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I never care for the "Saw films" or Jigsaw & his traps sure they were brutal even in nightmares so i'll sit this out out while you people get to the kills! happy nightmares!
Not sure if this is true or not, but the reason why it's set in Mexico was a nod to the Fans, as a majority of them are Latin/Hispanic, and it showed in the opening weekend for this one too.
@@OddOneOut665DEATH SET LIST KILL COUNT: SAW X (2023) 17:14 #1.VALENTINA 21:59 #2.MATEO 24:48 #3.GABRIELA 28:11 #4.PARKER SEARS 29:42 IN THE END THE NUMBERS RESULTS RED WOMEN:2️⃣ BLUE MAN:2️⃣ TOTAL:4️⃣ SCORE BOARD BREAKDOWN (2004 - 2023) 🏆🏅🥉1.SAW I (2004) 6️⃣ 🏆🏅🥈2.SAW II (2005) 9️⃣ 🏆🏅🥈3.SAW III (2006) 9️⃣ 🏆🏅🥇4.SAW IV (2007) 🔟 🏆🏅🥉5.SAW V (2008) 6️⃣ 🏆🏅🥇6.SAW VI (2009) 1️⃣3️⃣ 🏆🏅🥇7.SAW VII (3D) (2010) 2️⃣7️⃣ 🏆🏅🥇8.SAW VIII: JIGSAW (2017) 1️⃣6️⃣ 🏆🏅🥈9.SPIRAL: THE BOOK THE SAW (2021) 8️⃣ 🏆🏅🥉10.SAW X (2023) 4️⃣ RANTIME:1️⃣1️⃣8️⃣ MINUTES = 4️⃣ KILLS ONE KILL EVERY:2️⃣9️⃣.5️⃣ MINUTES
I actually love how they never attempt to de age any actors. They're just like "That isn't what you're here for and we need our prosthetic's budget for gore so just go with it"
Honestly Tobin's extra years just makes him seem like a more believable cancer patient. Aging and cancer are suprisingly similar cellular issues, after all.
I love the idea of John Kramer only studying the Spanish to say, "To Hell", without understanding what the taxi driver was asking. Like, what if the taxi driver had said, "How are you?"
Why I feel like she going be the one Main antagonist of Saw prequel,I mean John is death and there is two students prehaps three I guess,But I believe Hoffman going come back,I don't know how but let hope cause We going see new trap
Having Diego survive was honestly a genius move, since it subverts most people’s assumptions that unless somebody has plot armor or is set against another person where one of them is guaranteed to live, then that victim is gonna die.
Plus it was stil learly in John's trappy killing phase. By Saw III and john's death, surviving was pretty much impossible. I think the Hoffmanator pretty much made it impossible lmao
@@honestmovietalkHoffman’s traps weren’t inescapable like Amanda. But they also didn’t completely follow John’s philosophy. Hoffman’s traps were more like…your life was in someone else’s hands, or only one person is able to escape but one is bound to die.
A deleted scene shows that John showed them footage of Diego's trap to prove to everyone that the traps were real and that they were beatable, and confirms that he survived and is in hospital.
It could've even been an interesting twist if Diego was among the Jigsaw survivors attending the meeting orchestrated by the charlatan who lied about his experiences with Jigsaw to sell books
@@ThePilleroflightning Hoffman also rigged at least one trap, notably the one he made to punish his sisters killer that was the reason John discovered him
Who else does this (when I want to watch a new horror movie like saw x but forgot what happened in the others, I would just watch the kill counts because it's faster than re-watching all the movies and is just as entertaining 😂
@@kylemajerczyk8160I think that might’ve been him being on the other side of the fence at that point. Thinking that there was no point in convincing other people to keep living their life to his standard because the whole point was John as dying and hated seeing people, in his eyes, taking life for granted. Now he thinks he’s going to live so there’s no point, because now he can live for himself. He can appreciate the extra time he’s got. Although given that the treatment it was fake and he found out, that probably tripled his determination to continue being the jigsaw killer.
I had the devastating realization that Amanda swapping Gabriella and Matteo's turns in an attempt to help Gabriella, ultimately caused her to die. If Gabriella went second as originally planned, Amanda would have been able to take her to the hospital while John was setting up Matteo's trap rather than her ending up in the middle of the chaos at the end with Cecilia and Parker.
This is true. But if that happened, Amanda would not have been able to get John and the little boy out of the blood-boarding trap if things went the same way without her being there.
@@NocturnewashereJohn Escaped himself if I remember completely. The shackles only needed some knob twists to get free. He could only escape once the bloodboarding stopped cause that meant that the other trap had activated.
I've read this over a few times, I don't really understand, how would it be any different if they swapped? wouldn't she have just died to the trap that killed Matteo:?
@@pedromatias7608 I want all three, while Hoffman was the villain we didn’t get to see the interactions between jigsaw and his acolytes that much and that’s what I want them to explore. Their interpretations of jigsaws already flawed logic and how jigsaw tried to remedy that.
The Saw Franchise has a lot of lore, and seeing this movie be a thing between the first and second is incredibly interesting, hope we get another with more depth in Amanda.
I enjoy that we got to see more of Amanda’s humanity and sympathy towards Gabriella because she understood Gabby was a victim of abuse like Amanda was. It also helps us understand more why Amanda was so conflicted about everything John put her through and seeing how Cecilia broke the rules makes her behavior and mental state in SAW 3 more understandable.
@@f1reasp3ct5 DEATH SET LIST KILL COUNT: SAW X (2023) 17:14 #1.VALENTINA 21:59 #2.MATEO 24:48 #3.GABRIELA 28:11 #4.PARKER SEARS 29:42 IN THE END THE NUMBERS RESULTS RED WOMEN:2️⃣ BLUE MAN:2️⃣ TOTAL:4️⃣ SCORE BOARD BREAKDOWN (2004 - 2023) 🏆🏅🥉1.SAW I (2004) 6️⃣ 🏆🏅🥈2.SAW II (2005) 9️⃣ 🏆🏅🥈3.SAW III (2006) 9️⃣ 🏆🏅🥇4.SAW IV (2007) 🔟 🏆🏅🥉5.SAW V (2008) 6️⃣ 🏆🏅🥇6.SAW VI (2009) 1️⃣3️⃣ 🏆🏅🥇7.SAW VII (3D) (2010) 2️⃣7️⃣ 🏆🏅🥇8.SAW VIII: JIGSAW (2017) 1️⃣6️⃣ 🏆🏅🥈9.SPIRAL: THE BOOK THE SAW (2021) 8️⃣ 🏆🏅🥉10.SAW X (2023) 4️⃣ RANTIME:1️⃣1️⃣8️⃣ MINUTES = 4️⃣ KILLS ONE KILL EVERY:2️⃣9️⃣.5️⃣ MINUTES
Fun Fact: Mateo’s trap was actually recycled from Saw II! Addison was originally going to be put in a waffle iron-like trap where she’d have to press her face against it to reach a key or an antidote. However, they replaced it with the Razor Box. I love seeing ideas that were originally scrapped get repurposed into stuff that’s used later.
One of the unsung heroes of this film is the Title Card. It’s the first time in the series where this movie didn’t open with a trap and kill, instead just focusing on John and his cancer diagnosis. It does an INCREDIBLE job at setting the tone for this film.
The whole emotional opening and touching scenes with Jon getting his hopes up and bonding with the people who were at the clinic was such a double edged sword since i knew the general plot of the film and that they were scammers. I was getting so frustrated knowing they were being so good at being disingenuous.
I felt so bad for Gabriella. She WON her trap fair and square and, by the rules, she should’ve been allowed to live but didn’t because SOMEONE wanted more money!
Gabriella should have broken her wrist and freed it first, letting her fall free onto the ground, invalidating the rest of the trap unless Kramer installed vertical panning to the gun, if not, she could have freely broken her ankle without fear of further exposure.
@@drthrayjaxymaxy8017I was also blown away she went for her ankle first. Not even because she would of dropped but because breaking your ankle with hammer has to hurt a hell of a lot more than your wrist 😂😂
@@XJIcequeen That might've hurt her pretty badly. She was a small woman and it's possible that a fall from that height could've been fatal or at least serious. A gymnast or a paratrooper might know how to land without getting seriously hurt but the average person is unlikely to know how.
The acting ensemble was absolutely incredible in this film. I found Valentina particularly strong, you could feel that gigli saw through her acting and the visual effects.
Agreed, but that gigli saw trap was designed terribly. She cut off her leg, sucked out all the marrow goo, but still died because the machine was so dam slow
@@σεα-ψ9εnah she wasted like 30-60 seconds un the beginning specifically after Kramer said don't hesitate. I mostly blame Cecilia shitty ass coaching tho. I think that was the point tho. This movie showed John being a good role model for his philosphy while Cecilia literally got every answer wrong on the test.
@@Spectreffexexactly💯💯 you get it. Im surprised by how much people are saying theres was unfair when in reality they repeated to listen carefully and to not waste time which is what they both did. I do like that they gave Gabrielle an easier punishment though despite what happened
"To win your game, you have 3 minutes to solve string theory with a textbook from 1960 and a buzz saw slowly cutting the webbing between your fingers and toes. If you can't manage that, then clearly you don't have enough will to live."
@@MegaAwesome1121 Been a while since I've seen the Saw series, but what about Adam in the first one? I really don't see how he was supposed to get that bathtub key. (unless it was explained in another movie)
I believe Amanda's hair here is intended to be a transitional haircut to her nerve gas house hair, given it was a little bit longer and still as choppily cut
I also really liked that this movie shows why Amanda is so jaded in 2 and especially 3. Gabriella's death shook her faith in John's lessons having a positive impact on others, and it's clear she saw her pre-Jigsaw self in Gabriella as well
i think the idea of not using de-aging tech on tobin bell was such an awesome move considering how sick his character really was. just makes u feel and root for his character kinda.
@@droplemmyTbf they have a pretty low success rate and the ones that Amanda makes are literally impossible to win. It's not everyday someone makes it, especially because people who you thought had plot armor, in fact....didn't.
I didn’t know I could cry happy tears from a saw kill count. You guys are so kind to have someone from the make a wish foundation on one of your kill counts. It also shows how loved you are in the horror community. I really love how you stand my your moto “be good people” because you are good people. Thank you.
I got to watch this movie in theaters and the only other person in my row was this little old lady that was all by herself. The looks of horror we shared with each other were ✨ hilarious✨
My bestie and I went to see this and we were laughing during Valentina's trap because she threw up (I have chronic nausea so I ALWAYS have puke bags) and as soon as she was done she asked me what to do with the bag. Throw it away of course! Did you expect to keep it??
tobin bell's performance on comedic bits like "I help people overcome inner... problems" and "Detective, i need you to help me locate some people in need of our....... services" is some of the funniest shit i've ever seen
This movie offered a rare glimpse into the true mind of John Kramer, and really brought humanity to him for, at least in my opinion, the first time. Every actor did a fantastic job, and every kill was amazingly done, even if there weren't as many kills as I was expecting there to be, which may have actually been in the film's favor as it offered more time to bring the humanity and honesty to John and his story. Great video as always, James! Keep it up!
Right and proved why he technically lost it. He was betrayed and manipulated at his very lowest and thats even after what happened to his son and the other movie plots. It also shows why he has less sympathy for players later on becausethey are "soft" compred to these people in the game and their will to live. It explains why he also assumes they will all fail now because "its their nature andits doesnt change". Like with Cecelia or with Amanda, maybe after this she felt it wasnt fair for others to win the games because Gabriella still lost? Or it made her think no one deserves to survive more than Gabriella? I used to think Amanda's motivation was that she and Hoffman were jealous of eachother being able to "beat/win" the game. Ngl, this franchise is so complex and would be a great horror convo over wine lol 😅
It just doesn’t make sense to me,just few weeks ago he didn’t have problem with murdering innocent child and her mother,writing is all over the place with his character
@@yeeeaaahmayneee3808 who was that? You mean the female doctor and her daughter? The mom was murdered by Amanda and the daughter was saved (but her father died as well though.). Still, got a point
Actually cancer treatment can cause someone to age physically, so Kramer looking older in this movie made him look like someone fighting cancer. My step-uncle is a cancer survivor and he looked like he's older than he actually is because of the treatment.
Heck the fact he looked slightly older meaning Bobby would make more sense than his actor trying to look younger by wearing backwards cap since he would have gone through cancer treatment at the time
I think the video was more comparing this movie to the third and fourth where John looks younger in the timeline (even thought he’s still fighting cancer etc)
I mean, maybe, but the issue isn't with how old he looks in general but how old he looks in relation to the previous films. His cancer was not *worse* at the time of diagnosis than when he was literally dying on an operating table in some filthy warehouse.
Anyone who believes John isn’t a murderer doesn’t understand the point behind the series. It actively portrays John as a hypocritical murderer who is smart enough to manipulate people like Amanda, someone who took the lesson to heart, to join in his murdering ways while using his way with words to dilute and throw away the responsibility of his killings
@@KawaiiFemBoi Yes, of course he did. Kidnapping someone and putting them in a trap that is designed to kill you is killing someone. It's not even a moral dilemma
The leg cutting is the first time a saw trap has made me look away. There’s been plenty of others where I’ve been like ‘eeeeww’ but I was actually covering my eyes this time
In my opinion, Mateo carving out parts of his head was worse. Cutting the brain itself wouldn't feel painful since, for some reason, our most important organ doesn't have any ability to do so. However, there's a bunch of other things in the way that he'd need to remove to get to it.
It's crazy to me that Tobin Bell did all this as an 80 year old man. It's easily his best performance to date. He's also really good in The Cello, a new movie, you all should definitely check it out.
Idk i feel that kinda downplays his performance in the original run.. He was always one of the best parts of every movie.. But I deffo agree this movie showcases him more by making him the lead character.. And Tobin deserves more movies to shine
I really liked how they humanized John with this one. The poor guy was hoping for a cure only to get scammed out of 250k. As someone who also has a disease that could easily take me out if I'm not careful, I can really sympathize with him. Those assholes certainly got what was coming to them. Not so much with the other players from the rest of the series.
The people organizing the scam sure, but a lot of the others still didn't really deserve to get jigsaw'd especially if you consider that Cecilia kinda got off easy (unless she dies at the start of the next film)
I love how they delve deeper into johns motives for doing this and the morality behind it also showing hes not completely evil as seen when he wants the young girl taken to the hospital and the wholesome interactions with the young boy
As someone who had extremely low expectations I was pleasantly surprised at how good this film was, and in my opinion the best since Saw III. I love how it feels like an early 2000s saw film but it's one of the most unique and different with its approach.
The only negative I'd give is that it's pretty much solidified the fact that this series cannot survive without Tobin Bell. Once he's not able to play Jigsaw anymore, this franchise is dead.
Valentina's trap had me gaping in amazement the first time around, then cringing upon rewatch when I felt sympathy for the fact she almost beat it. Seeing her severed head and the rest of her body fall was absolutely nuts. Easily one of the best traps in the series, even if its feasibility in real life is extremely dubious.
@@noahmaldonado5461 Dubious as in questionable. I had doubts when I saw how loosely she applied the tourniquet, but it was still so primal and incredible to watch. Once I saw Mateo's trap in action, I knew they went full Hollywood.
Usually I like 99% hate ads but with Kill counts current way of connecting it with the episode and Zoran being his weird self I actually really enjoy them and actually watch them so thank you James and the crew
Personally I kind of hate it. Not the end result (clearly good work by the crew and writers), but it bothers me that creators have to expend so much creativity to do advertisers jobs for them on top of their own work. There's a reason this kind of sponsored content got phased out in TV and movies decades ago and just constantly reminds me of how little respect online creators get still.
11:50 I love the editing of this shot. It’s the classic jumpy saw editing style but used for something completely different. It still conveys the same shock and confusion but for an emotional moment instead of a scary one. It’s so impressive how they balance the kind of campy and ridiculous plot with genuinely compelling emotional moments
Fun fact about Renata Vaca, the actress that plays Gabriela: She used to be a member of mexican youtube sketch channel "QuePario!", which has more than a millions subs. Seeing her in a movie like this after spending most of my childhood watching her in these funny sketches left me in awe.
It's always great to see Saw back on the kill count as well as seeing Tobin Bell back, I read recently that Tobin Bell didn't have a great time doing Saw 1, he mentioned a lot about his experience about how he had to lay on a floor a lot and one saddest thing he said was he had to eat alone because nobody wanted to eat with him
The Amanda Young acting is truly amazing. We got to give Shawnee Smith some major props on showing the many sides of Amanda Young from the original movies. From her sympathy to a drug addict, to her trust in Jon Cramer for what he's done for her, to her spiral into madness with the death of a person she saw (hehe) a bit of herself in. Truly an exceptional character
Amanda's reaction to Gabriela's death is kinda funny because if you apply real life rules to the Radiation Trap Gabriela was dead as soon as she started getting skin symptoms, at that point your internal organs are all effectively dead
I love how this movie gives Johns character a bit more humanity. He didn’t want to have to murder an innocent child to live, he seems to truly want to only punish those who are wrongdoers.
Out of all the Saw movies. This is my favorite one, hands down. As a cancer survivor, I related so much with his character & the word "Hope" When it was given & taken.
Poor Valentina had the worst night. She was assxulted-almost rxped-that night, and just when she might have thought she was being saved, she was kidnapped, had to sever her own leg to save her life, only to fail and feel a few seconds of agony being decapitated. What an awful set of final hours 😢
Big props to James, Zoran, and the DeadMeat crew for doing that Make a Wish for Carswell (sorry if I spelled that wrong). Big hugs to you, Carswell! Family forever!
Fun fact: when cencilia mentioned that she knew john there actually was a deleted scene that shows cencilia looking up john kramer during there phone call but again like the saw 6 flashback it was deleted lol
I think that speaks heavily to his mindset; he genuinely believed that he wasn't killing people, and that everyone had a chance to live. Saw II explores that somewhat when Detective Matthews said "putting a gun to someone's head and forcing them to pull the trigger is still murder", but they never really explore that again before Jigsaw dies.
Imo this was easily the best Saw since the original. Tobin Bell gave his best performance yet and his chemistry with Shawnee is incredible. I went to the midnight premiere of this movie and my entire theater erupted into applause when Hoffman showed up at the end.
I love how the imagined trap is actually a great picturing of John's psyche. he doesn't picture his victims surviving but rather picturing what will happen when they lose.
I have rarely been as excited in a movie theatre as I was when Cecilia and Parker got trapped in the upstairs room and Hello Zepp started playing. Fuckin awesome plot twist with an even more awesome soundtrack!
16:33 i have no clue why but what Amanda says is just funny to me "you'll make it so long as you keep your head" when she is in a trap that is going to cut her head off
Valentina and Mateo deserved to live. She had already cut off her whole leg and he cut out a piece of his own brain, but the slow machinery was the reason why they didn’t live.
Welcome to the set Carswell! Good luck on your directing/writing/acting journey! I also got to say one thing I love about Saw is they never bother making the lighting look great or anything like that. They intentionally make everything look dirty and disgusting. It's how John sees himself and his cancer, it's how he views those he puts in the traps. The budget goes to what matters. The actors, and the gore!
I can’t imagine your feeling when make-a-wish reached out to you asking if they could have Carswell visit! You guys are awesome! Your kill counts are what got me here but your journey is what keeps me! Keep it up!
Dear James, Chelsea, and Zoran, Please keep the "Weird Kill Counts" going. There are so many horror and horror adjacent games and other media you could do! Plus I personally have loved the strike Era kill counts as being refreshing and cool!
20:32 it’s like Eric Matthews said in Saw 2: “Putting a gun to someone’s head and forcing them to pull the trigger is still murder.” Just because John didn’t personally kill them doesn’t mean he’s not a murderer. The people are dead because of the traps John put them in. Whether or not there were ways to survive the traps is irrelevant. John put them there, therefore he’s responsible for their deaths. Ergo, he’s a murderer.
The Eyeball trap gave me reverse beatrap vibes in 2004 and I am so here for it!! The atmosphere, the camera angles, the lighting, the music, Johns classic "I want to play a game", the speed shots, the intensity. I hope SAW XI keeps that trend going. Also, Valentina deserved to live! She literally got through her trap with ease! But it is a SAW movie so nothing is fair in the world of Jigsaw. Paulette Hernandez (Valentina) earns my SCREAM QUEEN award of 2023!
This is one of the best movies I've ever seen in the theater this year. I remember when me and my oldest brother went to see it, we saw a lady and what looked like her daughter walk into the theater and we were wondering if the mother knew what movie she brought her kid to. Once we got to the first trap of the movie, that being the eyeball trap, they left realizing that Saw X wasn't for kids.
@@Serenejsmooth isnt most of his victims also shitty ppl as well? not like his is picking that overworked retail teen whos trying to graduate college. hes picking the assholes gaining from others misfortune still a murderer but like could be worse
@@AngelWingsYT Yeah, except for those two dudes that had to fight over the girl. Like I know the girl ended up dying and the guys lived but the main game was them trying to kill each other when they didn't even do anything
I've been waiting for this episode after the SAG-AFTRA came to a resolution. Thank you for your solidarity James and the Dead Meat crew, and keep being the good people you all are
Can’t believe James forgot to mention that the actor who plays Parker is a previous killcount Vet. He played towers (the main villain) in Joe Lynch’s MayheM
12:04 fun fact, i guess: coincidentally, SAW and Duolingo did actually made a collab video promoting the film's release, and its apparently.... billy the puppet and duo riding a tricycle lol.
Currently healing up from Covid and James' impression of John Kramer saying, "Yeah, that's me" literally sent me into a coughing fit from laughing so hard.
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I never care for the "Saw films" or Jigsaw & his traps sure they were brutal even in nightmares so i'll sit this out out while you people get to the kills! happy nightmares!
Not sure if this is true or not, but the reason why it's set in Mexico was a nod to the Fans, as a majority of them are Latin/Hispanic, and it showed in the opening weekend for this one too.
Your jokes aren't crappy
@@OddOneOut665DEATH SET LIST KILL COUNT: SAW X (2023)
17:14 #1.VALENTINA
21:59 #2.MATEO
24:48 #3.GABRIELA
28:11 #4.PARKER SEARS
29:42 IN THE END
THE NUMBERS RESULTS
RED WOMEN:2️⃣
BLUE MAN:2️⃣
TOTAL:4️⃣
SCORE BOARD BREAKDOWN (2004 - 2023)
🏆🏅🥉1.SAW I (2004) 6️⃣
🏆🏅🥈2.SAW II (2005) 9️⃣
🏆🏅🥈3.SAW III (2006) 9️⃣
🏆🏅🥇4.SAW IV (2007) 🔟
🏆🏅🥉5.SAW V (2008) 6️⃣
🏆🏅🥇6.SAW VI (2009) 1️⃣3️⃣
🏆🏅🥇7.SAW VII (3D) (2010) 2️⃣7️⃣
🏆🏅🥇8.SAW VIII: JIGSAW (2017) 1️⃣6️⃣
🏆🏅🥈9.SPIRAL: THE BOOK THE SAW (2021) 8️⃣
🏆🏅🥉10.SAW X (2023) 4️⃣
RANTIME:1️⃣1️⃣8️⃣ MINUTES = 4️⃣ KILLS
ONE KILL EVERY:2️⃣9️⃣.5️⃣ MINUTES
Day two of asking for a saw x kill count. Thank you James
I actually love how they never attempt to de age any actors. They're just like "That isn't what you're here for and we need our prosthetic's budget for gore so just go with it"
Just give them a backwards cap
Works every time, 100% of the time. @@kyellverdonschot9922
Thank god De aging almost always looks weird.
Honestly Tobin's extra years just makes him seem like a more believable cancer patient. Aging and cancer are suprisingly similar cellular issues, after all.
@@kyellverdonschot9922 it shaves like 20 years off instantly!
Wait, Tobin Bell is 81?! Jesus, the fact he's still dedicated to this role is nothing short of spectacular, no one else could do Jigsaw better
You ever been to his UA-cam channel to hear him play guitar? It’s pretty cool.
What A Legend!
@@lucidmemory4146 he's basically the christopher lee of this generation, but christopher lee is still way cooler.
@@lowkeyobsessedngl fair, considering Lee is one of the all-time coolest, I’m sure Tobin Bell would surely agree.
I swear I read somewhere he was 90 somethng
I love the idea of John Kramer only studying the Spanish to say, "To Hell", without understanding what the taxi driver was asking. Like, what if the taxi driver had said, "How are you?"
@spiritsafe-ko4ee
Lmao. To be fair that does sound like hell
Diego: hi man how are you
John: to HELL....
Diego: what?
John: (kidnaps him)
I understood "inviernes" instead of inferno, would also make a great Saw movie.
Reminds me of that scene from deadpool 2
But I did take 8th grade spanish
@@henryjones2766 Donde esta la biblioteca? Which literally translates to, "I don't bargain, pumpkin fucker."
If the actor made you hate Cecilia, then the actor did an amazing job.
And she did!
Why I feel like she going be the one Main antagonist of Saw prequel,I mean John is death and there is two students prehaps three I guess,But I believe Hoffman going come back,I don't know how but let hope cause We going see new trap
Kudos to Synnove Lund for her performance.
I saw her in Ragnarok, amazing show and she plays an amazing villain!
Everyone knows this. That's how villains work
@@kotchapakmaneechote2062b
"Out of all the men to cheat, you picked John Kramer?" Hell yeah Hoffman
I call that epic bad luck
@@jadenlong1538 one of the best post credit scenes in a long time, we even got a glimpse of Adam and Zepp's bodies lying on the background
HOFFINATOR BACK AT IT AGAIN!!!
The only thing I would have wanted from this movie... more Hoffmann
@@Nightmare1z maybe in Saw XIi we get more of him
Having Diego survive was honestly a genius move, since it subverts most people’s assumptions that unless somebody has plot armor or is set against another person where one of them is guaranteed to live, then that victim is gonna die.
Plus it was stil learly in John's trappy killing phase. By Saw III and john's death, surviving was pretty much impossible. I think the Hoffmanator pretty much made it impossible lmao
@@honestmovietalkHoffman’s traps weren’t inescapable like Amanda. But they also didn’t completely follow John’s philosophy. Hoffman’s traps were more like…your life was in someone else’s hands, or only one person is able to escape but one is bound to die.
A deleted scene shows that John showed them footage of Diego's trap to prove to everyone that the traps were real and that they were beatable, and confirms that he survived and is in hospital.
It could've even been an interesting twist if Diego was among the Jigsaw survivors attending the meeting orchestrated by the charlatan who lied about his experiences with Jigsaw to sell books
@@ThePilleroflightning Hoffman also rigged at least one trap, notably the one he made to punish his sisters killer that was the reason John discovered him
Never knew how much joy hearing James say “aww pigged” again would bring me. Thank you, Dead Meat crew!
Cringe
@@balabanasireti”this guy’s having fun. Cringe” 🤓
Who else does this (when I want to watch a new horror movie like saw x but forgot what happened in the others, I would just watch the kill counts because it's faster than re-watching all the movies and is just as entertaining 😂
@@balabanasireti Boo Hoo 👶
slowass MF Jeff is my favorite gag, glad he said it here
I don’t know why,but seeing john throw away plans for his new trap was such a powerful moment for me
Saaaaame. You can feel how conflicted he is through the screen until he throws the paper away, and it’s so sad considering what comes next.
I remember sitting in the theater and going “oh..?”, thinking that if it would’ve been real, he would’ve stopped.
@@kylemajerczyk8160I think that might’ve been him being on the other side of the fence at that point. Thinking that there was no point in convincing other people to keep living their life to his standard because the whole point was John as dying and hated seeing people, in his eyes, taking life for granted.
Now he thinks he’s going to live so there’s no point, because now he can live for himself. He can appreciate the extra time he’s got.
Although given that the treatment it was fake and he found out, that probably tripled his determination to continue being the jigsaw killer.
I had the devastating realization that Amanda swapping Gabriella and Matteo's turns in an attempt to help Gabriella, ultimately caused her to die. If Gabriella went second as originally planned, Amanda would have been able to take her to the hospital while John was setting up Matteo's trap rather than her ending up in the middle of the chaos at the end with Cecilia and Parker.
This is true. But if that happened, Amanda would not have been able to get John and the little boy out of the blood-boarding trap if things went the same way without her being there.
@@NocturnewashereJohn Escaped himself if I remember completely. The shackles only needed some knob twists to get free. He could only escape once the bloodboarding stopped cause that meant that the other trap had activated.
I've read this over a few times, I don't really understand, how would it be any different if they swapped? wouldn't she have just died to the trap that killed Matteo:?
@@zeyf7810 They mean the order, not the traps themselves.
@@zeyf7810 no, they didn't swap traps, they only swapped turns
I’m so happy this movie was successful, I want to see more of Hoffman and Amanda’s dynamic that was hinted at in the original series.
I am so hoping Saw XI is Hoffman and Amanda AND John like I just want to see the dynamics of him and all his apprentices.
@@beautifulveinsBro Hoffman was the villain of Saw 4-7. That’s enough of him lol we want more John X Amanda. Hoffman could apear but not too much.
@@pedromatias7608no more hoffman my king
@@pedromatias7608 I want all three, while Hoffman was the villain we didn’t get to see the interactions between jigsaw and his acolytes that much and that’s what I want them to explore. Their interpretations of jigsaws already flawed logic and how jigsaw tried to remedy that.
Ok
The Saw Franchise has a lot of lore, and seeing this movie be a thing between the first and second is incredibly interesting, hope we get another with more depth in Amanda.
It’s between the first and second
@@car-diac-johnson Thank you.
Well, a Saw XI has just been confirmed, so MORE JIGSAW AND AMANDA FO SHO
My hope is that Saw XI is an interquel between II & III that focuses on Amanda's struggles.
Nice pfp 😳
" Saw VI, The Healthcare One. "
The fact that looked official had me on the floor for a second 💀
Lol
I enjoy that we got to see more of Amanda’s humanity and sympathy towards Gabriella because she understood Gabby was a victim of abuse like Amanda was. It also helps us understand more why Amanda was so conflicted about everything John put her through and seeing how Cecilia broke the rules makes her behavior and mental state in SAW 3 more understandable.
Yeah. I agree. Cecilia broke whatever humanity Amanda had left
@@XJIcequeenright it scary to see her snap
Nah. She just got mad bc she actually because she actually believe in John.
@Paulxl Huh?
I’m so happy for Carswell getting to cameo in a kill count. Can’t imagine how insane that must’ve felt
Loved Saw X and can't wait for the sequel they just announced! It's a good time to be a Jigsaw fan :)
Agreed. The humanizing of the jigsaw killer makes this one of my personal favorites.
@@f1reasp3ct5 DEATH SET LIST KILL COUNT: SAW X (2023)
17:14 #1.VALENTINA
21:59 #2.MATEO
24:48 #3.GABRIELA
28:11 #4.PARKER SEARS
29:42 IN THE END
THE NUMBERS RESULTS
RED WOMEN:2️⃣
BLUE MAN:2️⃣
TOTAL:4️⃣
SCORE BOARD BREAKDOWN (2004 - 2023)
🏆🏅🥉1.SAW I (2004) 6️⃣
🏆🏅🥈2.SAW II (2005) 9️⃣
🏆🏅🥈3.SAW III (2006) 9️⃣
🏆🏅🥇4.SAW IV (2007) 🔟
🏆🏅🥉5.SAW V (2008) 6️⃣
🏆🏅🥇6.SAW VI (2009) 1️⃣3️⃣
🏆🏅🥇7.SAW VII (3D) (2010) 2️⃣7️⃣
🏆🏅🥇8.SAW VIII: JIGSAW (2017) 1️⃣6️⃣
🏆🏅🥈9.SPIRAL: THE BOOK THE SAW (2021) 8️⃣
🏆🏅🥉10.SAW X (2023) 4️⃣
RANTIME:1️⃣1️⃣8️⃣ MINUTES = 4️⃣ KILLS
ONE KILL EVERY:2️⃣9️⃣.5️⃣ MINUTES
And I loved your cameo in the "Gremlins II" Kill-Count.
Make a evolution for king ghodora dude please
baguette🥖
Fun Fact: Mateo’s trap was actually recycled from Saw II!
Addison was originally going to be put in a waffle iron-like trap where she’d have to press her face against it to reach a key or an antidote. However, they replaced it with the Razor Box.
I love seeing ideas that were originally scrapped get repurposed into stuff that’s used later.
Huh. Neat!
I already love Saw ll so much, but that would make it SO MUCH BETTER
One of the unsung heroes of this film is the Title Card. It’s the first time in the series where this movie didn’t open with a trap and kill, instead just focusing on John and his cancer diagnosis. It does an INCREDIBLE job at setting the tone for this film.
The whole emotional opening and touching scenes with Jon getting his hopes up and bonding with the people who were at the clinic was such a double edged sword since i knew the general plot of the film and that they were scammers.
I was getting so frustrated knowing they were being so good at being disingenuous.
I felt so bad for Gabriella. She WON her trap fair and square and, by the rules, she should’ve been allowed to live but didn’t because SOMEONE wanted more money!
Gabriella should have broken her wrist and freed it first, letting her fall free onto the ground, invalidating the rest of the trap unless Kramer installed vertical panning to the gun, if not, she could have freely broken her ankle without fear of further exposure.
BTW same here, also felt shit after that.
@@drthrayjaxymaxy8017I was also blown away she went for her ankle first. Not even because she would of dropped but because breaking your ankle with hammer has to hurt a hell of a lot more than your wrist 😂😂
@@drthrayjaxymaxy8017yeah. She should’ve done the wrist first
@@XJIcequeen That might've hurt her pretty badly. She was a small woman and it's possible that a fall from that height could've been fatal or at least serious. A gymnast or a paratrooper might know how to land without getting seriously hurt but the average person is unlikely to know how.
The acting ensemble was absolutely incredible in this film. I found Valentina particularly strong, you could feel that gigli saw through her acting and the visual effects.
Agreed, but that gigli saw trap was designed terribly. She cut off her leg, sucked out all the marrow goo, but still died because the machine was so dam slow
@@σεα-ψ9ε her and Mateo both wasted a lot of time before starting their game. But yea, the way to win was hard to accomplish for Valentina
@@σεα-ψ9εshe wasted time
@@σεα-ψ9εnah she wasted like 30-60 seconds un the beginning specifically after Kramer said don't hesitate. I mostly blame Cecilia shitty ass coaching tho. I think that was the point tho. This movie showed John being a good role model for his philosphy while Cecilia literally got every answer wrong on the test.
@@Spectreffexexactly💯💯 you get it. Im surprised by how much people are saying theres was unfair when in reality they repeated to listen carefully and to not waste time which is what they both did. I do like that they gave Gabrielle an easier punishment though despite what happened
"To win your game, you have 3 minutes to solve string theory with a textbook from 1960 and a buzz saw slowly cutting the webbing between your fingers and toes. If you can't manage that, then clearly you don't have enough will to live."
"Amanda managed to kill a person and get a key from their body to survive, so clearly all of my games are winnable."
@@mrzeegamezhis methods are always if there’s a chance that it’s possible then he’ll do it. even if it’s a 1% chance
@@MegaAwesome1121 Been a while since I've seen the Saw series, but what about Adam in the first one? I really don't see how he was supposed to get that bathtub key. (unless it was explained in another movie)
@@RandomID10T-tm i’m pretty sure jigsaw didn’t intend for the key to fall down the drain
@@RandomID10T-tm Amanda kinda fucked with that one since she carelessly tossed the key onto him when he was unconscious in the tub (source: Saw III.)
I believe Amanda's hair here is intended to be a transitional haircut to her nerve gas house hair, given it was a little bit longer and still as choppily cut
That what I assumed.
Exactly
Exactly, cus her hair in Saw 2 is not much longer then here.
John is not the best hairstyler
Although this makes sense, it also would’ve been equally acceptable to believe she cut her hair AFTER this movie so we could avoid the little boy look
I also really liked that this movie shows why Amanda is so jaded in 2 and especially 3. Gabriella's death shook her faith in John's lessons having a positive impact on others, and it's clear she saw her pre-Jigsaw self in Gabriella as well
i think the idea of not using de-aging tech on tobin bell was such an awesome move considering how sick his character really was. just makes u feel and root for his character kinda.
"He comes to a bit later and sees Amanda.."
"Hey little boy, let me go-"
literally spit out my beer. Gold
The fact that someone succeeded is actually pretty awesome for a Saw movie.
yeah thats why i love this one more than the last 5 movies before this one
acting like nobody has ever won a saw trap before 💀
@@droplemmyTbf they have a pretty low success rate and the ones that Amanda makes are literally impossible to win. It's not everyday someone makes it, especially because people who you thought had plot armor, in fact....didn't.
Thats how your knew hw was still rusty lol 😅 the traps were more brutal and simpler to escape but eh he was testing prototypes 😅
I didn’t know I could cry happy tears from a saw kill count. You guys are so kind to have someone from the make a wish foundation on one of your kill counts. It also shows how loved you are in the horror community. I really love how you stand my your moto “be good people” because you are good people. Thank you.
I got to watch this movie in theaters and the only other person in my row was this little old lady that was all by herself.
The looks of horror we shared with each other were ✨ hilarious✨
Wholesomeness in saw????
Not allowed
There was also an old lady when I went but also more people, she started laughing crazy during the traps, so scary
My bestie and I went to see this and we were laughing during Valentina's trap because she threw up (I have chronic nausea so I ALWAYS have puke bags) and as soon as she was done she asked me what to do with the bag. Throw it away of course! Did you expect to keep it??
tobin bell's performance on comedic bits like "I help people overcome inner... problems" and "Detective, i need you to help me locate some people in need of our....... services" is some of the funniest shit i've ever seen
Jigsaw is like Agent 47 where if he goes more than 10 sentences without hinting at his "profession" he'll just die and it's the funniest thing ever
This movie offered a rare glimpse into the true mind of John Kramer, and really brought humanity to him for, at least in my opinion, the first time. Every actor did a fantastic job, and every kill was amazingly done, even if there weren't as many kills as I was expecting there to be, which may have actually been in the film's favor as it offered more time to bring the humanity and honesty to John and his story. Great video as always, James! Keep it up!
Right and proved why he technically lost it. He was betrayed and manipulated at his very lowest and thats even after what happened to his son and the other movie plots. It also shows why he has less sympathy for players later on becausethey are "soft" compred to these people in the game and their will to live. It explains why he also assumes they will all fail now because "its their nature andits doesnt change". Like with Cecelia or with Amanda, maybe after this she felt it wasnt fair for others to win the games because Gabriella still lost? Or it made her think no one deserves to survive more than Gabriella? I used to think Amanda's motivation was that she and Hoffman were jealous of eachother being able to "beat/win" the game. Ngl, this franchise is so complex and would be a great horror convo over wine lol 😅
It just doesn’t make sense to me,just few weeks ago he didn’t have problem with murdering innocent child and her mother,writing is all over the place with his character
@@yeeeaaahmayneee3808 who was that? You mean the female doctor and her daughter? The mom was murdered by Amanda and the daughter was saved (but her father died as well though.). Still, got a point
@@pixiestxNyomouf i’m talking about gordon’s wife and daughter
Actually cancer treatment can cause someone to age physically, so Kramer looking older in this movie made him look like someone fighting cancer. My step-uncle is a cancer survivor and he looked like he's older than he actually is because of the treatment.
Heck the fact he looked slightly older meaning Bobby would make more sense than his actor trying to look younger by wearing backwards cap since he would have gone through cancer treatment at the time
I think the video was more comparing this movie to the third and fourth where John looks younger in the timeline (even thought he’s still fighting cancer etc)
But isn't that scientifically convenient?
Yikes.
I mean, maybe, but the issue isn't with how old he looks in general but how old he looks in relation to the previous films. His cancer was not *worse* at the time of diagnosis than when he was literally dying on an operating table in some filthy warehouse.
It honestly felt so heartwarming seeing that John and Amanda gave Carlos that money
@thesteviejadeWho says they didn't save a little bit of cash for themselves? 😉
it felt the most real john response. i dont see him taking the money for himself.
@@sprazzatattat8289ya
UNLIKE THOSE SCAMMERS THAT FUCKED WITH JOHN
"And carlos, a kid who kick soccerballs against the wall.." "*crucial part of the operation*"
Anyone who believes John isn’t a murderer doesn’t understand the point behind the series. It actively portrays John as a hypocritical murderer who is smart enough to manipulate people like Amanda, someone who took the lesson to heart, to join in his murdering ways while using his way with words to dilute and throw away the responsibility of his killings
@@KawaiiFemBoi Yes, of course he did. Kidnapping someone and putting them in a trap that is designed to kill you is killing someone. It's not even a moral dilemma
@@demoninveinsno, killing is distasteful, he helps them to recover
Charles Manson technically never murdered anyone either but hes definitely responsible for all the murders just like John
@@THESARCASTICSCARFACE”Killing is distasteful” say the man who’s responsible for the deaths of dozens of people
@@KawaiiFemBoi That's not how it works. "They could've escaped the burning building I set fire to, so I'm innocent"
Feels so nostalgic for james to be back on a saw kill count, it just reminds me of the time i started watching the channel.
Same. „Saw Kill Count“ just popped into my recommended one day, and I‘ve been here ever since.
I appreciate this film having more of a story before the kills begin, giving more context for these victims.
It’s understandable why in the earlier films they showed it in flashbacks
22:23
LOVE that you can hear James actually struggling not to laugh
The leg cutting is the first time a saw trap has made me look away. There’s been plenty of others where I’ve been like ‘eeeeww’ but I was actually covering my eyes this time
Same
In my opinion, Mateo carving out parts of his head was worse. Cutting the brain itself wouldn't feel painful since, for some reason, our most important organ doesn't have any ability to do so.
However, there's a bunch of other things in the way that he'd need to remove to get to it.
The Spiral finger trap makes me cringe and look away every time
@KatWoman83 you just wait til you see Ron Perlman in Jigsaw's take on the scavenger's daughter
i passed out in the theaters and im not new gore lol
James’s ads are the only ones I never skip. The team always makes them so entertaining.
His and Conan's for me.
This is one of the better ones. Really depends on the movie
I skip em
Well, it's a good thing I have the $13.99 month plan...
I like the detail that as he's in Mexico, a lot of shots focus on buildings and statues, since Kramer is an architect.
"Bet you're wondering how I got here. It's cause of the cancer."
That has got to be the best opening line of any Kill Count so far
It's crazy to me that Tobin Bell did all this as an 80 year old man. It's easily his best performance to date. He's also really good in The Cello, a new movie, you all should definitely check it out.
Idk i feel that kinda downplays his performance in the original run.. He was always one of the best parts of every movie.. But I deffo agree this movie showcases him more by making him the lead character.. And Tobin deserves more movies to shine
I really liked how they humanized John with this one. The poor guy was hoping for a cure only to get scammed out of 250k. As someone who also has a disease that could easily take me out if I'm not careful, I can really sympathize with him. Those assholes certainly got what was coming to them. Not so much with the other players from the rest of the series.
The people organizing the scam sure, but a lot of the others still didn't really deserve to get jigsaw'd especially if you consider that Cecilia kinda got off easy (unless she dies at the start of the next film)
It feels similar as the crew from saw 5 or 6 with the insurance firm. Which was one of the most deserving ppl prior to this.
I would prefer if they went to prison for their actions instead of being in a saw trap, I doubt that woman is gonna feel “a change in heart”
@@joukeschat2486 yeah fuck that janitor who dared to be a smoker. ffs
I felt the opposite way. I didn’t like seeing jigsaw be humanized. He’s still a monster.
I love how they delve deeper into johns motives for doing this and the morality behind it also showing hes not completely evil as seen when he wants the young girl taken to the hospital and the wholesome interactions with the young boy
Yeah take her to the hospital after blasting her with enough radiation to cause burns within minutes...
As someone who had extremely low expectations I was pleasantly surprised at how good this film was, and in my opinion the best since Saw III. I love how it feels like an early 2000s saw film but it's one of the most unique and different with its approach.
Completely agree
i'd say second best since 3, because 6 was defo my favourite saw movie ever
The only negative I'd give is that it's pretty much solidified the fact that this series cannot survive without Tobin Bell. Once he's not able to play Jigsaw anymore, this franchise is dead.
Valentina's trap had me gaping in amazement the first time around, then cringing upon rewatch when I felt sympathy for the fact she almost beat it. Seeing her severed head and the rest of her body fall was absolutely nuts. Easily one of the best traps in the series, even if its feasibility in real life is extremely dubious.
I literally saw this movie in theaters when it came out and i was squirming in my damn seat but it was hard to look away 🤣🙌🏾
No, yeah, you'd die from blood loss way before you'd actually win
@@noahmaldonado5461 Dubious as in questionable. I had doubts when I saw how loosely she applied the tourniquet, but it was still so primal and incredible to watch. Once I saw Mateo's trap in action, I knew they went full Hollywood.
Usually I like 99% hate ads but with Kill counts current way of connecting it with the episode and Zoran being his weird self I actually really enjoy them and actually watch them so thank you James and the crew
😊😊😊
Me too
Same I'll never skip an Ad on a Kill Count because they're actually entertaining
Similar to how Film Riot does it, they make a whole skit that's worth watching around it.
Personally I kind of hate it. Not the end result (clearly good work by the crew and writers), but it bothers me that creators have to expend so much creativity to do advertisers jobs for them on top of their own work. There's a reason this kind of sponsored content got phased out in TV and movies decades ago and just constantly reminds me of how little respect online creators get still.
11:50 I love the editing of this shot. It’s the classic jumpy saw editing style but used for something completely different. It still conveys the same shock and confusion but for an emotional moment instead of a scary one. It’s so impressive how they balance the kind of campy and ridiculous plot with genuinely compelling emotional moments
Mwah so good
Tobin Bell is just awesome.
Fun fact about Renata Vaca, the actress that plays Gabriela: She used to be a member of mexican youtube sketch channel "QuePario!", which has more than a millions subs. Seeing her in a movie like this after spending most of my childhood watching her in these funny sketches left me in awe.
It's always great to see Saw back on the kill count as well as seeing Tobin Bell back, I read recently that Tobin Bell didn't have a great time doing Saw 1, he mentioned a lot about his experience about how he had to lay on a floor a lot and one saddest thing he said was he had to eat alone because nobody wanted to eat with him
I love that zoren is just a solid part of skits now. Hes such a welcome addition to the channel
The Amanda Young acting is truly amazing. We got to give Shawnee Smith some major props on showing the many sides of Amanda Young from the original movies. From her sympathy to a drug addict, to her trust in Jon Cramer for what he's done for her, to her spiral into madness with the death of a person she saw (hehe) a bit of herself in. Truly an exceptional character
So excited for this one, SAW is my favourite movie series by far and I love hearing James talk about it!
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It's dumb like thanksgiving
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this movie was subpar at best tho
@@Ramhams1337they said their favorite series though, not specifically talking about this movie
23:08 Can't stop laughing OMG,
"MAGICAL FAIRY PRINCESS"
She was a fairy
Amanda's reaction to Gabriela's death is kinda funny because if you apply real life rules to the Radiation Trap Gabriela was dead as soon as she started getting skin symptoms, at that point your internal organs are all effectively dead
Her skin bubbling was because of the heat from the machine.
Right, she was going to die anyway 😂
Really? She was only one I was rooting for..as a former drug addict..I know the drug will make u do things that normally u won't do
I love how this movie gives Johns character a bit more humanity. He didn’t want to have to murder an innocent child to live, he seems to truly want to only punish those who are wrongdoers.
i love that about this movie. the humanity that we see in the antagonists gives so much depth to the series and makes me so happy:)
This was the movie I saw with my boyfriend on our first date. It was also the night we realized we both watched Dead Meat 😂 Thanks James!
you both have great taste
How’s the relationship going?
You guys were made for each other
i hope u guys last forever
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Out of all the Saw movies. This is my favorite one, hands down. As a cancer survivor, I related so much with his character & the word "Hope"
When it was given & taken.
Congrats on beating that shit ❤
It's alright
@@ShawtySurelyTriflingSaying that someone "beat" cancer was and always will be cringe
@@balabanasireti someone always gotta come and make something salty. THAT is cringe.
@@balabanasireti
Trying to trivialize people who beat cancer is cringe as fuck!
Truly felt like a SAW movie and it was perfect
You just wait til Logan Loud talks about his experiences with Jigsaw on the Loud House
@@damianprock1650 What?
@@Brandon2940 you know what I mean
@@damianprock1650we really don't lol at least I dont.
@lilac7363 you wouldn't even imagine what I made the title card look like
Poor Valentina had the worst night. She was assxulted-almost rxped-that night, and just when she might have thought she was being saved, she was kidnapped, had to sever her own leg to save her life, only to fail and feel a few seconds of agony being decapitated. What an awful set of final hours 😢
i still think james's saw series is one of the most important creative works of the last decade
You won’t find many people disagreeing with that
Big props to James, Zoran, and the DeadMeat crew for doing that Make a Wish for Carswell (sorry if I spelled that wrong). Big hugs to you, Carswell! Family forever!
5 and a half years is insane, I remember vividly being extremely excited when james announced he was doing saw
Fun fact: when cencilia mentioned that she knew john there actually was a deleted scene that shows cencilia looking up john kramer during there phone call but again like the saw 6 flashback it was deleted lol
“Killing is distasteful!” says the guy who kidnaps people and puts them in literal death traps.
i didnt shoot the guy the bullet did
I think that speaks heavily to his mindset; he genuinely believed that he wasn't killing people, and that everyone had a chance to live. Saw II explores that somewhat when Detective Matthews said "putting a gun to someone's head and forcing them to pull the trigger is still murder", but they never really explore that again before Jigsaw dies.
"...to me."
Imo this was easily the best Saw since the original. Tobin Bell gave his best performance yet and his chemistry with Shawnee is incredible. I went to the midnight premiere of this movie and my entire theater erupted into applause when Hoffman showed up at the end.
25:02 Actually, it does make sense. Basically, John and Amanda had a beef with the victim, but even they wouldn't kill one of their own.
I love how the imagined trap is actually a great picturing of John's psyche. he doesn't picture his victims surviving but rather picturing what will happen when they lose.
You can really tell how much fun the whole team, but especially James had with this one, we love to see it ❤
I have rarely been as excited in a movie theatre as I was when Cecilia and Parker got trapped in the upstairs room and Hello Zepp started playing. Fuckin awesome plot twist with an even more awesome soundtrack!
5:58 “yeah, that SAWX” I laughed too hard, I did not see that one coming
16:33 i have no clue why but what Amanda says is just funny to me "you'll make it so long as you keep your head" when she is in a trap that is going to cut her head off
It’s funny cause that’s the joke
@@silentknight23well obviously they were explaining they found it funny thats all move on
@@miaab8843 lmao I honestly forgot about this comment so it seems like I have moved on
Saw X is probably my favorite movie in the series, I saw it opening day and it was AMAZING! Tobin Bell killed it in this movie.
I feel the same way . Saw X is amazing
Same, the part where hello zepp kicks in especially hits harder in theatre
@@LowerH250 i got chills there. It was such a cool experience
Out of the 10 films this is probablys my 6th favorite thought it was just ok
14:20 “cinco noches en Cecilias” took me outttt 🤣🤣🤣
AMEN XD
12:54 I felt that energy when he said "I'm telling you I love this shit!" When referring to the gore of the arm bombs
Valentina and Mateo deserved to live. She had already cut off her whole leg and he cut out a piece of his own brain, but the slow machinery was the reason why they didn’t live.
i love amanda’s crazy bob in this movie lol 😭 absolute queen
I love those kind of haircuts where you know the person/character has a vision and they are going to rock their hair just the way they want.
@@crizmeow8394exactly it looks great, I hate how there’s people actually complaining about it xD like wtf
@@crizmeow8394exactly !
Welcome to the set Carswell! Good luck on your directing/writing/acting journey!
I also got to say one thing I love about Saw is they never bother making the lighting look great or anything like that. They intentionally make everything look dirty and disgusting. It's how John sees himself and his cancer, it's how he views those he puts in the traps. The budget goes to what matters. The actors, and the gore!
I can’t imagine your feeling when make-a-wish reached out to you asking if they could have Carswell visit! You guys are awesome! Your kill counts are what got me here but your journey is what keeps me! Keep it up!
I like that shes prob the first chronologically to figure out that hes the jigsaw killer specifically.
Dear James, Chelsea, and Zoran,
Please keep the "Weird Kill Counts" going. There are so many horror and horror adjacent games and other media you could do! Plus I personally have loved the strike Era kill counts as being refreshing and cool!
20:54 The moment I’ve been waiting for!
"cinco noches in cecelia's" absolutely SENT me, great writing on this episode!
20:32 it’s like Eric Matthews said in Saw 2: “Putting a gun to someone’s head and forcing them to pull the trigger is still murder.” Just because John didn’t personally kill them doesn’t mean he’s not a murderer. The people are dead because of the traps John put them in. Whether or not there were ways to survive the traps is irrelevant. John put them there, therefore he’s responsible for their deaths. Ergo, he’s a murderer.
The Eyeball trap gave me reverse beatrap vibes in 2004 and I am so here for it!!
The atmosphere, the camera angles, the lighting, the music, Johns classic "I want to play a game", the speed shots, the intensity.
I hope SAW XI keeps that trend going. Also, Valentina deserved to live! She literally got through her trap with ease! But it is a SAW movie so nothing is fair in the world of Jigsaw. Paulette Hernandez (Valentina) earns my SCREAM QUEEN award of 2023!
More like Gabriela is the one I thought DESERVED to live the most
This is one of the best movies I've ever seen in the theater this year. I remember when me and my oldest brother went to see it, we saw a lady and what looked like her daughter walk into the theater and we were wondering if the mother knew what movie she brought her kid to. Once we got to the first trap of the movie, that being the eyeball trap, they left realizing that Saw X wasn't for kids.
Glad to see Carswell get an acting role on Deadmeat. Hope for the best
28:22 I like how Carlos doesn’t die showing that John still has some hope in humanity. And how John’s not fully a monster.
He's a murderer, not an asshole
@@Serenejsmooth isnt most of his victims also shitty ppl as well? not like his is picking that overworked retail teen whos trying to graduate college.
hes picking the assholes gaining from others misfortune
still a murderer but like could be worse
@@AngelWingsYT Yeah, except for those two dudes that had to fight over the girl. Like I know the girl ended up dying and the guys lived but the main game was them trying to kill each other when they didn't even do anything
@@Serenejsmooth fair fair
Honestly I hope Saw continues forever. They continue to deliver on the violence and horror which they know is exactly what the audience wants.
I can definitely see "From the book of Saw" stories being the future of Saw.
@@quazker I can as well
@@quazkeryou can say that again, but unlike our friend from *Spiral,* Logan Nelson is more likely to adhere to John's code of honor
I've been waiting for this episode after the SAG-AFTRA came to a resolution. Thank you for your solidarity James and the Dead Meat crew, and keep being the good people you all are
Can’t believe James forgot to mention that the actor who plays Parker is a previous killcount Vet. He played towers (the main villain) in Joe Lynch’s MayheM
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As a mod in the official TWD wiki, that name makes me so happy. Anyone else who has watched Fear The Walking Dead will know why.
Carswell's Dead Meat cameo made me smile. Lots of love to you and your family.
30:51 the pronunciation of jigsaw with the spanish J is so funny i love it
12:04 fun fact, i guess:
coincidentally, SAW and Duolingo did actually made a collab video promoting the film's release, and its apparently.... billy the puppet and duo riding a tricycle lol.
They’re really playing into those memes of the owl being a creepy stalker, huh? 😂
I legit smiled wide when I saw Hoffman at the end. 4 through 7 were so melodramatic but God I loved watching how over the top Hoffman was in them all.
Currently healing up from Covid and James' impression of John Kramer saying, "Yeah, that's me" literally sent me into a coughing fit from laughing so hard.
20:04 He was so wrong for roasting her like this! 😂😂😂
I hope Tobin Bell gets more mainstream recognition after this one. Saw X was definitely his best performance as John Kramer / Jigsaw
You're one of, like, maybe three UA-camrs whose sponsor ads I actually watch, and this was your best one yet.