Jim Cornette's Memories Of Buzz Sawyer

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  • @IImitateVince
    @IImitateVince 3 роки тому +56

    Arn Anderson never says anything negative about people. So when Arn complained on the podcast... I knew Buzz must be pretty bad for Arn to complain.

    • @MichaelSmith-fq6hz
      @MichaelSmith-fq6hz Рік тому +5

      Yeah, Buzz used to do the old wrestling school scam. Undertaker gave him money, and Buzz skipped town. POS by most accounts.

    • @Matt-cr4vv
      @Matt-cr4vv Рік тому +5

      Evidently he scammed magnum ta out of $10,000 before he skipped town. He told magnum it cost $10,000 to get licensed to be a wrestler and then skipped town per the recent dark side episode. Clearly dude was a big POS

    • @mkl62
      @mkl62 Рік тому +1

      He kicked Buzz in his mouth one night.

  • @michaelrubin8091
    @michaelrubin8091 5 років тому +46

    Buzz sawyer was legit crazy

  • @karlepaul6632
    @karlepaul6632 5 років тому +23

    "I don't mean to speak ill of the dead..." immediately proceeds to speaking ill of the dead....lol #JimFuckingRules !! 😁👍🏻

  • @TheeCoachg
    @TheeCoachg 6 років тому +62

    So I just had an idea for a Netflix Series. Jim plays a wrestling promotor from the 1970s who runs a southern territory but as “Mainstream Wrestling” reaches its peak,the territories begin to fade. My thought is that it could actually be set in the 70s OR it could be set now in which he plays a former wrestling promotor who the “mainstream wrestling” ran out of business and now he finds himself trying to open an independent promotion but being that “Rasslin” guy its harder & harder to adjust. I see the humor kinda being like The Office,Cornette ranting and screaming at wrestlers about how great the past was.This would be a funny series

    • @JasonL77
      @JasonL77 5 років тому +3

      Coachg that would be a great show.

    • @dougmcconkey5126
      @dougmcconkey5126 5 років тому +5

      Hell I'd watch it

    • @joemassey1338
      @joemassey1338 5 років тому +1

      GMOW starring Jim "Corny " Cornett and Brian Last as the announcer

    • @madamefeast4824
      @madamefeast4824 4 роки тому +4

      I think a straight forward yet crazy drama would be cool. Get Paul Thomas Anderson to direct it and staring Russell Crowe lol w Pheonix as Russo

    • @jrsmith3344
      @jrsmith3344 3 роки тому

      I'd watch that in a heartbeat!

  • @SonnyBubba
    @SonnyBubba 2 роки тому +6

    “Why are you hitting me with that racket?!”
    “That’s a receipt, Buzz.”

  • @studogable
    @studogable 3 роки тому +11

    Buzz Sawyer and Dick Slater as babyfaces?
    I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around that.

    • @tjred3995
      @tjred3995 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, and remember, Ole Anderson was also a face at this time. I didn't buy those three as faces at that time, and I still don't. Now, Slater, was a solid babyface when he was a rookie; but those days had long past by 1985.

    • @mkl62
      @mkl62 Рік тому

      Ole had gone back heel that March. His quiet but scary promo on Thunderbolt Patterson was a classic.@@tjred3995

    • @buckster2575
      @buckster2575 4 місяці тому

      Yeah I agree 💯%

  • @geneticfreak4394
    @geneticfreak4394 2 роки тому +2

    Jim. The rodeo arena in Unadilla is still there. It is actually a suburb of Macon, Ga.
    The only thing that has changed in Unadilla is the calendar. LOL.

  • @diggitydave75438
    @diggitydave75438 6 років тому +30

    Buzz Sawyer did have a pretty damn good career for being as short as it was. The Georgia territory was where ge achieved the majority of his success. He was part of the original Legion of Doom stable for a short time. He had an epic feud with Tommy Rich that has reached infamous levels. He had an underrated feud with Roddy Piper as well, that involved Piper putting on one of the most slept on, yet great promos ever (it's on youtube and it could not be done today). Sawyer had a really good run, in Mid-South Wrestling as well. I also thought his WCW run was extremely underrated as well. It wasn't just him in WCW that I thought was underrated but the entire stable and angle he was involved in there. J-Tex Corporation was great. You have Gart Hart managing (i know it was not his best work....but it's still Gary Hart), then you have Terry Funk, Great Muta, Buzz Sawyer, Dick Slater & The Dragonmaster (Kendo Nagasaki...not the World of sport version...he was a great trainer who was one of Stu Hart's top trainers in "The Dungeon"). How can you hate on any stable that features that lineup? He may have been a dick in real life, but he was a very good heel and could put on a good match, and he was believable as the "Mad Dog". Another promising performer that had his run and life cut short by drugs.

    • @dannyfelts2045
      @dannyfelts2045 4 роки тому +1

      Buzz Sawyer was not part of the Legion of Doom, Paul Ellering was booked to manage Sawyer through his short feud with Roddy Piper and to finish up Buzz's feud with Tommy Rich. ie (Last battle of Atlanta.)

    • @durden2480
      @durden2480 3 роки тому +1

      Ole was sweet on him.

    • @douglaspatrick868
      @douglaspatrick868 3 роки тому +3

      If it wasn't for the substance abuse and myriad other personal issues he had seemingly no interest in addressing or seeking help from others for Buzz would have been a big presence and highly figured in everywhere he went and had the storied 20+ year career. But when you combine all that mess with that famous winning personality you always hear about with him it all went pretty much how it was going to go. Sucks he wasn't willing to make a few changes for the better, his life and career would have been longer and better for it and he would be remembered well or at least better. Instead he's thought of for being a drug addled asshole bully who squandered his talent and potential pretty much full stop.

    • @tomwigal8856
      @tomwigal8856 3 роки тому +2

      Buzz and draft defeated the roadway is to win the NWA Georgia tag team championship in Canton Ohio I lived in Akron I wanted to go my dad was too tired he said no way they're going to let a title change hands in a rinky-dink town like Canton Ohio until Saturday night golden sole comes onto TV it says we have New World Tag Team Champions and they won the titles in Canton Ohio I was however there in Canton Ohio the night that Buzz Sawyer had his ridiculous headgear pulled off his head by Wildfire Tommy Rich but from everything I heard he was a miserable piece of s*** but that is

    • @Nomnomnom165
      @Nomnomnom165 2 роки тому

      He was a shit trainer for the undertaker

  • @Doctor-Stoppage
    @Doctor-Stoppage 2 роки тому +5

    Buzz Sawyer Death
    On February 7, 1992, Buzz Sawyer died from heart failure due to a drug overdose. He was 32 years old and living in Sacramento at the time.

  • @Sargebri
    @Sargebri 6 років тому +48

    Too bad they didn't bring up how he screwed Undertaker and Magnum TA. They hired the dude to train them, but he wound up taking their money.

    • @CraigSmithII
      @CraigSmithII 6 років тому +22

      Brian Washington
      Undertaker told a story about Buzz taking his money when he was supposed to be trained by him. He said that Buzz bullshitted him along with others about working out in the ring because they were tired of doing the shoot stretches & all the basic stuff
      So the next couple of days,Taker showed up at his house to get his money back & Buzz was gone but he left his pet Rotweiler's at the house,so Taker said he took them on principle & made them his dogs

    • @greedyd5524
      @greedyd5524 6 років тому +4

      UT is still whining bout this 30 years later

    • @CraigSmithII
      @CraigSmithII 6 років тому +4

      Greedy D
      Naw Taker told that story back in a 2003 WWE Magazine Special on Undertaker. He passed that issue with Buzz

    • @Jim-Tuner
      @Jim-Tuner 6 років тому +2

      They probably got off good just losing their money.

    • @UMOGrunt
      @UMOGrunt 6 років тому +6

      Brian Washington
      He mentioned him fucking Magnum in another podcast.

  • @michaelfrazia4569
    @michaelfrazia4569 3 роки тому +6

    buzz and wildfire was the rivalry that drew me into wrestling...as a kid growing up on long Island, we got cable in 1981...so any days I wasnt outside playing( kids actually played outside in those days) I was watching Mtv and tbs...watching Gordon solie interview buzz sawyer reeled me in...then Tommy wildfire rich sealed the deal. he was the perfect baby face and buzz the perfect heel. Those old shows from the omni in Atlanta were classic...rassling was amazing in those days.....even as a 7 year old I knew buzz was legit crazy.

    • @donwilcox728
      @donwilcox728 2 роки тому

      As far as my childhood growing up in NJ (born 1969) compared to your's......
      Ditto my friend. I wouldn't change a word.

    • @KHLB516
      @KHLB516 Рік тому

      Was a Long Island kid born in 82 myself who was outside all the time but I didn’t have cable until like 96-97 so never got to see a lot of or most of this stuff. I only really watched WWF as they had far more VHS in stores and were on 1 of the 13 channels I had until I was 15 or so and paid for my own cable. Every now n then an older kid in neighborhood would tape a WCW/NWA show and lend it to me but mostly only WWF was available to us kids who didn’t have video games and played outside all day every day until dinner time

    • @michaelfrazia4569
      @michaelfrazia4569 Рік тому

      @@KHLB516 the early days of cable were great..especially with Georgia wrestling getting pumped up here by Ted Turner

  • @noahlsmith2488
    @noahlsmith2488 4 роки тому +24

    I remember Undertaker and Stone Cold talking about how awful Buzz Sawyer was as a human being.

    • @durden2480
      @durden2480 3 роки тому +3

      That’s what sucks about buzz, he was a great talent

    • @LuisReyes-pb4dt
      @LuisReyes-pb4dt 3 роки тому +3

      Buzz Sawyer was in the same class as Jimmy Snuka. Great talents but dirtbag human beings

    • @charlesgomez4495
      @charlesgomez4495 2 роки тому

      And they were not gonna do nothing about it.

    • @redfoley9608
      @redfoley9608 2 роки тому

      He didn’t give a fuck

    • @kevinhenry4047
      @kevinhenry4047 Рік тому +1

      I know about Buzz scamming Taker but what did Austin say about him?

  • @LoganCharlesII
    @LoganCharlesII 5 років тому +3

    Unadilla, GA is not a suburb of Atlanta. It's 120 miles from Atlanta; actually closer to Macon.

  • @vgordonw
    @vgordonw 6 років тому +18

    What you may not realize is that Buzz, Bruce Woyan was his real name, was not scared of anything and loved to cause havoc in real life. Almost suicidal in a way. I did his graphic design for his school and he paid me. He never stiffed me but would stiff anybody he thought might protest just so he could kick the shit out of them. His wife was incredibly beautiful and devoted. Even so, he made the wrong people angry and his early demise was not a surprise. Towards the end before I moved to SF from Sacramento he did kind of turned on me but I stood up for myself and stuck my finger in his chest 5 or 6 times really hard(do not anger me) and he looked at me and said some clever veiled threat I can’t remember.
    Next time I saw him he stuck his four fingers into my abdomen really quick but friendly as I was speaking to his wife. It was an acknowledgement that he respected me for standing up for myself. After a few years I realize that he was a good dude but he hated cowards and loved to fuck with someone who bullied people. RIP Mad Dog Buzz Sawyer.

    • @Horatio.Mantooth
      @Horatio.Mantooth 6 років тому +8

      Gordon Welch but didnt he bully other people as well? Even cornette mentioned how he would take undercard guys trunks and boots and not give them back.

    • @georgeelmerdenbrough6906
      @georgeelmerdenbrough6906 5 років тому +8

      He was a turd

    • @allamericananti-christ666
      @allamericananti-christ666 5 років тому +5

      "Do not anger me"
      Yeah, you wouldn't like him when he's angry! Lmao.

    • @justinwoyan7424
      @justinwoyan7424 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the story! I love reading the stories of the guys that knew him. My dad was a wild man! He died a month befor i turned 8 so i remember alot but My moms been telling me alot of stories recently

    • @vgordonw
      @vgordonw 3 роки тому

      @@justinwoyan7424 How is your beautiful mom? I hope you are well. I can tell you some unbelievable stuff. Dude was not scared of anything.

  • @newcountryguy
    @newcountryguy 2 роки тому +2

    I remember the time Buzz Sawyer was wrestling on TV. I believe it was in Georgia at the time. He injured his wrist during the match. He bent it backwards in an inhuman way almost. He held his wrist, finished the match and went to the back.

  • @thomasgann8754
    @thomasgann8754 5 років тому +2

    The place Corny is talking about with Buzz Sawyer is actually Henderson Arena near Union City,GA.

    • @Crushmore404
      @Crushmore404 Рік тому

      Makes WAY more sense than Unadilla. 😅

  • @greedyd5524
    @greedyd5524 6 років тому +7

    His promos for the Last Battle of Atlanta was classic... Tommy Rich,The last time is just the last time.. What’s between us is bad and it’s heavy but it’s gotta be and it’s gonna be

  • @donwilcox728
    @donwilcox728 2 роки тому +11

    Buzz Sawyer was the most naturally gifted pro wrestler I ever had the fortune of watching. Gordon Solie new this as well. Low center of gravity, always on the offensive, never searching for what to do next in the ring. Buzz Sawyer was the real deal and as a fan you new it. He may have been a terrible human being but you will never find a better professional wrestler.

    • @jefferyashmore6477
      @jefferyashmore6477 Рік тому +2

      Buzz tried bob Backlund and got put to sleep.

    • @donwilcox728
      @donwilcox728 Рік тому

      @@jefferyashmore6477 What? When?

    • @jefferyashmore6477
      @jefferyashmore6477 Рік тому

      @@donwilcox728 saw it on you tube. I agree with you, buzz was a very good a real shame he had problems. Said it was a back stage deal.

  • @doctorfeelfunny584
    @doctorfeelfunny584 6 років тому +10

    These are great, but I'm really hoping you and Jim review matches together as the viewer watches. Those things are phenomenal.
    I just watched an episode of JCP World Championship Wrestling (June 29, 1985) where Manny Fernandez gets visibly frustrated with a job guy attempting clumsy comebacks. It reminded me of the Ko Ko Ware/"Patriot" match.

  • @SuperMutant2099
    @SuperMutant2099 6 років тому +5

    Sad thing buzz pass away not to long after breaking his arm. Sadly had passed away by 92 cause I remember they paid tribute to him on Clash of Champions that was like 20th anniversary of wrestling on TBS

    • @ExperienceEric
      @ExperienceEric 6 років тому +1

      Its too bad the guy was half crazy and ripped people off. He had talent.
      Even though he balded rather early. He would wear that a bandana and had a good tough guy look in the 80's, particularly the earlier/mid 80's.

    • @cretinousjester3475
      @cretinousjester3475 6 років тому +2

      Did he have legit mental problems?

    • @ExperienceEric
      @ExperienceEric 6 років тому

      Not sure if it was diagnosed or not.

    • @cretinousjester3475
      @cretinousjester3475 6 років тому +3

      It would be sad if he did. Not trying to make excuses for the guy but bosses should've noticed it and had him checked out. They might have been able to alleviate the problem somewhat. Cornette's said the guy took some major hits to the head before. Kinda eerie. Foreshadowing the Benoit case.

    • @donaldsmiththroatpunchall1165
      @donaldsmiththroatpunchall1165 6 років тому +2

      Ik buzz had really bad drug problems an ole anderson tried saving him

  • @canedewey756
    @canedewey756 2 роки тому

    Unadilla Ga is south of Macon, not an Atlanta suburb, but it does have that rodeo arena right off exit 121

  • @MrMayDX08
    @MrMayDX08 5 років тому +2

    Saw the Midnights with Bob Roop against Buzz and Bret Wayne Sawyer and Slater in August 1985 in Marietta, Georgia (Roop was pinned, which kept the Midnights strong). The Midnights, Corny and Roop got their heat back by attacking the faces after the match, bloodying one of them ( I think Bret).

  • @mikemartin8718
    @mikemartin8718 5 років тому +10

    He had one of the best power slams in the business

    • @testodude
      @testodude 4 роки тому +3

      Buzz was one of the best workers in the business. If he wasn't a mental defective and wasn't a bald goblin, he could work on top anywhere.

    • @30907bng
      @30907bng 3 роки тому +1

      It was the best.

  • @timburr4453
    @timburr4453 Рік тому

    christ the 80s territory days was an absolute madhouse sitcom

  • @greghood1552
    @greghood1552 5 років тому +9

    Unadilla is not a suburb of Atlanta.
    It's about 2 hours south.

  • @KOJITHEANTAGONIST
    @KOJITHEANTAGONIST Рік тому +1

    They sound so different now

  • @williamfrederick5058
    @williamfrederick5058 Рік тому +1

    Buzz was certifiable!! R.i.p. Mad Dog

  • @charliefromstarkvillemissi1852
    @charliefromstarkvillemissi1852 3 роки тому +5

    Sawyer made have been the worst person in pro wrestling. Good riddance.

  • @jimmyjohnson2126
    @jimmyjohnson2126 Рік тому

    I always enjoyed Buzz Sawyer and Matt Borne as a team, also Buzz as a member of J-Tex

  • @rleggette
    @rleggette Рік тому

    Buzz or real name Bruce and his brother Brett we all went to High School together. Great guys

  • @chewy2804
    @chewy2804 3 роки тому +2

    Unadilla, have heard nothing but good things...
    Nyet

  • @charleswilson2134
    @charleswilson2134 5 років тому +2

    Buzz, as Bruce Woyan, was wrestling in the Florida State Finals (Dixie Hollins High School) and was ahead with 3 seconds to go. His opponent flipped him and pinned him. He was, shall we say, a known loose cannon. Soon, he made his appearance on CWF with Gordon Solie. He was a legit wrestler when it came to WRESTLING but he very soon began to phone it in when "Outside Attractions" began to take over. At the end, his matches were little more than bite, scratch, kick. You know the drill. An interesting character, an untimely end.

  • @thack57
    @thack57 2 роки тому

    Look up Sean Oliver's working with Buzz. I think he's a serious head case. He'd find some benefit in wearing a straight jacket after being dosed with Thorazine.

    • @jb0609
      @jb0609 Рік тому

      he is dead

  • @someparts
    @someparts 6 років тому +4

    ....racquet on the side like for the marks....

  • @forwardomni1355
    @forwardomni1355 Рік тому +1

    I can tell you some stuff about my sawyer “Bruce woyan” I knew him since we we in high school. This guy turned out to be a real piece of work. He owed me 1700 dollars and stole a handgun out of my car in hapeville Ga after we ate lunch one afternoon . It jus goes on and on. He’s dead because he was stupid.

  • @heisensaul5538
    @heisensaul5538 9 місяців тому

    I'm pretty sure that current day Jim and Brian are not friends of one David Bixenspan.

  • @YogsenForfoth
    @YogsenForfoth 2 роки тому +3

    Sounds like Sawyer was a pilled out maniac. He was probably an awful person to have to work with.

  • @gwumpyolman
    @gwumpyolman 2 роки тому

    Great, I liked Buzz and "Hacksaw" Brett Sawyer. Hey Jim what happened to Archie Gouldie? Was the ref in that match Nick Patrick or Scrappy maybe? I love you shows.

  • @marksymbala3454
    @marksymbala3454 5 років тому +3

    Was buzz bumped off?

  • @JokerThaToker
    @JokerThaToker 3 роки тому +2

    Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

    • @geneticfreak4394
      @geneticfreak4394 2 роки тому

      That is what Rick James said.

    • @JokerThaToker
      @JokerThaToker 2 роки тому

      @@geneticfreak4394 yessir! It applies to Buzz Sawyer as well. lol

  • @hellgato777
    @hellgato777 Рік тому +1

    Jim " summer of 63" Cornette

  • @mikes.4136
    @mikes.4136 6 місяців тому

    Buzz was an incredible amateur wrestler and strong as an ox.

  • @fredbergstrom4866
    @fredbergstrom4866 2 роки тому

    Buzz was just an incredible heel. Such personality and just a bad was you wanted to see a face beat up every night on TBS in the 80s

  • @nickeverything4433
    @nickeverything4433 3 роки тому +1

    Look up ken Shamrock talk about Buzz

    • @thomasswafford250
      @thomasswafford250 2 роки тому

      What did he say about him?

    • @nickeverything4433
      @nickeverything4433 2 роки тому +1

      @@thomasswafford250 Buzz was his original pro wrestling trainer. What this entailed was Buzz making Ken beat up all of the other trainees, so he could take their money and run them off. Eventually Ken left, and after that Buzz died.

  • @johnpaulneanderthal2307
    @johnpaulneanderthal2307 5 років тому +1

    memorable Buzz Sawyer he could go

  • @davidhayes5961
    @davidhayes5961 2 роки тому

    Dogs do fly!!

  • @thomasgann8754
    @thomasgann8754 5 років тому +3

    Also, the ref Corny is referring too might be Nick Patrick.

    • @robrozek9265
      @robrozek9265 3 роки тому

      Or maybe Scrappy McGowan they both wore the different jump suit style uniforms not the traditional referee uniforms

    • @Meatball2022
      @Meatball2022 3 роки тому

      I was thinking Bronco Lubich...

    • @Meatball2022
      @Meatball2022 3 роки тому

      @nolan hicks I grew up in Florida, only watched Texas wrestling occasionally. You may be right. I don’t recall. Was too young.
      I do remember seeing an older ref in a match I saw live once in Asheville NC, probably around 1984 or so. I thought it was bronco, but may be wrong. Ref got kicked in the head legit. Had to help him to the back and he never returned. If that wasn’t bronco, I’m really curious who it might have been.

    • @geneticfreak4394
      @geneticfreak4394 2 роки тому

      It was Nick Patrick. Nick lived in Griffin, Ga and did all the Georgia towns.

  • @ricstormwolf
    @ricstormwolf 3 роки тому +1

    "Four of us plus Dennis' 44 Magnum. So, 12 of us." Is that Scott Steiner math? 🤔😂

    • @Rjensen2
      @Rjensen2 2 роки тому

      Guess what number you get when you add the 4s together?

    • @natwolf687
      @natwolf687 Рік тому

      ​@@Rjensen2 I'm pretty sure that's not how ballistics work.

    • @Rjensen2
      @Rjensen2 Рік тому

      @@natwolf687 Who said it did?
      4+4+4=12

  • @canedewey756
    @canedewey756 2 роки тому

    I never understood one word Buzz ever said

  • @roymauler
    @roymauler 4 роки тому +1

    Unadilla is not a suburb of Atlanta. It is south of Macon.

    • @shaunclifton5281
      @shaunclifton5281 3 роки тому

      Roy, are you related to Daniel Stuart ? Great guy. He is 1st cousin to a very good friend of mine.

    • @roymauler
      @roymauler 3 роки тому

      @@shaunclifton5281 I assume you mean Unknown Hinson? No. Athough if you go back far enough the Baker side of my family came from North Carolina to Georgia.

    • @shaunclifton5281
      @shaunclifton5281 3 роки тому +1

      @@roymauler Gotcha. Yeah, hell of a guy. I had been a fan for years, and a few years ago was talking to a girlfriend of mine. Turns out their dads were brothers. After that I ended up meeting him a few times when we went to his shows.

    • @shaunclifton5281
      @shaunclifton5281 3 роки тому +1

      @@roymauler I do miss the porkchop sideburns though. Lol

    • @roymauler
      @roymauler 3 роки тому +1

      @@shaunclifton5281 I saw him live 18 times.

  • @cappy2282
    @cappy2282 Рік тому

    Buzz was a good guy

  • @livendapast6347
    @livendapast6347 Рік тому +1

    😂😂😂😂

  • @stevew7571
    @stevew7571 4 роки тому

    Last battle of atlanta! Rich vs sawyer!!!!

  • @redfoley9608
    @redfoley9608 2 роки тому

    Harley Racs

  • @williamellis-xd1rm
    @williamellis-xd1rm Рік тому

    He was a scum bag from what I've heard...and a little stiff...but he always looked like a pretty good worker to me. He had a power slam that rivaled RW Animal.

  • @chuckhelton9537
    @chuckhelton9537 2 роки тому

    Three on one .. dennis had a gun .... Lol... L

  • @bigglilwayne7050
    @bigglilwayne7050 4 роки тому

    Damn Cornette's dislike for Sawyer is nearly as bad as it is for Danny Spivey(who I would pay to see Corny talk shit to in person lol)

  • @zachbalon4027
    @zachbalon4027 3 роки тому +1

    Fast forward to 2021 buzz sawyer was the person who robbed the undertaker

  • @kiltay6754
    @kiltay6754 3 роки тому

    WWE has destroyed wrestling with the stupid rated gee.. Who cares wrestling you see today ..oops sorry I mean entertainment !!!

  • @Snakeman612
    @Snakeman612 2 роки тому +1

    Thank CHRIST Jim has ex communicated the abortion that shoulda been Bixenspan