Spiral: From the Book of Saw (2021) KILL COUNT

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  • @DeadMeat
    @DeadMeat  2 роки тому +2196

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  • @logans.7932
    @logans.7932 2 роки тому +18092

    I’ll give this movie one thing- the reasoning behind the traps & why people are in them are actually pretty good. In half the later Saw movies it’s like “you’re a smoker? Death.”

    • @isaacso9570
      @isaacso9570 2 роки тому +2273

      You use antidepressants for your depression? Death.

    • @ssharkbait
      @ssharkbait 2 роки тому +1978

      You’re a victim of spousal abuse? Death.

    • @reddeath5791
      @reddeath5791 2 роки тому +1515

      You accidentally stepped on an ant? Death.

    • @leandroteixeira33
      @leandroteixeira33 2 роки тому +2691

      VI: "Smoker working for a corrupt company? DEATH"
      VII: "Married to someone who lied to you ? DEATH"
      Jigsaw: "Did irresponsible things as a teenager? DEATH"

    • @KumaoftheForest
      @KumaoftheForest 2 роки тому +1825

      You put the milk in the bowl before the cereal: Death, now you will drown in milk

  • @samzilla567
    @samzilla567 2 роки тому +1070

    Protip to any future writers: If you don't want your audience to immediately figure out who your mystery villain is. Don't give him a last name that's pronounced Shank!

    • @BestBES
      @BestBES 2 роки тому +28

      And don't show literally every character EXCEPT for that one die

    • @nerdyfoxes8000
      @nerdyfoxes8000 2 роки тому +2

      We... Do realize that the Rita person is a bot, right..?

    • @fidelgarcia2224
      @fidelgarcia2224 2 роки тому

      Idk I mean isn't that how all Saw movies were? Easy to predict who it was

    • @_Alex_Zer0_
      @_Alex_Zer0_ 2 роки тому +3

      @@fidelgarcia2224 _Cough_ Saw 1 _cough_

    • @isabellayankosky4657
      @isabellayankosky4657 2 роки тому

      that and the actor who ends up being the killer plays similar roles in other films😭

  • @LokiMartin
    @LokiMartin 6 місяців тому +8

    "Feels good to be back in the old Saw trap again. Feels like a warm horror hug." I love this line because I've watched a few sequels that get it right and it does feel like a warm hug.

  • @ThatGuy-mw4ol
    @ThatGuy-mw4ol 2 роки тому +4

    “A lot a rocks humor falls flat for me” yeeeah about that

  • @FullArcher05
    @FullArcher05 2 роки тому +145

    I hope this movie gets an unrated release so we can see the cut stuff.

    • @claws811
      @claws811 2 роки тому +12

      @@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 ok

    • @fiddlybiddly
      @fiddlybiddly 2 роки тому

      Already showed a decent amount of the gore in theaters

    • @jewishfish3398
      @jewishfish3398 2 роки тому +7

      @@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 You say that in response to another comment just to put it down, instead of on it's own? You must not get invited to many parties.

    • @adrianstjarnfaldt7359
      @adrianstjarnfaldt7359 2 роки тому

      @@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 ok

    • @TheG.82
      @TheG.82 2 роки тому +5

      @SSSNNNAAKKEEE!!!!!!!!!!
      Who asked for ur opinion tho?

  • @yaboibaylex2664
    @yaboibaylex2664 2 роки тому +28

    Who else is watching this post will smith slapping Chris rock

  • @marcussaint407
    @marcussaint407 2 роки тому +7

    Back here post slap. Just doesn't hit the same

  • @StopLookingAtMyAcc
    @StopLookingAtMyAcc 11 місяців тому +4

    Can't wait for Saw X kill count because that movie went so hard with John. Tobin Bell is John Kramer and he should have all the screen time he is actually amazing

  • @pastel_guts81
    @pastel_guts81 2 роки тому +15

    your little chinese finger trap bit was hilariously accurate with that editing 😂

  • @XyroHarry
    @XyroHarry Рік тому +1

    but you got to admit the voice in the tapes sound a whole lot more fucking creepy than the other movies

  • @MonstrumReborn
    @MonstrumReborn Місяць тому

    This is why I love every saw movie, even if they can be bad or overdone, the twist endings always get me.

  • @f0-f09
    @f0-f09 2 роки тому +7300

    My favorite thing about Spiral was when the official Twitter account got hacked and an image was posted with a buff Jigsaw with a thong posing on his tricycle

    • @ropeneck6395
      @ropeneck6395 2 роки тому +148

      Really⁉️😂

    • @katkay9923
      @katkay9923 2 роки тому +501

      That makes everything wrong w this movie 103% worth it

    • @marmelade8331
      @marmelade8331 2 роки тому +268

      I've read it was a marketing campaign but that was amazing yeah

    • @f0-f09
      @f0-f09 2 роки тому +212

      @@marmelade8331 then i would say it was a pretty hilarious and clever campaign

    • @somebodyfamiliar6476
      @somebodyfamiliar6476 2 роки тому +33

      You are blessed with 420. Congrats.

  • @cherryblossom00000
    @cherryblossom00000 2 роки тому +12340

    I love that Chris Rock just said "hey im a big fan of Saw and i wanna be in one, and i have this really cool idea" and Lionsgate just went "yes of course anything, youre Chris Rock"

    • @MemecastGuy
      @MemecastGuy 2 роки тому +67

      You’re

    • @wtfzealous
      @wtfzealous 2 роки тому +177

      @@MemecastGuy grammar nazi = bum

    • @klusterfuk3688
      @klusterfuk3688 2 роки тому +63

      @@MemecastGuy looks like we got ourselves a grammar Nazi

    • @cherryblossom00000
      @cherryblossom00000 2 роки тому +536

      @@MemecastGuy thanks pal, what ever would i have done without you

    • @Jamie-qq5lt
      @Jamie-qq5lt 2 роки тому +167

      Shame that "cool idea" ended up being complete shit

  • @Arthus850
    @Arthus850 2 роки тому +2750

    When he said “John Kramer didn’t target cops” he meant he didn’t target cops specifically, as in he didn’t go after the police force, or any collective group for that matter. He targeted individuals based on their actions, whether they be cops or not. The new Spiral Killer specifically targeting the police force does not fit Kramer’s MO, nor any of his disciples.

    • @victorweiss2833
      @victorweiss2833 Рік тому +53

      Didn't john Kramer in saw 2 specifically go after a group of people that where all framed by 1 cop? And also in at least the first 3 he goes after almost every cop or detective that tries to arrest him. I know it's not a specific police force or anything and it doesn't fit perfectly but I'm just saying it might be a nitpick at a nitpick of a dumb line.

    • @QuiteSincere
      @QuiteSincere Рік тому +155

      @@victorweiss2833 They JUST said he didn't EXCLUSIVELY target cops. He didn't EXCLUDE cops, he just didn't make a literal pig-cop puppet and exclusively kill cops, it's not that complicated. Also it's worth remembering these aren't random civillians AND it's been a long time since Saw VII, everyone presumably knows that Kramer specifically died in Saw III and there were accomplices with different motives.
      Imo the biggest flaw with this Saw besides length is the twist being telegraphed. It would have been nice to have never actually seen a kill, only follow Chris Rock's character as he tries to piece it together from the results and giving us flashbacks to them, that way it's perfectly reasonable both to show us the Rookie dying AND him to be wrong, especially when it decides to emphasis how much he's losing it after the Rookie dies. I think this could have been the best Saw since the second if it'd gotten another draft or two.

    • @designertonio5801
      @designertonio5801 Рік тому

      i laughed everytime i heard ( i want to play a game ), sounds like some fat white kid. definitely couldn't take the saw killer serious this movie

    • @longliverocknroll5
      @longliverocknroll5 Рік тому +43

      Yeah, at least this serial killer had a halfway decent motive as opposed to "this dude smoked his whole life" and "this grieving mother is handling the death of her child the way I want her to".

    • @mike48931
      @mike48931 Рік тому +7

      @victorweiss2833 the only police officer that John targeted for being a dirty cop was Mathews. Other cops that were targeted were targeted because they were either convenient and fit John’s ideological requirements or in Hoffman’s case he simply needed to get rid of them. Every cop that was targeted except Mathew’s was due to things that didn’t necessarily involve their profession. You could argue Kerry and Riggs, but ultimately it was more about their obsession than their choice of career.

  • @andrewraflah7213
    @andrewraflah7213 2 роки тому +4886

    I can’t watch a movie with Chris Rock without think about the zebra from Madagascar, it was my childhood

    • @rasaziel3047
      @rasaziel3047 2 роки тому +268

      Literally can’t take his voice seriously

    • @urgonnahaveabadtime
      @urgonnahaveabadtime 2 роки тому +135

      Same thing for me except osmosis Jones

    • @g3m1n1plays2
      @g3m1n1plays2 2 роки тому +44

      @@urgonnahaveabadtime omg I love osmosis jones

    • @Karma-pq9fi
      @Karma-pq9fi 2 роки тому +40

      I think of everybody hates Chris.

    • @aznlee2817
      @aznlee2817 2 роки тому +26

      Or Kurt from Grown Ups.

  • @My_cats_name_is_Meophine
    @My_cats_name_is_Meophine 2 роки тому +3738

    I did not expect James will sing "The Ultimate Showdown" for next kill count trailer
    Yesterday we got a reanimated version

    • @axelnilsson5124
      @axelnilsson5124 2 роки тому +17

      Excepted zoran to talk like a wwe judge

    • @sjahbw
      @sjahbw 2 роки тому +4

      Lallalalalala

    • @timvroege1136
      @timvroege1136 2 роки тому +6

      Wait... an animated version? Where? I have to see this!

    • @skeven0
      @skeven0 2 роки тому +3

      @@timvroege1136 ultimate showdown colab 15year aniversiry

    • @Jade-ki8un
      @Jade-ki8un 2 роки тому +10

      Love unexpected Lemon Demon

  • @vetortheplaguewerewolf
    @vetortheplaguewerewolf 2 роки тому +15660

    This is why I love Dead Meat. Even though he didn't like the movie, He still talked about how much effort the crew put into it and he's respectful of other peoples opinions. I hate certain movie reviewers that either take it too seriously, hate on people that disagree with them, or just overexaggerate things. I know that Dead Meat isn't really a movie review, but he has some elements of being a reviewer.

    • @urgae9125
      @urgae9125 2 роки тому +415

      James has made jokes about being a movie reviewer, so technically he is. He just focuses on the bodies dropping. It's why he craps on Thankskilling instead of just going "here's the dead bodies, bye."

    • @VeteranGamerVault
      @VeteranGamerVault 2 роки тому +141

      His opinions on Jason Takes Manhatton is great haha “This movie suuuuuucks”

    • @acrobat441
      @acrobat441 2 роки тому +16

      I did love how he had finger traps too

    • @baileypeters860
      @baileypeters860 2 роки тому +47

      i love how even if he hates the film like thankskilling he still gives it a 15 minute video of tge kills and behind of the scenes gotta love his effort

    • @bobjoe2955
      @bobjoe2955 2 роки тому +36

      I agree. There are those who write the movies, and those who make the movies. I thought the plot was terrible, but the behind the scenes stuff was great.

  • @Radioactive_Skittles
    @Radioactive_Skittles 10 місяців тому +360

    I love that final kill cause doesn’t just resemble a puppet, it’s literally pulling the strings and manipulating his movements. The way the movie makes you think that zeke is going to be framed as the crazy guy with a gun and turning it around is so cool

  • @pandadude6912
    @pandadude6912 2 роки тому +5975

    The tongue trap is literally unwinnable, there's so many veins and muscles in the tongue you'd bleed out before you even made it to the end of that tunnel

    • @foulXD
      @foulXD 2 роки тому +919

      @R G non surviveable traps are boring af, dude.

    • @farukss3836
      @farukss3836 2 роки тому +160

      @R G me

    • @applesas942
      @applesas942 2 роки тому +837

      Since it's not John Kramer, the traps are bound to be unfair since he doesn't share his rhetoric

    • @kalebkennedy327
      @kalebkennedy327 2 роки тому +73

      @R G Alot of Saw fans actually

    • @nataliealphonse4634
      @nataliealphonse4634 2 роки тому +169

      @@foulXD tbf literally all the traps in this movie are boring af. The only interesting thing was the finger one and in that the water fills up too fast for you to have any chance. You can tell traps we're an afterthought in this one

  • @RandomBubble
    @RandomBubble 2 роки тому +4139

    I love how other movie reviewers talk about the actors mostly, but James goes into the music, directors, actors, and even behind the scenes.
    He works so hard for his UA-cam videos and it shows. Thank you.

    • @LetsTaIk
      @LetsTaIk 2 роки тому +29

      Along with his editors

    • @NerdSquared
      @NerdSquared 2 роки тому +27

      Hard agree on this. It's what got me hooked on his channel, especially when he did kill counts on the Final Destination films

    • @RandomBubble
      @RandomBubble 2 роки тому +14

      @@NerdSquared I found myself, more than once, binging his videos so much that I’d rewatch videos up to 3 times by accident. I was sad when I exhausted all of his videos, so I stopped watching for a minute. Every time I come back, I am satisfied 10x because he is just so amazing.
      I’m glad more people agree with this statement.

    • @NguyenPham-bl6qm
      @NguyenPham-bl6qm 2 роки тому +6

      @@RandomBubble The behind the scenes are just awesome. Favorite of mine is Dawn of the Dead.

    • @rasmustagu
      @rasmustagu 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly

  • @dmitryboardman9762
    @dmitryboardman9762 2 роки тому +2330

    I understand the impulse to show the gory results of a trap killing someone, but the scenario of surviving a trap that's not guaranteed to kill someone feels a little underused. We have Amanda in the Reverse Bear Trap (EDIT: forgot she had to kill someone, oops), then two characters beating unsurvivable traps (Strahm and Hoffman), but almost every Jigsaw survivor was paired with other people who had to die in their trap. I think the reason people saw the the first film as more sophisticated was that it had scary scenarios without feeling compelled to show the worst outcomes of every single one, and a character being a survivor of their Jigsaw experience automatically makes them more interesting in the plot going forward.

    • @likedvidsz
      @likedvidsz 2 роки тому +16

      I see you everywhere man. Where am I going to see you next thicc pawg teen twerk videos

    • @somethingclever8916
      @somethingclever8916 2 роки тому +93

      No one surviving the traps really took something from this film

    • @LunaBeth97
      @LunaBeth97 2 роки тому +117

      While I do agree with you, I honestly think that the point of the traps in this film were to appear to be survivable but actually is completely impossible to survive. John Kramer's motive was to make people realise the value of living whereas this guy just wants to punish dirty cops. If they survive, how would it change anything in a positive way other than putting a huge target on the guys back? As an example of the perceived survival in these traps, the finger pulling one is impossible to survive as the person was complying with the task completely but a short break caused him to be electrocuted which I think would have happened either way. I do agree with you in that the fact that there are several survivors of jigsaws traps makes each trap more valuable as we don't know how it's going to go but this film is more like if John died and Amanda completely took over as she had conflicting motives. Sorry that this is off topic but I don't have anyone irl to share my theories with😂

    • @acbwest
      @acbwest 2 роки тому +43

      @@LunaBeth97 i agree 100% with your comparison to Amanda. These traps can seem either ameteurish or rigged against the victims because they’re dirty cops. I’d like to see someone survive in the next one though!

    • @SomniaCE
      @SomniaCE 2 роки тому +14

      The Saw movies are a victim of caring more about the gore and creating the absurdly over the top nonsense lore that people gravitated to in the first couple films. Its a shame thay we'll likely never see a more grounded and believable Saw style of story.

  • @JW-zx5dr
    @JW-zx5dr 2 роки тому +1634

    YOOO! The ending!
    “Ultimate Showdown” is a timeless gem

    • @SEP0...0HEP
      @SEP0...0HEP 2 роки тому +14

      Is it a parody?
      I recognise it but I also don't?
      It does sound killer tho

    • @tylerroads9209
      @tylerroads9209 2 роки тому +45

      @@SEP0...0HEP it's a parody of 'Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny' by Neil Cicerga!

    • @SEP0...0HEP
      @SEP0...0HEP 2 роки тому +10

      @@tylerroads9209 ooo thx! I remember that goodness it's been a while since I've heard it XD

    • @hellaflyphotoguy
      @hellaflyphotoguy 2 роки тому +26

      Kids don’t even know this classic nowadays 😩

    • @JW-zx5dr
      @JW-zx5dr 2 роки тому +2

      @@SEP0...0HEP
      Sorry, I would have replied sooner! But I didn’t even get a UA-cam notification.
      (Also someone has done an animation collaboration of Ultimate Showdown very recently, I highly recommend it. It’s called “Ultimate Showdown 15th Anniversary Redux Collab”)

  • @swag304
    @swag304 2 роки тому +777

    If I had a nickel for every time Chris rock played a cop that’s hated because they did what they thought was right, that also jokes a lot, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.

    • @-Wayla-
      @-Wayla- 2 роки тому +66

      Are we talking about Osmosis Jones

    • @MrBeenus
      @MrBeenus 2 роки тому +12

      It's really not that weird.

    • @swag304
      @swag304 2 роки тому +15

      @@-Wayla- yeah

    • @Sturniolo22
      @Sturniolo22 2 роки тому +6

      @@MrBeenus Its an incorrect quote/joke. It isn't weird, but the saying/quote says "its weird that it happened twice."

    • @inoli3164
      @inoli3164 2 роки тому +29

      @@Sturniolo22 isn’t the quote from Phineas and Ferb? More specifically from Dr. Doofemshurz?

  • @TellItAnimated
    @TellItAnimated 2 роки тому +6368

    Nice! I wasn’t a huge fan of Spiral, without John Kramer’s presence it felt very little like a SAW film

    • @ImaginePayingTaxes
      @ImaginePayingTaxes 2 роки тому +21

      Yea lol

    • @mr.minioncat2187
      @mr.minioncat2187 2 роки тому +111

      I liked spiral from the book of saw bc it had Samuel l Jackson lol!

    • @XBeastModeXEPIC
      @XBeastModeXEPIC 2 роки тому +10

      Tf

    • @kyrohowe3156
      @kyrohowe3156 2 роки тому +37

      @@mr.minioncat2187 I like Samuel Jackson too

    • @Lareni
      @Lareni 2 роки тому +62

      Disagree. This felt exactly like a Saw movie to me.

  • @RoxxyKaosGG
    @RoxxyKaosGG 2 роки тому +860

    This movie wasn't terrible, but I hate that it was easy to guess the antagonist from the trailer alone. Plus, the skinning scene solidified that it was definitely him. And how can they introduce Lawrence Gordon as the OG without continuing?!

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 2 роки тому +42

      I guessed it was him since he was kinda the only really good bloke throughout the film

    • @claudiurogojan7114
      @claudiurogojan7114 2 роки тому +36

      Yeah as soon as he came on screen I guessed it was him, and I guessed pretty much everything after, especially the crying baby scene that was obvious it was fake crying, I literally guessed the exact details of it, this movie was painfully predictable.

    • @CabezasDePescado
      @CabezasDePescado 2 роки тому +8

      It was one of the worst movies of the year

    • @NokoFace
      @NokoFace 2 роки тому +25

      That's my problem with most "teaser" trailers these days, be it for movies or video games. They just spoil too much to generate hype that when the thing comes out, half of the plot you know already.

    • @gh0style239
      @gh0style239 2 роки тому +2

      @@NokoFace or if its a particularly bad movie, the trailer shows all the good parts, or in the case of suicide squad i dont even think half the trailer was in the movie bc the full movie was so boring compared to how the trailer made it look

  • @EliteWokiesNonEliteRichHuhlolz
    @EliteWokiesNonEliteRichHuhlolz 2 роки тому +923

    James: This movie's pretty obvious plot twist is revealed.
    Me: Yup. It was his fathe- uh- Oh shit😐😒🙄

    • @slyctonbits
      @slyctonbits 2 роки тому +58

      literally me, lol

    • @MyoticTesseract
      @MyoticTesseract 2 роки тому +35

      tbf i was stuck between it being either his dad or his partner

    • @lifeonthenickel
      @lifeonthenickel 2 роки тому +35

      Just know, that actor is usually the bad guy in everything.

    • @weebpotato2366
      @weebpotato2366 2 роки тому +3

      I suspected his partner but then he “died” so I thought it was his dad or another dirty cop lol 😂

  • @jenniswatching7
    @jenniswatching7 2 роки тому +1757

    I think the issue James is having with the movie is that he’s seeing it as a Saw movie. It’s not, it’s in the same universe, but it’s not a sequel. I do, however, agree that Chris Rock’s comedy fell a little flat. It felt forced. The suspense and overall mystery throughout the film was very well done. I

    • @Geo-wo4kw
      @Geo-wo4kw 2 роки тому +33

      I agree specially the twilight part. Man, that's where i realized he's trying so hard to put some humor around the movie. But i love the forest gump part.

    • @mr_pumpernickel4804
      @mr_pumpernickel4804 2 роки тому +16

      I agree I loved the mystery element

    • @Quesoquantum
      @Quesoquantum Рік тому +4

      @Geo ok I made fun of that joke earlier because of the statement itself being jarring but it was lowkey hilarious

    • @DS3Enjoyer
      @DS3Enjoyer Рік тому +31

      Then they shouldn't call it a saw movie. That's a shit defense

    • @Sweetdude64
      @Sweetdude64 Рік тому +3

      you what?

  • @jevilcore
    @jevilcore 2 роки тому +627

    I think the “Jigsaw didn’t target cops” line meant that he didn’t SPECIFICALLY target cops- his targets were anybody who did wrong in his eyes, it just so happened that a lot of people who did wrong were dirty cops, in contrast to this killer who is only killing cops.

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 2 роки тому +47

      This
      He killed cops but it wasn’t the bread and butter for him and the vast majority weren’t cops

    • @SweetMargonade
      @SweetMargonade 2 роки тому +35

      Also he specified Kramer but the examples used were Amanda who didn’t follow the rules, not Kramer.

    • @sylviedevine5295
      @sylviedevine5295 2 роки тому +7

      He targeted ‘bad’ people, some of whom happened to be cops

    • @SniperDiplomat
      @SniperDiplomat 2 роки тому +6

      @@sylviedevine5295 He kills a lot of random cops with booby traps, which makes his whole "I despise murderers" schtick even more baffling.

    • @eddieolshefski6467
      @eddieolshefski6467 2 роки тому +8

      @@SniperDiplomat The only cops Jigsaw killed were Detective Sing from Saw 1 and a couple SWAT officiers from Saw 2. He never purposely targeted cops. As for the other cops like Detective Kerry, Officer Rigg and Detective Matthews, they were killed by Amanda and Hoffman.

  • @exknight39
    @exknight39 2 роки тому +1313

    The thumbnail is too good. Its just funny to see a Kill Count title then you see Chris Rock's face

  • @TheStorytellerWolf
    @TheStorytellerWolf 2 роки тому +573

    I appreciate that even though you didn’t like the movie as much, you showed all the effort the crew put into producing it.

  • @ironikz4006
    @ironikz4006 Рік тому +316

    Banks death was probably the most disturbing death in the movie. Getting the blood drained out of him for hours, "set free", and then reset into the trap as he begs for help until shot while his son has to watch. Other deaths were messed up but his was the worst

  • @Kirby950
    @Kirby950 2 роки тому +1747

    I appreciate your parody of “Ultimate Showdown” for Freddy vs Jason
    Edit: 22:51 is the timestamp where it starts, but please watch the entire video first, y’all know how hard James works on these.

    • @Thechaosmaster1997
      @Thechaosmaster1997 2 роки тому +35

      So do I. I really want a full cover for this released.

    • @afflicks
      @afflicks 2 роки тому +9

      I do aswell

    • @graymyers
      @graymyers 2 роки тому +28

      Ultimate Showdown is a classic that’s still insanely good

    • @Kelptonic
      @Kelptonic 2 роки тому +8

      Wanting it on Amazon music

    • @tentakrool7032
      @tentakrool7032 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah it was nice.

  • @lukedufour
    @lukedufour 2 роки тому +890

    Gotta say, that song parody for Ultimate Showdown at the end of the video was actually really awesome! It is so awesome to 1) be reminded of that classic youtube gem of a song and 2) show some love to it in a honestly really well written parody.
    The video was great too but I wanted to definitely give some love to that tease for the next episode.
    Much love! God bless!

    • @Skarletkombat
      @Skarletkombat 2 роки тому +3

      I completely agree

    • @CouchSpud91
      @CouchSpud91 2 роки тому +5

      I actually busted out laughing at how amazing of a reference it was. Full on nostalgia trip while being simultaneously dumb yet entertaining. A true classic UA-cam moment.

  • @twinpeaksreference3981
    @twinpeaksreference3981 2 роки тому +920

    "Today it is you who will be railroaded"
    "The tide of justice is rising around you"
    "Your career was shattered like glass"
    Spiral might have changed a lot, but at least it kept the ridiculous metaphors of the originals.

  • @sorenfirestar2657
    @sorenfirestar2657 2 роки тому +697

    Honestly I actually really enjoyed spiral honestly, I think rock's humor falling flat kind of helps the character feel more like that cop who's trying to be likable but fails. I also found the style to be intense and fun

  • @wad316
    @wad316 2 роки тому +1992

    Chris Rock falls flat in some scenes, but he feels authentic thanks to his enthusiasm for the franchise. I loved the film, the lack of shaky cam, and the shots. Look forward to the sequel

    • @nataliealphonse4634
      @nataliealphonse4634 2 роки тому +60

      I just really hope they go back to the trap plot/cop plot set up, as much as this can be a fun movie I don't watch a Saw film for drama. GUVE ME THAT INDUSTRIAL MURDER BABY

    • @marteenee88
      @marteenee88 2 роки тому +13

      He's trying too hard to show he's funny in what should be dark humour or melo drama

    • @K.B.P.
      @K.B.P. 2 роки тому +21

      @@marteenee88 his funny is the same as if one was to go to the bar and sit next to the newly drunk divorcee who now hates women..

    • @marteenee88
      @marteenee88 2 роки тому +8

      @@K.B.P. haha 😂 true same for Dave Chappelle

    • @jeremiah7244
      @jeremiah7244 2 роки тому +6

      @@marteenee88 Dave chappelle is hilarious.

  • @MSUParker
    @MSUParker 2 роки тому +1195

    Dude the last scene of Chris Rock just screaming watching his dad die is just insane

    • @shukrysii828
      @shukrysii828 2 роки тому +137

      Proper closing to a Saw film that shows the antagonist getting their way and is definitely a homage to the first Saw ending. Just wished for myself the ending hit the beat that it needs but I am welcome to seeing a continuation of this storyline with more plot substance and dialogue and character that breathes life into the world setting.

    • @Blueklima9708
      @Blueklima9708 2 роки тому +41

      I agree, in retrospect it’s all very messy, but I remember losing my mind in the theater while watching that scene

    • @designertonio5801
      @designertonio5801 2 роки тому +2

      all i did was laugh everytime i heard ( i want to play a game ) it sound like some kid behind a mic tryna threat someone

  • @SugarSloth
    @SugarSloth 2 роки тому +1249

    I really, really dig James' honesty. The way he explained his feelings on the movie was nothing short of well thought out and 100% real.

    • @quattrobajeena135
      @quattrobajeena135 2 роки тому +17

      What stop wearing your blinders; the man literally said he didn’t like the movie but was paid to promote it. Now that the moneys over he doesn’t like the film lol

    • @quattrobajeena135
      @quattrobajeena135 2 роки тому

      @@dream_killer-cc3vr glad you see it for how it is

    • @kalebkennedy327
      @kalebkennedy327 2 роки тому +8

      Ehh as much as I watched James since Year 1DM, he def changed his motives/approach. I understand its his job, so paid promotions make sense, but how he's approached certain movies within the past half year has been lacklustered. Train to Busan really upset me because he really only cared about behind the scenes, he put crazy work into Zombie Land 2 and tried so hard to count kills, On Busan he just goes "I dont see them die on screen". It was a train filled with people, and 1 zombie, but then it becomes a full train of zombos....We all know they died. He built his channel off counting kills, everything amazing like bts and bloopers were always extra. I understand things change, but I definitely think a focus on "Kill Counts" should be the....Kill Count.

    • @tiffa808
      @tiffa808 2 роки тому +1

      And let's all acknowledge the fact that he was still happier than he was did Thankskilling 3! He should never be that sad again.

    • @designertonio5801
      @designertonio5801 2 роки тому +1

      all i did was laugh everytime i heard ( i want to play a game ) it sound like some fat kid behind a mic tryna threat someone

  • @KiyoKiyo982
    @KiyoKiyo982 Рік тому +121

    lowkey excited for James to make a killcount of Saw X

  • @famousthaneus9810
    @famousthaneus9810 2 роки тому +768

    I think the “Kramer didn’t target cops” line meant “Kramer didn’t solely target people *because* they were cops. Some of his victims just happened to be cops.” Completely different

    • @compatriot852
      @compatriot852 2 роки тому +53

      Could have been worded differently though

    • @LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit
      @LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit 2 роки тому +27

      Plus, wasn't the cop used as an example captured by Amanda and not John?

    • @__orbiter__
      @__orbiter__ 2 роки тому +1

      exactly!

    • @lamshae6070
      @lamshae6070 2 роки тому +1

      Indeed

    • @Rclarke115
      @Rclarke115 2 роки тому +23

      If anyone’s targeted cops, it was those working or worked for him.
      Amanda targeted Eric Matthews for placing evidence that got her thrown in jail. She then placed Kerry in an unsolvable game that got her killed since she probably knew of this but didn’t say anything.
      Mark Hoffman put Daniel Rigg through a test to teach him a lesson in procedural but he ended up failing, costing him and Eric’s life. Hoffman then killed Strahm after he was getting too close to unveiling his secret, then killed 3 FBI agents immediately after finding out, then set his sights on Matt Gibson for protecting Jill Tuck. After refusing to hand her over, Hoffman killed Gibson, whatever was left of Rigg’s SWAT team and Gibson’s entire unit.
      Finally, Logan set his sights on Brad Halloran for a variety of reasons. He took bribes, planting evidence, let the worst criminals walk free (one of which who killed Logan’s wife) causing an array of aggravated crimes throughout the city.
      If anyone didn’t seem to respect Jigsaw’s morals or ideals… Mark Hoffman seemed like a lost cause from the start.

  • @Xeppeling
    @Xeppeling 2 роки тому +359

    How did we go from “new Jigsaw isn’t an engineer so tongue vice” to “huge marionette man with cool deployable shotgun and arm-raising action!”?

    • @eddieolshefski6467
      @eddieolshefski6467 2 роки тому +14

      Reason being is cause these traps William devised suited the person in them. Least we have seen that with the puppet trap and finger trap, he has some ingenuity skills like what Jigsaw had. We might see more in the future.

    • @xx_redwood_xx9737
      @xx_redwood_xx9737 2 роки тому +4

      Eh, all it really takes is a piston and a pulley

    • @eddieolshefski6467
      @eddieolshefski6467 2 роки тому +3

      @@xx_redwood_xx9737 But you gotta be sure the piston and pulley work to how you want it to work.

    • @xx_redwood_xx9737
      @xx_redwood_xx9737 2 роки тому +2

      @@eddieolshefski6467 It's really not that hard to test things.
      Plus, you only gotta lift his arm up and push a beam out from under it.

    • @eddieolshefski6467
      @eddieolshefski6467 2 роки тому +4

      @@xx_redwood_xx9737 True it ain’t hard to test things. But again, you gotta make sure it is constructed to function how you want it to work. Can’t just build stuff on the fly and something goes wrong in the process.
      That does get you to think what would happen with all the traps in the franchise if not fully tested.

  • @Arepovolepic
    @Arepovolepic 2 роки тому +1458

    The Freddy vs Jason kill count recount trailer song is actually dope af, ngl

    • @rover_libra
      @rover_libra 2 роки тому +69

      It's a parody of 'The Ultimate Showdown'. Can't remember the artist though. I also remember SMG4 doing a parody of it.

    • @larsg5162
      @larsg5162 2 роки тому +42

      It's a parody of The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny!

    • @Jackmoo101
      @Jackmoo101 2 роки тому +21

      @@rover_libra lemon demon

    • @axelnilsson5124
      @axelnilsson5124 2 роки тому +2

      Expected it to be more of a wwe parody

    • @jsbmx2039
      @jsbmx2039 2 роки тому

      So good

  • @epicbear4679
    @epicbear4679 2 роки тому +363

    The character Chris Rock plays here is basically Osmosis Jones

    • @thedude8457
      @thedude8457 2 роки тому +13

      So Zeke is an antromomorphic white blood cell police officer?😂

    • @sansthedrummer
      @sansthedrummer 2 роки тому +1

      Thank you!!! I'm not the only one who saw that. Some of the same story beats and everything

    • @cacho2112
      @cacho2112 2 роки тому +1

      A much better film IMO

    • @thedude8457
      @thedude8457 2 роки тому +5

      @Brandon Knight but not a white blood cell tho. He’s a black blood cell

    • @Koskibroski
      @Koskibroski 2 роки тому

      God no.

  • @StupidNSimplesns
    @StupidNSimplesns 2 роки тому +1468

    I can't listen to Zeke talk without hearing Marty from Madagascar

  • @explosion2197
    @explosion2197 2 роки тому +359

    James:”rest in peace you sanctimonious bastard”
    Cramer:wakes up”so you want to play a game?”

    • @Starlight-by3cf
      @Starlight-by3cf 2 роки тому +11

      Also James: i want to apologize

    • @aHumanBeing97
      @aHumanBeing97 2 роки тому +4

      Just so you’re aware, their last name starts with a K, not a C!

    • @justahuglyahhboi9676
      @justahuglyahhboi9676 2 роки тому +3

      @@Starlight-by3cf Kramer: Sorry, but that’s not how the game work James! You do not deserve your FREEDOM!

    • @prestonthebeston1735
      @prestonthebeston1735 2 роки тому

      @@justahuglyahhboi9676 you do not deserve you are freedom?

  • @original_demonic
    @original_demonic 2 роки тому +202

    Just because you don’t like a movie doesn’t mean you can just dismiss everything that other people have made. You show this perfectly. Like how I’m not a fan of natural disaster movies, I can still realise if something is still good even if I don’t personally like it. I’m glad you highlight this :).

  • @eqWillibrium
    @eqWillibrium 2 роки тому +507

    Didn’t expect James to serenade us with a cover of “Ultimate Showdown”. Definitely not complaining

    • @thegrandxbunny2073
      @thegrandxbunny2073 2 роки тому +3

      This song alone is why we need more horror crossovers.

  • @DDaegan
    @DDaegan 2 роки тому +1220

    Seeing Nick Fury and Osmosis Jones flash guns at each other is peak cinema

    • @urgonnahaveabadtime
      @urgonnahaveabadtime 2 роки тому +21

      I just realized it then lmao

    • @footsalt28
      @footsalt28 2 роки тому +19

      Bro that’s mace windu

    • @landontandem1320
      @landontandem1320 2 роки тому +11

      @@footsalt28 But that's... whatever that Burger loving Bible quoting hitman's name was.

    • @UltimateGamerCC
      @UltimateGamerCC 2 роки тому +2

      @@footsalt28 Bro, that's Shaft! XD

    • @UltimateGamerCC
      @UltimateGamerCC 2 роки тому

      @@appratows6795 lol nah dude, i remembered the trailer, unless you're talking about yourself... but you should've said "hold onto your butts", since we're all on a Sam L kick. XD

  • @-That1Ghost-
    @-That1Ghost- 2 роки тому +703

    The way James says "A PIG!" is great, I love it and I don't know why.

    • @jet2169
      @jet2169 2 роки тому +10

      easily the best parts of the video

    • @-That1Ghost-
      @-That1Ghost- 2 роки тому +4

      @@jet2169 your absolutely correct

    • @ajaxjohnson7999
      @ajaxjohnson7999 2 роки тому +13

      17:33 had me in stitches!! 🤣😂🤣😂

    • @ClickonYT04
      @ClickonYT04 Рік тому +4

      13:25

  • @BrosArk
    @BrosArk 2 роки тому +19

    it was a g.i jane joke

    • @Nira789
      @Nira789 4 місяці тому

      Bro😂

  • @phffffbt
    @phffffbt 2 роки тому +515

    Chris Rock's character actually AGREEING to join this movie's Jigsaw was the most interesting part and the fact that they immediately squander it frustrates me to no end.
    Like we constantly hear of Jigsaw's many accomplices and see flashbacks of them, but a real time partnership forming would've been something new at least.

    • @xxx0ox0
      @xxx0ox0 2 роки тому +33

      i think he was just agreeing so his dad wouldn't die, but i guess they leave it up to interruption

    • @marctm7614
      @marctm7614 2 роки тому +11

      @@xxx0ox0 Interpretation, for future reference.

    • @xxx0ox0
      @xxx0ox0 2 роки тому +7

      @@marctm7614 auto correct grammar police

    • @3DSDF
      @3DSDF 2 роки тому +4

      I saw it as him agreeing just to put his partner at ease, so that Rock will arrest him once the guy’s guard is down.
      Joining Jigsaw seems to be out of character since despite knowing how corrupt his coworkers were, Rock still attempted to save them even after they treated him like shit.

  • @StoicVitalityRecaps
    @StoicVitalityRecaps 2 роки тому +334

    But he's right john kramer didn't target cops. He targeted many different individuals. He was stating that the new killer targets cops while John's targets were more vast.

    • @B1998-u6i
      @B1998-u6i 2 роки тому +66

      Yeah, the issue is more how the line is written.
      "John Kramer didn't target cops" implies he NEVER went after cops in all of the movies. Should have been "John Kramer didn't JUST target cops"

    • @STRAKAZulu
      @STRAKAZulu 2 роки тому +2

      @@B1998-u6i came here to say exactly this.

    • @RLucas3000
      @RLucas3000 2 роки тому +4

      @@B1998-u6i That’s a perfect fix for that line.

    • @leandroteixeira33
      @leandroteixeira33 2 роки тому +5

      @@B1998-u6i
      Like someone said below, tecnically John never targetted cops in that way. The sole exception was Hoffmann and being a cop wasn't the reason John chose him. His accomplices targetted cops, not him.

    • @DevDoesDigimon
      @DevDoesDigimon 2 роки тому +1

      @@leandroteixeira33 There was also the Cop in 4 who served as the main trap plot of the film, s well as the cop in the same movie who got his head crushed by blocks of ice. Again though, they both would have been just fine had the first cop done the task properly instead of trying to be Superman.

  • @gravenightghoul
    @gravenightghoul 2 роки тому +124

    Can we talk about how the main villains entire last trap hinders on the idea that Chris Rock wouldn't just pistol whip him? lol.

    • @s3dchr
      @s3dchr 2 роки тому +16

      Or just fucking testify against him later.

    • @rydertyler1
      @rydertyler1 2 роки тому +5

      I mean, TO BE FAIR, the man aside from the first part where Chris's character is processing the situation as he told it to him, he kept his distance from Rock, he would have saw it coming from like at least 8 feet or more away since he walked away from Chris.

  • @flannelgay420
    @flannelgay420 2 роки тому +2451

    The progression throughout this kill count series of James saying “a PIG!” with increasing enthusiasm is great, and every time he does it in this video I still find it hilarious

    • @milkiekittie6659
      @milkiekittie6659 2 роки тому +9

      I laugh too

    • @Quesoquantum
      @Quesoquantum Рік тому +5

      It will never not be funny

    • @TheParadoxZone2
      @TheParadoxZone2 Рік тому

      Awe pig! Get oinked!

    • @_GeoDraws_
      @_GeoDraws_ Рік тому +9

      If he ever decides to do a Saw Series: Recount I hope he does all the “aaAAH, PIG!” bits with the same amount of enthusiasm from this kill count-

    • @dr.chickennugget5228
      @dr.chickennugget5228 11 місяців тому +1

      I did too

  • @alexwong3902
    @alexwong3902 2 роки тому +769

    That was a sick “On the Next Kill Count” scene

    • @steviecarlos3851
      @steviecarlos3851 2 роки тому +27

      This is the ultimate showdown! Finally someone actually said something about thay

    • @rykerstevens6661
      @rykerstevens6661 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah!

    • @MissSun23
      @MissSun23 2 роки тому +12

      22:51 (self mark for me lol)

    • @designertonio5801
      @designertonio5801 2 роки тому

      all i did was laugh everytime i heard ( i want to play a game ) it sound like some fat kid behind a mic tryna threat someone

  • @thisprofilepicisakittyboi9831
    @thisprofilepicisakittyboi9831 2 роки тому +241

    I actually want to hear a full version of that “Ultimate Showdown” parody you did for Freddy vs Jason.

    • @felixdeluxe5060
      @felixdeluxe5060 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah. it was great - and much better than "Spiral" or C. Rock!

    • @gamer-dy3is
      @gamer-dy3is 2 роки тому

      Yeah i'd listen to that alot

    • @gamer-dy3is
      @gamer-dy3is 2 роки тому

      And here I thought that no one remembered The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny by Lemon Demon any more

  • @gusgus7457
    @gusgus7457 2 роки тому +291

    Fun fact: he first trap is almost impossible to beat seeming as if you drop down and rip your tongue out you will bleed out in minutes, before you can get help

    • @nataliealphonse4634
      @nataliealphonse4634 2 роки тому +3

      Huh does that mean that all those scenes in movies of people getting their tongue cut out and then running around are total bs?

    • @beepobeepo
      @beepobeepo 2 роки тому +10

      @@nataliealphonse4634 it depends on how much is cut out i think. like a small chunk wouldnt be as life threatening as yoinking the /entire/ thing

    • @zacharybruursema2345
      @zacharybruursema2345 2 роки тому +5

      @@beepobeepo Yoink is officially my favorite word in the English language now

    • @Unknown-oo4hh
      @Unknown-oo4hh 2 роки тому +3

      None of the trap are winnable

    • @rhysrhysrhys_
      @rhysrhysrhys_ 2 роки тому +1

      Really? I thought having the tongue amputated was a common punishment in medieval times

  • @Jhon-hy6xk
    @Jhon-hy6xk 2 роки тому +91

    "Hello detective, I want to play a game... In 60 seconds, Will Smith will get inside your room... Live or die... Hu hu hu ha ha ha ha"

  • @ioanimator4529
    @ioanimator4529 2 роки тому +321

    Saw victim: Survives
    John Kramer: Alright you're my partner now

    • @dog4953
      @dog4953 2 роки тому +1

      Bruh

    • @Cure_Hana
      @Cure_Hana 2 роки тому +10

      Not always. I seriously doubt that woman who hacked her own arm off would want anything to do with him afterwards (I know that was technically Hoffman, but still).

    • @somecanadiangirl1
      @somecanadiangirl1 2 роки тому +32

      "Congratulations on surviving, take an application form on your way out"

    • @handev2604
      @handev2604 2 роки тому +1

      Fun fact: the “Revenge” Kill Count is Dead Meat’s 300th Kill Count video.

    • @boogerbrains5349
      @boogerbrains5349 2 роки тому +6

      He better have good employee benefits

  • @TreJohnson03
    @TreJohnson03 2 роки тому +82

    Any movie with Chris Rock's voice, I just can't take the dialog seriously.

    • @BobbySacamano
      @BobbySacamano 2 роки тому +6

      I actually have the same problem, though I think in time it could change. I felt the same way about Bob Odenkirk, for example.
      It's tricky because Rock has such a distinct, unique voice, and for the first 30 years of my life he was just Chris Rock, the hilarious comedian. I still haven't seen this movie (don't know I will), but seeing him in _Fargo_ probably would help.

    • @TreJohnson03
      @TreJohnson03 2 роки тому +9

      @@BobbySacamano I get that. But especially since Chris Rock did his own comedic improvisons, everytime I hear him talk I feel like it's just another comedic line, and I'm always waiting for the punch line.

    • @BobbySacamano
      @BobbySacamano 2 роки тому +2

      @@TreJohnson03 yeah you're totally right. I actually didn't realize that, so it'd be so easy to just revert to seeing good ol' Chris Rock.

    • @gengarcrobat1576
      @gengarcrobat1576 2 роки тому +5

      @@BobbySacamano Yea his voice is so distinct that I'll always think of Marty from Madagascar. Since when is a goofy zebra a cop?

    • @sanic007
      @sanic007 2 роки тому +2

      @@TreJohnson03 I wouldn't even call his lines comedic, just plain bad.

  • @constellations8572
    @constellations8572 2 роки тому +355

    Dang, Chris Rock slaps in this movie.

  • @darkfate666
    @darkfate666 2 роки тому +248

    The most common theme throughout your Kill Counts, aside from the deaths, is the intrusion from the MPAA (now MPA). I would love to see a podcast with you and friends talking about the MPAA and the effect it has had on horror movies. Also, consider what would happen if movie theaters decided not to honor the rating system and just show movies regardless of rating. It could make a good discussion.

    • @bacobjeatty2777
      @bacobjeatty2777 10 місяців тому +3

      Terrifier 2 released unrated in theaters all over the USA and made 15 million so I would'nt be suprised if that becomes a standard

  • @viljarchristiansen190
    @viljarchristiansen190 2 роки тому +344

    We need a Hostel kill count. I’ve been waiting far too long to see an Eli Roth kill count...

  • @postachonomas7257
    @postachonomas7257 2 роки тому +338

    i love that the movie itself doesn't play the identity of william as the real twist, like, instead the music starts playing when will explains why he did it and that zeke's father was the main reason of how the corruption started in the police station.

    • @j-zhirngaming9550
      @j-zhirngaming9550 2 роки тому +7

      When I watched it i didn't know William was jigsaw i got a bit surprised

    • @snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
      @snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 2 роки тому +8

      @@j-zhirngaming9550 Seriously? It was pretty obvious lol

    • @Sam-xd8fy
      @Sam-xd8fy 2 роки тому +15

      @@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 Idk I'm never really thinking about what the ending is going to be when watching a movie so I never predict what's going to happen.

    • @snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
      @snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 2 роки тому +10

      @@Sam-xd8fy Fair enough it's just that by this point the whole plot twist gimmick has gotten so lazy

    • @j-zhirngaming9550
      @j-zhirngaming9550 2 роки тому

      @@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 i guess I'm dumb

  • @baldnboujee
    @baldnboujee Рік тому +5

    This movie was so dumb but I sat through it

  • @13JackStorm
    @13JackStorm 2 роки тому +161

    As daft as that "finger trap" before the numbers was, editing was fantastic.

  • @XeresKyle
    @XeresKyle 2 роки тому +938

    *The final trap Chris Rock gets trapped in is being tied to a chair while Will Smith slowly walks up to him and then wallops the shit out of him with a huge SMACK!*

    • @GoQuackDuck
      @GoQuackDuck 2 роки тому +34

      i rememberd who chris rock was and was just like yeah im gonna watch this video again

    • @federicoramirez2466
      @federicoramirez2466 2 роки тому +26

      I was looking for this comment lol

    • @WISHUTRY2KILLME
      @WISHUTRY2KILLME 2 роки тому +15

      finally the smack never gets old 😂

    • @St.Ivory_
      @St.Ivory_ 2 роки тому +8

      It was a GI JAANNEE joke, m’Kay?

    • @bradly2056
      @bradly2056 2 роки тому +10

      *people who overuse these shouldn’t be allowed to comment*

  • @russellsaface3236
    @russellsaface3236 2 роки тому +9

    did he get slapped here tho ?

  • @ZakTheGuy
    @ZakTheGuy 2 роки тому +351

    It was immediately obvious Schenk was behind everything when he tells Zeke that Zeke's dad is "the reason for all of this; he's why I wanna do this in the first place"

  • @fidelgarcia2224
    @fidelgarcia2224 2 роки тому +296

    Honestly this didn't seem like a bad movie to me. It was good in its own way. Hopefully there's an unrated version released some time with all those scenes put back in or something like that

    • @_mariri
      @_mariri 2 роки тому +11

      personally in my opinion if it were not part of the saw franchise (and didn't follow the concept entirely) i think it would have been a good standalone. might just be me though

    • @Dukesparrow1999
      @Dukesparrow1999 2 роки тому +8

      @@_mariri that is if it was simply titled Spiral and minus the "Live or die" quote then yeah it most certainly in my eyes would've been a good indie film

    • @Chicanochars
      @Chicanochars 2 роки тому +1

      Same, I went in knowing that most saw fans hated it, but I didn't mind it that much. Really my only complaint is Chris Rocks comedic attempts. They clash with the movies style

    • @Boobiejonshorts
      @Boobiejonshorts 2 роки тому

      THANK YOU. I really enjoyed this movie, watched it for the third time yesterday.

  • @FezTheMoose
    @FezTheMoose 2 роки тому +122

    Out of all the "to the numbers" gags, this is one of the best. It looks like its taken out off the saw franchise

  • @theninjapenguin5160
    @theninjapenguin5160 2 роки тому +7

    Dear person watching this video in 2022,
    You know why you’re here…

  • @Neo-iz2fx
    @Neo-iz2fx 2 роки тому +140

    Whenever Chris Rock speaks i cant unhear Marty from madagascar which makes this movie so much funnier to me

  • @garconlamest4666
    @garconlamest4666 2 роки тому +59

    Samuel L Jackson held all the humor of this movie on his back. Not really that surprised about that though

  • @VallyBite
    @VallyBite 2 роки тому +63

    Good kills but can't take the movie that seriously when the protagonist is the human embodiment of a zebra

    • @prodbymxv
      @prodbymxv 2 роки тому

      I know exactly which character you mean🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @newfacepaula
      @newfacepaula 2 роки тому

      and one of the characters is Nick Fury the Ultimate/Movie version.

  • @thomasraines1396
    @thomasraines1396 2 роки тому +82

    The entire plot of the second SAW revolved a corrupt cop trying to save his son from Jigsaw who had him trapped in a house with people who went to jail after he set them up with planted evidence.

  • @scottpilgrimdude24
    @scottpilgrimdude24 2 роки тому +101

    "Modern Kill Counts of the Saw movies would probably be like 40 minutes each." :D
    "Let's not do that though, alright?" :(

  • @ClassifiedRanTom
    @ClassifiedRanTom 2 роки тому +117

    “Modern Saw Kill Counts would be about 40 minutes. Let’s not do that though, alright?”
    Leaving this here for a few years when we inevitably get a Saw Recount.

    • @martth3great89
      @martth3great89 2 роки тому +2

      We prob won’t get a saw recount

    • @NokoFace
      @NokoFace 2 роки тому

      Why would we get a Saw recount? Those videos still hold up fairly well today, unlike Friday the 13th. And also unlike Friday the 13th the Saw counts didn't start the channel so they aren't as special.

  • @frns_lmao
    @frns_lmao 2 роки тому +5

    Jada, love you G.I Jane 2 can't way to see it.

  • @rickbooth3071
    @rickbooth3071 2 роки тому +94

    god i missed james breaking down the behind the scenes of every kill. really makes you appreciate the work and effort put into these movies, and the work james puts looking up all this shit lol

  • @markalexander3659
    @markalexander3659 2 роки тому +260

    "they don't wanna consider themselves a censorship board" - lmao, what? That is LITERALLY 100% of what they are! They do nothing BUT censor movies. I don't even understand why they are needed. If a movie is rated as only for adults, surely any amount of gore is fine.

    • @NinjaMatt2201
      @NinjaMatt2201 2 роки тому +37

      The MPAA like the power and control of being a censorship board, but for legal reasons, they have to pretend they aren't a censorship board. Which they do by being bad at their jobs on purpose. Not very convincing, but you know, all you have to do is bribe the right people.

    • @NinjaMatt2201
      @NinjaMatt2201 2 роки тому +23

      Las Vegas does something similar. For gambling to remain legal, they have to convince law makers that casino games are skill based and not just luck with the odds stack against the player. One hand bribes law makers to pretend they believe the lie, while the other hand kicks anyone out of the casino that uses legal skill based techniques like card counting.

    • @NinjaMatt2201
      @NinjaMatt2201 2 роки тому +2

      Ironic, given the story in the movie.

    • @tonypeppermint5329
      @tonypeppermint5329 2 роки тому +1

      Ironic.

    • @IoEstasCedonta
      @IoEstasCedonta 2 роки тому +6

      The catch, though, is that an R rating isn't the highest one. NC-17 is a de facto ban, except for arthouse films, but technically it's just a warning.

  • @valentinethelover
    @valentinethelover 2 роки тому +202

    I love how James reviews horror movies even IF he doesn’t like them or if they’re boring, he respects others opinions on the movie, talks about how the crew put so much time into it, goes into the Behind The Scenes of the movie he’s talking about, and he counts the kills for us as well, James is probably the nicest, funniest, and the best horror reviewer on UA-cam.
    I personally do not like this movie, the kills are boring compared to the original Saw movies, and the deaths are far apart, I like Saw 3D, if we’re talking about kills, if we’re talking about favorite movie in general I’d say Saw 2.

    • @travisc7722
      @travisc7722 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah it makes me appreciate the work put into the movies even if I'm not a fan of them

    • @tvdvd8661
      @tvdvd8661 Рік тому +2

      It's how he makes his money.
      Even if he didn't like a movie, others would and if it's popular enough he would be leaving money on the table by not making a video

    • @shawndashno6022
      @shawndashno6022 11 місяців тому

      Truth! Though my favorites are 1 and 7 (3D) Saw II is a rare sequel, in that it is arguably better than the 1st. (Arguably! 😂) It's definitely just as good.

    • @enerioffutt1881
      @enerioffutt1881 8 місяців тому

      @@tvdvd8661 Although you can tell by his voice when he truly hates a movie.

  • @BxJct0
    @BxJct0 2 роки тому +6

    just realized chris rock is in this 😭😭

  • @GigaChad-tr4zj
    @GigaChad-tr4zj 2 роки тому +188

    I never was a fan of horror movies but after watching dead meat for the past 3-4 years I became such a raging fan. James changed my whole point of view on movies

  • @freddy7314
    @freddy7314 2 роки тому +232

    I actually loved Spiral. While the ending wasn’t particularly the best, the kills/traps were actually some of my favorites!

    • @xxx0ox0
      @xxx0ox0 2 роки тому +21

      agreed, i just like to see at least one or two people survive otherwise it just feels like straight murder

    • @ButterscotchMcBean1995
      @ButterscotchMcBean1995 2 роки тому

      Cool.

    • @CleenisNOThere
      @CleenisNOThere 2 роки тому

      @@ButterscotchMcBean1995 ok

    • @burgerbonkerqueenmsp9761
      @burgerbonkerqueenmsp9761 2 роки тому +1

      @@xxx0ox0 I AGREE, wouldve been cool if the wax girl survived or maybe the glass dude

    • @Master-Ganja
      @Master-Ganja 2 роки тому

      the twist wasnt too bad but chris rock couldve shut up with the non funny comedy Hell Samuel L Jackson in this was Epic so honestly i give it a 6.5 out of 10

  • @lukewarmstanhouston9957
    @lukewarmstanhouston9957 2 роки тому +100

    I like the idea of a Saw spin-off series, but I'd prefer a series about an actual Cult Of Jigsaw. I can definitely see some people following Jigsaw's ideology if Saw were real life. But I hope Spiral continues. The Spiral movie was a let down for me, but it wasn't horrible and I like seeing fresh life being shot into my favorite franchise.

    • @somethingclever8916
      @somethingclever8916 2 роки тому

      Not a great movie but i want to see them sequel.

    • @juniorlks1
      @juniorlks1 2 роки тому +8

      During the original movies we basically saw the beginnings of such cult. Dr. Gordon would be perfect to be the current "leader" and keep spreading Jigsaw's word.

    • @Randomperson-zt3il
      @Randomperson-zt3il 2 роки тому +1

      @@juniorlks1 it’ll be good if done right and can link up with the original series. If done bad then oh god it’ll be horrible

    • @monkpool
      @monkpool 2 роки тому +1

      And the police investigate the dark web to find them

    • @RLucas3000
      @RLucas3000 2 роки тому

      Jigsaw vs Spiral

  • @5H4N3D
    @5H4N3D Рік тому +100

    So I guess it wasn’t the first time chris rock was smacked by a will, huh?

    • @idrk3707
      @idrk3707 Рік тому +5

      booooooooooo

    • @pluckyscuds
      @pluckyscuds Рік тому +3

      @@idrk3707 i said the exact same thing

  • @gabrielvanbockstaele1229
    @gabrielvanbockstaele1229 2 роки тому +34

    Funny how this is in my recommendations after Chris Rock got slapped by Will Smith

  • @toribrewer2112
    @toribrewer2112 2 роки тому +240

    Hey James! I’ve been a big fan for awhile just wanted to tell you how much I love your channel as well as the podcast. You and Chelsea are killing it (no pun intended lol) we all appreciate you so much!

  • @StayFrosty81
    @StayFrosty81 2 роки тому +86

    I couldn’t get into this one. Chris Rock trying so hard to play a serious detective role and no matter how hard he tried(He tried very very hard) I couldn’t take him seriously.

    • @SpideyfanX
      @SpideyfanX 2 роки тому +6

      It was basicslly like Marty from Madagascar.

    • @Shaz-Daz
      @Shaz-Daz 2 роки тому +6

      You are 100% right!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mr Rock went full cringe

    • @AnxiousCHKNLeg
      @AnxiousCHKNLeg 2 роки тому +5

      That's how I felt with Adam Sandler and Uncut Gems. I just couldn't take him seriously with all the comedy he has under his belt.

    • @somethingclever8916
      @somethingclever8916 2 роки тому

      Its been a while since I've seen a CR movie but yeah him going from comedy to drama is going to be a transition

    • @jimmyb5025
      @jimmyb5025 2 роки тому +2

      @Steele D Then why defend him?

  • @isaaczea6950
    @isaaczea6950 2 роки тому +14

    Was Will Smith here to slap Chris rock but got scared of Sam Jackson? lol

  • @eawhaaa
    @eawhaaa 2 роки тому +66

    I can't express how happy it made me to have you mention Chris Ramsey's involvement in this film. I watched a few of his own videos about the experience and it seemed like he and Darren really hit it off!

  • @marianne5055
    @marianne5055 2 роки тому +150

    It wasn’t the worst movie ever, and I actually quite liked the traps. But Chris Rock was easily the worst part for me. I didn’t find the comedic bits very funny and he’s just not a good dramatic actor. Not saying the film would have been perfect with someone else in the role but I think I would have enjoyed it a lot more.

    • @tohkritxhaln2703
      @tohkritxhaln2703 2 роки тому +7

      Chris Rock is cringe. He thinks he’s so funny and important, so his prideful, sneering bullshit try-too-hard ruins every joke. I expect him to demand applause after every line. Movie would have been way better with just about anyone else.

    • @dreamw864
      @dreamw864 2 роки тому +3

      I agree Chris Rock is an actor with limited range he can only to light hearted and comedic movies I have never seen him do a completely serious role even in New Jack city his character looking was eccentric and comedic relief or attempted to be. I'm actually sad they allowed him in the movie since the whole plot is good and such I think a different person would be better idk who just someone else

    • @XBeastModeXEPIC
      @XBeastModeXEPIC 2 роки тому

      L

    • @brunoaraujo2397
      @brunoaraujo2397 2 роки тому +9

      Chris Rock actually is not a bad actor, but he ALWAYS get too carried away because of his comedic career. People said he was pretty good in Fargo S04

    • @prettyevil6662000
      @prettyevil6662000 2 роки тому +5

      Rock's comedy is so thoroughly outdated boomer crap. "Woman bad" was almost the only joke he had the whole time. Didn't matter what the joke started to be about, it always circled back to woman bad. And it made no sense since it seemed no woman had ever wronged him - except for divorcing which is not 'wronging', it's trying to move on from something that's not working.

  • @levischorpioen
    @levischorpioen 2 роки тому +354

    I’ll say this about Spiral: It’s the perfect gateway Saw film. A new generation will be introduced to Saw and this film basically tells them: “Okay, this is the gist of what you’ll be getting yourself into should you wish to explore this franchise further. Now go back and watch the ones that are actually good.”

    • @transienthorror
      @transienthorror 2 роки тому +11

      I hope this is the case! Reinvigorating interest in the originals would be awesome!

    • @jeremyscungio16
      @jeremyscungio16 2 роки тому +18

      Honestly I showed a girl who never really watched horror movies the first saw and she actually liked them and went to watch a few more

    • @levischorpioen
      @levischorpioen 2 роки тому +17

      @@jeremyscungio16 That first film is absolutely timeless.

    • @snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
      @snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 2 роки тому +8

      It's perfect if you want to turn people away from the franchise

    • @jeremyscungio16
      @jeremyscungio16 2 роки тому

      @@levischorpioen she even referenced it in class I was proud

  • @neonbrine
    @neonbrine 2 роки тому +6

    I like that UA-cam recommended me this after 5 months and I wonder why it had to be Chris Rock hmm need to ask will on this

  • @bellystraw
    @bellystraw 2 роки тому +135

    I feel like spiral could be a good starting point. If a sequel comes along it'll be interesting to see how they increase the
    stakes/hype

  • @kimberlyterasaki4843
    @kimberlyterasaki4843 2 роки тому +122

    Not defending the corrupt cops, but I feel like the “sever your spinal cord or you’ll get a face of hot wax” trap should have been given to a cop who actually killed people, instead of just covering it up.

    • @simplygarbage9951
      @simplygarbage9951 2 роки тому +38

      I suppose it's meant to be symbolic like the others. "Have a backbone" and stand up to the corruption.

    • @Siennarchist
      @Siennarchist 2 роки тому +24

      @@simplygarbage9951 and the idea of the 'cover it up' cop is the one who gets literally covered up by tar

    • @simplygarbage9951
      @simplygarbage9951 2 роки тому +6

      @@Siennarchist oooooh, that's good

    • @weneedaladder8384
      @weneedaladder8384 2 роки тому +17

      Cover it up cops are the reason that murderer cops go free. They're literally not doing their only job: stopping bad guys.

    • @Sebastian424
      @Sebastian424 2 роки тому +8

      I think the analogy they were going for was that she was "spineless" in just letting all the corruption happen while looking the other way.
      But agreed, it's a bit excessive compared to some of the other characters' traps.

  • @ronyorobio7096
    @ronyorobio7096 2 роки тому +108

    "Rest in peace, you sanctimonious bastard" I just love how James comically critizises questionable conducts.

  • @maddux8556
    @maddux8556 2 роки тому +13

    Who here after Chris rock got rocked