5 Reasons NOT To Buy a Caprice PPV!
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Every reason to buy one: it has V8, V8 go vroom, V8 go fast.
Exactly!
you buy an ex police car and cry that it's interior is that of a police car
It's a old cop car It's not made to be luxury on the inside
This one sure was! Holden made higher trim packages in these models, they are popular in Australia!
Police departments couldn't handle the maintenance issues they simply got rid of them across the country
Actually that's exactly what it was made for. In Australia they were made as the luxury version of the commodore which you know as Pontiac G8 and Chevy SS. The cops over in America just ripped everything out of it.
@@mrv8lover314 I've never heard that one before
Exactly its a factory street rod I want one
I actually like the way it looks, especially with the bigger custom Z06 wheel setup you have on yours.
I really dig it also, the wheels are really good!
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In its original form as a Holden Caprice, these thing are awesome and luxurious. different dash, head unit, console, seats, door cards, wheels. etc, look it up.
The Australian versions are much nicer cars, the PPV’s are stripped down and purpose built.
I got the wk Caprice n it's a comfortable beast 🦾
@@knifethrower9733 that’s awesome!
Get the detective version it's got full interior but good luck finding the detective version.
In Australia we used them for politicians and heads of state, in US, the PPV variant was used for criminals, pretty much the same purpose when you think about it
Was it just me or did his 🔥 burnouts make me wanna go get one right now 😂😂😂😂
Mission accomplished
I bought a 2012 ppv Memorial Day 2022.
By July 1st had the DoD Delete done, AFM detuned, Rotofab CAI,
and Texas Speed LS7 lifters with a Stage 1 cam installed.
Cosmetically I got the headlights undulled, window tint, and new tires on the OEM steel wheels,
had it detailed properly to remove the remnants of the word "POLICE" from the hood and clean it up.
Yes, parts will be scarce, and expensive.
I'm not a car guy but when I discovered that in removing the bull bar,
while it was doing police pursuit
(or whatever)
the New Jersey Police
(or whomever) broke the skid plate and front fascia where the steel bolts attached to the plastic.
It was hanging with a 3mm gap on the driver's side and 1mm on the passenger side.
(Unacceptable)
To correct this
I braided 10 bungee cords adding one at a time, and now the whole front end is secured to the frame, with flat bungees and solid.
There's no gap remaining on either side, and none of the cords are overly stressed and each is supporting the others.
It had 95,000 miles on it.
It is a blast to drive but I haven't had it over 65 mph yet.
Shelbykiller(tm) dynotuned it for street.
I know how powerful and fast it is, but I'm in no hurry to get anywhere and 0-60 is exhilarating enough.
It's a retired cop car, I'm Retired Army.
I don't have money to waste on it but I have never enjoyed any car more.
As an homage to it's Holden heritage I made the Chevrolet bowtie on the grill red with a bottle of $1.99 nail polish
-since bungee cords are visible I'm not vain about minutiae.
It wouldn't even occur to me to do burnouts, drift, or race it, but I'm on a fixed income.
It was my 60th birthday present to myself and I expect it to last the rest of my life.
Shelbykiller Performance LLC in Oklahoma City did all my engine work.
I like it a lot.
I traded my 1980 Eldorado for the PPV.
(& 60 month loan)
My other daily driver is a 1981 Fox body T-Bird with the 302.
Possible future mods are a manual transmission, headers, and exhaust upgrades.
Possibly.
For now, it's just fine.
That’s awesome Andrew!!! Sounds like you have done quite a bit of work to the car in a fairly short period of time, I am glad you are enjoying the car so much! Glad you were able to repair all the issues with decommissioning, I’m sure with your tender care it will last quite some time!
Air Force vet here looking to buy one in the next 2 weeks
@@deaf2819 there's one for sale here in Phoenix Arizona. It's up for auction on public surplus. Today is the last day and it's at$8600.
@@chensonsr got mine already , 6k 6.0 car
Bro. Dont ever type that much on a comment section ever again PLZ. W/ all due respect… lol tf
The Navigation was actually a optional extra on the Caprice even here in Australia you had to buy CapriceV to get navigation as standard the navigation was actually separate unit that was installed into the glovebox and mine doesn’t go through tires because I don’t do burn outs
Points taken but either way I'm sure it's still a fun car. I'm sure most people buy this car for the powertrain capability. Like me I wanna swap an l96 and boost it
I would definitely recommend it! I really enjoy the car and wouldn’t consider selling it because of those five reasons. The power train capability is definitely an attraction.
We got a ton of these cars laying around junkyards in the middle east
That’s wild!
There is one of these for sale here in Phoenix Arizona on public surplus auction. It ends today and the bid is currently at$8600. It is low mileage and pretty clean. But that seems a bit pricey to me. What do you think?
What was the miles on that? I'm lookin at 1 8500 160k miles
Do you know what other wheels are interchangeable? I'm guessing that c6 wheels are pretty expensive
Used wheels can be had reasonable. The bolt pattern is 5x120, so there is a good selection. Camaro wheels, G8 wheels, SS wheels, etc. Some folks are running pretty creative used wheel packages.
Hey Mick, what wheels are on your sled? Thnx,I wanna get some different wheels maybe u can help me out
The wheels in this video are C6 Z06 18/19 staggered.
Im dealing with the 4th reason at the moment. Might replace front seats with kirkeys but theres just not alot of ways to cut weight and keep it streetable.
Seats are an area I’m not willing to cut comfort for weight. I like to drive my cars and having to drive in Kirkeys would ruin that for me.
@@MickelsonRacingChannel if i can get it to run a 7.00 1/8 this spring ill probly just stop there. My best time was a 8.09 but that was before the nitrous and 3.45 diff.
@@boostbeast8731 3.45, nice diff! 7.0 is a good goal, quicker than my car!
@@MickelsonRacingChannel ill post some vids this coming season. Finally got the car how i want it. This isnt a cheap hobby at all.
@@boostbeast8731 you got that right! I look forward to the update videos!!
You fixed it ?
Radio can be reflashed to allow BT and backup cam depending on the year
I just recently ended up doing that, game changer!
@@MickelsonRacingChannel first need to fix my volume buttons
@@liveandletlive2894 that makes a big difference
Have knobs available
@@dennisshuler2541 I got some replacements recently, thanks though!
I'm saving up for one right now. Dealers are selling them for 8k for clapped out ones and up to 20k for a low mileage/Idle hour example. Do you know what they go for straight from the auction? I assume dealers put quite a markup.
I am not sure what auction prices bring, I bought mine used private party.
I paid 7k in March for a 11 with 98k. Body is immaculate (4 dents total, no scratches) $1500 to ship and I have it listed on Facebook marketplace for 10k with 20" New Camaro wheels. Dennis Shuler
Auctions they're going from 3k to 8k
Were to are they forsale
once you got to reason 5.. it made me want to get a caprice lol
Haha that makes two of us!
@@MickelsonRacingChannel i have a 89 and 90 caprice.. i want to get the 96 caprice 9c1 but its so hard to find in ontario canada.. my dad had a 79 caprice and my uncle had a 85 caprice.. so its definitely a tradition im keeping up.. just might have to skip the 96 ppv model and go to the 2012
@@steveg9166 I wouldn’t mind a 94-96, I sure do like my 12 though!
The rear body parts issue isnt a issue if your gonna convert it into a Ute
Good call! I sure would like a Ute!!!
If you keep the original tires and not do burnouts, your tires last longer. Also, it's a police car not a civilian model the interior is designed for police work not comfortably.
I found a 2015 caprice ppv for sale near me. Would it be a bad daily? How's the reliability?
I have found the reliability to be very good, especially with standard maintenance. I would have used mine for a daily if I wasn’t lowered and lived on gravel roads.
Can you get this lifted
The fabric headliner has disintegrated which is a common problem for Holden cars which are left out in the hot sun. A motor trimmer should be able to remove the cardboard liner, clean it up and install new fabric. There are video clips on UA-cam if you want to do it yourself.
Thanks! I actually did a view on the headliner replacement also!
@@MickelsonRacingChannelthis car still weighs less than a scat pack, and its larger
@@bigmansir3745 good point!
the doggo loves the car 😂
He really does!
Even if I work in a General Motors mechanic garage, I love Caprice PPV's all the time. The truth is even if I did such car and engine restoration even as a job makes me want to keep something like that even swapping a 2019 Chevy Corvette engine as an option.
Nice!
@@MickelsonRacingChannel If you are mechanical expertise, including great at restoring cars and engine parts, this is the best possibility for a job all car enthusiasts must want.
@@sharptoothtrex4486 I agree
What exhaust do you have on it?
It has long tube headers, 3” dual X-pipe exhaust into mufflers. Custom built for the car, not a kit.
this is a good car for an ordinary daily driver
and it's a very safe car
I enjoyed driving it daily for the short time I did.
In Australia, the Caprice was used to drive Politicians and heads of state around. In America the Caprice was used to haul criminals around..
Same same really!! the only difference is the Aussie criminals got the leather pack.
That’s a fun fact!
Also, I'm one of the fortunate ones that has an '11 9C3 PPV. I've got one of 20 in karma blue shipped to the US in 2011.
Dang, that’s awesome!
can i replace the dash with a apple car play
I’m sure there is a way to accomplish anything, however I do not have the answer to that.
Can you get parts from Australia
I’m a 16 year old there isn’t any caprices in my state I’ve finally found one 2014 caprice 169,000 miles. This will be my first car is there any serious problems at those miles and are they reliable
These cars have their common problems. My car has 140,000 miles on it. I’ve had to do a starter, strut bushings are common failures, plus misc maintenance. They are as reliable as any other LS based platform in my opinion. 2014 is the first year of the refresh, it has more desirable interior and a column shifter.
@@MickelsonRacingChannel Im going to go look at it tmr the thing that worries me is the high idle hours it has 8656 is that a lot and 169,000 should I get it or is it a bad choice I need advice I can’t risk it breaking on me
@@GTZ3Z I am not in a position to provide professional advice. However, if I was not able to risk a vehicle breaking I would not purchase the vehicle.
Also the DoD (cylinder deact junk) wipes the lifters/cam out so highly recommend deleting that, or you will have to do that at some point. Matter of when not if
You can find TONS of caprice parts in KSA and they’re dirt cheap
The front windshield costs 20$ 😂
That’s good information!
What's the rim size and off set
Factory C6 Z06 wheels. 18/19 staggered.
Looking at 2014-2015 or V1 CTS V or G8 for next car thanks!
Awesome! Let me know what you decide on!
@@MickelsonRacingChannel surely!
$1400 bucks for a windshield? Was that for a Pontiac G8 or were you quoting pricing for a PPV?
They have rain sensors and fancy sh*t, so $1400 for genuine OEM sounds about right.
@@turbobrian yeah my '11 ain't got none of that garbage. The G8 windshield is a lot cheaper.
I don’t care about any of that stuff, I want THAT MOTOR
Me too!
The last set I bought needed this plastic shims or spacers and I was really careful about trying to get the correct wheels! I bought a 5 spoke mag that look terrific but I can't get them balanced correctly because weights only go on the inside of the wheel, at least that's the excuse they're giving me!
These C6 wheels require a spacer in the rear, I believe it’s 7.5mm if I remember correctly.
Good early points about part availability
That part is definitely true
Where do you buy parts?
Online generally. eBay, Facebook groups, etc.
Wow coming to this video really late. I was under the impression that the Caprice had much more comminality with the Impala which it resembles. I was hoping to swap my 9C1 to RWD using Caprice rear subframe and engine / driveline parts. Still a modern RWD sedan with LS power has to have some redeeming qualities. Just need to find a wholesale source for tires.
Wholesale tires would be key!
The funny part is you knew all these reasons before you bought it and you still bought it lol
I really enjoy the car!
Look for a detective model for full interiors and most likely less beat on day to day! I'm buying my second detective model this weekend!
Dang! 9C3’s are so much nicer than the 9C1’s. You can tell mine was used and abused.
How do you think Aussies feel when buying a comaro? Same problem.
The interior is shit cause its a cop car. Import a full caprice interior from. Australia.
I agree! An AUS spec Caprice would be awesome!!
What, camaro isn't available in AUS in civilian form? Didn't know that, wow.
Well, you'll have to go to Australia to get body parts, better yet, you'll have to find an importer of Holden motor vehicle parts for your car.
2013 Chevy Impala ltz & Pontiac GTO & G8 front end work for this car also
That’s very interesting, I never knew about that!
Yep the width on these cars are 72.5 the GTO is 72.9 same as Impala so give you space you need you for headlights and brackets and stuff
@@CartelHitboy that’s interesting!
Really only the first one is something to consider, the rest should be expected by anyone who has the slightest idea what they're getting. My goal is to turn one into a rough and tough mad-max inspired deal, so the rest aren't downsides. I just want the form factor and powertrain.
A mad-max inspired caprice would be interesting for sure!
Just found a company online that you send your ppv Navi unit to and they'll unlock it
@@tiger9racing779 awesome!
Sir,I hear what your saying but I'm still buying one
Good plan, I love mine!
Thank you for lowering the price on the market
I do what I can
Yea im still getting one lol I'm not dropping 60k for a scat
I highly recommend them, they are good, fun cars!
Mate you just said it why just your car is poor quality of interior it's just you bought an EX POLICE CRUISER SO THAT'S WHY YOU GOT VINAL BACK SEAT & HEADLINING STRIPT FOR POLICE LIGHTS & CENTRE CONSOLE MISSING IT WAS TAKEN OUT FOR PURPSPEX DEVIED SO YOU BOUGHT A POLICE CRUISER
Thanks for that info!
Never seen a PPV with Z06 wheels nice…
Thanks!
Isn’t it a Pontiac G8?👀 why can’t you find parts for that?
It’s actually a Chevy Caprice, G8 body parts are different.
They didn’t bring over many of either the G8 or the Caprice, you also gotta figure the newest G8 is 15 years old and 15 years is a lot of time for low production cars to start dwindling, ergo very little spare parts after all the time.
@@ianscheurer very true!
Nothing beats statesman and caprice! Ive had mine for 20 years no issues and i dont want any other car..... im in australia with a statesman 2007.
That’s awesome!
Found one for 6k the passenger side fender is dented
Nice find!!!
Also , just like I've said to my nefeue.. have yoh ever watched the tachometer to cease to be in whatever you RPM it's going to , I'd be worried that it will be over raved easy because the tachometer needle flys up fast regardless of ignition cut, shorly it goes 7ooorpm at least 🤔👉
Valid concern, better safe than sorry!
My dad don't have problems drifting his caprice ppv
That’s pretty sweet!
Can you do a Holden conversion?
A person could do a Holden conversion, but I will not be converting this car. Some folks see it as Holden built so it should be Holden. I see it as Chevrolet purchased and branded so I prefer the Chevrolet.
He doesn't even look after it now so him doing a holden conversion is pointless given the fact he brought it as it was and is complaining about it , obviously he didn't do his research before buying it , if he wanted a nicer model then he should have brought the nicer model, not buy a car designed for a specific purpose then complain because he got it .
Well received. After viewing this video, I definitely will not be purchasing a Caprice PPV. Thank you!
Good luck!
I am trying to get one 2016 actually but still debating …hmm
That’s awesome, I would recommend!
@@MickelsonRacingChannel really sir ..
But sir if I may ask what major maintenance u had so far and how meny kilometres n the clock
@@jubair-the.ferrette I have 140,000 miles and no major issues. It’s been a solid car. Windshields are expensive and hard to find.
I work for a dealer and none of the parts minus body are an issue tbh
I agree, all the chassis parts seem to be easily accessible as they interchange between other models.
@@MickelsonRacingChannel Only thing that I found was the rear springs are discontinued but I’m sure something else fits without much trouble. In fact after digging a bit it seems the body panels are pretty cheap same with the windows. The hood is well over $1k for whatever reason tho.
@@charmingmander331 I have coilovers which are available all over. Windshield was a bit spendy, otherwise it’s not terrible.
Love these cars. Hate having to hear Australians tell us about them like we don’t have the internet
They really are good cars!
Hey we need to keep reminding everyone that we once made great cars.
He got taken on the windshield...i own a PPV and i replaced my windshield got under 200 bucks...the only thing i agree with is the regular parts like brakes ect...but just go to the dealership and they will order it for u
Good to know about the windshield! That’s a lot less than I paid!
Why would you ever do all that to it? I’d use regular tires. It’s not a race car at all.
Mine doesn’t have any holes drilled in it. It also never saw service so it had 38K when i bought it. I also don’t abuse it like this guy does.
That’s awesome! It sounds like you have a really nice quality car!!
The expense of the body parts and lack of ability to drift makes me not want that car thanks it was on my want list.
That’s a bummer you changed your mind, but there certainly are downsides!
@MickelsonRacingChannel it's ok the ppv wasn't my first choice it was down a list a few cars. I want a 2010 chevy camaro ss in manual. If I can't get that for the right price I'll settle for a base hemi dodge charger if I can manual swap it to a normal stick shift. I'd consider a trailblazer ss also.
@@neoknight14215 I had a stick 5th Gen early on, it was a fun car. I daily drive a trailblazer ss for a couple years also, I really liked that car.
Well then I'll be over with my flatbed to just take that one off your hands. Scrap is up right now so I'm sure you'll be fine with the payment.
I quite enjoy the car, I think I’ll keep it 😊
There was a time many moons ago I wouldn't pay $1400 for a whole car, let alone a windshield. 😂
Now, serious question.....and I know your vid is a smidgen tongue-in-cheek, but:
Do any of the Chevy Impala parts from the 2010s fit on that car?
As far as I am aware, none of the Impala parts change over to the Caprice. The taillights and trunk lid look close, but are not the same.
The drivetrain and suspension are interchangeable with the G8 and some 5th Gen Camaro stuff.
Damn bro what happened to your ceiling
It’s lived a full life
My 2014 has the radio where I can use Bluetooth, interior is actually really good, and yeah tires get expensive 😅😂
The 14’s do have better interiors! How do you like the column shifter?
@@MickelsonRacingChannel the column shifter is actually really nice since I'm used to driving my suburban lol seems more normal to me, just only thing about my car I don't like is that I didn't delete the d.o.d before it went bad so now she's sitting until I can get her fixed
@@benjaminchubb713 ahhh, the DOD does suck. Glad you like the shifter though!
@@MickelsonRacingChannel yeah im getting it deleted, cammed, e85 tuned and some other goodies shooting for 450whp within the next month im excited to see what this thing will do
@@benjaminchubb713 that’s awesome!!!
Maybe stop beating the crap out of the tires if you want them to last longer 😂
That’s a nifty idea, I didn’t consider that…
Bluetooth is not removed on all of them just some years.
That’s good to know!
@@MickelsonRacingChannel No problem. The Bluetooth works in my 2014.
Swap the radio out 🤷♂️
Good idea!
It’s ls3 obviously u can find parts any where
It’s actually an L77, which is a 6.0L but is LS3 based. LS3’s are 6.2L and have slightly different internals.
made in australia thats why plenty of parts here.
Yep!
Sorry but I have to disagree biggest cost is Gasoline 6.0 here I put sticky Good years factory spec they don’t burn off the car goes it’s a corvette eater for sure
New tires would make a big difference for me!
We in Saudi love this car everything you said including entertainment center we can solve it here give me 1000 bucks and you love your car again 😂
Dang, that’s great to know!
Um, I was quoted under $300 from my local guy.
Dang, that’s a good price!
$1400? You don’t have insurance?
I am fully insured
@@MickelsonRacingChannel well then you wouldnt be paying 1400$ for a body panel after being rear ended...
@@alphaink3843 oh good deal, thanks!
The reason the caprices interior is poor quality was to save money and this car wasn’t meant to be sold to the general public so obviously the interior isn’t gonna have many features or has cheap materials
That’s a good point!
only downside is no manual gearbox
A factory manual transmission was available in Australia, but never in the U.S.A.
Look I just I just gotta know man.I have to own it. What even is this car. I have never seen or heard of it before since about 5 minutes ago.
Chevrolet Caprice PPV! This one is a 2012, so the 2011-2013 model. There is also a 2014-2017 model in the USA with an interior facelift. These were imported from Australia into the USA strictly for police use only from 2011-2017. 6.0L L77 V8, six speed auto transmission, rear wheel drive.
@@MickelsonRacingChannel huh thats pretty cool! Thank you for the info! So they are pretty much just a Holden/Chevy?
@@blaise1016 it’s a Holden. Chevy just rebranded it for the import.
I call bs on the windshield i paid 250 installed 😂😂😂
Wow, you got a deal. I didn’t pay anywhere near that for mine…
But deep down you love it
I do love it! 😁
I love my 2015 PPV
I really enjoy my ‘12!
@@MickelsonRacingChannel they are fun cars with tons of potential over time the market will grow for us
@@mackzaddydre I agree! Great performance for the value!
Yours is so clean 🔥🔥
Thank you!
You should get another interior
I did!
I want 1. And they are cheaper than a G8
Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren’t. Depends on the year, trim, and condition.
What is ppv? We watching wrestle mania?
PPV stands for Police Patrol Vehicle.
You can pick these up for $4k and can crank 700 HP. Nice clickbait video. Only gear heads are gonna grab these beasts, and I’m one of em
I am one also, such a great value
Me 3....but the transmission is definitely something he should have mentioned. The 4l60E in these can only 400hp reliability.
Someone needs a whambulance. A cop car ! Police get in and out hundreds of times a day possibly thru multiple shifts! Seats built to take vests, guns,gun belts.And you get a chevy person to unlock the infotainment.The only thing you said that was true is parts, it's an australpion car that is no longer made! try finding parts for any foreign car that is no longer in production! Try to find an LS powered car that starts with 355HP for less than 6K sometimes and cop brakes, shocks a reverse gear that does 38 MPH and who knows what else! Guy whines about a car he's doing 30 second burnouts in and can drive it all day! You take care of a car like this and it will run a very long time and the value is going to increase. It's a rare car, you don't have to beat the shill out of it! It is a heavy car because it's the only Police car ever built as a Police car! Go buy a cavalier and quit your whining!
Sounds good Daryn, I’ll go drag my cavalier out of the trees!
it why people use the G8 parts
Lots of G8 and Camaro part interchangeably on the 11-13 model.
Not completely true on the blue tooth. That is gonna be car specific. had a 2012 and 2 2014"s all would blue tooth to my phone. Got 11 years in these. Ok cars just kinda sketchy build quality, and for some reason the rear suspension was never sorted out vs a Charger. squirmy butt in curves like sway bar is to small.
Good info, thanks!
Thats crazy because my 2011 with stock suspension handles WAY better than it should in corners. I've takin corners expecting something bad and nothing, hangs like it's on rails
@@Ghost-fc6oh I’ve never driven a stock suspension Caprice, but I agree that it handles well.
I must agree with you on everything stated. Steering wheel and dash are trash 2014 up interiors are much nicer. Darn headliner good for 100k which started falling off on a 2,800 mile road trip. Joan fabric microfiber and contact cement. ($1,100 headliner no thanks) The seats are just boring, I got the aluminum plate center console non working rear doors. Can’t remove the head unit as it has ac functions. The rear tires another reason why I didn’t stagger to keep the rotation and that’s with a stock rear end. (We must have lead feet!)
Glad to know your experience is similar to mine! Being a lead foot sure has its consequences!
@@MickelsonRacingChannel
Unfortunately it’s one of those love hate relationships, toxic and costly just like our lead foot!
@@WoodLox I hear you on that!
$1100 headliner? Mine cost about $200 Oz for a 2012 VE SS Commodore. Fitter reckons on a replacement about every ten years.
I doubt it would cost over $1000 to fix the headliner, a couple of hundred at the most. There are videos on UA-cam on how to do it yourself and some on the Holden Commodore which the PPV is based on.
G8 interior is a direct swap
@@DevvonO yes it is! I have recently added GTO seats actually.
Yeah, still gettin' one...
Now I want one more! Thanks for nothing. 😤
Glad I could help!
You got the crap interior because here in Australia we got leather and a much better interior
Australia has all the good Holdens!
As far as reliability how is it*
It’s been great so far, very reliable and no complaints!
@@snakeviruswhisperer205 that’s good to know! I’m glad I have BMR control arms in mine!
It’s lighter than a hellcat
That is true