Jim Cornette on Reckless & Dangerous Wrestlers
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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"The leaping tombstone spinning vertebreaker piledriver” sounds like a new Zangief move.
7:23 yes I laughed hard at that for some reason 🤣
Zangief reference...nice.
I'm dying.lmfao
Id make that my finisher
That move is guaranteed to give D-pad blisters
Ahmed is definitely at the top of the list. Dude had a fucking laundry list of people he injured AND another laundry list of his own injuries.
Who has he injured?
@@fatalsniper3413 nobody. He got in a fight w rock backstage that's all
@@fatalsniper3413 HE INJURED NONE YOU GUTLESS COWARD!! Too afraid to look it up. P.o.s. MF!
@@imright6340 don't give him the answer! You p.o.s. I'll hurcha MF!!😡💪🏽🤜🏼😵
@@fatalsniper3413 Ron Simmons
First one that came to mind was new jack.how do you stab someone that many times and still be allowed to ever wrestle again?
He should have rotted in prison over that one.the state should have picked that one up.
He kept switching promotions
The kid mass transit never belonged in the ring to begin with. Mass transit asked New Jack to to blade him and trying to call shots and overstepping his boundaries and lying about being trained by killer Kowalski
New Jack has done nothing wrong. Even Cornette loves him.
@@Gurziak what he did to gypsy Joe was wrong.
How he got "even" with Vic Grimes was wrong.
I'll give him a pass on the Mass transit issue, And for stabbing that dude in Florida.
But beating the hell out of a old man, and attempting to kill Grimes. He was wrong for those.
We’re gonna stay right here until ya calm down and start listening to me
lmfao ernie ladd sounded like joe clark from that movie lean on me lmfao
Funny how strength can make someone safer or dangerous, depending on how they use it. Compare the Ultimate Warrior injuring Bobby Heenan's neck or nearly breaking his own neck against Rick Rude by jumping too hard vs. Kane, who I remember once lifting Taker up during a near-botched tombstone so that Taker's head was in the right position, and thereby avoided either a botched finisher or a neck injury for Taker.
Gotta mention New Jack
Did the Chris Champion/Rick Steiner incident happen when Champion was teaming with Sean Royal as "The New Breed"?
Later
ua-cam.com/video/Jk6T74T-0xg/v-deo.html Here's the match/incident
Someone called Teddy Long a n***** in the end of the video.
I love how passionate Jim is about traditional wrestling. You try to do it differently and he'll give you an earfull.
Cornette= best ever
Shit happens in ballet too, real shit
2:25 I wish I could see that omg, so many great stories told by Jim
double goozle...classic Midnight Express...
Baron/Happy Corbin is one of the safest wrestlers in wrestling
Long live the Von Erichs!!!!!!
Sorry, but there's only one left that I know of.
historically, they do not. sorry.
A salute of long life for Von Erichs makes you a MUSH.😅
Enjoy his stories.
A recent example would be Nia Jax.
Cornette is SO much at his BEST when talking about classic wrestling, not his boring repetitive negativity against current wrestling
I worked the indys in the 80's and 90's got back in a few years ago to be in a battle royal for a old friend who had passed had to give more receipts than I did in 15 years of ring time. I was good till some kid in his 1st year in ring tells me I don't hit hard enough did one more match with him beat the hell out of him
If he had asked you to just be snug, but not stiff, would you have still battered him, or would you have just been snugger?
@@theradgegadgie6352 he was happy with the match to him I was just snugger I'd have got the hell beat out of me in the day working that stiff , it's a new world so I just stay outside the ring and run my mouth to the fans and grab a leg or two.
when i worked my trainer. my graduation match was him just chopping me the whole time. i had no spots and a bleeding chest at the end of it but i did try to cover up
Two words Nia Jax, I have watching wrestling for over 50 years, man or woman she is the most reckless. Also viscera Mable Big Daddy V was not a pleasure to work with.
Or Whatever the fuck
-jim corny Cornette
how about the time when The APA beat the ever loving shit out of The Public Enemy
I can’t believe that Sting didn’t kill anyone with the Scorpion Death Drop
It looks like shit
No wrestlers have ever put more guys out of the business than the Mulkey Brothers. One match with them and the opponents drop dead on the spot from laughter.
I remember seeing Nikita Koloff hit this guy that was so much smaller than him with his Russian Sickle/clothes line finisher. It was on the old TBS Saturday night studio show with Gordon Solie. The jobber’s ring name was El Geeko and he was a bald guy with a beard and had on shaggy fur trunks and boots. He actually looked exactly like my high school chemistry/physics teacher. That is why I remember him so well. Anyway, Koloff sent him into the ropes and hit him with a clothes line that came upwards under his chin and from about Savannah with how far he swung his arm. This guy was lifted up off of his feet, did a legit 540, landed on the back of his head and if it was a sell from the guy it was the best clothes line sell in the history of pro wrestling. That guy just got absolutely obliterated.
Purposely hurting jobbers is literally despicable. Like how stupid do you have to be? Hurting someone doesn’t make you look tough it just exposes the business. If you punch a jobber for real and knock him out, as a fan I’m like wait why don’t you just do that all the time? Hurting the jobbers is a perfect example of a kid squashing a bug just because he can. It only projects your insecurities as a person and makes the product look worse.
Great point, you summed it up perfectly...
Swan Lee not true. They’re superstars, if they don’t absolutely break every bone in a jobbers body it would expose the business. He can afford the hospital with his $500 payday, and even have $20 left over to pay his trailer court fees.
@@youtubeadmin1588 What the fuck is a "trailer" court fee?
@@gregbaldwin5144 it’s satirical
@@comicnerd1000lol I know I’m years late but I love when people have to explain satire
I was 15 when I shook Ernie Ladd's big hand! Love that man! 1985 Baltimore Civic Center. 🖐🏾✊🏿👍🏿🙏🏿 #Big Cat
The Big Cat was a great guy and a tremendous performer. Probably one of the greatest talkers ever in the business. I also had the pleasure of meeting Ernie in Louisiana. He was a complete gentleman.
Gino Hernandez "where's the f***ing mirror... what's he done to my face" I could die laughing from that story
The problem today is that the wrestlers have to compete with the UFC. And to compete with the UFC when the audience knows it’s a work, you end up doing the spinning backflip vertabreaker piledriver.
But the business will never get back to the glory days, where 30-40 arenas drew 2-5,000 people every single night and twice on Sunday.
Needless Potatoes would be a great name for a band.
Vaginal Croutons, FingerBang, The Mummy Farts, and ScrotumGrinder!
Helpful Corn, dear
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@@eamonwright7488 oh good God! Lol
Abyss of society. Devil panties. Black aero. Demon shit. Seraphim. ChickenFire. CockBlood. And many more.
Email dragonheir15@gmail.com for business inquiries.
Barbed Wire Enema, Dumpster Juice
I hope that some day a story is told by Cornette that involves Ernie Ladd talking to Dusty Rhodes
Joshua Arnold I second that!
Terry Funk too. Jim does a good Terry Funk impression
Dirty Rhodes ...
Joshua Arnold I wish someone would make a kickstarter for this
Story, schmory! I demand a puppet show!
“The leaping tombstone spinning vertebreaker piledriver”. Hahaha!
Also known as the "Alvarez driver" lol
Dynamite Kid broke Mick Foley's jaw with a forearm when Mick was a jobber
Nia Jax for sure. Ahmed Johnson in the Attitude Era. Also Hardcore Holly was a bully so he was a dangerous loose cannon.
Agreed on Hardcore Holly. Never liked him. He was a bully and hurt alot of rookies.
@@georgenelson8284 Hardcore Holly should be in jail. The guy is an absolute psycho.
Kevin nash said viscera nearly killed him when splashing him.
Even after telling him NOT to do said move.
Yeah but, Kevin Nash said alot of things.
@@jimreily7538 And some people forgot those things Kevin Nash said.
James Mitchell not Viscera, Mabel.
@@youtubeadmin1588 kayfabe lives.
Going back through all these old clips has been great for catching up in wrestling history!! It's always entertaining when told by Jim and Brian
I could listen to Jim's stories all day, wait I do lol
Jim is just great
There's a few guys I could listen to all day long. Cornette, JR and Lawler, Heyman. Iconic talkers imo.
@Shlutty Mc'Shlutface JR is a great announcer, outside of that he doesn't use the same energy in his podcasts.
Bill Eadie is a guy I could listen to all day long. He's very matter-of-fact and never comes off like he's bullshitting. The shoot he and smash did with Hannibal, I think it was, was amazing
No life?
Wrestlers HAVE to be more careful in the ring. Have we learned NOTHING from that fateful night when the Undertaker almost deprived us of Hulk Hogan's greatness with that botched pile-driver?
😂
Corny's Ernie Ladd is one of my favorite impressions.
It's the best.
His Dusty imitation is near identical some times.
"No more talking about the Challenger"
Dumb yourself right out of position lol
EXACTLY !!!!!!!!! LMAO !!!! That was ole Ernie. As a child he knew a friend of my moms as they all finished and went to Grambling. He was there at there at their house one time and I was TERRIFIED of him cause he was do HUGE !!!!!!
His Dusty impression is top shelf also. Sounds just like him
That was an awesome Ernie Ladd impression.
Jesus, I just saw the clip: watch?v=Jk6T74T-0xg , it was Rick Steiner. Scott always said Rick was the crazy one, and NOT the one you wanna stiff in the ring. It wasn't a receipt, it was a goddamn murder. Teddy Long was like, "Dude, I ain't even gonna hurry on counting this guy, he's out."
He was the dangerous one to mess with . The better shooter and good awfully strong .
I'm glad Jim referenced Yokozuna in this, because the first thing I thought of is how savage his finisher looked to some of the jobbers, as opposed to on someone like Hulk Hogan or the Undertaker.
Yes. If he was in a mood (or maybe the job guy messed up in some way earlier) he wouldn't squat down on the banzai...he would just let his feet slide out and full on crush their sternums.
it looked absolutely brutal
Buzz Sawyer is lucky he wasn't in the same locker room as Andre The Giant when he abused job guys, Andre had none of that crap, ask Iron Sheik.
I wouldn't dream of kicking Rick in the face. That's a ticket to getting stretched to the max and an as kicking.
Shiiiiit, people think Scott's the one with the worst mean streak out of the brothers until they piss off Rick.....
I think Zangief can do the Leaping Tombstone Vertebreaker Piledriver
Nah That's Undertaker If Undertaker Were In Street Fighter His Finisher Would Be The Tombstone Piledriver
You are correct, I saw him do it at a house show in 2017
Savio VEGA
Briggs also does it but he cracks your back first.
What about the spinning lariat?
I remember my dad talking about Ahmed in the 90s and how much he liked him but that he wasn’t safe in the ring.
😂😂 at their bodies look like🍔 or their limping all the time from being🍘 potato'ed
anyone have a link for more info or an interview about the Karl Gotch Buddy Rodgers thing?
Mabel. End of debate. God he was bad and dangerous.
Especially if he lost his temper
Oh yeah,Mabel was horrible.
Walter Levesque yes he pooped on many many wrestlers, always had the shits
Especially if he didn’t have his Waffle House before a match
It seems as if the bigger you are, the more careful you should be in the ring.
The Beverly Brothers potentially? Their tag team finisher was brutal. Just watch some of their squash matches in the WWE.
I could listen to Cornette imitate Ernie Ladd and the Dream all day 😂😂
Well I freaking hurt and limp around all the time anyway. Wish I had the money from it being wrestling injuries instead. Lol.
TheHighJedi ! Me also
Money? In wrestling? Hah! Hahaha! You're fucking funny.
$50?
When it comes to Corny's last point on the job guys, if I was the promoter and I trusted a member of my management team for lack of a better word to book jobbers who at least somewhat knew what they were doing and one or two turned out not to fill that criteria, I wouldn't blame the guy in the ring for it, I'd pay them then go to the guy who booked them in the first place and chew them out saying something like "what the fuck are you doing, did you not think to fucking check if that guy knew anything before sending them out there?"
I'm reminded of a few stories of the APA, they weren't careless or reckless, they were a bit stiff in the ring and liked to pull rough ribs in the back, but they weren't sloppy. But when someone was reckless and sloppy or just let their egos get too big for their positions in the pecking order they'd invariably find themselves in the ring with either the APA or the Dudleys or one of the other 'policemen' who'd proceed to teach them to clean up their act.
Best example of that was Public Enemy when they came to the WWF. And who ended up being the welcoming community for that party? APA, and it didn't look like it felt very good either.
That's what made their early days as the Acolytes so great.
"It's not their fault they don't know what they're doing"
Definitely never thought id hear those words come out of Jim Cornette's mouth. Pretty sure he didn't know he said it lol.
I was sitting next to Joe Thurmond in the locker room, and was working security, when he got his back broken. When Vader found out what happened he kicked open the outside door fell to his knees threw up, and started crying, it was Ron Simmons that helped him calm down. And while all of it was going on people kept asking me questions about Joe because I had been sitting next to him, I had never met him, until he sat down next to me. All I could tell them was which bag was his, so they could get whatever info they could. It is something I will never forget.
damn thats wild. so the dude broke his back but could still walk and sit down?
Anyone who goes out of their way to hurt job guys is a prick and I wish more of the boys had stood up for them. This isn't a shootfight
For the definition of "stiff " watch Mad Dog Vachon...Moondogs tag matches from Memphis, or WCW era Buzz Sawyer.
Steiner didn't NOT appreciate that..
A cross between a Goldberg spear and Stan Hansen Lariet almost killed Chris.
Seriously...you want to contemplate something funny? I betcha most of these young, crazy wrestlers getting started in the business would beg Animal to throw potatoes at them so they can brag they were pummeled by Road Warrior Animal. It'd be major clout for them.
He did manage the Gangstas, and we all know about New Jack
Corny is affraid to name him
The worst shot had to be Foley vs undertaker damn that match is just fucked and hard to watch
I can't wait for Corny to sound off about Sami Callahan and that bat...
Vid's up.
"Vertibreaker Piledriver" my new favorite name, lol.
That's how you would call homicide's finisher.
Sounds like Owen Hart
Literally what happened to Darren Drozdoff
@@jimreily7538 No! That was a Vertibreaker Powerbomb!
Vertebreaker is a Piledriver.
The von erichs style has ruthless agression era written all over it.
Gatekeeping kept it in check. Bring it back
Vader did that shit to Stevie Ray, and got F up for it ,,per S.R
Hawk was dangerous .... he was dropping people on their heads from being pilled up
Big guys could be particularly dangerous if they were not able to control their mass , like Viscera
Like who? Coming to mind I got when jj broke his shoulder in the war games or mark canterberry breaking his neck on the doomsday device
@@georgeelmerdenbrough6906 he was fat and terrible, taker is a safe big guy
Ahmed Johnson dangerous to others and himself.
He's in a wheelchair these days. Car accident.
Yeah, Ahmed hurt a few guys. I remember that Owen Hart had to have STAPLES, not stitches put into his head because Ahmed kicked him in the head with a scissors kick way too hard.
I have to give Hulk Hogan credit just once, he wasn't wreckless in the ring, he is just wreckless in life.
He also no-sold almost everything and you could never have more than one match with Terry. You had Terry's match and 9 times out of 10, he was getting over, whether it was good for business or not. It's hard to be reckless in the ring when your moveset is so limited. His matches always had a lot of time wasting and posing. Goldberg was also limited in the ring, but at least Hogan knew his limitations and worked within those limitations. I know he did more in Japan, but in North America, he stuck to his bread and butter and it's hard to screw that up.
Watch Undertaker vs Goldberg
I wonder what Jim's opinion is on the Eddie Edwards baseball bat botch.
Video's up bro'. He's PISSED, lol(What else is new).
Helpful feedback from a new subscriber: Turn down the LOUD intro.
This is true, fellas.
That's been a complaint for so long. They don't care. It's sad
I can cut a reduced-volume version of the intro clip for you guys, if needed, and email it over to you... Contact @G_Whiz_Willibey on twitter
If they don't care, then eventually I won't care enough to stay subscribed.
Agreed, hate the booming volume, needs to be addressed.
Karl Gotch was a LEGIT badass
there is video out there of a job guy messing up a Road Warrior Animal clothesline so bad that Animal just punched him in the face elbowdropped him and covered the poor guy
I think maybe more interesting is the guys today who are safe, who will protect you in the ring, who go out of their way to make sure you and they come out the other side and then get insulted for it. Good example, the Miz, love him or hate him he's almost never hurt, he's not stiff, he doesn't throw potatoes, and his moves are made to look good but not bump hard... And they let Daniel Bryan insult him about it. Like he wasn't a real wrestler cause he hadn't caused himself enough injury.
Surprisingly there is a story of Shawn Michaels slapping Mabel for hurting a jobber
More Gino Hernandez stories, please!!!!
HAHA, the Leaping Tombstone Vertebreaker Piledriver !!!!! My new move on WWE 2k19
And your ring name is Chris hero?
@@spac18 Did you know there actually was a wrestler named Chris Hero?
@@ericw.spradlin5803 his real name is Chris spradlin, that's the joke
Lol god damn. There are always hilarious comments in the wrestling videos.
And it’s never on purpose.
Needless Potatoes, sounds like a children's book
The best ever jobber was the guy that wouldn't sell for the sky scrapers, even when they were shooting the fuck out of him after the bell. He should be in the WWE hall of fame, maybe 2018
Hooky Street Productions He was a good hand and was in USWA Dallas & Global and Big D I believe
Really, I never knew. Thought he was a one hit wonder but now you've made it more interesting, I'm gonna have to find more of his matches. Do you know any names ?
Didn't know Corny did a commentary on it ua-cam.com/video/o2m4fMIFhsM/v-deo.html The legend, Ultimate Mike Blackwell
Road warriors huge 1985 awa championship s won crokit cup 1986 1987 nwa champs miss these guy s
They won the NWA Tag Titles in 1988 not 1987.
New jack- scott Steiner- ultimate warrior-JBL-andre the giant- vader.oh and bob holley.
Mabel
Sid Vicious admitted to purposely trying to hurt guys in the ring
Idiot
No mention of Buzz Sawyer?
Wut.
Been a huge fan of Corny since 82 gr8 to listen to his tell of the business priceless
Leaping tombstone spinning vertebreaker piledriver... someone get on that. Make it work.
mother. of. G O D.
@@iCanBeHeroic you'll probably kill someone and lose your job in the process but it will look awesome.
Fact that this is a plausible move concerns me
@@aohu7505 how ironic would it be if corny ended up inspiring the most absurdly dangerous finisher of all time? John zandig is probably working it out right now.
@@EdmundKempersDartboard i honestly wouldn't be surprised if john is regardless of hearing this
End of this match is the Chris Champion situation: ua-cam.com/video/Jk6T74T-0xg/v-deo.html
Thanks for the link. I just watched it. That kick by Champion was nasty and that clothesline was something else.
I love that intro it rocks
I like the intro as well but the volume is a little loud.
Okay everybody has heard this one Superstar Billy Graham made a statement that Abdullah the Butcher had cut some dark-skinned Indian guy so bad that the guy was turning white in the locker room from Los of blood, and blood was literally running down to his feet that is taking it too far another example of taking it too far is Abdullah the Butcher cutting people and knowning he had Hep C basically crashed Hannibal's career and who know how many others
Hannibal in turn followed suit and also cut people dangerously and wrestled with hep c.
Potatoe me and imma get my receipt,BROTHER
Perry Saturn kicking Mike Bell's ass
I've heard that JBL would be reckless in some matches depending on who you talk to although I think top reckless guys would be warlord and barbarian
Mack McGowan I don’t think reckless is the right word to describe him from what I’ve heard. The word reckless implies that it was unintentional, JBL would intentionally throw way more stiff hits at guys that he had problems with or didn’t like
@@elliotaddler2302 That's what happens when you're buddies with the guy who very few people in the lockerroom mess with in Taker. I'm pretty sure Taker probably had talks with him at one point or another. Granted all you had to do is step up to JBL and show you aren't taking his shit. There's a story about wrestlers court where Matt Striker or someone had enough of JBL or something and started rolling up his sleeves and JBL backed down from fighting him or something.
@@TheInspectorDilfordDa3rd JBL is a real life pussy.
Randy Orton is one of the top cleanest wrestlers i have ever seen... The man wrestle super clean..
Kenrick Eason and has just about as much Charisma as a broken television
his dad was like that too. Cowboy Bob was super smooth.
They used to say that if you were to create a wrestler from scratch it would be Randy Orton. He should def' be a trainer someday.
cKreepy Jones Agree!
Jennifer Pyrce Agree!
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I use too love the steiners
Jim seems like an uptight guy. It's like he can never chill.
** you. You chill Jim rules you suck a**
He was a chic Donavan of color
Since when did Yoko Banzai Drop Corny?
The road warriors were rough but not wreckless
some of their 45 second NWA matches where they took on 125lb jobbers sure looked they hurt like hell
“If they are here, then they need to fucking take it!!”