Jim Cornette on "On A Pole" Matches
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- Опубліковано 21 січ 2025
- From Episode 101 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru!
Artwork by Travis Heckel!
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What about Judy Bagwell on a Forklift Match
Legendary.
Killed the stip?
Pinata on a Pole Match.
@@ytubebrowser7560 Technically, it didn't because nobody was allowed to hit people with Judy. Positively Kanyon described her as being a battleaxe before the match so obviously it would have been way too dangerous for her to be used in this fashion. :P
@@Mister_Phafanapolis The sad thing is, Russo seemed demented enough to think this was a good idea for a stipulation.
I love these mini dives into certain topics. Keep it up.
Travis kinda drew Jim to look like Janet Reno here. Lol 🤣
Now I cant unsee it LMAO
Still think Paul Jones as well.B.W.
Spot on!!
Time for a Dance Party
😂😂😂
"When your snake turns on you, you know you've made some bad life choices."
lol my big sister has a pet python. i guess i better be nice to it
On-a-pole matches lose their appeal these days because everyone is using weapons all the time anyway both outside and inside matches that it's nothing special.
Bayley v Alexa Bliss for the Raw Womens Championship a few years ago: the story was Bayley was too scared (?) to use the kendo stick. She didnt use it in the kendo stick on a pole match and she lost.
Madhat2k I agree with what you say here, and I definitely agree with your display picture! Jelly baby?
I think you could pull it off with the right gimmick
Like ladder matches..
When I hear Coal Miner's Glove match, I think of Sting vs Jake Roberts at Halloween Havoc 92
@20:02
"Spin the Wheel make the deal!"
The first one I saw was , Robert and Ron Fuller vs. The New Zealand Sheephearders luke Williams and Jonathon Boyd , it was bloody as hell
LOL yup
Prince of Darkness match LOL
That's old school territory stuff. You didn't even need sound to know who was face and heel. If he runs to the ring and does a lap around it giving fans high fives. Tries to shake the opponents hand before the match. Pretty sure that's not your heel. On the other hand. If he comes out already pissed off. Spitting cussing raising 9 kinds of hell. Threatening little old ladies and sucker punching the opponent during hand shake.....that probably not your baby face
Nowadays, heels are getting cheered and babyfaces are booed, especially if they are bland and lousy. In 1997, Stone Cold gets cheered despite being a heel and the WrestleMania 13 match made Austin into a rebellious babyface while The Rock fka Rocky Maivia was booed even though he was a babyface simply because he is bland as hell. So, Rocky turned heel and sooner or later, he became an instant star
The nWo changed everything. Heels were cool and faces were losers. I almost always root for heels because they actually entertain and faces usually just say dumb shit like "I'm here because of all these great fans in attendance tonight" and all that pandering garbage.
@@hollywood21639
It was earlier than that. Ric Flair was always the heel in the territory days, defending the NWA title against the local babyface.
But then when Crockett buys out all the territories, Flair, without changing his persona or gimmick, becomes the babyface because he’s the cool guy. Guys want to be him, girls want to be with him.
@@SonnyBubba it was far less mainstream though. I never thought flair was cool, hall and Nash were cool. Flair always just seemed corny AF.
The first one I seen was in early 1970 at pikeville, KY. At a coal mine. Two miners was fighting.
I recall promos for Duggan vs Dibiase, in Mid-South, for a Coal Miner's Glove match. Duggan showed the glove, on tv, with a close-up, where you could see the metal studs on the knuckle area. They looked like about $4-5 in queartes melted solid and mounted on leather. You definitely believed that if it really connected with someone's head, there would be blood and broken bones.
Those two had an epic match in Houston - greatest stipulation match of all time - coal miner's glove on a pole, in a cage, in tuxedos, no holds barred, and loser has to leave town - the match in on YT
@@michaelinhouston9086 There was also Duggan vs Hercules Hernandez (1984) w Cornette as Herc's Manager that feud ended with a Coal Miners Glove match in Houston
Loved how the heels passed it around too. Butch Reed hitting Terry Taylor in the stomach during the TV title tournament
If I had this clip to explain the law of diminishing returns when I was in college I’d use it
We need an Infinity Gauntlet on a pole match! If the heel snaps his fingers Dave Meltzer will record that half the attendance was papered.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Richard Luciano lmao
5 star comment!
Incredible
I remember when WWE went to gimmick ppvs to draw up ppv business and thinking how stupid that was. Now TLC and Hell in a Cell matches (which used to be terrifying matches) are just what happens when those months come around and they have to shoehorn in reasons why to people who just started a feud have to now fight in Hell in a Cell.
I'm surprised they never had an on a pole ppv. 🤣😂🤣
@@dizzy1369 they probably would of named it something like Great Poles of fire 🧐
watch Bret vs. Owen @ Summerslam 94, the crowd is going INSANE
Overdoing a gimmick is like an aging boomer struggling to relive past glory.
I also think it kills that stuff not simply because they force it to happen for the PPV but also because there’s multiple of those marches in one show. A HIAC is cool but not when there’s two in one night for instance. Or like TLC where they have six variants of that match on the same night. Just never have liked the gimmick PPVs
In Stampede if there was a Street Fight between say Dynamite Kid vs Bad News Allen, both wore jeans and cowboy boots to the ring and both men had taped fists.
Yep which is why Shawn Michaels wear that outfit at SummerSlam 02. Now HHH should have done the same. I was always disappointed that he didn't.
Crockett Promotion had "pole matches" Salt Miner Glove, Coal Miner Glove, Kendo Stick, Capture the Flag. Jimmy Valiant was the center of most of them. Makes sense now with his history in Memphis territory. Ivan Koloff worked most of them with him and they were in WWWE together in early 1970s. Don't know if they had any programs together there.
A match between Jeff Jerrett and Kurt Angle, Karen on a pole match
16:47 Jim described the same problem that comedians had during the transition from vaudeville to national television.
Comedians had years and years of practicing and perfecting their routines in front of live audiences, and then they could still perform their perfected routine in front of an audience who had never seen it before.
That doesn’t happen with national tv.
George Burns described as “they’ll never be as good, because they no longer have a place where they can be bad.”
Huh? There are thousands of comedy clubs and guys grind that circuit for years and many still never get on TV
A remember on the Knoxville matches they were doing a promo and dinged the bell with the glove.
The rabid mice cage match sounds like a winner to me.
Stripper on a pole match
Thats all the girls in wwe
The Sting V. Jake the Snake match was Sting gets the coal miner's glove, but Cactus Jack comes out with a sack and a snake handler's glove as Sting's climbing the pole, and so now Jake has the snake out of the sack (supposedly a cobra but it did not look like one to me as I recall), and Sting has the Coal Miner's glove, and Sting kidney punches Jake from behind and the side, which has Jake 'lose control' of the snake, and it bites him in the side of the face, lacerating him in the face and presumably filling him with venom (On top of this, Jake is holding the snake and trying to make the snake bite him and pressing it's fangs against his face, so if this was a legitimate venomous snake even if it had already had it's venom sacs milked or even removed, Jake had to be completely out of his mind to do this), and Cactus Jack sort of tries to help Jake out of the ring to receive medical care, all while Jake wobbles out of the arena to the back, snake in hand. All of this happened in about 2:30. Memorable enough match because I think it's the only time I ever saw a coal miner's glove match, but also the only time I can remember Jake getting injured by his own snake. It was a terrible match but Jim Ross sold the hell out of it.
Portland wrestling also had stretcher matches, chain matches and kendo stick marches in the 1970's
10:40 I'm glad to hear a burly lumberjack was able to help you finally get it up ;p
All Star Wrestling out of Cloverdale British Columbia Canada used to have coal miners glove matches from time to time. I saw one once in Oliver and it was freakin' brutal.
Mid-South had the “on the pole” matches too. I remember Hacksaw Butch Reed vs Jim Heidhart in a “Football Helmet On A Pole” match in the early 80s
That sounds like the 80s to me😂😂
Portland had a “Loaded Boot on a pole match” featuring the Legendary Grappler
Speaking of Portland, the coal miner's glove match was a Dutch Savage specialty. There's a documentary out there centered on a 1978 program where Savage used the glove to humble Sheiky Baby.
Jim and brian, keep up the great work!!!👍
I saw one in the early to mid 80’s with Chris von colt v Wildcat Wendell Cooley loser leaves continental championship wrestling It was awesome,I still remember it to this day
Portland wrestling had coal miners glove matches in the 1970's
And into the late 80s too. Don Owens was a great promoter in his day but like most old promoters her got set in his ways, the matches that made him money in the 60s and 70s he continued to use well past their day
2:09 whose promo is Jim quoting ?
Sounds like Jim is generalizing a typical promo for the stipulation.
I could listen to Jim drop knowledge all day. Everything he's talking about is almost a completely lost art form. Guys can't cut promos anymore. Guys barely have grudges or even angles. Now its just two little athletic dudes doing, "flip, flip, big move, kick out" and then the crowd chants and Meltzer says its the greatest match of all time.
Championships and titles don't really matter - stories matter.
so you don´t watch wrestling since the 90´s... right?
Jim is a great story teller and has so much knowledge on wrestling, and not only what worked, but how and why it was used. It wasnt done just for the sake of doing something different
Idk what anyone says. The "Judy Bagwell on a Pole" match was a 5 Star instant classic and should be preserved and ejected into space so that future forms of intelligent life can know what our species had to offer before we destroyed ourselves.
We should only show them the very best and this is one of the candidates for the probe that must be sent.
Meltzer, Tokyo Dome, 7 stars, etc.
Feast or fired was another example in a way
Jim mentioned the object in the tights spot, I haven't seen that in years and years. Is it still done anymore?
GWF in the early nineties had a ten grand on a pole match, the bag of money fell into the middle of the ring and Cactus Jack snatched it in the middle of the fight, smiled at the camera and took off and they had to reset the match and get the money back from Foley lol
Awesome Shoot Today Jim!!😎🐐🐐
For some weird reason this reminds me of Vince Russo
Amarillo territory had "diamond glove" matches, a "diamond " studded glove on a pole.
They had a Scott Hall on a pole match?
Oh all the other Territories did the On a Pole match, the Pacific Northwest was actually where the Coal Miners Glove started with Dutch Savage vs "Apache" Bull Ramos. Don Owens, the promoter for the PNW, always finished his shows with either a Two out of Three Falls or a Pole Match, coal miners gloves, kendo sticks, baseball bat, chains, all sorts of things were on that pole
"I've heard tell" Jim using phrases I haven't heard since aI moved up north
"On a pole" matches can be great. At our last event we had the first ever (as far as we know) Weaponized Coal Miner's Glove Match. The crowd was hot for it and we didn't do any crazy over the top stuff.
It all boils down to storytelling. It’s not a question of the business changing or anyone being out of touch. Either you can tell a story and get an audience interested in it, or you can’t. This concept cuts across all entertainment forms not just wrestling, and it is timeless!
I think the worst one was the Pepper-on-a-Pole match when Big Boss Man put Al Snow's dog on the pole and Al had to save it.
Can we finally get Cornette vs Russo at WrestleMania in a 🎾 on a pole match!
It would have to be a casket match cuz Russo would be leaving the ring feet-first
@@Vagajammer Pussy Cornette doesn't have the balls to kill somebody
Shame they never did any coal miner's glove on a pole match cross-promotion with Loretta Lynn... writes itself, man.
Yep
I don't get it
I was born a Coal Miner's daughter, in a cabin on a hill in butcher holler
@@InvisibleHotdog you must be part of the younger crowd. because how could you not know one of the greatest songs ever by Loretta Lynn Coal Miner's daughter? Also there was a movie.
@@TombstoneChris just listened to it. Rings no bells
"Standing on the shoulders of giants"
Almost perfectly literal moment.
The coal-miners-glove match was still popular here in Portland through the '80s.
Jim would wrestle a cheeseburger on a pole match
Wendy’s triple cheese burger on a pole.
I would too.
Didn't it start in Nashville when The Gulus family ran it?
the simplicity of this makes so much sense and makes you wonder why wrestling is like it is now, less is more
Because promoters/bookers/writers always feel the need to top themselves
It’s because the “creative” team forgot about how to end your hotshot. And it’s killed the whole business.
Dutch Savage has claimed he invented the match in Portland (at least with the Coal Miners glove).
Doubt it. It probably comes from a place where they mine coal. Maybe Portland could have some lumberjack themed matches
For a secound i thought it said jim cornette on a pole match lol
JUDY BAGWELL ON A POLE!!!
Paddle on a pole matches were great.
I believe back in the Calgary Stampede Wrestling days, they would call this a Gauntlet Match
Is it just me but does anyone else think it would have been funny to see a verry young Jim Corrnet on Joe LeDuce shoulders as the latter being on tip toes to put the strap on the poll
TNT Title on a Pole - Ol Scapegoat vs Khan-oki... 🤣
When I first read the title I thought it said "Jim Cornette on a Pole Match. The sequel to Judy Bagwell on a forklift
I always wanted to see a pole match on a pole match
4:12
No, it was Krusher Kruschev.
Stampede had those matches but the glove always just looked like a heavy Welding Glove.
russo was a memphis fan bro
Honestly thought the cartoon of Jim was actually Judy Bagwell
I’d like to ask Jim about the Fukin Galaxiens or whatever they were called lol
Memphis tag team managed by Larry Sharpe who brought Bam Bam Bigelow into Memphis. Orange and Maroon masks and tights. Must've been Virginia Tech fans.😂B.W.
That "spin tge wheel make the deal" gimmick was all dusty rhodes.
Dutch Savage in Portland
Very disappointed to find out this wasn't a review of a "Jim Cornette on a Pole" match that I hadn't previously heard of
One of these days I’m going to convince WWE’s Naomi to take me on in a “Sit on my Pole” match 🤷🏾♂️
Would have been great when Ivan Putski's son was wrestling to have a Pole on a pole match.
Missing a divas match on a pole' but they would have to bring back 14
"Geritol on a pole match"- Stunning Steve Austin
This was the first thing I thought of.
@@JEGG1314 ECW Steve Austin was the best.
Something that immediately took the suspense out of the stip for me was when the babyface would get the object, but then the heel would use it and end up winning anyway. At that point it's like why do it?
Why go to the park and fly a kite when you can just pop a pill?
i always loved the 92 coal miners glove match. where jake was bloated, drugged up and clearly unable to climb to the top turnbuckle let alone up a damn pole. no one bled. there were certainly better options on the wheel they could've done (bull rope, first blood, etc)
Coal miners don’t wear special gloves fwiw... sometimes the electricians wear a lineman’s glove but that’s about it... just regular work gloves
The piñata on a pole match
There were coal miner's glove matches in Crockett. Even WWF did nightstick on a pole and such.
Halloween Havoc 92
Corny looks like a young, thin Judy Bagwell in the artwork.
I was first.cant wait to see Jim in Knoxville 5 days from now.love the Cole miner glove match.watching mark curtis put the glove on the pole was the best part of the match rip#mark curtis#
21:25 seen some of the best matches drunk af at the fairgrounds
Edit: timestamp
Curt Hennig was in a coal miner glove on a pole match in awa
Ultimate Surrender? i'm sure wherever JBL is, he's got a browser tab open to that particular genre.
Jbl's head is up vince's ass.
I own a couple of pairs of coal miners gloves, they make great work gloves for use with grinders, though i guess you should call it a Granite Mason's glove since i live not 10km from a granite quary in northern canada and got them from my uncle who worked the quary for 20years
Poor old Judy Bagwell...
Pinata!! Pinata!! Pinata!!
Coal miners glove match bayyybee...
“THE” Russos?!?!? There’s more than one???? Good god Jim. Please tell me there isn’t. Please Jim tell me it’s not true. 😱😱 Our society’s gene pool can’t handle it.
No sunny on a pole match?
The sixteen year old corny story was fantastic.
I wonder if it being a Tennessee territory it was just understood what a coal miners glove was. Idk though, Memphis is a long way from coal country
Nothing is protected anymore. I believe Randy Ortons RKO is one of the only protected finishers in wrestling. Once he hits it, no one gets up. Nowadays a wrestler has to hit a finisher 5 times to pin an opponent, ridiculous. They should have a finisher on a pole match and when you pull down whatever they hang up, then you can do your finisher, sound silly but then again on a pole matches can be silly!
If you want to know why WWE is so different from Corny’s vision of what a wrestling promotion should be, just look at the financial statements of WWE.
Revenues for 2021:
From media: $936M
From live events: $57M
From consumer products $101M
Out of the media revenue:
Network & PPV $215M
Core content (raw&nxt) $575M
Advertising $71M
No wrestling promotion in the 70’s could survive if only 5% of the money that came in was from selling tickets.
Further down the report says that they ran 88 live events and averaged 6,880 tickets sold.
Popcorn on a pole...
The whole “no ads in the middle of a sentence” thing isn’t going too well....
I hear coal miner's glove match I think Portland and Dutch Savage. They had one just about every other week and he would always bring it out for the babyface to get even with the heel.
Gotta be honest, I never liked this concept. I just get WCW 2000 flashbacks. Not good times.
They need to do another 3 stages of hell match
How come we have never had a stripper on a pole match?
Wait does Jim know that viagra pm a pole isn't a rib and actually did happen lol
Strap-on on a pole match
It's a hat on a hat
AWA dying days: Turkey on a pole won by Jake the Milkman
Jake Milliman for the Jobber Hall of Fame, along with "Scrap Iron" Bill Ford.