Revealing THE TOTAL COST Of Our "$16,000" Abandoned Airplane Rebuild!

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  • @Kenny-rn2xc
    @Kenny-rn2xc 8 місяців тому +14

    Amazing to see it flying again. Keep it and fly it for a few years. It will still be worth a lot when you get ready to sell. I owned it for a few years. I flew it solo cross country to Tennessee and back to Idaho. My last trip was to the aircraft broker in Carson City NV. Now that I have found your channel I will have to catch up on what you do.
    Good luck.

  • @cmayessantiago
    @cmayessantiago 8 місяців тому +42

    This is amazing. I’m a public elementary school teacher and a student pilot. I’d love to own a small plane like this and show my kids that anything is possible when you put your mind to it.

    • @caroltenge5147
      @caroltenge5147 7 місяців тому +4

      Christopher, get ready for perpetual debt. Get another hobby.

    • @truehighs7845
      @truehighs7845 7 місяців тому +4

      Start with a sailboat, it requires similar skills but it is marginally more forgiving, and you only have to bother left and right and not up and down.

    • @denny5564
      @denny5564 4 місяці тому

      Anything is possible if you are willing to work for it !

  • @richardsmith9456
    @richardsmith9456 7 місяців тому

    I think it was a great buy and really like watching you guys bring it back to life and flying again

  • @JeffLewis-y1z
    @JeffLewis-y1z 2 місяці тому

    I like to see both for comparison

  • @dickdegraaff5452
    @dickdegraaff5452 8 місяців тому +4

    Dear Bros,
    Your Zodiac CH601XL SLSA is completely ready to be sold and despite the fact you haven’t added your labor hours you’ve spent to the total costs I think you can make some profit with this plane. Wish you a successful and speedy selling and look forward to your next vlog plus send you love from the Netherlands

  • @bobrickner5900
    @bobrickner5900 8 місяців тому

    I think it was a great deal! Wish i could find a deal like that. Ive looked for one of these for some time that was reasonably priced. Are you going to sell this one?

  • @alechendryx7023
    @alechendryx7023 8 місяців тому

    like your videos. makes me interested and makes me chuckle. You would love to hear my Mooney story.

  • @i.r.wayright1457
    @i.r.wayright1457 8 місяців тому +1

    You forgot to list your Thrift Shop fashion clothes. BTW, a plane from the desert is worth two from the coast.

  • @cookiecanfly_
    @cookiecanfly_ 8 місяців тому

    Awesome content man! You guys have done well, massive win👍 Larry is a legend he deserves half the profit😜🤣

  • @zacwoodward6054
    @zacwoodward6054 8 місяців тому

    Have you given any thought to converting it over to experimental?

    • @danblumel
      @danblumel 8 місяців тому +1

      That's in fact not so easily done.

    • @zacwoodward6054
      @zacwoodward6054 8 місяців тому

      @@danblumel care to elaborate? I'm just curious. I have no horse in the race and have never done it, but I have seen forum posts where owners claimed their SLSA to ELSA conversion was fairly straightforward, simple, and provided them some advantages such as being able to change equipment (I imagine like the $5000 avionics package vs the $30,000 avionics package pointed out in an earlier video on this aircraft).

  • @ryanthomas2472
    @ryanthomas2472 8 місяців тому

    Probably a better buy than the jet, but I like both.

  • @mattgreven7615
    @mattgreven7615 8 місяців тому

    Ya'll are young--you can't put a price on the value of the knowledge you're gaining. And I don't think you can put a price on that! Great project, thanks for sharing. Now give the dang thing away to some deserving student pilot! Essay contest maybe? Or, can you use it as a free/low-cost trainer? A young eagles program maybe?

  • @leevandyke8524
    @leevandyke8524 8 місяців тому

    You are 16,000 I mean 25,000 airplane is very cool, but for short trips around your area at 5 gallons of fuel an hour is absolutely fantastic. Imagine the money you’ll save when you’re going out to look at another airplane. Or need to just go have lunch somewhere else. 5 gallons an hour that’s awesome.

  • @jamesharkness1058
    @jamesharkness1058 8 місяців тому +59

    This is a amazing project, and a huge win. You got a flying/airworthy airplane for less than $23k. Where else could you find something like that? I can’t wait to see it detailed! Please keep the affordable flyer theme going! Show how accessible aviation can be! I think you should keep this one and fly it to find the next affordable flyer. JR Aviation….saving aviation one airplane at a time! Well done guys!

    • @Airplanefish
      @Airplanefish 8 місяців тому +4

      I've got a perfectly fine, no damage, certified flying airplane for sale $22K. Turn key. Fresh annual. Ready to go to a new owner. My point is aviation doesn't have to be expensive. There are alot of simple cheap aircraft

  • @reginanjus
    @reginanjus 8 місяців тому +17

    Awesome and congratulations! A flying airplane for under $30,000 is really fantastic! You deserve success!

  • @DBene-br7xo
    @DBene-br7xo 8 місяців тому +17

    Great video. The cost you will save training in this thing is crazy valuable. Keep the low cost budget builds coming. Definitely gives some courage to take on one of these projects ourselves!

  • @rickmorrison
    @rickmorrison 8 місяців тому +25

    30 years in the aviation industry.
    Complete logbooks are half the value of an airplane.
    I enjoy your channel.

  • @nickk4010
    @nickk4010 8 місяців тому +15

    I'm addicted to this channel and not even that into planes, but now I know so much haha. I do love traveling and flying but your channel is awesome

    • @JRAviation
      @JRAviation  8 місяців тому +2

      Glad you like them!

    • @nickk4010
      @nickk4010 8 місяців тому

      @@JRAviation Thanks! Glad I found this channel, I watch Owens channel so came up in my recs and glad it did!

  • @n4bhpat
    @n4bhpat 8 місяців тому +13

    anything you guys do is fun. keep it rolling im watching while studying for my private pilot ! great job, Cheers

  • @kd8opi
    @kd8opi 8 місяців тому +2

    if you look at this objectively , you paid $18,000 for an air frame, roughly $6000 for parts, and needed to account for about $10-$15,000 worth of labor. That totals out to about $40,000. That’s probably a low estimate, OK I’m willing to go there. Here’s the thing, you made your money back when you bought the plane. You got it for a song. You have a lot of experience, you have a lot of friends that know what they’re doing. it’s a fair guess that most newer private pilots don’t have the same capabilities or experience. The danger is that a new pilot may go out and spend $16,000 for an airplane, thinking to replicate your success, but may end up spending a lot more than what you did because basically they don’t know what they’re doing.

  • @dputub
    @dputub 8 місяців тому +2

    RE: cost of your time. If it's something you enjoy doing, that you want to do, then I think you can wash that cost. Do guys who like to golf calculate the cost of their time on the course? Do you calculate the cost of time you spend with your family? How much does it cost to sit around a backyard fire with your buddies? People spend crazy amounts of money on going places to have fun. If you have fun working on a plane, then in my thinking, you are way ahead.

  • @markwalker5231
    @markwalker5231 8 місяців тому +12

    Love the lower cost rebuild, keep ‘em coming!

  • @dinosaur6756
    @dinosaur6756 8 місяців тому +6

    People actually give you guys crap for profiting on your business? That's insane. Those people are idiotic. I had a great time watching this series and can't wait to see if the detail guys can work some magic. I've got a good feeling about it.

    • @JRGarage
      @JRGarage 8 місяців тому +3

      All the time. People really frown when we make a profit on cars/planes.

  • @danblumel
    @danblumel 8 місяців тому +1

    The positioning of the LED's is wrong. The outboard unit should be the taxi version with its wider beam. Part of its beam that would reach directly in front of the plane and farther is being cut off by the wing leading edge, being in the way. The two lights positions should be swapped to get the most from both of them. The landing light has a narrower beam so it would work correctly and the same in the inboard position.

  • @piperwarrior5705
    @piperwarrior5705 8 місяців тому +1

    With a total respray and graphics $30k...sell for $40k

  • @roberthunt4791
    @roberthunt4791 4 місяці тому +1

    Research and find out who owned it and see if he still has them it's well worth the money to put in to literally track this guy down

  • @brent1041
    @brent1041 8 місяців тому +3

    I own a factory built zodiac also.
    Yours is probably worth about $40,000-$50,000. The missing logs hurt it however it’s a very simple plane and fairly new so maybe a 10% loss in value without them.

  • @billmarko5143
    @billmarko5143 8 місяців тому +2

    You did not include the new lite weight battery?

  • @georgestuart2483
    @georgestuart2483 8 місяців тому +3

    Your channels are by far my favorite! As an active pilot with a Grumman Cheetah, plus a Corby Starlet I built from plans, your aviation videos are right up my alley. Plus in my younger days, I rebuilt several cars including a 1978 Datsun 280Z that I dropped a Chevy V8 in from a Camero, your car channel is fascinating also. Keep up the great work!

  • @alrad5686
    @alrad5686 8 місяців тому +3

    Haters will hate Jeff. Great job recognizing a possible great buy and then following through to make it a sweet little plane for someone, and a profit for you, so you can buy more jet fuel! lol Stay safe my friend.

  • @fastj1962
    @fastj1962 26 днів тому

    great work, from finding the plane to getting it air worthy and home. I used to work nights and I lived 2 blocks from the beach. My beach cruiser bike got stolen and I found a beater and made it look new. My friends said you should start doing this and selling them. I would buy expensive bikes that were totaled from lack of care. Sometimes buying a $600 bike for as low as $15. I would then spend ridiculous amounts of time on them. Sometimes I'd buy a bike and the owner would say silly things like, "It just needs to be polished" lol I might have spent $50 on a bike I'd sell for $200 but it had a $1000 or more labor into it. You gotta value your time. At the time I was refereeing, I was refereeing Hockey and coaching skating for Hockey players. An Hour lesson, $50. An hour long game, $20. (inline hockey) . Whats a realistic hourly wage? Today, I install and repair large format printers. A typical repair trip is $1200 a day plus travel. A customer can loose thousands of dollars each day his printer is down. An HVAC guy charges over $100 per hour fyi, that guy charging you $2000 for multiple days? lol Thats a steal. anyway, at just $20 per hour which is what I made for refereeing kids in 2012 you have a big bill my friend. You can't diminish that cost, its real.

  • @tomseim
    @tomseim 8 місяців тому

    Even factoring in the absence of the logbooks this plane is worth $40 to 50k, having the logbooks would probably add $10 to 20k. So, you came out looking pretty good. Remember, you took a huge risk in buying this plane, and how do you evaluate risk? What if the plane didn't have that AD done and it was now just worth the parts?

  • @binkysquiggums
    @binkysquiggums 28 днів тому

    So, the plane owes you 24.5k, I reckon you could get 85-95k for the plane as it now stands, so I reckon you have made at least $60k... Well done guys. I would rathere see you bring back more older aircraft, the drop more money into the citation

  • @CaptainRon1913
    @CaptainRon1913 8 місяців тому

    "If we've been living under a rock".. Like we were supposed to see your 5 million subscriber channel?... lol

  • @JimBronson
    @JimBronson 8 місяців тому +1

    Don't pump the carb until you start cranking. Carb is mounted upside down and the pump squirt gas that is not atomized will go down into the filter, not up into the engine. If you get a backfire it can light your gas soaked filter on fire.

  • @mr.perfect1er
    @mr.perfect1er 3 місяці тому

    You did AMAZING!
    Walk/Fly with Jesus Christ
    Stay Dangerous

  • @marklandry2509
    @marklandry2509 5 місяців тому

    As it is right now, with original paint… $45,000.
    New paint?… $60,000
    Detail, touch up paint and new decal numbers and stripes?… $60,000

  • @thepacketnarc7634
    @thepacketnarc7634 4 місяці тому

    I think you undervalued the labor by at least half.
    You’re looking easily at $15k - $18k in labor, consumables, EPA fees, storage, etc.
    I’d say your ‘real’ cost is really closer to $45k when it’s all said and done.

  • @Jeffrey-Flys
    @Jeffrey-Flys 8 місяців тому

    so… how much income from UA-cam for your “time” on this project? How many view hours compared to work hours? Someone owes me $147.98 for watching this project!!!!!! 😂eeeee

  • @djwilliams4714
    @djwilliams4714 8 місяців тому +1

    Why not try to find the original owner to get the logs?

  • @TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday
    @TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday 6 місяців тому

    However you stack it, $25k for a plane with just a few hundred hours on it is hard to beat, given today's market. I think there's plenty of room to add a mark-up and walk away with a profit. That said, I'm curious if there's any impact on the missing log books on insurance or anything else? But instead of selling it, maybe you could do a lease-back with a ground school or club in the area and offer cut-rate fees to aspiring pilots? Do something GOOD with it! (I could suggest a club at Deer Valley :) )

  • @DaveFlight-n2f
    @DaveFlight-n2f 4 місяці тому

    So in a nutshell, ready to fly, singed off for $22400 for a plane worth $60-70K from the factory - new. It’s got to be worth at least $35-45K should you sell it tomorrow.

  • @captkirkoakes
    @captkirkoakes 8 місяців тому +2

    I certainly would have done it! Great deal guys! Yeah I’m a little jealous. Keep up the good work!

  • @granddad-mv5ef
    @granddad-mv5ef 8 місяців тому

    I honestly dislike voicing an opinion on a subject with which I have limited knowledge BUT, this seems to be a tremendous win. In fact, I am kind of jealous. Totally unrelated---have you given any thought to Sun-n-Fun in April?

  • @acobra67
    @acobra67 8 місяців тому

    Now, let's subtract the money you made from this video series...... now what's the total?

  • @ebenezerwheezer2957
    @ebenezerwheezer2957 8 місяців тому

    Screw the PRICE POLICE TROLLS tell them to kick rocks. List it for as much money as you feel it is worth, then adjust the price accordingly to the responses coming back from your ad.
    The market will set the price.
    The fact that you may not get a response for a few months doesn't mean anything there's nobody in the market for your particular plane at that time. You have a very particular airplane. It may take a while to sell for what it's actually worth.

  • @tobyray8700
    @tobyray8700 8 місяців тому +1

    The battery

  • @watashiandroid8314
    @watashiandroid8314 6 місяців тому

    Budget projects. They're more associable.
    Also, I agree with not including ADS-B, but rather because it is not needed for most of the country.

  • @johnleadman6428
    @johnleadman6428 7 місяців тому

    Greetings from Madeira Island, PT How about Aircraft insurance which can protect you and your aircraft from various types of risks, such as accidents, weather, or vandalism. Have you accounted for this item?

  • @HobbitHomes263
    @HobbitHomes263 7 місяців тому

    you want to have a ballwith a kit plane try the Zenith 750 STOL. those 50 ft take offs elevtor ride climb outs are too much fun.or, drop in a Viking 195T and hang on the prop.

  • @wherecondorssoar7175
    @wherecondorssoar7175 8 місяців тому

    UMM..., so what about the various outfits that you purchased at Goodwill? I mean, come on...LOL

  • @donaldlynam390
    @donaldlynam390 4 місяці тому

    I owned one of these aircraft, and they are killers if you don't perform the "B" upgrade mandated by the former manufacturer. Cost anywhere from $2000 to $4000.

  • @miloswanson9646
    @miloswanson9646 8 місяців тому +1

    Years ago, I got into a minor 'argument/discussion' with my Old Man about the time/money I was spending on my car hobby. I put my 'time' value as my own personal entertainment. Why? Tinkering/modifying my car is something I like to do with my 'free time'. That is what a 'hobby' is!!! What do you call value of time spent drinking at a bar, or taking the boat out, or...

  • @tomster70
    @tomster70 8 місяців тому +1

    Man hours by an owner and friends is known as sweat equity. You do not associate a labor cost with that. It's time you are willing to give to a project. I think the $22K is a great value for that aircraft!

  • @fergman300
    @fergman300 8 місяців тому

    Love the look of that airplane... I wish they were still available new. How about do a Raffle, sell some tickets.....lets go, make a profit for your channel to buy more airplanes. The do a give away at Oshkosh 2024

  • @xrismanessa3993
    @xrismanessa3993 7 місяців тому

    Airplane is cheaper to buy and very much expensive to maintain and run things like hanger and flying. Bugatti Ferrari Mercedes bmw Audi . But all in all if you can afford why not.

  • @chrisgraythereal
    @chrisgraythereal 8 місяців тому

    So cool to see "what it costs" video that doesn't gloss over the incidentals and value of your time. You can always make more money, but hours spent on a prroject are hours you'll never get back. I can see you enjoy what you do, so that's great, but I also watch boat rebuild videos where people spend literally weeks in respirators sanding fibreglass! Insanity, better to work at a more fun job and pay some other idiot to do that donkey work.
    Enjoy your aeroplane, you guys make great videos and are living the life. Congratulations on your win.

  • @danielbrandt2404
    @danielbrandt2404 8 місяців тому

    How much money did you make from the UA-cam videos? Add that BACK in. What was the real cost? JMO

  • @youtimkal
    @youtimkal 8 місяців тому +2

    i think you forgot to add the new battery cost

  • @charleswesley9907
    @charleswesley9907 Місяць тому

    Has the wings been fixed , factory built or homebuilt . so it will not flutter like they would do before the AD's . The wings have to be disassembled and rebuilt from the original factory built . With no log books you better be sure . The original design had a problem with wing flutter and wing immediate failure . With no log books and being abandoned I would have someone look at it .

  • @kendemers8821
    @kendemers8821 29 днів тому

    You have a very educational channel. I like the humor and you are motivating me to find and refurbish my own aircraft. Thanks!

  • @seancrombie458
    @seancrombie458 4 місяці тому

    Very cool, I am local and just starting my training out of KCHD and KFFZ. I would love to meet you guys and see your planes sometime

  • @SomeAcidCash
    @SomeAcidCash 8 місяців тому +3

    Just started my flight training!

    • @JRAviation
      @JRAviation  8 місяців тому +1

      Awesome, congratulations!

  • @DanFrederiksen
    @DanFrederiksen 8 місяців тому

    Eclipse 500 stuff. sell the citation and get one :) Ricky has plenty money

  • @markalexwhite
    @markalexwhite 8 місяців тому

    You appear to have a third eyebrow emerging above your top lip?!

  • @rainsilversplash4376
    @rainsilversplash4376 4 місяці тому

    When I watched the first video on this plane, as soon as the motor caught, I figured the the total cost to take-off would be about $10,000, so you beat the heck out of my guesstimate!

  • @rickdunagan5779
    @rickdunagan5779 6 місяців тому

    The CHEAP stuff is much more engaging. More please.

  • @KilroggWOW
    @KilroggWOW 8 місяців тому +1

    Technically you should include the ADSB cost, although you didn't spend the money specifically for this project, you did both need the part and had already purchased it for another project. It's not really free and was at a cost for a previous project at almost a loss as reselling would have lost you money. Love the project, keep up the good work.

  • @neildearham1840
    @neildearham1840 2 місяці тому

    I would like to know if it is possible to do a PPl license online? I understand that the flying hours needed need to be done at a flight school. As a South African I just can not afford to do the theory and the practical at a flight school. Thank you for all your content. I love all your work.

  • @lucmatter9601
    @lucmatter9601 7 місяців тому

    It’s a hobby and hobbies have no real opportunity cost. The cost is transformed in fun. Right?

  • @mesprojects674
    @mesprojects674 8 місяців тому +1

    The number I usually hear and see is somewhere around a 60 percent cost reduction due to a lack of logbooks. So you’d have to have a buyer that believes it’s a 60-70k plane to get back to that number, or someone that’s willing to take the risk there wasn’t a prop strike, accident, or some other hidden stuff going on. I’ll say from experience there might be some gremlins that don’t pop up until you start flying it 20-30 hours. It’s a sweet looking plane tho and it would be neat to see you guys take some trips with it or like acrobatic lessons if it’s rated for that

  • @barrydraper
    @barrydraper 8 місяців тому +2

    Very cool outcome! Well worth the investment. 👍

  • @YeshuaAgapao
    @YeshuaAgapao 8 місяців тому

    How much would all the labor be if you didn't have all that free labor with you as a DIY helper?

  • @fredwilliams6843
    @fredwilliams6843 8 місяців тому

    Congratulations on a this fix er upper. Have no idea what it’s worth, $40-60K?

  • @reddyornott9981
    @reddyornott9981 6 місяців тому

    I thought Sam Bankman Fried went to jail? still out there buying planes who'd ave known it

  • @nickdawson6832
    @nickdawson6832 8 місяців тому

    25,000 + for that plane. Good deal. You should definitely offer him some money weather he takes it or not that's beside the point.

  • @networkg
    @networkg 7 місяців тому

    Wait ! Did he missed the cost of the Goodwill Clothes ! Holding back for a future video Update?

  • @Cut2Finish
    @Cut2Finish 8 місяців тому +2

    That's the only affordable plane I've seen in the last 20 years. Great deal! Congrats on the W

  • @BomBoo-rn8gj
    @BomBoo-rn8gj 8 місяців тому

    Well...for us Boat-Nuts it was money thrown into the clouds instead of the water. The important thing is that it was done very well with infectious enthusiasm.

  • @fortdriver
    @fortdriver 7 місяців тому +1

    Cirrus video?

  • @timlahr6572
    @timlahr6572 8 місяців тому

    If you are going to add your labor to the cost then you should deduct the amount you made from your UA-cam videos on the plane !!! Fair is fair !!!

  • @bobrider7198
    @bobrider7198 8 місяців тому

    You should subtract what that plan made you on UA-cam making videos

  • @danross344
    @danross344 5 місяців тому

    I would’ve put a new fuel pump in it just for safety measures. Can’t cost that much money?

  • @donaldholman9070
    @donaldholman9070 8 місяців тому

    bravo…..good for you. Starting a business is hard. Make sure everyone gets paid.

  • @DirkLarien
    @DirkLarien 7 місяців тому

    Fly-tex Sun protection would be my first buy 🌞😎

  • @Airplanefish
    @Airplanefish 8 місяців тому

    Im guessing your transponder cert is due? And ELT battery?

  • @NormReitzel
    @NormReitzel 8 місяців тому

    Cheer up, dude, you could have boiught a horse. Of course, you can't ear an airplane.

  • @drknight27
    @drknight27 8 місяців тому

    When the plane sells, how much are you going to pay Larry if you haven’t already?

  • @petetofani4896
    @petetofani4896 8 місяців тому

    Profit is not a dirty word. This was a good project, and if you are not making a profit, you are not going to be around very long.

  • @chipb4617
    @chipb4617 8 місяців тому

    How much did you make on UA-cam revenue? Plus what’s it worth at the end?

  • @alechendryx7023
    @alechendryx7023 8 місяців тому

    There is one at KCFV that is in much better condition than yours and its for sale. and it's always been hangared.

  • @bonou21941
    @bonou21941 8 місяців тому

    Has anyone ever told you that you look like "Screech" from Save from the Bell? Lol

  • @lesterwood2564
    @lesterwood2564 5 місяців тому

    I think a fair price considering no log books would be about 45 to 50 thousand

  • @normk5761
    @normk5761 8 місяців тому +2

    At some point the gains you reap sharing your passion for these kinds of restorations will be there, albeit difficult to calculate. You'll inspire others to follow in your footsteps and they'll return the favor...of that I'm sure of! Thank you for all you do....

  • @Dave_1966
    @Dave_1966 3 місяці тому

    Have you tried contacting the previous owner to see if the logs are available? 😊

  • @pollysims6040
    @pollysims6040 8 місяців тому

    I feel obligated to say that your legs look pretty awkward in that plane no offense intended good job on the project thanks for showing us the details

  • @chuckward8650
    @chuckward8650 8 місяців тому

    Is this airplane going to be for sale? If so I would be highly interested in purchasing this aircraft

  • @leonardjanda6181
    @leonardjanda6181 8 місяців тому

    Lol I’m watching Barret- Jackson know lol

  • @PopDisplay1
    @PopDisplay1 8 місяців тому

    Do you have to declare the "free" or "donated" parts on your income tax?

  • @hwymangc65
    @hwymangc65 8 місяців тому +1

    Really want to see a video of y’all obtaining your pilot certificate!