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  • @spaceman4286
    @spaceman4286 2 роки тому +60

    That sperg and tbag against that mage was top 10 cringe anime moment.

    • @Dautar748
      @Dautar748 11 місяців тому +5

      You got owned lol

  • @averageds3player699
    @averageds3player699 2 роки тому +98

    I think, because everything has crazy range crazy speed and running activates faster after attacks, spacing becomes straight up running away because you are always still in range

    • @pcbangbros8350
      @pcbangbros8350 2 роки тому +19

      And it's impossible to dodge anything without rolling, you can be twice the weapons length away and get hit by that phantom range.

    • @johncrow5072
      @johncrow5072 2 роки тому +2

      @@holyspear26 Yeah - offstoc covers that blindspot nicely. Brutal, like kicking a porcupine.

    • @HopelessEvenings
      @HopelessEvenings 2 роки тому

      Spacing is still a strong element of this game, there's just some extra things that make it less of an absolute mechanic, like passive poise that you have to manage and more options to get into people (DS3 was in dire need of more approach options) There's honestly also a really strong build factor as if your character just doesn't do enough damage/poise damage for the matchup your options get severely reduced and people can kinda just sprint at you and aggress with impunity, where if the two builds are more evenly matched, it resembles a more normal fight and spacing becomes stronger.

    • @hitbox_91
      @hitbox_91 2 роки тому

      Yes, can relate to that.
      Once I stood as double as far as the opponents weapon blade length and it hit me. 👍

    • @shoutykenneth5115
      @shoutykenneth5115 2 роки тому +1

      Plenty of weapons just seem to have bugged hitboxes too. The Nightrider glaive has an absolutely absurd amount of phantom range on it's running attack, but it's consistent enough that I'm pretty sure there's more going on than regular phantom range fuckery.

  • @JohnShire387
    @JohnShire387 2 роки тому +145

    I wonder if they will ever make the colossal GS crouch poke parryable in a future patch or make it complete garbage.

    • @Dark_kage
      @Dark_kage 2 роки тому +24

      They'll probably not do anything to it or nerf it like Moonveil

    • @macthemilitant
      @macthemilitant 2 роки тому +46

      I like how GS poke are unparryable but Colossal weapons R2s are?!?!? Make it make sense

    • @BilliamTorpedo
      @BilliamTorpedo 2 роки тому +22

      That's literally all it would take to fix it. Damage, speed, stagger in PvE, cool but why isn't it parryable

    • @n00boob89
      @n00boob89 2 роки тому +3

      @@BilliamTorpedo literally
      Why is it it not parry able like bruh WHY

    • @DeathDestroyer90
      @DeathDestroyer90 2 роки тому +1

      @@Dark_kage mv didn’t get nerfed it was left untouched

  • @godefroiddebouillon7769
    @godefroiddebouillon7769 2 роки тому +25

    Obnoxious is a good word to describe Elden Ring's meta right now, I hope it will change.

    • @hitbox_91
      @hitbox_91 Рік тому

      Well, it didn't.
      But meta is always kinda obnoxious. Think of DS3: ss R1, pkcs, murky, gundyr...

    • @pngun-gd9yb
      @pngun-gd9yb 9 місяців тому

      and it will get worse with the dlc

  • @pandemonium2536
    @pandemonium2536 2 роки тому +43

    "This is so cheesy to be honest"
    He says while using exclusively greatsword pokes

    • @digitalesklassenzimmer7278
      @digitalesklassenzimmer7278 2 роки тому

      I dont really get that. Crouch pokes were strong back in the days but you could handle it quite good if you know what you do. Those speels are often retarded, especially when you can just spam 3 in a row and get true combos out of it. That is the real cheese. Good players rarely get caught by multiple crouch pokes..

    • @pandemonium2536
      @pandemonium2536 2 роки тому

      @@digitalesklassenzimmer7278 Could it be handled? Sure. That doesn't make it any less cheesy, The fact of the matter is that people would go around using exclusively pokes and get rewarded for it since it was the objectively best UGS move

    • @dhiznutz8926
      @dhiznutz8926 2 роки тому +9

      The other guy was exploiting spells that allowed him to cast spells immediately after one another. That's cheesy. You calling a greatsword poke "cheesy" just goes to show me that you aren't skilled enough to dodge an easy reactionary crouch poke
      But either way, they both knew each other, so it doesn't even really matter. They both knew they were using dishonest builds and were shitting on each other for fun, as mentioned in the video

    • @pandemonium2536
      @pandemonium2536 2 роки тому +4

      @@dhiznutz8926 Just because the mage was also using cheese doesn't make using exclusively the best attack of a weapon (Which was ugs poke for the ugs before the nerf) and nothing else any less cheese.
      Also if it was an "Easy reactionary crouch poke" crouch pokes wouldn't have gotten knee capped and brought in line. They were objectively better than any of the other ugs moves at the time before the nerf.

    • @lellus7138
      @lellus7138 2 роки тому

      @@pandemonium2536 man you can’t deal with jeenine slaves they do everything to defend him

  • @007massey
    @007massey 2 роки тому +46

    How do you call a mage build cheese when you're spamming UGS crouch pokes and nothing else on top of using the regen flask? T-bagging and talking shit after is just lame. You survived bc you got one last tick of regen as you traded, and you're full of shit if you call that "calculated." Everyone hopping on the meta bandwagon and bitching about the chaincasting "glitch" when we don't know if it even actually is. Who's to say it isn't intended or a new tech that was discovered? Regardless, Painted was even using the worse version of Stars as well. Good to see the karma of you getting clapped by 2 melee builds after.

    • @TheTurt
      @TheTurt 2 роки тому +10

      It’s a broken unbalanced mess. Everything is either ridiculously broken or underwhelmingly weak. Like Jee said in the video, ER PvP is a match of who has the better set up. Painted’s setup was superior, so Jee had to change his to compete.

    • @Beardedmane901
      @Beardedmane901 2 роки тому +1

      I mean it’s Elden ring bruh this ain’t no MLG standard game there’s no skill envolved it’s just for shitts and giggles just have fun and laugh

    • @egoriquez2217
      @egoriquez2217 2 роки тому +29

      When I first started watching his vids I thought his complaints were valid and some still are, but he spams some irritating bullshit 2 hits build at it’s completely justified in his eyes but the second someone starts winning a fight against them he starts bitching about their build and how they’re cheesing, and then starts trash talking them if he beats them like a sore loser

    • @007massey
      @007massey 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheTurt I get that it's unbalanced, and I understand the concept of setups and matchups but you can't say he auto loses if his setup is worse, that's completely subjective. Balance is also relative. The closer the skill of two players, the more balance or setup actually matters. Just like RoB or Moonveil in a gank setting is entirely different from a duel. One of the reasons I started watching Jee and liked his videos was that he was always adapting to his opponents. That being said, sometimes it's more fun to see someone be skilled without them having to change setups to counter an opponent. Fighting from a disadvantage and winning, or just taking the L. Also provides a better chance at learning counterplay. Take Chase in his weapon showcases for example. He never equips a shield to parry someone, weapon swaps, or uses any items. He only uses that specific weapon, regardless. That's something that shows more skill than just fast swapping to something easier to use in the situation. On top of that, 99% of Jee's videos that I've seen are pure melee. Sometimes using something is the best way to figure out a counter.

    • @007massey
      @007massey 2 роки тому +19

      @@egoriquez2217 That's what I'm sadly starting to see more and more of as I watch his videos. He's almost painting himself out to be one of the stereotypical elitist or tryhard PvPers, Idk man. It's fun watching someone who's good at the game but when they're metaslaves, one trick ponies, or just have shitty attitudes, I'd rather just watch someone who takes the game less seriously like Oro, Prod, etc.

  • @campernocamping1
    @campernocamping1 2 роки тому +7

    Whoever the guy at the end was, I hope you do tournaments my guy, because that was an absolutely cracked display of skill.

  • @equilibrium5280
    @equilibrium5280 2 роки тому +12

    Reject bull goat white mask RoB, return to Banished Greathelm Knight Serpent Hunter. That man was a beast absolutely *DRIPPIN* as he danced and spaced out the court with aggression and feints

  • @seanbecraft8088
    @seanbecraft8088 2 роки тому +52

    I was lucky enough to duel G9 here. However, I was completely shit on and made a mistake resulting in me getting ass blasted. 😥

    • @johncrow5072
      @johncrow5072 2 роки тому +1

      Did you make it on the reel though?

    • @seanbecraft8088
      @seanbecraft8088 2 роки тому +31

      @@johncrow5072 Nah, the video is called good players lmao

  • @NapalMDeatH1605
    @NapalMDeatH1605 2 роки тому +23

    Man I love watching your invasion streams, but I gotta say, tbagging and shittalk in the arena against any type of opponent is top cringe energy 😬

    • @BoltJamison
      @BoltJamison 2 роки тому +1

      I think he knows the dude so it was all in good fun and not done maliciously

    • @miraqen7801
      @miraqen7801 2 роки тому +1

      I find your comment to be even more cringe lmao

  • @ZorroLocoStudios
    @ZorroLocoStudios 2 роки тому +15

    Chain casting is literally the only thing that makes magic viable in PVP. It shouldn't be cheating, considering it's up against UGS poke and L2 spammers, and it costs insane FP to do anyway.

  • @kingalaric4431
    @kingalaric4431 Рік тому +1

    Remember kids, just because something can be used in a true-combo, it doesn't make it cheese.

  • @mag4208
    @mag4208 2 роки тому +5

    That 2nd mage got mad skillz

  • @bingbong1919
    @bingbong1919 2 роки тому +37

    Chain casting looks scary to play against

    • @messagefromtheKing10
      @messagefromtheKing10 2 роки тому +22

      It is. Especially catch flame into magma breath into honed bolt. Or Radagan triple rings into honed bolt... Really anything that involves honed bolt. A rule of thumb that you should always have in your head is that if they have rock sling or catch flame they are going to have honed bolt.

    • @Ennui-q5i
      @Ennui-q5i 2 роки тому

      @@messagefromtheKing10 I mostly run into bestial sling to honed bolt, it's fucking nasty.

    • @Ennui-q5i
      @Ennui-q5i 2 роки тому

      If they hit the first one honed bolt they they will also hit the second honed bolt if you roll after getting hit.

    • @killwoodii3042
      @killwoodii3042 2 роки тому

      Beast sling 2 lightning strike 2 three rings 2 honed bolt is insane.

    • @killwoodii3042
      @killwoodii3042 2 роки тому

      But honestly, I think magic chaincasts are way more crazy. The blood magic combo build is truly uncanny.

  • @Ebb0Productions
    @Ebb0Productions 2 роки тому +9

    I don't see the appeal of running in circles and switching weapons and talismans until you find one that counters the enemy setup.
    That's the meta I dislike the most.

    • @spaceman4286
      @spaceman4286 2 роки тому +8

      It's mostly tryhards that play to absolutely win. Most do not hardswap 20 weapons and 50 talismans.

  • @Jozai610
    @Jozai610 2 роки тому +12

    GG! I was the first guy

  • @paintedphantoms625
    @paintedphantoms625 2 роки тому +62

    Ggs, I was testing the thorn spells trying to make them work then I found out that one thorn spell true combos into comet so wanted to test it out and what do you know you were the first sign I saw lmfao but was fun. And nice tea bag I was planning on doing the same thing to you lmfao 😂
    And also no idea if ur having trouble finding stuff that’s actually fun to play and I agree whole heartily agree that this game whoever has the better build wins it’s a lot less about skill. Sad times.

    • @eleru777
      @eleru777 2 роки тому +3

      You did good man. Had he not used regen, ill call it for him. But you won that one. Spells being beefy aint excuse to heal in dual.

    • @guenievreblanchedesainte-c1761
      @guenievreblanchedesainte-c1761 2 роки тому +2

      @@eleru777 as a spellcaster, I always have Law of Regression reserved for buffers lol (especially the ones that do 1000 buffs). It’s a must-have in PvP imo!

    • @Samura1313
      @Samura1313 2 роки тому +11

      @@eleru777 Passive heal buffs were never forbidden in any previous souls game, though. The only reason estus is forbidden in the first place is to make it fair for everyone, because duelists have estus halved. Not mentioning that for pure melee builds there's not many options for offensive physick buffs. Mages have the +20% magic damage, but there's no +20% physical damage physick, so a mage can have +10 INT and +20% magic damage and maximize damage, while a melee build has only +10 Strength, for example. The other one will have to be defensive.

    • @eleru777
      @eleru777 2 роки тому +1

      @@guenievreblanchedesainte-c1761 Your a better man than me. I may do one or two buffs and ill let my opponet get off three but more than that and ill start the attack. I aint got all day cause you need to negate my magic and set up your one shot kill

    • @HopelessEvenings
      @HopelessEvenings 2 роки тому +1

      I think there's still a strong skill factor you just need to hit a certain "build floor" so to speak, the best way to explain it is that you need to have a build that doesn't get in the way of your skill due to being too inferior.

  • @averageds3player699
    @averageds3player699 2 роки тому +23

    at first I was afraid the "really good viewers" in the title were going to be the mage spammers, really glad it wasn't

    • @peestoredinballs
      @peestoredinballs 2 роки тому +16

      those "mage spammers" shown in the video are really good players

    • @SirWetBiscuit
      @SirWetBiscuit 2 роки тому +8

      @@peestoredinballs Eh. They're good, but sorcery feels cheesier than ever in this game what with how everything blends together. Carian Slicer really pisses me off since it's already so easy to chase people down in ER. Then they will inevitably cast Comet or whatever right after and it comes out stupid fast. It just looks ridiculous and most definitely unintended with how quick spells cast/blend. Halberd or Great Rapier + spells in offhand is easily the most obnoxious thing to deal with in this game (for me) outside of the obvious massive problems (BHS, bleed proc stunlock etc.). It's like the next worst thing that I'm sure will be the normie setup once the other stuff is patched out.
      I should also mention that I'm just lazy and don't want to run in circles for several minutes so I don't die to some ridiculous combo in 2 seconds

    • @guts2630
      @guts2630 2 роки тому +6

      @@SirWetBiscuit Whilst magic is high damage and combo casting is strong, carian retaliation and magic barrier are a thing, and are very strong. Sorcery has very strong strengths and very strong counters unlike bleed nagis and BHS which have no true counter.

    • @averageds3player699
      @averageds3player699 2 роки тому +1

      @@peestoredinballs any medium level player with those builds can play that well

    • @peestoredinballs
      @peestoredinballs 2 роки тому +1

      @@averageds3player699 incorrect

  • @sutch2607
    @sutch2607 2 роки тому +48

    Calling people cheese when you run around in circles playing completely reactively only doing crouch pokes... At least second guy was being unique with an assortment of spells.

    • @BillyBob-pl5lr
      @BillyBob-pl5lr 2 роки тому +15

      Jeenine is the most toxic elden ring UA-camr tbh

    • @digitalesklassenzimmer7278
      @digitalesklassenzimmer7278 2 роки тому

      I dont really get that. Crouch pokes were strong back in the days but you could handle it quite good if you know what you do. Those speels are often retarded, especially when you can just spam 3 in a row and get true combos out of it. That is the real cheese. Good players rarely get caught by multiple crouch pokes.

    • @ochitakishi2350
      @ochitakishi2350 2 роки тому +4

      90% of the Elden Ring pvpers. Complain while using the most Meta toxic builds. Love his videos though.

    • @Male_Gaze
      @Male_Gaze Рік тому +4

      Tbf he didn't say what he was using isn't cheesy.

    • @Dautar748
      @Dautar748 11 місяців тому +7

      Thats how youre supposed to play, or do you think walking in a straight line and trading is what skill is?

  • @aaronrhodes9733
    @aaronrhodes9733 2 роки тому +15

    Bro, everyone is talking about meta mage builds being too op. Stop crying ppl and try it for yourself’s. I find it extremely fun. There’s a difference between spamming spells and combining 2/3 spells to catch your opponent off guard

    • @lukelofquist3734
      @lukelofquist3734 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, the difference is you press the switch spell button

  • @illholdthemoff
    @illholdthemoff 2 роки тому +23

    greatswords, hammers and axes got done so badly in this game, no idea what they were thinking

    • @SmallAxolotl
      @SmallAxolotl 2 роки тому +21

      Ofcoarse Katana got all the love again. Read the basic hammer description and you will know how much Fromsoft disrespects hammers.
      Club description:
      "A simple, primitive weapon that requires only brute strength and persistence to hammer your foe into the ground."
      Compared to this
      Uchigatana description:
      The blade, with its undulating design, boasts extraordinary sharpness, and its slash attacks cause blood loss.

    • @laurence_lookmyr
      @laurence_lookmyr 2 роки тому +6

      @@SmallAxolotl what did you want them to say? It’s a club lol

    • @SmallAxolotl
      @SmallAxolotl 2 роки тому +3

      @@laurence_lookmyr I want them to show the same disrespect to the crap weeb steel.

    • @laurence_lookmyr
      @laurence_lookmyr 2 роки тому +7

      @@SmallAxolotl it’s a literal piece of wood someone just found laying around vs an actual sword WITH A SECONDARY EFFECT
      For a fair comparison the morning star’s description is “Warhammer comprised of a globe attached to a handle. Though a bludgeon dealing strike damage, the appellative star covered. in spikes which cause blood loss.
      Ironic given its grace name, this weapon often reeks of blood.”
      A lot closer now isn’t it? I swear you guys will look for any excuse lol. AND TO KILL your point here’s the description of the zweihander “Just about the largest sword a mere man is capable of swinging. True to its name, it is designed to be wielded in both hands, but those of merely ordinary strength will still struggle to do so.
      The long blade is heavy and sharp, sending foes reeling back with its broader strokes, while also capable of a devastating piercing thrust.”

    • @SmallAxolotl
      @SmallAxolotl 2 роки тому +1

      @@laurence_lookmyr You don't have to simp so hard for your weeb sword. We're camparing the basic Hammer weapon with not just the descriptions but also how hammers have a history of always being low tier weapon while Katana's get all the love and care.
      Ultra and Colossal (except for Ultra Sword Crouch poke now) are also low tier and you'll often have easier time duel wielding katana's or other "small weapons"(except hammers they suck even when duel wielded) in Elden ring.
      You have to take everything like moveset ,speed, weapon arts, damage, reach and description into account to know how From's been respectful or careless with everything that's not a Katana. Two of the most overused weapons are Moonveil and Rivers of blood, they nerfed Sword of Night and Flame but not their beloved Nippon steel, coincidence? I think not.

  • @BlueeCatss
    @BlueeCatss 2 роки тому +9

    My man complains about chain casting but only chrouch pokes giant hunt greatswords and then t bags lol

  • @JayGarlic840
    @JayGarlic840 2 роки тому +11

    When has animation cancelling of spells/incantations been cheesy? And crouch-GS poke is pretty dirty as well. I really really like jeenine as a player but I feel like he complains about cheese and then cheeses which is like don’t bitch about it if you’re gonna do it yourself. Just do it. That’s the way elden ring is and at this point you can’t do anything about it. Sometimes his incessant whining about everything really gets to me tbh
    But AGAIN I really like jeenine as a player and I CANNOT deny his skill.

    • @Vicidius
      @Vicidius 2 роки тому

      Briar of Sin comboing into comet is cheesy. Jeenine acknowledges when he's fighting cheese with cheese.

    • @JayGarlic840
      @JayGarlic840 2 роки тому

      @@Vicidius by that logic isn’t bestial sling into honed bolt cheesy too then?

    • @static2634
      @static2634 2 роки тому +6

      @@JayGarlic840 yes, it is. congrats you got his point.

    • @Vicidius
      @Vicidius 2 роки тому

      @@JayGarlic840 the consistency, damage, and speed aren't even close

    • @JayGarlic840
      @JayGarlic840 2 роки тому

      @@static2634 no I agree with him I think it’s all cheese tbh

  • @mizzlehd8742
    @mizzlehd8742 2 роки тому +4

    Painted rocking the filthy mage, guy's always been a fan of alternative setups and funny pseudocombos

  • @dhzinck
    @dhzinck 2 роки тому +29

    I like how you have HP regen, only crouch poke, then teabag after barely winning while calling them a scrub. Is that PvP community I keep hearing about?

    • @TheTurt
      @TheTurt 2 роки тому +4

      You realize the guy Jee was fighting had a pretty scummy setup and abusing a possible glitch (Idk if chain casting different spells is a glitch so correct me if I am wrong) Unfortunately, ER is a game where you must fight cancer with cancer

    • @kevinhernandezretana2170
      @kevinhernandezretana2170 2 роки тому +1

      bruh, the opponent was exploiting instant casting - they're definitely fucking scrubs; and every video game has shit talkers online. New to the internet?

    • @visual_4ids396
      @visual_4ids396 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah he did that on someone who has counters to literally every playstyle. Get too close? His carian slicer deals upwards of 400 dmg. Too far? Well now you can't hit him while he can cast spells all day

    • @PulpyUnknown
      @PulpyUnknown 2 роки тому +23

      It’s his buddy lol he was joking

  • @TheTurt
    @TheTurt 2 роки тому +6

    The only thing I still haven't figured out is whether or not chain casting different spells is a glitch or not. On one end it looks like an intended feature, but then there are some spells that were obviously not intended to be chain casted like running catch flame into dragon claw (makes dragonclaw invisible and instant).
    It also feels like chain casting different spells could be a bit broken since you can bypass some of the longer animations that usually balance out stronger spells as well as making reaction times a lot more shorter.

    • @clrl936
      @clrl936 2 роки тому +10

      Chaincasting is not a glitch. But can lead to a glitch
      For example, casting beastial sling into Honed bolt is not a glitch and works as intended. But if you cast bestial sling twice (or roll/run before casting bestial sling one time) and then follow up with honed bolt, then it will glitch out. In the first case, the initial part of honed bolt animation is shortened (like intended) and the spell comes faster, but in the second case there is no animation at all and the bolt is not even visible

    • @SmallAxolotl
      @SmallAxolotl 2 роки тому +7

      @ZatonZopilote No, casting different spells is intended. If you fools had your way, casting would be useless again.

    • @nickjr8462
      @nickjr8462 2 роки тому +4

      I think it is intended but only for some of it. Like Carian slicer into piercer or greatsword or Adula's. But i think Carian into sin of Briar or other was never intended. Catch flame into Magma is i think not intended. I found this way earlier before the Meta but i never abused it
      I only do Carian slicer into Piercer or into Adula, or swift glintstone into Comet in duels and invasions. Now catch flame into dracon claw is indeed a glitch

    • @TheTurt
      @TheTurt 2 роки тому

      Chain casting was removed apparently

    • @clrl936
      @clrl936 2 роки тому

      @ZatonZopilote I am fine with the patch though. The only thing I used was lightining bolt into honed bolt in my lightining build and that one still works because the animation is the same

  • @CorpseGrin
    @CorpseGrin Рік тому

    “The cheese meets the other cheese”😂 love it.

  • @XyzgorYT
    @XyzgorYT 2 роки тому +20

    So, ya'll planning on heading back to DS3 pvp when the servers are back up?

    • @fait7686
      @fait7686 2 роки тому +4

      nop

    • @mouaz670
      @mouaz670 2 роки тому +15

      Yes

    • @shinren_
      @shinren_ 2 роки тому +6

      Are the servers even gonna be back up?

    • @kimlee6643
      @kimlee6643 2 роки тому +1

      @@shinren_ Yeah, they've assured so and DS3 will be the first to come up. No dates, so it's anyone's guess when it'll happen.

    • @TheTurt
      @TheTurt 2 роки тому +3

      I’m heading back to Ds2 PvP :D

  • @davidantunes9900
    @davidantunes9900 2 роки тому +9

    I'm 90% sure I've fought that first guy.

    • @rikiponcho
      @rikiponcho 2 роки тому +7

      they all look the same

  • @gregonandon
    @gregonandon 2 роки тому +7

    I think I was dueling (and mostly losing) around the same time. Your videos inspired me to give PvP a try and even inspired my build. I’ve been at a week now and I absolutely love it. Watching your videos changed my experience. Had I gone in blind I’m not sure I would have made it past the initial learning curve or I would have thought BHS and opal bub would be the key lol. I plan to give invasions a try once I’m a bit more consistent in duels.

    • @Rakshael
      @Rakshael 2 роки тому +1

      dude good on you for persevering and trying to do well.

    • @SaabTheFox
      @SaabTheFox 2 роки тому +1

      Invasions are about 80% headache ngl. Good luck in finding them!

    • @gregonandon
      @gregonandon 2 роки тому

      @@holyspear26 Thanks! I appreciate the recommendations.

  • @technologicalwaste7612
    @technologicalwaste7612 2 роки тому +1

    The crouch-toggle-walk with dual greatspears is a nightmare. The constant motion makes it so much harder to react to the already unpredictable crouching L1.

    • @A.I_Bangers
      @A.I_Bangers 2 роки тому

      Just don’t roll as you are getting hit it will make you roll automatically as soon as the animation is possible even if you pressed the button before the roll can happen. Wait then then reaction roll to avoid the endless poke chain.

    • @technologicalwaste7612
      @technologicalwaste7612 2 роки тому

      @@A.I_Bangers My comment was that the constant jerking motion of the technique makes reaction-rolling very difficult.

  • @anhkusy2050
    @anhkusy2050 Рік тому +1

    Don't know why youtube keeps recommending me videos from this guy. I like Chase, not Jeenine

  • @DiscountSupport
    @DiscountSupport 2 роки тому +1

    It was a really nice change to watch actual honest duels that didn't involve spamming l2

  • @-BENYAH
    @-BENYAH 2 роки тому

    2:13 we was using a UA-cam combo carian slicer to bloodthorn to comet seen it on UA-cam

  • @Romstine
    @Romstine 2 роки тому +2

    Phew... Straight up killers at the end there Jeenine. Props to you for showing those defeats! We learn from those as well. :)

  • @unzkipriime4283
    @unzkipriime4283 2 роки тому +2

    everyone will disagree but the healing talisman kinda lame asf

  • @evenaarek1042
    @evenaarek1042 2 роки тому

    I dream of one day landing a Great Serpent Hunt thrust against a full meta level hp opponent and catching them mid attack to one-shot them.

  • @draelos8570
    @draelos8570 2 роки тому +3

    8:02 that was clean holy shit

  • @raminkuntopolku8636
    @raminkuntopolku8636 2 роки тому +1

    These guys out here wavedashing here like they're playing Tekken or something

  • @DASCSWEM
    @DASCSWEM 4 місяці тому

    1:20 Aged perfectly

  • @bigdoggameing1236
    @bigdoggameing1236 2 роки тому +1

    I believe that set up is only half the battle. But knowing the weapons work and knowing how to consistently counter for the way you want to play is were the skill truly comes in. That's why I love high lvl pvp. People have so much they can use and it always keeps it I interesting. But everything as counters

    • @bigdoggameing1236
      @bigdoggameing1236 2 роки тому

      Knowledge is you weapon in this game

    • @bigdoggameing1236
      @bigdoggameing1236 2 роки тому

      Plus I believe the heal rule in the community should be changed. People compare this game to dark souls 3 again and again but they don't co consider that elden ring is just a different game. The devs show again and again with the NPCs. We should have 1 heal per fight. There are lots of time I've almost one shot someone and I believe it would be more I interesting if they could have one heal and maby avoid being hit again. A way to turn the tide.

  • @krazypuffin8638
    @krazypuffin8638 2 роки тому +4

    See, why can't I meet these kinds of people when I'm doing duels, because everyone I meet just spam the same boring spells or use the same generic op weapon with bleed and stuff just to win. Like with me personally, even though I am not that great at pvp, I don't even care when I lose fights, losing is just part of the game. When I fight and lose to people who don't use all these broken weapons, exploits, etc and clearly just outclassed me in terms of skill, I have nothing but respect to them because its clear that they are simply just better than me at the game, which is fair enough. My problem is when I lose fights against people who clearly aren't good at the game, using BHS and other crappy annoying op thing in the game and then proceed to be super toxic. Ofc all of this isn't new, I'm sure many people feel this way too, I'm just here to vent my frustrations.

    • @gardenwarrior5524
      @gardenwarrior5524 2 роки тому

      Good souls pvp requires community especially in elden ring

    • @pcbangbros8350
      @pcbangbros8350 2 роки тому +4

      Yes, but these duels are also premade. Isn't he being summoned with a password? I'm pretty sure the viewers i.e. fans of his channel are spawning him while using honest builds on purpose. There's be no reason to spawn your streamer and try to RoB bullgoats him to death. So you can't compare these to normal people in duels. These are his fans who are most likely not using their normal / usual duel set ups and are instead dueling their favorite streamer for fun. Except the mage guy, the mage guy was out for blood.

    • @krazypuffin8638
      @krazypuffin8638 2 роки тому

      @@pcbangbros8350 yea I understand that, I'm just annoyed at pvp honestly lol

    • @pcbangbros8350
      @pcbangbros8350 2 роки тому +1

      @@krazypuffin8638 You could probably look for some fight clubs with passwords on a Discord or subreddit or something. I've never tried myself but I'm sure they exist. Could be some interesting ones out there with ban lists of certain spells or weapons.

  • @shoutykenneth5115
    @shoutykenneth5115 2 роки тому +2

    I honestly think a good change to pvp could be a slight reduction in speed of basically all thrusting attacks. Anything that pokes has more speed, more range, more damage, and more poise damage, but less recovery, so stuff like axes and maces literally have no point and no advantages at all.

    •  2 роки тому

      Its kinda realistic in this sense, poke/thrust always has been the best attack in real life combat. Sadly elden ring completely ignores any armor mechanics, making axes and maces basically absolutely useless and obsolete, as their main advantage was always "antiarmor".

  • @Aster_True-Fire
    @Aster_True-Fire 2 роки тому +2

    Please for the love of god Jee make a duel Torchpole set up lmao

  • @imjustaquestion9922
    @imjustaquestion9922 2 роки тому +2

    Finally a worthy opponent our battle will be LEGENDARY

  • @user-jd93la049s
    @user-jd93la049s 2 роки тому +6

    nice duels

  • @Wacck
    @Wacck Рік тому

    I know arahkma, used to play bloodborne with em. Neat they're still kicking

  • @Ahmed-ch4fl
    @Ahmed-ch4fl 2 роки тому

    The secound fight 😂😂😂

  • @BlackJack-mw4ik
    @BlackJack-mw4ik 2 роки тому +1

    For those saying dueling at Main Academy Gate is easy, what other spots are there that offer more of a challenge? Genuine question

    • @justwraith999
      @justwraith999 2 роки тому +1

      I have not found one yet

    • @SaabTheFox
      @SaabTheFox 2 роки тому +3

      There aren’t any lol it sucks. I’m so tired of fighting against huge AoE’s in that small ass arena.. PLEASE FROM I need somewhere else

    • @azu1394
      @azu1394 2 роки тому +2

      getting into a discord to find people who are really grinding the game and taking it apart

    • @spaceman4286
      @spaceman4286 2 роки тому

      There were talks for an alternative meeting spot in outside Leyndel, which has a similar circular setting with the added structure in the middle to take cover. I never found any signs there. Unless a popular youtuber starts promoting a different setting or a ER discrod starts something different its Academy gate.

  • @gabf9813
    @gabf9813 2 роки тому

    Whoever has the better setup will edge the other guy LOL

  • @Wisdomv3
    @Wisdomv3 2 роки тому

    We just fought, I knew it was u and started choking but gg 😭😭😭😭

  • @Laaonne
    @Laaonne 2 роки тому

    5:58 these games really need a wider range of verticality in attacks

  • @minty9880
    @minty9880 2 роки тому

    I think our only hope to have any long term fun with this game is in curated duels

  • @XKietseroX
    @XKietseroX 2 роки тому

    Painted would do that when he played a tournament where neither him or the other player attacked each other without perseverance active. And probably caused the limited pers rule lol

  • @Dathaloboii
    @Dathaloboii 2 роки тому

    Why warcry and not Royal knight resolve?

  • @gladz032
    @gladz032 2 роки тому +4

    Chain casting is just OP, shouldn't be allowed on duels, to be honest.

    • @DeathDestroyer90
      @DeathDestroyer90 2 роки тому +1

      Even then there’s stuff like sling and slicer that are very annoying to fight against

    • @BBBerti
      @BBBerti 2 роки тому +7

      Well then magic outside of slicer and piercer is gonna be useless in pvp again

    • @gladz032
      @gladz032 2 роки тому +1

      @@DeathDestroyer90 Yes, facts, a mage chain caster player scares me more than any RoB spammer.

    • @gladz032
      @gladz032 2 роки тому

      @@BBBerti I mean, those spells are annoying but other than that, with enough spacing they could be easily avoidable.

    • @BBBerti
      @BBBerti 2 роки тому +2

      @@gladz032 that's not what I meant, without chain casting almost all other spells becomes useless in pvp again.
      Without chain casting the only viable options are gonna be glintstone shard, slicer and piercer.

  • @HelixSnake
    @HelixSnake 2 роки тому +1

    saying colossal weapons are "honest" is understating it, colossal weapons are Jim Carrey's character in Liar, Liar after the birthday wish

  • @kimlee6643
    @kimlee6643 2 роки тому

    This had some meaty melee fun, goddamn. Nice.

  • @rrraida
    @rrraida 2 роки тому

    Can someone explain that second win to me? Was that one of those second chance physicks I heard about?

    • @hunterlg13
      @hunterlg13 2 роки тому

      Just dumb luck.
      I've had it happen in ds3 where I traded and had like 1 hp and my enemy died. Helps to have blessed ring on for the extra hp though.

    • @eleru777
      @eleru777 2 роки тому

      Regen active.

    • @saligonth
      @saligonth 2 роки тому

      @@hunterlg13 Nah, he got healed by the physick effect.

  • @vanitaz4887
    @vanitaz4887 2 роки тому

    Gotta love the great spears, especially serpent hunter

  • @themonk_fish
    @themonk_fish 2 роки тому +5

    Every vid you spam the same thrust attack over and over then call any other play style trash. Then when you duel a mirror match you get stomped. But no keep preaching Elden ring is broken

    • @spaceman4286
      @spaceman4286 2 роки тому +1

      I found that tbag and cheese-shaming incredibly bad taste considering a good 70% of the content of G9's ER is crouch poke spam. No denying he is a skilled player though.

    • @justasalamander2621
      @justasalamander2621 2 роки тому +1

      Do you two even know what you're talking about?
      1. He's spacing; jump attacks with running attacks and even unlocked predictions
      2. He got stomped??? It was insanely close and he only won because of how easy flaming strike is. Granted he still played great
      And it really really is. Its so unbalanced in pvp its not even funny
      Look at blood hound dash

    • @spaceman4286
      @spaceman4286 2 роки тому

      @@justasalamander2621 Not entirely sure what you on about?

    • @9sIota
      @9sIota 2 роки тому +2

      @@spaceman4286 bro painted has been his long time friend, he was just fucking w him lmao

  • @onyxelite0188
    @onyxelite0188 2 роки тому

    Colossal sword poking and double spear? Bruh thats a no brain ""build"".

  • @CursedPR
    @CursedPR 2 роки тому +1

    So a mage using unique non-meta spells, and NOT spamming them, is cheesy? Whats with all the whinging?

    • @KotMatrosk1n
      @KotMatrosk1n 2 роки тому +1

      wasn't the "slicer-briars-comet" chaincast among the most meta ones? Even i heard about it, and i'm not even a mage.

    • @CursedPR
      @CursedPR 2 роки тому

      @@KotMatrosk1n Well I never heard that being meta. Now do I understand how is cheesy.

  • @MIKlLLA
    @MIKlLLA 2 роки тому

    this game looks beautiful

  • @jiddy30
    @jiddy30 2 роки тому

    He only won because he won.

  • @Molock91
    @Molock91 2 роки тому +1

    You are very good at making someone chase you.

  • @edmundkempin3653
    @edmundkempin3653 2 роки тому

    Great sword poke is real

  • @JayGarlic840
    @JayGarlic840 2 роки тому

    Fuck bro wish I could’ve participated

  • @weakestlifeenjoyer228
    @weakestlifeenjoyer228 2 роки тому +1

    Why don’t people just parry g9

    • @seanbecraft8088
      @seanbecraft8088 2 роки тому +9

      He has omega instincts

    • @emma-rz7mf
      @emma-rz7mf 2 роки тому +10

      parry is kind of useless against good players unless its a hard swap. even then with dual lance the risk is super high for a parry. most good players are unpredictable enough to not be able to hard swap parry.

    • @pcbangbros8350
      @pcbangbros8350 2 роки тому +3

      high risk medium reward. It's hard to anticipate when a good player is going to attack, whilst with bad players you can just assume they're gonna spam L1 the second they think you're in weapon range. So if you mess up a parry on a high level enemy you get punished for probably more damage than what your parry would have even done. You might've parried them and did 700 but if you mess up the parry you're suddenly in a rollcatch chain and taking about 1500 damage.

    • @weakestlifeenjoyer228
      @weakestlifeenjoyer228 2 роки тому

      @@pcbangbros8350 I dunno about medium reward, I’m one shotting bull goat with a + 25 misericorse with fire and ritual sword talisman with dagger talisman

    • @pcbangbros8350
      @pcbangbros8350 2 роки тому

      @@weakestlifeenjoyer228 Yeah, but that sounds specialized around parrying, and even with all of that I highly doubt you're going to land a parry on a player like G9. It's like if I say using blood is medium reward then you tell me: "I don't know about medium reward I have white mask, lord of blood, and seppuku"
      You built your build specifically to parry, which is fine, but the fact of the matter is that not everyone is trying to bet on the low chances of pulling off a parry against a knowledgeable opponent, as for a noob crusher I'm sure it works wonders. IGN build followers and about 99% of Elden Ring PvPers will probably get easily parried by you since most spam AoW and L1 but as with every competitive game ever the only people that matter are the top 1%, or even the top 0.1% in the case of Elden Ring.
      If the strat doesn't work at the highest elo of competitive gameplay then it needs to be improved. Anyone can just stomp noobs and say they're a great PvPer.

  • @HiImHavoc
    @HiImHavoc 2 роки тому +13

    why teabag, u lost your cool, in what was a really close fight, regardless of being vs caster spam

    • @arturobelano6243
      @arturobelano6243 2 роки тому

      Banter

    • @Lazyboxcat
      @Lazyboxcat 2 роки тому +9

      Its an ironic t bag
      Man knew it was pretty much luck at the end there

    • @TacoLord510
      @TacoLord510 2 роки тому +37

      He teabagged Paintedphantoms, one of the best ds3 players. Jeenine was just messing around. They are homies.

    • @Eqstdjdjjjd
      @Eqstdjdjjjd 2 роки тому +5

      veterans armor and chain casting spells, not very respectable in my opinion

  • @richiepipes8960
    @richiepipes8960 2 роки тому +1

    This dude was a god at ds3, hes pretty average at ER, steelovsky is more skilled, and a streamer called mook on twitch

  • @Kenobi6398
    @Kenobi6398 2 роки тому

    Im getting kinda sick of duel etiquette

  • @highbury1084
    @highbury1084 2 роки тому +3

    Crouch poke is not a setup buddy. It's an auto win.

  • @MrCleverOnion
    @MrCleverOnion 7 місяців тому +1

    Why does he disrespect his own viewers?

  • @khord8236
    @khord8236 2 роки тому +1

    as a tears of denial player I j popped it because I didn't wanna get insta jumped in pontiff

  • @VinheimScholar
    @VinheimScholar 2 роки тому

    Toxic?..

  • @NamNguyen-lr6sk
    @NamNguyen-lr6sk 2 роки тому +1

    So arrogant lol

  • @eleru777
    @eleru777 2 роки тому

    Its about the build huh? My build is the same as every DS game. OP mage. But i try not to spam same spells. Unless they i see that regen bs. Then im using ash of war invis and im going for a one or three hit kill.

  • @icecoldbrew92
    @icecoldbrew92 2 роки тому

    Probably doesn't help you brodcast your strategy on UA-cam so viewers can duel and use it against you

    • @hookoffthejab1
      @hookoffthejab1 2 роки тому

      I don't think he cares

    • @icecoldbrew92
      @icecoldbrew92 2 роки тому

      @@hookoffthejab1 I mean ya obviously my point is just they have that advantage

  • @chris3829
    @chris3829 2 роки тому

    Dude is anyone on PC ?? I have a character at 125 specifically for pvp and I can't find any duels signs on PC not can I get invasion. ! Is there that many people that don't play on PC at this level ?????!

    • @blackswordsmanyuudai2361
      @blackswordsmanyuudai2361 2 роки тому

      i can find duels consistently on pc as long as im looking at the main academy gate. as for invasions, it's pretty dead for meta level unless you're willing to fight gankers at first step

  • @r0n264
    @r0n264 2 роки тому

    g 👍