Absolutely. This series made me fall in love with English history more than 50 years ago. It is a passion that continues to this day. Thank you, Glenda Jackson and all others who brought Elizabeth R to reality.
This is far more engrossing & informative & no overt sex scenes or need to embellish history . It’s historical accurate as close as possible. Rather than the ludicrous “ Tudors “ we’re they wore Elizabethan dress & only showed Henry viii to have 1 sister who married a Portuguese king which is completely inaccurate. I’m with starkey on the “ Tudors” staring Johnathan rhyes Myers it was utter trash - YET this is brilliantly done
This vintage British TV series is unquestionably a classic. I commend not only the acting but the script as well... I no longer hear the same quality of dialogues in our contemporary period dramas. No matter how many times I watch this series, I never cease to be fascinated by the elegance of its LANGUAGE, the poetic cadence of its sentences and phrases, the spontaneity and quickness of its wit. I dare say that it has elevated the English language to a sublime level: the PHONETICS here is simply unparalleled and I have never heard the Queen's English enunciated with such consummate skill. At the risk of sounding fulsome, I was so moved by the beauty of its language that I almost wept. Even the masterful use of intonation and voice modulation is nothing short of majestic. Eventually, I ended up asking why we don't have this same quality in our contemporary TV series in this digital age? Perhaps my taste is rather archaicc but part of the answer could lie in the fact that even the English language may have evolved alongside technological advances -- the two being inversely proportional to each other (for lack of a better term). Watching "Shadows of the Tower" is much like earning the privilege of seeing the Royal Shakespeare... for free. It is sheer joy. Kudos!
You know... this comment itself is so beautiful and true that I am hit with the same pangs the show gives me. I do wonder at how television has fallen in quality
What I really like about this series is the how the relationship between Henry VII and Elizabeth of York was built. It managed to do something Phillipa Gregory's novels could never do, without even a single sex-scene; it built a bond of understanding and eventually, deep love. At the end of the first episode, for example we see the king and queen sitting on their thrones, touching hands very formally. Then a close-up of the hands shows him taking her hand properly and squeezing it. That kind of on-screen chemistry can't be easily recreated.
EExactly in real life he didn’t have any mistresses because the marriage was based on trust and love it was solidified not just based on protocol but they did really love each other
I love these gritty, stripped down, low-budget, 1970s BBC historical drama series. They had a real gem in 1970 with The Six Wives of Henry VIII. I saw that when the American PBS ran it around 1982. This series doesn't seem to have been as much of a hit, but then who can compare with Keith Michell as Henry VIII?
@@saradecapua3264 it used to be on UA-cam but they removed it. Now you can only watch it on Daily Motion and it’s full of advertisements. I also love these old BBC shows. You can still watch Edward VII on UA-cam also and it’s a pretty good series.
They weren't low budget at all but costed correctly. It's really a theatre production & would have looked & played great. Do one episode per month. Straight stage productions non musicals which dominate our theatres are worth seeing.
If you want pointless sex scenes between the beautiful people, there's always the Tudors (which also has the benefit of being very entertaining). This, however, is a full on Historical drama.
Tudor history, especially the reigns of Henry VII and Henry VIII, is a special interest of mine and has been for over 5 decades (I'm 68 now). I prefer a series that is reasonably faithful to history snd can actually get period costuming correct to a mess like "The Tudors". I really looked forward to watching it when it first came out. If they can't even get Henry VIII right, well, you can see where the series was headed. I like that "The Shadow of the Tower" manages to entertain as well as educate.
I couldn't get over that the actor playing Henry VIII bore no resemblance to him at all. The Tudors series does not hold a candle to the excellent work done in this series as well as The Six Wives of Henry VIII and Elizabeth R.
I watched this series 3 yrs ago, 2 yrs ago, last year and again this February. Fantastic every time! Thanks MrsTudor1 for bringing us some decent historical drama.
I can almost find something great when checking out MrsTudor1's channel. I'm on my second or third go-round with this series and enjoying it just as much as the first.
Henry VII was cold, but strategic. Even with human lives, he made sure to balance terror and "mercy". And Lady Beaufort would know about difficult birth
Henry VII: "Richard of Gloucester made him his heir, that should be enough for him" Jasper: "But he didn't inherit!" Henry VII "Is that my fault?" Someone should make a thug-life meme out of that :P
Well...I'm damn glad I found and watched the entire series before it was nibbled away at by copyright B.S. But even in a partial form, it is still an amazing series. I wish the BBC could find it in their hearts to have mercy on those of us on THIS side of the Pond. They have SO MUCH excellent programming. We have so LITTLE.
The Beeb could start something like a missionary society, not to spread inauthentic versions of "high culture" but rather, as an effort to share rich teacups of the best bits of British high culture while managing its rationing . Like the British Institute used to do, before these was on demand streaming into the comfort of private homes.
@@brendaharper5998 Wolf Hall is excellent. I got to watch it while Amazon was running it free for those with Prime. That is well worth of watching as a binge but then most if not all of the BBC's Tudor dramas are binge-worthy.
Thank you so much for posting this series...It has become a favorite of mine. HenryVII has always been my favorite Tudor and James Maxwell does such a magnificent job in playing him here.Hard to believe Maxwell is actually American...His accent is perfect.
Totally agree. I think Henry VII is completely underrated. Part of the problem is his early reign is overshadowed by his money grasping ways of the end of the reign.
sedekiman r There is no evidence to suggest he could have been involved. The evidence is they disappeared within a few months of Richard III usurping the throne. It is true there little no direct evidence Richard had them murdered. However, there is even less evidence anyone els was involved in their disappearance. There is, however, circumstantial evidence Richard was involved.
@@brontewcat I hate Phillippa Gregory SO MUCH with her bs biased theories. HVII's "claim" was as strong as wet paper with the princes dead or alive so why murder them, he won by right of conquest(just barely at that) and solidified it by marrying EOY. RIII had alot more motive as they were his IMMEDIATE threats and would become v dangerous with age. Plenty of deposed kings had "mysteriously" disappeared or died before the princes under their usurper's care. Had he beat Henry, he would be home free bc the biggest threats were GONE. He had shitty luck as king or VERY bad karma 😏. Either way, when the princes disappeared, rather he had a hand in it or not, it was RIII fault bc they were under his care. He really was the og scheming backstabbing uncle just waiting to screw the family out of the inheritance 😂.
I'm enjoying this immensely. Many thanks for having posted such an enjoyable series. A refreshing reach back into a televised time sans the sweat, exquisitely detailed lust, and foul language that punctuate historical drama nowadays.
I really enjoy this underrated but beautiful British tv series about Medieval history. I never knew how civilised and cultured men and women were in England ruling elites and nobility as my generation see Hollywood portraying this narrative but I prefer this British version with their low budget yet they recapture and beautifully produced a dramatic performance that is so simple yet fascinating to watch.
I absolutely adore this entire series...I've watched it over and over. I have only one wish: that the actors portraying the Stafford bros. had not chewed the scenery quite so vigorously. Both rarely spoke in a tone of voice below a shout. Perhaps they were predominantly stage actors, and were used to having to project to the back row. But still, they were excellent, and the rest of the cast, even bit players, were superb. Thank you, Mrs. Tudor, for your consistently superior programmes, and please forgive my nit picking.
This was relatively early in Maurice Roeves' TV career although as you guessed he had done a lot in the theatre, especially back home in Scotland, but he has been appearing on TV for something like half a century perhaps most memorably as important supporting roles in the later UXB and Tutti Fruitti. His last role was a couple of years ago when he was pushing 80. i will grant however that he needed a bit of reignin gback for this one. It's safe to say that John Hammill isnlt as well known except possibly in the field of, err, "adult" productions - a subject about which I am pretty ignorant.
As I suggest above Hammill came to specialise in roles that, to put no finer a point upon it, relied on his attributes. He is pretty open about it, bless him "The sex movies ruined my career. But you know how it is, I was out of work, the birds were smashing, and I've always been a born flasher"
So, on videos like this occasionally people will get a little bothered about historicity, but this episode is a pretty good example of how to reconcile the historical record with a dramatic presentation. Strictly speaking, Henry VII didn't "ban" liveries and retaining: he attempted (with below average success) to regulate the practice, basically through a licensing system, but even this modest attempt ruffled a lot of feathers, and the Earl of Oxford, despite being a loyal king's man, actually did get put on recognizance for exceeding the number of liveried followers the new law entitled him to. But of course, the whole business unfolded over, like, two decades, so a single council meeting wherein a ban on liveries is hotly debated, though not _strictly_ what happened, communicates the significance of what did happen with more clarity and intensity than you might get sifting through a pile of primary sources, assuming, of course, the dramatist knows what she's doing.
I'm really starting to enjoy this series. Personally I liked "The Tudors" despite its historical deviance too. I can see why George R.R. Martin drew most of his inspiration from this period in "The Song of Ice and Fire" series.
The Tudors was great entertainment. A Song Of Ice and Fire is brilliant, though. You're right, there's a lot of inspiration to be drawn from this era. Martin also manages (in the books at least) to portray them all as human beings and not one dimensional "good guys" and "bad guys".
The good old days before all British television was reduced to vapid "murder shows" set in quaint English villages where the sun always shines ('Midsomer Murders') or supposedly gritty "murder shows" set in dreary northern towns where it never stops raining ('Vera').
Many of these actors I saw in bit parts, normally playing bad guys or such in serials The Sweeney, Avengers & many more and showing, that giving the chance, they could be as statuesque as Richard Burton, Peter O'Toole, Richard Harris & other luminaries . .
Similar quality BBC 70s period dramas here on UA-cam is 'The Devil's Crown' & the civil war (British!) 'By the Sword Divided', both highly recommended.
8:36 - Everyone stopped muttering and talking once the Pope's name came up, lol. 9:33 - "He's got no right to the Crown!" Well...Viscount Lovell, the Pope would seem to disagree with you, lol...
Hello Mrs Tudor, episodes 9, 10 and 11 have been blocked in the country I am in, however the other episodes are playing without any problem. Please can you fix it? I am enjoying this series,thanks for the uploads.
We hear the baby cry but never hear Elizabeth crying out in labor pains. It is possible for a woman to give birth quietly but a majority cry out. Elizabeth looks very composed for just giving birth.
+InnannasRainbow Actually in those times it was considered quite normal for a woman not to cry out when giving birth. I think it may have been from some odd notion that if a woman cried out during labour it would somehow affect the child.
+MrsDinosaur100 Not only that, but we women are supposed to be in agony during childbirth because we are 'sinful daughters of Eve' and God commanded that women should be in pain during childbirth. Therefore, don't scream and cry, you are getting what you deserve. Fuck that. It was even illegal to give the laboring mother something to ease her pain since that ever loving god said she should suffer.
LOL....Funny to think that the first person to use any form of pain relief during childbirth was Queen Victoria. She hated the whole pregnancy/childbirth situation, but went though it 9 times as we know, but I believe when she was in labour 8th child she used Cloroform to help ease the pain..
The series producers made sure we knew who the main players were and how they were related. I was able to have sympathy for the Yorkists. The Tudors are shown for their cunning and the ability to take a calculated risk.
Well, well, it would seem that Henry VII had a bone or two to pick with the Church as well. Actually, while the split between Rome and the English Church happened during the reign of Henry VIII, I sense that the relationship of the two was uncomfortable at best, especially after Henry II had Becket murdered. You can actually see the roots of Henry VIII's attitude toward the Church, though of course, he took it much farther than his father would have ever been likely to do.
The church was, by the early 16th century, increasingly corrupt. The Borgias had been in power ffs !! Historically, popes have been known to be warriors who used armed forces to push their agendas...agendas that included self-serving ideals. They have held power by suppressing anything which threatened that power, particularly: the advancement of human knowledge (if the populace is ignorant, they will follow ridiculous doctrine more easily). Keep em hungry, keep em stupid, keep em bowing and scraping....
Friction between the monarch and the self-asserted "rights and powers" of the Roman bishop date back to Damascus I who created the myth of papal primacy and were entrenched by the Investiture Conspiracy. They assuredly involved tensions with other peoples - the French and the HRE, in particular. The fact is that Romans 13 acknowledged ministry to which all, including the real church, is subject. The Latin rite has no power of excommunication - Christ alone has the keys to Hades.
It was always there. One can not serve two masters and the king needed educated men, but the church held the monopoly on that. There is a reason the Tudors built schools.
@alecblunden8615 but Christ gave St Peter the keys of heaven, no? Besides which, excommunication is about exclusion from the sacraments of the church, not from heaven per se.
Strictly speaking, the first King of England who was called "Majesty" was Richard II, but that was his idea. It might be the person who wrote the script simply didn't know better.
I was just going to say that Richard II used it, but Bolingbroke dropped it. Wolsey suggested it to Henry VIII because Francis used it, or something like that.
I wonder if Prince Charles could be persuaded to adopt the title 'Your Grace' if and when he takes the throne? I think that it would be preferable. Thank you for your observation on this point ; I find it very interesting indeed.
@@mxylpx yikes !! I though that Miss Jackson was too angry all of the time. Elizabeth was strong, but strove to be beloved. I doubt that she was constantly so strident !
Used to think Henry VII was one of the 'better ' Tudors (if there was such a thing!) However he turns out to be a sneaky, mendacious, meretricious and brutal as his psychopathic son! And they call the Plantagenets 'bloody!'
I still can't bring myself to watch "The Tudors". First of all, the actor that played Henry VIII looked nothing like him, even when he was young. The LEAST they could have done was to find an actor with red hair! And the costuming was a botch, too. I know what the style of clothing looked like throughout Henry VIII's reign and the clothing--especially the men's--looked more Elizabethan than Henrician.
It seems to suit the part they're playing to be portrayed as young adventurers, but after watching this I was surprised to find that the Stafford brothers were not by any stretch young men in 1486. Sir Humprey Stafford was born in 1427, and Thomas in 1430, making them 59 and 56 respectively. Google Sir Humprey STAFFORD Knight - Freepages - Ancestry.com.
+tnecklover According to one site I've seen, Thomas "promised to behave and was set free." sites.google.com/site/stedwardsa2level/home/tudor-rebellions/rebellions/lovell-rebellion-1486 After that, I can find nothing. I suppose he behaved in quiet obscurity, and likely was never in service to the king, for why would anyone at the court want to advance him in any way? He was allowed to live, the best he could hope for. I can't find any date of death.
intresting nuance from history* the war of the cousins-roses, everyone was related to edward III king of england.., the yorkists and lancastrians were not the only ones related directly or had a claim to the throne, philippa gregory,david starkey and many tv shows like spanish princess,tudors,white queen are popular depictions of this era... the Tudors dynasty started in wales....they did not come from nowhere or where common-poor or provincial nobodies.... suddendly becoming monarchs of england, as is often depicted., everyone knows the later tudor dynasty of english kings, but not their Welsh origins.. tudor=tewdar originated in Penmynydd (in Welsh: Tuduriaid Penmynydd) were a noble and aristocratic family, connected with the village of Penmynydd in Anglesey, North Wales,[2] who were descent from Marchudd ap Cynan, Lord of Rhos and Rhodri the Great, King of Gwynedd (Kingdom of gwynedd founded in 5th century* Gwynedd Romano-British kingdom until 1216* affinity with Rome survived long after the Empire retreated from Britain, particularly with the use of Latin in writing and sustaining the Christian religion, gwynedd kings were titled *kings of the britons* as depicted by neninus,historia britanum and other medieval sources,...st gildas... so tudor propaganda aside, henry VII claim to the throne* through conquest on the battle of bosworth* and his cousin Richard III who also had *romano british welsh ancestry too Princess Gwladus, daughter of Llywelyn ab Iorwerth king of gwynedd and all wales married Lord Ralph de Mortimer... the powerful anglo-norman dynasty... loyal ally of King Henry III of England and at times an enemy, at times an ally, of Llywelyn ap Gruffudd, Prince of Wales. so if welsh-british-european is anything, its even better than any game of thrones,chronicles of narania,lord of the rings, the witcher that were all inspired by wales ...the land of the dragons...
@@shellieeyre8758 Yes, but effectively his Act of Primacy by which he abrogated the power of the Pope and his dissolutio of monasteries signaled the effective end of Catholicism, in England. Edward VI put a legal stamp on this suppression of Catholicism started by his father.
I hesitate to completely concur. Partially, yes. But I would rather suppose that the Old Faith only truly faced extirpation from the throne with the failure of James II to overcome the invasion forces of William of Orange, allied to a Whig party as intent on casting the crown out of its remaining executive privileges as it was to amplify the claims of the City & the pulpit to control of the realm.
This is really well acted, in a way you don't really find anymore. Excellent casting. However, it does get a little, 'grand,' even for a production about an English Queen. And for the prototype of the saavy player queen, she sure does carp alot.
It has indeed. They're saying it's a duplicate video. However, I'm going to chance my arm a little and re-upload the episode tomorrow. Thanks for the warning and apologies for leaving it so long.
How historically accurate is this? I'm seriously asking because Henry VII's reign isn't really my forte. If it's even half-true, he was one clever son of a bitch.
That Guy He might have been ruthless but he was shrewd, calculating and clever. He made extortion an art form. Hence, the coffers of England got rich, which his son, Henry VIII, just squandered away. Henry VIII was like a spoiled brat that everything was handed unto him like a silver platter.
@@anja1627 Yes, from my study of Tudor history I'd say it's very accurate. And Margaret Beaufort certainly didn't raise a stupid child. Fun fact: Margaret gave birth to Henry VII at only 13. The experience left her insides so messed up that she was never able to have another child. Your assessment of Henry VIII as a spoiled brat is spot-on. His reign, especially the last ten or fifteen years, was basically one long temper tantrum. I could picture Henry VIII looking at his son from the next world and being totally appalled. I know that if I'd been Henry VII, I would been doing continual face palms.
@@harrietharlow9929 Margaret Beaufort didn't bring him up - they were separated from When Henry was a little boy and then he spent 14 years in exile before Bosworth.
King Arthur who was betrothed to Catherine of Aragon. Who the the Ferdinand’s insisted the death of the Earl of Warwick to solidify there daughters hand . Ie to ensure there was not a future rebellion against Henry Tudor legitimacy of King . This came to haunt Catherine of Aragon. Who went through a tumultuous life once in England. I’m not religious yet Catherine was devout , I wonder if she thought it was her punishment
+Cynthia Snowden. Trust me one day younger people not yet born will look at the hairstyles and looks of today and make a similar comment to yours about how ridiculous they look. Fashion is always ridiculous in hindsight.
very enjoyable series.....phillipa gregory *feminist* apporoach in: white queen,white princess and the pseudo historically inacurate spanish princess, even CW Reign make tudor-stuart history entertaining... the shadow power* behind the throne, was mater rex aka Duchess of Bedford:Lady Magaret Beaufort , who was either *(close or distant) too all the relatives of King Edward III, including Duchess Cecily of York: the grandmother of Queen Elizabeth of York... tudour propaganda, was so succesfull the merging of the symbols of york and lancaster and the beaufort dynasty symbol on the houses of parliment.... also the two other forgotten about or ignored in history figures, who during the reign of Henry IV after Richard II his cousin was deposed... owen glendower* prince of wales was a distant relative of Henry Tudor, and Duke Henry Percy too Elizabeth of York.... a matter of close and distant relatives fighting for the crown* , the inspiration for GAME OF THRONES...... the banks of braavos is a pseduo dipiction of the city and corportation of London and the Lord Mayor London role..., London started long long before any english monarchs or any war of the cousins-roses even started.....
i have to admit I that I find the mens hairstyles very feminine, so obviously styled (as if they have just left the hairdresser) and the not so subtle us of make up and their mannerisms make them appear very camp and as for Elizabeth of York - stuffed Barbie doll - but that is just my opinion - the story still is very intriguing
Great series but I wish it had some sex and romance it's a little dull and constant talking . I guess the English feel the need to fill every m0ment with constant dithering about. They never take a breath or take in some silence. It feels like a filmed play with the actors projecting out to an audience instead of eachothereach other. But I love the history and Elizabeth of York is gorgeous .
This was first broadcast in 1972...and is therefor not terribly modern. Think back to that era....television censors would not have tolerated sex scenes or lewdness.
Not just the acting. The research, the detail, great way of learning and appreciating history. Thanks
Absolutely. This series made me fall in love with English history more than 50 years ago. It is a passion that continues to this day. Thank you, Glenda Jackson and all others who brought Elizabeth R to reality.
I love these. Yes the sets are non-existing, but the acting, the script! Marvelous!
This is far more engrossing & informative & no overt sex scenes or need to embellish history . It’s historical accurate as close as possible. Rather than the ludicrous “ Tudors “ we’re they wore Elizabethan dress & only showed Henry viii to have 1 sister who married a Portuguese king which is completely inaccurate. I’m with starkey on the “ Tudors” staring Johnathan rhyes Myers it was utter trash - YET this is brilliantly done
This vintage British TV series is unquestionably a classic. I commend not only the acting but the script as well... I no longer hear the same quality of dialogues in our contemporary period dramas. No matter how many times I watch this series, I never cease to be fascinated by the elegance of its LANGUAGE, the poetic cadence of its sentences and phrases, the spontaneity and quickness of its wit. I dare say that it has elevated the English language to a sublime level: the PHONETICS here is simply unparalleled and I have never heard the Queen's English enunciated with such consummate skill. At the risk of sounding fulsome, I was so moved by the beauty of its language that I almost wept. Even the masterful use of intonation and voice modulation is nothing short of majestic. Eventually, I ended up asking why we don't have this same quality in our contemporary TV series in this digital age? Perhaps my taste is rather archaicc but part of the answer could lie in the fact that even the English language may have evolved alongside technological advances -- the two being inversely proportional to each other (for lack of a better term). Watching "Shadows of the Tower" is much like earning the privilege of seeing the Royal Shakespeare... for free. It is sheer joy. Kudos!
You know... this comment itself is so beautiful and true that I am hit with the same pangs the show gives me. I do wonder at how television has fallen in quality
Watch the incomparable Wolf Hall.
You’ve gone beyond the risk of fulsome, friend. ❤️🇦🇺
@@Thepourdeuxchanson Wolf Hall was superb, l read the book before l watched the series and wasn't disappointed
What I really like about this series is the how the relationship between Henry VII and Elizabeth of York was built. It managed to do something Phillipa Gregory's novels could never do, without even a single sex-scene; it built a bond of understanding and eventually, deep love. At the end of the first episode, for example we see the king and queen sitting on their thrones, touching hands very formally. Then a close-up of the hands shows him taking her hand properly and squeezing it. That kind of on-screen chemistry can't be easily recreated.
Thank you for your comment. It is a good point well made.
Much in the same vein of "The First Churchill's."
In fact, isn't the actor playing Henry Tudor the same as who played John Churchill?
@@meeeka no, that was Richard Neville - this is James Maxwell.
EExactly in real life he didn’t have any mistresses because the marriage was based on trust and love it was solidified not just based on protocol but they did really love each other
If there was ever a show that needed a modern remake, it's this one. It was so good.
I love these gritty, stripped down, low-budget, 1970s BBC historical drama series. They had a real gem in 1970 with The Six Wives of Henry VIII. I saw that when the American PBS ran it around 1982. This series doesn't seem to have been as much of a hit, but then who can compare with Keith Michell as Henry VIII?
Don't forget Glenda Jackson in Elizabeth R.
@@saradecapua3264 it used to be on UA-cam but they removed it. Now you can only watch it on Daily Motion and it’s full of advertisements. I also love these old BBC shows. You can still watch Edward VII on UA-cam also and it’s a pretty good series.
The dialogue is very good.
They weren't low budget at all but costed correctly. It's really a theatre production & would have looked & played great. Do one episode per month. Straight stage productions non musicals which dominate our theatres are worth seeing.
I quite agree Jamie.
If you want pointless sex scenes between the beautiful people, there's always the Tudors (which also has the benefit of being very entertaining). This, however, is a full on Historical drama.
This is a wonderful series. To understand Henry VIII, you must understand the policies of his father.
Tudor history, especially the reigns of Henry VII and Henry VIII, is a special interest of mine and has been for over 5 decades (I'm 68 now). I prefer a series that is reasonably faithful to history snd can actually get period costuming correct to a mess like "The Tudors". I really looked forward to watching it when it first came out. If they can't even get Henry VIII right, well, you can see where the series was headed.
I like that "The Shadow of the Tower" manages to entertain as well as educate.
I couldn't get over that the actor playing Henry VIII bore no resemblance to him at all. The Tudors series does not hold a candle to the excellent work done in this series as well as The Six Wives of Henry VIII and Elizabeth R.
It was godawful
An excellent series-I wish they still made them like this. Thank you for posting.
Me, too!
Abbot: "I've heard you spoken of as a religious man." Henry VII: "I've heard the same thing of you." Brilliant dialogue.
I watched this series 3 yrs ago, 2 yrs ago, last year and again this February. Fantastic every time! Thanks MrsTudor1 for bringing us some decent historical drama.
I can almost find something great when checking out MrsTudor1's channel. I'm on my second or third go-round with this series and enjoying it just as much as the first.
I remember watching this as a young girl. The cultural standards of BBC productions then were superlative.
Henry VII was cold, but strategic. Even with human lives, he made sure to balance terror and "mercy". And Lady Beaufort would know about difficult birth
But Elizabeth Woodville knew far more about rearing children. Margaret never raised a child but presented herself as an expert
Here in Pennsylvania we have both cities.. York and Lancaster..they are seperated by about 30 miles..but in reverse.. Lancaster is north of York here.
Thank you for posting this series, it has become one of my favorites among this classic British vintage--wish there were more of these!
Henry VII: "Richard of Gloucester made him his heir, that should be enough for him"
Jasper: "But he didn't inherit!"
Henry VII "Is that my fault?"
Someone should make a thug-life meme out of that :P
Agreed.
Well...I'm damn glad I found and watched the entire series before it was nibbled away at by copyright B.S. But even in a partial form, it is still an amazing series. I wish the BBC could find it in their hearts to have mercy on those of us on THIS side of the Pond. They have SO MUCH excellent programming. We have so LITTLE.
Sean Doyle Many, MANY thanks for the excellent suggestions, Sean! Truly appreciated.
Sean Doyle I've found "Wolf Hall", ...and I plan to revel in what I can already tell is an amazing series. I owe you, Sean!;
The Beeb could start something like a missionary society, not to spread inauthentic versions of "high culture" but rather, as an effort to share rich teacups of the best bits of British high culture while managing its rationing . Like the British Institute used to do, before these was on demand streaming into the comfort of private homes.
@@brendaharper5998 Wolf Hall is excellent. I got to watch it while Amazon was running it free for those with Prime. That is well worth of watching as a binge but then most if not all of the BBC's Tudor dramas are binge-worthy.
Thank you so much for posting this series...It has become a favorite of mine. HenryVII has always been my favorite Tudor and James Maxwell does such a magnificent job in playing him here.Hard to believe Maxwell is actually American...His accent is perfect.
Totally agree. I think Henry VII is completely underrated. Part of the problem is his early reign is overshadowed by his money grasping ways of the end of the reign.
Very true!
and perhaps the murderer of the two princes in the tower
sedekiman r There is no evidence to suggest he could have been involved. The evidence is they disappeared within a few months of Richard III usurping the throne. It is true there little no direct evidence Richard had them murdered. However, there is even less evidence anyone els was involved in their disappearance. There is, however, circumstantial evidence Richard was involved.
@@brontewcat I hate Phillippa Gregory SO MUCH with her bs biased theories. HVII's "claim" was as strong as wet paper with the princes dead or alive so why murder them, he won by right of conquest(just barely at that) and solidified it by marrying EOY. RIII had alot more motive as they were his IMMEDIATE threats and would become v dangerous with age. Plenty of deposed kings had "mysteriously" disappeared or died before the princes under their usurper's care. Had he beat Henry, he would be home free bc the biggest threats were GONE. He had shitty luck as king or VERY bad karma 😏. Either way, when the princes disappeared, rather he had a hand in it or not, it was RIII fault bc they were under his care. He really was the og scheming backstabbing uncle just waiting to screw the family out of the inheritance 😂.
I'm enjoying this immensely. Many thanks for having posted such an enjoyable series. A refreshing reach back into a televised time sans the sweat, exquisitely detailed lust, and foul language that punctuate historical drama nowadays.
I love watching this series . It’s easy to see they didn’t have much of a budget but I think the acting is great and they got the history right
This is very well-done. I prefer to watch something like this which is reasonably accurate rather than something splashy sewn from whole cloth.
Thank you for uploading this fantastic series
I really enjoy this underrated but beautiful British tv series about Medieval history.
I never knew how civilised and cultured men and women were in England ruling elites and nobility as my generation see Hollywood portraying this narrative but I prefer this British version with their low budget yet they recapture and beautifully produced a dramatic performance that is so simple yet fascinating to watch.
I love the Tudors, my favourite era.
I like this episode, the ending is touching.
well done, politics being what it is,
Got too say never seen this series but I'm enjoying it can't wait for the next episode thanks for the upload
So happy I came across this on UA-cam! Love all things Tudor related.
Love these bbc Tudor dramas! So great! ELIZABETH 1 is also amazing!! Glenda Jackson is ER..it’s very good like these other ones in Tudor series!
This is also great for anyone studying English history
I love the brothers!!!! Thanks for sharing.
I absolutely adore this entire series...I've watched it over and over. I have only one wish: that the actors portraying the Stafford bros. had not chewed the scenery quite so vigorously. Both rarely spoke in a tone of voice below a shout. Perhaps they were predominantly stage actors, and were used to having to project to the back row. But still, they were excellent, and the rest of the cast, even bit players, were superb. Thank you, Mrs. Tudor, for your consistently superior programmes, and please forgive my nit picking.
Yes, you'd expect men plotting treason to be not quite so loud.
+Princess Floppy Lips True! But it WILL make them wonder what you're up to! Or what it is You're taking!!!
This was relatively early in Maurice Roeves' TV career although as you guessed he had done a lot in the theatre, especially back home in Scotland, but he has been appearing on TV for something like half a century perhaps most memorably as important supporting roles in the later UXB and Tutti Fruitti. His last role was a couple of years ago when he was pushing 80. i will grant however that he needed a bit of reignin gback for this one. It's safe to say that John Hammill isnlt as well known except possibly in the field of, err, "adult" productions - a subject about which I am pretty ignorant.
@@TellEmB290 LOL. One would hope...if nothing else, for the chances of the plotters to be able see their plan through to a successful conclusion.
@@WolfGratz He was excellent here, and I'm sad he died so early since he and the King steal every scene.
This is he best episode of the lot!
Tonights special guest. The Black, Adder!
Great series and the most histically correct I've found.
Lincoln's face at 49:04 brilliant! Great producing to put that in. He just realised it just became twice as hard for him to become king!
Really enjoying this series. :) thanks for uploading.
They didn't do outside filming back in those days? Everything seems to take place inside a studio.
Younger Stafford is mighty fine!
As I suggest above Hammill came to specialise in roles that, to put no finer a point upon it, relied on his attributes. He is pretty open about it, bless him "The sex movies ruined my career. But you know how it is, I was out of work, the birds were smashing, and I've always been a born flasher"
do yourself a favour and google John Hamill... lol you'll find plenty of interesting photos
So, on videos like this occasionally people will get a little bothered about historicity, but this episode is a pretty good example of how to reconcile the historical record with a dramatic presentation. Strictly speaking, Henry VII didn't "ban" liveries and retaining: he attempted (with below average success) to regulate the practice, basically through a licensing system, but even this modest attempt ruffled a lot of feathers, and the Earl of Oxford, despite being a loyal king's man, actually did get put on recognizance for exceeding the number of liveried followers the new law entitled him to. But of course, the whole business unfolded over, like, two decades, so a single council meeting wherein a ban on liveries is hotly debated, though not _strictly_ what happened, communicates the significance of what did happen with more clarity and intensity than you might get sifting through a pile of primary sources, assuming, of course, the dramatist knows what she's doing.
Banning private armies was brilliant because it invested all the power in the monarchy.
Thank you for the explanation, very interesting.
I'm really starting to enjoy this series. Personally I liked "The Tudors" despite its historical deviance too. I can see why George R.R. Martin drew most of his inspiration from this period in "The Song of Ice and Fire" series.
The Tudors was great entertainment. A Song Of Ice and Fire is brilliant, though. You're right, there's a lot of inspiration to be drawn from this era. Martin also manages (in the books at least) to portray them all as human beings and not one dimensional "good guys" and "bad guys".
Definitely :)
Stark and Lannister - York and Lancaster. Coincidence? I think not ;)
Daniela Staples Yeah, they had dragons and everything. Sigh.
BLTKellys
Sadly, not a real dragon.
The good old days before all British television was reduced to vapid "murder shows" set in quaint English villages where the sun always shines ('Midsomer Murders') or supposedly gritty "murder shows" set in dreary northern towns where it never stops raining ('Vera').
The Staffords talk treason very loudly indeed.
I watched a few episodes of this 2 years ago and don't remember many of these scenes ! Odd.
Pidrian subtitular la serie en español?? Plis! 🙏 Soy Argentina!!
Many of these actors I saw in bit parts, normally playing bad guys or such in serials The Sweeney, Avengers & many more and showing, that giving the chance, they could be as statuesque as Richard Burton, Peter O'Toole, Richard Harris & other luminaries . .
It's very good.
“ This is the kind of game we are playing”
Similar quality BBC 70s period dramas here on UA-cam is 'The Devil's Crown' & the civil war (British!) 'By the Sword Divided', both highly recommended.
By the sword divided was wonderful, i learned why my country was settled by “persecuted” puritans and it was just full of lovely slice of life moments
8:36 - Everyone stopped muttering and talking once the Pope's name came up, lol.
9:33 - "He's got no right to the Crown!" Well...Viscount Lovell, the Pope would seem to disagree with you, lol...
Hello Mrs Tudor, episodes 9, 10 and 11 have been blocked in the country I am in, however the other episodes are playing without any problem. Please can you fix it? I am enjoying this series,thanks for the uploads.
Oh, if only Arthur had lived!!
We hear the baby cry but never hear Elizabeth crying out in labor pains. It is possible for a woman to give birth quietly but a majority cry out. Elizabeth looks very composed for just giving birth.
+InnannasRainbow Actually in those times it was considered quite normal for a woman not to cry out when giving birth. I think it may have been from some odd notion that if a woman cried out during labour it would somehow affect the child.
+MrsDinosaur100 Not only that, but we women are supposed to be in agony during childbirth because we are 'sinful daughters of Eve' and God commanded that women should be in pain during childbirth. Therefore, don't scream and cry, you are getting what you deserve. Fuck that. It was even illegal to give the laboring mother something to ease her pain since that ever loving god said she should suffer.
+InnannasRainbow There were some really odd ideas back then, all I can say is thank fuck we all grew up.
+MrsDinosaur100 Well...not all of us.
LOL....Funny to think that the first person to use any form of pain relief during childbirth was Queen Victoria. She hated the whole pregnancy/childbirth situation, but went though it 9 times as we know, but I believe when she was in labour 8th child she used Cloroform to help ease the pain..
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Worst. Assassin. Ever.
Google Frockflicks and read their review of Episode 2.😁
A much overlooked king
The series producers made sure we knew who the main players were and how they were related. I was able to have sympathy for the Yorkists. The Tudors are shown for their cunning and the ability to take a calculated risk.
Well, well, it would seem that Henry VII had a bone or two to pick with the Church as well. Actually, while the split between Rome and the English Church happened during the reign of Henry VIII, I sense that the relationship of the two was uncomfortable at best, especially after Henry II had Becket murdered.
You can actually see the roots of Henry VIII's attitude toward the Church, though of course, he took it much farther than his father would have ever been likely to do.
The church was, by the early 16th century, increasingly corrupt. The Borgias had been in power ffs !! Historically, popes have been known to be warriors who used armed forces to push their agendas...agendas that included self-serving ideals. They have held power by suppressing anything which threatened that power, particularly: the advancement of human knowledge (if the populace is ignorant, they will follow ridiculous doctrine more easily). Keep em hungry, keep em stupid, keep em bowing and scraping....
Friction between the monarch and the self-asserted "rights and powers" of the Roman bishop date back to Damascus I who created the myth of papal primacy and were entrenched by the Investiture Conspiracy. They assuredly involved tensions with other peoples - the French and the HRE, in particular. The fact is that Romans 13 acknowledged ministry to which all, including the real church, is subject. The Latin rite has no power of excommunication - Christ alone has the keys to Hades.
It was always there. One can not serve two masters and the king needed educated men, but the church held the monopoly on that. There is a reason the Tudors built schools.
@@gm2407 Very true.
@alecblunden8615 but Christ gave St Peter the keys of heaven, no? Besides which, excommunication is about exclusion from the sacraments of the church, not from heaven per se.
Was this the only television james maxwell did cant recall him in anything else
The title "Your Majesty" wasn't used until the reign of Henry VIII. Henry VII would have been addressed as "Your Grace."
+Robert E. Waters Sir, you stole my comment. Well done!
;) Thank you!
Strictly speaking, the first King of England who was called "Majesty" was Richard II, but that was his idea. It might be the person who wrote the script simply didn't know better.
I was just going to say that Richard II used it, but Bolingbroke dropped it. Wolsey suggested it to Henry VIII because Francis used it, or something like that.
I wonder if Prince Charles could be persuaded to adopt the title 'Your Grace' if and when he takes the throne? I think that it would be preferable.
Thank you for your observation on this point ; I find it very interesting indeed.
41:09 -- Can you make out what Humphrey Stafford is saying to Thomas?
“Goodbye Thomas”
@@TheLadyPlantagenet thanks, I meant right before that. You hear the "King has pardoned Thomas Stafford" then Humphrey turns to Thomas and says.....
@@clarkindee Thank Heaven for That
@@clarkindee “no time to be p-something”
Oh lord I didn’t expect to get a reply since I saw you commented 6 years ago :0
This is not Elizabeth R though it comes up under a search for that and the thumbnail says Elizabeth R.
It's a falsehood not near the excellent level of Jackson's series...Gods Death!
@@mxylpx yikes !! I though that Miss Jackson was too angry all of the time. Elizabeth was strong, but strove to be beloved. I doubt that she was constantly so strident !
This is not Elizabeth R it's shadow of the tower
Used to think Henry VII was one of the 'better ' Tudors (if there was such a thing!) However he turns out to be a sneaky, mendacious, meretricious and brutal as his psychopathic son! And they call the Plantagenets 'bloody!'
you won't find a successful medieval monarch to whom those adjectives do not apply.
Yes you have to manage relationships in politics, they are assets to gather power. But the sin is using someone as a mere means.
I prefer well-made factual productions such as this. The HBO Tudors made me puke.
Me, too. The whole thing was a muddle from beginning to the end.
You are right. The whole series was an embarrassment.
I thought it was Showtime?
@@AmethystEyes It was Showtime.
I still can't bring myself to watch "The Tudors". First of all, the actor that played Henry VIII looked nothing like him, even when he was young. The LEAST they could have done was to find an actor with red hair! And the costuming was a botch, too. I know what the style of clothing looked like throughout Henry VIII's reign and the clothing--especially the men's--looked more Elizabethan than Henrician.
LONG LIVE YORKSHIRE!! HEART Of the NORTH !!&:)
Where are episodes 9,10,and 11, the series is incomplete without them
Where are eps 9, 10,11,12 and 13?
This isn't fan fiction . net, by the way.
It seems to suit the part they're playing to be portrayed as young adventurers, but after watching this I was surprised to find that the Stafford brothers were not by any stretch young men in 1486. Sir Humprey Stafford was born in 1427, and Thomas in 1430, making them 59 and 56 respectively. Google Sir Humprey STAFFORD Knight - Freepages - Ancestry.com.
+Titus Lucretius Carus I wikied Sir Humphrey and you're right about him. What about Thomas? Did he go home and die in his bed?
+tnecklover According to one site I've seen, Thomas "promised to behave and was set free." sites.google.com/site/stedwardsa2level/home/tudor-rebellions/rebellions/lovell-rebellion-1486
After that, I can find nothing. I suppose he behaved in quiet obscurity, and likely was never in service to the king, for why would anyone at the court want to advance him in any way? He was allowed to live, the best he could hope for. I can't find any date of death.
I see. Yes, in those days, to die peacefully in ones bed was a great thing back then. Yes most people back then did, when you think about it.
Does anybody know how I can get the mini series of the six wives of Henry VIII? I can't seem to get it on UA-cam.
Tudor was right to go to Northern England early in his reign to prove that he was not afraid.
intresting nuance from history* the war of the cousins-roses, everyone was related to edward III king of england.., the yorkists and lancastrians were not the only ones related directly or had a claim to the throne, philippa gregory,david starkey and many tv shows like spanish princess,tudors,white queen are popular depictions of this era...
the Tudors dynasty started in wales....they did not come from nowhere or where common-poor or provincial nobodies.... suddendly becoming monarchs of england, as is often depicted., everyone knows the later tudor dynasty of english kings, but not their Welsh origins..
tudor=tewdar originated in Penmynydd (in Welsh: Tuduriaid Penmynydd) were a noble and aristocratic family, connected with the village of Penmynydd in Anglesey, North Wales,[2] who were descent from Marchudd ap Cynan, Lord of Rhos and Rhodri the Great, King of Gwynedd (Kingdom of gwynedd founded in 5th century* Gwynedd Romano-British kingdom until 1216*
affinity with Rome survived long after the Empire retreated from Britain, particularly with the use of Latin in writing and sustaining the Christian religion, gwynedd kings were titled *kings of the britons* as depicted by neninus,historia britanum and other medieval sources,...st gildas...
so tudor propaganda aside, henry VII claim to the throne* through conquest on the battle of bosworth* and his cousin Richard III who also had *romano british welsh ancestry too
Princess Gwladus, daughter of Llywelyn ab Iorwerth king of gwynedd and all wales married
Lord Ralph de Mortimer... the powerful anglo-norman dynasty... loyal ally of King Henry III of England and at times an enemy, at times an ally, of Llywelyn ap Gruffudd, Prince of Wales.
so if welsh-british-european is anything, its even better than any game of thrones,chronicles of narania,lord of the rings, the witcher that were all inspired by wales ...the land of the dragons...
The last 50 years of Catholic England.
Not really; Henry VIII lived a died a Catholic, just not a Roman Catholic. Edward VI made protestantism the official religion of England.
@@shellieeyre8758 Yes, but effectively his Act of Primacy by which he abrogated the power of the Pope and his dissolutio of monasteries signaled the effective end of Catholicism, in England. Edward VI put a legal stamp on this suppression of Catholicism started by his father.
@@peterasp1968 Roman catholicism, yes - catholicism no; Henry would never have called himself a protestant.
I hesitate to completely concur. Partially, yes. But I would rather suppose that the Old Faith only truly faced extirpation from the throne with the failure of James II to overcome the invasion forces of William of Orange, allied to a Whig party as intent on casting the crown out of its remaining executive privileges as it was to amplify the claims of the City & the pulpit to control of the realm.
Stagey but brilliant
Can you put some episode of VIII?
This is really well acted, in a way you don't really find anymore. Excellent casting. However, it does get a little, 'grand,' even for a production about an English Queen. And for the prototype of the saavy player queen, she sure does carp alot.
Agreed. I did not like this portrayal of Elizabeth of York. She was reported to have been charming, warm, and kind. Not snooty and shrill.
@ 3:54
quite literally that between life and death, in this case.
Hi, MrsTudor1! Episode 1 appears to have been deleted. :(
It has indeed. They're saying it's a duplicate video. However, I'm going to chance my arm a little and re-upload the episode tomorrow. Thanks for the warning and apologies for leaving it so long.
Why is this not Elizabeth R??
The first one has been removed.
Great.drama..but..very.very.few.men.where.clean.shaven...the.clothes.are.far.to.clean
It was Showtime, snob.
How historically accurate is this? I'm seriously asking because Henry VII's reign isn't really my forte. If it's even half-true, he was one clever son of a bitch.
That Guy He might have been ruthless but he was shrewd, calculating and clever. He made extortion an art form. Hence, the coffers of England got rich, which his son, Henry VIII, just squandered away. Henry VIII was like a spoiled brat that everything was handed unto him like a silver platter.
That Guy This is quite accurate. :)
@@anja1627 Yes, from my study of Tudor history I'd say it's very accurate. And Margaret Beaufort certainly didn't raise a stupid child. Fun fact: Margaret gave birth to Henry VII at only 13. The experience left her insides so messed up that she was never able to have another child.
Your assessment of Henry VIII as a spoiled brat is spot-on. His reign, especially the last ten or fifteen years, was basically one long temper tantrum. I could picture Henry VIII looking at his son from the next world and being totally appalled. I know that if I'd been Henry VII, I would been doing continual face palms.
@@harrietharlow9929 Margaret Beaufort didn't bring him up - they were separated from When Henry was a little boy and then he spent 14 years in exile before Bosworth.
@@shellieeyre8758 I stand corrected.
I guess this was just the style of a lot of scores back then... because honestly, the music sounds like the beginning of a Bruce Lee movie.
Henry VII was not well loved and increased taxation hugely! He was known as a miser and people spoke of him as the "winter king".
King Arthur who was betrothed to Catherine of Aragon. Who the the Ferdinand’s insisted the death of the Earl of Warwick to solidify there daughters hand . Ie to ensure there was not a future rebellion against Henry Tudor legitimacy of King . This came to haunt Catherine of Aragon. Who went through a tumultuous life once in England. I’m not religious yet Catherine was devout , I wonder if she thought it was her punishment
The series seemed to loose a bit of steam after episode 7
I felt the same way. But, Henry's reign became work a day at this point historically.
The costumes ate wonderful, except for some of the men's dreadful wigs
Cynthia Snowden I don't think they are wigs, it's the 1970s and long hair was de rigeur
+Cynthia Snowden. Trust me one day younger people not yet born will look at the hairstyles and looks of today and make a similar comment to yours about how ridiculous they look. Fashion is always ridiculous in hindsight.
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Was going to watch but half of it is blocked. Sorry can't subscribe.
very enjoyable series.....phillipa gregory *feminist* apporoach in:
white queen,white princess and the pseudo historically inacurate spanish princess, even CW Reign make tudor-stuart history entertaining...
the shadow power* behind the throne, was mater rex aka Duchess of Bedford:Lady Magaret Beaufort , who was either *(close or distant) too all the relatives of King Edward III,
including Duchess Cecily of York: the grandmother of Queen Elizabeth of York...
tudour propaganda, was so succesfull the merging of the symbols of york and lancaster and the beaufort dynasty symbol on the houses of parliment....
also the two other forgotten about or ignored in history figures, who during the reign of Henry IV after Richard II his cousin was deposed...
owen glendower* prince of wales was a distant relative of Henry Tudor, and Duke Henry Percy too Elizabeth of York.... a matter of close and distant relatives fighting for the crown* , the inspiration for GAME OF THRONES......
the banks of braavos is a pseduo dipiction of the city and corportation of London and the Lord Mayor London role..., London started long long before any english monarchs or any war of the cousins-roses even started.....
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Punch of Spider's Shadow. White Dragon Society. Covid 19?
Ugh James Maxwell wasn't good looking but is he ever sexy.
He is perhaps not classically handsome, but he is certainly attractive, with a beautiful voice. Very sexy in scene where he first meets Elizabeth!😁
i have to admit I that I find the mens hairstyles very feminine, so obviously styled (as if they have just left the hairdresser) and the not so subtle us of make up and their mannerisms make them appear very camp and as for Elizabeth of York - stuffed Barbie doll - but that is just my opinion - the story still is very intriguing
Very enjoyable but: apart from the King & Elizabeth & a few clerics: hugely overacted.
It would be better if it was more historically accurate!
Great series but I wish it had some sex and romance it's a little dull and constant talking . I guess the English feel the need to fill every m0ment with constant dithering about. They never take a breath or take in some silence. It feels like a filmed play with the actors projecting out to an audience instead of eachothereach other. But I love the history and Elizabeth of York is gorgeous .
This was first broadcast in 1972...and is therefor not terribly modern. Think back to that era....television censors would not have tolerated sex scenes or lewdness.
I want Thomas to be my King :P
search for John Hamill ;)