Blaidd, Seluvis, Iji EXPLAINED | Elden Ring Lore

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  • @miss_chalice
    @miss_chalice  Рік тому +1703

    I didn't add any background music this time. Do you prefer it this way? I also recorded mostly my own game footage too! Was really fun to do a new playthrough. Hope you enjoy guys :)

    • @remyromero2285
      @remyromero2285 Рік тому +136

      I like the background music with your smooth voice over it honestly it’s incredibly calming.

    • @Ithurtssobad
      @Ithurtssobad Рік тому +60

      Background music can add a lot and I think it's worth the extra effort. I didn't even notice the lack of music until you mentioned it! I must've been too immersed in your story telling.

    • @Embxr
      @Embxr Рік тому +23

      I personally like the background music but am thankful for the content regardless. Thank you lore mommy for all you do!

    • @jaxsongawesome2947
      @jaxsongawesome2947 Рік тому +16

      honestly I love both equally. I can't even pick which 😭

    • @jonesgurjones
      @jonesgurjones Рік тому +20

      I don't care about music, but the fact that you recorded your own playthrough is amazing. Shows how much work u put in these videos. Try making a face like the characters u are gonna talk about lol

  • @Mr_Wholegrain
    @Mr_Wholegrain 5 місяців тому +261

    "Tell Iji and Blaidd I love them."
    "What about Seluvis?"
    "Did I stutter?"

    • @Hypersaiyanike
      @Hypersaiyanike 4 місяці тому +16

      To be fair, I believe by that point she's already killed him herself. At the very least, he dies after you give her the blade from Nokron.

    • @Morebluethanblueeverycouldbe
      @Morebluethanblueeverycouldbe 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Hypersaiyanike thats why you do rannis quest to kill him

    • @anonakkor9503
      @anonakkor9503 2 місяці тому

      lmaoooo hahaha

  • @ButteLicher
    @ButteLicher 6 місяців тому +143

    blaidd being so chill about iji locking him up always cracks me up.

  • @kimbyd24
    @kimbyd24 Рік тому +1785

    One thing is that when you first descend towards Nokron after killing Radahn, if you've done Blaidd's quest up to that point there will be a note from him saying that he'll catch up later because he has to kill a traitor first. This implies to me that he's the one that kills Seluvis.

    • @kekmitkeks9328
      @kekmitkeks9328 Рік тому +189

      I think he kills the bloodhound knight, as he is referred to as a traitor aswell
      (I was wrong the timing works out way better for killing Seluvis)

    • @kimbyd24
      @kimbyd24 Рік тому +152

      @@kekmitkeks9328 That happens earlier

    • @CsStrez
      @CsStrez Рік тому +112

      @@kekmitkeks9328 he leaves that even if you killed Darriwil already at the start of the game or whenever

    • @Akainuisthegoat
      @Akainuisthegoat Рік тому +28

      Well if you finish his quest he has you betray ranni so she probably sent him to do it. Why she would even let a snake like him work for her still makes no sense, since he’s just a creep who turns people into puppets.

    • @holyspear26
      @holyspear26 Рік тому +114

      @@Akainuisthegoat because she is a puppet and may need an expert at puppetry to exist

  • @Homebody33
    @Homebody33 Рік тому +629

    Iji’s mirrorhelm also has the highest holy damage negation of all headwear in the whole game

    • @Ghostly3011
      @Ghostly3011 Рік тому +10

      Really? I always thought it was the Crucible tree helm.

    • @wastoodistracted866
      @wastoodistracted866 11 місяців тому +114

      Makes sense since it’s a literal tinfoil hat for the greater will

    • @lucasezequielpereiracaitan9983
      @lucasezequielpereiracaitan9983 10 місяців тому +6

      Yeah! I used it against radagon and Elden beast in my first playthrough

    • @athelise
      @athelise 8 місяців тому +2

      Dang! I was way too late for my comment lol

    • @athelise
      @athelise 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Ghostly3011 I used the crucible knight set and really wanted Iji's helm, but together with the godslayer greatsword it was too heavy even at 40 endurance, so I used Tanith's mask instead, which had pretty okay holy damage negation too

  • @str_brst8979
    @str_brst8979 Рік тому +127

    0:03 ....walk in to a bar

    • @sidkompella8692
      @sidkompella8692 2 місяці тому +2

      can you finish this joke? i kinda wanna hear how it goes.

  • @clothocto9456
    @clothocto9456 Рік тому +4497

    This girl and Vaati need to do audiobooks honestly, peaceful af

    • @waldirnacarath
      @waldirnacarath Рік тому +116

      id buy that for a dollar

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Рік тому +656

      I appreciate your comment! No promises yet but who knows :)

    • @DozleZabi
      @DozleZabi Рік тому

      Vaati is a hack fraud

    • @sonnykai
      @sonnykai Рік тому +127

      @@miss_chalice I second that. I personally would pay for a lore based elden ring audio book voiced by you

    • @commanderty94
      @commanderty94 Рік тому +8

      Third that

  • @falloutghoul1
    @falloutghoul1 Рік тому +571

    I always thought that Blaidd standing outside Ranni's tower, but going inside it, meant that his curse and his willpower to remain loyal to her twisted into a rabid defense of Ranni, at the cost of hostility towards everyone else.

    • @Fullmetalnyuu0
      @Fullmetalnyuu0 Рік тому +39

      That's what I believe as well.

    • @thecommentguy9380
      @thecommentguy9380 Рік тому +55

      His mind was still his own the moment we met him, but only seconds before the curse activated and turned him into a Baleful Shadow. His mind was gone

    • @travisf2240
      @travisf2240 Рік тому +5

      I agree finally at the end he was lost to what the order created him to be and that spiraled him into madness.

    • @mackxzs
      @mackxzs Рік тому +9

      Not really, he has a failsafe in his head. Should Ranni betray the Two Fingers, Blaidd's failsafe is activated and he goes to kill Ranni and anyone who is helping her.

    • @grigoregruesome3606
      @grigoregruesome3606 11 місяців тому +18

      @@mackxzsthat’s what’s said about him but his own words say otherwise and after you kill him Iji confirms he made a mistake by trapping him.

  • @sebakisniesebakisnie6109
    @sebakisniesebakisnie6109 Рік тому +292

    I think that since Seluvis and Pidia share a voice actor, maybe the puppeteer can only provide their own voice for the puppet. That could explain why Therolina doesn't speak, as it would give that away!

    • @landkart7233
      @landkart7233 Рік тому +33

      wait if that is true then it all make sense

  • @meshman4236
    @meshman4236 Рік тому +85

    I like how this video is all calm and polite......then we get to selivus, and she instantly calls him a dick

    • @MrGoesBoom
      @MrGoesBoom 3 місяці тому

      Well she's not wrong

  • @frogdeity
    @frogdeity Рік тому +553

    The whole Gideon vs Selivus thing makes me wonder assuming Pidia does control Selivus. Considering Gideon slaughters an entire Albanauric village in order to further his goals. Perhaps The Nepheli potion was revenge on Pidia's part. A kind of back and forth, eye for an eye type situation.

    • @XxjazzperxX
      @XxjazzperxX Рік тому +61

      I don't think that Geidion killed the village to get back at Pidia. I think he is more of a practical man and did it purely to get the medallion. But I agree it sounds very likely that Pidia would seek vengence against Gidion for what he has done to the albanaurics.

    • @frogdeity
      @frogdeity Рік тому +101

      @@XxjazzperxX Yeah that's what I meant by furthering his goals. Gideon was seeking out the medallion and slaughtered a village of innocent Albanaurics to find it. Pidia of course took offense to that. So Pidia tries to hurt who he thinks Gideon cares about. Too bad Gideon only cares about himself.

    • @XxjazzperxX
      @XxjazzperxX Рік тому +1

      @@frogdeity I see makes sense. I read "A kind of back and forth, eye for an eye type situation" to mean that Gideon wanted to get back at Pidia, but that is probably because English is not my first language.

    • @korysoftout219
      @korysoftout219 Рік тому +17

      @@frogdeity I'm not saying this theory is true or not, but I've seen a lot of people come to the conclusion that it was Ensha who attacked the village. Gideon just instructed Ensha to search for the medallion halves, while Ensha attempted to obtain them by any means necessary. That's also why Ensha attacks you after you obtain the first half, and why Gideon apologizes for Ensha "getting ahead of himself". He never actually instructed Ensha to attack you; he did that on his own to obtain the medallion half. Gideon was certainly cold and accepting of using force if it suited his purpose, but he wasn't outright malicious and clearly preferred to use unethical means as a last resort. Though again, that's just what I've seen a lot of people claim.

    • @blackhat4206
      @blackhat4206 Рік тому +14

      @@korysoftout219 I got the opposite impression during my first playthrough. I thought Gideon was just using the deceased Ensha acting on his own to cover the fact that he masterminded all of it as the “All-Knowing.” How could he not have known what actions Ensha would take? He tries to kill you himself by the end once he’s finished using you to hunt down the missing demigods (if you didn’t skip the nonessentials), after all.

  • @NeRoMaximoff
    @NeRoMaximoff Рік тому +74

    I could listen to her explain all the dark souls, Bloodborne and sekiro lore. Her voice is so soothing.

    • @jage1559
      @jage1559 9 місяців тому +4

      I personally dislike the half-whisper way she speaks. All of the "th" and "s" sounds are very exaggerated and her voice sounds very breathy. It's less clear than a full speaking voice. It's the only thing keeping me from bingeing her entire channel.

  • @heyimanameheyimalastname
    @heyimanameheyimalastname Рік тому +178

    Another thing to note about Seluvis' bell bearing, is that not only does it look like a faded glintstone bearing, but it seems to have the same coloring as the puppet icons

    • @wkgates
      @wkgates 9 місяців тому +1

      The thing that strikes me is that it has the same color pallette as Carian sorceries.

  • @thecommentguy9380
    @thecommentguy9380 Рік тому +308

    Blaidd had a tragic end. He loved Ranni but due to her defiance to the Golden Order, the curse was activated and turned him against us. He did not understand what Iji meant by him turning traitor but it was clear that his final thought before turning into a Baleful Shadow was that of Ranni. I did not want to kill him, but it's better that he died as Blaidd than live as a Baleful Shadow

    • @marbzirc376
      @marbzirc376 Рік тому +7

      I like this.

    • @KkachiKashaKarma
      @KkachiKashaKarma Рік тому +23

      He wasn't the baleful shadow! The baleful shadow was an assassin that was dressed up as Blaidd and used his attack + some blackflame. Read the wolf mask item description behind Seluvis tower!

    • @welshlout3400
      @welshlout3400 Рік тому +36

      @@KkachiKashaKarma Yes, you are correct he wasn't that particular NPC, but the OP is also correct that it was Blaidd's stated fate to eventually turn into a Baleful Shadow just like it.

    • @Doomsblues
      @Doomsblues 10 місяців тому

      @@KkachiKashaKarma so the mask isnt on the one you claim is wearing it lol. That shit was a plan that had failed, it wasnt what happened to Blaidd. We kill Blaidd.

    • @Doomsblues
      @Doomsblues 10 місяців тому +2

      @@welshlout3400 no youre both wrong.

  • @solaire7046
    @solaire7046 Рік тому +16

    On a second playthrough and finally able to understand this questline in so much more detail thanks to this channel. Can really tell how passionate you are about the lore, through the quality of your analysis here and mentioning all the theories. Such a great video, instant Subcribe.

  • @xiledturtle766
    @xiledturtle766 Рік тому +680

    I thought seluvis drank his own potion to avoid a horrible death. Great work. Loved it keep up the great work!

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Рік тому +364

      Oh!! I didn't think of that! That makes a lot of sense why there isn't much evidence around him. Would be fitting for him to take a 'coward's way out.' Thank you for watching and your great comment!

    • @noah9942.
      @noah9942. Рік тому +45

      selvius himself is already a puppet when we meet him. He's a decoy.

    • @OuterRimPride
      @OuterRimPride Рік тому +31

      I figure Ranni made him do it as revenge for his attempt to trick her

    • @bogdang8759
      @bogdang8759 Рік тому +46

      @@noah9942. question is, whose puppet? a lot of people believe the true puppet master is Pidia, and that's a cool take, but what if it's Ranni? and she uses Seluvis to test your loyalty?

    • @giominus7402
      @giominus7402 Рік тому +30

      @@bogdang8759 There is an event in the game I stumbled upon when you are going to Pida he is begging for the puppets not to kill him cause he is their master or some such.

  • @puzzleheaded6195
    @puzzleheaded6195 Рік тому +320

    22:14 I always wondered why Blaidd attacked us here. There nothing we did to him personally and he turns feral the moment whe approach him. At first I thought he was just losing control but then it occurred that we’ve had Ranni in our pocket this whole time as her miniature self. She even talks to us again in that form at the nearby tower. Sneaky little Chibi..

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Рік тому +133

      Oooh that's really interesting! It could be! I also think possibly Blaidd is disappointed in himself that he didn't become Ranni's champion, but we did. There are a couple of NPC dialogue lines that indicate that someone else was a contender for this position before us, possibly Blaidd.
      So as Blaidd is having a crisis over his loyalty and we enter, I think the timing was poor. Just some of my thoughts :)

    • @dmitriyn7695
      @dmitriyn7695 Рік тому

      Он сошёл с ума, как и должно было быть. В своём сумасшествии он нападает на всех.
      На всех, кроме "хозяйки", об чём свидетельствует его речь перед боем. В этом и была ошибка кузнеца-гиганта - Блайд сошёл с ума, но не стал предателем.

    • @TheRockK95
      @TheRockK95 Рік тому +192

      Iji says it in his dialogue.
      Blaidd is a creation of the two fingers. Given to ranni, if she was to go down a different path rather than the two fingers intended. Blaidd will go mad and kill her.
      Does anyone even listen to the npcs?

    • @DragonQuit226
      @DragonQuit226 Рік тому +34

      @@TheRockK95 no.... No they don't

    • @pacosrevenge1
      @pacosrevenge1 Рік тому +6

      @@TheRockK95 💯

  • @fredbyoutubing
    @fredbyoutubing Рік тому +408

    Selvius being Pidia's poppet makes so much sense! In person, it's clear that he despise you but is being polite. But as a puppet, he can just throw shades at you and act all mighty. It must be cathartic for him.

    • @mig0150
      @mig0150 Рік тому +63

      I also thought it was weird how Pidia's location has a combat blocking barrier in it, which very few locations seem to have. Maybe because killing him would also kill Seluvis and mess up the whole Ranni quest line?

    • @fredbyoutubing
      @fredbyoutubing Рік тому +23

      @@mig0150Right. And he's also the one puppetteering most of the enemies in the area. What I also found out playing it recently is that Iji says there is a "snail" conjuring powerful beings in the area in an attempt to dissuade you from going there. I didn't find a snail but the thing is, these snails exist too as we later find out. I'm wondering if there's any truth to it or a connection.

    • @brandonmcintosh4598
      @brandonmcintosh4598 Рік тому +26

      @@fredbyoutubing snare dude. Snare

    • @pirateskeleton7828
      @pirateskeleton7828 Рік тому +46

      Pidia was definitely controlling Seluvis. If you give Nepheli the puppet potion, you get the Nepheli puppet off of Pidia's body, not Seluvis.

    • @Ecliptor.
      @Ecliptor. Рік тому +9

      Yeah it makes a lot of sense, Pidia also seems to know you when you meet him for the first time as well. Although, I think she mentioned this in the video. I may have forgotten lol.

  • @mariolebowski4878
    @mariolebowski4878 Рік тому +79

    Also worth noting that near the entrance to nokron where the star fell there is a message by Blaidd saying "one traitor taken care of" and after that Seluvis is dead. Blaidd could´ve been the one sent to kill him by Ranni.

  • @WhywolfSenpai
    @WhywolfSenpai Рік тому +21

    This is my first time seeing the full breakdown of the end of Blaidd's quest since I never found him at the evergoal, so that in itself made this fascinating, but the godskin noble by the tower is something I never thought to question and the theory of them potentially being who killed Iiji and the black knives actually being allies is the kind of subtle story telling I LOVE from these games if true and is 100% my headcanon for these events now!

  • @meisterwu8922
    @meisterwu8922 Рік тому +104

    I love the idea that Iji fought alongside the Black Knife Assassins. He's such a sweetheart and it's very comforting to think that he didn't have to die alone, but alongside his comrades.

    • @ShadeStormXD
      @ShadeStormXD 8 місяців тому

      comrades? you find his corpse covered in black flame where he sits at his forge
      COMRADES?

  • @robbyloux
    @robbyloux Рік тому +229

    The revelation that the Black Knife's may have been there to defend Iji and Blaidd gave me goosebumps...
    This video filled in so many questions I had about this quest, Amazing work ♥

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Рік тому +59

      Thank you! It personally blew my mind to starting considering it from that angle. Love how theories can completely overturn a consistent line of thinking. Really happy you appreciated that, thank you so much

    • @carljohan9265
      @carljohan9265 Рік тому +5

      @@miss_chalice This is one of those things that demonstrates just how deep the elden ring rabbit hole truly goes. Whenever you think you got it figured out, there's almost always more to the story.
      Btw, don't take this the wrong way, but you have a really sexy voice. It's got that air of feminine mystique to it that reminds me of Ranni, and also Emma from Sekiro (specifically Emma's japanese voice).

    • @pantherom9970
      @pantherom9970 Рік тому +15

      ​@@carljohan9265💀

    • @ace3589
      @ace3589 Рік тому +6

      @@pantherom9970shooters shoot 💀

    • @meshman4236
      @meshman4236 Рік тому +1

      I was thinking that iji and blaidd killed them, but then blaidd was driven mad, so the greater will only had to send godskins to kill iji, and that's why he was the only one on fire, but black knives defending them makes more sense

  • @bartmongiello
    @bartmongiello Рік тому +53

    There’s also the fact that if Pidia is controlling Seluvis then it actually makes sense that Seluvis would be dead/inactive before Pidia dies. If you’re concentrating on keeping a puppet animated and all of a sudden you’re puppet bodies that never move in their own are now trying to kill you, then it stands to reason that you’ll break your concentration. Which would leave Seluvis immobile before Pidia is fully dead.

    • @athelise
      @athelise 8 місяців тому +2

      I think it's also that most all of the puppets are made up of living bodies with all of their will taken away, and can be killed, regardless of whether or not the puppeteer lets go of them, so the idea that Seluvis gets assassinated before Pidia's control is severed still works

  • @YESNYC_
    @YESNYC_ Рік тому +62

    hey, at 23:48 there's no audio just thought i'd let you know. Awesome video btw really love the detail and theories behind such a "beloved" character like Ranni. That she could have this sort of advantageous personality could definitely be overlooked. This is truly a heartbreaking story. I'm definitely subbing for more content!

    • @l337fox
      @l337fox Рік тому +3

      Came to post this as well

    • @WetBoy
      @WetBoy Рік тому

      Keep your criticisms to yourself, peon

  • @boi6ix445
    @boi6ix445 Рік тому +7

    You actually sound like an Elden ring VA. Just wanted to say I'm really enjoying the ER video series, adding so much context to what I found and discovered during my play throughs, like piecing together a puzzle. (ps. I like the BG music, just needs to be subtle as not to steal focus from how nice your voice is.) Keep it up!

  • @Taireyn
    @Taireyn Рік тому +217

    You and Vaati are probably my favorite lore channels, literally perfect story telling voices

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Рік тому +31

      Thank you so much, that's a great honour to me :)

    • @haisarusi7758
      @haisarusi7758 Рік тому

      simp

    • @fernandofaria2872
      @fernandofaria2872 Рік тому +1

      @@miss_chalice An honour to Vaati*

    • @ilikegamesye
      @ilikegamesye Рік тому

      ​@@fernandofaria2872 chill nigga don't act that down bad lol she's dope af but Vaati is on another level

    • @Neo_Vandole
      @Neo_Vandole 2 місяці тому

      Vaati makes sloppy errors and thinks he can get away with it by his coma inducing voice... and by deleting comments. For example we still don't know why Sulyvahns statue(with the patroling angel knight), holding the profaned Greatsword is in Lothric, when the Pontiff and Lothric are at war. Vaati completly ignores this. Since it's in opposition to his "war" theory.

  • @weeferooni
    @weeferooni Рік тому +82

    32:22 dont know if anyone else has mentioned this yet but puppets can definitely talk. sellen is a puppet and she talks the entire time! i do like the theory that pidia controls seluvis though. perhaps he uses some type of glintstone like sellens to transfer his consciousness to the puppet he chooses to command. also, what a great video! i love this trio (blaidd iji and ranni i mean. not seluvis lol.) the love they share brings a tear to my eye.

    • @weeferooni
      @weeferooni Рік тому +18

      also now that i think about it. it would really make a lot of sense for pidia to want to destroy gideon’s life using seluvis as a proxy because of all the heinous things gideon has done to albinaurics.

    • @Aldoz
      @Aldoz Рік тому +11

      She didn't say that puppets can't talk, but that their voice can't be controlled. Sellen isn't a puppet, once you revive her she is in controll of her own actions, even if she might be just a doll replica of herself.

    • @Leotheleprachaun
      @Leotheleprachaun Рік тому +5

      Somebody's never done Sellen's quest

    • @weeferooni
      @weeferooni Рік тому +2

      @@Aldoz that is a fair point you make about sellen having a unique situation as a doll with a soul compared to the rest of the “puppets” attached to seluvis. shes basically just a doll body with her own spirit inside much like ranni when we meet her who, like sellen, is still in control of her own actions. i guess puppets are an entirely different type of entity i believe you are correct there.

    • @BerosCerberus
      @BerosCerberus Рік тому +2

      ​@@weeferooni Her Soul is only attached to a puppet body after you get her Primal Glintstone and put it in the body in Seluvis dungeon. The body you can talk to in Limgrave cant be a puppet bc you cant find a body after you take her stone and the "real" Sellen is in a dongeon on the Weeping Peninsula. If this would be a puppet we could bring her soul to this body in Limgrave.

  • @firepowerx-venezuelangame3890
    @firepowerx-venezuelangame3890 Рік тому +25

    A relaxing lore vid, just what u need as I do a hard activity in a game

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Рік тому +15

      Glad to hear I could help you chill! wishing you luck with whatever task you are trying to battle!

  • @spookytimejunction
    @spookytimejunction 6 місяців тому +9

    something about seluvis' ending i haven't seen many point is, if you've done blaidd's quest, he leaves you a note telling you he'll catch up as he needs to kill a traitor.
    Not only does this lead to the assumption he is the one to kill seluvis, look at the way his body is sitting upon death. It mirrors the way the puppets in his basement sit.
    It seems to inact karma upon seluvis, presumably blaidd forced him to drink his own potion.

  • @hiddenshadow2105
    @hiddenshadow2105 Рік тому +1

    to 32:54 Puppets can speak with 'soul-inserts' like Sellen's stone. Sellen speaks just fine after her stone was transferred to a new body; Seluvis, by this logic, would speak just fine with his unique ball-bearing being probably his stone in some way.

  • @tyler_b4786
    @tyler_b4786 Рік тому +9

    One video in and I am hooked. Your storytelling pace is very relaxing and easy to follow. It is very clear how much thought and care you put into your work, having segments for each bit of lore, exploring theories. The time you put into testing things with your own gameplay was a nice touch, I didn't expect to be brought along on a journey to discover the possible origin of the fire on Iji. I saw your comment about background music, and I personally really liked the way you did audio in this video, it gave the video a more personal feel. Like having a friend talk to you about something they are interested in. You have a wonderful voice, very soothing and nice on the ears. Thanks for the awesome video, I look forward to future uploads!

  • @christophererb9183
    @christophererb9183 Рік тому +6

    This is exactly the kind of Elden Ring lore I was hoping to find. Awesome job with research, clear explanations of characters/motives/proof, and great narration! Instant subscribe!

  • @LiquidAwesomePersonified
    @LiquidAwesomePersonified Рік тому +22

    It could be that Seluvis the puppet became inactive as Piddia was being attacked by the other puppets around him maybe breaking his concentration or whatever - I know in game the puppets work a lot like spirit ashes, but Seluvis/Piddia could be using a similar kind of magic to Sellen's mental body-swapping typing of puppetry that we see her using while still imprisoned beneath the witchs dungeon or whatever it was called.
    Because if i remember right, Sellen also became "inactive" once Jarra? Jarreth? the guy from the Radahn "festival" kills her body and you have to find her a new one.

  • @warhorseman8680
    @warhorseman8680 5 місяців тому +2

    Blaidd is hand down the best NPC and character on the game. It gives the same Solaire vibes, as he stood loyal to the end. He will always be remembered.

  • @Zero-tk1hb
    @Zero-tk1hb Рік тому +3

    I really love your channel. The way you present the theories is really good. Your voice is really soothing and calm, i can easily imagine you telling stories around the campfire or close to a three and everyone would close their eyes to listen to you.

  • @SaintHound74
    @SaintHound74 Рік тому +8

    It's been a joy seeing new Lore-weavers such as yourself come to life to explore this game. The thoughtfulness and care of your cosplay is a reflection of the thoughtfulness you put into your videos. Once Elden Ring has run its course, I hope you find more games to do this kind of work. Who knows what the DLC will bring though? People are still talking about Bloodborne and Sekiro! Again, well done.

  • @cappucinothings
    @cappucinothings Рік тому +6

    when i saw the video length i SCREAMEDD yay i love ur longer vids!!

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Рік тому +2

      Yay!! Glad to hear you like the longer videos!!!

  • @Drocksas
    @Drocksas Рік тому +12

    I never thought about it until you discussed the ties between Gideon and Seluvis, but it's very interesting that both have such deep needs for control, and that the difference in how they execute it is what led to them being at odds. Where Seluvis uses magic to turn people into dolls he can puppeteer, Gideon prefers charismatic manipulation for his own ends, as evidenced both in the horrors he signs off on in the Albinauric village AND in how he drip-feeds special goodies if we give him information on the extra demigods in the late game. It seems they both, ironically, desperately seek personal gain, but have such different ways of going about it that they hate each other. I'd even be willing to bet that in the case of Dolores, Gideon probably had her in his employ as he did Ensha and Nepheli. And Seluvis wanted her enough to slight Gideon by taking her in his own, sadistic way.
    Also, at 4:28 "Last, but most definitely least" is the PERFECT phrase to describe Seluvis! Thank you for that wonderful line!

  • @DudeWerewolf
    @DudeWerewolf 9 місяців тому +1

    So peaceful, but well paced and very eloquently laid out. Awesome video!!

  • @fuggleville1481
    @fuggleville1481 10 місяців тому +1

    I love Elden Ring but am so busy that a lot of the times I speed through some of the dialogue. Your channel videos really make me appreciate the game even further. Thank you.

  • @bartman64
    @bartman64 9 місяців тому +4

    What if Seluvis is still alive? You didn’t mention the interactions with Sellen, that show Sellen is a puppet as well, with her real body far away. What if Seluvis was puppeting his own body like Sellen, and noped out back to his real body at the first sign of danger

  • @Ithurtssobad
    @Ithurtssobad Рік тому +10

    The Audio bugs out around 23:48
    Not sure if that's just me! I enjoyed this video, always feels like I'm learning more than I did when I initially played through the game. Thanks for extra insight!

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Рік тому +7

      Oh no! You're right, well spotted. Not sure what happened on my end, there is always something ahAha. Gonna start awarding a medal for Spot the Chalice Audio Error.
      Thank you for your lovely feedback, I really enjoy knowing that I can share some little bits that you weren't aware of! It's a very rewarding process. Thankful for your comment :)

  • @BlueAsterismSolstice
    @BlueAsterismSolstice Рік тому +13

    I actually had a crazier theory to the fall of Iji. I figured the Raging Wolf of the Roundtable did it. Before we wrap up Leyndell, we received no mention of Ranni and her Great Rune whereabouts. A suspicion I had was that Gideon didn't have the full story by that time while he studied his time by for the Two Fingers instead of burning the tree. Any Tarnished would meanwhile be his eyes and ears, looking for information. Such would be Vargram as well as the real value of Dolores as opposed to Seluvis's method to make people useful. Gideon is a Fundamentalist, a scholar by all means except by name. In other words, the two were opposites, in a world contrasted full of opposites. Instead of puppets, Gideon used pawns under the guise of same interests. Vargram was one of the earliest Round Table members and would use an armor inspired after the Baleful Shadows meant to grant an Empyrean death, and would wield the Godslayer Greatsword of black flames to match, once belonged to the Gloam Eyed Queen.

  • @mellowstrangler
    @mellowstrangler Рік тому +3

    Very well structured video. Good job! Also I found it very refreshing to have a critical take on the content and the lore of the game when presenting it to the viewers. Bonus points for soothing voice. This video and the goldmask lore video are my current favorites from you. I hope you keep it up!

  • @iHaveTheDocuments
    @iHaveTheDocuments Рік тому +20

    Iji literally wears a tin foil helmet so no one can read this thoughts. The first ever

  • @dhzinck
    @dhzinck Рік тому +20

    This is a great video. Some additional things to note. The reason Ranni doesn't mention Seluvis when she tells you to "tell Blaidd and Iji that she loves" them is because Seluvis is already dead. Another thing to note is that Blaidd marks your map where the metor hits and when you get there he leaves a note saying he has something he needs to take care of and that there is a trade amongst the group. When you finish the area without Blaidd, Seluvis is dead. It is implied that Ranni was on to Seluvis trying to create that potion and Bliadd is sent to take care of it. I also don't feel that the black knife assassins are there to help or guard them. Ranni admits directly to us that she orchestrated the Night of the Black Knives to us during her questline more than once. I feel like they are there trying to get back the pieces you are getting for her quest or they are seeking revenge. If you do the Black Knife Catacombs and talk to Rogier he has a lot to say about this and wants you to infiltrate Ranni's group. You have to do this before going to the manor but it is pretty interesting.
    Alright, one last nerd out of "what if" that I have been wondering. In Seluvis puppets area you see everyone and they all makes sense but 1 and that is the Omin guy by the wall. My theory is that he was created for Gideon and used to kill that village where you find Nepheli. The connection between that area, Gideon knowing Seluvis and his "tricks", who Nepheli is and all of that just seems odd. To me it feels like he was hired by Gideon and that is where Seluvis met Nepheli. The connection between all of these characters is just wild.

    • @alexanderbeardsley5465
      @alexanderbeardsley5465 Рік тому +2

      there are a few flaws with the Blaidd killing seluvis theory. 1: when you ENTER Nokron city via the crater the first time Blaidd is already in the evergaol. meaning if you never go to the gaol to release him he is stuck in there until he breaks free AFTER you acquire the dark moon greatsword at the very end of ranni's questline which means there is a horrible time gap between his apparent break out and seluvis' death. 2: seluvis only dies AFTER you give ranni the fingerslaying blade. not anytime before it. you can hold the fingerslaying blade basically indefinitely and as long as you don't give it to ranni then seluvis lives. and 3: it's most likely ranni who murders seluvis. if you actually try to smack ranni a few times she'll warn you to stop. then after a bit she gets fed up and vaporizes you on the spot then vanishes after you respawn. so she clearly has the magic power to spare its just not shown since her target is a two fingers. but against a tarnished? or seluvis/pidia? she is still a demigod after all.

    • @Snowblood27
      @Snowblood27 Рік тому

      keep yourself safe

    • @ShadeStormXD
      @ShadeStormXD 8 місяців тому +2

      when you first confront her about it she admits to the whole shebang but it sounds so disingenious. the delivery is all wrong compared to the rest of her dialogue.
      when rannis in her doll form, a form she states makes her loose of lip, she admits to conspiracy and the creation of black knives but makes no mention of orchestrating the NoBK.
      in these moments of honest, solemn truth why would she make no mention of what would be her darkest deed.
      its far more likely that ranni is simply taking the blame for the orchestration of the NoBK, when in reality she was a just member of a the larger conspiracy.
      if she had orchestrated it, why disrupt the carvings of the cursemark into godwyn? why align herself with a godskin noble at the divine tower if she had the black knife assassins in her pocket to carve the cursemark? why abandon the BKAs after disrupting the cursemark carving, forcing them to flee the capital and kill various other demigods? why imprison the leader of the black knives?
      for someone as intelligent, careful and diligent as ranni, it doesnt make sense that the NoBKs as it happened was her plan,
      shit just doesnt add up

  • @Djabsbs
    @Djabsbs Рік тому +26

    She makes the best lore videos I always find them relaxing and interesting

  • @underhill1158
    @underhill1158 Рік тому +12

    I love the casual Ranni look

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Рік тому +3

      thank you! I'm glad you got what I was going for with my outfit and makeup :)

  • @Some_Guy_87
    @Some_Guy_87 4 місяці тому +1

    And here I thought I knew everything about that story - I never even met Pidia! With so many connections to Seluvis that theory makes total sense to me. It's a shame the quests are so hard to follow and discover in this game, would be amazing if everyone experienced it in their playthrough. Very cool summary of this substory!

  • @YumanoidPontifex
    @YumanoidPontifex 5 місяців тому +2

    makes sense ranni doesn't love seluvis. the other two are loyal allies, but she is only teaming up with seluvis out of necessity. btw. that pidia connection... this lore never ceases to surprise with new and new hidden depths. especially ranni's questline, probably my favorite quest line in any game by now.

  • @MonkeyPantsFace
    @MonkeyPantsFace Рік тому +7

    Something that wasn't covered in this video was the connection between Jerren and Iji - they both share a lot of dialogue referencing each other under certain conditions.
    Would love for another video or even Q and A talking more about this. They are such interesting/enigmatic characters 😊

  • @aranthur
    @aranthur Рік тому +11

    I like the idea of Seluvis not being a puppet at first, but being turned into one as an ironic punishment. I can definitely see puppetry as a necessary evil that Ranni doesn't like but still needed these two puppet masters to create her own doll body and help protect her castle
    Then as soon as she didn't need them anymore, she potioned Seluvis and took control of Pidia's puppets herself to give them their revenge

  • @stormichigura
    @stormichigura 5 місяців тому +3

    dolly botherer has got to be the most roundabout but somehow straightforward way of calling someone a sex offender that ive ever heard

  • @TheJoker-bz2uz
    @TheJoker-bz2uz 10 місяців тому +1

    Your voice is extremely calming and I really enjoy the way you go about telling the story and explaining your point of view. Well done

  • @probablyfacetious2895
    @probablyfacetious2895 5 місяців тому +2

    The wolf mask, notably, is found hidden near Seluvis' Rise. I always took that as an indication that Seluvis had been part of that plot.

  • @Tony-pm5xo
    @Tony-pm5xo 4 місяці тому +3

    If Seluvis is a puppet of Pidia, that'll mean Ranni is the only other person who can control puppets/dolls. And Pidia just happened to got his ass kicked after Ranni left her tower and was transfering to small Ranni...
    Maybe Pidia needs a lesson in password security.

  • @garrulousgoldmask
    @garrulousgoldmask Рік тому +21

    Another great video! I had no idea Blaidd had such a brutal and feral bite attack when he's at the end. That really shows how he's losing control.
    Fun fact: You can actually troll Seluvis when he first mentions his scheme to fool Ranni! Just tell him you're not interested twice in a row and you get unique exasperate dialogue from him 😅
    Second fun fact: In the 1.0 version of the game, there isn't a Godskin Noble at Ranni's Divine Tower nor is Iji covered in Black Flame. So those changes were deliberate and made very, very late in development
    Keep up the amazing work!

  • @Roadvoice
    @Roadvoice Рік тому +3

    Fighting Blaidd was one of the mos painful thing I ever did in a videogame... I past a big chunk of the fight just defending myself in hope the he would stop. You a know a game is a masterpiece when it triggers this kind of reactions.

  • @domiy13
    @domiy13 8 місяців тому +1

    This is the best unintentional ASMR I've ever heard. So relaxing!

  • @-DeScruff
    @-DeScruff Рік тому +1

    Part of me wonders if the evergoals put their occupants in a sudo stasis. - Unaging, unchanging, but still conscious. (An almost ideal eternal punishment.)
    If so then it could be that Iji had Blaidd put in there with the intention of freeing him if and when Ranni completed her plans. If the Two fingers made the the empyrean's Shadows go mad when they betray the two fingers, what happens when there is no more Empyrean? What if there is no Greater Will or Two Fingers? - Would Blaidd walk out of the goal a completely free man?

  • @daviverle_9211
    @daviverle_9211 Рік тому +6

    At this point i don't even know if i watch her videos for the L O R E or just because it's the most calming and relaxing voice i've ever heard
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    (please tell me a bed time story thank you)

  • @AliceB0
    @AliceB0 5 місяців тому +6

    seluvis can't be pidia's puppet cause you can kill pidia without effecting seluvis. I feel like seluvis has just been fed his own tonic instead of being assassinated the normal way. I would personally find it a fitting punishment for his dolly bothering.

    • @hhjhj393
      @hhjhj393 3 місяці тому

      Ranni was poor so she could only afford the small amount of assassins we see. She took care of Seluvis personally.

  • @Gunny3393
    @Gunny3393 Рік тому +6

    I always thought Blaidd killed Selvius because of the message in Nokron that says a traitor has to be dealt with. The way the sequence of events work, I always found Selvius dead after I saw the message.
    I think this also explains why Ranni doesn't say she loves him and why there are no Black Knife Assassins around his body because he was the first one dead and he was dealt with internally by the team after they learned of his plot to bag Ranni.

    • @NeoNaito
      @NeoNaito Рік тому

      Agreed. I also think Iji kills himself because Blaidd doesn't lose himself until he returns 'home' to Ranni's side and finds himself abandoned. So, after he realizes that Blaidd literally went feral and you killed him BECAUSE of his actions, he kills himself to make amends. Like "Oh shit, I caused him to go nuts because I separated him from Ranni". His head is literally side ways like be bashed himself in the head with his hammer. As for the black flames, COULD be weapon effect from his hammer, which we as a player never get to use. Or Melina, the gloam eye queen's, work.

    • @ANIMEBEAST27
      @ANIMEBEAST27 Рік тому

      I also thought this too, but it's hard to commit to this theory because we know Blaidd uses a great sword and selvius's body has no evidence of being hit with a large weapon. You'd expect to see a large wound, him on the floor with a pool of blood, broken in pieces ect. He's just sitting there looking like he was never touched.

    • @ANIMEBEAST27
      @ANIMEBEAST27 Рік тому

      @@NeoNaito The weapon art thing makes a lot of sense but I went back there just now and Iji's hammer was never moved

  • @theguardlorenzo5898
    @theguardlorenzo5898 5 місяців тому +1

    I personally always thought it was guideon the one who killed selubis, since on my playthrough he specifically asked for the potion for nefely to be given to him. So, on my idea, he forced it down selubis throat as revenge, which is why he ends on the puppet position

  • @JLomboCrop
    @JLomboCrop 3 місяці тому +1

    Another thing that I didn't see mentioned and is quite the stretch, but the puppet spirit summons are dark blue rather than the light blue of every other summon. The same blue that Selivus' ball bearing just so happens to be.

  • @MadAtreides1
    @MadAtreides1 Рік тому +3

    I am tired of people simping for Ranni, she is a monster. She betrayed her own family, killed her own brother, started a war that ruined the entirety of the Lands Between, caused the curse of those who live in death, abandoned her own allies, affiliated herself with Seluvis and left her 'friends' to die without a single spare tought. I wish there was a way to kill her instead of either following her ending or making her flee. She had no more business being left alive than any other demigod.

  • @wilfredwayne7139
    @wilfredwayne7139 Рік тому +12

    You've got the perfect unique voice for a souls game. Could imagine you as an NPC and I mean that in the best way your voice is so tender.

    • @miss_chalice
      @miss_chalice  Рік тому +4

      Thank you, that is the highest of compliments. Maybe one day you will hear my voice in a game, that's just a dream for now :)

    • @cesspool1676
      @cesspool1676 Рік тому +4

      I second that. She would be a perfect voice for a souls npc.

  • @guitaristAustin
    @guitaristAustin Рік тому +1

    grate video overall, I am really enjoying your take on these characters. I think we can all agree: Seluvis is a real POS.
    I am so glad that I had Gideon give Seluvis the potion.

  • @Genasidal
    @Genasidal Рік тому +1

    Brilliant video!
    I've only just found this channel, and I'm super glad I did! Learnt some new things about Blaidd's questline, and I never considered the Black Knives were there to protect Iji and Blaidd!
    One thing I wanted to suggest however: you mentioned when going into the Pidia/Seluvis theory that an inconsistency is the sequence of events, though, I think this DOES have a logical explaination towards the theory:
    When we see Pidia, he is writhing on the ground after being beaten to a pulp. It can be inferred here, that, if a Puppet Master is being attacked, regardless of death or not, they lose direct control of their puppets.
    Consider this also, when discussing the inconsitency in Puppet Control: we technically don't control puppets the same way a Pidia - Selivus puppet control would work, because they function on an almost, primal, defensive measure, similar to Therolina is an assistant at Redmane Castle. From this, I pose the theory that there are two distinct types of Puppet Control: Direct, and Indirect.
    An Indirect puppet control is what Therolina is going through, and what we are taught by Selivus, and will have a set of puppets act out a primary directive with their strongest traits still subtly intact (think of Therolina's bow, or her heal, or even Pidia's Cuccko Soldiers fighting as a unit in Caria Manor!)
    What we see however through Pidia's puppeteering of Selivus, could be direct control. Perhaps, the individual is in complete control of the puppet, and needs full focus to do so. If that focus is broken, perhaps so is the puppeteering. This could explain the end result to Selivus!
    I'd also like to suggest that Selivus' entire personality to me makes no sense from a Conspectus perspective, given the item description of their set/the two helmet variations. It seems moreso that Selivus is Pidia's resentment coming out almost anonymously, through the voice of another. Selivus' entire inflection changes to more warm also, when he realises you do really want to help him, and though it might be a stretch, I'd say in these lines, he mirrors Pidia much more. His resentment possibly faded by that point.
    I believe Pidia is known to Ranni, and she must have had his connection to his puppets severed somehow, to give him a taste of his own medicine! Perhaps, in exchange for everything Ranni needed from his expertise in puppeteering, he gets a safe haven, free to do his puppeteering in peace.
    ONE LAST THING TO CONSIDER ON THEIR CONNECTION!: Think of the art of Puppeteering in Elden Ring, and what we learn about it. Pupeteering seems to originate from the Nox, from the Eternal Cities, and Pidia is a first generation Albinuric, of whom have an affiliation WITH the Eternal Cities, Silver Tears and by proxy - the Nox. Perhaps he came to know puppeteering through those whom initially created him, and was given as a gift to Ranni by the Nox, to serve her (since they have good relations with her). This would explain also why Royal Conspectuses randomly knows puppetry magic. By using Selivus as a vessel to teach, Pidia could have taught ALL of the Conspectuses the art of puppeteering, and the importance of Starlight Shards, (something the Carian Royal family hold in abundance,) are to the process itself!
    Sorry for the super long read to all who get through this! I had a big think through this topic, and hope it's all consise enough and makes enough sense to see where I'm coming from! Thoughts are welcome, since I'm interested in external input on this!
    And if you see this, thanks for the interesting lore video Miss Chalice; I'm gonna binge some more! Maybe I have some more apiphanies as I watch on theories!

  • @TheRealTetro
    @TheRealTetro Рік тому +6

    Very nice and relaxing video ! I really like your take that Iji prompted the Black Knives' appearance by removing his helm, it's a shame it doesn't reflect on his model, although as you said, the order in which all the events can take place could be interpreted in many ways.
    The theory I subscribe to when it comes to why the attack takes place, even though the Black Knives were supposed to have been "forged by Ranni", is that Ranni really double-crossed everybody.
    Ranni obviously had plans for bringing about an age of the stars, and she needed to rid herself of the Two Fingers' influence to achieve it. But I believe she hid that goal from the rest of the conspirators.
    The other parties who wish to see Destined Death restored (Melina, namely, who's probably associated with the Gloam-Eyed Queen's desires (if she's not the GEQ herself)), do not seem to want to abandon the Lands Between outright. Melina does not want to see life be destroyed through the Flame of Frenzy, she is attached to terrestrial life.
    From this, I posit that even though Ranni became involved with the Death faction, she hid that she was going to kill her flesh and hijack the whole plan for herself, that the Death people were not in it for bringing an age of the stars. We can infer that there was some conflict between Ranni and the Black Knives previously, from Alecto being imprisoned in the Moonlight Altar, Ranni's HQ.
    This again poses the question of why would a supposed agent of Ranni be imprisoned where she is if their goals were supposedly aligned.
    So when the Black Knives catch wind of Ranni's followers' whereabouts, they go in to try and stop her.
    There's a lot of conjecture involved here, but it still makes a lot of sense to me.
    There are tons of unspoken connections between Ranni and Melina. The biggest one being the fact that they both acknowledge and appreciate Torrent. Ranni also acquired the Spirit-calling bell from "Torrent's former master". Going down that route, Torrent's former master is either Melina herself, or her predecessor (who has to be associated with Destined Death as well). This furthers their connection and the idea that this was part of a bigger deal around Ranni forging the Black Knives.
    If I'm going even further in this theory, my take even is that Ranni traded her Great Rune when that bargain was made. And when we eventually get a DLC, finding where the Black Knives ritual took place and who exactly was involved in it is how I hope we will be able to obtain the Great Rune for ourselves.
    Phew, here it is, my "grand DLC theory", now I'm just crossing my fingers :D

  • @JakeTheArmyGuy
    @JakeTheArmyGuy Рік тому +8

    I feel that Ranni's ending is the closest thing Elden Ring has to a "Good" or "Happy" ending. Yes, she did it for her own reasons, but what she accomplished was severing the Land Between from influence of ALL outer gods. The Greater Will, Mohg's Blood Mother, the Rot Goddess, the Three Fingers, all have been cut off from the world, hence the whole "world without faith" thing. Now, people must find their own path, and don't have to be beholden to distant and uncaring gods.
    Great video, my friend! RIP Blaidd, the Goodest of Boys.

  • @Acesahn
    @Acesahn Рік тому +13

    I find it far more likely the Black Knife assassins betrayed Ranni then Ranni betrayed Iji and Blaidd. While they could be being controlled by the Two Fingers as well, they're hired killers, not the most trustworthy sort. It's very possible they had their own agenda.

  • @kurdtcoben
    @kurdtcoben 6 місяців тому +2

    "Carry on for the cause - spread light across these shores.
    Remember who I was,
    Half-wolf, forever yours."
    (from Aviator's 'Halfwolf')

  • @Necrapocalypse
    @Necrapocalypse Рік тому +9

    I never actually knew about Blaidd and Iji's deaths and imprisoning because it's so difficult for me to follow where quest NPCs are in an open world. It's almost a shame because of how much interesting stuff happens there, but that's what this video is for. Also it's nice not to have anyone die in a questline for once. Well, anyone I remotely care about.

  • @LampseekerForevermore
    @LampseekerForevermore Рік тому +8

    The shadow isn't Blaidd, it is implied with the mask you find of Blaidd that there are assassins stalking Ranni using his visage as a disguise.

    • @thecommentguy9380
      @thecommentguy9380 Рік тому

      No need for the mask. After retrieving the Finger Slayer knife, Iji will lock Blaidd in the bloodhound's prison south of Mistwood. Free him and go talk to Iji and he will explain that the Baleful Shadows are vassals of the Greater Will to serve and protect the Empyrean. But if they rebel against the Greater Will, those vassals will turn into Baleful Shadows to hunt down said Enpyrean
      Blaidd was faithful to Ranni but in the end he's still the Greater Will's sleeper agent, a kill switch to prevent rebellion

  • @virtualstring2925
    @virtualstring2925 Рік тому +9

    The last points about you visiting both Blaidd and Iji at the end essentially being the reason they indeed die is something I've never thought about. Yet I still believe that defeating Blaidd is the right thing to do. He was loyal to Ranni until the very end, even in his madness, he couldn't attack her. I find it a more proper end for Blaidd to die by our hand while he still has even the smallest semblance of sanity, be it as little as it is, so he dies as Blaidd. Not as a mad shadow controlled by the fingers.
    His story is definitely one of the most touching ones in the game.
    Btw, have you seen/covered the cut questline of Kale? It's one of the best narratives in the game, even if cut, definitely worth checking it out :)

    • @Acesahn
      @Acesahn Рік тому

      Everyone says and thinks this, but I can't help but point out that with the Greater Will being cut out of this world and Ranni being made the new Queen/God of it, I don't think it'd be out of the question to save Blaidd at that point. Perhaps any ending cutting out the Greater Will would save him even.

  • @Spahki
    @Spahki 5 місяців тому +1

    10:45 "Bale, in this context, meani-" CUUUURRRRSSSEEEE YOOOOOOOOUUUUUU BAAAAAAYLE!!

  • @nick_of_astora1137
    @nick_of_astora1137 5 місяців тому +1

    I really liked this video and you actually made some really interesting points I never thought of. One thing I'd like to add to Pidya and Selivus is the following: Selivus could very much be a puppet. I think Pidya lost concentration over Selivus while being attacked by the cuckoo soldiers. It could very well be that a spell Was cast on the soldiers to keep them in a puppet like state, but like the player, Pidya's mana probably ran out at some point and the soldiers took their chance to take revenge on him wich resulted in him giving up the control over Selivus to defend himself and failing, getting killed by his own creations

  • @coffinmyface4237
    @coffinmyface4237 11 місяців тому +5

    The thumbnail is wildly incorrect, minus Seluvis, Ijis entire character is that he never lies to you except for when he locks Blaidd away, and Blaidd is incapable of being a traitor, like he physically can't betray Ranni, as Iji says, They greater will made it so that if an empyrean goes against it, their shadow will be driven to madness, they thumbnail is very much click bait.

  • @_ariosto1519
    @_ariosto1519 Рік тому +20

    There is a message from Blaidd outside the meteor entrance, it says he has to deal with a traitor. I believe Blaidd killed Seluvis…maybe Iji killed the black knife assassins, then killed himself using the black flame…

    • @luiseeo
      @luiseeo Рік тому +4

      I also believe Blaidd killed Selluvis. The exact message is "There’s a traitor taken care of. Onwards to Nokron, then. Go on, I’ll catch up." In the play-through I saw it, I was playing on Selluvis side, doing the whole "let's give the potion to Ranni" subquest, to the point that she killed me and I had to use celestial dew to "absolve my sins". After that, Selluvis was dead and you can see the Blaidd message in the crater entrance to Nokron. I don't know if the events line up as nicely in all possible play-throughs. However, it would make a lot of sense for Blaidd to dispose of Selluvis, regardless if you as the player get involved in Selluvis' scheme or not.

    • @DrnMontemayor
      @DrnMontemayor Рік тому +1

      That message also makes me think that, but now I'd have to check if I let Darriwil alive until that point is killed offscreen by Blaidd. Since it could be meant for either of them and would justify the Gaol being free for Iji to put Blaidd in.

    • @kleptokross4358
      @kleptokross4358 Рік тому +6

      I always understood that Seluvis died because Pidia got betrayed by his puppets. There are a few things that indicate that Seluvis is a puppet and whenever Pidia dies he gets “released”.

    • @maximilian2843
      @maximilian2843 Рік тому

      @@luiseeo i thought Ranni killed Seluvis, because after immediately killing the tarnished Seluvis was dead. So i thought this was direct revenge.^^

    • @ShadeStormXD
      @ShadeStormXD 8 місяців тому +1

      i think its more likely iji died in combat with the black knives. killed 3 or so and then died to the burning of the black flame. the rest of the assassins then went on their way to find ranni and died fighting blaidd, whose much more capable in combat then iji

  • @respecthalo2963
    @respecthalo2963 Рік тому +5

    Lore mommy 😍

  • @no.thx.
    @no.thx. Рік тому +1

    I just found your channel with your Hewg video - holy crap! I've seen so many lore videos it's hard to get surprised anymore, but you really are right up there with Vaati and I LOVE to see people making that level of quality content.

  • @garrettwebb5740
    @garrettwebb5740 Рік тому +4

    Iji is best waifu

  • @frankman1998
    @frankman1998 Рік тому +3

    Lore mommy lore mommy

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 5 місяців тому +4

    Sad as the story is and as selfish as Ranni is she’s sadly still the best option to change things and break the endless cycle of torment that the Golden Order produced.

  • @excalibur_maga6188
    @excalibur_maga6188 5 місяців тому +1

    My god youre voice. So relaxing i could listen and watch all day. Thank you for doing what you do.

  • @thelongpatrol7457
    @thelongpatrol7457 Рік тому

    DUDE that mirror helm thing just freaked me out. SO GOOD. I am subbing right now. awesome stuff.

  • @Galamoth06
    @Galamoth06 Рік тому +3

    Are they real?

  • @MrBlablab
    @MrBlablab 6 місяців тому +2

    Never watched your videos until today and I immediately thought, you need to narrate or be a voice actress because that voice is so soothing!

  • @AstroNut88
    @AstroNut88 Рік тому

    The way you tell the story and the sound of your voice heals my soul. Thank you for making these videos.

  • @vincentkeith5259
    @vincentkeith5259 Рік тому

    I can barely imagine how much work went into this behind the scenes. Well done.

  • @tofermartinez4114
    @tofermartinez4114 5 місяців тому

    I’m absolutely obsessed with this deep dive. Thank you, so much.

  • @81rathiel
    @81rathiel Місяць тому

    Simply one of the best vid i ever seen about ER Lore. THANK U. Chapeau

  • @NamelessOden
    @NamelessOden 9 місяців тому

    I just finished Ranni's quest and this video is perfect. SO informational and your voice is perfect for audio books/any form of spoken content. I'm for sure subscribing and checking out your other Elden Ring Lore videos once I progress through the game more :))

  • @DanielGomez-fk3on
    @DanielGomez-fk3on Рік тому +1

    Pretty voice, face and in depth lore!
    Amazing my heart.

  • @ryanroswellcacho
    @ryanroswellcacho Рік тому

    My mind is literally blown for so much informations and theorues that I didn't know in tge game. Thanks for Elaborating them Miss Chalice.

  • @FrostyHeir
    @FrostyHeir Рік тому +1

    Hearing that bit about Seluuvis being a puppet was the biggest "Ah-ha!" moment

  • @ASithLordd
    @ASithLordd Рік тому

    came for the lore, stayed for the voice. Very easy to listen to and reminds me of Enya in a way with the delivery here. Great vid!

  • @noclaf4902
    @noclaf4902 6 місяців тому +1

    I think that the tarnished being the one to kill Blaidd is fitting. We fought together, respected each other, and faithfully served Ranni. Our final act of kindness is to bring him honor by facing him in combat. It’s a mercy killing, really.

  • @Floodsye
    @Floodsye Рік тому

    Finally, a lore youtuber that actually sticks to the in-game details, lore, descriptions, and more. Crazy how many of the other would've made the small point you made about "a wrong texture of the flame" and made it the crux of their entire video. In-universe lore can't draw conclusions from out of universe events and I'm glad to see a lore youtuber that doesn't just have mountains of dev notes and dev interview as "proof" of something. Keep it up !!