not Dead 3: In Space No One Can Hear You Pray
Nothing listed so far, but we have 3 movies coming out 2017:
The Case for Christ, Same kind of Different as Me, and God's not Dead 3.
What do you bet the first one is about a grossly misrepresented court case? And the second one has had the trailer described by The Guardian as "The worst, most offensive thing I've ever seen". Ouch.
Is that the one with Djimon Hounsou and Greg Kinnear? Cause I saw a trailer in front of Fences.
Pretty sure Beavis and Butthead was popular in the 90s, and they said fart knocker, I'm giving it a pass.
Jacob Niedermayer Yeah, but I'm also sure bullies used harsher words that start with "F, " too.
Ehh, I think teachers might not take you to the office for fartknocker.
You guys think that the title is also a statement from Brad about his life choices?
Considering his shit eating grin after mentioning hillary's america, I'd believe that.
Christian Blaise I must've missed all the Crystal Pepsi references then.
video games? really? I would have thought, they were going to lay the blame, on Marilyn Manson.
no but doom
He would totally sue.
Well, people in real life did a pretty good job of blaming him after the shooting, which is ridiculous of course.
But wait- they did mention the LA Riots, and that involved black people, and some black people are Muslims...so it's the Muslims' fault!
Didn't The two shooters consider MM a sellout? I have heard accounts of them listening to bands like KMFDM and Ministry.
I've never clicked on a video so fast as soon as the notification popped up.
Thanks, Brad.
Rachel Moon Me too.
Rachel Moon Same
Same Rachel
If at all possible I drop what I'm doing to watch a notification when it comes for Snob/Stoned Gremlin related things.
Rachel Moon You hear that Brad? You helped set a personal record. That's why you're one of my heroes!
Me neither! I saw it and thought " 'I'm Not Ashamed'...where have I heard tha--OH SHIT!!!!"
21:53 "...Bullying other bullies. So they're the Dexter of bullies?" That one got me lol.
I love that you're giving some lip service to The Bible Reloaded. Those guys deserve the attention. In fact, you should go on their channel for a Chick Tract reading. That would make my day.
TheAtticus Productions
Oh fuck yes!
It's really sad that the reality is that she wasn't even the victim to assert her faith in front of the shooters. It was someone else entirely, and they survived.
"This movie does to schools what Jaws did to the ocean"
Nice Meme Are you by chance a YMS fan?
Konnie The Hero I am
Nice Meme Well, a YMS reference on a Snob video has certainly earned my respect. 👍
1:32 TheBibleReloded guys paused their viewing of the trailer when it first came out to google that, and in ten minutes they discovered that that never happened. Rachel's friend who survived never said that they said that. There was a rumour that they said that to a girl Cassie Burnell in the library-but again several survivors stated that neither of the killers ever said that to her. I know most people here would have already seen that video, I'm just leaving this comment about it anyway.
I was so excited about this movie at first and then got so disappointed it wasn't what I thought. It just didn't capture the Rachel we all read about and loved. They got an encounter totally wrong with a character in here based on Brooks Brown where they talk about their different beliefs. Brooks Brown wrote about this encounter in his book No Easy Answers he dedicated a whole chapter about Rachel talking about how she was the first tolerant Christian who didn't care that he was an atheist. It just shows what an inspiration she was to all people and not just because of her religion and this movie just didn't portray it that way. The encounter at 18:13 in this video is based on true events in No Easy Answers and did not play out the way this movie portrayed it.
Oh boy, this will be a tough watch. How much will Pureflix fuck this up?
Francisco Oliveira A lot
Now that was surprising, the movie can be considered passable.
Yeah I uh. Wow. I'm kind of surprised they didn't go as far as I was dreading. I'd be disappointed but honestly, I'm more grateful for small miracles in this case.
Let's all wait for I'm Not Ashamed 2: Electric Boogaloo. Hi Zarya!
AYYYYYY
I'm still questioning why people seem to think Christians are being persecuted in the States.
Martyr complex? The Beatitudes had something about those who were persecuted being in heaven, so to compensate for their lack of actual persecution they create boogeymen to make them feel warm and fuzzy.
The Bible as a book strongly pushes a narrative of persecution of Christians, one that isn't entirely unfounded considering the time period it was written in. As such, the Bible also strongly praises those who suffer persecute and become martyrs in the name of God. I kind of think modern day Christians feel like they need to feel persecuted in some way. The Bible says that the world will not accept Christianity, that they will face hardships for their faith. But we're in the US, where most people are either also Christian or don't care if you are. So they need SOMETHING to make them feel persecuted.
Atheism gaining traction is scaring them. It's only a matter of time before religion phases out. It's only kept alive from parents instilling their beliefs on their children
@The Archivist Believe it or not, Christians are also persecuted here. Now it's definitely not as bad as it is in other parts of the world where you'll get killed on the spot for even mentioning God, Jesus, or anything else relating to the bible but it's still here. So far, it's mostly young people who believe are getting bullied by their peers or people just insulting the religion itself online. Though it will most likely get worse in the future if let's say a hardcore atheist gets elected as president and aims to make church and Christianity illegal. If that ever happens then you'll know that there will be a large number of people who'll support it because they're tired of hearing about Christianity. But I don't think punishment for praying and rejoicing here (if what I said ever happens) will end with public executions or just flat out imprisonment. All we can to is hope and pray that it never comes to this.
@@CCaster2000 What a load of bullshit and you know it. Both of your political parties are christian, all departments of your government are christian, and members of your state governments are all christian and pushing for a christian theocracy by going so far in some states to make it legal to discriminate against anyone that isn`t christian. The prison gangs are even all christian, the whole country is pretty much a theocracy as it is. The schools are even being pressured to have prayer in public schools. THERE IS NO ACTUAL PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANITY IN THE U.S. PERIOD. Especially when it is THE most widely held religion in the country. Get your head out of your ass.
When I was in high school her dad (or maybe it was the step-dad) came to our school to talk about his daughter's courage and even back then he framed her death as religious persecution.
grifters
The chick playing Rachel looks like a mix of Anna Kendrick and Kristen Stewart. She's really pretty.
i haven't seen the movie but she also seems like a charming actress too. yeah it's a crappy christian movie but from what i see in this review she seems to be giving a decent performance.
Yes, Masey Mclain Truly is.
"Well go be with him." Is a really hardcore line to say before shooting someone.
I don't know what's worse: a Pure Flix movie about Columbine, or that new Mark Wahlberg film about the Boston Marathon bombings? I sure hope to God that nobody makes a Sandy Hook movie any time soon...or ever.
Oh, yeah, I was bothered as soon as I saw the trailer. I'm sure the only reason Wahlberg agreed to do it was so he could buy a new house.. or pay the property taxes on the one he has now, because I'm sure taxes for people like him are a bitch.
I haven't seen the movie, can you elaborate on why the new Wahlberg movie is bad?
Wahlberg thinks he could have stopped 9/11 if he was on that plane. I think he did this movie to help fill that fantasy.
in the trailer for the Boston movie they show a scene where a Muslim teenager girl ask for her phone call while being questioned they ignore her she says I've got rights and the cop lady tells her you ain't got shit sweetheart. like seriously wtf?
Er... Bushwhacked!?
"Oh hey Brad posted a new epis-oh dear"
Really, Pureflix is taking a horrible tragedy and uses it in a religious movie? I guess the makers of this movie have no decency or shame. It's always great to see Snob destroy these religious movies.
Coming next year Pure Flix presents “The End Of Faith” a movie in which all Christians are put in concentration camps by the atheists and only an angel played by Kirk Cameron can save them
Great day *
"I guess the makers of this movie have no decency or shame." To be fair, they do admit that they have no shame in the title of the movie.
The main actress is pretty good. Also, I'm no expert on Columbine, but if this movie is accurate, Rachel was a sweet girl, even though it's unlikely she died specifically for her faith.
What kind of radio show reminds its listeners of Hitler's birthday?
WKKK?
Denver
Slow news day?
None that I listen too
Some of these movies make me mad, like voiceless. God's not dead and the sequel veered into self parody but this one here made me honestly disgusted.
I was in seventh grade when columbine happened and I still remember all the fear and shock of that day. It's an event that every millennial will share with their kids, just like 9/11 or the Oklahoma city bombing. The big difference is that those terrorist attacks and this event was that these kids could have gone to your school. Just two average teenagers who decided they wanted to live forever with infamy. It's outright disgusting someone would misrepresent the whole situation to make a quick buck and score faith points.
Was infamy really their motive, though? I usually find that a bit hard to believe.
This all kind of hits home for me. I was 14 when the shooting happened and this whole movie just seems so mean spirited in a way to take such a tragedy and use it for their own agenda.
My first reaction to this movie was "You should be...You should be pure flix."
fun fact rachel wasn't likely asked the question and eric and dylan's main factor in choosing victims was convenience in location she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
25:15 god I hate Alex jones....
*smash, smash, smash*
Crap!
Monkbot10
All rational humans that have heard of Alex Jones hate Alex Jones.
Meamishere i saw a guy with an infowars.com bumper sticker. Yes it was on a truck.
Alex Jones is awesome in a funny way.
Eren Jaegar I want to go to space!
To be fair to the film, footage of their "training" does have them saying things like "Its gonna be just like Doom." so the film might not be so much blaming videogames as much as pointing out factual things about their mindset that came up after the fact.
Does it give any OTHER reason for their acts? I didn't see it, so I'm curious.
Bill Jacobs I'm not entirely sure. haven't watched them myself, just remember hearing that clip specifically. obviously it was likely a combination of issues though, especially the bullying.
Piemanthe3rd Almost certainly, but I doubt video games was a factor at all. There's not really any evidence for that.
Bill Jacobs oh I agree, I don't think video games were necessarily a factor in them choosing to do the shooting, just that they connected one of their interests, in this case video games, to something they had already decided to do independent of the games themselves. The fact that they equated it to being "like doom" in no way proves the games were at all at fault.
Piemanthe3rd No, but in media, it's usually more of an implication, because including several references to violent video games was a conscious choice and you have to wonder why they did it. But not having seen it, I won't pretend to know more than that.
I'm going to be honest, the minute I saw the title I knew what it was. I felt my stomach drop
I went to high school with two of the actors in this movie. I remember them talking about working on a film but I didnt realize this was the actual movie until I spotted one of them. Damn. what a terrible way to start off your acting career.
Get ready for a shit ton of controversy
I give u props for having the guts to approach this sensitive topic
Inb4 copyright claim from the innocent filmstudio Pure Flix that's obviously being persecuted by another bully.
This time the message from the lawyers will be "don't come to school on april 20th"
***** Just cheer in every scene they are in.
This review has kind of raised a question in me. Brad, what are your thoughts on Lars Von Trier's Elephant?
Anthony Spence Gus van sant elephant
It's Gerry but with a school shooting.
I should of expected something alone those lines. Thanks very much for the response.
They need to put that quote on the box.
Anthony Spence Huh... I know it was a typo, but I WOULD like to see Von Trier's take on a school shooting.
Brad, I love you. I was literally trying to find a Midnight Screenings episode on this and failed. You are awesome!!!!
I think you and the Bible reloaded should do a crossover on a Christian movie
I remember when this happened and the book "She said yes" came out and even though I was in 8th grade and in a catholic school, I thought that this was incredibly tacky, exploitative, and disrespectful to the other victims.
I'm pretty sure the family behind this came to my high school once. They actually did go off on the idea of music and video games being the blame behind Columbine. Was sickening to hear.
I actually LIKE the fact that this movie focuses so much on Rachel instead of exploring the motivations of the shooters. Giving the shooters attention is exactly what encourages more shootings to happen, because they know if they kill people then they'll be famous and their life stories will be dissected to no end in the news, think-pieces, and movies. The life stories that SHOULD be told are those of the victims.
I do to, my problem and I'm guessing Brad's problem too, is that if they're going to make the killers 2D stereotypes, then the movie should have less scenes on them.
Honestly, the movie might have been a MILLION times better if they had like... All but ignored the shooters. Don't cut to them planning their attack, just focus on Rachel, basically have the shooters be background characters...
Then BOOM!
Except they DID "explore" the motivations of the shooters: apparently they killed people because they were racists who played too many video games and didn't get along with the popular kids.
It would have been so much more powerful if the shooters only showed up in the background until the shooting.
Okay I do agree that what these people did was evil, I believe that we can all agree on this notion. However there is far much more going through someone's head when in this state of mind, and just blaming it on Hitler and video games is honestly kind of a cop out. Exploring the mind of a killer doesn't encourage more shootings, hell if we didn't people would less likely be able to stop anyone in that state of mind before there's any serious damage done.
I will never defend people who committed horrible acts like these, that being said people in that state of mind who at the very least has done nothing wrong as of yet, needs mental help from anyone who can provide it whether it's a doctor or simply speaking to someone they are at least close enough to.
Point being, there is a giant grey-area that not everyone has answer for, but the more we understand the more we can at least try to stop things like this from happening.
That's be a really shocking ending, actually. Don't actually show the kids, or don't really point them out. Have a teacher call on Dylan once in class, or occasionally have a shot linger on them, but otherwise the movie's 100% about Rachel. Then at the end just show them walk up and shoot Rachel, then ask the question while she's down, cut to the news footage. Maybe for dramatic effect, show some news footage before the shooting. "We're getting reports of 2 gunmen in Columbine High School..."
The shooter who asked if she believed in god probably just wanted to have some one liner he thought sounded good while he was on his power trip.
Oh goodie! I'll get the popcorn! Been waiting a long time for this one!
I'm lying on my bed in the comfort of my home, and I still feel extremely nervous about this review.
"I'm not ashamed" - Exactly, that's the problem, you should be.
So long as pure flix keeps exploiting the beliefs of people while simultaneously pandering to them about how awesome their religion is we will always have the Snob and TBR.
Also the budgets of the movies are small, so it's not hard for their movies to make money.
I don't find it difficult to believe the Columbine murderers would ask a victim if they believe in God before killing them .I do take issue with Pureflix exploiting it for a movie about Christianity
If this movie was anymore tasteless it’d be diet water....
Look, if you want to make a movie about Rachel Joy Scott, by all means, make a movie about Rachel and her life. I have no problem with that and it's more or less a nice tribute to her. But good Lord, PLEASE don't try to involve the shooters. Yes, Rachel died at Columbine so obviously that would need some focus, but it feels so incredibly cheap and disrespectful to the shooters' families to have such a shallow fucking view on the their motives! "DARK CLOTHING AND GOTH MUSIC AND VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES AHHHH!!!" Also, didn't Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold want this to happen? In one of their tapes (someone can correct me if I'm wrong here), didn't they say something along the lines of "I wonder who will play us in movies about us?" You're essentially giving them what they wanted. There's no nuance to this at all, not that I expected any from a Pure Flix movie. I agree with pretty much everything Brad said.
I just hope they don't eventually try to make a movie about Christina Grimmie's murder (since she was a devout Christian). They'll probably try to make it look like she was killed because of her faith, though there's no evidence to suggest that. Pure Flix needs to just stay out of it when it comes to tragedies like this. I don't fault Rachel's family for this since they did lose their child, but I do fault the studio and its producers. It's tacky and exploitative.
Wil atleast this was about one of the victims than the columbine kids them self's so there that and the movie was cringe so they would likely hate that
Besides, I think that from Rachels point of view the attack must've come suddenly. So why not simply do that? Make a movie about Rachel and her teenage struggles.... And suddenly, those two guys from AV-class shows up with guns?! BLAM - The end.
It's confirmed ... God is a Cinema Snob fan
Before the christians attack you Brad, dis was a fantastic video. Just so you know.
I'm a Catholic and I enjoy watching his videos. With his reviews of religious movies being my favorites to watch.
redloiyu654jay If only there were more people like us.
There are Christians that like Brad and hate Pure Flix movies. You might even find an extremist that agrees with Brad.
I was raised Lutheran, still consider myself Christian, and I found this review to be amazing.
Dude, please. There are plenty of Christians who like Brad. Just because someone is Christian doesn't mean they're going to like Pure Flix movies.
At 11:13 "Um... Pureflix once released a movie that called for a militaristic call to arms to take over Washington..."
Why does that sound familiar all of a sudden?
r/agedlikemilk, I guess.
Loved the stinger. The character's reaction to the story on the radio was probably the same as the audience's!
There's actually a group called Rachel's Challenge. They spoke at my school back in the day and someone said they were trying to tackled the issues of bullying and school shootings. Well intentioned, but came across more as a deification of Rachel. It's no surprise that Rachel's Challenge is the girl's family and a family friend. It's understandable that they'd want her memory to live on, but like this film, it comes across as propaganda.
I love these reviews! Great job! Binge watching all of these.
I mean as a Christian, I think it’s fine to have a message about not being ashamed about your religion
Just don’t use fucking COLUMBINE as a backdrop
I couldn't help but notice how the movie spent most of its time on the young, pretty girl who has friends and who has rich parents that give her a damn car for her birthday. Meanwhile, Harris and Klebold are barely in it, you never see their parents, and they are usually getting the shit kicked out of them by bullies and jocks. The movie doesn't seem to think that matters, and it's just the vidya games that made them violent. I mean, the movie does a pretty good job of showing how pretty and wealthy students have great lives, and fat ugly poor kids are basically just roaches.
I didn't want to watch this but wanted to see it at the same time. So happy you did this.
I saw you talk about this in your gods not dead 2 screening.I cant believe you got around to reviewing it so quickly since it only came out late last year.
I HAVE BEEN BLESSED THIS DAY! PRAISE JEEBUS!
I'm only a minute into this, and I have a feeling this movie is going to piss me off more than God's Not Dead--especially since I know so many Christian groups still run with that story and Cassie's where she was allegedly killed for being a Christian; which is horseshit.
SirChubbyBunny I think god's not dead & god's not dead 2 are much worse movies than this one is. I find they're waaaaaaaaaaay harder to sit through without having a rage stroke.
Now that it's over, God's Not Dead is way worse in every sense of the word. I'm just waiting for them to do an exploitative shit show on the Pulse shooting now.
I live near Columbine and have since I was born, so the film's exploitation of the shooting is a bit more personal.
Don't give them any ideas!
Seeing how a Catholic school tried to do a haunted house based on Pulse, I wouldn't be surprised if they try to do something on the event or another event like the Boston Marathon bombings, Sandy Hook, or the Charleston church shooting.
Love your work been a fan for about 6 months and always watch your new videos and I'm slowly going through your other videos
Saw the title and screamed "YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Thank you, thank you, thank you! You're the best!
Unfortunately, that scene where Harris says "It's going to be like Oklohoma City, the L.A. Riots and WWII all mixed into one" may be the only accurate thing in this movie as it's a line taken from his court-mandated journal entries.
Love how it's 1999 and they're playing Halo
I'm just noticing how modern the students look for 1999 in this movie
dcapitation I also noticed that they had PlayStation controllers in their hands for game that came out on Xbox 2 years later
These are my favorite videos. Keep it up, Brad!
Damn! This was uploaded around the same time as the shooting in Monterrey, Mexico at a private school. God be with the families of those who lost their lives.
OMFG! I had no idea how big fundamentalist Christian's balls were! This is the first Snob video that left me feeling really awkward (and it wasn't because of him!)
A Cult of Personality. Cult of Personality. Cult of Personality......
"My God has a bigger dick than your God"-George Carlin
Yay! More Pure Flix! Lol love when Brad reviews these.
Oh thank god. I've been waiting for this for sooooo long.
Hell yes, been waiting for this since you guys mentioned the preview on midnight screenings!
For anyone interested
The "conversation" was not with Cassie, in fact the person they asked the "god question" to actually survived. On top of that, what they asked (allegedly) was "Do you believe in god" to which she responded (allegedly) "yes, no...I don't know" and Eric (or Dylan, I don't remember) responded (allegedly) "Fucking pathetic" and shot her.
The most annoying part about that whole thing is that they try to make a hero out of a pretty little spoiled chick (who did not deserve to be killed, don't get me wrong) who was credited (falsely) with nothing more than saying she believed in god, yet Daniel Mauser (A name I am willing to bet almost nobody knows or remembers) was a kid who was shot and killed trying to actually do something to stop or at least hinder the killers.
I guess that should be expected now, a pretty girl with a good smile is called a hero for doing nothing but a boy who risked (and lost) his life trying to save others is completely forgotten. No shitty flyleaf song for that kid. It's funny how the way society reacts to these massacres also kind of reminds us of why someone would hate humanity enough to carry them out.
Awesome vid as always, Brad! I hope to see a Cinema Snob review for "Dancin' It's On" at some point in the future!
drummr1313 I know he said at one point it would defibitwly be a Bob episode someday, maybe in the midnight screenings?
Konnie The Hero
Looking forward to it!
Finally! I've been looking forward to this review ever since you mentioned the trailer awhile back.
I watch every ad through all the way and download the apps because your videos really are worth the couple minutes to watch, install and uninstall
Oh dude! You really did it?!? Thank you! This was an epic review, though I feel bad for the torture you went through since it's Pure Flix.
Wait a minute, this isn't the Nightmare on Elm Street 3 review?
asnaes Yes, it is the best in the series.
I was wondering why it lacked Freddy and Dokken music. Now I get it. :p
2nd best in the franchise imo. My favorite is New Nightmare.
one of my favourite reviews! I love when Brad reviews these pureflix movies.
I really love the song Cassie by Flyleaf. It mentions Rachel in the song. I really like the way it is written. It definitely comes from a lot of passion.
11:13 - 11:29 Actually, War Room was made by the Kendrick Brothers not Pure Flix.
Yeah but other than that there is literally no difference between the two
I'm a devout Christian, and this film does honestly offend me to an extent.
I'm a Christian and I'm outraged by this movie
The car part made me cry.
never been so soon, just wanna say thanks for all the badass content!!!!