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  • @hillarytruong5397
    @hillarytruong5397 11 років тому +54

    I love this documentary so much. I think Edward VI is really overlooked in history.

  • @loriburnip1133
    @loriburnip1133 11 років тому +21

    I agree! It's wonderful to see more documentaries on the Tudors. I love Tudor history.

  • @reinadegrillos
    @reinadegrillos 9 років тому +124

    I love how Dr. Starkey leads us into History like in a magnificent novel.

  • @megan2478
    @megan2478 11 років тому +19

    Love Starkey - one of the best historians I've seen - his descriptions are fantastic...makes you feel like you were there :0)

  • @nekminute1038
    @nekminute1038 10 років тому +41

    Excellent documentary I love David Starkey he is a master historian. I like seeing the real Edward for who he was not just this helpless sickly boy he is stereotypically portrayed as. The real Edward was more of a lively, fiesty and head strong young king.

  • @nassauguy48
    @nassauguy48 12 років тому +44

    Ironic in that Jane Seymour, the mother of Edward, was a devout Catholic who had been loyal to Catherine of Aragon and helped orchestrate the downfall of Anne Boleyn. However, her ambitious brothers embraced Protestantism largely for political purposes, and of course influenced young Edward in the process. Also ironic in that Mary had been the more doting of Edward's sisters, and she had been like a second mother to him.

  • @DonnaLDuvall
    @DonnaLDuvall 10 років тому +150

    I just love this narrator. He has such true authority and confidence. Here in America, we have lost those values completely in our t.v. What we have is crap and lies.

    • @barbarab3255
      @barbarab3255 10 років тому +42

      We have those idiot Kardashians. When did that pass as entertainment?! I love this narrator too

  • @markbell2473
    @markbell2473 9 років тому +55

    Unusual no mention of Dudley, Duke of Northumberland. He was very much a regent during 1551-1553 as Somerset was previous. Also, I believe he was the mastermind in orchestrating the Lady Jane Grey succession, with Edward's backing as well. Northumberland was executed by Mary a month after she took the throne.

  • @snappy452
    @snappy452 12 років тому +47

    I will watch anything narrated by David Starkey.

  • @alisonbrowning9620
    @alisonbrowning9620 11 років тому +31

    Edward would have been quite a despotic King had he lived.

  • @lanpingpug
    @lanpingpug 11 років тому +143

    I like David Starkey for the drama and majesty but I like Lucy Worsley for the fun, cheekiness and sometimes poignancy.

    • @blackmumba111
      @blackmumba111 10 років тому +39

      They look at very different subjects (generally speaking).
      I like David Starkey for shows about what the kings and queens were doing and historical action.
      I watch Lucy when I want to see the more average experience. I really enjoy that she focuses on things that are neglected in history books (wardrobe, beds, furniture, general and royal architecture).
      In short, Starkey is more like a gallery of paintings whereas Lucy is more about the gritty details (like how they wiped their bottoms!) and creating an accurate and deep visualization that includes all senses (smells, tastes, textures, sights, sounds, etc.).
      They are both wonderful!

  • @glutinousmaximus
    @glutinousmaximus 12 років тому +4

    Shades of Blackadder!
    Thanks for the upload Docufans1. Much appreciated!

  • @displacerkatsidhe
    @displacerkatsidhe 12 років тому +18

    Fantastic doc! Don't normally get info about Edward. Usually it's down to "Edward VI was then king, but he was a sickly boy, and died at 15."
    Thank you for posting it!

  • @marybarton2011
    @marybarton2011 11 років тому +25

    To think that a 13 year old had all this intelligence. Wow!

  • @rentaghostokish5628
    @rentaghostokish5628 10 років тому +154

    Will people stop inanely "judging" the actions of this time period as "weird" or "idiosyncratic"! it was 5 centuries ago, ideas and attitudes were very different. What the hell do you think people will be saying about our times 5 centuries from now??

  • @loriburnip1133
    @loriburnip1133 11 років тому +28

    You hear a lot about Henry& his wives, also Mary & especially Elizabeth. However you almost never hear about edward, unless its in a documentary about henry, mary or Elizabeth. so it's nice to see something about him, thanks!

  • @deboraharmstrong3002
    @deboraharmstrong3002 10 років тому +7

    I'd love to get a closer look at the clock at 1:23 24 hours, the zodiac. days, months, Quarters of the moon . . . beautiful.
    Does anyone know where I could find more info/pictures?

    • @Victoriacariad
      @Victoriacariad 9 років тому +7

      Deborah Armstrong Oh dear...10 months later! But it's the 'Astronomical clock' which sits above the gatehouse at Hampton Court palace, London. Favourite home of Henry VIII, and the place where Jane Seymour died.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampton_Court_astronomical_clock Better late than never :)

  • @AlexdrinaArmstrong94
    @AlexdrinaArmstrong94 11 років тому +6

    Edward was a little fireball!! Much like his father he would not give way.

  • @KoriH94
    @KoriH94 11 років тому +13

    Very strange by modern standards, yes. But if the actions of Henry VIII are put in the context of the War of the Roses, only ended by his father's accession, his fixation on gaining on a male heir can be better understood. Particularly since it had been unheard of at this point in history for a woman to succeed to the throne.

  • @EnglishRose719
    @EnglishRose719 12 років тому +10

    Not to mention it was his youngest daughter who became the heir one would be proud of.

  • @susanmarie8983
    @susanmarie8983 10 років тому +112

    Henry VIII was obsessed with having a son. Women still get blamed for giving birth to the "wrong" gender baby and yet it is the male who determines the gender.

  • @Aarchione
    @Aarchione 10 років тому +14

    Very interesting. I've always wondered why Edward didn't designate Elizabeth as his successor...she would have seen it as an injustice to Mary and England in general even though she was Protestant as well.
    Thanks for the video :)

    • @lexigrimhaive
      @lexigrimhaive 9 років тому +16

      He considered her and Mary to both be bastards, and therefore ineligible to succeed.

  • @loriburnip1133
    @loriburnip1133 11 років тому +34

    it really seems like an unlikely series of circumstances had to happen in order for Elizabeth to become Queen. First Edward had to die without an heir, same goes for mary, the chances of neither of them having children was slim. Then she had to survive after the thomas wyatt plot against mary, it's a miracle mary didn't have her executed. then mary had to die too. seems to me it's almost fate that Elizabeth got the throne, I'm not one for superstition, but it seems like she was meant to be queen

  • @12from121
    @12from121 12 років тому +2

    seriously awesome

  • @TheKeyser94
    @TheKeyser94 10 років тому +27

    Edward really should have leave the throne to Mary or Elizabeth, by giving the throne to Jane Grey, he firmed her death sentence.

  • @James-qr4sd
    @James-qr4sd 11 років тому +5

    Elizabeth's mother was beheaded. Henry did not divorce her as stated in this documentary; running stamp time: 5:32.

    • @cnrkrky7316
      @cnrkrky7316 9 років тому +7

      not yet She was divorced and then behaded. It was seen, at the time, legally tricky to have a legal Queen executed, regardless of the charges which she was charged and convicted with.

    • @PanBoleyn
      @PanBoleyn 9 років тому +13

      not yet Actually Anne Boleyn's marriage was annulled just like Katherine of Aragon's, a couple of days prior to her execution. That was what made Elizabeth a bastard - the death of Anne would not have done that. So what was stated was technically true; Elizabeth was bastardized following a 'divorce'. Said legalities were just followed by judicial murder.

  • @InkyPages
    @InkyPages 11 років тому +5

    To Henry VIII, it was all about furthering his dynasty as far as I can see. He was a second son, his older brother Arthur died at age 15. Henry probably knew how tentative anyone's grip on the throne was. Princes of Wales, generally would have "learned to rule" as it were in Wales, having their own household there. London was usually seen as too likely a threat to royal children, from rebellion and disease so royal children would have lived on estates that had been granted to them at birth.

  • @BDollScream
    @BDollScream 11 років тому

    Great doc. Thanks!

  • @gmaureen
    @gmaureen 12 років тому +4

    Very strange by modern standards. Henry wanted a son more than anything, as evidenced by his behavior towards his first 2 wives, but when he gets that son he rarely sees him. Royalty and all its idosyncratic behaviors, throughout history, are sometimes more than the average mind can comprehend.

  • @hecateives2240
    @hecateives2240 11 років тому +4

    i love the music at 01:42 what is it called?

    • @miralong4108
      @miralong4108 9 років тому +1

      Alexandra Lundgren Gregorian Chant?

  • @PreppyAnglican
    @PreppyAnglican 10 років тому +8

    gmaureen In reality, Henry VIII keeping such a great distance from Edward when he was young was a sensible precaution and not out of step with his own upbringing (Henry's older brother, Arthur, had been raised in his own house, apart from his siblings & his parents).
    Another documentary "Inside the Body of Henry VIII," postulates that Henry VIII contracted smallpox and malaria during the course of his life. The fact that his malaria became chronic (i.e. would reappear several times after the initial illness) likely fueled Henry VIII's obsessive concern over his (and his only son's) health.
    In light of the poor sanitary conditions in Tudor England, separating Edward from the rest of the court (who would constantly surround King Henry VIII) was likely the best chance they had of protecting him from infectious diseases, even if their efforts ultimately failed.

    • @jackyborchtlombeek456
      @jackyborchtlombeek456 10 років тому +4

      I did watch it and disagreed. The evidence is too flimsy.

    • @bunney3272
      @bunney3272 10 років тому +7

      Henry VIII never expected to die when Edward was 9. He never expected Edward would die at 15. After all he arranged a marriage between Edward and Mary, Queen of Scots when they were 15 and 10 respectively.

  • @stephanieivey8149
    @stephanieivey8149 11 років тому +6

    this is sooo awesome.....i just recently found out thru ancestery searching.....lady jane seymour was my cousin....also prince edward....and so on...makes me feel proud!!

  • @AssinnippiJack
    @AssinnippiJack 10 років тому +12

    No mention of John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland. Interesting as he is cast by some historians as a power hungry intriguer and by others as a loyal Protestant council member who was caught holding the bag when Mary won the day. Who was the real John Dudley?

  • @phtevlin
    @phtevlin 11 років тому +5

    Ultimately the succession went to the descendants of Henry VIII's elder sister Margaret. If Mary and Elizabeth Tudor were to be cast aside, then the next in line would have been Mary Stuart (Queen of Scotland), and not Jane Grey.

  • @LanceGyldenstierneIV
    @LanceGyldenstierneIV 12 років тому +5

    Henry rarely saw Edward because of the boy's sickly nature. Henry's duties were in the court and he didn't want to risk his only heir's health by having Edward there with him.

  • @SuperGreatSphinx
    @SuperGreatSphinx 11 років тому +3

    God Save The King!

  • @bunney3272
    @bunney3272 10 років тому +6

    If Edward lived on who would be his consort

    • @alisonbrowning9620
      @alisonbrowning9620 9 років тому +12

      Sir George Severn I always think he and Jane Grey would have gone well together, they'd have been discussing the bible and philosophy well into the night by candle light.

  • @SilkyDynamite
    @SilkyDynamite 10 років тому +16

    6:57 Dr Richard Cox?.. Really? Dick Cox?...

  • @Wattablast50
    @Wattablast50 9 років тому +4

    Do you ever wonder how DNA then may have changed much of history as we know it? I am sure it would have been quite interesting to say the least.

  • @madeleinebrandville7346
    @madeleinebrandville7346 11 років тому +4

    Why doesn't he mention the Duke of Northumberland?
    Also, I wouldn't call Mary "unknown." She's known as "Bloody Mary." I would say the unknown Tudors are Henry VII and Edward VI, but maybe he couldn't come up with a different name for a documentary that encompasses both Edward and Mary.

  • @heliotropezzz333
    @heliotropezzz333 11 років тому +3

    The youngest person ever to be crowned king was Henry VI who was 1 month old if I recall correctly.

  • @44scd
    @44scd 12 років тому

    enjoyed it very much, but at 4:30 where did they get the baseball..................

  • @InnannasRainbow
    @InnannasRainbow 11 років тому

    I agree, I can hardly find anything on Edward VI.

  • @Hot1000Forever
    @Hot1000Forever 11 років тому +7

    "sometimes more than the average mind can comprehend"????? please. these people were human beings just like the rest of us, not gods with elavated minds beyond understanding.

  • @popcult
    @popcult 12 років тому

    Truly great documentary-thank you.Is there a DVD?

  • @violeticus1323
    @violeticus1323 11 років тому

    Bravo!

  • @pavlickrobert
    @pavlickrobert 12 років тому

    Where is this DVD available? I checked Amazon and Discovery Channel and can't find it.

  • @cailleanmc
    @cailleanmc 11 років тому

    What is the light music used in this video?

  • @flyingjustacorps1990
    @flyingjustacorps1990 10 років тому +2

    @ 7:00
    yeah, having Dr. Cox as anyone's teacher is bad news....

  • @awesomealligator1015
    @awesomealligator1015 9 років тому +6

    Oh my god, Tutankhamun also inherited the throne as a nine year old, so there must be a connection between him and Edward VI

  • @j0nnyism
    @j0nnyism 12 років тому +2

    henry wanted a son to settle questions on inheritance, not to play happy families.

  • @Thor13332
    @Thor13332 12 років тому +5

    I think Edward VI was well educated but as a child he lacked the wordly experience in politics and people to temper his actions.

  • @Lizmik1980
    @Lizmik1980 10 років тому +18

    Here is a link to my own article on Mary's mother, Catherine of Aragon, which deals with the question of whether or not she was truthful regarding her virginity at the time of her marriage to Henry VIII: www.crackedhistory.com/june-18-1529-catherine-aragon-lied/

    • @yourstruly256
      @yourstruly256 9 років тому

      Interesting article. Very informative and an interesting perspective on Catherine.

  • @alfwwarbic5360
    @alfwwarbic5360 11 років тому +2

    Edward the 6 was poisoned

  • @jlex1049
    @jlex1049 10 років тому +4

    How was that tutor allowed to beat the prince?! Henry was the kind to kill anyone who dared threaten his son! Crazy...

  • @whereismyxanax
    @whereismyxanax 12 років тому +1

    stop cutting off heads! for the love of ....!

  • @wetteefun
    @wetteefun 11 років тому +1

    wrong music

  • @moochimichimoo
    @moochimichimoo 10 років тому +10

    Jane Seymour was never crowned Queen.

    • @blackmumba111
      @blackmumba111 10 років тому +24

      She was, however, acknowledged as such.

  • @meriyanaekasari5590
    @meriyanaekasari5590 11 років тому +1

    are you seriously?

  • @alfwwarbic5360
    @alfwwarbic5360 11 років тому

    Edward the vi was poisoned

  • @The3CoolChilies
    @The3CoolChilies 11 років тому +3

    This was homework and i got really bored