USED Mitsubishi GTO/3000GT. What goes WRONG and should you buy one?
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The Mitsubishi GTO/3000GT is considered the least desirable among the group of 90s JDM classics, so comparatively, they're a bit of a bargain. But is getting a used one a good idea? We do a deep dive on what goes wrong, what they're like to drive and whether you should buy one.
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00:00 - Intro
00:15 - What is it?
04:22 - Exterior issues
05:57 - Interior issues
09:00 - Practicality and features
10:30 - Safety
11:43 - What's it like to drive?
14:27 - Mechanical issues
17:42 - Should you buy it?
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That kicker sub brought back the memories. ❤
I worked on these under warranty back in the early 90's. Go on a road test on the freeway, and everybody wanted to give you a run.
Yeah, I owned one in the UK, I couldn't stop at a traffic light without someone revving their crappy 1.0L hatchback at me.
Love them ❤❤❤
I have a 98 GTO MR, it’s my 4th of the same platform but my first RHD GTO. I love it, but I really forgot how tight the cockpit is. Mines a survivor, unmolested except for wheels and tires, I daily drive her.
I had a 1991 Mitsubishi GTO (Japanese Import) and it sucked! Too much tech that had all gone wrong, leaks everywhere, terrible corrosion, very tricky access to service/repair and ultimately I had to sell it as a parts car as was a money pit. It looked great and the pop-up headlamps still worked at least.
they werent any better in the late 90s and 00s. mine in 01 was absolute dogshit. the wiring, that joke of a glass transmission, the worlds weakest brakes, the rust, and having to change the back plugs got me to sell it and never regret it.
R34 GTR, series 6 RX7, GTO. I still hold hope one day there's a redriven review of a certain mid engined V6 Honda sportscar. That Honda is perhaps the most special of all 90s Japanese cars.
These never got the love they deserved compared to the others as you mentioned, but unfortunately were also known to be quite delicate. Some things owners did and will always look out for: transmissions on all variants had weak points, even the dull 4-speed auto. The 6G72, both turbo and NA, was known to spin bearings very easily due to oil starvation, so owners always keep an eye on oil pressure and levels. One VERY important thing to note, the oil pan pickup is on the lowest part of the engine and unprotected, so it is very susceptible to denting, leading to oil starvation and spun bearings. These cars also sit very low (mine measured at 41" tall) so bumps and scrapes on uneven roads are very common. Exterior plastics fade from gray to white, red paint was single stage and fades to pink, dash vents are the first things to crack on the interior, gray carpet can fade to green. Also one thing missed in the video, these went through 3 facelifts after the initial 90-93 pop-up headlight run. '94 saw bumper and side skirt changes, and projector headlights, '97 saw new bumpers and spoiler, and '99 was a different animal with the new front end and combat wing. Certain features like AWS and active aero were also dropped during these facelifts.
It didn't get the love because it was poorly built.
where you say "one thing missed in the video"... he talks about it at 2:00, looks like you may have missed it
Guys, for your next compilation video, can you do a theme like "best second hand Grand Touring cars"?
Thanks for your videos, have watched them all, and even bought my current car based on one of your videos. Keep up the fantastic work!
What car did you get?
This test will be the closest to ' Redriven ' ever reviewing the '380'.😅
me too! I got an 86
It was never forgotten. It was just the cheap alternative for someone that couldn’t afford an NSX or a GTR.
Issue is, at least in the states, is the lack of parts and people charging over new or prices for used parts. 😮💨
I had one. Active aero disabled, coil overs, boost and intercooler, BOV, 3 boost gauges 🤣. Great fun but gearshift was long and sloppy and couldn't keep it from boiling the coolant. Fast, but not that fast.
"Fast but not that fast" 100% accurate. I had one as well and although fun to drive it felt heavy.
3000GT, Starion, Cordia. Mitsubishi made some amazing cars in the day.
Still have a ‘92 Galant VR4 with 600 ponies at the wheels, great car…Cuzzin has a Legnum with 500 (and a few issues 😂). Triton’s are tough as nails!
I had 4 cordias ranging from stock to 250fwkw They were honestly the biggest shitboxes haha. Fun none the less
They certainly did
VR4 especially the 96 model onwards
I worked on all of these under warranty.
Owned one and it was terrible as for as reliability, repairs, etc. Was happy when I got one, and even happier when I got rid of it.
Mine was a twin turbo, with enlarged turbos and a boost controller, five speed, with around 520 HP. That thing was ridiculously fast, 0-100 km / h in about four seconds. Active aero was busted, and the door seal didn't seal properly. It also has no room to work on the engine, as the packaging is extremely tight. Unless it's a VR-4 and a manual, not worth buying; low km VR-4, unmodified specimens are highly collectible, and extremely rare and hard to find.
Agree 100% - the n/a GTOs are just a waste of time
Really good review. Just a shame you didn't get to experience the TT version because THAT'S what made these cars so special. I have a Gen 1 Aust delivered 3000GT. Love it with a passion.
Preach Ernie. Love the TT
Got a NZ new gen 1 GTO turbo. Love the pop up lights!
17:50 when New, these were better than the unmentioned Subaru SVX. The SVX was Subarus Halo GT car and was a direct JDM GT competitor to this. We got it here in NZ. Did you not get it in Aussie??
We got it in the US and it was a turd and I’m a huge Subie head
Got hooked up with this car back in gran turismo 1 just because it has a twin turbo name on it 😆
Great review and thanks for the mentions. Wasn't expected but very greatful regardless.
Just to.point out the valve stem seals are really easy to replace without removing the heads and the wing mirrors are the same part number on the USA version as the Dodge Viper. Just thought that was funny as that was your last review.
Such a good looking car! Kudos to the owner for the care and tlc to keep it that clean!
P plate owned too
The hydronic clutch pedal...must have repaired that a half a dozen times..smh
I had a twin turbo one in the mid 00's when I was 16. Picked it up for $4k and had a heap of fun.
I owned a lot of these JDM heroes. The only one that I stil own is the Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo. They drive the best out of all of these in my opinion.
11:35 why is the boot floor so high? Has this got a full size spare under there?
Not full size but yes a spare tire, also the gas tank is right under.
Remembered the adv in a magazine back then when I was a kid. The car that made me into cars
This is one gangsta looking car I won't lie about that
Do gangsters drive these? 🤔
@@maccaccino I doubt it but the term "gangsta" in the phrase means cool.
Omg someone give them an FTO V6 to review
Many cars are beautiful enough to be bought and engine swapped to something reliable
Now do a nissan 300ZX!?!
It was ahead of time but the technology wasn’t reliable yet, there isn’t a single one out there with functioning active aerodynamics…
I own one, 91 SL 79k miles
Sure Mitsubushi also built the smaller FTO, cool looking sports car. Mitsubushi does not build a single vehicle on sale in the UK that I would buy now, maybe the L200 pick up. The Mitsubushi Galant VR4 was a very cool saloon/sedan back in the day. Great videos to watch.
Had the galant vr4 - fantastic car
Mitsubishi Motors don't sell anything in the UK or Europe now
@@bruce7890 yea, I just checked. I did not realise they pulled out, I am a car bloke and never even noticed, not much was said. The last model line up must have been so mind numbingly boring that nobody noticed, shame because they were once an interesting car manufacturer up with Honda and Toyota. The Mitsubushi Shogun/Pajero were well regarded 4x4's too.
@@nk53nxg Exactly... But they're doing well with the PHEV Outlander in the US, have a new generation L200/Ttriton pickup with a twin turbo 2.4 litre, 4 cylinder diesel coming, the Shogun/Pajero Sport holds it's own against the Fortuner and Ranger and there's a new 7 seat SUV promised to investors... I'm driving a 2015 Shogun, 3.2 diesel (largest 4 cylinder ever put into a passenger vehicle!)... They're not disappearing just yet...
@@bruce7890 They do still sell cars in Europe but in a very reduced markets, the Colt is a rebadged Renault Clio & the ASX is a rebadged Renault Captur.
Wow! I had one of the first batch - I still miss it - it looked so cool with the pop up lights. I let it go as the electricals started acting up and fuel costs were crazy. Still love it - legend car
The ones in brighter colors really showed off the styling and looks of the car - it was a chick magnet for sure
11:30 nice Nikes
It wasn't forgotten, it's a ticking time bomb and everyone knows it.. I owned a 97 vr4... they are great cars until they spin a bearing. Like the 300zx tt I had also... That's why you never see them on the road these days. They've all blown the motor.... not forgotten... not worth buying... two very different things.
was it $118000 in 1990? You could buy half the australia with this much money back then
no series 1 $90000 , series 3 was $118000
Paucity of remanufactured spares for 90s JDM...will come eventually though?
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We love to see it
This is the first review l have seen done on the Mitsubishi 3000 GT good stuff
It is possible to change the valve guide seals without removing the heads. Common stuff on those engines
Valve stem seals are bloody easy to fix. It isnt a big job
I love this car but they’re a pain in the ass to fix.
Spotted the Fiesta ST in the intro scene. Please do an episode on this epic hot hatch, which is sadly discontinued
They've done reviews on the Mk7 and Mk8 Fiesta ST's
I have a white Mk7, and got excited when I spotted the one in the background lol
Magna Ralliart be a good vid
I agree
Hey ReDriven, was my Bluff called! ?? - AK
Anyway, this is another great video, keep them coming guys.
I owned on these in VR4 trim, same shape and colour as featured example in the video. Even though mine was a abused example that needed work and therefore was cheap for me to buy, that machine was a such a blast. It drives like it`s glued to the road, and was actually really comfy to drive too, not at quite same level as my 2003 Volvo S60 but really not that far behind either. I miss that car so much and regret selling it.
stop it, I was looking at one of these and now the price is going to go up
This is by far my favourite car. Ever since i was a little boy standing on the roof of my grandads garden shed i remember seeing the neighbour across the road with a blue GTO. It looked like a Ferarri for me. Ever since then i've wanted one and im 40 now lol
should you buy one ? not unless you're ready to sell a kidney to have it fully sorted, but otherwise, it's an absolute monster.
it's like if the NSX and the R34 had a baby
My experience, and answer to this video's question.... Everything goes wrong. Buy one anyway.
This test will be the closest that Redriven will get to testing the '380 '.
What a car, always loved Mitsubishi’s big V6.
I own a couple of modified 6G75 powered Magna’s, both manual.
One of them worked with big cams, it’s certainly a quick and fun car to drive
Get the Mitsubishi, my 2002, 3.8 lt Pajero has 340,000 clicks on the clock and no problems. Still wonderful car to drive.
lol because that has anything to do with a 3000gt. which are known for spinning rod bearings and blowing motors... and guess what unlike Porsche's that had that issue, much like Nissans that had it, there is no fix... just repair and wait for it to happen again.
I absolutely LOVE the look of that interior. Looks so solid, and if it still had the stock head unit, I would have had to change my pants.
Great video, guys.
Perfect thumbnail. I don’t remember this car at..all..
It's a shame you didn't have a manual to test, I remember the gearbox being pretty great. My GTO was a Japanese import otherwise it would have been named the 3000GT here in the UK. Everything on the interior was awesome but the ECU popped twice in 6 months so I got rid of it, that and changing the spark plugs meant removing the entire top of the engine to get to the rear 3 plugs, that annoyed me beyond words. Mine was the gen 1, 4wd naturally aspirated. As mentioned in the video, taking the head off is quite common.
That said, it's the JDM car I would buy again over all the others, I just prefer the way it looks unless it's a red one, the paint really fades badly and looks f'ing awful.
I love them better that gtr and supra maybe a bit under the rx7
What about the power folding hardtop? Or didn't you get those in Australia?
I'm pretty sure those were US exclusives, and extremely rare.
Never sold here - Aussie blokes don't drive convertibles. No matter how big the donk is, with the top down, any car becomes the hairdresser's version.
@@johnphaceas7434 you guys have issues
@@kevinbarry71 Not judging, just stating the way it is here. We probably have one of the lowest per capita shares of convertibles in the western world.
@@johnphaceas7434 OK. It does look like you have good convertible weather though
heavy beast but an amazing car.
Would be keen to see a review of the turbo version - anything with links to a Magna has to be dubious
thats an automatic! Who the hell wants that?! I own a 93 Stealth TT! 65K Miles
I had one of these! Bought it as its first NZ Owner ex Japan. It was reliable while I had it too, serviced every 7500KM. Had it for 3 years. Was such a thirsty beast, but worth it for the vibes.
This vehicle is not forgotten by those with long memories
I thought these only came in red, lol
So Underated
First gen doesnt have passenger air bag lol
Series 1 has a recall for the Box, free replacement from Mitsubishi.
Still valid?
@@blairedmonds6374 As far as I know they have to lol.
Jim is exactly the first mechanic I've heard say these are reliable. I love Jim but now I'm conflicted and confused. 3000GT VR4s are pretty expensive here in the States, which are the only AWD ones we got. Most are beaten and have a ton of shitty mods too. It's unfortunate.
He is a moron. they are not reliable. they spin rod bearings.. that's why you never see them these days. everyone that owned one had an engine blow and decided the money pit was no longer worth it.. speaking form experience. that's like claiming and fd rx7 is reliable or a tt 300zx reliable... lololol. they are not...
Another car to bring back to memory is the A70 supra, worth consideration.
Once you get past the 7M head gasket problem, they're a great, good looking car with real street presence
Based on the same platform as the Mitsubishi Magna hence we got 4wd in the last era of Magna in Australia.
How is this car the flagship car of Mitsubishi. I thought the EVO was the flagship
Hi Guys, love the channel. Would you guys be interested in reviewing my used Turbo Toyota 86 GTS.
First the Viper now this......shit yehhhhhhh
Didn't see that. Doing Benny's viper is cheating.
All this time and people still can’t make videos about these cars without a bunch of wrong info lol
Feel free to let us know what we got wrong
@@ReDriven
No one calls a 3000gt a stealth in the US they call the dodge stealth the dodge stealth, your statement makes it sound like the 3000gt doesn’t exist in the states. Also all base models in the US are FWD the only AWD “base” modes are the Japanese ones.
The all wheel steering doesnt activate until above 50kmh so I don’t get how that helps you get into drive ways or reverse parking. It was included to assist in highway speed lane changes. Doesn’t really help the handling much at all. Hence why it was deleted from the MR models from factory and most people that race these get a delete kit.
Valve stem seals, the heads dont have to come off you can either make a tool yourself from some off cuts and a hook or you can buy the specialty tool that Mitsubishi made themselves to get the job done. You replace them with the valve stem seals from the 99 models and also replace the lifters from the same year model as they tend to tick. It is cheap so I don’t know what that mechanic is talking about. I did it on mine and 5000km later when I did get the heads redone as i was rebuilding the entire engine the machine shop had no issues with my heads they just got a nice clean. The issues with the heads is from when your pushing over 800whp they tend to bend under the high cylinder pressures but that’s fixed by a simple drill and weld on the tiny part of the heads that’s responsible for that issue due to the material being a bit thin near a water channel.
The ECUs you could get jester or the other flash ecu brand that’s a clone of the 98/99 ECU and were pretty cheap.
Transfer cases, the case material is an issue wether it’s steel or aluminium the real problem with the early models is the output shaft being 18 spline vs 24 for the late 92 models and up, the tcase braces generally help but to really have peace of mind you have to replace with an aftermarket billet case and convert it from 18 spline to 24 and with 300M output shaft. The 5 speed t cases might have a weaker case but the gears tend to last better. The 5 speed gearboxes are actually stronger than the 6 speeds so it’s a kinda pick you mode of death situation. Best driveline from factory was the late 92 to 93 model, 5 speed box 24 spline output shaft steel tcase housing. You don’t need carbon syncros…. Geez man they make factory repro syncros.
You guys keep talking about shitty mods, what is a shitty mod? Knock off rims from Tempe tyres ? Fake HKS bovs? Timing belt from temu?
Dollar for dollar they aren’t better than your R32s or supras, US supras come with bigger fuel systems as do R32s. Sure the R32s have ceramic turbine wheels which can be a bit of a gamble but at least you can just plug and play some garrets in there. Single turbo kits are cheap as chips for supras too. The GTO has a piss weak fuel system 360cc injectors and a barely functioning fuel pump, the standard turbos on most cars are just 9bs which are way smaller than both the R32 and supra. Mine was an aus delivered car which at least came with 13g turbos from factory so I could at least hit 400whp on those. And if you want to make decent power it’s a good chunk of money as the turbine housings are tiny so custom headers are a must to either vband or td05 or t25. None of the Japanese tuners make bolt on turbos for them like they did for evo/gtr/supra. If 500whp is enough for you though they aren’t too bad plenty of bolt on turbos can manage that.
Out of the gate the worst of the Japanese halo cars ? Debatable the MR version had a faster 1/4 mile time than both the supra and r32, I’d say the handling stock is probably somewhere in the middle of the supra and r32 gtr (I’ve owned all 3).
The whole rep they get that they are hard to work on is a bit weird, I didn’t find it any harder to work on than my r32 gtr. The difficulty I think is that 99% of mechanics had no idea and will just straight up charge you an arm and a leg to do anything on them from their reputation. The US is a bit better for them quite a few shops know them well but I don’t know if they are even still around these days. But in Sydney forget it, learn how to do it yourself or buy a gtr/evo instead.
You also missed one of the biggest issues with them which is the oil pumps/spun bearings from mechanics jacking up the car by the sump, make sure you check the sump for dents otherwise you’re up for a new engine. The timing belt isn’t any more of an issue than any other car…
Cheers for the input!
Nightmare to work on, very heavy, very wide, Mitsubishi build quality/reliability. All the reason why people don't care much for them.
hey keep these on the low. i wanna still be able to buy a good one of these when im actually making money.
MR2 doesn’t get a mention?? 😮
Plz plz plz do a video on FK civics❤
Nice 350z in the garage
There is no way that car new is 118,940 with 222 hp lmaoooo
pretty sure he was talking about the twin turbo model , had significantly more power but i doubt it was a six figure car brand new
Everyone was terrified of the complexity in the 90s and early 00s. And back then, the GTR and Supra were easier to modify. Even though the Supra wasn't the fire breathing animal that most are today back then.
The RX7 and 300ZX were better looking too.
It wasn't and isn't a bad car. It just had great competition in a crowded marketplace. And tbh, many Mitsi buyers probably figured the Evo was cheaper and faster and more practical.
3000GT and 300zx are the sleeprs of the JDM sports car scene BEST CARS EVER
There was a crazy time in my life I had twin turbo versions of both. Many days stuck under the hood but so worth it!
hi mr redriven. I HAVE A 2005 LEXUS GS430 WITH A 4.3L V8 IN MELNOURNE.
review me
Sydney or Newcastle only
Regular Car Reviews tried to convince us these are reliable.
Yeah, this is a sober version of rcr. And Australian
@@Low760 youre quite correct.
Because they just don't regurgitate comments others whisper... They are no more or less reliable than any of the big JDM heroes of the 90s.
Was my favourite car in gran tourismo ps1 game. 😊
They weigh as much as a small moon.
Bloody awful.
Get a JDM STI instead.
the gto was way ahead of its time with all the technology in the 90s. I absolutely loved this car
Was one of the cars I was considering lately, have always been a fan but life got in the way, decided against it but still think they're great cars
It's fwd based. No good overall
Please do a review of a 350Z, like the one in the background of Jim’s
Cool looking things but the reason I think they were mostly forgotten is because compared to its contemporaries it was pretty disappointing to drive, and all of the tech stuff just added weight without actually improving its performance.
ETA: I had admittedly made this comment before I got to the driving section. I will just say though Adam that yeah it's supposed to be a GT car but it's main competition was the 300ZX (to a lesser extent the GT-R, but realistically the GT-R was just a whole other ball game) and A80 Supra. The Supra was of course a bit more on the "sporty" side of GT but the 300ZX in particular was just a better all-rounder while doing it with half the electronic shit that the Mitsu had and, as a result, a much more reasonable pricetag.
I would totally love to get a Series III GTO though, even if only because it's like peak late-90s Japanese design.
They are awesome
Franz Beckenbauer edition!? Yeah baby 😂
if you ever get the chance you should check out more celicas, especially the 4th-5th gen,,,,pretty please
Interesting never seen a cream headliner in a black interior car well at least not in the GTO’s here , absolute shame it’s a AT these in their 6 speed MT with boost are a pleasure to drive. Just as long as you have the the lock bar for the rear steering 😂 but I have to admin the interior has aged heaps verse other cars of the same age.
Very nice " just simply beautiful...
Could please do A review on the 2010 RSMK2 FORD FOCUS 🎉
The wide bodied starion was my favourite. Here in the UK I don't think I've seen a 3000gt or starion on the road in 20 years.
There’s still quite a few there with an active online community for parts and knowledge.
Just watched top gear aus.... I reckon they should have had you instead of Beau, Adam.....
You should drive a built NA one of these to get an idea of what these are capable of lol.
please when is a Jaguar f type gonna get redriven....🙃?
I had my twin turbo version reviewed a little while ago, owned for over 17 years now. Put the elbow grease in and they will keep going without issue, treat it like crap and... Well, big bills.
The transfer case in the early ones wasn't so much that it was like cheese, it's the shaft that drove it, being 18 spline (later models were 25) it had the tendency to sheer splines after much misuse or exaggerated dropping the clutch. If it's taken care of like mine, it's still going after 34 years. Although I'm not expecting miracles... I have a spare shaft ready to go if it ever does decide to give in. Also seeing though I was 21 when I got it, def put it through it's paces, and the case never broke. Still love the car.
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Have to admit that I thought these would be more expensive to buy than they are when I saw the which car today's video was on.
Shame that shitty mods, dickhead former owners and parts availability are going against this forgotten gem as it'd probably be an ideal project car for someone that has the time and money to spend on it
The safety features overview kinda reminded me of GTA Vice City for some reason.
Brilliant job as always guys and as always keep up the good work and look forward to next week's videos as per usual 👍