Louis C.K and Shane Gillis - The Left and Donald Trump
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The only way to fix America is to vote Kanye
Haha yo chill chill chill
Ye will bring back slavery
I might have considered it if he could've figured out how to get on the ballot correctly. He was too late on his filing and ended up running for VP for someone he didn't know in California and for the wrong political party! 😆
Thats a very disgusting thing to say. You a russian?
Kanye / Caitlyn 2024 ! 🤡🇺🇲🤡🇺🇲🤡🇺🇲🤡
"Louis C.K. talks in front of Shane Gillis"
8:08 Kind of a monologue, yeah. But that’s some high praise he gave Shane.
Idk if you've seen the whole series of episodes, but there's a lot of good back and forth. Louis just happens to be talking more during this clip.
This is like a clip of a 4 part 6 hours podcast series. What the fuck do you have a guest on a podcast for if not to have them talk?
@@johncreighton44 this is what a civilized discussion between two people who disagree sounds like.
If you think this is Louie getting actually mad or upset, God only knows the kind of conversations you have, it sounds like you're the one in an echo chamber if you can't talk to someone like this.
@@bbluva20Ok. Calm down. Do you need to do a J?
What do you mean Gay? WHAT DO YOU MEAN MARRIAGE???😂😂
Far-leftists in a nutshell.
Funny Louis being all “All sides are the same.” while Shane rebuts with “Yeah but the left is crazy lol.”
And Shane's right
But the no platform racist mtg, gym Jordan, George Santos GOP is sane. Lol
@@honuman39 no keep going, you sound normal
Sarah Palin.
@@honuman39 You sound super heated for no reason, bro.
lol "both sides".
The problem feels like everyone wanting to be right about everything and not conceding that they may be wrong and can meet in the middle. It is working as designed
Too many type As in this country. Like admitting you are wrong somehow makes you look lless competent. I love admitting wrongdoing because no problem was ever solved if the source of the problem wasn’t addressed first.
meeting in the middle isnt always right. in fact it often isn't. its fallacy of argument to moderation
@@ScottyNapaa You’re right, meeting in the middle practically eliminates the best possible outcome for solving a problem because the middle keeps the problem solver in a box……..but to make your point by saying “its fallacy of argument to moderation?” Did u snag that out of textbook? Are you going to a smart college and you’re on the debate team? I went to dumb college and got a masters and I can’t figure out what those words put together mean….lol…. See now I just looked it up. Couldn’t you just have said, “it’s the fallacy of middle ground,” or, “it’s the fallacy of false compromise?” You know, for the idiots, morons, jackasses, and the like? Because there waaaay more dolts reading these comments than the intelligent.
@@curtismcdonald6838 i dont know. im just an old chuck of coal myself.
i actually briefly considered which term to use. i might have chosen its most formal for if i call it by that it might get the most accurate results when entered in a google query.
plus i dont know that fallacy of middle ground or false compromise is all that much more intuitive than argument to moderation. they probably all need a google if one isnt familiar with them.
@@ScottyNapaa Wow, I can tell you’re an old chunk of coal. For the most part, your syntactic use of grammar to make your point is almost flawless. In other words, you write well. Tough to find anyone under 30 killing it in the area of writing and grammar. Also, love the Norm MacDonald reference. My top of the line favorite comic dead or alive.
I didn’t know Louis was gay.
Yes, but It’s more macro than that. He’s a pervert, I.e., generally sick and dark.
He’s a degenerate so I’m not surprised
I knew
You break into MY house?
You suck MY dinky?
You call ME gay?!?! 😡😡😡😡😡
Watch his special 2017. He basically said the only reason he's not gay is because he's old now.
Shane's pushback at 3:59. Louie got too into his own soliloquy to remember that Americans like Monster truck rallies. Helicopters (especially ones with retractable wheels) are COOL.
Two great comedians! I luv this clip, these 2 talking politics (can;t go well?) but it does "go well". 2 crazy rouge comedians talking calmly, even more so than the paid political proffesionals .Shane holds his own in a respectable way, doesn't bow down to the MASTER>
@@thebostonbrawler1nah. The whole thing is cringe
@@drew7155I don't know, it was pretty hilarious. Two comedians joking about that time someone tried to assassinate Andrew Jackson and he ate the gunshot and then beat the guy nearly to death. I mean.. you use "cringe" in your vernacular, a history/comedy podcast isn't gonna be for people like you.
That's just you and your retard friends
I’m a liberal and have voted democrat in every election since I was able to vote. I absolutely love Shane Gillis. Funny is funny and it doesn’t matter which side of the aisle you land on.
@overlordfemto7523 WTF are you talking about?
Lol he thinks Chris Christy is a normal guy 😆 🤣
I'm proud of Shane making it so far considering his condition with his face.
he has overcome so much
It just nicked him.
"Irish Face"
This was from the shows where they talked about presidents for six hours. Was a good listen honestly Id recommend it
I’ve listened to it multiple time. Absolute classic podcasting moment
Louis' knowledge of presidents was pretty impressive
@@Project0061him talking about Nixon, Reagan and JFK and all the stories he brought up from it are just fascinating. Louis is a fantastic storyteller and especially what he gets at with the game show parable of wanting to win/know what I’m singing about.
It’s one of my favorite podcasts ever. All 6 hours are worth watching in order. They’re both a lot smarter than people give them credit for
I thought it was boring. They are just regurgitating factoids and American propaganda.
I love those interviews where the guest listens to the host monologue for an hour and still feels the need to interrupt when the guest tries to talk.
Louie was the guest you dummy. This was from Shane’s podcast. Listen to the whole thing, it was a lot more back and forth than just this clip shows.
Louie was the guest
You'll never get one of the two sides to admit they are affected the same neurosis as the other. That's how the dance of projection keeps going, the unstable people on side need the unstable people on the other to justify their fixation. It's a mutual psychological relationship none of the sides can admit to
I guess it’s a coincidence that the left happens to he correct about every issue in todays politics, neurosis aside.
You can’t be serious hahaha
I don’t believe in the right left political paradigm illusion, but to say the left is correct about everything…unbelievable statement.
A true folie à deux situation
@@TheCokeworth there is no "correct" in politics. "Correct" only applies to measurements of quantifiable natural phenomena. For anything else, all we can have are opinions.
I am also on the left, and I also believe our opinions are better on many issues -not all mind you- but I never forget they are just the expression of my worldview, moral sensibilities and personality.
One of my closest friends for the past three decades is conservative, I know very well by now what he values, with some effort I can see the world through his eyes, and I see all of his opinions making sense from his perspective, and being "correct". But still, they are only opinions
@@marcodallolio9746 or it can just be that the left’spolitical prescriptions are actually in accordance with fact and empiricism, and the right doesn’t even strive for truth.
He's a result of a system that does not work, not social media.
False Dichotomy. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Using "how I order from a smoothie place" as a metaphor for political orphanage is unintentionally hilarious.
Yes, we are all individuals but on a macro scale, it's 50/50. Sort of but close. It can't be both. So, both sides are going to need to find a common ground for this shit show to ever work.
That's the word I've been looking for; liberty. Liberty is important and people forget that. I've been trying to describe it every other way but it's simple. Democracy and liberty is why America SHOULD work.
Individual liberty, individual rights. Not group rights. Groups aren't a unit, a person is. The smallest minority, and the ONLY minority that can have rights, is the individual. Individual rights=LIBERTY. Group privileges = TYRANNY.
That means jackshit. Who has the most power? The rich, people you people keep fighting each other instead of having common goals. Individualized you're far more easy to step on
The only place I can find genuine level headed analysis of American politics is by comedians. What a time to live in.
There are plenty of level headed political commentators, but nobody listens to them because they're boring.
We dont want to be "informed" we want to be "entertained" so we listen to comics on a podcast and figure as long as they're talking about major issues, it counts as being informed, lol.
@@zacharychristy8928 that was pretty good. Definitely agree
Modern day Jesters. People who make fun, or funny, of human concepts (like politics) have a seriousness about them. A holiness about them.
Court jesters always told the truth.
Do you think that’s maybe a you problem? Imagine getting your political analysis from comedians 😂
That Gillis face always gets me haha
Dudeeeeee when was this??? Was this a podcast??? This is amazing!!! Wow
Look up Louis ck Shane Gillis presidents. They did 4 episodes about the presidents
Mccusker only on ep 1 cause old lou said were not doing this with that kook
@@BlastinRopethe other guy with Shane literally added nothing except exclamations of disbelief every 10 minutes
@@strangebrew1231 link?
I don’t think this is from the Matt and Shane secret podcast. This was something from Louis I think.
Edit. I was wrong it was the tail end of part “whatever it was.”
Louie DEFINITELY voted for the half dead guy
Duh
@@Kpmg12 As a comedian, I figured he would at least still have some dignity. He said something along the lines of “he hated every second of Trump as president”. C’mon Louis….
@@gunkanjima3408 regular people doing better makes rich people who talk into a microphone for a living big mad.
Do you realize you spend all this time talkingshit about a guy who doesn't care if you jacked off. Meanwhile you love all the people who crucified you. I like your comedy but you are a fucking asshole
@@commissarofsubversion1885 👏👏👏
The long and short of it is People's "sides" are more important than their country:
It seems that the majority of Americans would rather see America destroyed than see it endure & thrive if thats in the hands of THIER so-called 'enemies'
Imagine being a comic and having Louis fucking ck give you praises and talk to you like a normal guy.
This is the best hype man with the way he tells the fox news dad story.
I wish in the presidents podcast they would have talked about Biden lol
We were about 2 years into Biden already, so they had plenty to talk about
I paint New Yorkers with the same broad brush they paint everyone else with.
That’s okay, New Yorkers run America.
That’s so cool
Was waiting for the Donnie impression 😂
"I said, wow, what a big room."
That's a really intelligent conversation.
The last 15 seconds summed up thoughts that I never thought I could put into words.
Sounds like there’s a lot of flies in that room
The Middle - where all good ideas go to die.
This doesn’t mean anything
what?
@@jaydeattsone bird, two rightwings.
@Dystopian63 ok... I get that perspective, but when you say "middle," are you talking about the concept of compromising?
@@jaydeatts the middle, in American politics is capitulation. There is only one bird with two right wings. Neither party has anything to do with the middle and certainly not the left. There is no left in America. Just woke ringers and un woke ringers. Op our parties into any other democracy and both a right wing.
Murica really is a funny place to watch from outside 😂
What podcast is this from?
MSSP ep 393
Louis is very smart and insightful, but damn does he like to hear himself talk.
What happens when you are basically always the top dog in the room. Happened with Jordan Peterson on his podcasts.
@@asmith587huh?
Louie is the funniest man alive but politically he is a moron.
@@drew7155When you’re very successful, you like to hear your own voice. What about that was difficult to understand?
He's not that smart. He once said that gold was a stupid investment that people could just decide that is worthless one day, because it's just a shiny metal.
Trump got in because we were all sick of the Bush/ Clinton/ Cheney/ Obama thing that's been going on since JFK got smoked.
Why did you include Obama in the kabal? I remember him coming out of nowhere.
Drumpf got in because a huge portion of this country is mentally challenged, easily fooled, and automatically believe Fox News when they open a segment by telling you that you're supposed to be angry about what they're about to tell you. They can't think for themselves.
@@dankbank7424 He didn’t come from a political dynasty but he is firmly entrenched in the same stream of neoliberal horsesh!t of the last four+ decades
@@ragnakakI think him, like trump wanted to change things, but both of them got entrenched in the same bullshit that dems and republicans have been doing for years. Both Obama and trump became standard dem and republican presidents
@@BloatedJam Obama was a Senator for one of the most corrupt states in the Union, at the time. You don't get to be Senator by playing the game straight.
It makes me chuckle thinking about Louis being one of the people pouting like a child when Trump won. Whether or not Trump winning was good or bad, the reaction from the left will always be one of the more entertaining moments in my life time.
That's what made All in the Family so great; even if you totally disagreed with Archie, you still could love the guy.
Shane looks like Brian Peppers in that picture.
Your the man now dog!
Both sides complain when they lose
Yep 2016 Democrats-Russia stole the election!!! 2020 Republicans-stop the steal !!!!
To be fair, only one riots and storms the Capitol at a set time because their figurehead winds them up.
@@BurmaJ One day of riots vs. the democrat BLM Antifas rioting and attacking people based on race for almost a year. Democrats will always be worse, the modern brown shirts.
@@BurmaJ to be actually fair, that entire event is fake because we now know the media and government lied to us about every single thing regarding that stupid Jan 6th bullcrap.
There, Mr. NPC, I fixed it for you.
@@BurmaJSo far
Is this a podcast? Does Louis CK have a podcast?
This is a clip from a 6 hour, 4 part episode of Shane Gillis' podcast all about the history of US presidents.
i think this is from 'mat and shane's secret podcast', theres like 6 hours of podcast with them and louis talking about the presidents, all gold
I would watch this all the time.. If I could watch this.!!
Louis definitely a campaign volunteer for Chris Christie
The problem is that Louis is kind of doing an inversion of what he criticizes here: ascribing to people categorically a practice that not all of them do. I know both progressives and Trump supporters who are not at all performative do not push people to the other side. I think the mistake Louis is making is thinking that the performative ones _are_ the group, which isn't accurate in the case of either of them.
Yeah. Progressives are the same people they've been since the 2000s antiwar, prochoice, climate change.
Trump supporters are middle to lower-middle class white America, as well as some of Latin and black America.
They just wanted positive change in these impactful sectors they've been involved in which is primarily industry. And that's what trump promised. Hilary didn't promise that.
I hope I meet a progressive or a Trump supporter like you describe one day.
@@junked5214 cum
@@junked5214 you probably have, and they just didn't make it their entire personality
the takeaway is that the pushing phenomenon is way more popular now than ever before
it's a new thing, it's common, and it's dumb
All I heard was "real progressivism has never been tried" and "I got everything I voted for and I don't know why it's blowing up in my face."
Lol not the first time louis has talked crap about Seth meyers
This is a fantastic conversation Louie hit on some shit , damn.
These are salesman tactics. "We need a 'normal' conservative." Wow, how deep.
Nobody wants that. Why would a rightwing person listen to what a leftwing person is telling me what I need?
12:38 Absolutely based! Oh, I’ma mark this day, because I have finally LEARNED from a lefty! Well said, Louis 👏
Normal conservatives got us to a society with a lot of sad & confused people that are being convinced that they should castrate themselves.
Fuck normal conservatives. Fuck “things are too good, open the borders while I beat off” Louis ck too.
you didn’t listen to anything he said
@@sunfish9341 oh, didn't I? Too bad I'm not paid to impress you, or I might have tried harder
It's smoke and mirrors. Louie's bullshit thesis is that Trump isn't a "real" conservative. You don't get to define that, Louie.
@@QuartuvLarryyou sound extremely unintelligent
Is this the same guy that runs ImNotNorm?
Very interesting to listen to years later.
Absolutely phenomenal dialogue
Eh it’s ok. Louie is mad annoying.
Yeah ground breaking.
Louis is just using gross salesman tactics to sell his ideology. He's really mad because Trump exposed the left and said their true intentions out loud.
Louis wants to go back to saying dumb stuff like "your sound of humanity" to sell his destructive ideology
Extra-ordinary indeed
You're gay
Amazing how a bias can create these huge blind spots to the way we rationalize subjects & behavior. You cant see yourself doing the same thing you criticize or may be against others doing. Or it may be just our own selfishness that creates these blind spots in the first place.
Its one of the reasons I think Louie is one of the best at his craft, he attempts to wade in to that blind spot.
Its crazy that one of the best political discussions Ive heard in years came from two comedians lol.
Lol it's a cringe shit show. Not one laugh
Props to Shane for listing to that nonsense.
"Some things I think are very conservative, or very liberal. I think when someone falls into one category for everything, I'm very suspicious. It doesn't make sense to me that you'd have the same solution to every issue."
- Louis CK about 15 years ago.
It's called "pragmatism". Most comments seem to be people trying to apply their ideology to the conversation rather than giving Gillis and CK a fair listen. I am certain they are pragmatic and don't really give a crap about dems or repubs, but policy.
Well because then louis policy opinion are sometimes wrong snd bad takes lol
@@JR-zi9vjBeing wrong on some policy is better than being one-dimensional ideologically. At least in the former, you’re using critical thinking.
Crazy how Louie thinks he's describing the right but just doesn't grasp he's talking about him and his
Cyclically lol
Donald Trump would buzz his supporters with a helicopter?
C'mon, Louis.
Louis really likes to talk.
I think loves _listening_ to himself talk even more though.
This was the the end of this podcast. He was rapping it up.
he’s a fucking comedian
He’s good at it
Almost like it’s his fucking job or something, why you listening is the real question
Louie sounds like a media guy
Chris Crithe fact he still touts obama says it all
Louis seems to be talking around the "preside" verb. The President is essentially the lead of the national executive office. He's the Chief EXECUTIVE. THE BOSS.
A boss with very little actual power, executive orders can be overruled by courts, acts of congress are above the executive.
What he said flew right over your head. He’s saying that the job is one of great power, but was never meant to be about power, but being a good steward of the nation for the short time you’re in office. People who are obsessed with power and themselves are the worst fit for the job. George Washington, when given the opportunity to become king, relinquished the presidency. Trump, when fairly voted out, tried desparately to hold onto it. Conservatives are anything but conservatives these days, if they prefer a Trump to a George Washington.
@@Earthad23in theory. In practice it’s quite the opposite. Over the last 25 years, more and more power has been concentrated in the presidents hands.
@@SKa-tt9nm It’s a constant tension.
Louis is a know it all😂😂😂
You sound insecure lol
@@musiclifelove insecure that mr rub and tug is a bat shit lib🤣🤣🤣
@@WTAFnews That may be true, does not change the fact that you sound insecure calling someone a know-it-all just because you know very little, lol
@@musiclifelove know it all, meaning he’s speaking so confidently yet he’s so wrong. It’s okay dude I know it’s a full time job trying to defend your cuck comedian.
@@musiclifelove being a know it all is not actually about knowing it all, it's about thinking you know it all. big difference.
Best podcast by far
Louis makes some good points here, and some incorrect ones. Get Shaffir, Smith, and him together...
Fucking nailed it.
some great takes here!
No, this was bad. Shane should shy away from this lex fridman level babble
@@robbyrobot3303 no this was good
@@jaydeatts it wasn't. Louis wants politics to go back to the Bush era where he could pretend to be the good guy. Politics is more honest now
A "normal" conservative that Louis wants means endless war.
CK is a 50 year old man or so, and has drastically changed his views to meet societal standards.. and he doesn’t even realize it.
12:46
What is crazier is that Trump and Biden are about to run again... why people, why?!
Who would you prefer?
@bardsamok9221 that's an easy 1.
Option 1: career politician, corrupt, part of the establishment that has corrupted the system in favor of the wealthy few and his own interests. More deficit spending and looking out of large donors.
Or.
Option 2: the large donor cutting out the middle man. A career snake oil salesman. A con man and con artist. lying cheating sociopath that will say an do anything that he feels benefits him. A power and money hungry manipulative clown that has gone all in on populist rhetoric and is using the countries dividedness and hopelessness for his own opportunities...
Yea I'll easily take Option 1. But I dont like my choises..
Unfortunately not enough people realize that we do not have to vote for only two parties who control everything so I must must choose Option 1, or else my vote will be wasted and the potential of the clown grows exponentially.
Politics is protesting. DT was such a good heel, that no matter who they put against him that person would be a babyface. What’s a heels job? To get the baby face over. What did DT do? He put JB over. Remember in the 90’s when Vince McMahon because “Mr. McMahon” and was an on screen talent? That’s DT. There’s a reason they were friends and DT was on Monday night raw. He’s such a fucking great classic heel
That was great. I always say to my gf that if someone is willing to get me at 3am because my car broke down am i going to refuse help or look down on them because they voted for trump? This is a solid good person. So maybe you think they make a bad choice but they are there for you when you really need help. Thats what matters to me.
Louie still thinks there’s an election process and not a controlled demolition or he is controlled opposition ❤
All the top stars are
A member of the Shaman's party I see
Louie still clinging pretty hard to the illusion of democracy.
My fav thing said by all MSM and then parroted by leftist. "Donald Trump being ELECTED is a threat to our Democracy". 😂🤣
@@cameronmelgaard2344 Him trying to undercut elections by parroting lies and conspiracy, even after his own staff said they looked into it and concluded any organized effort to "steal" the election was complete bullshit...he kept on even after informed, and still to this day cries on truth social about a stolen election...that will catch up with him along with his part in January 6th. So in a round about way they aren't wrong...
@@dad378 You're talking about 2020 and I'm talking about 2016, you do realize that right? Just having to explain a joke to a liberal is the most stereotypical and sad thing at this point lol. To elect someone is Democracy, period. Donald got elected in 2016 and Dems said he was a Russian agent (100% proven to be fabricated), and then Joe won in 2020 and Donald said it was rigged, which looks more and more to be a baseless claim.
@@cameronmelgaard2344 lol i understood the irony in the statement, keep owning the libs tho, he said the same thing about the 2016 election with the millions of illegal's voting in American elections...a lie
He campaigned on locking up his political opponents in 2016....over things he would later do himself.
crybaby conservative.
@@dad378 I'm sorry, did you not just read what I wrote? Is there a schizo movie playing in your head? You are the one taking sides here lol. I agree alot more with what Louis and Shane are saying than the left or right talking points. How did you not know Trump was joking when he said he'd lock up Hilary lmfao. Your stupidity is so entertaining.
So True, as a 40s white male (never trumper since day 1) everyone just assumes I’m a MAGA guy.
is that kyle rittenhouse as shane gillis
Chris Christie??? Really
Playing it safe with the “all sides” argument
Don't want to piss too many people off too quickly. People still need to forget about his masturbation kink.
The funniest comics are neither right nor left, but right in the middle. All of my favorite ones are like that. I don’t think it’s funny when someone only makes fun of one side. There is plenty to criticize on both sides.
That’s not shane 😂
It’s funny to me that we talk about the left complaining about trump and just ignore that the same thing is happening right now. People are stuck in a death struggle of hate
louie isnt looking at trumps actions and policies just the crazy shit he was saying Trump did exactly what the voters want him to do.
Well that's what they're doing. It's a 5+ hour podcast talking about every president in order. They say at least 5 times, "we don't care about what they did, we're talking about the guys".
The voters wanted him to change weather maps with sharpie?
They wanted him to take president’s Xi’s word that everything was fine until it was too late?
Yep, that border wall and Trump healthcare are 🔥
10:35 the media made politics sports teams finally.
You love watching your rival lose almost as much as your “team” winning. And you back your team regardless, cause they’re your team.
Democracy is our process. We are a constitutional republic with democratic processes. The representative republic's main goal is to supposed to secure our rights and sovereignty. None of that is the case today. Chaos at the borders and the rights of the people are sold out to the highest bidders. It's a violation of oaths. Politicians need to pay real consequences.
C.K. Gillis 2024 👏🏻
Gillis/CK*
We need Shane in those presidential debates 😂
*when you realixe*
it's alla a show and STORY!!!
Listening to Louie talk politics gives me an instant headache holy cow
Louie kept trying to drag shane left
Yea it was very feminine. He's using very transparent sales tactics to build a false consensus where we go back to the Bush era.
I don't think he's trying to drag him. He seems to believe that all of Shane's Trump love and left bashing is a bit. But it very clearly isn't.
@@ghost_615 Louie comes off like a cheap salesman. He keeps force teaming and trying to get rightwing people to split the difference. "I get that you are conservative, but you just have to choose a 'normal' candidate." / "At the end of the day we are both Americans and it's healthy to have president go from left to right, just not someone like trump."
These are transparent tactics. Trump made politics honest, Louis hates that
@@robbyrobot3303No, Louis is smarter than that. Like Carlin, he's a stupid libertarian. (He comes to libertarianism from the gov-school-dumbed-down pseudo-Left plus the improving factor of the Bill of Rights.)
Trump is now a victimless crime offender, but he defended putting victimless crime offenders("drug dealers") to death to Fox's Bret Baier on June 19, 2023. When Baier reacted with astonishment, because that would literally be crossing a line that only rabid insane totalitarians like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Pol Pot had crossed (murdering millions of their own citizens during peacetime), Trump doubled down. Baier pointed out that if drug dealers were put to death, Alice Johnson (freed by Trump's "First Step Act") would have been put to death. Trump denied this, saying "No, no, no, it would be based on severity." (Because we all know how reasonable cops and prosecutors are when they're stealing millions of dollars and circumventing due process using "asset forfeiture." ...The same Kamala-Harris-type prosecutors regularly use the threat of the worst punishments possible to coerce "plea bargains." So what happens when a John-Hancock-type smuggler who believes in property rights won't plead guilty? Put all the pro-American people to death? Become Hitler's Germany?)
...But it gets much worse. When Baier refused to let Trump lie, pointing out that Johnson was sentenced under the harshest "sentencing guidelines," and that she would indeed have been put to death if Trump's new proposal were in effect, Trump used two extremely dishonest tactics to try to dodge accountability. First he told Baier "It wouldn't apply to her, because it's not retroactive, ex-post-facto laws are prohibited." To his further credit, Baier didn't let Trump get away with this dishonest and childish tactic of "Refusing to generalize from specifics, even in directly analogous commonplace cases." Baier expressed disbelief at the outlandish extent to which Trump was trying to defend his immoral and indefensible policy proposal, and said something like "I'm obviously not talking about Johnson specifically, I'm talking about the thousands of cases just like hers that go through the courts every day." Then, Trump shifted gears, and decided he'd really double down on murdering innocent people, he said: "Besides, she never would have done it if it ( *the death penalty* for drug dealing) was in place." Baier laughed at Trump's banality, dishonesty, and evil...for the first time in his career, a presidential candidate was using government school "Just Say No" brainwashing to suggest murdering innocent people in the government's holy war on Lockean property. Except that Trump was now simply pretending that all drug dealing would stop and only violent criminals would keep at it. All of the data and all of history indicate that this is totally untrue. However, it absolutely would usher in a totalitarian police state that, like the gestapo, murdered civilians without habeas corpus.
(To accomplish this in Germany, Hitler issued the Reichstag Fire Decree, on Feb 28, 1933.)
If you're honest, you know that neither Trump nor Biden think for themselves. They both do whatever their central-bank-connected handlers tell them to do. This is very alarming, because it shows us that the central bank wants to put Americans to death for actions that are technically non-crimes. This goes against the U.S. Constitution's Bill of Rights and everything America is supposed to stand for. It's the inevitable end-point of drug prohibition: mass murder by government (democide).
You can't "Make America Great Again," by murdering Americans. Drug prohibition is the same as alcohol prohibition: a mistake made by "phrenologists" who wanted a two-tiered justice system that allowed cops to enforce the laws unequally against racial minorities.
Trump himself knew this in 1990. He said, "We're losing badly the war on drugs, you have to legalize drugs to win that war. We have to take the profits away from these drug czars."
Ignoring the poor English and assuming he was talking about the cartels, and not then-head-of-the-ONDCP, William Bennett, Trump was correct.
Drugs are just private property.
That Trump is now campaigning as a victimless felon who wants to put other victimless felons to death should cause true Republicans to vote against him.
You can't build a Republic on murder.
I'm not advocating voting for Biden. By all measures, Biden has been a worse drug prohibitionist than Trump. Biden never showed mercy, and whipped support among the Democrats for Reagan and Clinton's "crime bills" that packed the prisons full of innocent drug offenders. Then, when Hunter and Ashley Biden _both_ ran afoul of those same laws, they didn't pay the same price that impoverished black people and politically-unconnected whites paid.
This is the year to withhold support from the major parties.
They literally want to kill you for the same victimless non-crimes their families and friends commit.
There are two sets of laws in the USA. Those laws apply to you, not to the elites. Trump is the German Freikorps to Biden's Stalin: they both want to take your property rights away from you, while exempting their own god-damned families from those same laws.
Trump's "tough on non-crime" posturing probably isn't going to put Roger Stone or Donald Trump Jr. to death. It's going to put your college-aged kid to death, when he stands up for his principles and refuses to plead "guilty" in a drug case.
Take your head out of your ass, America. This is literally your last chance.
Louis definitely smells his own farts and enjoys the scent
dont we all
Alot of us do that
@@gregscrabshack2307 no dude that's revolting
Yeah, he needs to be reigned in a bit.
Chris Christie?!?
i mean yah i am trump humper myself but I actually agree with Louis on many things he said about Trump. Like example he DID run as a democrat several times. He is NOT actually conservative, et cetera. These things ARE true and were forgotten by many of “us” true conservatives during election and all. But, then again, My wumpie trumpie did try to give the people many of the things they voted for, like the wall and all.
louis ck used shane to get a youtube podcast off the ground
What podcast would that be?
I am so glad I stepped out of both the right and the left matrix… I now vote for certain issues in the left and other issues on the right. I call it “political rivalry derangement syndrome”. Where if one claims to be on the right, and if someone has a criticism of the right, they will play apologetics and try and protect anyone else in the right, even if they don’t agree with what that person did. It’s the weirdest thing thag betrays intellectual honesty and critical thinking. Btw this is probably even more widespread on the left… left has rhetorically found some remarkable ways to ensure that their ideas cannot be criticized.
I hate when both sides are in it for the war. Not for the truth.
The new matrix is developing into populists vs. protectionist swamp bureaucrats and their lackeys.
Welcome to the Libertarian party!
Well you really can't just vote on issues because it's rolled up in 2 parties and if you don't choose then it's basically a throw away vote. Welcome to America at it's finest. It doesn't matter what party you are change only comes when the people stand together and replace the people of both parties with actual intelligent, want to work not just get paid people.
@@will-i-am386 Well I will sacrifice inconsequential vote for eversoslightly more inconsequential vote if it means retaining an independent, or intellectually rigorously honest style of contending with complex ideas. And I care more about local and state issues as they are the most directly impactful.
@treeghettox You equate those who vote with being juvenile? I disagree especially on local levels. You can directly or through one degree of separation see the usefulness of single votes.
Where voting for presidential nominees is concerned, I would agree with you.
Louie come on now, the right would have never cancelled you during the #METoo situation.
Chris Christie? Jesus Christ.
Did Louis just say we need Chris Christie? Oh HELL no.
I love Louis’ comedy genius. His political opinions are kinda strange and he speaks on them as if they are a matter of fact. God doesn’t give with both hands
Doesn’t everyone when they talk about their political opinions?
@@Kpmg12 not the people I surround myself with.
@@justintuisamoa4191 my experience is people are pretty stuck in their views and beliefs but good to hear there are circles that aren’t
That’s not what I heard at all. He seemed really open minded and respectful of both political sides. I thought he provided an interesting perspective and I’m not even sure how you could portray him that way.
Interesting to hear Shane speak on “the left crying everyday” but ignores the fact that The Right’s been doing the same thing since 2020, albeit with more made up conspiracies and less genuine concern for the safety of their fellow Americans like “The Left”. I guess he’s just a typical Republican piece of shit…
Everyone who invests their personal identity into one of the two virtually identical neoliberal political parties in this country is absolutely cooked.
Funny thing is hhd right is exactly the same way now. If you are not 100% on track with them they call you a traitorous groomer.
Louis: It doesn't matter.
Shane: You are so right. Here is why it matters. Boo lefties.
I love how Louis says "nightmare moments in history" referring to a time with record employment, record breaking economy, lower taxes, and ZERO wars. 🤦♂
I think he's just saying it's a nightmare moment in American politics not holistically when talking about general world relations.
And Germany was on the up and up when Hitler took power. World’s 3rd largest economy at the time.
Record employment? The employment participation rate hasn’t been this low in decades.
Read a book.
@@SKa-tt9nm I think op was talking ab the 80's