Oppenheimer offers lessons on technologies' 'unintended consequences': Full Christopher Nolan
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2023
- On a panel of physicists moderated by Chuck Todd, Christopher Nolan discusses the story of J. Robert Oppenheimer 78 years after he led a group of scientists to gather at the Trinity site to test the first atomic bomb.
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#Oppenheimer #ChristopherNolan #AtomicBomb
It's great how Chris movies create academic conversation, as it happened with Interstellar. His project is just more than a movie.
What’s neat is that most of Nolan’s films make philosophical arguments, especially in Inception, Interstellar, and Tenet. There has never been a more philosophical and intellectual filmmaker than Nolan!
@@iamtheprotagonistI would say Stanley Kubrick is the only other filmmaker like Nolan. The big difference between the two is that Nolan writes his own work, but in terms of vision, filmmaking and philosophy, Kubrick is an equal.
People underestimate art. Art is more than just entertainment. It might also be engagement. But also, it is a starter of public conversations, and I think Nolan is one of the only artists who are acknowledging it as such and doing something good with it.
GREAT panel! Even though Nolan has often featured physicist's work in his films, this conversation really brought through more sociological elements of science. Amazing!
Absolutely love what Christopher said about developers in Silicon Valley taking responsibility, and he’s literally the only person I’ve heard say this. I hope and pray people will listen to him.
WHY WOULD THEY? HE'S NOT A SCIENTIST
@@thoticcusprime9309 And you don't know where yours CAPs key is.
It's impressive - to see such amazing people diligently working on something for several years, and now we have the chance to absorb 3 hours of this perfect content...
The interviewer keeps interrupting them while they are talking. That's not a good interviewer. Be respectful. Anyways, this movie is a masterpiece.
For an interviewer this man sure does interrupt a lot.
The closer that it gets for me to be sitting in my seat at the IMAX theater to see Oppenheimer, I find myself becoming increasingly anxious. I don't think that any movie that I have seen so far in my life(49;years old) has TRUELY made me feel this way. Growing up in the 80s, I heard things here and there about the Manhatten Project, but I guess being young and thinking that I understood it, goes to show how we are in our youth. Long story short lol, I'm excited to see Nolan's sensibilities take on this subject matter, but, at the same time, I am nervous to LEARN what I thought I already knew!
imagine a 16 year old like me who has never really experienced any big conflict such as the cold war heading into this movie. i'm just going into the movie ready to take everything in.
I hope everyone reads this book in addition to the movie
That is such a brilliant way of phrasing my thoughts after seeing the film - ""..nervous to learn what I thought I already knew". Curious if you've seen the film yet & what you thought?
00:00 Introduction of key individuals
01:21 Questioning the portrayal of the character
02:32 Reasons for making the movie
03:24 Anxiety and unsettling questions from the film
05:00 Familiarity of Los Alamos scenes
06:17 Engagement and experience in the film
12:14 Understanding the scientific process is more important than understanding the science.
14:10 The decision to not focus on the carnage and stay true to Oppenheimer's experience.
16:03 The film's accuracy and interpretation of historical events.
18:01 Oppenheimer's happiness and his moments of peace.
20:01 The ongoing relevance of Oppenheimer's story and its impact on current scientists.
23:32 Oppenheimer's impact on the culture of the laboratory
25:00 Oppenheimer's transition from scientist to politician
27:00 The role of scientists in speaking out
28:00 The need for collaboration and communication between scientists and politicians
31:00 The constant threat of nuclear weapons
32:00 The concept of accountability in technology
33:00 The power and limitations of AI
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I can confidently say that this is the going to be the most important film of our time! It takes genius to make a film about a genius…and I hope the nuanced themes come across to the audience easily in the same manner as it did from this interview
Barbie will make more money and have a more lasting cultural impact 😊
@@MalEvansUSA Not sure about the latter, but only time will tell.
@@MalEvansUSA oppenheimer already made cultural impact. we all are living in it right now. we're in the post credit.
The most important man that Chuck Todd has spoken with all year lol
Great panel, its always a treat to listen to the legendary Christopher Nolan speak at length about his work
He did another interview with a French UA-camr that i thought was nothing short of amazing. He’s really good at explaining very complicated ideas in a simple way
@@VonJay Can you provide the link of that interview please?
@@dead.inside.585 found it…ua-cam.com/video/ilIefxbSJT8/v-deo.html. It’s kind of a gimmicky interview style but Nolan makes the best of it
@@dead.inside.585I am about 60% through the book, but I find myself dreading about reading Oppenheimer's life after WWII, knowing the terrible things done to him soon to come. Heartbreaking.
Powerful movie with a powerful message for a certain, uncertain TIME.
This is a gift. Thanks Meet the Press!
Nolans point on tactical nukes is spot on. There is no such thing. Once one goes off, another nuclear response will likely follow.
Cooperation between countries, especially ones you don't agree with is incredibly important.
No worries. Silly-con valley gods will allow AI to control all systems and what could possibly go wrong???
Absolutely. I think even the most staunch advocates of anti-nuclear sentiments will feel compelled to react with nuclear power when something they care about has been attacked by the enemy. It is best to have the preventative conversation as opposed to a curing one on a Global scale.
Or just remove all nukes
@@akhiltrc9708 false. stupid humans are not capable of doing that
The west would never use nuclear weapons as a response. The likely response is a precision strike at military targets and taking out the people responsible. Killing civilians in this cruel way is not an appropriate response. Christopher Nolan is not an expert on diplomacy, military strategy, politics or anything regarding that, he is a rich Hollywood director with expertise in how to make movies. Cooperation with war criminals and human rights abusers doesn't work. This is why we are in this mess. It's the naive belief that you can work with psychos. They need to be starved of investment, isolated politically and kept in their boundaries until the people in those countries revolt.
It’s such an annoying distraction to have a host who can’t keep from interrupting the panel.
I cannot wait chris nolan is my favorite filmmaker been seeing his films foe 10 15 years in theaters let's go
What do you do when actors cannot market the movie? Christopher Nolan brings out the real heroes in science to do the press... and it ain't gonna be done by nobody else...
I wish we could’ve heard this panel talking for longer. So much brain power on one stage. I feel that they only began to crack the surface of the larger questions towards the end and I appreciated every second of it
Kip Thorne + Christopher Nolan = Interstellar = Pure genius.
inception was better
I hate the moderator. Not doing his job on deepening the convo with chris or the panels. Gosh. Couldn’t stand him esp at the end of the conversation. Please!
This was a fascinating watch, I'm even more excited to see the film now
If you haven't, read the book. I was glued to it. Very very well written. I can't wait to see the film.
Incredible panel. Thank you.
Fantastic panel. It's great to see science inspiring art, which then (hopefully) inspires science and discussions about scientific progress and responsibility in other fields like AI today. I can't wait to experience the movie in IMAX.
This is a great panel. But I wish the reporter didn't interrupt and cut off the panel members so often. He also came across as unprepared with the inarticulate way he phrased his questions. Not a good moderator.
I thought this guy was a terrible moderator. He had an agenda to push. He really compared Oppenheimer to Faucci and I'm glad no one on the panel took the bait.
Cillian gonna have to top out over Sam Waterson (from Law & Order fame)...who protrayed Oppenheimer brilliantly in the tv-series on Oppenheimer way back in early 80s....that tv-series was brilliantly directed including the acting....perhaps this movie is based on similar theme lines....i have not seen the movie....but the tv-series from early 1980s had me glued.....totally glued!....in the words of a famous 90's hollywood movie where the lead says....."its horrible stuff sir....its one of those things we wish we could dis-invent"
32:42 "AI goes into defense infrastructure, and ultimately takes control the nuclear weapons." I see Nolan is a fan of The Terminator
This was amazing, Thank you.
..an amazing discussion!
Thank you,
I had a nice time watching this session :)
What a great video. Every panelist had something so interesting to say. I guess that's what it's like when you're smart, huh - the audience hangs on every word.
Interviewer is a dud
whoa! what a panel!!
Did he just compare Fauchi to Oppenheimer? oh god
Que buena entrevista 👍.
Paz en el mundo
Christopher Nolan : “I’m something of a scientist myself”
Did the interviewer really just compare Robert Oppenheimer to Fauci ???
What a clown comment
Some university would do well to present an honorary doctorate in physics to Nolan and Bird. The way Nolan explains his-a filmmaker’s-challenges in presenting the science of this movie, leaves you understanding that he has understood the physics of it all, way beyond graduate level studies!
Christopher Nolan comments regarding "... companies who ... bandy about ... words like 'algorithm', not knowing what they mean in any kind of meaningful mathematical sense ..."
A computer program is an algorithm. One of the oldest jokes in the profession goes, roughly, like this: You design the program, you define the inputs and the outputs, you write the code, you correct the compiler errors, you run the code and sit back helplessly as it does exactly what you told it to do, regardless of what you wanted.
With nuclear weapons ...
Why does Chuck Todd always have to interrupt people? He never learns.
An NBC anchor talking about the decline of democracy, how ironic.
More ..”more brilliant and artistic creations..” like this should be more widely produced in order to educate everyone on relevant worldly affairs and issues
Right on time to watch while having lunch
Fantastic
Can’t wait to see this movie. What better praise than from this select panel.
Chuck Todd sucks at moderating that’s it that’s my comment
Thank you, earnestly, Chuck Todd, for doing things for us nerds.
Chuck is a propagandist that tried to propagandize wrongfully bringing up Russia’s invasion of Ukraine when it was the USA that actually started the Ukraine crisis & escalated towards potential Nuclear holocaust
If only he would shut up for a second and let them speak. Great panel but Chuck Todd is a horrible moderator..
I feel like Nolan as writer/director and Jerry Goldsmith as composer, adapting virtually anything by Michael Crichton, would've yielded the most incredible results.
Where was this recorded ?
Something about the presenter was off. Then I realised it was NBC News.
Please add a spoiler warning to this video. I learned some things about the film that I wish I hadn’t
Do listen to what they say at 18:00 about spoilers
Did this fool just compare Oppenheimer to Fauci???
A world conscious of its history will continue to be a victim of its devices because it is too proud to acknowledge the plan of its creator.
wish the interviewer would shut up and let them talk more
with carlo? GREAT!
Chuck Todd is a terrible interviewer.
The reason Barbenheimer exists. See Barbie after, like that day. Just to wash the feeling off your skin. Excellent film Chris!
Hey chuck todd those 1.6k tumbs up ARE NOT FOR YOU.
It's a good movie!
Here we go again, into the cusp of a new technological revolution -AI,Fusion, Quantum Computing
MSNBC finally did something good! Last time it was When Interstellar came out
I just clicked for the title 🤣unintended consequences 🤣what were the intended consequences of building a giant bomb?🤣
My le bomb.... It le killed people? 😮
Ron Long of Dodge City was a frogman that was one of the first to enter into the bombing sight. He was careful with us as kids but explained what he saw at 21
Nolan is very smart
Oppenheimer and today the creators of AI remind me of Goethe`s ballad that I had to learn by heart in (german) school and that never seems to get old:
"The Sorcerer's Apprentice" ("Der Zauberlehrling")
ua-cam.com/video/18P38NisQLs/v-deo.html
I cringed when he compared fauchi to oppenheimer.... YIKES!
How weird to be having this conversation next to the director of the Lab- where the weapons program literally, designs tactical nuclear weapons. Very odd. But honestly, this new director seems pretty chill compared to directors in the past. Los Alamos is the weirdest place I ever lived. I'm happy I moved, and, my time there shaped my life forever. Oppenheimer is everywhere there. The "Lab" culture, the history, is everywhere. You can't escape it.
Hmmm… I wonder what other Nolan work explored the risks of technologies… oh yeah!
Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy’s Westworld. 😑
Chuck Todd is such a liar.
WHERE ARE ALL THE SETS FROM CHRISTOPHER NOLAN'S FILMS? This would be the coolest attraction in the world! Imagine: riding on the Endurance spacecraft or the Interstellar planes, visiting Cooper's house, hanging in the Tesseract like the main character, driving the Batmobile and having a drink in its cave, walking through the spinning room in Inception, strolling through the town of Oppenheimer. Just imagine. Where is all of this?
Christopher Nolan looks like Harry Enfield
Looking for my jet-pack ... any of you fellows seen it ?
And Hollywood is going to make 67 more brainless fast movies and John wick movies.
This host needs to stop interrupting, if Nolan is literally talking over you to get his point made. Then you need to step back.
Awesome panel. Chuck Todd sucks tho.
I got hints of his next project. AI apocalypse🤖
Any projects to be put up for posterity in the cultural museums in south of America
I enjoyed the movie but it had ADHD editing - no time to let scenes breathe. Yet it was still a long movie lol
I honestly thought that midway through but by the end I realized that was the full intention...starting the film out as these shattered memories and loose arrangement of moments and then slowly sharpening the script down to this fine point by the end presented the full spectrum of technique and artistry. Cuz with your logic nothing with quick editing can be referred to as well done. Such as the painstaking craftsmanship of fury road or slumdog or a lot of the Terrence Malick films
Keep in mind he did Memento so he can do movies well in an unconventional way.
It reminds me a lot of Oliver Stone, especially JFK (another masterpiece). I personally love that "action movie but the action is talking" style. There's a ton of ground to cover in Oppenheimer's story and I think the frantic nature of the screenplay and then editing was the right way to go.
i have not a very good answer to this quedtion but the end justifies the means justufied the pearl harbor
As the department of Energy holds many of the secrets regarding UAP/UFO's AND Nukes, I nominate Christopher Nolan as the director who will put that story on film to inform the masses around the world about the Phenomenon. He made all the connections with this film to hit the ground running.
PLEASE ADD A SPOILER WARNING!!!!!
Genius
Did Oppenheimers downfall really start because one guy was so paranoid and insecure?
They seem to talk about Oppenheimer with sense of great reverence. I hope the movie doesn't attempt to make us feel empathy for the "tortured soul" Oppenheimer, or try to glorify him.
His actions directly lead to the literal disintegration of hundreds of thousands of people.
What you can't know, is how much hundreds of thousands of people the atomic bomb has saved
If they were trying to paint a positive portrait of Oppenheimer, they wouldn’t show that he cheated on his wife.
@BigNoseDoggie I didn't know that cause I haven't watched it yet. I just have some reservations on the general sentiments in this movie.
There’s more to it than that. It ushered in a new age for humanity. Deterrence theory has saved us from another world war
@@georgeroberts9162 that’s not a historical fact. The generals confirmed that Japan was about to surrender, and it was not necessary to drop the atomic bombs. The USA committed a terrorist attack on killing majority, innocent Japanese civilians.
They knew this new technology was problematic at the time.
The "fuel" for this "Bomb" killed more than one person just being near it or handling it.
They died in the most awful way possible for a human....
They knew that nothing coming from such a source would be a good thing at the time.
No one was fooled... who didn't fool themselves... 😢😮
Maybe watch the 1960s documentary on this subject. It's better than this movie could possibly ever be.
Simple reason. It was based on the project daily log of activities.
The movie is Nolans masterpiece ...And it did not forget that left wing ideologically driven scientists were responsible for the soviet union getting the bomb and starting the cold war. Glad to see Nolan at least mentioned it.
I am surprised and amazed at the same time that nobody in this debate including the director talked about the origins of Quantum physics which is India which all the Noble laureates are of opinion including Oppenheimer
Oppenheimer is a name you associate with the A-bomb. altho that is not quite the truth.
The pernicious cherry-picking fallacy can either demonize you or deify you. Even a broken clock is ingenious (or perverse) twice a day.
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The movie is weirdly timed to provoke or be a metaphor for conversations around the...explosion...in the power of AI.
The interview went so well until this interviewer compared Oppenheimer to Fauci..I mean, come on now...25:37
Spoken like a Trump supporter who hates Fauci. Chuck Todd was absolutely right to make the comparison. Republicans have been targeting Fauci in order to scare scientists from saying things that contradict what Republicans want the public to believe.
@@BigNoseDog no one cares (democratic or republican), politics is boring compared to the interesting themes of the movie.
Great panel with a horrible moderator. No one wants to hear you interrupt the people there to talk, Chuck. Just an abismal interviewer.
Great discussion and Chuck did a terrific job moderating! What an interesting bunch of people they collected lol
Chuck is a propagandist that tried to propagandize wrongfully bringing up Russia’s invasion of Ukraine when it was the USA that actually started the Ukraine crisis & escalated towards potential Nuclear holocaust.
I thought he was a terrible moderator. He had an agenda to push. He really compared Oppenheimer to Faucci and I'm glad no one on the panel took the bait.
@@ChyeahWill "Agenda" lol. Right-wingers discover people have opinions, colourised, 2023.
Hold on. This can't be real. I just scrolled through 10 or so comments and havent seen a comment about Trump or Biden. Clearly I must be in an alternate universe.
Chuck Todd ruined this with his propaganda.
Fauci is not Oppenheimer..... horribly inaccurate comparison by Chuck Todd
12:00 This is why diversity is a strong positive. Pls tell Tuckums.
What he said literally had nothing to do with diversity in the modern socio-political context.