Seiko skx mod parts are not all the same
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- I am quickly learning there is risk in mixing mod parts. Yes they will work together, but will you be happy with the fit? I need help finding the best insert for Homers watch. Thanks for the help mod pros.
Just in case people are still wondering what crystal to pair with the DLW slopped bezel inserts, their website actually lists the compatible crystals in the description of each insert. Slopped inserts need to be paired with a domed or type E crystal, and will not work with the flat / factory OEM crystal.
yeah definitely need the domed crystal with the domed insert. such a nice finish when you get both perfectly fitted
Don’t freak out, Rob! Perfection is required in watch modding, so it’s a good trait to have. I’d think the more established mod sites, with the best parts will be able to tell you if certain parts work together. You probably do have to figure out what works with what. That’s why people charge to mod watches! Hang in there. You’re doing great.
For me the best solution was a DLW fully lumed *flat* ceramic bezel insert paired with the crystaltimes CT037F crystal. The crystal is designed to have no inner bevel whatsoever, meaning that there is no gap at all between it and the bezel insert. Worth having a look!
My understanding is the flat bezel inserts are for stock crystals and flat sapphire replacement crystals, the arched inserts are for double domed sapphire crystals that need that little extra space. In fact I believe that if you have a double domed crystal you have to use the arched insert.
Thank u so much. Helped my understanding and confidence preferring so much. I confirmed this statement with compatibility specs on DLW.
Bit late, but "12 style" bezel is called a dual time bezel 👍
Honestly when you briefly put that OEM Pepsi insert into the bezel it looked best with that PADI dial. That's what I would use. Cheers.
For perfect fit with curved inserts, use specialty no-bezel crystal from crystal times.
That Murphy bezel looks nice! 😍
Rob please put links to where you sourced your parts, it would help us. Looking for mod parts for my Ray 2
I just did my first watch MOD using a Heimdallr and had exactly the same experience. I also had a larger gap like you have on this watch between the bezel and the watch body hence leaving the larger gap between the bezel insert and the crystal? In my case I am suspicious of the Heimdallr tolerances over the Namoki parts that I fitted. Homer has a very good eye in my opinion the bezel insert matches the dial beautifully. Keep up the great work on the channel much appreciated.
If every modded watch had a flush bezel I think it would be boring. I used rubber cement on top of the 3M adhesive strip and it raises the bezel a bit. At first I was upset with my mistake but now I've grown to like having the insert towering above the bezel and glass. It makes it look more 3- dimensional and adds character.
One second closer, do crystals only for the skx007. They have a 'vlad' crystal. Wow. The red off it is amazing. Enough to catch your eye, but not enough to obscure.
Their bezels are like Murphy's. The precision is near perfect.
I have a 013, which I understand is a different model, but I ordered a submariner bezel with ceramic insert from yobokies. They fit ok aethetically, but it won't stay on. They sent me a replacement which did not fit either.
On my 007, I ordered a ceramic insert from dlw, but I see the same problem you see with it being concave up so now I had to order a domed crystal.
Namoki is best. Buy there Crystal, Bezel & Insert for it all to fit properly. Always will be a slight gap.
The Seiko divers stock bezel insert and crystals still have that slight gap between the crystal and the inner bezel. I find it a little amusing when it comes to mod and this shows up still, some are surprised and do not like the look like it wasn't on the stock watch before. I get it, but most angles it doesn't matter and not that noticeable.
That being said, and it takes some experimenting or at least asking others who know what to use to minimalize the bezel/crystal gap, is to find the crystal to match your bezel type. It's preferred to order all your parts at the same time so you have all the parts to do your mod from start to finish without stopping. BUT, it may be better to order the crystal last or at least after you have the bezel insert of your choice so you know what crystal cut is best to match so you minimize, if not eliminate altogether, the bezel/crystal gap.
I've found Crystal Times to have a lot of choices that accommodate just about any bezel insert and get the look and fitment you are looking for.
As with your Homer watch issue. I really believe it comes to maybe getting a new crystal versus finding a new bezel.. I feel maybe the bevel cut around the crystal and how it all sits in the case and sort of just at or just under the bezel line will always leave that slight gap. Might be easier to look for a crystal to accommodate the bezel insert of your choice instead. As such, I still feel Crystal Times may have the most selection and variety of crystal cuts and profile that will match the bezel insert. They specially make some that are meant to fill and eliminate the crystal/bezel gap.
It's called "Dual Time" style.
Watch every vid you put out!!! Whatever it may be. I might be more of a knife guy than watch guy so this is good news to me!🍻👍👊
Over thinking this. Skip the inner bezel search. You've got a crystal that seems to fit the desired bezel insert, and a fancy crystal press, yeah? Swap the crystal and move on.
Keep his crystal and fit a bezel insert to it later, for another watch.
I suppose that’s an option. Feels weird popping out a good crystal though.
Well, so long as it doesn't crack or shatter, it just becomes inventory, right? I dunno, but it's like you said, everything has to fit correctly and if an insert is not easily available, then the crystal is "wrong" in that sense.
I suppose it depends on the timeline for when the watch needs to be done.
Good point. I will run the idea by Homer.
My theory is that some bezels are created to fit better with different crystals. Maybe some crystals have a higher concave to the dome and need higher clearance in the bezel to account for it?
Long Island watch sells flat lumed ceramic bezel inserts. That's what you need for that watch. A sloped bezel insert won't work with that crystal.
Is the murphy bezel really bidirectionally clicking? Or is it just without the spring so its a friction bezel?
Yes friction
You can specify a sloped or a flat bezel insert but must also consider which sapphire you will be using.
Thanks for drawing attention to the non-compatible issues on components. I also appreciate the Comments by Subscribers / Viewers. I will be working on modifying SKX013. Want to change to change to sapphire domed crystal + curved bezel insert + coin edge bezel. I believe that best path would be to a single mod supplier and so I can (if necessary) properly address any issues with same.
"They have to be a certain way or it's gonna drive me crazy..."
OMFG Yes!!! Bro, I know exactly what you mean.
That SKX looks beautiful.
Fit is everything in aftermarket parts. And the costs add up fast buying these parts. Please tell us what is a bad fit. Color-wise, staying in the same color but darker. So I'd go with a darker blue bezel that just frames the dial color - looks more subtle and unified
DLW has the black Dual Time insert in flat but not with lume. LCBI does have a black dual time lumed insert that's flat. I got one for my 013 from them.
That’s why DLW recommend their double dome crystal. I like the flat crystal and flat insert. Yes, parts should be well integrated or it looks jimmy rigged. Yobokies might have the insert you’re looking for but good luck sifting through his tedious Photobucket. I don’t have the patience for it. Ask the Seiko Mods Facebook group. I’m sure you’ll get a lot of LCBI responses, but somebody likely has an idea that might work for you.
Go w Namoki! I like the stainless bezel insert by far. The crystal change (Crystaltimes) would fill the concave which is made for the higher dome. Check Daggaz
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I purchased some coin edge bezels that just don't seem to fit the SKX correctly. I won't name the supplier because maybe I'm using the correct installation procedure although I have not had any problem with other aftermarket bezels or re-installing OEM bezels. Get them on and they just dont turn.
You put it on backwards
Homer's watch is going to look awesome! I agree the flat insert is better -great attention to detail Rob. Thank you for sharing this one :)
Thanks. It’s nice that Homer is patient with my ocd. At some point I will stock a decent amount of parts.
@@RandomRobReviews If he is willing to wait why not wait until LCBI has more stock?- thiers looked the best :)
Think you are right. Homer wants it to be perfect just as I do.
Hey Bob, thanks for making this. I'm new into modding and have so far stayed away from sloped bezel inserts entirely because of this issue. Have you ever figured out what bezels or crystals you're supposed to use with the sloped inserts? Thanks and best wishes
What bracelet is this?
That's not con-cave. It is con-vex or tapering up or outward. Most bezel rings taper out or upward. I would guess the crystal needs to be thicker. I have seen some as much as 1.5mm thicker. I don't like it because they usually do this using hardlex or standard crop glass. I can't imagine making the glass protrude outward beyond the bezel using plain glass. Sapphire, maybe. Just my guess because I have done a few. I do agree with "Geary" be;ow/ I was never a big fan of Pepsi/coke etc bezels but, that blue and red pepsi bezel did look VERY good. Maybe Homer saw this?... And, when you held up the 2 dome crystals, one seems to have the cut area showing thicker than the other? measure EVERYTHING.
I like the one-mod-per-month plan. I might have to follow your lead and do that too. I have a yobokies Oris 65 homage dial and hands, but I have no idea what watch or parts to use as a base. Any suggestions?
Check out the one second closer bezels
Hey. Nice video... Where are you buy this dial ? Thanks
It would be nice to get all parts from one site, all mod sites have different parts and styles.
If I had the money and the time, I would start a store and stock all the main brands.
Great video. New subscriber.
Great video. Thank you.
I bought a coin edge bezel from namokimods, for my srp777 but after mounting it on (i had to press with my body weight) the bezel action is so stiff i'm afraid i'm gonna break the spring bars . I then used some ballistol for lubrication and it's a bit better but is still very hard to turn.
I emailed namokimods and they told me to take it out and inspect the gasket , the o-ring, but i didn't wanna risk scratching my watch or ruin the bezel doing that. The bezel looks great but i can't stand the fact that it doesn't work like it should.
what do you guys suggest? did you have similar experience ?
P.S. I took the bezel out twice, eventually, and the gasket looks good but the bezel action is still terible !
Has your bezel action gotten better? I was just about to order the same bezel because I don't know of any other place that has one in stock. But I just saw your comment and I'm starting to second guess my decision.
@@jwags24 Jared Wagner no, it hasn't!
I'm waiting for namokiMODS to respond to tell me what to do next.
I want it to be replaced or repaired.
random rob responded on a different video where i've posted the same question about this issue and said that it happened to him on couple of times and he thinks this might be happening because of tolerance between manufacturers
This Happened to me with a coin edge bezel from Long Island watch. It was extremely tight. Very stiff, barely turned. I had to buy a bezel removal tool just to get it off the case. Mark sent me a new bezel and it works perfectly fine. He said the other one was probably "out of round". Good luck
You think the black insert is better looking than blue insert?
Homer wants black 12 hour lumed insert. Just want to find one that fits little closer to crystal then the DLW does.
Hello, i just want to know the bezel for Skx007 is good fit for Skz211 or not.
Can you help me to clarify ?
u try crystaltimes c37cis with the sloped bezel insert.. they seem 2 have a perfect insert 2 crystal alignment.. no gap just smooth transition
on my stock skx, the crystal sits about a quarter mm? below the bezel. If I run my finger nail from the bezel to the crystal it noticeably drops down.
how did you make the bezel turn both ways?
isn't LCBI pretty much "it" for lumed bezel inserts? I am looking to MOD a Samurai with a GMT style bezel insert myself, I like the feature ( I work at an airport). With that said I think the gap might be best addressed by changing out the crystal for the taller one from crytaltimes. If it were my watch I would go with the metal insert
DLW has some, but not for the Samurai.
Erik Lind Turtle bezels fit the Samurai but you need to use Turtle inserts. Gives you plenty of options
Super nice review, thanks!
Can you do a review about bracelet?
With all the modding now did you find a better press?
Yes I think so, have not done a crystal yet. It worked great for pressing a Murphy bezel on though. Will show soon.
How about some links to the modding stuff you're referring to.
Which bezels have the best action?
To me, you're right to dislike ridges between adjacent surfaces. Perhaps if you source all from one supplier, if possible?
Where can I buy the padi seiko dial please thanks.
It's the Chrystal, not the bezel.
Which company has the coin bezel with polish edges it is perfect will be good with pepsi ceramic insert
Dlw and one second closer have nice coin edge
Put a ct37cis sapphire from crystaltimes n a a sloped insert n done
I have had good fit and finish with Namoki mods. For that mod I believe you need a double domed crystal and not a flat crystal.
Need a higher crystal
Dr seikostein on ebay but from Poland try that