I'll ask you to stop mocking indigenous peoples, isolated tribes, and the like (e.g. the North Sentinalese, lost South American tribes). We need diversity of thought in this world. Global communications have been making extinct many culture and practices, and we are fast becoming an indistinguishable blob. What a terrible loss of human diversity! STOP MOCKING THESE PEOPLE! Leave them be. If they want to think the earth is flat, so be it. Now, as for so-called "Flat Earthers" in the developed world, they are the equivalent of "Trekkie's." No one at a Las Vegas Star Trek convention believes the people walking around in costumes are real Klingons or Romulins. It's entertainment! They have conventions, merch, video games, clubs, etc. Well, the same is true for the developed world "Flat Earthers." Its entertainment! They're having fun. And for your information, intellectual clergy were among the FIRST people to study astronomy and postulate a sun-centered solar system, spherical earth. Yes, there were some isolated cases where the Church powers were abused by bad actors (just ask Galileo!), but it is simply not true that the Christian Faith preaches to this day that the earth is flat...or ever. SIMPLY NOT TRUE! That is part of the historical record. So your mockery of Christianity is historically inaccurate. At best you can snicker at them for being goofy like people snicker at the Trekkies, if that makes you feel superior. But STOP mocking indigenous peoples and spreading lies about the role of the Church in science.
For my entire life I'll never be able to understand why these people think that NASA will somehow spend billions of dollars on CGI, actors, editors, keeping the conspiracy a secret, etc. But then they'll just make mistakes that would make a 9th grader taking an introductory class cringe.
It's dunning Kruger to its max. Lmao. They are experts in computer graphics now...trust me, they did 10 to 20 minutes of "research" where someone told them what to believe on a video one time.
@@CarinaPrimaBallerina because they wanna feel special and they are the small minority that isnt brainwashed by the government yet.. They openly say that aswell.
@@MrJiffytiffy, I think you are giving flerfs way too much credit! They definitely don’t spend 10-20 minutes “researching”. They simply hear another uneducated numpty say something really silly and then claim it as fact. Research to them is hearing something, repeating it as fact(if.. and only if it agrees with their preselected conclusion), being debunked thoroughly with little to no effort, and nu-uhing anything they don’t like.
You don’t even need all that. Just watch Chris Hadfield sing “Space Odyssey”. Finished watching? Good, it’s a great video. Now, watch it again but look at the watch on his left wrist. EDIT: Just for the record, not a Flat Earther. I didn't realize his watch jangling around in whatever direction it pleases, unlike anything having to deal with gravity ever could, was something Flerfs would think proves their argument. Apologies for the confusion. The Earth is round.
I love how NASA (or whoever is "faking" space being a thing) are both so inept at special effects that they left in an obvious segment of the actor fading away but also so incredibly good that they can perfectly hide a wire trapeze system for little backflip stunts while live on air
What about the mathematical proof that the earth is round? Where’s your mathematical evidence that it’s flat? How long have you been a scientist? How long have you studied the earth?
@@2nd3rd1st NASA we know is full of BS and fakery, but this POS Dave is taking it to next level gaslighting and completely ignoring material people have sent him. He should be punished.
MPEG compression, JPG artefacts, lens flares, cheap cameras, etc. Proof of conspiracies seems to always be found in low-quality footage that's ambiguous to interpret.
also seem to be correct,.... EVERY TIME loll.... so,.. whos the dumb ones again? remember before they admitted about aliens,... and all the jokes made,... fa,ilies ruined,.. then come out and say yeeea they here loll... nit wits man.
I love how stuff like this actually proves that it’s not CGI, because no respectable CGI artist (that „bloated“ budget has to go somewhere if space is fake) would leave such a glaring error…
In the minds of a flat earther... "Guys what about this sh*tty CGI glitch in the end? - Nah leave it bro they're dumb and nobody's gonna understand it's CGI - Oh okay. And for that snake tongue on our logo...? - Yeah they're so dumb we have to give hints about our lies - To destroy our millenia-long conspiracy. - Yeah!"
And what's worse is that CGI artist could never put this on their resume. Why would they take the job? If I did such convincing CGI that I fooled 2 generations of people into thinking space was real I'd really want to put that on a resume.
Yup, this is why we all know that none of this is about the actual conspiracy its about these guys feeling special and better than everyone. NASA which apparently has a unlimited budget for CGI and is full of smart people makes all of these super noticeable mistakes and only these internet geniuses can detect them and put the pieces together.
That MP4 artifact is common on digital TV during storms. If you drop one of the keyframes that encodes a scene-change, you see the new scene animated using the pixels from the last scene, which can look creepy when someone's face morphs into a car etc.
Saw a baseball game once and the video tore and glitched like that. Most impressive slide into home plate/rainbow madness/stands I've ever seen. Only lasted a second but it was a full acid trip as it happened!🤣
@@jansvanda Messing with videos in that way is a whole trend right now that's gotten big enough to make it to tiktok. People use those blurry compression smears to add effect or just morph between shots as a joke
Its because it doesn't fit into their rabbit hole world view that the government, big business, "someone", is trying to control them, when what is actually happening is that a few small minded but persuasive people are playing on their fears to cause disruption in any way they can using people who are gullible. But the darker side to this is people convincing others that their democracy is in danger from "others" when it is actually in danger from the people doing the convincing......sound familiar? If people believe in a flat earth they are most of the way down the hole to start with. And don't forget many of these convincers are making a very lucrative living convincing the gullible.
The weird warping is not just compression, it's keyframe data corruption, it happened a lot on video stored on CDs that get physically damaged and it also happens on livestreams that have variable connection stability which is specially the case of live video from the ISS that needs to constantly reroute and resync as the station goes around the planet a bunch of times a day having to jump between stream points all around the globe to keep a live stream connected... It's an incredible feat of technology that they can even have a live video feed, and that corruption happens when some of the data is lost and the software putting the feed together as it jumps from receiving point to point around the globe misses part of the context the fresh data is supposed to be updating. You were very close though, the partial update with new info while missing the appropriate keyframe data it's supposed to be updating over is what produces this error, but it's not simple a compression error. If anything, that warp error shows that the livestream is not a regular stable connection down on the surface.
The same thing happens with satellite and cable TV. When you drop packets of video, the computer (your tuner box for TV) will attempt to rebuild the information based on what it does have. Since the video is an ever changing data stream this results in the computer lagging behind the incoming data. That lag is what leads to the distortion.
@S S Wrong. The shielding protects the computers inside the ISS. Stellar radiation and radio frequency broadcasts are both EM radiation. Thus, the data is NOT corrupted any more than the transmission from a satellite is. Also, the OZONE causes more interference than any stellar radiation would. Corrupted data does NOT break the thing the data is on. Considering when the ISS was completed, the technology is NOT that old.
I really respect your calm demeanor during these explanations. So often, Flerfs try to get people flustered and then claim that the insults they receive "Prove their points". You give them no room to make such claims and it makes your reasoning a lot harder to dismiss. Props
Everyday, more globe believers are shocked to know that: 1. All earth images from space are fake. 2. No rocket has gone above 100 km in altitude. 3. Antarctica circumnavigation has never happened. 4. Satellites don't exist. 5. Flights never nose dive because of no curvature. 6. Flights between australia and south america never fly over Antarctica, instead it goes through northern part. 7. Moon landing is fake. 8. No 24 hour sun in Antarctica. 9. A huge difference in heat from the sun between noon and morning-evening. 10. Polar star trails are circular, but it should be straight lines or some other abstract shape if earth is flying at 800,000 kmph speed. 11. So-called space videos are from balloons using a fish eye lens camera and from 3D softwares. 12. Moon's night side is same as sky instead of black. 13. "A live telecast of rocket attached with a regular lens camera going up atleast 20,000 km in altitude or upto whole earth comes in a single frame" has never happened, no one even tried. 14. Go fast rocket hit the dome about 98 km. 15. During solar eclipse the alleged moon's shadow is about only 100 km wide and it moves from west to east , north-east to south-west and many directions. 16. Sometimes lunar eclipse occurs while the sun is still above the horizon. 17. Our eyes and senses tell that we are not moving and not spinning.
@@Isaac_Flat_Earth . Try learning some very basic physics, and then you might not make yourself look such a gormless prat. When an object leaves the surface of the Earth, it does not lose its momentum it had while on the surface. Would you step off a train while it was travelling at 100mph? According to you, it would be perfectly safe because as soon as you left the train, you would immediately stop moving.
@@grahvis After you step out a moving train, the momentum will stop eventually, you won't keep running forever just because you stepped out of a moving train.
This has always stumped me. This idea that they're all done with CGI, but then they miss these "glitches" in their work, it's absofreakinglutely absurd!
Its on purpose to muddy the waters. They want this argument for more division. They know most will never accept being fooled. They know you better than you know yourself bud. Dont forget your boosters 😂
Yeah. If it was cgi, it would mean they created the glitches sort of on purpose in the first place. Which i think they did, so they could laugh about what Flat earthers would make of it.
I mean you literally can find the answer in comments here. Half of y’all saying what you did. The other half is saying “with thousands of hours of evidence how can it be denied” lol No one said they’re ALL done with ALL CGIA BTW Anyways *with thousands of hours of evidence* it would only be a matter of time till human error leads to something only a cOnSpIrAcy TheOrIsT would catch 🤔
Not only that, their 'model of FE' does not allow them to go beyond their dome, so they are stinking jealous that they did not come up with a solution before they showed their 'model'. So they try to drag everything down, it is sickening.
@@niktes3337 i shouldn't even bother but you don't know what research means. How many studies have you actually conducted? Metastudies? Can you accurately assess the value of a research paper, do you check the institute behind the paper for biases, the people involved as well? Because that's research. Just looking at things and making statements is the opposite of that. I work in a university and I'm a researcher, it's part of my job and of my hobbies so yes; I have done my research.
@germanhernandezm.7435 I think that you're following the wrong people to the wrong conclusions if you don't believe in space or the ISS. There is plenty wrong with the world, a lot of people have a lot more power and money than they should have but it's not some shadowy cabal inventing space as a lie, it's people openly running enormous corporations that you should be mad at.
Guess there are many hours of footage that don’t show these artifacts. However when the flerfies present photographic evidence that we “see to far”, their images are not seldom compressed, cropped, or taken under heavy atmospheric condition with loads of refraction.
@@FizzleFX the differences between DVD and livestreams tend to be the resolution and amount of compression. Although for livestreams that is mostly reliant on your bandwidth because both can be tailored to the client's capability.
Look up datamoshing. It's a little artistic trick where people intentionally cause these video artefacts and get some crazy results. You can even find tutorials on how to do it yourself.
So as usual, these nefarious NASA guys are at the same time powerful enough to have such a massive conspiracy with thousands of people, but not even competent enough to have a video with good special effects.
These same conspiracy theorists will complain about how much money NASA receives- but never question why then NASA does not spend more on better video editors.
@@Jehty_ I know, right? They've also got us 99% fooled that higher I.Q. scores means we are more intelligent, and that education about a subject somehow matters before one professes to be an expert about it.
One thing flat-earthers neglect : there are space agencies all over the world. Remember what the I in ISS stands for ? I'd like to know how many highly educated people worked on the James Webb telescope, how many companies in USA, Canada, Europe, joined their efforts to design, build and launch this incredible piece of technology. Millions of competent astronomers in the world are waiting for its images. I once asked a flat-earther about the 23 astronauts who died in various space programs. He replied "They are alive, somewhere in a witness protection program". No cure for stupidity.
You'd think after video calls become common nowadays, especially after all the lockdowns, people would be used to compression artifacts during live streams already but somehow flerfs think it's some kind CGi glitch LOL...
My friend sits in his office during his video chat with me but its all blurry and jittery behind him. I reckon he's really on a space ship in orbit and his home is just fake CGI on a green screen. What a damn scammer eh?
I have been a professional film and television visual effects artist for 23 years with specific expertise on productions set in space. I love it when I inform flat earthers of this, and they still lecture me about how I’m wrong about my own veteran field of work.
So you admit that your field of expertise is special effects on productions "set in space" ... BUSTED!!! There you have it folks, one of the guys who works on the fake videos and is responsible for the sloppy work!!! You must be paid quite handsomely to maintain the cover-up and the lies 😏 I'm just goofing around. 😁🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm an audio engineer and I specialize in film and TV post-production. Sound is a Lot easier to fake than video because the brain can be fooled with sounds that are "close enough" to the actual sound while actually being something completely different 😉
I love how they alway focus on one split second when something "appears" to show they are faking everything, yet completely ignore the other hundreds or thousands of footage that can not be explained with wires, pools or cgi. Not to mention that using a harness does not fully immitate microgravity. Gravity still affects everything on and around anyone wearing the harness, and hair and clothes do not just float around. The only way microgravity can even be imitated is under water, which would make talking a bit difficult...
@@jagheterbanan If I ever get the chance to visit and stay at the ISS, I might try to bring my LEGO set of the ISS and see if it's possible to assemble the set in Zero G. You can't have wires attached to every single piece lol
You can't be an anti-science "truther" without cherry-picking. I've seen somebody zoom in on about 10x10 pixels of an apollo photograph and claim he could see Stanley Kubrick. Absolutely 100% serious too. He believed that instead of being behind the camera, Stanley hid behind a rock in the distance, so that he was almost visible in a photo. 5 minutes before that, he was claiming that it was a painted backdrop, so there was no distance for Stanley to hide in. These people will literally believe anything, even if it contradicts something else they believe, so long as it's anti-establishment.
Heck, it's as simple as looking at anyone's face. Or did NASA go out of their way to only find actors who constantly look like they're leaning forward?
@@pjalne Well NASA's not the only one sending astronauts to the ISS. If it was a hoax, then it would be a collaborative hoax with several Space agencies in Russia, Europe, etc. Which seems extremely unlikely, and since all the "evidence" for a hoax could be easily explained away, I think Flat Earthers are going to need to step up their game lol
The one were the astronaut fades out is 100% a fade transition. SciMan Dan did a video on this claim and the original video is a compilation video the astronaut made of him moving around the ISS. In the whole clip he goes through the door and instantaneously shoots back out of it going the other way which is just not possible to physically do. So there was a fade transition between him entering the door and exiting the door. Parts of the footage in the original video are sped up as well. It is a heavily edited video BUT, to be clear, just because something is edited does not mean it is fake. It was just edited to keep it interesting and short.
Wasn't he in a gorilla suit that he's taken aboard for a bit of a prank? Yeah, of course it's edited so there wasn't 5 minutes of dead air while he changed into the ape suit. Flat Earthers can never tell the truth.
Hard to beLIEve how closed minded we all once were. You were just showed na$a faking iss footage. But instead of amitting you're wrong? You make excuses and defend them, sad. trying using common sense instead of just beLIEve what everybody else thinks must be "the truth".
I love how sometimes they claim it's green screen, some times it's augmented reality and other times practical effects. Whatever could conveniently be used as evidence for a fake video
I love how some claim that the astronauts are just inside one of those planes that simulates zero-g by climbing really high and then diving really fast. Which that dive usually lasts less than a minute, so not really accounting for the streams that go on for much, much longer
@@RazgrizXMG0079 Interesting to me is the fact those zero-g aircraft follow a parabolic flight path, in three parts. The first part of each parabola is a rapid climb from level flight starting at ~350 KIAS (briefly achieving 38-47 degrees 'nose-up' angle/+1.8g) from ~7000m altitude. The second part includes the aircraft slowing down and levelling off as it approaches a peak altitude of ~9500m.. The aircraft then noses over and dives (at a nose-down angle of 38-47 degree/-1.8g max) to complete the third part of the manoeuvre. Each climb and dive section last ~20-25 seconds. The middle portion of the manoeuvre, the zero-g or more accurately the micro-g part, lasts about 25-30+ seconds. Flerfs probably can't understand how ANY of that works!
@@Jabbatic If you run the numbers you can work out the theoretical limits and I think I worked out that they fly pretty close, with a surprisingly small safety margin. I think they only have about another 20 seconds before the parabola would require them to dive past the speed limit of the aircraft. But before that (something like 35 seconds of diving at freefall speed), you pass the point where you're diving so fast and are so close to the ground, that the pull-up maneuver would be pushing the g-limit of the aircraft. So yeah, there are plenty of unedited videos where the wings would be coming off a zero-g plane well before the end. And then at around 50-60 seconds, the plane would suddenly become a hole in the ground.
I really can't wait for the moon missions to start. The Flerfs will go into melt down and release many videos "debunking" it all.. It's going to be glorious..
It won’t matter. Flat Earth and hoax beliefs like this are not about the truth but fulfilling some need in the believer. They will just move the goal post every time you corner them with reality. I do think moon colonization etc will help reduce followers.
@@CameronHuff They will still think it is fake and try to prove it and die in the process...then others will think they were killed for knowing the truth.
You will be waiting another 2-3 generations if na$a even exist that long for them to show you more cgi that you will beLIEve. Maybe your great great grand kids will see the na$a fakery one day?
Within 2 seconds of seeing the clip of the supposed CGI space station not overlaid correctly I immediately knew what was going on but the amount of research and detail you put in your explanations is actually super interesting and educational.
As someone who works in animation, and video. The idea that these 'mistakes' with the 'CGI' would not be noticed when making a video that is lying to the entire world is totally insane. We have better quality control in my work for videos with far less viewers and not trying to deceive people. Its simply that when we are used to super polished hollywood effects when we see things in reality the can appear to look cheap / less real than we expect. The 'mistakes' are always easily explained.
Thats really cool what kind of videos do you work on? I've only ever met a handful of people who work on or with computers it's pretty rare where I'm from
5:13 - Should also be mentioned that video streams send "keyframes". They are full images with all the correct pixels. If this keyframe is lost (which can happen in any videostream), the output is "stuck" using the previous keyframe it had. This can lead to the WHOLE image getting really really weird until the next full keyframe is received intact. Since the stream isn't always just sending "the new pixel", but rather "how to change". Like saying "change this portions tint +5" or "this portions so and so +18" etc.. If the foundation is something that's a keyframe or two older, the WHOLE image can suddenly go completely green or all kinds of strange behaviour. It's quite obvious that this exact example, has lost the keyframe completely, and is picking up from a place where things have moved a bit, and makes a horrible mess of the picture. I mean, this even happens in sportscasting here on earth as well... Guess sports are fake too.
I saw the ISS through my friend’s telescope that tracks objects. I could make out the panels etc. and for the flerfs, I looked into the front of the telescope to make sure NASA didn’t put a tiny model of it in there.
@@chainlink2348yeah, but it's at least real ! That's the entire point ! You can eaven open up Newtonian telescopes to see how empty they are. Infact, Newtonian telescopes have a primar parabolic mirror, a secondary mirror and a lens.
It took me exactly 12.5 seconds to debunk that 'visible wire' and realize that it's a reflection on the black screen behind him. To just automatically assume its a wire (because it fits your narrative) and not look closely at it to finally realize (very obviously) that it's a reflection, is everything I need to know about the guy trying to claim that this clip is faked. Nice try. Reality ONCE AGAIN prevails.
LEO is the true pantomime of a logical thinker. It's so easy to debunk his claims, because his claims are nothing more then 'hay look at this'. Flerfs sure do love their priming at the beginning of their videos. 😅
Adam is desperately trying to appear significant, to the point that he has to lie about his occupation (he managed to debunk himself on several occasions with that one), plus he uses (or did use) sock accounts to make positive responses to LEO's comments - he caught himself out doing that by responding to a LEO comment whilst still signed in as LEO and not his alter-ego!
It's hardly surprising they don't (and won't) understand how zero-G works, when they can't even understand how wires, CGI, greenscreen, clothing, reflections, lighting and basic physics work.
@@nospoon4799 $700 million a day would mean NASA's budget is $255 billion when in reality it is more than 10 times less than that. From where are you even getting that number?
Not only it is a pleasure to watch you (and your dog) debunking flat earthers, I also learn something new almost every time, for instance, video compression, thanks for that. Can we also appreciate the fact that, if it was CGI, Flat Earthers don't even figure out that, with NASA budget, they would do a better job than Hollywood?
Everyday, more globe believers are shocked to know that: 1. All earth images from space are fake. 2. No rocket has gone above 100 km in altitude. 3. Antarctica circumnavigation has never happened. 4. Satellites don't exist. 5. Flights never nose dive because of no curvature. 6. Flights between australia and south america never fly over Antarctica, instead it goes through northern part. 7. Moon landing is fake. 8. No 24 hour sun in Antarctica. 9. A huge difference in heat from the sun between noon and morning-evening. 10. Polar star trails are circular, but it should be straight lines or some other abstract shape if earth is flying at 800,000 kmph speed. 11. So-called space videos are from balloons using a fish eye lens camera and from 3D softwares. 12. Moon's night side is same as sky instead of black. 13. "A live telecast of rocket attached with a regular lens camera going up atleast 20,000 km in altitude or upto whole earth comes in a single frame" has never happened, no one even tried. 14. Go fast rocket hit the dome about 98 km. 15. During solar eclipse the alleged moon's shadow is about only 100 km wide and it moves from west to east , north-east to south-west and many directions. 16. Sometimes lunar eclipse occurs while the sun is still above the horizon. 17. Our eyes and senses tell that we are not moving and not spinning.
It's kinda sad you just take Daves "video compression" explanation as 100% fact without researching anything. Can you common sense? you just admitted that it looks like very bad cgi, but still beLIEve it cause na$a would do a better job? WHAT?
@@maxlevel1489 I never said it looked like bad CGI, I said, if it WAS, which is not at all, it WOULD look bad. I know enough about video compression and transmission bandwidth to know interferences can happen during live stream. I just learned something new about it, not about the whole concept. And you, you believed that NASA would release that crap if it was a post-production job using CGI? "Ohhh there, we don't see the astronauts anymore, so it must be CGI"... If that is conclusion of FlatTards, it is because they did not do any research. If by saying the Earth is Flat, you mean that you use common sense, come again.
@@maxlevel1489 you think we normal people watch ONE VIDEO then form our world basis on that? no, that's YOU guys, you watch one FLERF video and now think you've "cracked" the code and made this assumption the center of your pitiful lives. us normal people? we already know what's right and move on to more important things.
The one with the fade transition is from a longer video which uses multiple transitions as it was edited to cut out dead air etc. It's not even a secret that it was edited, either.
6:40 is from an edited video. The cross-fade was from post-production and if the clip had continued for even a couple more frames, the astronaut would have immediately come out the door he just entered. They obvious cut out some dead air while he was in that side room.
Also, one more thing I saw the Corridor guys say when making the argument that the Boston Dynamics robots aren't CGI, is that when you see the astronauts doing the back flip their center of gravity is well, where it should be, around the bellybutton or so, and so, IF they were hanging from cables, it would have very different behaviour the pivot point. Just wanted to point that out.
Another thing is that the flerfs think that 2 little wires can hold up a person prefectly and let them do all kinds of flips and fly horizontally. Then you look at the clips of Sandra Bullock
In fairness, without the full video, it is a bit of an odd one. I was expecting it to actually be a wire (of the charging variety, not the holding one up variety), until he mentioned the IPAD, and when I went back a little, I clocked there was a reflective surface over his shoulder. I didn't believe it was a wire holding him up, but it did cause me pause. That's why these FLERFers only use edited video, so they can show only the bit that supports their case.
I didn't think it was that obvious, because it seemed unlikely that such a reflective item would be behind him. Granted, if i had watched the original footage i would have seen him handling the ipad, and put it behind him - in which case you're 100% correct. But without that knowledge (as initially presented), my mind dismissed there being a highly reflective surface on the ISS. Didn't think it was a wire holding him up, but it kinda looked like something
I love how Flat Earthers know absolutely nothing about how cameras and editing work, yet still nullify any evidence that disagrees with their opinion. When they finally get the budget to go to space themselves, I will be overjoyed to laugh in their faces as I claim their evidence is also "cgi".
.......I work in film special effects and the ISS footage is clearly faked. Its made up of Green screen sections - which are limited but can run a long time. Also there are Vomit Comet shots which actually simulate zero G but can only run for about 40 seconds and there are the wire shots which all make up the desired effect. Womens hair-sprayed standing hair is giveaway and also seeing blood rushing to head when flipping over on wires. Its all there if you are secure enough to look.
@@viclimited9081 why would you need to fake footage for the iss? I understand the moon landing, but why the iss? Not only are thousands of scientists responsible for keeping the cgi a secret, but multiple countries are responsible too. I’d rather argue about “why” it’s fake rather than “how” it’s fake.
we don't need to put it to the test. IF someone genuinely believes the earth is flat then they are either simply believing someone they trust (i.e. taking them at their word) or its a lack of understanding. There is no other alternative. For those that actively seek to "prove" that the earth is flat then it has to be the latter. because they look at the evidence, and draw exactly the wrong conclusion from it. @@FlatEarth-q1f
Props to the guy who went to ask you for your opinion. Sometimes it seems rare to find a person with the critical thinking skills to go out and ask someone with a different opinion for their take.
The LEO shuttle layering claim, you did a great job of that debunk. One other point to remember and Don Pettit tweeted this just the other day. the windows on the shuttle and the ISS are often mutliple layers, so you can get many reflections of the various surfaces.
Hey Dave, found your channel via the debunking stuff you've doing (Great work by the way) but your photography stuff is brilliant. I'm a hobbyist (a Cannon Man) and absolutely loving your back catalog about photography. Especially your knowledge and breakdown of the hardware itself, Lense, APS-C, Full body etc. Awesome work. Anyone interested in photography, you really should look a Dave's other work.
I have a standing offer to any ISS denier to remote control my telescope and track ISS with my open source software. I'll wave in front of the telescope with it slightly defocused so they can see it's real and in realtime. So far, no takers.
Thank you for educating the public about video compression artifacts. I am a director of photography and an editor. Everything you bring attention to is spot on. Many thanks.
Another issue with the wire idea is that they always claim the shirt sticking up is the wires fault, but if a human body was supported by their shirt and a wire, the other side of the shirt would end up looking extremely tight. In these shots the shirt is loose all around the body, implying that it isn’t supporting the weight of a human and is therefore not attached to a wire in Earth’s gravity.
The most recent crew 6 that arrived at ISS, I just LOVE how the Russian lady slipped on a Hoodie without bothering with her wires! And then the 11 of them moving around so well and not tangling their wires in a crowded space! And kudos to the post process CGI experts who got ALL of those wires erased! WOW ! And the Best part is tossing that microphone between each other. Did ya see that! Of course, its wire was also removed in post. SO GOOD! And that Hair! Bouncing JUST RIGHT to simulate micro gravity! Oh! And when an astronaut goes down a side chamber... how do their wires not interfere with the "top" of those chambers. Thank you Dave. All the D-K top left candidates need to watch. But it won't matter to them anyway.
I used to video puppet shows. I wonder what they use as "puppeteers" on the ISS set able to pull all those strings in the correct sequence and no entanglements.
Even better if you realize that when we do zero-G stuff in movies, we often have to replace the whole background if the wires are too hard to remove. It happens fairly often, but the flerfs think effects tech is just magic.
I want them to explain how the ISS is able to travel thousands of mph which can be observed from your backyard on given dates. I had a flat earther tell me that the ISS was not real because it was just another really high object in the sky like the chinese balloon. He then said in fact is just like any other balloon. Look at this balloon and look at its solar panels. Then I asked him if he was comparing the size of an alleged weather balloon solar panel to that of the ISS. He said yes. Then I left him on read.
I love how they think a high altitude balloon can track the same path in the same time yet they never will show the math and physics behind their claim because it is like they know subconsciously it isn't right.
There's a crackpot space denier that claims it's a world wide network of SR-71 class jets that fly the projected path of the ISS, just to keep up the hoax.
And then you and a buddy do some triangulation and find that this balloon is blasting along at thousands of mph. Yeah, those chinese hypersonic spy balloons are amazing
@@st0rmforce Well responded lol. The ISS is going super fast, it rotates the Earth 16 times a day! You should have a ballon going hypersonic to do that. It's just absurd. NASA (and all of the other space agencies) have no business in lying. We all know that if the Earth was flat we would have exploited the resourceson the other side, or found a way of going there. That isn't happening
Imagine that you spent 10+ years training professionally to become an astronaut so that you could go on a 6 month-long expedition to the ISS where you conducted life changing scientific experiments, helping to propel the human race into the age of space colonisation, only to come back down to earth where you are confronted by some redneck mouth breather who thinks you were just acting in front of a green screen 🤦♂️
I love the idea that NASA has to CGI/edit in microphones and microphone cables. I didn’t know their lack of funding was so bad they couldn’t afford a microphone!
If NASA really were green screen and editing all their clips from the ISS then these kind of "blunders" wouldn't make it to the public, given the billions of dollars NASA has you'd expect flawless cinematic editing! Also all of these effects are well known inter frame compression issues, if you've ever watched Netflix on a dodgy internet connection you'll have seen things like this!
it's hilarious that they are anomaly hunting, but find rather simple "anomalies" that are effectively expected because it's an artifact, a common illusion, of just how the tech works .. and wtf they don't even understand how green screens work in any way... they are for background not foreground objects over other foreground objects.
@@Fred_the_1996 yes there is so much, of that! but you also have to remember that flat earthers are much more diverse nowadays. it used to be only a religious thing until relatively recently( as in decades). now it's a full pseudoscience conspiracy hybrid, with religious undertones. and many of them don't even know it's religious origin.
i think people willing to think that nasa is fake will find a reason why your debunk is also fake. you do a nice job calling out general ignorance of video production (which is a vast field). well done. 👍🏻🇺🇸🌌
He can debunking whatever he wants, but fake is fake. A person has to be really sick in his head to accept that it is all true. I can imagine people falling for it, because I thought it was all true. Despite the fact that I've found it hard to believe since I was a kid. We are not in the middle age, but we are in 2023. I definitely like to see his videos and certainly as entertainment and fun to hear different opinions. But one has to be realistic and I say in my opinion it is 100% fake.
@@StephenJordanJavaKrypt "yeah uh, so, they used magically advanced ai to edit these videos since decades ago, but the videos that prove the flat earth? No man, those are real, there's no way _those_ are edited"
@@StephenJordanJavaKrypt oh... If that's the case, I apologize, but you got to know, yes, you do need a /s, why? Because flatearthers actually say idiotic things like that in a non sarcastic way... But then again, my apologies man
Watching Mikhail Kornienko spending a whole year on the ISS, documenting it and then doing repeated livestreams to people on Earth and we still have people who claim its all done in a studio!
Space deniers simply refuse to believe that the ISS exists, because there is no space. Period. Ergo, nothing that emanates from there can be anything other than something faked here on Earth. Most flattards also refuse to accept that space exists beyond their "dome", so same problem for them. Must be great getting rich preying on these simple succulents.
@Wonder777 Ignorance is lacking knowledge and being unwilling to learn, if you can't even get the meaning of a word then a conversation about the ISS is well over your head!
@Wonder777 It must be fun being you, having to spend all day, every day, actually witnessing and verifying everything you want to know exists. I'll bet you weren't so bloody stupid in history class at school - assuming you actually went to one.
I'm a visual effects student and some of the VFX "mistakes" these people try to point out are laughable and totally off base to how a cig or compositing error would look
Wouldnt it be CHEAPER to have an ACTUAL space program, than to have 100 million or so people worldwide paid to be in what amounts to a 60-year movie series, and keep it black through 3 generations? Or do they not believe the technology to go into space exists at all?
@@LukeRoxALotthere’s 18000 people currently employed by NASA. Then we have all of the pilots (millions) then we need all of the other government space agencies, then all of the private space launch companies, then all of the amateur rocketry enthusiasts, then all teachers, then all of the satellite companies, then all of the cell phone companies… etc. You get the point. This would be a global conspiracy that easily has millions of people involved. And for what purpose, to lie about the world being a sphere? Or going to the moon? Not sure what delusion you subscribe to. There’s nothing to gain from doing this. If the science existed otherwise that’s just what they would say. There’s no point to making an elaborate scheme that involves the studies of mathematics, astronomy, biology, geology, etc. all being fraudulent just for some pointless lie.
One of the things I cant wrap my head is around is the fact, that they claim NASA is getting so much money and yet they seemingly cannot make cgi videos without these obvious mistakes. I mean, they love to feel so smart when they can see the "lies", yet somehow nobody how it that "NASA gets big money and yet they make junior cgi artist level mistakes".
This does not even resemble "junior cgi artist level mistakes" - they merely think so because they have no clue how such visual effects and CGI work is done. The least implausible one was the reflection on the tablet, because a reflection would represent a new place something showed up. All these sudden changes like the microphone becoming harder to see would be *harder* to do in CGI. If you actually wanted to do live wire hiding, you'd want nice, wide ropes, in a specific colour you could key out. Similar to Kuroko in japanese theater. Small details like wires make a mess of modern colour cameras with debayering, slightly less if using overlaid sensors like Foveon or 3CCD. Removing something you can only sometimes detect is hard.
NASA's budget for 2022 was 24 billions, Avengers Endgame cost 356 millions to make. So why doesn't NASA's CGI look 3 times as good as Marvel's CGI?... could it be that it's not CGI?
@@Jehty_ I live in Florida and I have seen dozens of rocket launches. If they're dumping them straight into the ocean for theater then money is no object.
@@basketvector7311 sorry, I don't understand your argument. If the goal is to make money (like the conspiracy theorists claim why NASA does exist) then money is most definitely a object. The main object in fact.
Massive Thank YOU for what you are doing. You bring back my belief in humankind. Recently I lost hope as we seem to be moving backwards. Keep doing what you are doing. I couldn't explain it better.
Just remember, you only ever hear the loudest voices. Nobody ever makes videos about how they feel normally about the moon landing. For every flat earther, there's at least ten thousand people who think NASA's pretty cool.
Ah yes, those incredible CGI artists that can fake things nobody else could as believably but also can't be bothered to edit their images or something, because of course actual live footage from SPACE would always be absolutely perfect, even better than streams done here on Earth.
I sometimes actually feel sorry for the people that believe all this stuff is faked because they are truly missing out on the wonders of space and the work NASA actually does. But then I remember they're the ones refusing the truth through their own sense of self-superiority.
There's literally nothing you could possibly do to change the flat earther's minds. Even if you put them on a rocket and took them to the ISS they'd still come up with some kind of story as to why it's not real.
Yes! I've said the same thing. It's a brainwash that they have done to themselves. I feel it's in the same realm of the religion part of the brain. Even if they were taken to space, they would say something like the windows were actually video screens, or that they were drugged etc.
To change our minds is to show real actual evidence how about u go live outside do the scientific method to show the globe, space, gravity, curvature, and the ground we walk on move if u can't do that u are a wannabe and u need to get expose for lying to our children
@@FlatEarth-q1fHow about if you trot out a map of your mythical flat earth suitable for navigation? While you're at it, you can try to explain why WGS84, which serves as the basis for the majority of the electronic navigation systems in use today, is a mathematical model of the earth as an oblate spheroid and not as a flat plane?
@@marksprague1280 flat earth is for circumnavigation wgs84 doesn't mean shyt until yall prove it live its all BS and fyi pilots all saying its not a globe
@@maxlevel1489 of course, flerfers will always argue the most convoluted explanation is the correct one, even if they couldn't explain said explanation.
@@maxlevel1489 learn some stuff, like video compression, lost data packets, bad internet connection, and video artifacts. it's not rocket science, it should be easier for your little brain
Love your videos! I feel like alot of youtuber flat earth debunkers end up acting superior and insulting flat earthers (often as a counterinsult but still). Your videos keep it professional and doesnt aim to mock them for being wrong, just explain calmly why their arguments are wrong. Keep up the quality content! ❤
Flat earth debunkers are just as bad as flat earthers. NASA fund the flat earth society, they couldn't defeat their real opponents so they funded their own!
I almost fell over laughing at the compression warping effect as Webex does that exact same thing to some of my coworkers during almost every call. This sort of thing has been a side effect of data loss in video compression since the earliest days of MPEG video in the 90’s. It tends to be worse, and more visible in video conference and live streaming setups because the key frames that clear up this distortion use a lot more data, and are therefore sent less frequently. On a DVD or streaming movie you’ll usually get multiple key frames every second, so any data corruption will result in at most a fraction of a second of glitching. Live video on the other hand often only sends a key frame every 10-15 seconds. When the effect starts to get comically bad during conference calls, the person with the glitchy stream will often wave their hands in front of their face. This extra bit of movement will usually cause the image to change enough that a new key frame gets generated, resolving the problem.
This is the second time I've seen a claim of "green screen" of an object in front of a person's body. In both these cases, the body was the background, not a green background.
nono you misunderstand. the astronauts clothes are fake too. they're actually in all green paint, so even the clothes can be CG'd live on them. i mean, obviously. because thats a totally reasonable way to fake a livestream.
My question is why in the world would NASA not correct such grievous errors in this video, and many others, if they are trying so hard to hide the shape of the earth???
That's going down the rabbit hole once u learn ancient cosmology or flat earth they know u would expose them and never would have to answer to them ever again
@@h.dejong2531 y yall keep saying we when ur azz never did any measurement go live outside and show Im tired of hearing all talk with no evidence if u can't present real proof u are a fraud wannabe and a person that doesn't know anything
It is incredibly irritating as a VFX Artist, to see someone make these claims with absolutely no idea of how VFX shots are composited, and that his claim about the windows would be more work to get wrong than to get correct and just not a mistake you could even make in reality.
The glitching - well that is just video compression and the fact that video compression is lazy and still object are essentially just held in case like Dave says. So that is exactly what we would expect to see, and isn't proof of a green screen. Normally glitches in comp with green screens actually flash the screen rather than glitch like this.
The fade transition looks to be a time laps comp, also why would you ever fade them out given you would have just roto-ed the foreground object and had him pass behind it. So that's a BS claim as it just isn't how you would manage this kind of shot.
The cable - again, this just isn't a mistake that we would make. Not only is this a rookie error, but secondly hands are a primary focus in VFX as they are a pain to deal with like 90% of the time, so and error here is really unlikely. Also TBH, this would have been an easy practical effect to do rather than doing 3D work and modeling this movement. So again, wouldn't show up in this way as an error. Also all of the resolutions do seem to match, as does the lighting on the objects and I very much doubt they would if they had done this as a VFX shot.
Wires - this is a nuts claim from a VFX point of view, as removing wires is like Day 1, and it is extremely unlikely that something like wires would be left in (including clothing deformations) on something like this given they wouldn't be hiring kids straight out of college, they would have the best of the best doing this work. And what is this "I think they faded it out", we do t fade out wires 🤦♂️
@@Now_Time_For_Science If they had the best, the best people would be missing in the actual companies, so this would be suspicious. What they do is to get to orphanages in India, pick the most skilled geek orphans and teach them how to paint. Then they are locked into a dark cellar and paint all wires out without seeing anything but the building they are locked it. Well, this part is identical to conventional VFX work. I guess the differences really just comes down to them being orphans and not as good and therefore missing wires. And adding compression artifacts when streaming their results from Kalkutta or whatever.
I love how you’re telling us all this stuff, but your dog is probably convinced you’re just sitting there talking to him while he sleeps and is just feeling it so hard lol 😄
Dog knows the truth - flat or globe it doesn't have any material impact on its own existence. I wish the stupidity of the relatively insignificant amount of flat earthers didn't both me, but it's hard to not see it as part of a larger evidence is humanity failing.. The dog is either blissfully ignorant, or fully content knowing these people will never actually influence anything with their beliefs. Sigh.. wish i was dog
@@MelodicTurtleMetal My friend there is much, much more than flat earthers proving that humanity is in deep, deep decline. Social media is now the antithesis of any and all things social. Kids no longer want to be doctors and lawyers or whatever, they just want to be gaming pros and UA-cam stars. All younger people right now seem to think that everything they have become accustomed to at their young age will be carried with them for the rest of their lives, and I’m only 36 and from everything I’ve seen change every ten years or so, kids now have no idea how much of a shock they’re in for when the generation after them disregards everything they thought was cool… just as Gen Z is doing to my generation now lol. And the cycle continues… just never as bad as this. I remember looking up to adults as a kid. Not calling them all old heads and boomers and ridiculing every single thought that comes from their head because it’s not spoken in teen speak like saying ‘Bruh’ and mentioning how ‘Lit’ everything is lol. It’s so sadly not just the flerfies though I wish it was.
Consuming this channels content has allowed me to develop an unhealthy, addiction of hate watching Flerth content. Idk why, but this conspiracy has captivated me. It feels as if we're living in an episode of the Twilight Zone. Idk whether to laugh or be concerned at how impressionable these people are, or why I enjoy seeing them be soundly refuted so much.
I stopped doing that when I saw one video where a guy claims the ISS is actually a modified U2 spy plane. Like.... these people they don't seem interested in spaceflight or aerospace or basic physics at all to them its just magic so only someone that ignorant can seriously try to claim something so bereft of logic like that, just so baffling.
I have a suspicion, that for some its an exercise in defending an incorrect position. Finding convincing arguments for something you know to be false can be good practice for defending something you do believe in. Much more than that though, is the desire for people to have secret knowledge, or just to know something others don't know. The hard way is to do research yourself, but the shortcut is to use someone else's info, be it a published scientific article, or someone's UA-cam video defending a false conclusion. Lastly, it is socially painful to admit your false belief, and I suspect the vast majority of people continuing the 'research' know the claims to be false, but won't deal with the repercussions of admitting to being convinced by a lie. In some way this can be comforting, as most don't actually believe. But its also terrifying on its own, such as when the same tendencies are employed for a more impactful claim, such as Jewish control of banks/media, or pizza store trafficking rings, or generally the claims of Q-Anon, or whatever the newest version might be.
Dunning-kruger effect can be very entertaining to watch. Those people are a perfect example of 'I cannot wrap my head around it, so it can't exist.' Which is also a hilarious self-own. Example: I understand jack-shit about painting, and it's a miracle to me how something like the Mona Lisa can be painted using what to me is colored paste. Yet I don't go around screeching how the Mona Lisa is fake just because I am too dumb and talentless to paint. But this is exactly what flerfs are doing when talking about physics and science. Them pouring water on basketballs and claiming that as proof how the oceans couldn't exist on a globe will never be not hysterical to me :D Or how on a globe, ships would always be going downhill. I still chuckle about it.
Honestly, I cannot comprehend how that patron could at all believe the things that Fleecers say, since 90% of then bring nothing beyond personal incredulity to the table, and the other 10% misrepresent established science that takes no more than five minutes of research to disprove
The footage of astronauts being weightless is unique in a sense that no holliwood movie, not even the ones with a budget worth hundreds of millions of dollars, has ever replicated it. In all space movies, the use harness is obvious.
That’s actually not true. In Apollo 13 they used a zero g flight to film the space scenes, and the actors are actually weightless. That’s why it looks so good.
@@michaelgoldstein8516 That is absolutely brilliant. I wish more movies would do that, but I suppose it isn’t very practical for any scene that can’t fit in a vomit comet
@@michaelgoldstein8516 My point was that you can't hide the harness...and you would have to use harness if the scene you broadcast is live and lasts for 20 minutes or half an hour. If you look at all the movies where actors are supposed to be weightless and use harness, you can see the harness anchor points quite clearly. Also, flat earthers dont believe in gravity...so, zero-g flight for them would also have to be "cgi" i guess.
@@michaelgoldstein8516 I've heard flat earthers claim this is what they do on the ISS. Someone in the chat said that such weightlessness only lasts for 23 seconds. I didn't bother to look it up, but it seems reasonable. Now imagine the astronauts doing enough of those flights to fill thousands of hours of video. The amazing brain of the flerfkin. It's a wonder to behold, if you can find it.
The funny part about the supposed "green screen mistake" is that people understand video data streams and compression algorithms so well that this kind of glitching is done on purpose for artistic reasons. Hell, it's so common that it has been given a name: datamoshing.
My favorite iss proof is a 50min tour of iss by Megan(?) who floats through various corridors and hatches with no sign of wires or harness. Video is uncut, continuous.
Quick correction: MP4 isn't a compression format it's a container. Encoders like h264, h265, AV1, and MPEG-4 are the compression and the encoders are what fails when data goes missing. Edit: Forgot MPEG which is MP4's main encoder. There are more encoders but they aren't important to mention.
@@snapperjessen not a matter of intelligence. It's just a very specific technical thing. A non AI robot could understand it. So don't worry about it, you're not stupid you just didn't know something rather specific.
You'd think they would spend more money on compression because no wonder flat earthers eat them up that fading does look sus to someone who doesn't understand.
The level of desperation that flat earthers exhibit in order to try and believe their own lies and delusions is staggering. I genuinely feel pity for them.
"CGI, green screens and wire harnesses". You forgot the magic hairspray these dopey creatures insist they use too. Most of the movements the astronauts do would be impossible to do smoothly and without the wires dragging against clothing etc, IF AT ALL. A lot of times they'll be moving and rolling at the same time which would be near impossible to do while under earth gravity, same with the ease of movement without arms, legs, cables etc flopping around at least a bit in earths gravity. Their arguments are laughable yet the dopey creatures could easily try and simulate it themselves and see how hard it is, actually they may have but, found out how hard to make it look real so never posted that. Gotta lie to flerf.
@@davidfoster2629 Yeah, that is a good one. The video of a large ball of water with bubbles sitting in it, or the one where they have a GoPro sitting in the middle of one though, they probably just cry "CGI" for all that. There are pictures of Sandra Bulllock harnessed up during a scene in that very bad "Gravity" movie and before wiping them out she's got wires going everywhere, even to support her legs, and she's just floating along, no twisting or rolling yet, these creatures STILL insist the astronauts are on wires. They have zero thinking ability!
This is the same exact problem that happens tobroadcast tv signals. The picture will "tile" (or pixelate) when the RF signal gets disturbed enough, that the electronic process has to resync to rebuild the picture. It looks exactly like the video footage you showed. 👍
If it were CGI, they would've looked through it and cleaned it up. But because it's real and data related, it's nothing that can be done. Hilarious how they disprove themselves.
Soooo, how is it I have snapped many pics of it while photographing the moon with my telescope? My telescope must have been pre programed with a cgi clip that shows up at random times. WHO KNEW!
@@gilleruadh Back when they started making telescopes Mr Messier started the automating cgi loaded glass. Hard to believe he knew space was cgi in the 1700s HAHAHA
On behalf of all Flat Earthers that watch this, I shall end the debate on the ridiculous "globe Earth" conspiracy theory with my following comment that you will never be able to debunk, disprove, or explain away with your scientological nonsense: "Nope. I am right and you are wrong." That is all. No further debate is necessary.
That’s all they know how to do, and their last case scenario is ridiculing, slandering, calling daddy Nasa and pseudoscience on the phone to further prove their idiotic claims. All it is, is a herd mentality. There’s no free thinkers among the crowds. They all believe what man has told them, sadly they do not know man only cares about profit and what makes them powerful. They don’t give af about the general public.
I do love the fact the flat earthers try to "debunk" something by cherry picking tiny specific things, then incorrectly observing them as proof that the whole recording is fake. The contradiction that they think we cant make technology advanced enough to zoom in on things with lenses, but then proceed to say we have this advanced on the fly video editing software makes me laugh every time.
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How you know the video not recorded to make it seem its live?
The woman astroliars hair is stupid.
I'll ask you to stop mocking indigenous peoples, isolated tribes, and the like (e.g. the North Sentinalese, lost South American tribes). We need diversity of thought in this world. Global communications have been making extinct many culture and practices, and we are fast becoming an indistinguishable blob. What a terrible loss of human diversity! STOP MOCKING THESE PEOPLE! Leave them be. If they want to think the earth is flat, so be it. Now, as for so-called "Flat Earthers" in the developed world, they are the equivalent of "Trekkie's." No one at a Las Vegas Star Trek convention believes the people walking around in costumes are real Klingons or Romulins. It's entertainment! They have conventions, merch, video games, clubs, etc. Well, the same is true for the developed world "Flat Earthers." Its entertainment! They're having fun. And for your information, intellectual clergy were among the FIRST people to study astronomy and postulate a sun-centered solar system, spherical earth. Yes, there were some isolated cases where the Church powers were abused by bad actors (just ask Galileo!), but it is simply not true that the Christian Faith preaches to this day that the earth is flat...or ever. SIMPLY NOT TRUE! That is part of the historical record. So your mockery of Christianity is historically inaccurate. At best you can snicker at them for being goofy like people snicker at the Trekkies, if that makes you feel superior. But STOP mocking indigenous peoples and spreading lies about the role of the Church in science.
@triple boostard Because we aren't dumb.
@@tripleboostard2022 That would be on you to demonstrate.
Good luck.
For my entire life I'll never be able to understand why these people think that NASA will somehow spend billions of dollars on CGI, actors, editors, keeping the conspiracy a secret, etc. But then they'll just make mistakes that would make a 9th grader taking an introductory class cringe.
It's dunning Kruger to its max. Lmao. They are experts in computer graphics now...trust me, they did 10 to 20 minutes of "research" where someone told them what to believe on a video one time.
And why such tremendous efforts just to fool a small group of people?
@@CarinaPrimaBallerina because they wanna feel special and they are the small minority that isnt brainwashed by the government yet.. They openly say that aswell.
Cos it's all about lying for the baby jesus and nothing whatsoever about making a case for alternative science.
@@MrJiffytiffy, I think you are giving flerfs way too much credit! They definitely don’t spend 10-20 minutes “researching”. They simply hear another uneducated numpty say something really silly and then claim it as fact. Research to them is hearing something, repeating it as fact(if.. and only if it agrees with their preselected conclusion), being debunked thoroughly with little to no effort, and nu-uhing anything they don’t like.
I love how they focus on 5 seconds of footage, but will happily ignore the 10,000 hours of ISS footage that debunks their little ‘theory.’
Oh yeah. Especially all those ISS tours, which are usually done in one long uninterrupted take, taking us across the _entire_ station.
Cherry-picking
You don’t even need all that. Just watch Chris Hadfield sing “Space Odyssey”.
Finished watching? Good, it’s a great video. Now, watch it again but look at the watch on his left wrist.
EDIT: Just for the record, not a Flat Earther. I didn't realize his watch jangling around in whatever direction it pleases, unlike anything having to deal with gravity ever could, was something Flerfs would think proves their argument. Apologies for the confusion. The Earth is round.
@@pretzelbomb6105 no.
@@Jan_Strzelecki such a video does not exist.
I love how NASA (or whoever is "faking" space being a thing) are both so inept at special effects that they left in an obvious segment of the actor fading away but also so incredibly good that they can perfectly hide a wire trapeze system for little backflip stunts while live on air
What about the mathematical proof that the earth is round? Where’s your mathematical evidence that it’s flat? How long have you been a scientist? How long have you studied the earth?
@@wildonstokes huh?
@@utes5532 how long have you studied space? You said nasa is lying so how long have you been studying space?
@@wildonstokes Reread that comment a couple times buddy, he didn't say NASA is lying.
@@kirkkerman he did by basically saying they’re faking the space landing dummy
I'll never understand how people can think its fake, when you can literally see it with your own eyes some nights when it passes over.
There will always be someone who believes in some ridiculous things, we are lucky to have as much intelligent people as we do.
LOLOL....How do you ignore the guy in the USMC shirt pulling on the string???LOLOL....Wow, I didnt realize Dave McKeegan was such a dunce
@@philindeblanc LOLOL....How did NASA ignore the guy in the USMC shirt pulling on the string???LOLOL....Wow, I didnt realize NASA was such a dunce
@@2nd3rd1st NASA we know is full of BS and fakery, but this POS Dave is taking it to next level gaslighting and completely ignoring material people have sent him. He should be punished.
Hell, I even took a picture of it!
Conspiracy theorists have got to be the only people who get happy when they see video compression.
Yay! Artifacts!
If you do a search for "Datamoshing," you'll find there's a pretty robust community out there that has turned these artifacts into an artform.
Video artifacts are the only facts these ridiculous flat-earth buffoons seem to care about.
MPEG compression, JPG artefacts, lens flares, cheap cameras, etc. Proof of conspiracies seems to always be found in low-quality footage that's ambiguous to interpret.
also seem to be correct,.... EVERY TIME loll.... so,.. whos the dumb ones again? remember before they admitted about aliens,... and all the jokes made,... fa,ilies ruined,.. then come out and say yeeea they here loll... nit wits man.
I love how stuff like this actually proves that it’s not CGI, because no respectable CGI artist (that „bloated“ budget has to go somewhere if space is fake) would leave such a glaring error…
In the minds of a flat earther...
"Guys what about this sh*tty CGI glitch in the end?
- Nah leave it bro they're dumb and nobody's gonna understand it's CGI
- Oh okay. And for that snake tongue on our logo...?
- Yeah they're so dumb we have to give hints about our lies
- To destroy our millenia-long conspiracy.
- Yeah!"
And what's worse is that CGI artist could never put this on their resume. Why would they take the job? If I did such convincing CGI that I fooled 2 generations of people into thinking space was real I'd really want to put that on a resume.
Yup, this is why we all know that none of this is about the actual conspiracy its about these guys feeling special and better than everyone. NASA which apparently has a unlimited budget for CGI and is full of smart people makes all of these super noticeable mistakes and only these internet geniuses can detect them and put the pieces together.
@@LiperioHK And will also choose an acronym that means "to deceive" so that no one will know we want to deceive them.
@@zman245 It’s a bit like the “Paul McCartney is really dead” conspiracy theory, yet there are supposedly hundreds of careless “ clues”…
Deniers on Monday: "the video is grainy so it's faked"
Deniers on Tuesday: "the video is too clear so it's faked"
Deniers on Friday: “the video exists, so it’s faked.”
Deniers on wednesday: "thousands of alien ships are flying around the ISS, but I don't see anything
Deniers on Thursday: the video is fake because shadows exist
THE VIDEO IS RAPPING ME !!!
In that time scale (one day) NASA "earned" $700million.
That MP4 artifact is common on digital TV during storms. If you drop one of the keyframes that encodes a scene-change, you see the new scene animated using the pixels from the last scene, which can look creepy when someone's face morphs into a car etc.
There is even a software to remove keyframes from video, so everything that is left are the diff data. It is obviously very "LSD-like".
Saw a baseball game once and the video tore and glitched like that. Most impressive slide into home plate/rainbow madness/stands I've ever seen. Only lasted a second but it was a full acid trip as it happened!🤣
@@jansvanda Messing with videos in that way is a whole trend right now that's gotten big enough to make it to tiktok. People use those blurry compression smears to add effect or just morph between shots as a joke
@@Vespuchianlol
Lol
Always amazes me that they will happily accept "special effects problems" but dismiss out of hand the possibility of actual video problems.
Always amazes me that they will happily accept "special effects problems" but dismiss out of hand the possibility of actual video fakery.
@@maxlevel1489 maybe they're faking the special effect problems
@@maxlevel1489 dismissed because of lack of evidence. just like your brain.
Its because it doesn't fit into their rabbit hole world view that the government, big business, "someone", is trying to control them, when what is actually happening is that a few small minded but persuasive people are playing on their fears to cause disruption in any way they can using people who are gullible. But the darker side to this is people convincing others that their democracy is in danger from "others" when it is actually in danger from the people doing the convincing......sound familiar? If people believe in a flat earth they are most of the way down the hole to start with. And don't forget many of these convincers are making a very lucrative living convincing the gullible.
they went to the moon in the 60's but cant stop mistakes in this day and age of tech. With almost 70 million a day paycheck i could do better
The weird warping is not just compression, it's keyframe data corruption, it happened a lot on video stored on CDs that get physically damaged and it also happens on livestreams that have variable connection stability which is specially the case of live video from the ISS that needs to constantly reroute and resync as the station goes around the planet a bunch of times a day having to jump between stream points all around the globe to keep a live stream connected... It's an incredible feat of technology that they can even have a live video feed, and that corruption happens when some of the data is lost and the software putting the feed together as it jumps from receiving point to point around the globe misses part of the context the fresh data is supposed to be updating. You were very close though, the partial update with new info while missing the appropriate keyframe data it's supposed to be updating over is what produces this error, but it's not simple a compression error.
If anything, that warp error shows that the livestream is not a regular stable connection down on the surface.
" keyframe data corruption" is also known as "evidence of fakery". Why NASA would choose to use low grade quality video is beyond me.
@becky doesit Refer to the comment above. And with data being not that easy to transfer there are more important things to send that that.
The same thing happens with satellite and cable TV. When you drop packets of video, the computer (your tuner box for TV) will attempt to rebuild the information based on what it does have. Since the video is an ever changing data stream this results in the computer lagging behind the incoming data. That lag is what leads to the distortion.
@S S Wrong. The shielding protects the computers inside the ISS. Stellar radiation and radio frequency broadcasts are both EM radiation. Thus, the data is NOT corrupted any more than the transmission from a satellite is. Also, the OZONE causes more interference than any stellar radiation would. Corrupted data does NOT break the thing the data is on. Considering when the ISS was completed, the technology is NOT that old.
@@beckydoesit9331 So you think NASA would use the most-expensive, highest-quality video technology for something as low priority as a PR event?
I really respect your calm demeanor during these explanations.
So often, Flerfs try to get people flustered and then claim that the insults they receive "Prove their points".
You give them no room to make such claims and it makes your reasoning a lot harder to dismiss. Props
Flerfs are usually the ones who respond to questions with insults. Mainly because they have no answers.
Everyday, more globe believers are shocked to know that:
1. All earth images from space are fake.
2. No rocket has gone above 100 km in altitude.
3. Antarctica circumnavigation has never happened.
4. Satellites don't exist.
5. Flights never nose dive because of no curvature.
6. Flights between australia and south america never fly over Antarctica, instead it goes through northern part.
7. Moon landing is fake.
8. No 24 hour sun in Antarctica.
9. A huge difference in heat from the sun between noon and morning-evening.
10. Polar star trails are circular, but it should be straight lines or some other abstract shape if earth is flying at 800,000 kmph speed.
11. So-called space videos are from balloons using a fish eye lens camera and from 3D softwares.
12. Moon's night side is same as sky instead of black.
13. "A live telecast of rocket attached with a regular lens camera going up atleast 20,000 km in altitude or upto whole earth comes in a single frame" has never happened, no one even tried.
14. Go fast rocket hit the dome about 98 km.
15. During solar eclipse the alleged moon's shadow is about only 100 km wide and it moves from west to east , north-east to south-west and many directions.
16. Sometimes lunar eclipse occurs while the sun is still above the horizon.
17. Our eyes and senses tell that we are not moving and not spinning.
It won't stop them from calling him a shill. The Flat Earth community is a cult and, thus, shall be treated as such.
@@Isaac_Flat_Earth .
Try learning some very basic physics, and then you might not make yourself look such a gormless prat.
When an object leaves the surface of the Earth, it does not lose its momentum it had while on the surface.
Would you step off a train while it was travelling at 100mph? According to you, it would be perfectly safe because as soon as you left the train, you would immediately stop moving.
@@grahvis After you step out a moving train, the momentum will stop eventually, you won't keep running forever just because you stepped out of a moving train.
This has always stumped me. This idea that they're all done with CGI, but then they miss these "glitches" in their work, it's absofreakinglutely absurd!
Its on purpose to muddy the waters. They want this argument for more division. They know most will never accept being fooled. They know you better than you know yourself bud. Dont forget your boosters 😂
Yeah. If it was cgi, it would mean they created the glitches sort of on purpose in the first place. Which i think they did, so they could laugh about what Flat earthers would make of it.
I mean you literally can find the answer in comments here. Half of y’all saying what you did. The other half is saying “with thousands of hours of evidence how can it be denied” lol
No one said they’re ALL done with ALL CGIA BTW
Anyways *with thousands of hours of evidence* it would only be a matter of time till human error leads to something only a cOnSpIrAcy TheOrIsT would catch 🤔
Not only that, their 'model of FE' does not allow them to go beyond their dome, so they are stinking jealous that they did not come up with a solution before they showed their 'model'. So they try to drag everything down, it is sickening.
The conspiracy can only be as smart as the idiot uncovering it.
Yay!!! LEO, the man that put the "STU" in "STUPID"
Tidy, Creaky!
And I thought that honour fell to Taffy 🤣
I could buy a screw making mega-factory just for the sole purpose of making loosely fitting screws, and I still wouldn't have a scratch on LEO.
Hahaha.... comment of the week!!!!
"I don't entirely know what's going on"
- LEO
It all comes down to "it's easy to see a conspiracy in everything if you have no idea how anything works".
@@niktes3337 i shouldn't even bother but you don't know what research means. How many studies have you actually conducted? Metastudies? Can you accurately assess the value of a research paper, do you check the institute behind the paper for biases, the people involved as well? Because that's research. Just looking at things and making statements is the opposite of that. I work in a university and I'm a researcher, it's part of my job and of my hobbies so yes; I have done my research.
That’s true but it’s also easy to see untruths when you’ve been told your entire life that it is true.
Very well put
we dont need to know eveithing to be able to watch cables pulling shirts ,.. do you thing we are turds
@germanhernandezm.7435 I think that you're following the wrong people to the wrong conclusions if you don't believe in space or the ISS. There is plenty wrong with the world, a lot of people have a lot more power and money than they should have but it's not some shadowy cabal inventing space as a lie, it's people openly running enormous corporations that you should be mad at.
love how it's only ever 2-3 frames of an entire stream being transmitted in the low kbps that people think can be proof of anything
Guess there are many hours of footage that don’t show these artifacts.
However when the flerfies present photographic evidence that we “see to far”, their images are not seldom compressed, cropped, or taken under heavy atmospheric condition with loads of refraction.
Yea, those "low kbps" moments showing actual wire harnesses, it all "video compression".
@@maxlevel1489 common flerfer L:
choosing the most convoluted explanation out of all possible explanations
@@maxlevel1489 Since no video has yet shown "actual wire harnesses" on the ISS your comment was pointless.
@@maxlevel1489 you know that, of all conspiracy theories, you chose the absolute dumbest, right? How do you remember to breathe?
Imagine having never seen an MP4 compression error before and thinking you’ve discovered something earth-shattering
It's actually INTRAFRAME and such. Compression but not the likes you find in DVD but Livestreams.
Captain D... explains it well
@@FizzleFX the differences between DVD and livestreams tend to be the resolution and amount of compression. Although for livestreams that is mostly reliant on your bandwidth because both can be tailored to the client's capability.
Imagine being this gullible.
Frankly i never see artefact only the moving part before could you lead me to website or video
Look up datamoshing. It's a little artistic trick where people intentionally cause these video artefacts and get some crazy results. You can even find tutorials on how to do it yourself.
So as usual, these nefarious NASA guys are at the same time powerful enough to have such a massive conspiracy with thousands of people, but not even competent enough to have a video with good special effects.
These same conspiracy theorists will complain about how much money NASA receives- but never question why then NASA does not spend more on better video editors.
@@chameleon47 why should they?
Clearly it's enough to fool 99% of the population 🤣
@@Jehty_ I know, right? They've also got us 99% fooled that higher I.Q. scores means we are more intelligent, and that education about a subject somehow matters before one professes to be an expert about it.
@@chameleon47 LMAO NICE
One thing flat-earthers neglect : there are space agencies all over the world. Remember what the I in ISS stands for ? I'd like to know how many highly educated people worked on the James Webb telescope, how many companies in USA, Canada, Europe, joined their efforts to design, build and launch this incredible piece of technology.
Millions of competent astronomers in the world are waiting for its images. I once asked a flat-earther about the 23 astronauts who died in various space programs. He replied
"They are alive, somewhere in a witness protection program". No cure for stupidity.
They really have NO idea how good CGI is these days. If it was CGI none of these things would happen lol
Actually, Thanos's fingers were clipping
Unless it's done by today's Disney.
@@Perktube1 you have no clue about CGI, right?
@@i-deni-i5138 no, Thanos' fingers were obviously snapping.
not all donuts come out with holes
You'd think after video calls become common nowadays, especially after all the lockdowns, people would be used to compression artifacts during live streams already but somehow flerfs think it's some kind CGi glitch LOL...
My friend sits in his office during his video chat with me but its all blurry and jittery behind him. I reckon he's really on a space ship in orbit and his home is just fake CGI on a green screen. What a damn scammer eh?
@@ShizukuSeiji your friend is a paid actor...lol 😂
But Adam has no friends to do video calls with.
Incidental, but I cannot stop reading "Flerf" as "FLat Exclusionary Radical Feminist".
I have been a professional film and television visual effects artist for 23 years with specific expertise on productions set in space. I love it when I inform flat earthers of this, and they still lecture me about how I’m wrong about my own veteran field of work.
So you admit that your field of expertise is special effects on productions "set in space" ... BUSTED!!!
There you have it folks, one of the guys who works on the fake videos and is responsible for the sloppy work!!!
You must be paid quite handsomely to maintain the cover-up and the lies 😏
I'm just goofing around. 😁🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm an audio engineer and I specialize in film and TV post-production.
Sound is a Lot easier to fake than video because the brain can be fooled with sounds that are "close enough" to the actual sound while actually being something completely different 😉
@@vladpadowicz5946 oh jeez, that was a very convincing flat earther impression!
@@vladpadowicz5946 phew! I almost thought you were a flerf for a second
yeah, same happend to me when i tell them im spiderman
It doesnt matter what your expertise or title is if all you are going to do with it is deceive people.
I love how they alway focus on one split second when something "appears" to show they are faking everything, yet completely ignore the other hundreds or thousands of footage that can not be explained with wires, pools or cgi. Not to mention that using a harness does not fully immitate microgravity. Gravity still affects everything on and around anyone wearing the harness, and hair and clothes do not just float around. The only way microgravity can even be imitated is under water, which would make talking a bit difficult...
Making watches and necklaces flapp around is another thing wires can’t do.
@@jagheterbanan If I ever get the chance to visit and stay at the ISS, I might try to bring my LEGO set of the ISS and see if it's possible to assemble the set in Zero G. You can't have wires attached to every single piece lol
You can't be an anti-science "truther" without cherry-picking.
I've seen somebody zoom in on about 10x10 pixels of an apollo photograph and claim he could see Stanley Kubrick. Absolutely 100% serious too.
He believed that instead of being behind the camera, Stanley hid behind a rock in the distance, so that he was almost visible in a photo. 5 minutes before that, he was claiming that it was a painted backdrop, so there was no distance for Stanley to hide in.
These people will literally believe anything, even if it contradicts something else they believe, so long as it's anti-establishment.
Heck, it's as simple as looking at anyone's face. Or did NASA go out of their way to only find actors who constantly look like they're leaning forward?
@@pjalne Well NASA's not the only one sending astronauts to the ISS. If it was a hoax, then it would be a collaborative hoax with several Space agencies in Russia, Europe, etc. Which seems extremely unlikely, and since all the "evidence" for a hoax could be easily explained away, I think Flat Earthers are going to need to step up their game lol
When a flat earther says something is something without a shadow of a doubt, than that is wrong without a shadow of a doubt.
They’re so paranoid yet so quick to believe the first thing they see without thinking any further.
No wonder it’s such a dangerous mindset
We all could be rich if flat earthers starts claiming they know anything about stocks and tell which to not buy, which 100% the ones we should buy.
Speaking of shadows ua-cam.com/video/KdauBLH4z0M/v-deo.html
And they may in fact, be doubting a shadow
I guess this should be Toon's law of flerfers #13, or something like that. If it isn't already a Toon's law
The one were the astronaut fades out is 100% a fade transition. SciMan Dan did a video on this claim and the original video is a compilation video the astronaut made of him moving around the ISS. In the whole clip he goes through the door and instantaneously shoots back out of it going the other way which is just not possible to physically do. So there was a fade transition between him entering the door and exiting the door. Parts of the footage in the original video are sped up as well. It is a heavily edited video BUT, to be clear, just because something is edited does not mean it is fake. It was just edited to keep it interesting and short.
Wasn't he in a gorilla suit that he's taken aboard for a bit of a prank? Yeah, of course it's edited so there wasn't 5 minutes of dead air while he changed into the ape suit. Flat Earthers can never tell the truth.
@@synthetic240 idk if it was this clip but that ape suit prank was gold.
You mean a conspiracy theorist was dishonestly cherrypicking?
[Shocked pikachu meme]
Hard to beLIEve how closed minded we all once were.
You were just showed na$a faking iss footage. But instead of amitting you're wrong?
You make excuses and defend them, sad.
trying using common sense instead of just beLIEve what everybody else thinks must be "the truth".
@max level right back at you.
Maybe try thinking instead of deciding to believe literally any nonsense, so long as it's anti-nasa
I love how sometimes they claim it's green screen, some times it's augmented reality and other times practical effects. Whatever could conveniently be used as evidence for a fake video
I love how some claim that the astronauts are just inside one of those planes that simulates zero-g by climbing really high and then diving really fast. Which that dive usually lasts less than a minute, so not really accounting for the streams that go on for much, much longer
@@RazgrizXMG0079 while also destroying their claim that gravity doesn't exist.
@@RazgrizXMG0079 Interesting to me is the fact those zero-g aircraft follow a parabolic flight path, in three parts. The first part of each parabola is a rapid climb from level flight starting at ~350 KIAS (briefly achieving 38-47 degrees 'nose-up' angle/+1.8g) from ~7000m altitude. The second part includes the aircraft slowing down and levelling off as it approaches a peak altitude of ~9500m.. The aircraft then noses over and dives (at a nose-down angle of 38-47 degree/-1.8g max) to complete the third part of the manoeuvre. Each climb and dive section last ~20-25 seconds. The middle portion of the manoeuvre, the zero-g or more accurately the micro-g part, lasts about 25-30+ seconds. Flerfs probably can't understand how ANY of that works!
@@Jabbatic If you run the numbers you can work out the theoretical limits and I think I worked out that they fly pretty close, with a surprisingly small safety margin. I think they only have about another 20 seconds before the parabola would require them to dive past the speed limit of the aircraft. But before that (something like 35 seconds of diving at freefall speed), you pass the point where you're diving so fast and are so close to the ground, that the pull-up maneuver would be pushing the g-limit of the aircraft.
So yeah, there are plenty of unedited videos where the wings would be coming off a zero-g plane well before the end.
And then at around 50-60 seconds, the plane would suddenly become a hole in the ground.
Sometimes it's underwater too haha
I really can't wait for the moon missions to start. The Flerfs will go into melt down and release many videos "debunking" it all.. It's going to be glorious..
Maybe we could send them to the moon instead.
@@CameronHuff only give them fuel to get there not back tho
It won’t matter. Flat Earth and hoax beliefs like this are not about the truth but fulfilling some need in the believer. They will just move the goal post every time you corner them with reality.
I do think moon colonization etc will help reduce followers.
@@CameronHuff They will still think it is fake and try to prove it and die in the process...then others will think they were killed for knowing the truth.
You will be waiting another 2-3 generations if na$a even exist that long for them to show you more cgi that you will beLIEve.
Maybe your great great grand kids will see the na$a fakery one day?
Within 2 seconds of seeing the clip of the supposed CGI space station not overlaid correctly I immediately knew what was going on but the amount of research and detail you put in your explanations is actually super interesting and educational.
Seriously. How you could see that and not realize it's shadow is just... sad.
@@xyex because they're envious they'll never amount to anything unless they put in effort, and they don't want to do that.
@@xyex Yep. When I saw the heavy glare on the window, my first thought was that the black is a portion with no glare -- such as a portion in shadow.
Except it's not a shadow, it's space.
@@chrisjacobsen1659 No. It's shadow.
As someone who works in animation, and video. The idea that these 'mistakes' with the 'CGI' would not be noticed when making a video that is lying to the entire world is totally insane. We have better quality control in my work for videos with far less viewers and not trying to deceive people. Its simply that when we are used to super polished hollywood effects when we see things in reality the can appear to look cheap / less real than we expect. The 'mistakes' are always easily explained.
Thats really cool what kind of videos do you work on? I've only ever met a handful of people who work on or with computers it's pretty rare where I'm from
Correct
I think it's hilarious that they think NASA is using special effects to fake microphones and cables.
have you ever seen a real microphone? go try to buy one, and the UN military will stop you in accordance with the antarctic treaty.
@@mcstark2700 I thought it was the Jewish Masonic Nazi military enforcing the ice wall visiting restrictions . . .
@@mcstark2700 you have to be royalty and high up in the government to buy microphones with cables.
@@mcstark2700 I have a microphone connected to my PC, but I have to keep it hidden inside a dead cat in case the microphone police raid my study.
Faking the cables make sense.
If it was filmed on earth the cables would behave differently. So you would have to fake them to make it look real.
5:13 - Should also be mentioned that video streams send "keyframes". They are full images with all the correct pixels. If this keyframe is lost (which can happen in any videostream), the output is "stuck" using the previous keyframe it had. This can lead to the WHOLE image getting really really weird until the next full keyframe is received intact. Since the stream isn't always just sending "the new pixel", but rather "how to change". Like saying "change this portions tint +5" or "this portions so and so +18" etc.. If the foundation is something that's a keyframe or two older, the WHOLE image can suddenly go completely green or all kinds of strange behaviour.
It's quite obvious that this exact example, has lost the keyframe completely, and is picking up from a place where things have moved a bit, and makes a horrible mess of the picture.
I mean, this even happens in sportscasting here on earth as well... Guess sports are fake too.
I saw the ISS through my friend’s telescope that tracks objects. I could make out the panels etc. and for the flerfs, I looked into the front of the telescope to make sure NASA didn’t put a tiny model of it in there.
Seeing something in the sky doesn’t prove that people are orbiting the earth at 17000 mph
@@chainlink2348yeah, but it's at least real ! That's the entire point ! You can eaven open up Newtonian telescopes to see how empty they are. Infact, Newtonian telescopes have a primar parabolic mirror, a secondary mirror and a lens.
@@chainlink2348 Yes it does.
So what, there is something out there.....doesnt make these video they put out any less fake.
I hate to break it to you, but it's not fake. You're just dumb@@GreatNewsVideo
I find it ironic that Level Earth Observer has the same initials as Low Earth Orbit.
If only He'd go meet some hams in his region talking to a LEO satellite via ham radio.
It’s not ironic as he did it on purpose.
Its the same acronym for Lacking Evolution Organism.
It took me exactly 12.5 seconds to debunk that 'visible wire' and realize that it's a reflection on the black screen behind him.
To just automatically assume its a wire (because it fits your narrative) and not look closely at it to finally realize (very obviously) that it's a reflection, is everything I need to know about the guy trying to claim that this clip is faked.
Nice try. Reality ONCE AGAIN prevails.
LEO is the true pantomime of a logical thinker.
It's so easy to debunk his claims, because his claims are nothing more then 'hay look at this'.
Flerfs sure do love their priming at the beginning of their videos. 😅
Adam is desperately trying to appear significant, to the point that he has to lie about his occupation (he managed to debunk himself on several occasions with that one), plus he uses (or did use) sock accounts to make positive responses to LEO's comments - he caught himself out doing that by responding to a LEO comment whilst still signed in as LEO and not his alter-ego!
Well Adam (LEO) is a proven liar.
@@dogwalker666 They all are.
@@GeistView Gottalietoflurf!
I read LEO as Low Earth Orbit until I realized what it actually is
It's hardly surprising they don't (and won't) understand how zero-G works, when they can't even understand how wires, CGI, greenscreen, clothing, reflections, lighting and basic physics work.
Saying our government is smart enough to pull this off is mindboggling.
And not just one government, every government in the world would have to cooperate for this pointless conspiracy. I somehow doubt that would happen.
@@ida6950 pov: it is 2060 and it is actually true
$700 million a day buys a lot of smart people.
@@nospoon4799 $700 million a day would mean NASA's budget is $255 billion when in reality it is more than 10 times less than that. From where are you even getting that number?
and yet dumb enough to leave in obvious SFX errors in
Not only it is a pleasure to watch you (and your dog) debunking flat earthers, I also learn something new almost every time, for instance, video compression, thanks for that.
Can we also appreciate the fact that, if it was CGI, Flat Earthers don't even figure out that, with NASA budget, they would do a better job than Hollywood?
Everyday, more globe believers are shocked to know that:
1. All earth images from space are fake.
2. No rocket has gone above 100 km in altitude.
3. Antarctica circumnavigation has never happened.
4. Satellites don't exist.
5. Flights never nose dive because of no curvature.
6. Flights between australia and south america never fly over Antarctica, instead it goes through northern part.
7. Moon landing is fake.
8. No 24 hour sun in Antarctica.
9. A huge difference in heat from the sun between noon and morning-evening.
10. Polar star trails are circular, but it should be straight lines or some other abstract shape if earth is flying at 800,000 kmph speed.
11. So-called space videos are from balloons using a fish eye lens camera and from 3D softwares.
12. Moon's night side is same as sky instead of black.
13. "A live telecast of rocket attached with a regular lens camera going up atleast 20,000 km in altitude or upto whole earth comes in a single frame" has never happened, no one even tried.
14. Go fast rocket hit the dome about 98 km.
15. During solar eclipse the alleged moon's shadow is about only 100 km wide and it moves from west to east , north-east to south-west and many directions.
16. Sometimes lunar eclipse occurs while the sun is still above the horizon.
17. Our eyes and senses tell that we are not moving and not spinning.
It's kinda sad you just take Daves "video compression" explanation as 100% fact without researching anything.
Can you common sense?
you just admitted that it looks like very bad cgi, but still beLIEve it cause na$a would do a better job?
WHAT?
@@maxlevel1489 I never said it looked like bad CGI, I said, if it WAS, which is not at all, it WOULD look bad. I know enough about video compression and transmission bandwidth to know interferences can happen during live stream. I just learned something new about it, not about the whole concept.
And you, you believed that NASA would release that crap if it was a post-production job using CGI? "Ohhh there, we don't see the astronauts anymore, so it must be CGI"... If that is conclusion of FlatTards, it is because they did not do any research.
If by saying the Earth is Flat, you mean that you use common sense, come again.
@@maxlevel1489 you think we normal people watch ONE VIDEO then form our world basis on that?
no, that's YOU guys, you watch one FLERF video and now think you've "cracked" the code and made this assumption the center of your pitiful lives.
us normal people? we already know what's right and move on to more important things.
@@maxlevel1489 The ironyyyyyyyyyyy~~~~!!!!!!!!! If you had ANY common sense you wouldn't even writing that comment!
The one with the fade transition is from a longer video which uses multiple transitions as it was edited to cut out dead air etc. It's not even a secret that it was edited, either.
6:40 is from an edited video. The cross-fade was from post-production and if the clip had continued for even a couple more frames, the astronaut would have immediately come out the door he just entered. They obvious cut out some dead air while he was in that side room.
Also, one more thing I saw the Corridor guys say when making the argument that the Boston Dynamics robots aren't CGI, is that when you see the astronauts doing the back flip their center of gravity is well, where it should be, around the bellybutton or so, and so, IF they were hanging from cables, it would have very different behaviour the pivot point. Just wanted to point that out.
Another thing is that the flerfs think that 2 little wires can hold up a person prefectly and let them do all kinds of flips and fly horizontally.
Then you look at the clips of Sandra Bullock
@@st0rmforce They're not exactly the sharpest light bulb in the crayon shed.
And their words are more credible because they actually do work with CGI. They would know better than a flerf who can't even focus their camera LOL...
And no harness setup will accommodate the crew welcome ceremonies, 6-7 people doing crossovers, coming from a tight door.
Wow, I did a video call to my mum the other day. It did some crazy encoding errors. Turns out my mum is just a NASA plot.
Is she REALLY your mom?
@@jimsmith7212 oof hahaha
She is a alien
Your Mum must be CGI ??
That makes you also CGI
I particularly appreciated the one where there was an obvious reflection on a glass surface that Low Earth Oddity thought was a wire.
In fairness, without the full video, it is a bit of an odd one. I was expecting it to actually be a wire (of the charging variety, not the holding one up variety), until he mentioned the IPAD, and when I went back a little, I clocked there was a reflective surface over his shoulder.
I didn't believe it was a wire holding him up, but it did cause me pause. That's why these FLERFers only use edited video, so they can show only the bit that supports their case.
Can you explain this one away? /watch?v=V7Orn0erGyw
I didn't think it was that obvious, because it seemed unlikely that such a reflective item would be behind him.
Granted, if i had watched the original footage i would have seen him handling the ipad, and put it behind him - in which case you're 100% correct. But without that knowledge (as initially presented), my mind dismissed there being a highly reflective surface on the ISS. Didn't think it was a wire holding him up, but it kinda looked like something
@@maxlevel1489 I'm not watching the entire thing. Kindly provide a link to the time you want me to obliterate :)
@@maxlevel1489 "Can you explain this one away?"
Yes, its a 45 minute rambling conversation between two people neither of whom have a clue.
I love how Flat Earthers know absolutely nothing about how cameras and editing work, yet still nullify any evidence that disagrees with their opinion. When they finally get the budget to go to space themselves, I will be overjoyed to laugh in their faces as I claim their evidence is also "cgi".
.......I work in film special effects and the ISS footage is clearly faked. Its made up of Green screen sections - which are limited but can run a long time. Also there are Vomit Comet shots which actually simulate zero G but can only run for about 40 seconds and there are the wire shots which all make up the desired effect. Womens hair-sprayed standing hair is giveaway and also seeing blood rushing to head when flipping over on wires. Its all there if you are secure enough to look.
@@viclimited9081 why would you need to fake footage for the iss? I understand the moon landing, but why the iss? Not only are thousands of scientists responsible for keeping the cgi a secret, but multiple countries are responsible too. I’d rather argue about “why” it’s fake rather than “how” it’s fake.
I happy that you do this. I'm not happy that it needs to be done. :)
One of my favorite things to say to people that believe in things like flat earth…”I can explain it for you, but I can’t understand it for you”
Do u want to put that to the test i bet u will run
we don't need to put it to the test. IF someone genuinely believes the earth is flat then they are either simply believing someone they trust (i.e. taking them at their word) or its a lack of understanding. There is no other alternative. For those that actively seek to "prove" that the earth is flat then it has to be the latter. because they look at the evidence, and draw exactly the wrong conclusion from it. @@FlatEarth-q1f
Props to the guy who went to ask you for your opinion. Sometimes it seems rare to find a person with the critical thinking skills to go out and ask someone with a different opinion for their take.
They’re always quick to spout the “how” but when you ask them “why this would all be fake” they can’t give you an answer
The LEO shuttle layering claim, you did a great job of that debunk. One other point to remember and Don Pettit tweeted this just the other day. the windows on the shuttle and the ISS are often mutliple layers, so you can get many reflections of the various surfaces.
Hey Dave, found your channel via the debunking stuff you've doing (Great work by the way) but your photography stuff is brilliant. I'm a hobbyist (a Cannon Man) and absolutely loving your back catalog about photography. Especially your knowledge and breakdown of the hardware itself, Lense, APS-C, Full body etc. Awesome work.
Anyone interested in photography, you really should look a Dave's other work.
I have a standing offer to any ISS denier to remote control my telescope and track ISS with my open source software. I'll wave in front of the telescope with it slightly defocused so they can see it's real and in realtime. So far, no takers.
Not necessarily an ISS denier but interested lol
Thank you for educating the public about video compression artifacts. I am a director of photography and an editor. Everything you bring attention to is spot on. Many thanks.
Another issue with the wire idea is that they always claim the shirt sticking up is the wires fault, but if a human body was supported by their shirt and a wire, the other side of the shirt would end up looking extremely tight. In these shots the shirt is loose all around the body, implying that it isn’t supporting the weight of a human and is therefore not attached to a wire in Earth’s gravity.
The most recent crew 6 that arrived at ISS,
I just LOVE how the Russian lady slipped on a Hoodie without bothering with her wires!
And then the 11 of them moving around so well and not tangling their wires in a crowded space!
And kudos to the post process CGI experts who got ALL of those wires erased! WOW !
And the Best part is tossing that microphone between each other.
Did ya see that! Of course, its wire was also removed in post.
SO GOOD!
And that Hair! Bouncing JUST RIGHT to simulate micro gravity!
Oh! And when an astronaut goes down a side chamber... how do their wires not interfere with the "top" of those chambers.
Thank you Dave.
All the D-K top left candidates need to watch. But it won't matter to them anyway.
I used to video puppet shows. I wonder what they use as "puppeteers" on the ISS set able to pull all those strings in the correct sequence and no entanglements.
Logic isn't a flerfer's strong suit.
@@gilleruadh do they have a strong suit?
@@ShizukuSeiji I think the dunning-kruger effect is their stong suit.
Or paranoia
Even better if you realize that when we do zero-G stuff in movies, we often have to replace the whole background if the wires are too hard to remove. It happens fairly often, but the flerfs think effects tech is just magic.
I want them to explain how the ISS is able to travel thousands of mph which can be observed from your backyard on given dates.
I had a flat earther tell me that the ISS was not real because it was just another really high object in the sky like the chinese balloon. He then said in fact is just like any other balloon. Look at this balloon and look at its solar panels. Then I asked him if he was comparing the size of an alleged weather balloon solar panel to that of the ISS. He said yes. Then I left him on read.
I love how they think a high altitude balloon can track the same path in the same time yet they never will show the math and physics behind their claim because it is like they know subconsciously it isn't right.
There's a crackpot space denier that claims it's a world wide network of SR-71 class jets that fly the projected path of the ISS, just to keep up the hoax.
And then you and a buddy do some triangulation and find that this balloon is blasting along at thousands of mph.
Yeah, those chinese hypersonic spy balloons are amazing
@@st0rmforce Well responded lol. The ISS is going super fast, it rotates the Earth 16 times a day! You should have a ballon going hypersonic to do that. It's just absurd. NASA (and all of the other space agencies) have no business in lying. We all know that if the Earth was flat we would have exploited the resourceson the other side, or found a way of going there. That isn't happening
Imagine that you spent 10+ years training professionally to become an astronaut so that you could go on a 6 month-long expedition to the ISS where you conducted life changing scientific experiments, helping to propel the human race into the age of space colonisation, only to come back down to earth where you are confronted by some redneck mouth breather who thinks you were just acting in front of a green screen 🤦♂️
😂 no one has been there stop it
@TransitionedToAShark Prove that no ones been there.
@@sparehead8911You just gotta believe him, man. He is just correct, because he said so
I love the idea that NASA has to CGI/edit in microphones and microphone cables. I didn’t know their lack of funding was so bad they couldn’t afford a microphone!
If NASA really were green screen and editing all their clips from the ISS then these kind of "blunders" wouldn't make it to the public, given the billions of dollars NASA has you'd expect flawless cinematic editing! Also all of these effects are well known inter frame compression issues, if you've ever watched Netflix on a dodgy internet connection you'll have seen things like this!
it's hilarious that they are anomaly hunting, but find rather simple "anomalies" that are effectively expected because it's an artifact, a common illusion, of just how the tech works ..
and wtf they don't even understand how green screens work in any way... they are for background not foreground objects over other foreground objects.
try to get flat earthers to explain how something extremely simple like AM radio works haha good luck with that
@@Fred_the_1996 yes there is so much, of that!
but you also have to remember that flat earthers are much more diverse nowadays. it used to be only a religious thing until relatively recently( as in decades). now it's a full pseudoscience conspiracy hybrid, with religious undertones. and many of them don't even know it's religious origin.
That greenscreen bit was hilarious. It must be VERY advanced green screen technology that NASA is keeping secret from us in Tartaria!
thank you for such a well thought out, easy to understand explanation. your efforts are appreciated and needed!
i think people willing to think that nasa is fake will find a reason why your debunk is also fake. you do a nice job calling out general ignorance of video production (which is a vast field). well done. 👍🏻🇺🇸🌌
He can debunking whatever he wants, but fake is fake. A person has to be really sick in his head to accept that it is all true. I can imagine people falling for it, because I thought it was all true. Despite the fact that I've found it hard to believe since I was a kid. We are not in the middle age, but we are in 2023.
I definitely like to see his videos and certainly as entertainment and fun to hear different opinions. But one has to be realistic and I say in my opinion it is 100% fake.
@@StephenJordanJavaKrypt
If you don't know then why did you say that?
That's what's idiots says
@@Fortapistone *_"I say in my opinion it is 100% fake."_*
In my opinion you are just a chatGPT bot. You can't prove me wrong so therefore you must be.
@@StephenJordanJavaKrypt "yeah uh, so, they used magically advanced ai to edit these videos since decades ago, but the videos that prove the flat earth? No man, those are real, there's no way _those_ are edited"
@@StephenJordanJavaKrypt oh... If that's the case, I apologize, but you got to know, yes, you do need a /s, why? Because flatearthers actually say idiotic things like that in a non sarcastic way... But then again, my apologies man
Watching Mikhail Kornienko spending a whole year on the ISS, documenting it and then doing repeated livestreams to people on Earth and we still have people who claim its all done in a studio!
Space deniers simply refuse to believe that the ISS exists, because there is no space. Period. Ergo, nothing that emanates from there can be anything other than something faked here on Earth. Most flattards also refuse to accept that space exists beyond their "dome", so same problem for them. Must be great getting rich preying on these simple succulents.
Someone just searched "Mikhail kornienko alien" what
@Wonder777 Ignorance at its finest!
@Wonder777 Ignorance is lacking knowledge and being unwilling to learn, if you can't even get the meaning of a word then a conversation about the ISS is well over your head!
@Wonder777 It must be fun being you, having to spend all day, every day, actually witnessing and verifying everything you want to know exists. I'll bet you weren't so bloody stupid in history class at school - assuming you actually went to one.
I'm a visual effects student and some of the VFX "mistakes" these people try to point out are laughable and totally off base to how a cig or compositing error would look
Let's face it, most of them can't work out what the flaw in pouring water over a ball and claiming to have disproved gravity is.
It's almost like flat earthers have never been on a Skype call...
Wouldnt it be CHEAPER to have an ACTUAL space program, than to have 100 million or so people worldwide paid to be in what amounts to a 60-year movie series, and keep it black through 3 generations? Or do they not believe the technology to go into space exists at all?
100 million or so people? Lol dumb. All you need is only a few people
@@LukeRoxALotthere’s 18000 people currently employed by NASA. Then we have all of the pilots (millions) then we need all of the other government space agencies, then all of the private space launch companies, then all of the amateur rocketry enthusiasts, then all teachers, then all of the satellite companies, then all of the cell phone companies… etc. You get the point. This would be a global conspiracy that easily has millions of people involved. And for what purpose, to lie about the world being a sphere? Or going to the moon? Not sure what delusion you subscribe to. There’s nothing to gain from doing this. If the science existed otherwise that’s just what they would say. There’s no point to making an elaborate scheme that involves the studies of mathematics, astronomy, biology, geology, etc. all being fraudulent just for some pointless lie.
One of the things I cant wrap my head is around is the fact, that they claim NASA is getting so much money and yet they seemingly cannot make cgi videos without these obvious mistakes.
I mean, they love to feel so smart when they can see the "lies", yet somehow nobody how it that "NASA gets big money and yet they make junior cgi artist level mistakes".
Why waste more money on CGI than is absolutely necessary?
This does not even resemble "junior cgi artist level mistakes" - they merely think so because they have no clue how such visual effects and CGI work is done. The least implausible one was the reflection on the tablet, because a reflection would represent a new place something showed up. All these sudden changes like the microphone becoming harder to see would be *harder* to do in CGI.
If you actually wanted to do live wire hiding, you'd want nice, wide ropes, in a specific colour you could key out. Similar to Kuroko in japanese theater. Small details like wires make a mess of modern colour cameras with debayering, slightly less if using overlaid sensors like Foveon or 3CCD. Removing something you can only sometimes detect is hard.
NASA's budget for 2022 was 24 billions, Avengers Endgame cost 356 millions to make. So why doesn't NASA's CGI look 3 times as good as Marvel's CGI?... could it be that it's not CGI?
@@Jehty_ I live in Florida and I have seen dozens of rocket launches. If they're dumping them straight into the ocean for theater then money is no object.
@@basketvector7311 sorry, I don't understand your argument.
If the goal is to make money (like the conspiracy theorists claim why NASA does exist) then money is most definitely a object. The main object in fact.
Massive Thank YOU for what you are doing. You bring back my belief in humankind. Recently I lost hope as we seem to be moving backwards. Keep doing what you are doing. I couldn't explain it better.
yes luke ,we are moving the wrong direction..
Just remember, you only ever hear the loudest voices. Nobody ever makes videos about how they feel normally about the moon landing. For every flat earther, there's at least ten thousand people who think NASA's pretty cool.
Ah yes, those incredible CGI artists that can fake things nobody else could as believably but also can't be bothered to edit their images or something, because of course actual live footage from SPACE would always be absolutely perfect, even better than streams done here on Earth.
I sometimes actually feel sorry for the people that believe all this stuff is faked because they are truly missing out on the wonders of space and the work NASA actually does. But then I remember they're the ones refusing the truth through their own sense of self-superiority.
self superiority or paranoia
One time I was watching a game of soccer, and saw the same artifacting, proving soccer is fake.
The injuries prove that.
@@jimsmith7212 No one gets injured in soccer, they fall over, without even being touched.
It seems the science deniers did not have much Zoom experience in recent years. Those distortions are typical for poor transmission conditions. Yawn.
I said the same thing. By their logic, everyone on Zoom calls are not real. They're product of NASA's CGI... :D
Being jobless wouldn't be that surprising
[perfectly normal video artifacts] 'this is unequivocal proof of cgi.'
“…therefore the earth is flat.”
It is rather clear evidence the flat earther hasn't got much of a clue how CGI is done.
There's literally nothing you could possibly do to change the flat earther's minds. Even if you put them on a rocket and took them to the ISS they'd still come up with some kind of story as to why it's not real.
Yes! I've said the same thing. It's a brainwash that they have done to themselves. I feel it's in the same realm of the religion part of the brain. Even if they were taken to space, they would say something like the windows were actually video screens, or that they were drugged etc.
To change our minds is to show real actual evidence how about u go live outside do the scientific method to show the globe, space, gravity, curvature, and the ground we walk on move if u can't do that u are a wannabe and u need to get expose for lying to our children
@@FlatEarth-q1fHow about if you trot out a map of your mythical flat earth suitable for navigation?
While you're at it, you can try to explain why WGS84, which serves as the basis for the majority of the electronic navigation systems in use today, is a mathematical model of the earth as an oblate spheroid and not as a flat plane?
@@marksprague1280 flat earth is for circumnavigation wgs84 doesn't mean shyt until yall prove it live its all BS and fyi pilots all saying its not a globe
@@marksprague1280 go live and prove globe curvature space gravity amd the ground we walk on moves I bet u run
Of course, even if you present them with undeniable proof, at most they'll fall back to saying it was just faked better
Of course, even if you present them with undeniable proof, at most they'll fall back to saying it was just "video compression".
@@maxlevel1489 of course, flerfers will always argue the most convoluted explanation is the correct one, even if they couldn't explain said explanation.
@@maxlevel1489 learn some stuff, like video compression, lost data packets, bad internet connection, and video artifacts. it's not rocket science, it should be easier for your little brain
@@redragon9588 I bet you barely understand yourself lol
@@redragon9588 Besides he is just making the field even
Love your videos!
I feel like alot of youtuber flat earth debunkers end up acting superior and insulting flat earthers (often as a counterinsult but still). Your videos keep it professional and doesnt aim to mock them for being wrong, just explain calmly why their arguments are wrong.
Keep up the quality content! ❤
Flat earth debunkers are just as bad as flat earthers.
NASA fund the flat earth society, they couldn't defeat their real opponents so they funded their own!
They deserve to be mocked honestly
I almost fell over laughing at the compression warping effect as Webex does that exact same thing to some of my coworkers during almost every call. This sort of thing has been a side effect of data loss in video compression since the earliest days of MPEG video in the 90’s. It tends to be worse, and more visible in video conference and live streaming setups because the key frames that clear up this distortion use a lot more data, and are therefore sent less frequently. On a DVD or streaming movie you’ll usually get multiple key frames every second, so any data corruption will result in at most a fraction of a second of glitching. Live video on the other hand often only sends a key frame every 10-15 seconds.
When the effect starts to get comically bad during conference calls, the person with the glitchy stream will often wave their hands in front of their face. This extra bit of movement will usually cause the image to change enough that a new key frame gets generated, resolving the problem.
How do you know that your co-workers are real?
@@Jehty_ airplanes.
I think you might be having video calls with the Illuminati.
@@Jehty_ *X-Files starts to play*
"if this footage is badly edited and messed up then why did NASA posted it online?"- that's something conspiracy theorists don't have an answer for.
This is the second time I've seen a claim of "green screen" of an object in front of a person's body. In both these cases, the body was the background, not a green background.
nono you misunderstand. the astronauts clothes are fake too. they're actually in all green paint, so even the clothes can be CG'd live on them. i mean, obviously. because thats a totally reasonable way to fake a livestream.
My question is why in the world would NASA not correct such grievous errors in this video, and many others, if they are trying so hard to hide the shape of the earth???
That's going down the rabbit hole once u learn ancient cosmology or flat earth they know u would expose them and never would have to answer to them ever again
@@FlatEarth-q1f Every time we measure Earth's surface, we find that it is not flat, but curved. This exposes you.
@@h.dejong2531 y yall keep saying we when ur azz never did any measurement go live outside and show Im tired of hearing all talk with no evidence if u can't present real proof u are a fraud wannabe and a person that doesn't know anything
@@h.dejong2531 Im ready so r u going to go live and show me plus how many miles do I need to go to c curvature
@@h.dejong2531 what r u waiting on
It is incredibly irritating as a VFX Artist, to see someone make these claims with absolutely no idea of how VFX shots are composited, and that his claim about the windows would be more work to get wrong than to get correct and just not a mistake you could even make in reality.
The glitching - well that is just video compression and the fact that video compression is lazy and still object are essentially just held in case like Dave says. So that is exactly what we would expect to see, and isn't proof of a green screen. Normally glitches in comp with green screens actually flash the screen rather than glitch like this.
The fade transition looks to be a time laps comp, also why would you ever fade them out given you would have just roto-ed the foreground object and had him pass behind it. So that's a BS claim as it just isn't how you would manage this kind of shot.
The cable - again, this just isn't a mistake that we would make. Not only is this a rookie error, but secondly hands are a primary focus in VFX as they are a pain to deal with like 90% of the time, so and error here is really unlikely. Also TBH, this would have been an easy practical effect to do rather than doing 3D work and modeling this movement. So again, wouldn't show up in this way as an error. Also all of the resolutions do seem to match, as does the lighting on the objects and I very much doubt they would if they had done this as a VFX shot.
Wires - this is a nuts claim from a VFX point of view, as removing wires is like Day 1, and it is extremely unlikely that something like wires would be left in (including clothing deformations) on something like this given they wouldn't be hiring kids straight out of college, they would have the best of the best doing this work. And what is this "I think they faded it out", we do t fade out wires 🤦♂️
@@Now_Time_For_Science If they had the best, the best people would be missing in the actual companies, so this would be suspicious. What they do is to get to orphanages in India, pick the most skilled geek orphans and teach them how to paint. Then they are locked into a dark cellar and paint all wires out without seeing anything but the building they are locked it. Well, this part is identical to conventional VFX work. I guess the differences really just comes down to them being orphans and not as good and therefore missing wires. And adding compression artifacts when streaming their results from Kalkutta or whatever.
So, it's supposed to be CGI rendered _in real time_ with an error rate of less than 1%.
Impressive, if not actually physically _impossible._
I love how you’re telling us all this stuff, but your dog is probably convinced you’re just sitting there talking to him while he sleeps and is just feeling it so hard lol 😄
Dog knows the truth - flat or globe it doesn't have any material impact on its own existence.
I wish the stupidity of the relatively insignificant amount of flat earthers didn't both me, but it's hard to not see it as part of a larger evidence is humanity failing..
The dog is either blissfully ignorant, or fully content knowing these people will never actually influence anything with their beliefs.
Sigh.. wish i was dog
@@MelodicTurtleMetal My friend there is much, much more than flat earthers proving that humanity is in deep, deep decline. Social media is now the antithesis of any and all things social. Kids no longer want to be doctors and lawyers or whatever, they just want to be gaming pros and UA-cam stars.
All younger people right now seem to think that everything they have become accustomed to at their young age will be carried with them for the rest of their lives, and I’m only 36 and from everything I’ve seen change every ten years or so, kids now have no idea how much of a shock they’re in for when the generation after them disregards everything they thought was cool… just as Gen Z is doing to my generation now lol.
And the cycle continues… just never as bad as this.
I remember looking up to adults as a kid. Not calling them all old heads and boomers and ridiculing every single thought that comes from their head because it’s not spoken in teen speak like saying ‘Bruh’ and mentioning how ‘Lit’ everything is lol.
It’s so sadly not just the flerfies though I wish it was.
15:00 now all you need to do is explain the dog waving good bye.... hmmmm? CGI? Greenscreen?
Dog suit.
Consuming this channels content has allowed me to develop an unhealthy, addiction of hate watching Flerth content. Idk why, but this conspiracy has captivated me. It feels as if we're living in an episode of the Twilight Zone. Idk whether to laugh or be concerned at how impressionable these people are, or why I enjoy seeing them be soundly refuted so much.
I literally feel exactly the same about flat earth. Now i just hate watching flat earth related content because im kinda concerned about flat earthers
I stopped doing that when I saw one video where a guy claims the ISS is actually a modified U2 spy plane. Like.... these people they don't seem interested in spaceflight or aerospace or basic physics at all to them its just magic so only someone that ignorant can seriously try to claim something so bereft of logic like that, just so baffling.
Just wait till you get into the mud flood people's videos
I have a suspicion, that for some its an exercise in defending an incorrect position. Finding convincing arguments for something you know to be false can be good practice for defending something you do believe in. Much more than that though, is the desire for people to have secret knowledge, or just to know something others don't know. The hard way is to do research yourself, but the shortcut is to use someone else's info, be it a published scientific article, or someone's UA-cam video defending a false conclusion. Lastly, it is socially painful to admit your false belief, and I suspect the vast majority of people continuing the 'research' know the claims to be false, but won't deal with the repercussions of admitting to being convinced by a lie.
In some way this can be comforting, as most don't actually believe. But its also terrifying on its own, such as when the same tendencies are employed for a more impactful claim, such as Jewish control of banks/media, or pizza store trafficking rings, or generally the claims of Q-Anon, or whatever the newest version might be.
Dunning-kruger effect can be very entertaining to watch.
Those people are a perfect example of 'I cannot wrap my head around it, so it can't exist.' Which is also a hilarious self-own.
Example: I understand jack-shit about painting, and it's a miracle to me how something like the Mona Lisa can be painted using what to me is colored paste. Yet I don't go around screeching how the Mona Lisa is fake just because I am too dumb and talentless to paint. But this is exactly what flerfs are doing when talking about physics and science.
Them pouring water on basketballs and claiming that as proof how the oceans couldn't exist on a globe will never be not hysterical to me :D Or how on a globe, ships would always be going downhill. I still chuckle about it.
I dont get the thing about the microphone disappearing. It is still there and it is also clearly visible due to the bitrate artifact.
Honestly, I cannot comprehend how that patron could at all believe the things that Fleecers say, since 90% of then bring nothing beyond personal incredulity to the table, and the other 10% misrepresent established science that takes no more than five minutes of research to disprove
In age of scientific enlightenment there are people that prefer to stay in dark claiming that lightbulb is a hoax.
Is that a quote, or did you come up with that?
Nice either way
@@st0rmforce Something I came up with.
The footage of astronauts being weightless is unique in a sense that no holliwood movie, not even the ones with a budget worth hundreds of millions of dollars, has ever replicated it. In all space movies, the use harness is obvious.
That’s actually not true. In Apollo 13 they used a zero g flight to film the space scenes, and the actors are actually weightless. That’s why it looks so good.
@@michaelgoldstein8516 That is absolutely brilliant. I wish more movies would do that, but I suppose it isn’t very practical for any scene that can’t fit in a vomit comet
@@michaelgoldstein8516 My point was that you can't hide the harness...and you would have to use harness if the scene you broadcast is live and lasts for 20 minutes or half an hour. If you look at all the movies where actors are supposed to be weightless and use harness, you can see the harness anchor points quite clearly. Also, flat earthers dont believe in gravity...so, zero-g flight for them would also have to be "cgi" i guess.
@@michaelgoldstein8516 That can't explain real footage of astronauts, since the zero g flights only last a handful of seconds.
@@michaelgoldstein8516 I've heard flat earthers claim this is what they do on the ISS. Someone in the chat said that such weightlessness only lasts for 23 seconds. I didn't bother to look it up, but it seems reasonable. Now imagine the astronauts doing enough of those flights to fill thousands of hours of video.
The amazing brain of the flerfkin. It's a wonder to behold, if you can find it.
The funny part about the supposed "green screen mistake" is that people understand video data streams and compression algorithms so well that this kind of glitching is done on purpose for artistic reasons. Hell, it's so common that it has been given a name: datamoshing.
Flerfs do try really really hard to confirm their biases. Still, a good analysis of shots we've seen lots of
My favorite iss proof is a 50min tour of iss by Megan(?) who floats through various corridors and hatches with no sign of wires or harness. Video is uncut, continuous.
Why are they floating?
@@earthsuit4418 Zero gravity, the Earth's gravitational pull is negligible on the ISS
Quick correction: MP4 isn't a compression format it's a container. Encoders like h264, h265, AV1, and MPEG-4 are the compression and the encoders are what fails when data goes missing.
Edit: Forgot MPEG which is MP4's main encoder. There are more encoders but they aren't important to mention.
i thought MP4 was an audio format
@@snapperjessen Well, it can have audio but it's an A/V container.
@@emerson-biggons7078 i wish i was smarter 😁
@@snapperjessen not a matter of intelligence. It's just a very specific technical thing. A non AI robot could understand it. So don't worry about it, you're not stupid you just didn't know something rather specific.
@rogersanma2 not quite, MPEG-4 is a compression format for MP4.
You'd think they would spend more money on compression because no wonder flat earthers eat them up that fading does look sus to someone who doesn't understand.
The level of desperation that flat earthers exhibit in order to try and believe their own lies and delusions is staggering. I genuinely feel pity for them.
Don't. Theyre not worth your pity
"CGI, green screens and wire harnesses". You forgot the magic hairspray these dopey creatures insist they use too.
Most of the movements the astronauts do would be impossible to do smoothly and without the wires dragging against clothing etc, IF AT ALL. A lot of times they'll be moving and rolling at the same time which would be near impossible to do while under earth gravity, same with the ease of movement without arms, legs, cables etc flopping around at least a bit in earths gravity. Their arguments are laughable yet the dopey creatures could easily try and simulate it themselves and see how hard it is, actually they may have but, found out how hard to make it look real so never posted that.
Gotta lie to flerf.
Any video with a liquid in space. The one with Chris Hadfield wringing out a wash cloth. Good luck faking that lmao.
@@davidfoster2629 Yeah, that is a good one. The video of a large ball of water with bubbles sitting in it, or the one where they have a GoPro sitting in the middle of one though, they probably just cry "CGI" for all that.
There are pictures of Sandra Bulllock harnessed up during a scene in that very bad "Gravity" movie and before wiping them out she's got wires going everywhere, even to support her legs, and she's just floating along, no twisting or rolling yet, these creatures STILL insist the astronauts are on wires. They have zero thinking ability!
This is the same exact problem that happens tobroadcast tv signals. The picture will "tile" (or pixelate) when the RF signal gets disturbed enough, that the electronic process has to resync to rebuild the picture. It looks exactly like the video footage you showed. 👍
If it were CGI, they would've looked through it and cleaned it up. But because it's real and data related, it's nothing that can be done. Hilarious how they disprove themselves.
Soooo, how is it I have snapped many pics of it while photographing the moon with my telescope? My telescope must have been pre programed with a cgi clip that shows up at random times. WHO KNEW!
I saw Saturn's rings using a spotting scope. I wonder how the cgi worked in it.
@@gilleruadh Back when they started making telescopes Mr Messier started the automating cgi loaded glass. Hard to believe he knew space was cgi in the 1700s HAHAHA
Its funny how they seem to forget that such a ting as video compression and artifacts is a thing when they spot their "evidence".
On behalf of all Flat Earthers that watch this, I shall end the debate on the ridiculous "globe Earth" conspiracy theory with my following comment that you will never be able to debunk, disprove, or explain away with your scientological nonsense:
"Nope. I am right and you are wrong."
That is all. No further debate is necessary.
I indeed hope this is sarcasm, but it is actually something a nitwit flat earther would be able to say #GottaLieToFlerf
That’s all they know how to do, and their last case scenario is ridiculing, slandering, calling daddy Nasa and pseudoscience on the phone to further prove their idiotic claims. All it is, is a herd mentality. There’s no free thinkers among the crowds. They all believe what man has told them, sadly they do not know man only cares about profit and what makes them powerful. They don’t give af about the general public.
@@Brandon-ju5pg
Get a clue!
I do love the fact the flat earthers try to "debunk" something by cherry picking tiny specific things, then incorrectly observing them as proof that the whole recording is fake.
The contradiction that they think we cant make technology advanced enough to zoom in on things with lenses, but then proceed to say we have this advanced on the fly video editing software makes me laugh every time.
The religious are exceptionally adept at cherry picking..