Boy Andrew, your attacking this UA-cam career with the same work ethic and gusto as the RV detailing business you had. Keep banging these out. It’s refreshing to see your hard work and enthusiasm.
I like that it looks just like a normal trailer. Doesn't look like big living type, just nice and clean and most would just think your hauling cargo. Really stealthy looking.
That thing is pretty awesome. Those worried about the bedroom etc, it's a toy hauler not a family camper, you should be out riding All day and just crashing in this thing in the evening. So durable, long lasting finishes and super easy to clean/hose out means the most to me.
Been pondering this concept for several years. We have had various RV's for 40 years and there are only a couple of things that turn us away from one of these...I need a full stand up front bed, the "Crawl in crawl out'" deal up front isn't going to work for me...and for a lot of folks I know. When these start showing up with traditional RV 5th wheel forward bedrooms you will gain a lot more serious looks from RV'ers. Also prefer the traditional 5th wheel hitch over the goose neck. For those of us who boondock with SXS's or other OHV's 60 gallons of water isn't going to work. But...we are watching, as are several of our friends. When these issues are addressed, you will see a lot of folks ready to leave the crap RVs that the industry turns out for this style unit.
You hit the nail on the head current toy haulers shake apart so easy (1 yr) going down dirt roads for the serious buyer enjoy The opportunity to have a high End Coach Style ToyHauler
I've got friends in the horse business. They have opulent horse trailers with living quarters. Quite easy for Cimarron to convert these to the RV market. For the right fit these are great options for folk. High end but worth it.
Andrew, knowing your a Class A guy. ATC is without a doubt the leader in the toy hauler and car hauler market. Sorry, you had an issue with them, but that doesn't change the fact they are the best.
I have a Double R custom toy hauler and really like it. Outlaw Conversions has been turning out amazing work for years! Just as you said, trailer will hold up to use and travel much better than most traditional RVs and I attests they are easier to pull than traditional RVs.
Awesome! If they ever decide to do slight modifications for the off road boondocking crowd, they will dominate the market overnight! I’m considering a Black Series and these could be better than current best in class.
I have looked at some used trailers like this because of the ability to haul my toys and tools. The problem with horse trailers for me has been how narrow they are with the wheels on the outside instead of under the trailer. Definitely something I will consider here in a couple of years, when I get closer to being more mobile in my life. Great video as usual Andrew!
I am really excited to be able to see the “Outlaw” . I‘ve been looking at toy haulers for about a year. Now I need to place Cimarron on the top of my list.
Really like these, and resale value is unbelievable. I always thought a trick rooftop Party Deck would work really well on one of these Cimarron's with stair access from the inside.
As an RVIA tech I spent last winter in Texas working on Cimarron,, Outlaw horse trailers I often thought they would make a good toy hauler or full rv,,,just curious how the grey and black tanks are?? They set so low folk's keep dragging them off,,,
Thanks for branching out and showing other high end rv's. A toy hauler with a separate garage area is the way to go. No one wants to smell gas in their living room or sleeping area like most cheap production toy haulers.
Seen an Outlaw conversion at Auction that went for 92 k. Was 12 yrs old. Their work I inside was wonderful, and I good find no loose or damaged pieces. Their quality and previous owner made big impression on me
Very nice!! I have always thought, if I had the money I would build a custom horse type trailer. Something very much like this one. I will keep dreaming.
I like this trailer a lot first just hearing the closure of the door sounded so solid, this would be great just a trailer for a car , (just a box stacker) for a car with a large cedar closet in the nose for extra storage . So instead of towing the car directly behind the ikon .perhaps the slidout tray with dometic fridge on a small slide out ,and the extra outlets as well ty Andrew ...
Please with the Nitrogen. The reason they are used on aircraft is if they have to cook the brakes the tires don't explode. And when I say cook, I'm not talking about anything a ground vehicle will ever go through. Under emergency breaking the tires will outgas and even catch fire. Those volatiles mixed with oxygen under high internal pressure of the tires will turn them into bombs.
The Grand Design Momentum being the preferred RV toy hauler for most people, they fail to realize that these horse trailer conversions are built far better than any of the production 5th wheels.
That is a great looking trailer with high quality components. Does this company build stacker trailers around 35 to 40 feet with all of the amenities? The trailer will be towed by an diesel pusher rv.
ATC is becoming the Airstream of toy haulers. They are really nice and the weight/longevity benefits of the aluminum trailer is crazy. Your lookin 1,500 lbs less at a 28 foot trailer, more the bigger you go.
Fantastic video ! but the only thing can you please tell me the exact dimensions of the garage the width the wits between the wheel wells and I know it’s 16 foot long what is the width of the opening so we know what size vehicle will fit in thank you so much for your help like I say great video
Think of the mpg advantage alone 4 less feet of head wind. Been explaining the quality side to a lot of my shooting friends. 125k over 20 years. Plus resale. A++++ Set back spread axles. I'm sure it rides like a dream.
I’m wondering how difficult this trailer would be to level, I’m a big sxs guy and love riding national parks but the camping spots are not always super groomed and leveled. You don’t want to spend a weekend on a slope.
Would you be able to build a trailer to tow behind a renegade ikon size 20 feet or less just to park a Hyundai Kona with a cedar closet in the nose would it be recommended three axles for safety or just two ty
ATC has the full length available for the toys, or add a partition to separate the toys and living area. ATC also has 100 gallons of fresh water, and 32 gallons of gas vs 60 and 50. This trailer is almost identical to the Sundowner models, that have similar pedigree and interiors with a gooseneck hitch. Similarly customizable. If you are looking at one of them, you should at least consider the other. Even if just to use for price negotiation.
Very High Quality Long lasting built trailer that very few people will buy. Just being honest.....Water tank needs to be 100 gal. only one slide, ALL sleeping areas do not justify 120k, looks like they did not even try on the backsplash, only one short awning, when you have so much room to put more??? With only two axles, one has to wonder what the load capacity is as well as the fact that you need a dually to pull it, which most people don't have in the toy hauler world. Garage is better than most, longevity is there, other than that.....ehhh......GREAT IDEAS that could be improved upon in order to justify that price point. IMHO. Love the content though.
If I was making these and I was charging 120K having exposed screws in the living areas would make me feel embarrassed. I do not doubt the sturdiness and quality workmanship but most consumers these days expect fit and finish is paramount.
Horse trailers are 6-6 to 8 inside height, you choose. Widths to 8 and even 8-4. If you go with integrated storage then you have weatherproof topside storage. The storage on top is dry hay and feed storage on a horse version. There are cheaper racks that aren’t dry for the topside too. I have had a few customers I do repairs for buy a horse trailer used and have me take dividers and saddle racks out for toy hauler use.
Exterior finish is amazing. Keeping mind these are horse trailer builders, they can improve on the type of wood and finishes on the wood cabinets. Just an observation from the video. Perhaps they are more attractive in person.
I'd be really interested in you doing a video on ATC toy haulers. All aluminum 5th wheels and tow behind, looks like a quality product with some real innovative ideas
Now if they would just start looking at doing this for a car hauler it would be great. Do you know how many people in the motorsports arena are dying for something like this that is capable of hauling their car to the track for a weekend? Race haulers are expensive as hell.
Good morning Andrew boy O boy this is something sweet and all your thing's can be in it with out worrying about anything that to me is a most important I like...🚍🛣 Andrew did you notice the Door 🤯 This is something special!"
I will not deny on how nice this is but this concepts isn't new and quality is up there . I have a few friends have racetrailers thst hold race cars and full living quarters. As good as nice .
I'm in a power chair play guitar and sing! ??????possible combo's: recording studio, pwr chair lift, Peloton Bike, wall muscle strengthen, dialysis machine, sleep area not atop the hitch. Purchase time frame ASAP after I find it, yesterday.
Thank you! I look forward to your feedback. Those were a huge game changer for me when Detailing high end motorhomes. Especially sensitive surfaces like the front of the horse trailers.
Cimarron really tryna say they're the Prevost of the horse trailer world😂...No Honey that'd be Bloomer or Featherlite. Yall are down with Platinum trailers and Twister trailers, good but not the best.
Boy Andrew, your attacking this UA-cam career with the same work ethic and gusto as the RV detailing business you had. Keep banging these out. It’s refreshing to see your hard work and enthusiasm.
I like that it looks just like a normal trailer. Doesn't look like big living type, just nice and clean and most would just think your hauling cargo. Really stealthy looking.
Exactly!I agree!🎯💯💯💯👍👍😉
That thing is pretty awesome. Those worried about the bedroom etc, it's a toy hauler not a family camper, you should be out riding All day and just crashing in this thing in the evening. So durable, long lasting finishes and super easy to clean/hose out means the most to me.
Been pondering this concept for several years. We have had various RV's for 40 years and there are only a couple of things that turn us away from one of these...I need a full stand up front bed, the "Crawl in crawl out'" deal up front isn't going to work for me...and for a lot of folks I know. When these start showing up with traditional RV 5th wheel forward bedrooms you will gain a lot more serious looks from RV'ers.
Also prefer the traditional 5th wheel hitch over the goose neck. For those of us who boondock with SXS's or other OHV's 60 gallons of water isn't going to work.
But...we are watching, as are several of our friends. When these issues are addressed, you will see a lot of folks ready to leave the crap RVs that the industry turns out for this style unit.
ATC 5th wheel is the answer.
You hit the nail on the head current toy haulers shake apart so easy (1 yr) going down dirt roads for the serious buyer enjoy The opportunity to have a high End Coach Style ToyHauler
I've got friends in the horse business. They have opulent horse trailers with living quarters. Quite easy for Cimarron to convert these to the RV market. For the right fit these are great options for folk. High end but worth it.
Andrew, knowing your a Class A guy. ATC is without a doubt the leader in the toy hauler and car hauler market. Sorry, you had an issue with them, but that doesn't change the fact they are the best.
Their interiors are lacking though, seems so boring and sterile.
@@SLICKW1993 very industrial
Wow! Just totally thinking outside of the box on this one. Love it.
I have a Double R custom toy hauler and really like it. Outlaw Conversions has been turning out amazing work for years! Just as you said, trailer will hold up to use and travel much better than most traditional RVs and I attests they are easier to pull than traditional RVs.
Awesome! If they ever decide to do slight modifications for the off road boondocking crowd, they will dominate the market overnight! I’m considering a Black Series and these could be better than current best in class.
I have looked at some used trailers like this because of the ability to haul my toys and tools. The problem with horse trailers for me has been how narrow they are with the wheels on the outside instead of under the trailer. Definitely something I will consider here in a couple of years, when I get closer to being more mobile in my life. Great video as usual Andrew!
Wow , These trailers look well built , gonna keep this one in mind for future . Great Video.
Beautiful glass finish on the exterior and love wood color from interior!😍
I am really excited to be able to see the “Outlaw” . I‘ve been looking at toy haulers for about a year. Now I need to place Cimarron on the top of my list.
Check out inTech and ATC
Really like these, and resale value is unbelievable. I always thought a trick rooftop Party Deck would work really well on one of these Cimarron's with stair access from the inside.
That would be awesome
Outlaw will do that they are a custom convertor. Roofs on these trailers are built to haul generators and hay on.
Does that garage have the capacity for larger toys like a Jeep?
Definitely a game changer!!!!! Beautiful!!!
As an RVIA tech I spent last winter in Texas working on Cimarron,, Outlaw horse trailers I often thought they would make a good toy hauler or full rv,,,just curious how the grey and black tanks are?? They set so low folk's keep dragging them off,,,
Thanks for branching out and showing other high end rv's. A toy hauler with a separate garage area is the way to go. No one wants to smell gas in their living room or sleeping area like most cheap production toy haulers.
Seen an Outlaw conversion at Auction that went for 92 k. Was 12 yrs old. Their work I inside was wonderful, and I good find no loose or damaged pieces. Their quality and previous owner made big impression on me
Wish this had been around when I was hauling horses years ago the quality is superb
How straight those black outside panels are says allot on how well it was constructed
Very nice!! I have always thought, if I had the money I would build a custom horse type trailer. Something very much like this one. I will keep dreaming.
Those are so superior compared to a fiberglass 5th wheel. Great video!
I like this trailer a lot first just hearing the closure of the door sounded so solid, this would be great just a trailer for a car , (just a box stacker) for a car with a large cedar closet in the nose for extra storage . So instead of towing the car directly behind the ikon .perhaps the slidout tray with dometic fridge on a small slide out ,and the extra outlets as well ty Andrew ...
I agree!🎯💯💯💯👍👍
Great review do one on the ATC haulers. They are better than stick and wood but not as high end as these.
Please with the Nitrogen. The reason they are used on aircraft is if they have to cook the brakes the tires don't explode. And when I say cook, I'm not talking about anything a ground vehicle will ever go through. Under emergency breaking the tires will outgas and even catch fire. Those volatiles mixed with oxygen under high internal pressure of the tires will turn them into bombs.
The Grand Design Momentum being the preferred RV toy hauler for most people, they fail to realize that these horse trailer conversions are built far better than any of the production 5th wheels.
Right EXACTLY!!I'm in full agreement with you on this one!🎯💯💯💯👍👍😉
I definitely wouldn’t like that sleeping area and i would let it all be painted light white,also i wonder what’s behing that door in the sitting area.
That is a great looking trailer with high quality components. Does this company build stacker trailers around 35 to 40 feet with all of the amenities? The trailer will be towed by an diesel pusher rv.
I don't believe so but if you check with the folks at Transwest they can fill you in.
Andrew, I would like you to compare this to an ATC 5th wheel or a ATC 28 front bedroom model. The ATC are all aluminum.
Was thinking the same. ATC also has living quarters versions now too.
ATC is becoming the Airstream of toy haulers. They are really nice and the weight/longevity benefits of the aluminum trailer is crazy. Your lookin 1,500 lbs less at a 28 foot trailer, more the bigger you go.
Fantastic video ! but the only thing can you please tell me the exact dimensions of the garage the width the wits between the wheel wells and I know it’s 16 foot long what is the width of the opening so we know what size vehicle will fit in thank you so much for your help like I say great video
Beautiful rig , I own a fifth wheel travel trailer and would love to have something with that exterior look . 🖐👍🍾
I'd like to see Dean get a hold of one of those!
That would be awesome!
That would be sick !!!! Also this is awesome toy hauler !!!!
O! For real!
Very nice Toy Hauler, I am convinced this is the best available.
The only negative I see is the counter tops and table. They may want to consider solid surface counter tops as those show wood grain and screws.
Think of the mpg advantage alone 4 less feet of head wind. Been explaining the quality side to a lot of my shooting friends. 125k over 20 years. Plus resale. A++++
Set back spread axles. I'm sure it rides like a dream.
What is the width between the couches when they are in the up position/stored position ?
I love this toy hauler very versatile.
thanks for the video ! Thats great. Thomyt
A very very informative video Andrew. Keep them coming. OK?
You did a video recently of a Prevost being traded in by a "horse Whisperer" guy. They said he was getting one of these. Makes sense.
I’m wondering how difficult this trailer would be to level, I’m a big sxs guy and love riding national parks but the camping spots are not always super groomed and leveled. You don’t want to spend a weekend on a slope.
Would you be able to build a trailer to tow behind a renegade ikon size 20 feet or less just to park a Hyundai Kona with a cedar closet in the nose would it be recommended three axles for safety or just two ty
Wondering if this would haul a small Ford Focus?
The spread-axle weight distribution is TERRIFIC...(retired driver)
ATC has the full length available for the toys, or add a partition to separate the toys and living area. ATC also has 100 gallons of fresh water, and 32 gallons of gas vs 60 and 50.
This trailer is almost identical to the Sundowner models, that have similar pedigree and interiors with a gooseneck hitch. Similarly customizable. If you are looking at one of them, you should at least consider the other. Even if just to use for price negotiation.
Very High Quality Long lasting built trailer that very few people will buy. Just being honest.....Water tank needs to be 100 gal. only one slide, ALL sleeping areas do not justify 120k, looks like they did not even try on the backsplash, only one short awning, when you have so much room to put more??? With only two axles, one has to wonder what the load capacity is as well as the fact that you need a dually to pull it, which most people don't have in the toy hauler world. Garage is better than most, longevity is there, other than that.....ehhh......GREAT IDEAS that could be improved upon in order to justify that price point. IMHO. Love the content though.
If I was making these and I was charging 120K having exposed screws in the living areas would make me feel embarrassed. I do not doubt the sturdiness and quality workmanship but most consumers these days expect fit and finish is paramount.
Quality made in America. Luv your product
Love this for my drag car. Very COOL!!
Very interesting setup.
Most awesome. Look good behind my dually. What’s the starting out the door for this one?
120k
Is this the TransWest location in Colorado off of 25 in Erie/Dacono?
Off of I25 in Frederick about a half hour north of Denver
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele Nice, we're in Firestone, about 5 minutes away. Myself and my company give you guys a ton of business.
How tall is the trailer with air conditioners?
Horse trailers are 6-6 to 8 inside height, you choose. Widths to 8 and even 8-4. If you go with integrated storage then you have weatherproof topside storage. The storage on top is dry hay and feed storage on a horse version. There are cheaper racks that aren’t dry for the topside too. I have had a few customers I do repairs for buy a horse trailer used and have me take dividers and saddle racks out for toy hauler use.
What an impressive trailer.
Horse trailers are well built usually, but they need to give it better ground clearance and most people want a front bedroom instead of a bunk.
Very nicely built toy hauler..Quality 👊
Nice trailer; however, I think ATC has a more industrial design and can haul more cargo.
Exterior finish is amazing. Keeping mind these are horse trailer builders, they can improve on the type of wood and finishes on the wood cabinets. Just an observation from the video. Perhaps they are more attractive in person.
Outlaw is a custom convertor they will put anything you want in one.
How much weight can you haul in the garage? Small car? 3,500 lbs or less?
Sundowner been building these for 4 yrs. I bought one in 17.
I'd be really interested in you doing a video on ATC toy haulers. All aluminum 5th wheels and tow behind, looks like a quality product with some real innovative ideas
I went to their factory in Indiana but they were very strict about what I could film and made it too much of a hassle for me.
Very impressive!
What are the weights on this trailer? This is a really cool alternative to conventional RV’s
Can you build same with 12 ft garage larger living space
This thing is badass!! 👊🏼👊🏼
Now if they would just start looking at doing this for a car hauler it would be great. Do you know how many people in the motorsports arena are dying for something like this that is capable of hauling their car to the track for a weekend? Race haulers are expensive as hell.
Great video, I’m wanting one now!
What do theses weigh? They look extremely strong.
Love this trailer!
Good morning Andrew boy O boy this is something sweet and all your thing's can be in it with out worrying about anything that to me is a most important I like...🚍🛣
Andrew did you notice the Door 🤯 This is something special!"
Somone needs to make a boat hauler
THIS IS MY CUP OF TEA to transport a sxs and snowmobile
1492 Coachworks builds an incredible toy hauler.
Very nice! Price is a little high for my range though
After looking at all the crap builds on the market now we will definitely take a look at one of those beauties 🥂
That's fantabulous
Not my cup of tea. It would be interesting to see them build one that is all living space. What it would look like and cost.
Sundowner will build an open model, in addition to the garage model. I prefer having the garage sealed off from the living quarters.
I love that unit!
Dad and I may stay in his living quarter horse trailer...he can do with company..really not bad...this is nice.
Very nice !!!
I will not deny on how nice this is but this concepts isn't new and quality is up there .
I have a few friends have racetrailers thst hold race cars and full living quarters. As good as nice .
That sleeping area looks like an actual bedroom I guess kinda like mine tv in front of my bed
Great video!
I'm in a power chair play guitar and sing!
??????possible combo's: recording studio, pwr chair lift, Peloton Bike, wall muscle strengthen, dialysis machine, sleep area not atop the hitch.
Purchase time frame ASAP after I find it, yesterday.
He gets so close to his face with the camera🤣🤣
I ordered the bug scrubber thru your link. Thanks for the tip
Thank you! I look forward to your feedback. Those were a huge game changer for me when Detailing high end motorhomes. Especially sensitive surfaces like the front of the horse trailers.
Hello..windows ?
3 year warranty, on a trailer that costs 6 figures ?
They don’t want to stand behind it for long.
This is the trailer I want. Whats the weight of 1 of these
I'd much rather have aluminum cabinets (ATC/InTech) over hardwood for durability & WEIGHT savings.
@@joemonroe9402 nope.
That thing is perfect
This toy hauler is the best made. Just spend the same as a house. $125,000 - $1,000,000.
The hitch should be upgraded to that motor ride
Beautiful
Cimarron really tryna say they're the Prevost of the horse trailer world😂...No Honey that'd be Bloomer or Featherlite. Yall are down with Platinum trailers and Twister trailers, good but not the best.
wow great
Nitrogen tires turned out to be waste of time unless they got a decent suspension on it those 16 ply tires are gonna beat it to death
For 120k I would expect to see counter tops that not laminated product. Unlike you I don’t see the quality expected for a house price.