Glad to see you taking it into your own hands to get it done right, I hope that shop sees this video and fires whoever did that bad of a job. I don't understand how a professional shop can mess rings up like that, that's such basic knowledge for building engines.
The dude has way more tolerance than I would have had. If I had torn into my 30-mile engine and found all of this I would have lost my shit totally. Cheers from Louisiana.
brutal dude! to answer your crosshatching question, I rebuilt my 6G72TT twice in 3000 miles (oil cooler line blew). The cross hatching after the first rebuild was still there when I tore it apart the second time. Had it rehoned and dropped in new rings
Man everyday i get into my 92 stealth, start it and bam! A thought, "I hope Ian has a smooth day with that thing" idk why I'm so "spiritually" dedicated to your endeavor but im with you man! like a fly on the wall or antifreeze on the floor lol
Lol ... at least you're doing it yourself the first time instead of having some junkie engine builder do it and then you have to redo all their work like I am lol
Really appreciate this video dude. I'm just pulled out the engine from a 91 vr4 i just bought that had been sitting for years. It would be so much easier if everything wasn't so fused together from sitting for years. Took me 2 hours to unhook the exhaust on its own. Hopefully though that makes putting it in easier than taking it out for me.
Hey man good luck with the rebuild, I am doing the exact same thing over on my channel. I had to laugh (cuz I have been there) when you said 'I probably should have taken that off before I mounted it to the stand' because I did the exact same thing trying to get the main bearing off. I too have never rebuilt an engine, but for me it's been a great process so far and I am looking forward to putting mine back together. Looking forward to more videos.
Bro are you kidding me? sue the f out of that shop, unbelievable. Send your assembly over to pampena and your trans over to Rvenge , save yourself time & headaches. They are the best in the country. I just pulled mine out last weekend too for overhaul.
The rear main you are correct on. Needs to be all way into housing. Oil groove is normal from seal wearing over time. You can get a speedy sleeve to repair seal surface on crank front and rear are availiable
I agree about the mark on crank from the seal but it looked awfully deep on camera and just sketches me out. If its 10 to 15 thou deep thats that much less of a seal and under boost can push oil....been there.
The studs do go in hand tight if you over tighten studs u can crack mating surface. Also locks studs in so removal later is hard. If u want studs to stay tight use locktite on stud. Water mls gaskets dont need any sealant the black coating is the sealant. Water pump gasket and oil pump gaskets are paper not metal from factory. Blue gasket looks like fel pro brand. Pistons are cast stock pistons. Rods are stock oe rods
Yea had a few guys say that now ... Well I did the oil pump gasket it is OEM it says Mitsubishi on it.. And I got a metal water pump gasket in a gasket set I got soo that's y I said I think it's supposed to be metal...
@@Near2Future you have to get everything out of the right side of the engine bay left if you're looking at the engine... All the intake pipes and everything to get to the bell housing and that one transmission mount
@Near2Future yea u got this 🤙... well if you watch my video of me putting my transmission on you'll understand how to get it off.. The only difference is is that it'll be in the car for you so you'll have to clear everything out that's above it over there by your battery...
Can you access/service the rod bearings through the lower oil pan? I plan on upgrading my pump while in the car and #1 cylinder is 15 PSI higher than the others. Oil sample coming back about 2-3x normal lead levels. 15 ppm versus 5-6 ppm. I think that cylinder's bearing may be getting some play. Would like to check/replace while I'm in there.
@@huracanian3051 Thanks! I was glad to be able to see the rods from the oil pan without having to remove the upper oil pan like our Nissan VQ35. I think I also have the same, but slower, leaking issue around the oil pump. It's slinging oil up onto the front cam sprockets. Did you say the OEM gasket fixed your leak? Did you reuse your pump or the crushed aluminum was too far gone?
@@mydecember1985 if you've never had the pump off it's probably not the pump blinking there's a main seal that you can replace without taking the pump off and if it's coming from the cam there's seals around the cams... or something that a lot of people Overlook if you ever had your valve cover off you have to put silicone around the cams for it not to leak that could be your leak coming off the valve covers
@@huracanian3051 true... i believe i might have asked that before now that i think of it. i think i would just maybe sue them to teach them a lesson and sue them to pay for the attorney and pay for the engine rebuild only so they aren’t screwing so many other people over for it. where are they located and what is the name
@@huracanian3051 We can hit them one star 🌟 on Google if you want, mann it's even alot for them one star, current rate is 4.7 can't believe they got that rate from seeing there quality work 😉
@@huracanian3051 geeze dude, used assembly lube? Sorry to hear man. I'm in a similar situation, rebuilt the upper end and a rod bearing decided to take a poop. Our blocks look the same right now lol
I have a new rear main in my pile of parts somewhere and it’s an oem part but it comes preinstalled in the housing that bolts on, so it’s the whole assembly. I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be flush in the assembly. I’m sorry your engine is so fucked:( I really want to start tearing into mine but I don’t really wanna keep buying parts from 3sx. Where do you usually buy parts from?
I like imr.. But sometimes ome is the best ... And sometimes 3sx is the only ones that have something lol ..... But yea I like imr he's cool and takes of u tell him I sent u
Remember you don't want the engine to be unworn for long trying to keep it from wearing in break in is counter productive rather try and get the engine to a place that its going to run for the majority of its life 95+% of its life is spent worn so the parts are designed not to work best brand new but rather when they are broken in. That being said you want to get your engine to worn in condition sooner than later. Ohh and you had a bad builder it looks like was that a machine shop or an engine builder or what
Yeah I took it to an engine builder who completely screwed me over on everything ... I talked about it in a few videos it's supposed to be a completely forged build all forged internals .... it is what it is at this point my newer videos I've completely rebuilt engine myself this time with all forged internals , Stage 2 cams and 15g turbos
Looks like you got sold a motor built from used stock parts. I believe damage was caused from lots and lots of cranking on top of the parts already being used
Turbo awd kswap it?? lol I've been wondering how difficult it would be to do something like that. I know people are doing 4g63 swaps now. In all seriousness it's just nice to see someone keeping the platform going even after something like this.
@@blkgsxr04able lolol ... Idk .. what transfer case and transmission would you use... And yea ima do a 4g63 one day in a 3000gt .... I just have to finish this one first hahaha
I beleive the 03-08 honda element. Ude probably have to get everything from that but it's a 6speed manual and I believe the trans and transfer case hold good power. If a blown up vr4 pops up for sale near me I might just have to attempt this.
@@kiwia8271 lol no way he could do that ... he keeps his "knowledge" as if it was a classified Secret... if he told anybody that he couldn't tell himself (I'm the only one that knows) lol
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Glad to see you taking it into your own hands to get it done right, I hope that shop sees this video and fires whoever did that bad of a job. I don't understand how a professional shop can mess rings up like that, that's such basic knowledge for building engines.
Lol there just a POS
The dude has way more tolerance than I would have had. If I had torn into my 30-mile engine and found all of this I would have lost my shit totally. Cheers from Louisiana.
brutal dude! to answer your crosshatching question, I rebuilt my 6G72TT twice in 3000 miles (oil cooler line blew). The cross hatching after the first rebuild was still there when I tore it apart the second time. Had it rehoned and dropped in new rings
Man everyday i get into my 92 stealth, start it and bam! A thought, "I hope Ian has a smooth day with that thing" idk why I'm so "spiritually" dedicated to your endeavor but im with you man! like a fly on the wall or antifreeze on the floor lol
Lol yea antifreeze in my hair lol
If you read ARP Headstud instructions. The studs are supposed to be hand tight into the block. The washer and nut are supposed to be torqued down.
Oooo ok ok ...
@@huracanian3051 You always undo them with a torque wrench that way you know which ones are loose and how much they're loose by.
If there's ANY fluid in the stud hole prior to installing the studs its common that the stud will bust/crack the bottom of the stud hole.
Also make sure all the block dowel pins are installed (if it had any originally)
Correct, when you torque the nut it is loading up both threading surfaces so the fastener won't come loose even if it was originally hand tight.
This is why I just spend a day rebuilding my own engines.
funny thing is me n my lil bro rebuilding the same engine while u tearing it down been at it for couple months but good luck to u man
Lol ... at least you're doing it yourself the first time instead of having some junkie engine builder do it and then you have to redo all their work like I am lol
10:30 - That head bolt is the oil feed, that's why block is full of oil there.
Yea bro that shop is booty 100%, now you get the chance to put it together, and you can double even triple check everything you do😎
Yea should have just did it myself the first time
keep it up i'm finishing my vr too
I'm trying lol
@@huracanian3051 this car is worth it, they dont make jdm like this anymore:d
@@abuahmed5755 lol true true
thanks for making this engine tear down video its gonna help me so much😀
Forsure man happy it helped
Hey Buddy.... I'm back.... Gonna binge watch.... Been a rough year with my dad's health. Let's see how the 'GTO' is going. Hi to the others in here.
🤙 what's up bud
Really appreciate this video dude. I'm just pulled out the engine from a 91 vr4 i just bought that had been sitting for years. It would be so much easier if everything wasn't so fused together from sitting for years. Took me 2 hours to unhook the exhaust on its own. Hopefully though that makes putting it in easier than taking it out for me.
Forsure man 🤙 .. I have videos on everthing with the 3000gt
Hey man good luck with the rebuild, I am doing the exact same thing over on my channel. I had to laugh (cuz I have been there) when you said 'I probably should have taken that off before I mounted it to the stand' because I did the exact same thing trying to get the main bearing off. I too have never rebuilt an engine, but for me it's been a great process so far and I am looking forward to putting mine back together. Looking forward to more videos.
Lol Yea should of just did it myself the first time
Bro are you kidding me? sue the f out of that shop, unbelievable.
Send your assembly over to pampena and your trans over to Rvenge , save yourself time & headaches. They are the best in the country.
I just pulled mine out last weekend too for overhaul.
Lol
So very hard to trust anyone.... aka idiots....to touch your machine
You will obviously do a superior job 👍
Just take your time, that shop sure did a No on you.
Yea ... I still haven't figured out who I'm even taking it to the have the machine work done yet....
That we’re on the bearings looks like they didn’t use lube or enough Lou on the bearings for start up an assembly
The rear main you are correct on. Needs to be all way into housing.
Oil groove is normal from seal wearing over time. You can get a speedy sleeve to repair seal surface on crank front and rear are availiable
I agree about the mark on crank from the seal but it looked awfully deep on camera and just sketches me out.
If its 10 to 15 thou deep thats that much less of a seal and under boost can push oil....been there.
The studs do go in hand tight if you over tighten studs u can crack mating surface.
Also locks studs in so removal later is hard.
If u want studs to stay tight use locktite on stud.
Water mls gaskets dont need any sealant the black coating is the sealant.
Water pump gasket and oil pump gaskets are paper not metal from factory.
Blue gasket looks like fel pro brand.
Pistons are cast stock pistons.
Rods are stock oe rods
Yea had a few guys say that now ... Well I did the oil pump gasket it is OEM it says Mitsubishi on it.. And I got a metal water pump gasket in a gasket set I got soo that's y I said I think it's supposed to be metal...
@@huracanian3051 metal gasket is probably an updated one to correct issue they had at one point
@@cca-automotive2024 yea idk maybe ... I actually just walked out and looked at it I have a metal and a paper water pump gasket 🤔
Exhaust stud on the heads from Mitsubishi factory must have been put in with impact gun...
🤷🏼♂️
How much work would it be just to drop the transmision? My gears aren't going into 4-5th. It's a 6speed.
@@Near2Future you have to get everything out of the right side of the engine bay left if you're looking at the engine... All the intake pipes and everything to get to the bell housing and that one transmission mount
@@huracanian3051 Thank you very much :) i'm hoping I can take it out myself save some money & drop it off to someone who does transmission stuff
@Near2Future yea u got this 🤙... well if you watch my video of me putting my transmission on you'll understand how to get it off.. The only difference is is that it'll be in the car for you so you'll have to clear everything out that's above it over there by your battery...
Can you access/service the rod bearings through the lower oil pan? I plan on upgrading my pump while in the car and #1 cylinder is 15 PSI higher than the others. Oil sample coming back about 2-3x normal lead levels. 15 ppm versus 5-6 ppm. I think that cylinder's bearing may be getting some play. Would like to check/replace while I'm in there.
Yea... I did .. back when I was trying to "save" the "rebuilt" from story Motors I checked all my bearings
@@huracanian3051 Thanks! I was glad to be able to see the rods from the oil pan without having to remove the upper oil pan like our Nissan VQ35.
I think I also have the same, but slower, leaking issue around the oil pump. It's slinging oil up onto the front cam sprockets. Did you say the OEM gasket fixed your leak? Did you reuse your pump or the crushed aluminum was too far gone?
@@mydecember1985 no I got a new pump ... But if u have a 1st gen u have to rebuild it u can't buy a pump
@@mydecember1985 if you've never had the pump off it's probably not the pump blinking there's a main seal that you can replace without taking the pump off and if it's coming from the cam there's seals around the cams... or something that a lot of people Overlook if you ever had your valve cover off you have to put silicone around the cams for it not to leak that could be your leak coming off the valve covers
It’s a beautiful motor, just needs to be done right
Facts !
Whoever they previous owner got to help him is gonna be in some hot water for this 💀
Lol y
Just came accross this video.Are these cars from the 90's worth anything?
Some of them
You should know that rings rotate on pistons as they go up and down.
So what are the odds that all three of them are lined up ??? ..... what you work for story Motors or something
How do you explain the chunk missing out of the bearing
Wow, imagine being so petty, you have to try and bad mouth you tubers to feel good,
@@huracanian3051 he has too. Lol
@@RamonHernandez-oi7fm lolol idk ..
I just built a 6g72tt in a gto 2 weeks ago
That's cool
If it had oil in head bolt hole and when they tighten down it can crack the block
😵 o cool lol
This is common !
i am absolutely blown away. can you sue them?
I mean by the time I do it and pay for an attorney and the time is going to take it's really not even worth it... They got me good
@@huracanian3051 true... i believe i might have asked that before now that i think of it. i think i would just maybe sue them to teach them a lesson and sue them to pay for the attorney and pay for the engine rebuild only so they aren’t screwing so many other people over for it. where are they located and what is the name
@@zacharyfreeman1101 story Motors in Massillon Ohio
@@huracanian3051 We can hit them one star 🌟 on Google if you want, mann it's even alot for them one star, current rate is 4.7 can't believe they got that rate from seeing there quality work 😉
@@amrmad6446 I seen the 4.7 too it's b.s.
Studs are actually supposed to be hand tight but you probably would have been better off building it yourself with all the issues you’ve had..
O ok .... And yea no $h!t
Wowza, did you pay the shop for for forged rods an pistons?
Yea
that wear on the mains looks like there was no oil lubrication when it was cranked
I primed it ...
@@huracanian3051 geeze dude, used assembly lube? Sorry to hear man. I'm in a similar situation, rebuilt the upper end and a rod bearing decided to take a poop. Our blocks look the same right now lol
The scoring on the crank where the main seal is will probably never seal correctly now
I was thinking that and was worried about it too but I've had like three people send me pictures with that same marking in they're cranks
@@huracanian3051 👌🆗️
wow bullshit builders sue them... glad to see you are going to do it right. good luck men
Lol.. Yea. Thanks man
Are u in florida. How much to install a new tranny and engine in my 3000gt
Lol no I'm not in FL ... U can do it bud
PLSSSSSSS SEND IT TO RAY POMPENA MOTORSPORTS DUDES A LEGEND AND HE CAN DO THE HEAD LIFT FIX ON IT
I looked him up on IG
Agreed. Send it to Ray Pampena
@@pauldawidowski2053 hey man where the hell u been how u doing
@@huracanian3051 he has a website as well. Pompena motorsports. If you want your block done right he is your guy
Yes he built my trans
I have a new rear main in my pile of parts somewhere and it’s an oem part but it comes preinstalled in the housing that bolts on, so it’s the whole assembly. I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be flush in the assembly. I’m sorry your engine is so fucked:( I really want to start tearing into mine but I don’t really wanna keep buying parts from 3sx. Where do you usually buy parts from?
I like imr.. But sometimes ome is the best ... And sometimes 3sx is the only ones that have something lol ..... But yea I like imr he's cool and takes of u tell him I sent u
Man that shop did you completely wrong. I'd be asking for a big refund.
Lol yea there's no point in even talking to them.. you get know where.. they just deny everything
@@huracanian3051 Look up Kakperformance on Facebook and get that thing to Donnie!
can swap 4g63t?
I want a 4g63 3000gt
Remember you don't want the engine to be unworn for long trying to keep it from wearing in break in is counter productive rather try and get the engine to a place that its going to run for the majority of its life 95+% of its life is spent worn so the parts are designed not to work best brand new but rather when they are broken in. That being said you want to get your engine to worn in condition sooner than later. Ohh and you had a bad builder it looks like was that a machine shop or an engine builder or what
Yeah I took it to an engine builder who completely screwed me over on everything ... I talked about it in a few videos it's supposed to be a completely forged build all forged internals .... it is what it is at this point my newer videos I've completely rebuilt engine myself this time with all forged internals , Stage 2 cams and 15g turbos
did you already do this?...lol
Lol yep yep
Those are oem VR4 pistons
Thanks ... How u doing
Bearings are not good not that new or mains / crank are not happy
Looks like you got sold a motor built from used stock parts. I believe damage was caused from lots and lots of cranking on top of the parts already being used
Yea .. I mean I paid for a 100% brand new engine rebuild with forged internals
Been there before. Really not as. Ad as everyone makes it out to be to work on them.
Yea it's just sucks that I've pretty much wasted a year because of engine builder screwed me over lolol
Turbo awd kswap it?? lol I've been wondering how difficult it would be to do something like that. I know people are doing 4g63 swaps now. In all seriousness it's just nice to see someone keeping the platform going even after something like this.
@@blkgsxr04able lolol ... Idk .. what transfer case and transmission would you use... And yea ima do a 4g63 one day in a 3000gt .... I just have to finish this one first hahaha
I beleive the 03-08 honda element. Ude probably have to get everything from that but it's a 6speed manual and I believe the trans and transfer case hold good power. If a blown up vr4 pops up for sale near me I might just have to attempt this.
@@blkgsxr04able yea that would be sick
*RIP*
Lol
Cyl wear is terrible have not been honed or bored over
@#$%.... sorry man. 😞
Lol it's dumb
A civics easier.
O really ? 🤣🤣 u don't say 🤣
Wow SMH
Lol
Nothing worse than watching a beginner pretending to be a pro.
Lolol just going out of ur way to talk $h!t huh
Bro instead of being an A/hole, and given how much time you have spent working on GTOs, how about advising him, instead of putting him down.
@@kiwia8271 lol no way he could do that ... he keeps his "knowledge" as if it was a classified Secret... if he told anybody that he couldn't tell himself (I'm the only one that knows) lol
He must work for the shop that did your engine. Lol
@@RamonHernandez-oi7fm lol yea .. I asked him that in the other comment