I'm surprised you didn't mention the scene with Barry and his dad. I hope you at least mention the ending with him, because I love that scene. So much genuine joy from his dad learning that Barry's finally moving towards his dream job.
Ahh the thing is, he just mentioned the wins from Disc ONE of zsjl. Since the scene you mentioned will happen near the end, I'm pretty sure he'll mention it in the part 2 of this video when it arrives :)
Fun fact: the soundwaves from Clark's death were in BvS too. Check the scene, they're there. Even cooler? Clark's death in BVS happened in the same exact minute as his resurrection, 2 hours and 38 minutes into the movie.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Joss reduced the Amazons to cannon fodder, Snyder treated them as warriors worthy of the task they were set.
The difference between Steppenwolf slapping the arrow away and catching it is a perfect show of this. Or how Steppenwolf threatens to claim Hippolyta as his bride after defeating her versus him calling her a "noble queen" and asking why she continues to fight, as if almost in awe of her tenacity. Whedon treated the Amazons as a joke and just had Steppenwolf walk all over them to show how tough he was (despite the pitiful way he ended up being beaten), but Snyder treated them with respect, even if they still ultimately lost. Throughout the sequence in ZSJL, you're rooting for the Amazons and it feels tragic when they fail, which is how it should feel after getting to know them in Wonder Woman and connecting with Diana.
When I heard the Amazons shout, “WE HAVE NO FEAR!” I remembered the time I was assaulted, and wished I could’ve shouted it at that jerks face instead of running. I had over a decade of martial arts experience, but I turned into a scared sheep when his hands touched me. It’s hard reminding myself that the fact I survived and got away makes me a strong woman, even if I didn’t fight back. I don’t know how to end this comment.
@@matureenough34 I only took karate for about a year many years ago, but one of the things I remember is from my first lesson. My sensei said 'The first line of defense is to run away. If you can get away, do so.' Which sounds like what you did, you saw an exit, and took it. Don't know if that's helpful, or comforting, or anything. You are strong.
This movie is SOOOOOOOO much better than...the other version. It takes its time to establish everyone, their motives, makes the villain more compelling and visually more interesting and they had the gal to cut what Barry does to save the day. Literally night and day and I really wish I had time to watch it in black and white. Still want to see how that looks. Just a very good movie.
Word of God: -Prior to HBO Max picking up the project, most of what people knew about this version of the movie came from Zack Snyder himself. Using the social media platform Vero, Snyder shared what his overall plans were for the original movie (and potential sequels) in bits and pieces, confirming which parts of the movie were his and answering questions left unanswered altogether. More specifically, he confirmed that Darkseid (or pre-godhood Uxas) was the primary antagonist in the "history lesson" flashback, rather than Steppenwolf, and that Aquaman and Wonder Woman killed Steppenwolf by impaling and beheading him, tied the resurgence of the Mother Boxes to the deaths of Superman and Doomsday, and that Martian Manhunter was intended to be revealed as Swanwick. This, in turn, meant that many of the differences were pretty well known among fans and web outlets who did their research, long before the Director's Cut was formally announced. -Post-release, Snyder offered some explanations to fan questions. One was that his original intent for the scene with Bruce and Martian Manhunter was supposed to be a Green Lantern, specifically John Stewart and that Hal Jordan (reprised by Ryan Reynolds, though not playing the version of the character from the 2011 film) would be a more distant mentor figure, but was vetoed. He also said that the reason Darkseid lost track of which world the Mother Boxes were left on was because he was gravely injured and their forces sent limping away, and upon returning to Apokolips had to fight a civil war for the throne (possibly the event hinted where Steppenwolf betrayed him), wherein their records were lost.
Ohhh, I love that last part that makes sense. So Uxas returned home and fought the war that made him Darkseid, but at the cost of all the data of his prior conquests.
So frustrating to see what got cut in exchange for "Whedon Quips" - Snyder is a dude with passion and vision, it's a shame his got all mixed up with a completely different style of writing.
Regarding John Stewart, he was meant to be played by Wayne T. Carr and a recently-released photo of him from the cut scene can be found on his social media.
“It’s been 84 years.” It’s finally here! So hyped for the rest of this! By far one of my favorite super hero movies! To be completely honest, it didn’t really even feel like a 4 hour movie I was enjoying it so much. The only part I didn’t really like was the lady’s singing aqua man out, felt like that dragged on a bit too long for me.
I wouldn't have really changed anything about the movie. But, the one cut i wouldn't mind? Cut to the next scene as soon as Bruce Wayne walks away during the singing. You get to have the singing to world build/add to the lore, but it doesn't overstay its welcome.
Yeah, that scene always made me feel uncomfortable. Like... that girl is sweet, but I'm getting some distinct "creepy, stalker vibes" from her as well. Also, how can any guy get married to that chick, and not feel completely uncomfortable every time Aquaman showed up in that town, to deliver fish?? If I were that guy... I'd have some issues with that...
my one pet peeve is the Wonder Woman theme, but everything else is simply perfection. Flash's theme, Cyborg's theme and the music that plays when Batman and Aquaman are fighting the Parademons are my absolute favourites.
Holy shit, that sword line triggers me to this day. It's such a awful line that didn't need to be reshot... Like wtf how did they think that was better or even something Bats would say???
I'm not attached to Zach Snyder's DCEU films, but on principle, I am happy that a creator got to release the film they wanted after getting stifled by personal tragedy, studio interference, and the clashing style of another director.
CinemaWins is like when Homer is a food critic and gives everything a great review, and I am here for it. I need this kind of relentless positivity in my life. Even when I disagree and don’t like a movie he likes, I still enjoy the reviews.
@@redagadanfar4660 Batman vs Superman, Suckerpunch (oh yea, you even forgot this one existed, huh?), 300 2 (another one of the "oh yea, this movie...existed") while they obviously make money, remember... Last Airbender also made considerable profits to dodge the "flop" label.
Life is weird....I'm very happy this channel exists to spread good vibes about movies that mean alot to different people....this movie has a special place in my heart..thank you Cinemawins....for everything....always there to balance out all the negativity in life....words can't say enough....so thank you..for everything
To me, there is far too much negativism spread throughout....... it gets really old and boring, that so many jump on the ‘let’s B|t€h about ...... everything’ band wagon. Reminds me of that old saying about .... it’s easier to spread negative views than positive ones.
6:50 a note about Ares being able to "defeat" Darkseid. Diana had said that he grows stronger according to the size of the conflict. In this case we are talking about a global conflict, with ALL the warriors of the earth (including a green lantern), against an army that decimates worlds. Imagine how much power boost the god of war had when he fought Darkseid
Anyone here who hasn't seen this version yet, set aside some time, and enjoy. It's genuinely amazing. I really didn't like the original, and then I gave Snyder's version a go and loved it.
I feel people regard this 5 hours slugfest as good only because the expectation is very very low after the original version... and that people want to create a villain to blame the whole situation on.
I’m waiting for it to air on a free channel or platform, would you know of one I can watch on. . It’s not even available on my xfinity demand yet, without paying like $60?
@@bohanxu6125 No, the Snyder cut is a pretty good Justice League movie. It balances action, character development, set-ups, and fan service pretty damn well, its visual design is at worst consistent and at best really damn cool. It certainly has some short-comings (namely Snyder's Superman is one of the worst ever put to screen which undermines some of the hype about him coming back and Ben Affleck's Batman still isn't really given a point to being part of the fight, plus the overuse of slow-mo and some elements where it could have been cut down a bit) but those don't ruin the movie. It has flaws, but it's greatest strength is that it a very unique feeling movie. While its plot elements and structure are familiar there's a vibe to this movie you just don't get from other big budget superhero films. Even if you don't think its good, you've got to admit its still at the very least more interesting than movies like Age of Ultron that recycle plot and tonal elements so heavily you feel like what you're watching is identical to any other superhero movie. Look, your opinion is your opinion, I can very easily see how this movie is a little too "Zack Snider-y" to appeal to everyone, that's a very legitimate critique, but don't start trying to invalidate peoples opinions because you don't agree with them, this movie has every bit of quality and entertainment to be considered, at the very least, "good".
@@ArnoldsKtm other videos tried to do it but failed. This channel tho, done it so well it is in the right format (instead of a like a small black box in the middle when full screen).
1:48 Classic Alfred kicking him when he's down😂😂😂😂😂😂 Honestly this combo was really great and both were great actors and they could've really done an awesome job, shame we didn't get to see more of it :(
Wait you do know that that's a spin on the original line? I can't tell if you know. But if you know, I'm sorry that I thought you didn't know. I'll stop know, I mean now.
7:19 Ok but think about it though. Which is more likely to be found, an artifact that's been placed on a pedestal in the middle of a temple that's being actively guarded or, an artifact that's just been tossed down some hole in the middle of a random patch of woods? There's a reason why Humanity's box was found last lol. Also cool thing about the general in MoS, is that when Clark approached the glass in the interview scene, everyone but Martian Manhunter backed-up
@@morro190 It took us CENTURIES to find the dead Pharaohs beneath the most OBVIOUSLY MASSIVE MAUSOLEUMS (pyramids) EVER BUILT!! I'm willing to forgive random holes in the woods being overlooked. I'm honestly amazed the Nazis, of all people, manage to stumble across this thing!
Missed win on how great of a build up to Darksieds first appearance. Having Dasaad just leave and giving a moment where all the parademons sense Darksieds presence and begin to bow just to have Darksied blindside Stepenwolf with his presence. Amazing
Thank you for doing this :) ZSJL is the definitive version and I'm so happy he was able to show his original vision. It's truly an epic movie. 8/10 imo.
Regarding adding "the" before superhero names, I think it's meant to make them sound like urban legends, like how "The Batman" and "The Aquaman" sound like folklore characters or something of that sort. It makes them sound more real by making them sound like something we would perceive to be myth in real-life.
I loved steppenwolf's armour because it sort of relates to the comics. So the new gods, from the apokolips (darksieid) and new genesis (high father), exist outside of mortal compression. When batman was examining a bullet Darkseid shot, to batman it looked like a different bullet everytime, like it was the bullet that killed his parents and the bullet that killed JFK. Steppenwolf's armour appear to be that nod, because it changes at his will. Looking like one thing then it changes into another.
Finally! Also Zack didn't rewrite anything, this is his movie, the original. The rewrites were done by whedon and we all saw how horrible that turned out. Also I hope there's more than 2 because he's done multiple videos for movies that are way shorter and this movie deserves a deep analysis.
Which is kinda weird because Whedon is a pretty good director. Though I suppose when you're working with someone else's material, things are going to end up janky.
Yes and no. Whedon was brought in before Snyder had to leave to work with him and help lighten the tone as the studio wanted it to be more like Avengers. This meant that some of the lines were written by Whedon as part of the original before he was brought back in Snyder's absence to make further changes. Now this version removed all the re-shoots and several scenes that were never originally filmed had to be filmed, some of these didn't have final scripts first time around so were written with the benefit of all that had gone on before and some scenes that had been shot originally in a lighter tone were rewritten and re-shot by Snyder.
Also, Wonder Woman did take a hit from the bullet spray at 3:00 She takes one to the right shoulder. Course she isn’t even injured but briefly you can hear her grunt at the hit.
Another win from this movie is the relationship between Barry and his father. It's shown so perfectly and creates a meaningful relationship between the two.
12:15 this has to be my favorite minor detail in the movie, you see Stephen wolf about to reach for his weapon and Diana with a simple head nod is almost goading him to try and grab it before she can attack. It's just this mental exchange between Warriors that I can appreciate, like a cowboy with his weapon drawn DARING the other guy with his weapon holstered to reach for his gun before the other cow boy shoots him lol and of course as Stephan wolf reaches for it she tackles him the minite he grabs it, just awesome
So am I the only person who genuinely LOVES that armor!? It’s like a spikey metal symbiote that constantly reacts to his emotions, his engagement in battle and just looks sick as hell… very alien and techy while also seeming low tech like just metal armor. I’m sick of standard alien tech we see too often, I like different stuff like that.
I freaking loved it. And can never keep my eyes off it. I was not a big fan of Steppenwolf's Design in BvS and especially not in Josstice League. I wanted the original back for the SnyderCut... even though I wasn't a huge fan of the design. At least he looked scarier in BvS. But then I saw him in the first trailers and how the armor moves. That's when I got it. It's a brilliant design and perfect execution.
Just watched this and I know it's not a pivotal shot in the movie but I wish you added a win for the AFSP sign "You Are Not Alone", clean homage to Snyder's daughter and to others watching. It being a sign but also a meaningful sign to viewers telling them they aren't alone. Touching
I cannot believe you made a reference to The Boys in this. I have sat through both current seasons of that show and I LOVE it. and I know EXACTLY what you're talking about. god damn is that show Brutal, and does not pull a single punch. it is shamelessly brutal and I love it.
Love it how they sometimes mixed the themesongs (like the fight with cyborg, diana, batman and flash). You get the Wonderwoman theme and than mixed with something quick for Flash.
When Bruce pick up Barry and they go in the car, when they go up in the highway, we can see a billboard wich says "You are not alone". The billboard is from AFSP
The best part about Flash breaking literally everything is that at this point, while Flash may have experience with using his speed, he doesn't QUITE have that SF Aura that most speedsters in the comics get, which is used to protect pedestrians and terrain (and the PSF Aura canonically counters the destructive power of the NSF and its Aura)
I also love that he moves so quickly that he can literally stop, fix his mistakes, then move on and continue saving the day, all with plenty of time before he's too late. That moment where he's saving the girl, while she's "death-sailing" through the air, but has enough time to grab a flying hot dog, so that he can feed the dogs in the petshop with it, and still catch her, to save her life, after taking a long look at her beautiful face to boot, is just trademark "Flash." Love it!
@@abrahammwiinde735 It would be worse if it were either Reverse Flash or Negative Flash, those are both connections to the NSF and would cause much more damage to the environments
The humans’ putting the box in a wood makes sense - a mate of mine explains that forests to medieval man was like, “you might never come out again of that wood, bro”. It’s a deep, dark, scary place and they’re sure no one will ever find it.
I can’t watch this video right now - too busy - but I’m really looking forward to it. I love when this channel is able to help me see what people liked about stuff I was just “meh” about. It’s way more fun to get an acquired taste with the help of a good critic than to never give something another try, in my opinion! 😉
What makes this version so muche better than the Theatrical Cut is actually that they do fight Steppenwolf instead of pure Rocky beating pieces of meat until Supes punches in. They do can fight, they do can match the challenge, but what makes Steppenwolf thrive here is way clearer. He's prepared to the fight in a way that they couldn't be, and when Clark comes he's the break-even point that makes the League win, like a last drop to make the cup overflow. Having most of them playing a role in his death and demise showcase it perfectly
4:20 this scene is a big reason for me why the Snyder cut is so so much better. The daughters of Themyscira show him your fear just gets me EVERY TIME but more importantly Steppenwolf sees them as warriors and adversaries even if he didn't break a sweat not just trying to make a hareem
10:32 The lighting comes down to the fact that Ray Fisher actually had red lights strapped to his face and chest during filming to make them appear more natural on other surfaces than if they were done entirely of CGI
I've been waiting for this. Thanks a lot for doing this! Still can't believe there was a day where WB denied that this version exists. The truth finally came out.
Well, this version of the movie didn't exist. There were a lot of elements of it filmed, but Zack still got a huge budget to recut it, add and alter visual effects, extend the run time, and even bring a bunch of the cast back for reshoots. I think it's important to acknowledge this isn't the original "Snyder Cut" of the film, this was Zack Snyder being allowed to remake Justice League to be closer to his original vision for the movie, as well as add or alter his own elements that snuck into Whedon's movie that fans may not have appreciated as much as he thought they would.
@@charliecoke7396 there were no reshoots. Only additional shoots (which is only the epilogue) and the rest of the budget was for completing the VFX and also alter some of the VFX to the original (from the theatrical versio ). Zack confirmed that there were no additional shoot except that knightmare scene at the end.
@@paleygoldberg9729 The movie's in 4:3 because it's closest to the IMAX aspect ratio, and they literally changed the aspect ratio of the video accordingly. A lot of UA-camrs probably wouldn't go that much of an extra mile
I think my favorite little moment is when the humans bury the box. It's like the king knew his society couldn't be trusted to guard the motherbox for perpetuity. Shows a real wise leader that was able to unite humanity to fight evil
Joss Whedon gave us THE AVENGERS, but the Russo Brothers gave us something better And because Whedon tried to make JUSTICE LEAGUE the same way he made THE AVENGERS, he was unable to give us something fresh That's why Whedon is no longer worthy to helm something this big anymore
You really think Whedon actively sought out to step up and helm JL? No. WB looked at who did the Avengers movies and wasn’t busy doin em anymore, threw cash at the guy and gave him a mandated list of things to do. (Main one of which was make the movie 90 minutes long) Also the reason Whedon’s not getting work has nothing to do with the flop this movie was and everything to do with how much controversy the guy’s been involved with SINCE this movie released.
I must be one of the few who like the 2017 version too. But then I’ve not been into the whole Superhero bit, very much at all. Probably related to me being a senior citizen. Now my sons really liked this and so do my grandsons.
@@slcRN1971 I'm also not saying that you shouldn't like Josstice League. if you like it then like it. I just think that Justice League is better then Josstice League
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the genius of the applebee's joke that was made, bravo sir, bravo! genuinely made me have to pause the video from laughing so hard
Not gonna lie, but I would of loved a fully edited super long cinemawins video on this super long cut. It would of matched the movie so well man I’m sad we didn’t get it, but my good sir, you are but one man with kids and a life. I love you and this channel I couldn’t blame you less. Can’t wait for part two!!!
I have to point out, Zack didn't rewrtie anything except for the epilogue Knightmare/Martian Manhunter scene. Literally everything else was written and shot BEFORE Joss came in. Whedon rewrote the script, so any differences between the two is the result of Whedon's rewrites, not Zack's.
People seem to forget that everything basically already existed, and whedon just brought them in for reshoots. Snyder just finished the effects cuts edits etc and properly polished it
Was clicking back to home on UA-cam but saw this last second out of the corner of my eye and immediately searched for it. Banger before I’ve even watched a minute of it. I can tell
Wonder Woman crouching looked awesome, so I don't know what you mean about saving people not always looking cool. Woman was breakdancing faster than full auto gunfire and blocking shots with her back to them.
@@slcRN1971 No, no. Go back and watch. Complete control the whole time. Never lets the momentum get away from her, excellent form the entire way through and she stops perfectly at the end. It's just full awesome.
@@slcRN1971 true but there's also something slightly inhuman about the sheer speed in which she does it. it's not like Flash whom we almost always see doing his thing through his pov. she moves faster than an average human but slow enough that you can see what she's doing. it's fearsome in a way.
I know there is already a lot of research around the movies done but about the workout routine joke. Some actors and actresses take steroids to get to to form, which is something we should not praise to much because it supports unrealistic standards. Thanks for the CinemaWins video, it really is a lot more fun likeing things!
Apparently, The Flash was delayed because the head of Discovery, who owns WB now, wanted reshoots to make things appear more connected. So maybe hope is still alive that we’ll get to see this version of these characters again?
From all the info taken from the merger, they likely made reshoots happen and delay the film to make it even better. I hope this is true. And I heard that Henry Cavil was signed a 6 film movie, hope that is also true.
You forgot to win the billboard that says "You are not alone" to raise awareness for people with depression to get help and that Zack Snyder put in due to his daughter taking her life
Thought you would defend the humans just burying their motherbox but even you failed to see it was a good idea. If you’re trying to keep them safe from the enemy while also trying to avoid the power greed that humans have, you don’t put it on a pedestal. It’s smart.
I am going to rewatch the zsjl movie before watching this and also wait for part 2 and possibly 3 and watch them back to back I love this honestly I'm so glad we did get this in the end
Barry: What are your superpowers again? Snyders Batman: I'm rich. The real batman: I'm a genius, in a peak physical form, have so much willpower that it scares planet Oah and and scared of NOTHING... being rich is just my day job.
SteppenWolf IS the same design from bvs lol the difference is in bvs lex is seeing it projected by the liquid metal projection stuff on kryptonian ship, like in MoS when jorel gives clark the history lesson, thats why its that dull tone
This channel is based on the love of all movies, so I’d love to see a video on an Adam Sandler film. Think I’d be an interesting video (preferably Don’t mess with the Zohan or Happy Gilmore)
I feel you could repeat wins from the original video, treating this video as a stand alone feels deserved and the moments that shine in the original shine so much more in this version.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the scene with Barry and his dad. I hope you at least mention the ending with him, because I love that scene. So much genuine joy from his dad learning that Barry's finally moving towards his dream job.
He said he wasn't going to rewin wins from Josstice, and that scene wasn't changed that much
Job job scene??
I dont remember this part at all lol
@@paulrozario5516 Job job scene!!
Ahh the thing is, he just mentioned the wins from Disc ONE of zsjl. Since the scene you mentioned will happen near the end, I'm pretty sure he'll mention it in the part 2 of this video when it arrives :)
Fun fact: the soundwaves from Clark's death were in BvS too. Check the scene, they're there.
Even cooler? Clark's death in BVS happened in the same exact minute as his resurrection, 2 hours and 38 minutes into the movie.
That is actually lit
Wait really
@@littledudefromacrossthestr5755 yup!
Yeah I watched that the other day and was like, oh it's in here too
@Kelvin W the Ultimate edition. The theatrics cut is 2hrs and 31mins long.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Joss reduced the Amazons to cannon fodder, Snyder treated them as warriors worthy of the task they were set.
The difference between Steppenwolf slapping the arrow away and catching it is a perfect show of this. Or how Steppenwolf threatens to claim Hippolyta as his bride after defeating her versus him calling her a "noble queen" and asking why she continues to fight, as if almost in awe of her tenacity. Whedon treated the Amazons as a joke and just had Steppenwolf walk all over them to show how tough he was (despite the pitiful way he ended up being beaten), but Snyder treated them with respect, even if they still ultimately lost. Throughout the sequence in ZSJL, you're rooting for the Amazons and it feels tragic when they fail, which is how it should feel after getting to know them in Wonder Woman and connecting with Diana.
When I heard the Amazons shout, “WE HAVE NO FEAR!” I remembered the time I was assaulted, and wished I could’ve shouted it at that jerks face instead of running. I had over a decade of martial arts experience, but I turned into a scared sheep when his hands touched me. It’s hard reminding myself that the fact I survived and got away makes me a strong woman, even if I didn’t fight back. I don’t know how to end this comment.
@@matureenough34 I only took karate for about a year many years ago, but one of the things I remember is from my first lesson. My sensei said 'The first line of defense is to run away. If you can get away, do so.' Which sounds like what you did, you saw an exit, and took it. Don't know if that's helpful, or comforting, or anything. You are strong.
@@ser132 Thank you.
Yep
I'm so glad this is here I have been waiting since the release of the movie. So hyped
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@@twitteruser2056 when you get 1k subscribers. Then you can say that
Same :)
SAME!!!
This movie is SOOOOOOOO much better than...the other version. It takes its time to establish everyone, their motives, makes the villain more compelling and visually more interesting and they had the gal to cut what Barry does to save the day. Literally night and day and I really wish I had time to watch it in black and white. Still want to see how that looks. Just a very good movie.
Everything about this movie was amazing to me. I'm glad Snyder was able to get his version out there.
I enjoy this movie wayyyyyy more than I expected to.
Thank the internet for bullying WB
As The Russian Badger once says
"Bullying gets results"
@@carbinecryo30716 they tried to bully the fans down, now the merger is giving them what they deserve :'D
Speaking facts
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Word of God:
-Prior to HBO Max picking up the project, most of what people knew about this version of the movie came from Zack Snyder himself. Using the social media platform Vero, Snyder shared what his overall plans were for the original movie (and potential sequels) in bits and pieces, confirming which parts of the movie were his and answering questions left unanswered altogether. More specifically, he confirmed that Darkseid (or pre-godhood Uxas) was the primary antagonist in the "history lesson" flashback, rather than Steppenwolf, and that Aquaman and Wonder Woman killed Steppenwolf by impaling and beheading him, tied the resurgence of the Mother Boxes to the deaths of Superman and Doomsday, and that Martian Manhunter was intended to be revealed as Swanwick. This, in turn, meant that many of the differences were pretty well known among fans and web outlets who did their research, long before the Director's Cut was formally announced.
-Post-release, Snyder offered some explanations to fan questions. One was that his original intent for the scene with Bruce and Martian Manhunter was supposed to be a Green Lantern, specifically John Stewart and that Hal Jordan (reprised by Ryan Reynolds, though not playing the version of the character from the 2011 film) would be a more distant mentor figure, but was vetoed. He also said that the reason Darkseid lost track of which world the Mother Boxes were left on was because he was gravely injured and their forces sent limping away, and upon returning to Apokolips had to fight a civil war for the throne (possibly the event hinted where Steppenwolf betrayed him), wherein their records were lost.
Well said
I didn't know that last part. Very facinating.
Ohhh, I love that last part that makes sense. So Uxas returned home and fought the war that made him Darkseid, but at the cost of all the data of his prior conquests.
So frustrating to see what got cut in exchange for "Whedon Quips" - Snyder is a dude with passion and vision, it's a shame his got all mixed up with a completely different style of writing.
Regarding John Stewart, he was meant to be played by Wayne T. Carr and a recently-released photo of him from the cut scene can be found on his social media.
I love the “Justice continues on disc two” thing. Something nostalgic about it.
The LOTR Extended Editions did the exact same thing. When the 1st disc ended it said, " The Story Continues on Disc 2."
“It’s been 84 years.”
It’s finally here! So hyped for the rest of this! By far one of my favorite super hero movies! To be completely honest, it didn’t really even feel like a 4 hour movie I was enjoying it so much. The only part I didn’t really like was the lady’s singing aqua man out, felt like that dragged on a bit too long for me.
I wouldn't have really changed anything about the movie. But, the one cut i wouldn't mind? Cut to the next scene as soon as Bruce Wayne walks away during the singing. You get to have the singing to world build/add to the lore, but it doesn't overstay its welcome.
Yeah, that scene always made me feel uncomfortable. Like... that girl is sweet, but I'm getting some distinct "creepy, stalker vibes" from her as well. Also, how can any guy get married to that chick, and not feel completely uncomfortable every time Aquaman showed up in that town, to deliver fish?? If I were that guy... I'd have some issues with that...
You could’ve spent half an hour just gushing over Tom Holkenborg’s score. It’s so good.
my one pet peeve is the Wonder Woman theme, but everything else is simply perfection. Flash's theme, Cyborg's theme and the music that plays when Batman and Aquaman are fighting the Parademons are my absolute favourites.
@@sunsetman22 let's not forget the Justice League main theme
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Joss Whedon: "Sorry, guys. I didn't bring a sword."
Zack Snyder: "My turn!"
Holy shit, that sword line triggers me to this day. It's such a awful line that didn't need to be reshot... Like wtf how did they think that was better or even something Bats would say???
@@_Hyphema_ i could hear Kevin Conroy's Batman from TAS saying it. Not this one though.
Yeah, but this line from WW doesn't trigger you right?
ZSJL WW: "I belong to no one"
@@iammatthews what's so triggering about it
I'm not attached to Zach Snyder's DCEU films, but on principle, I am happy that a creator got to release the film they wanted after getting stifled by personal tragedy, studio interference, and the clashing style of another director.
What I liked about this movie is how much it avoided similarities with the MCU
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@@bonkers9137 : yep, those who refuse to see any good in anything ....... will not change their stance because it’s who they are!
@@slcRN1971 nah, they just have this hate boner to Zack, imagine making fun of a dead daughter just because they don't like his film lmao
I swear, this is every Snyder hater ever lol
CinemaWins is like when Homer is a food critic and gives everything a great review, and I am here for it. I need this kind of relentless positivity in my life. Even when I disagree and don’t like a movie he likes, I still enjoy the reviews.
even flops like Snyder's have positive elements, and cinemawins is the fair criticism that will point out the gold among the shit.
@@MrKlausbaudelaire name one flop Snyder has then. All his films are huge and successful
@@redagadanfar4660 Batman vs Superman, Suckerpunch (oh yea, you even forgot this one existed, huh?), 300 2 (another one of the "oh yea, this movie...existed") while they obviously make money, remember... Last Airbender also made considerable profits to dodge the "flop" label.
@@MrKlausbaudelaire BvS is a literal cult classic. So is Sucker Punch. Form ur own opinion bro
@@MrKlausbaudelaire and Zack didnt direct 300 2 tho
I’m so glad Zach Snyder got to complete his vision for justice League
Complete? That was just the start of his version, he isn't going to compete it. Watch the movie first
This was going to be the beginning, but WB being an ass
@@WuSezer True. We still need those last two Justice League movies
@@thenoirknight5729 yes I'd also love to see it. His movies and vision in general looked great
Sort of he wanted Justice League to be a trilogy
Life is weird....I'm very happy this channel exists to spread good vibes about movies that mean alot to different people....this movie has a special place in my heart..thank you Cinemawins....for everything....always there to balance out all the negativity in life....words can't say enough....so thank you..for everything
To me, there is far too much negativism spread throughout....... it gets really old and boring, that so many jump on the ‘let’s B|t€h about ...... everything’ band wagon. Reminds me of that old saying about .... it’s easier to spread negative views than positive ones.
6:50 a note about Ares being able to "defeat" Darkseid. Diana had said that he grows stronger according to the size of the conflict. In this case we are talking about a global conflict, with ALL the warriors of the earth (including a green lantern), against an army that decimates worlds. Imagine how much power boost the god of war had when he fought Darkseid
Anyone here who hasn't seen this version yet, set aside some time, and enjoy. It's genuinely amazing. I really didn't like the original, and then I gave Snyder's version a go and loved it.
I had told a cousin tonjust watch it as in a series , because he freaked out about the 4hr run time lol
I feel people regard this 5 hours slugfest as good only because the expectation is very very low after the original version... and that people want to create a villain to blame the whole situation on.
I’m waiting for it to air on a free channel or platform, would you know of one I can watch on. . It’s not even available on my xfinity demand yet, without paying like $60?
This *IS* the original
@@bohanxu6125 No, the Snyder cut is a pretty good Justice League movie. It balances action, character development, set-ups, and fan service pretty damn well, its visual design is at worst consistent and at best really damn cool. It certainly has some short-comings (namely Snyder's Superman is one of the worst ever put to screen which undermines some of the hype about him coming back and Ben Affleck's Batman still isn't really given a point to being part of the fight, plus the overuse of slow-mo and some elements where it could have been cut down a bit) but those don't ruin the movie.
It has flaws, but it's greatest strength is that it a very unique feeling movie. While its plot elements and structure are familiar there's a vibe to this movie you just don't get from other big budget superhero films. Even if you don't think its good, you've got to admit its still at the very least more interesting than movies like Age of Ultron that recycle plot and tonal elements so heavily you feel like what you're watching is identical to any other superhero movie.
Look, your opinion is your opinion, I can very easily see how this movie is a little too "Zack Snider-y" to appeal to everyone, that's a very legitimate critique, but don't start trying to invalidate peoples opinions because you don't agree with them, this movie has every bit of quality and entertainment to be considered, at the very least, "good".
The madlad actually put the whole video in a 4:3 aspect ratio. respect
Can you explain why?
@@ArnoldsKtm other videos tried to do it but failed. This channel tho, done it so well it is in the right format (instead of a like a small black box in the middle when full screen).
1:48 Classic Alfred kicking him when he's down😂😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly this combo was really great and both were great actors and they could've really done an awesome job, shame we didn't get to see more of it :(
This isn't the Justice League movie we wanted
This is the Justice League movie we deserved
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Egh
I think we deserve better.
It's really not. We deserved a better movie than both versions.
@@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez we?! HAHA
"Robot eyes. Machine hearts. Can't lose"...I thought I loved you as much as I could and then I am reminded of how little I know. What a great line!
Wait you do know that that's a spin on the original line? I can't tell if you know. But if you know, I'm sorry that I thought you didn't know. I'll stop know, I mean now.
I am so happy this film exists! It's truly a unique experience and one of my all time favorites
7:19 Ok but think about it though. Which is more likely to be found, an artifact that's been placed on a pedestal in the middle of a temple that's being actively guarded or, an artifact that's just been tossed down some hole in the middle of a random patch of woods? There's a reason why Humanity's box was found last lol.
Also cool thing about the general in MoS, is that when Clark approached the glass in the interview scene, everyone but Martian Manhunter backed-up
Considering how often we find random artifacts tossed in holes...pretty good. The script was crap in this story.
@@morro190 And what about how often we don't find anything in random holes in the ground? Didn't think it through, did ya?
@@morro190 It took us CENTURIES to find the dead Pharaohs beneath the most OBVIOUSLY MASSIVE MAUSOLEUMS (pyramids) EVER BUILT!! I'm willing to forgive random holes in the woods being overlooked. I'm honestly amazed the Nazis, of all people, manage to stumble across this thing!
@@jacob4920 hey...you know this universe ending thing.....lets not design our entire civilization around it. Instead lets toss it in a hole.
@Dagupan Ghyle its dumb. Zach Synder is dumb and he made a redundant movie. Avengers did it better in every category.
Missed win on how great of a build up to Darksieds first appearance. Having Dasaad just leave and giving a moment where all the parademons sense Darksieds presence and begin to bow just to have Darksied blindside Stepenwolf with his presence. Amazing
Thank you for doing this :)
ZSJL is the definitive version and I'm so happy he was able to show his original vision. It's truly an epic movie. 8/10 imo.
9/10.
7/10 imo felt it could have been shorter
Regarding adding "the" before superhero names, I think it's meant to make them sound like urban legends, like how "The Batman" and "The Aquaman" sound like folklore characters or something of that sort. It makes them sound more real by making them sound like something we would perceive to be myth in real-life.
Flash running back in time was the best part of this movie, really showed flash’s power
Your videos always leave me with such a better feeling about movies in general. Thank you
I loved steppenwolf's armour because it sort of relates to the comics. So the new gods, from the apokolips (darksieid) and new genesis (high father), exist outside of mortal compression. When batman was examining a bullet Darkseid shot, to batman it looked like a different bullet everytime, like it was the bullet that killed his parents and the bullet that killed JFK. Steppenwolf's armour appear to be that nod, because it changes at his will. Looking like one thing then it changes into another.
Finally! Also Zack didn't rewrite anything, this is his movie, the original. The rewrites were done by whedon and we all saw how horrible that turned out. Also I hope there's more than 2 because he's done multiple videos for movies that are way shorter and this movie deserves a deep analysis.
Which is kinda weird because Whedon is a pretty good director. Though I suppose when you're working with someone else's material, things are going to end up janky.
4 parts, says so in the description.
Yes and no. Whedon was brought in before Snyder had to leave to work with him and help lighten the tone as the studio wanted it to be more like Avengers. This meant that some of the lines were written by Whedon as part of the original before he was brought back in Snyder's absence to make further changes.
Now this version removed all the re-shoots and several scenes that were never originally filmed had to be filmed, some of these didn't have final scripts first time around so were written with the benefit of all that had gone on before and some scenes that had been shot originally in a lighter tone were rewritten and re-shot by Snyder.
can't help but laugh at deep anal
@@raccoonwizard That is just saying that this video is about the first 4 parts of the movie. Not that there will 4 parts to this.
Dear CinemaWins,
Your reviews are always a win and they brighten my weekend. Thanks so much for your awesome work.
Also, Wonder Woman did take a hit from the bullet spray at 3:00
She takes one to the right shoulder. Course she isn’t even injured but briefly you can hear her grunt at the hit.
Another win from this movie is the relationship between Barry and his father. It's shown so perfectly and creates a meaningful relationship between the two.
12:15 this has to be my favorite minor detail in the movie, you see Stephen wolf about to reach for his weapon and Diana with a simple head nod is almost goading him to try and grab it before she can attack. It's just this mental exchange between Warriors that I can appreciate, like a cowboy with his weapon drawn DARING the other guy with his weapon holstered to reach for his gun before the other cow boy shoots him lol and of course as Stephan wolf reaches for it she tackles him the minite he grabs it, just awesome
So am I the only person who genuinely LOVES that armor!?
It’s like a spikey metal symbiote that constantly reacts to his emotions, his engagement in battle and just looks sick as hell… very alien and techy while also seeming low tech like just metal armor.
I’m sick of standard alien tech we see too often, I like different stuff like that.
Yes! that armor on Snyder's Steppenwolf is always a win, and make him look very intimidating!
I freaking loved it. And can never keep my eyes off it.
I was not a big fan of Steppenwolf's Design in BvS and especially not in Josstice League. I wanted the original back for the SnyderCut... even though I wasn't a huge fan of the design. At least he looked scarier in BvS. But then I saw him in the first trailers and how the armor moves. That's when I got it. It's a brilliant design and perfect execution.
Your reviews are awesome! Much better feeling hearing about how good a movie is than how bad or cringey it was.
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@@twitteruser2056 U r spamming, it's irritating
"I vibed with someone once. We have two kids now" One of the greatest love stories in two sentences!
Just watched this and I know it's not a pivotal shot in the movie but I wish you added a win for the AFSP sign "You Are Not Alone", clean homage to Snyder's daughter and to others watching. It being a sign but also a meaningful sign to viewers telling them they aren't alone. Touching
There’s so many good things in this movie and I’ve been waiting for this since movie first came out.
I cannot believe you made a reference to The Boys in this. I have sat through both current seasons of that show and I LOVE it. and I know EXACTLY what you're talking about. god damn is that show Brutal, and does not pull a single punch. it is shamelessly brutal and I love it.
5:08 - Lee's gonna have a field day when he sees "The Batman". That movie is gonna get the "two-parts" treatment.
omg this video is a dream come true i was just telling my brother how much i wish youd do this
I absolutely loved this superhero epic. Wish it was the version we got the first time but glad we got it at all
Love it how they sometimes mixed the themesongs (like the fight with cyborg, diana, batman and flash). You get the Wonderwoman theme and than mixed with something quick for Flash.
I love how you made the UA-cam video in 4:3 format too. Makes it natural to keep Zack Snyders vision too.
Man i waited for this video so long, it maybe thousand of times i checked this channel if this video was uploaded
When Bruce pick up Barry and they go in the car, when they go up in the highway, we can see a billboard wich says "You are not alone". The billboard is from AFSP
"saving lives doesn't always look cool" counterpoint that was cool as frick
The best part about Flash breaking literally everything is that at this point, while Flash may have experience with using his speed, he doesn't QUITE have that SF Aura that most speedsters in the comics get, which is used to protect pedestrians and terrain (and the PSF Aura canonically counters the destructive power of the NSF and its Aura)
I also love that he moves so quickly that he can literally stop, fix his mistakes, then move on and continue saving the day, all with plenty of time before he's too late.
That moment where he's saving the girl, while she's "death-sailing" through the air, but has enough time to grab a flying hot dog, so that he can feed the dogs in the petshop with it, and still catch her, to save her life, after taking a long look at her beautiful face to boot, is just trademark "Flash." Love it!
Imagine flash trying to help in MOS but caused more damage due to luck of SF aura
@@abrahammwiinde735 It would be worse if it were either Reverse Flash or Negative Flash, those are both connections to the NSF and would cause much more damage to the environments
The humans’ putting the box in a wood makes sense - a mate of mine explains that forests to medieval man was like, “you might never come out again of that wood, bro”. It’s a deep, dark, scary place and they’re sure no one will ever find it.
I can’t watch this video right now - too busy - but I’m really looking forward to it. I love when this channel is able to help me see what people liked about stuff I was just “meh” about. It’s way more fun to get an acquired taste with the help of a good critic than to never give something another try, in my opinion! 😉
Darkseid mentions he turned 100,000 worlds to dust. The Kryptonian ship has knowledge of 100,000 worlds. Continuity!
Thank you! I got this on 4K disc because i genuinely love this movie, it wouldn't exist if not for the internet supporting its release.
What makes this version so muche better than the Theatrical Cut is actually that they do fight Steppenwolf instead of pure Rocky beating pieces of meat until Supes punches in. They do can fight, they do can match the challenge, but what makes Steppenwolf thrive here is way clearer. He's prepared to the fight in a way that they couldn't be, and when Clark comes he's the break-even point that makes the League win, like a last drop to make the cup overflow. Having most of them playing a role in his death and demise showcase it perfectly
Dude I looked up the other day to see if you had a video on the Snyder cut! Glad it’s here now.
4:20 this scene is a big reason for me why the Snyder cut is so so much better. The daughters of Themyscira show him your fear just gets me EVERY TIME but more importantly Steppenwolf sees them as warriors and adversaries even if he didn't break a sweat not just trying to make a hareem
Ezra Miller as Flash is just so immensely perfect. I love him so much.
10:32
The lighting comes down to the fact that Ray Fisher actually had red lights strapped to his face and chest during filming to make them appear more natural on other surfaces than if they were done entirely of CGI
I've been waiting for this.
Thanks a lot for doing this!
Still can't believe there was a day where WB denied that this version exists. The truth finally came out.
Well, this version of the movie didn't exist.
There were a lot of elements of it filmed, but Zack still got a huge budget to recut it, add and alter visual effects, extend the run time, and even bring a bunch of the cast back for reshoots. I think it's important to acknowledge this isn't the original "Snyder Cut" of the film, this was Zack Snyder being allowed to remake Justice League to be closer to his original vision for the movie, as well as add or alter his own elements that snuck into Whedon's movie that fans may not have appreciated as much as he thought they would.
@@charliecoke7396 there were no reshoots. Only additional shoots (which is only the epilogue) and the rest of the budget was for completing the VFX and also alter some of the VFX to the original (from the theatrical versio ). Zack confirmed that there were no additional shoot except that knightmare scene at the end.
@@TheWeepingSoen Oh, alright thanks for correcting me, I completely misunderstood then.
@@charliecoke7396 no problem my man!
@@TheWeepingSoen Didn't they literally redo the coffee scene.
COULDN’T WAIT FOR YOU TO DO THIS ONE!!!
This video's actually in 4:3. Wow. I'm actually super impressed with that level of commitment
Why? What's the joke?
@@paleygoldberg9729 The movie's in 4:3 because it's closest to the IMAX aspect ratio, and they literally changed the aspect ratio of the video accordingly. A lot of UA-camrs probably wouldn't go that much of an extra mile
I think my favorite little moment is when the humans bury the box. It's like the king knew his society couldn't be trusted to guard the motherbox for perpetuity. Shows a real wise leader that was able to unite humanity to fight evil
Joss Whedon gave us THE AVENGERS, but the Russo Brothers gave us something better
And because Whedon tried to make JUSTICE LEAGUE the same way he made THE AVENGERS, he was unable to give us something fresh
That's why Whedon is no longer worthy to helm something this big anymore
It’s not even the Whedon cut, he just did what Warner Bros forced him to do.
You really think Whedon actively sought out to step up and helm JL? No. WB looked at who did the Avengers movies and wasn’t busy doin em anymore, threw cash at the guy and gave him a mandated list of things to do. (Main one of which was make the movie 90 minutes long)
Also the reason Whedon’s not getting work has nothing to do with the flop this movie was and everything to do with how much controversy the guy’s been involved with SINCE this movie released.
@@Slimshadow457 he could have said no. Fuck Whedon. Not for Josstice League. Just in general.
@Jean Sanchez Not only him. Gal Gadot and Ben Affleck were treated like trash on set when he took the reins.
@Jean Sanchez The other part if the blame definitely goes to the corporate greedy micromanaging meddling entity that is WB.
can't wait for next week :) thanks, cinemawins
just finished watching Justice League last night for a second time. and enjoyed every minute (for people who are confused not the 2017 version)
I must be one of the few who like the 2017 version too. But then I’ve not been into the whole Superhero bit, very much at all. Probably related to me being a senior citizen. Now my sons really liked this and so do my grandsons.
@@slcRN1971 sorry for the confusion but I’m not talking about the 2017 version.
@@slcRN1971 I'm also not saying that you shouldn't like Josstice League. if you like it then like it. I just think that Justice League is better then Josstice League
No way, I searched for zack Snyder justice league cinema wins yesterday. and you uploaded it now!
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the genius of the applebee's joke that was made, bravo sir, bravo! genuinely made me have to pause the video from laughing so hard
This video looks weird on an ultra-wide monitor...
Great video as usual! Can't wait for part 2.
The Amazons are incredible, their commitment to their duty is commendable! I love the unwavering courage they set forth.
Thanks for the shout-out to us juggalos lol, ngl when cyborg said fuck the world I instantly started singing the song lol.
Saw this on HBO Max didn't realize the home release was multi disc.
Crazy early 2000s vibes with changing the vhs for Titanic or the disc's for MGS 1
Will mention this in part 2 but I cannot stress enough how much I appreciate the disability stuff with Cyborg. Like it’s all just so good
I love that you are covering the physical media version.
I am so glad that you're finally doing this movie 😊Thank you so much. You have no idea how happy it has made me
So happy you're finally doing this. I've been dying to see you win this since it came out last year. Great vid, man!
Not gonna lie, but I would of loved a fully edited super long cinemawins video on this super long cut. It would of matched the movie so well man I’m sad we didn’t get it, but my good sir, you are but one man with kids and a life. I love you and this channel I couldn’t blame you less. Can’t wait for part two!!!
Man I have been waiting for this one and you are not disappointing me in the SLIGHTEST.
The fact that the aliens couldn't find anything buried as quickly as they could find them in a lecture hall in a dome shaped place
I cannot believe that WB said no to this awesomeness but yes to that atrocity from 2017.
That Paul Smecker namedrop makes me want an Everything Great About The Boondock Saints
I have to point out, Zack didn't rewrtie anything except for the epilogue Knightmare/Martian Manhunter scene. Literally everything else was written and shot BEFORE Joss came in. Whedon rewrote the script, so any differences between the two is the result of Whedon's rewrites, not Zack's.
People seem to forget that everything basically already existed, and whedon just brought them in for reshoots. Snyder just finished the effects cuts edits etc and properly polished it
Was clicking back to home on UA-cam but saw this last second out of the corner of my eye and immediately searched for it. Banger before I’ve even watched a minute of it. I can tell
Wonder Woman crouching looked awesome, so I don't know what you mean about saving people not always looking cool.
Woman was breakdancing faster than full auto gunfire and blocking shots with her back to them.
I would hazard a guess that she isn’t looking supremely cool the whole time.
@@slcRN1971 No, no. Go back and watch. Complete control the whole time. Never lets the momentum get away from her, excellent form the entire way through and she stops perfectly at the end.
It's just full awesome.
@@slcRN1971 true but there's also something slightly inhuman about the sheer speed in which she does it. it's not like Flash whom we almost always see doing his thing through his pov. she moves faster than an average human but slow enough that you can see what she's doing. it's fearsome in a way.
I'VE WAITED SO LONG TO WATCH YOUR TAKE ON THIS!!!!!
I’ve been waiting for this for so long!
I know there is already a lot of research around the movies done but about the workout routine joke. Some actors and actresses take steroids to get to to form, which is something we should not praise to much because it supports unrealistic standards. Thanks for the CinemaWins video, it really is a lot more fun likeing things!
Apparently, The Flash was delayed because the head of Discovery, who owns WB now, wanted reshoots to make things appear more connected. So maybe hope is still alive that we’ll get to see this version of these characters again?
From all the info taken from the merger, they likely made reshoots happen and delay the film to make it even better. I hope this is true. And I heard that Henry Cavil was signed a 6 film movie, hope that is also true.
You forgot to win the billboard that says "You are not alone" to raise awareness for people with depression to get help and that Zack Snyder put in due to his daughter taking her life
Thought you would defend the humans just burying their motherbox but even you failed to see it was a good idea. If you’re trying to keep them safe from the enemy while also trying to avoid the power greed that humans have, you don’t put it on a pedestal. It’s smart.
Ah. Finally, it's here. This man takes so long. Great work, man. Can't wait for the next part.
I think at one point he thought let's just wait for the anniversary of the movie release
I am going to rewatch the zsjl movie before watching this and also wait for part 2 and possibly 3 and watch them back to back I love this honestly I'm so glad we did get this in the end
5:11 I’m absolutely shocked when he mentioned that’s JEREMY IRONS, SCAR HIMSELF
Barry: What are your superpowers again? Snyders Batman: I'm rich. The real batman: I'm a genius, in a peak physical form, have so much willpower that it scares planet Oah and and scared of NOTHING... being rich is just my day job.
and that's why I love Snyder's Batman more: he gloats less.
SteppenWolf IS the same design from bvs lol the difference is in bvs lex is seeing it projected by the liquid metal projection stuff on kryptonian ship, like in MoS when jorel gives clark the history lesson, thats why its that dull tone
This channel is based on the love of all movies, so I’d love to see a video on an Adam Sandler film. Think I’d be an interesting video (preferably Don’t mess with the Zohan or Happy Gilmore)
I am SO glad you did this video!!!! It has a been a long wait for it, but so worth it!!!
I will forever be grateful for the existence of this movie
it's ironic that the humans made the least effort to protect the motherbox and yet it's the last motherbox that steppenwolf got his hands on
I love your videos, thanks for keeping me entertained for all this ❤️
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I feel you could repeat wins from the original video, treating this video as a stand alone feels deserved and the moments that shine in the original shine so much more in this version.