Author Behind Christopher Nolan’s “Oppenheimer” on the Scientist’s Legacy | Amanpour and Company

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  • Christopher Nolan’s epic film "Oppenheimer" lands in cinemas on Friday. It tells the story of the 1945 “Trinity test” in New Mexico, where the world’s first nuclear device was successfully detonated. The screenplay is based on the Pulitzer Prize-winning biography "American Prometheus," written by Kai Bird and Martin J. Sherwin. Bird speaks with Walter Isaacson about the triumph and tragedy of Robert Oppenheimer.
    Originally aired on July 20, 2023
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  • @behramcooper3691
    @behramcooper3691 10 місяців тому +282

    The Americans did to Oppie what the British did to Alan Turing. Instead of thanking him, Truman called him a cry baby scientist. No good deed goes unpunished.

    • @matthewdowd7889
      @matthewdowd7889 10 місяців тому +24

      The British chemically castrated Turing. Not the same thing

    • @richardthiele8363
      @richardthiele8363 10 місяців тому +13

      I found the story of Alan Turing in “The Imitation Game” to be far more moving emotionally than this movie. It held together much better thematically and I could feel how tragic Turing’s life was. The new Oppenheimer movie chopped his story into bits and pieces, I thought, his love life, his relationship to Teller, the strange scenes where the music crescendoes to atomic intensity, didn’t work for me. I enjoyed Kai Bird’s biography years ago.

    • @killer25318
      @killer25318 10 місяців тому +5

      That’s exactly what I thought

    • @r3b3lvegan89
      @r3b3lvegan89 10 місяців тому +1

      It’s funny…..I could’ve easily assumed as much about this film EVEN DESPITE IT BEING CHRIS NOLAN OF ALL PEOPLE….I knew it would be garbage. Even interstellar was a better film. Wish we could get the quality of the Dark Knight back on the big screen :(

    • @esterhudson5104
      @esterhudson5104 10 місяців тому +2

      Lol. Truman had a legit view. Oppenheimer never had to build it.

  • @ssotkow
    @ssotkow 10 місяців тому +51

    Thank you Kai Bird for such a detailed and engaging biography that took decades to complete. It's a shame Martin Sherwin passed just two years ago. He would've been proud. His co-authored biography becoming a best-seller for the first time ever, and the adapted film becoming a critical and box office success.

  • @doodlemecrzy8075
    @doodlemecrzy8075 10 місяців тому +133

    Such an apt movie for the right time. 3 hrs flew by in an instant. Kudos to Chris Nolan & the cast! Phenomenal piece of work!

    • @utubefreshie
      @utubefreshie 10 місяців тому +5

      I haven't seen the movie. Wasn't sure if I could sit through 3 hours in a theater. But thanks to your comment, I will go see it! Im sure it's brilliant.

    • @Hardiiix
      @Hardiiix 9 місяців тому

      Did you find little boring ? and unnecessarily non linear ?

    • @utubefreshie
      @utubefreshie 9 місяців тому +1

      Coming back to say I just watched the movie. Not boring at all. Very riveting. The script, acting and the musical score were outstanding! A masterpiece by Nolan!

  • @gordonwilson1631
    @gordonwilson1631 10 місяців тому +23

    Oppenheimer wanted to show how destructive atomic weapons are but the US administration wanted to show how powerful they are.

    • @esterhudson5104
      @esterhudson5104 10 місяців тому +2

      Thank God. Or Russia woulda gotten one too. Kudos to National Security.

  • @Ozymandi_as
    @Ozymandi_as 10 місяців тому +186

    When news of the first bomb at Hiroshima reached occupied Singapore, the personnel of the Japanese imperial army who were stationed there took fright and panicked. In the various detention camps scattered across the island, allied prisoners witnessed the extraordinary spectacle of sudden pandemonium in the quarters of their captors of three-and-a-half years, who burst shouting and screaming from every door, and ran straight for the jungle, leaving the compound gates open wide, and their stunned captives free to walk tentatively out of them and wander among the islanders in shared disbelief. Everyone had been aware that the war was going badly for the Japanese, from their dwindling rations of food and water, and the increasingly agitated behaviour of the guards and soldiers, many of whom were psychotic by training. There was a real anxiety that a Japanese withdrawal from the island might be preceded by orders to have them killed - random violence, executions and massacres had always been integral to the warcraft of the Imperial Army, which had a fundamental philosophical contempt for any warrior that surrendered in battle, and generally held the lives of both their military and civilian captives as cheap. Although Japan was a signatory to the Geneva convention, its provisions were routinely flouted by the imperial military establishment, under which countless war crimes were committed. On Singapore, tens of thousands had already died, either from the habitual violence or systemic neglect of the occupiers (and across the Pacific theatre, the fatalities of Japanese aggression were estimated to be in the millions) so the fears were real, and all too well justified. Then all of a sudden, a moment came when the oppressors fled in terror. What of, however, was unclear, as no allied forces appeared on the island until a couple of days later. For all the novel terrors this war of technology and industrial production had produced, no-one living at that time knew or could conceive of a nuclear weapon, let alone be able to imagine the catastrophic destructive power such a device could have. The first reports of it had filled samurai war criminals with existential terror; and after 1200 days of abusive deprivation and coercive fear, their victims were scarcely able believe that their ordeal might be at an end, still less conceive of the cause.
    Liberation could not save the dead, but came just in time for others who were suffering the effects of severe malnutrition and dehydration, tropical diseases that had gone untreated, and the exhaustion of hope. One such prisoner was my father, whose body had wasted to just 90 lbs, and knew from having watched so many of his comrades die that his own death was all but inevitable, until a miracle came just in time to save him. He was very sick, and had to spend three months in a British military hospital in Bombay before he was strong enough for the long sea voyage home.
    He did recover, physically at least. PTSD was one of WW II's major innovations, but it would be some years before neuroscience and psychology were able to name, describe or treat it, and social attitudes towards any kind of mental distress, especially in men, were extremely negative. So many returning servicemen, and others who had survived intense encounters with conflict, experienced lasting distress that they were unable to acknowledge even to themselves, let alone seek diagnosis, treatment or support. The PoWs who returned from the far east were welcomed by their families, but there was little interest or understanding for what they had experienced and survived in wider society. Dad was a courageous and determined man in many ways, but he was also damaged, and never really recovered from his experience. He rarely talked about the war, but I know that he strongly believed that he owed his life to the atom bomb dropped on Hiroshima, and the tens of thousands of deaths it caused. So I've long been aware that I too owe my own existence to the bomb, which is a sobering thing to know. Oppenheimer's story, his achievement at Los Alamos, and his sunbsequent struggles, both with his conscience and the US political and military establishment during the early years of the cold war, have been of interest to me for a long time. He was a complicated man who lived a complicated life. He is a fascinating subject for creative artists, and it's a little surprising that Christopher Nolan is the first film maker to take him on.
    There was a bbc tv series in the 80s that was pretty good if I remember rightly; and in 2005, American composer John Adam wrote an opera about him (an Op-enheim-era perhaps?) which he titled Doctor Atomic, that I liked so much I saw it three times. I look forward to seeing what Nolan and his cast have made of Oppenheimer's extraordinary life.

    • @luannelantz9516
      @luannelantz9516 10 місяців тому +32

      Thank you for sharing. This subject is so multilayered. No easy answer or simple solution.

    • @bv2999
      @bv2999 10 місяців тому +1

      Regarding the "Japs"....All so true.... My uncle was there.

    • @bevbass7083
      @bevbass7083 10 місяців тому +24

      Oh yes indeed, thank you for sharing! Powerful story. The atomic bomb certainly did end the war; no doubt about it. Wouldn't it be music to our ears to hear that that an attack of good common sense had befallen our leaders and that they had put as much effort into making peace, and that the peace were as successful as The Bomb.

    • @DeirdreMcNamara
      @DeirdreMcNamara 10 місяців тому +29

      Thank you for your amazing account...and for the survival of your father and those prisoners, tortured and abused. I have "ear-witnessed" accounts of the treatment of Malaysians by the Imperial Army, and just when it seems humanity reached rock-bottom, statements from survivors that the Chinese were even worse! OH broken humanity! In Britain we recognised PTSD and its ramifications but had a different word: "Shell shock." This covered a multiplicity of aetiologies, but just the two words whispered sotto voce to explain bizarre behavior were enough for us to show extra courtesy and consideration to the person concerned.

    • @richardthelionheart5594
      @richardthelionheart5594 10 місяців тому +14

      Thank you for sharing !!!

  • @robvangessel3766
    @robvangessel3766 10 місяців тому +52

    Side point, to the question these men asked about whether the Bomb would put an end to the world's ability to conduct wars: they could not anticipate the role of profiteers. What Eisenhower came to address in his 1961 "beware the Military-Industrial Complex" speech. War makes big money for contractors, and conscience has no place where greed exists. No better example in America's history than the Iraq War from 2003 to 2011.

    • @pequodexpress
      @pequodexpress 10 місяців тому

      I thought the film would have drawn this out.

    • @kevinjenner9502
      @kevinjenner9502 10 місяців тому

      Eisenhower authorized the CIA’s first Coup, removing Iran’s democratically elected leader Mossadeq, and installing the Shah as an American puppet. (CIA Operation Ajax 1953)…Eisenhower commissioned the CIA’s second Coup of a sovereign government in Guatemala, removing their democratically elected President Jacobo Arbenz. (CIA Operation PBSuccess 1954) Crimes in violation of International Law and the UN Charter.

    • @kevinjenner9502
      @kevinjenner9502 10 місяців тому

      The US invasion of Iraq was declared illegal on Sept 15, 2004 by UN Secretary General Kofi Annan.

    • @grahamfloyd3451
      @grahamfloyd3451 10 місяців тому

      And the US is still incapable of coming to terms with Eisenhower's legacy. A great General, an impactful President but also an actual war criminal from the Oval Office.

    • @richardthelionheart5594
      @richardthelionheart5594 10 місяців тому +6

      Can the US economy continue to thrive nee exist in the absence of gigantic expenditures in war industry. Those budgets are simply $ spent as a necessary (?) "jobs bill". If memory serves some 60% of the US GDP can be directly linked to our various war industries.

  • @jaymacpherson8167
    @jaymacpherson8167 10 місяців тому +64

    The point at 8:25, “we don’t seem to have many scientific gurus around,” which after 9:00 is equated to Oppenheimer’s public humiliation, is a common phenomenon even today. As a scientist, from my perspective the gurus of science are typically ignored out of others’ ignorance, fear, or self enrichment.
    Oppenheimer’s experience is simply one of many examples. For instance, environmental scientists have known since well before the middle 1980s, when I learned the physics, about humanity’s impact on climate change. Only recently, with the growing weather-related tragedies around the world, has a significant portion of humanity begun to acknowledge our contribution to this phenomena. The decades of denial wound my heart.

    • @joncumber2020
      @joncumber2020 10 місяців тому +8

      You are correct. Been following the environmental flags since then myself. Even TIME’s ‘Planet of the Year’ award/ warning in ‘89 was roundly ignored. Like in the movies, we always ignore the advice of the scientist until it’s too late.

    • @otolith5
      @otolith5 10 місяців тому

      Carl Sagan used his platform to call for nuclear disarmament and warned the world of the dangers of nuclear winter. Yet he was denied tenure at Harvard and membership to the National Academy of Sciences discrediting the concept of a public scientist educating the masses about science and its implications.

    • @Vlad65WFPReviews
      @Vlad65WFPReviews 10 місяців тому +8

      The attacks on scientific caution during the peak of Covid totally echoed the moves to silence and discredit Oppenheimer. The "debates" over climate change are sadly the same as well. If one side of the political spectrum doesn't like the message on an issue, it doesn't act to fix things but instead kills the messenger.

    • @doodlemecrzy8075
      @doodlemecrzy8075 10 місяців тому

      Its unfortunate that we have allowed a tool we invented for trade to control our destiny as a species. Capitalism when taken to extremes is no better than a blind religion.

  • @grahamfloyd3451
    @grahamfloyd3451 10 місяців тому +14

    There is no public space for intellectuals. The public wants to be lied to. Fortunately there are venues where they can speak and reach an audience that wants them.

  • @lidarman2
    @lidarman2 10 місяців тому +14

    THat interaction about Nobel Prize is one of the best dialogs in the movie!

  • @kjam1709
    @kjam1709 10 місяців тому +29

    Two of my favorite authors. I wish this was a regular segment!! Kai's written many tour de forces but not as much of the recognition...this should change.

  • @abba3629
    @abba3629 10 місяців тому +9

    Politicians will always berate Intellectuals, especially Scientists!!

  • @willbee6785
    @willbee6785 10 місяців тому +9

    Your dads service will never be forgotten by millions. Our families story is not too different from yours.

  • @gordonwilson1631
    @gordonwilson1631 10 місяців тому +18

    We have let money dictate. “We” meaning the USA with the rest made to follow. President Eisenhower’s warning about the Military-Industrial Complex went unheeded.
    Money has bought democracy so ethics and the common good are ignored.
    Any mention of social concern in the US is labelled Communist.
    This is very difficult for the rest of the World.

  • @kevinjenner9502
    @kevinjenner9502 10 місяців тому +59

    The first film within Japan to address the atomic bombing of Hiroshima was commissioned by the Japanese Teachers Unions. The film, “Children of Hiroshima” was released in 1952 at the end of the American occupation. A somber and poignant film with an underlying message of hope.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 місяців тому +2

      Hope is good. Future wars deterred, also good.

    • @diegoahuerta
      @diegoahuerta 10 місяців тому +6

      The thing about hope is that its a feeling that only the living may enjoy

  • @ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI
    @ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI 10 місяців тому +5

    Amazing book & definitely still worth reading if you've seen the movie.
    Also damn!, Walter Isaacson is doing the interview? I guess he's the right person for the job as he knows a thing or two about Biographies.

  • @laneromel5667
    @laneromel5667 10 місяців тому +24

    What shocked me the most about Oppenheimer, was how unbelievably stupid Truman was.

    • @norwegianblue2764
      @norwegianblue2764 10 місяців тому +3

      It's historical fiction. The caricature of Truman is one of the film's few weak points.

    • @laneromel5667
      @laneromel5667 10 місяців тому +9

      @@norwegianblue2764 No what Truman said really happened, just that Truman did not say these things in front of Oppenheimer.

    • @norwegianblue2764
      @norwegianblue2764 10 місяців тому +2

      @@laneromel5667 I understand that, but context is everything. The film made Truman look like a fool. He was anything but.

    • @njlauren
      @njlauren 10 місяців тому +4

      Truman was Truman, he was a hard head. In a sense he gave Oppenheimer an out when he said he had blood on his hands (Truman) because he ordered it dropped, not Oppenheimer.
      Take it from me, Truman was human, he was a pretty educated man, knew history, but he also had little tolerance for what he saw as namby pambies. Truman said he never regretted dropping those bombs, that is the way he was. He out of anyone had a hard task, he didn't know about the Manhattan project until April, Roosevelt kept him in the dark with most things, so the guy faced the surrender of Germany&dealing with Stalin&the other allies, the war in the Pacific& of course the bomb.

    • @norwegianblue2764
      @norwegianblue2764 10 місяців тому +1

      @@njlauren Well said.

  • @michaelboguski4743
    @michaelboguski4743 9 місяців тому +1

    Professor Chomsky has been warning us for decades...
    I hope I leave this life before the Weapons are used again.
    Thank You Professor Chomsky!

  • @user-pi1vd7lc7k
    @user-pi1vd7lc7k 10 місяців тому +14

    Agree with Nigel re: dropping the bomb did save lives in the short term-on both sides. But this "winning the war" has actually been dwarfed by the larger "war" between the forces of peace and the forces of violence, chaos, and authoritarianism that could still use nuclear weapons to destroy our world.

    • @aimwilliamson6609
      @aimwilliamson6609 10 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely Agree 👍🏻

    • @worldwithoutwar8622
      @worldwithoutwar8622 10 місяців тому +4

      Yes! No war is actually won! Once humans decide to sort out differences by means of war, humanity has lost already!

    • @TavaraTheLaughingLion
      @TavaraTheLaughingLion 10 місяців тому +4

      Dropping a bomb on innocence is not "winning a war" per say. I don't know what u would call it, but it doesn't sound like winning to me.

    • @diegoahuerta
      @diegoahuerta 10 місяців тому +4

      My friend your are unequivocally wrong. At the time General Eisenhower, we now know, said the bomb wasn't necessary because at that time the Germans had already surrendered and the japanese would soon follow. So no, dropping the bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was not necessary. That's what they say to justify the murder and destruction of two cities and it's inhabitants who where almost all civilians

    • @njlauren
      @njlauren 10 місяців тому +3

      If you actually read the history of the 2nd world war you wouldn't say that about the atomic bomb and Japan.
      Put it this way, Hirohito wasn't the flower loving, haiku writing nerd in glasses that he was portrayed as. Hirohito made Tojo PM bc he felt the prior PM was too soft ( this after a track record that made the Germans seem nice). When they went to drop the A bomb, they had trouble finding a target big enough...why? Bc most Japanese cities had been levelled or burned, Le May was literally incinerating cities every night. A million civilians had died by that point, and no surrender.
      I have also heard it was the USSR declaring war that did it. But thing is, once Germany was defeated the threat of the USSR was there for almost three months, Stalin had promised to declare war once Europe was done...no surrender.
      There was a plot to pull a kamikaze attack on the Missouri during the surrender, Hirohito had to make a broadcast and his brother personally meeting w the ppl plotting it to stop it.
      Stalin declared war after Hiroshima,when he knew Japan would likely surrender, so no that didn't do it. Japan didn't surrender when they declared war, they surrendered a week after Nagasaki.
      Want further proof what it is like invading a defeated country? Read about what the fighting was like in Europe after D day. The German military knew they had lost by 1943, but the fighting was brutal. When they hit Germany they were taking huge casualties until the end. Japan because of its topology , all the islands, would make it much worse. If they invaded it would have been a million allied casualties and likely several million japanese.

  • @hctim96
    @hctim96 10 місяців тому +9

    War is a racket...

  • @robvangessel3766
    @robvangessel3766 10 місяців тому +9

    Great discussion. And a vital one to continue. I'm really anxious to see Christopher Nolan's film, and I want to get the Kai Bird-Martin J. Sherwin book.

  • @marsspacex6065
    @marsspacex6065 10 місяців тому +8

    Great conversation.

  • @annmarieknapp2480
    @annmarieknapp2480 10 місяців тому +4

    I need to read the book. I do think AI is as important today as Bomb was in 40s. Nuclear weapons scare hell out of me.

    • @amandajrmoore3216
      @amandajrmoore3216 10 місяців тому

      Read the book it is brilliant and very relevant.

  • @szehui9841
    @szehui9841 10 місяців тому +3

    It is a great movie, everyone who love physics and history should watch it. Before watching the movie, I knew nothing about Robert Oppenheimer. I really like to read the book.

    • @craigleadley2472
      @craigleadley2472 10 місяців тому +3

      I'm half way through the book - it's brilliant. Read it!

  • @eblackSTL
    @eblackSTL 10 місяців тому +11

    Back to the future. May we learn from our past in order to create a more inclusive and equitable present and tomorrow.

    • @robvangessel3766
      @robvangessel3766 10 місяців тому

      It doesn't happen enough.

    • @billj4525
      @billj4525 10 місяців тому

      @@robvangessel3766 Probably never will

  • @3321far
    @3321far 10 місяців тому +19

    The quote from the movie that struck me was the lawyer asking Oppie if he had moral qualms about dropping a hydrogen bomb on Hiroshima. Oppie replied he did, and that Hiroshima wasn't a BIG enough target. A city of 1.1M people, was not BIG enough. The only two suitable targets were Tokyo or Osaka which would have killed 7M (including the Emperor) or 5M people respectively. Of course he had moral qualms about the "Super". We ALL should.

    • @manuelkong10
      @manuelkong10 10 місяців тому

      a man looking for BIGGER targets in order to KILL more children is NOT a man with "moral qualms"....he supported dropping the bombs till the day he died
      he's a nightmare of a human being

  • @smithaz1981
    @smithaz1981 10 місяців тому +3

    I don't think groves gets enough credit the pentagon and the a bomb were both a plus projects

  • @edwardrolenc7012
    @edwardrolenc7012 10 місяців тому +2

    Fantastic book. Everyone should read it and dwell on what you will learn.

  • @beckymiller5907
    @beckymiller5907 10 місяців тому +27

    The tech geeks who are developing AI and other robotic technologies are NOT 'polymaths'...are probably woefully undereducated in the humanities, and incapable of the thought experiments that could foresee consequences on humanity.

    • @sitanshurai892
      @sitanshurai892 10 місяців тому +2

      You can’t say that. The people who are really good in AI are on par or better than those polymath physicists. They really understand information theory which Arguably, is even a more fundamental framework for understanding how our universe works than Physics.

    • @eduardohope4909
      @eduardohope4909 10 місяців тому

      @@sitanshurai892: No, Information Theory is NOT an "even more fundamental framework for understanding how our universe works than physics." It is COMPLEMENTARY with Physics. The one cannot work without the other; there is what we call 'matter' and what we call 'energy', and what we acknowledge as 'interactions' and 'transformations', and it is all physics and the information that allows us to recognize, understand, acknowledge, and intentionally interact with (or manipulate, as in splitting atoms) the physics.

    • @LadyBug1967
      @LadyBug1967 10 місяців тому

      Sitan there is such a thing as a Renaissance polymath which Oppenheimer was--a man who knew French poetry & Eastern philosophers, including the Baba Gita, which would NOT be a description you could give to any contemporary scientist that I have ever heard of. This is what Kai was speaking of and making reference to.

  • @alittleofeverything4190
    @alittleofeverything4190 10 місяців тому +4

    Honestly how could Oppenheimer be the most unlikely choice if he must have been one of the few scientists to even be capable of doing it. 3:49

    • @iseolake
      @iseolake 10 місяців тому +10

      In retrospect. Most of the physicists who knew him at the time, knew that he had never administered anything in his career, not a department, not a research group. You can hear some of the reactions of his peers in a BBC documentary on Oppenheimer. It was only after he had shown what that he could do it, that his peers realized that it was a genius choice. ("The Trials of Oppenheimer," BBC History)

    • @alittleofeverything4190
      @alittleofeverything4190 10 місяців тому +1

      @@iseolake thanks

  • @emiliog.4432
    @emiliog.4432 10 місяців тому +3

    Why is this hardcover book so hard to find and so expensive when available??

  • @kevinjenner9502
    @kevinjenner9502 8 місяців тому

    7 of our 8 5 star Army and Naval officers are on record in 1945 stating the atomic bombs were militarily unnecessary, morally reprehensible, or both…Generals Dwight Eisenhower, Douglas MacArthur, Henry “Hap” Arnold, and Admirals William Leahy, Chester Nimitz, Earnest King, and William Halsey.

  • @rohanmarkjay
    @rohanmarkjay 10 місяців тому +7

    If there is one good thing this movie has done is reignite debate among human at a deep level about nuclear weopons and hopefully like in the 1980s mass protest eventually puts pressure on the political establishment like it did with Reagan and Campaign for nucelar disarmament protests in United States and Europe regular million plus marches were common occurrence back then and one day Reagan started agreeing with the protesters and everything changed also another Hollywood also swayed his opinion I do not now if its true called Wargames. Where the message of the movie was the only winning move was not to play the wargame. Apparently being a Hollywood movies nut being once an actor in Hollywodd himself this movie had a profound impact on Reagan and he started to support the Protesters privately and in 1985 he initiated talks with the Russians. As far as I know only John F Kennedy and Ronald Reagan and maybe Richard Nixon as well were the only American Presidents who finally came around to Oppenheimers way of thinking regarding nuclear weopons after initially being warhawks finally came around the the idea that nuclear arms reductions and eventually total abolishment and must be agreed upon and acted upon and we saw that come to fruition in the 1970s with Nixon and Breznev and then Reagan and Gorbachev in the 1980s.

  • @nicholasschroeder3678
    @nicholasschroeder3678 10 місяців тому +7

    Teller was the guy who really crucified him

    • @murdo_mck
      @murdo_mck 10 місяців тому

      Teller wanted to use the bomb ASAP to destroy the Soviet Union while the USA still had an "advantage", a strategy Craven calls Nuclear Utilisation of Tactical Systems. Fortunately saner minds prevailed and we got Mutually Assured Destruction. That scene in Dr Strangelove is not fiction.

    • @otolith5
      @otolith5 10 місяців тому

      Because he favored an even more monstrous weapon of true mass destruction

  • @danwallach8826
    @danwallach8826 10 місяців тому +5

    The subtitle of Mary Shelley's "Frankensetin" is "The Modern Prometheus."
    Written in, what, 1808?

  • @henryrichards1556
    @henryrichards1556 10 місяців тому +1

    That was cheery

  • @clay1528
    @clay1528 9 місяців тому

    Kai Ford reference to the threat Oppenheimer posed to military budgets, which was why he was attacked and humiliated, is what President Eisenhower was later warning about in his Presidential Farewell Address in warning against the corrupting affects of the burgeoning “Military-Industrial Complex.”

  • @mp7161
    @mp7161 10 місяців тому +1

    As other commenters responded, the use of atomic bombs on cities wasn't necessary. First, Japan was willing to surrender if they would allow to keep the emperor. Second, if they really wanted to intimidate the enemies and show the capability of the weapon, it could have been used in an non-urban area, where none, or fewer, people would have been affected.

  • @markcook3570
    @markcook3570 10 місяців тому +2

    Trying to get caught up on this before I see the movie...

  • @Bioinspiredforum
    @Bioinspiredforum 10 місяців тому

    Curious about how the Manhattan project influenced future collaboration between science and industry in the US. Anyone that has some input about this?
    One dimension of the project that I find interesting is how they managed (or tried) to stage an interplay between two completely different cultures for information exchange. One governed by security clearence, another one by the ability to grasp compleixity and add value. We try to set up data sharing in multi-stakeholder ecosystems, and it is quite tricky.

  • @user-mm7no4cx1y
    @user-mm7no4cx1y 10 місяців тому +4

    I do not know what year you won the Pulitzer Prize for the book...The question I have is how much different information is included or clarified from the 1980 BBC series " Oppenheimer" starring Sam Waterston? How did the BBC series discover all of the information/sequences that it shared and having seen the new film " Oppenheimer" how is it really any different or substantially different then the 7 hour mini-series shown in 1980?

  • @realnfnkalyan
    @realnfnkalyan 10 місяців тому +1

    rip martin sherwin.

  • @markantrobus8782
    @markantrobus8782 10 місяців тому +3

    1914-1918 The First World War: "the war to end all wars." It will be over in 2 weeks, they also said. Geo Bush II and Obama both said "war is ultimately about peace."

  • @64tubebaby
    @64tubebaby 10 місяців тому

    "It [the Nuclear Age] still could end badly." That would have to be the silliest, most understated opinion ever! Absent complete and total global nuclear disarmament, "badly" is the ONLY way the Nuclear Age will end. The only real hope is that the Nuclear Age will NEVER end.

  • @njlauren
    @njlauren 10 місяців тому +1

    The opening of this is screwed up. Oppemheimer is not about the msnhattan project, it us about Oppenheimer the man. I

  • @jacquesmostert3942
    @jacquesmostert3942 10 місяців тому +2

    Even South Africa developed nuclear weapons. Then again we also conducted the first heart transplant…

  • @NoraGermain
    @NoraGermain 10 місяців тому

    Aside from the mispronunciation of “nuclear” meaning “of the nucleas” (there’s no such thing as a nuke-you-lus)… it was a great conversation.

  • @buskman3286
    @buskman3286 10 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for pronouncing "Nuclear" correctly! :)
    It seems to be a lost art! :(

    • @brianlaughlin8974
      @brianlaughlin8974 10 місяців тому +5

      Sounds to me like Mr. Bird says "newc-ya-ler" which is not the correct pronunciation. The work is correctly pronounced "new-clee-ur."

  • @abba3629
    @abba3629 10 місяців тому +1

    A Genius.👍

  • @diliproy6455
    @diliproy6455 10 місяців тому

    The real authority is Martin Sherwin while Kai is just a sidekick

  • @laviefu0630
    @laviefu0630 10 місяців тому +7

    Though his nickname “Oppie” has been brought up several times in the film, top scientist, advocate & martyr are the titles what we lay people suppose to know him, unlike what he call himself as a “death, destroyer of the world”, “American Prometheus” definitely is he, but thanks to Gary Oldman’s US President Truman who’s proactively seized the title of destroyer.

  • @randallgregerson4761
    @randallgregerson4761 10 місяців тому +4

    I am in full agreement about this scene. When I explain to people the reason why Nagasaki and Hiroshima aren't shown in the film, this is the scene that is the metaphorical understanding of the bomb's effects. The film isn't about who used the bomb or where. Oppenheimer wasn't physically there when the bomb was dropped and the movie is Oppenheimer.

  • @davesuiter
    @davesuiter 10 місяців тому

    Oppenheimer: One last thing; remember the movie The Producers (aka Springtime For Hitler), where Mel Brooks and Gene Wilder intentionally make a bad movie to cash in on an insurance loss policy. It seems we have a copycat here. The dialogue is almost not existent due to the loud, overwhelming, spastic violins and cellos. If you didn't observe this, then you are deaf or didn't see the movie. This movie might get an 8 if muted and using closed captions. Historically it was correct and the acting was excellent.

  • @eastcoastsailingcenter7768
    @eastcoastsailingcenter7768 10 місяців тому +1

    Didn’t America pulled out of the nuclear controls agreement with Russia . Also in the war on terror , there all this talk about small nukes .

  • @brian5154
    @brian5154 10 місяців тому +1

    Many of the scientists involved were European born and educated. Very much an international effort, as was the film, mainly British I think....

  • @skillinwoodard
    @skillinwoodard 6 місяців тому

    You should make another one with turtle or another family

  • @david-joeklotz9558
    @david-joeklotz9558 10 місяців тому +1

    I disagree Oppenheimer should be called ‘the father etc’. He managed the project but Oppenheimer had no direct discovery as far as nuclear fission and the mechanics concerned

  • @gerald02121
    @gerald02121 9 місяців тому

    Why do so many people struggle to pronounce nuclear instead of "nuc-u-lar"

  • @james-pierre7634
    @james-pierre7634 10 місяців тому

    Why was this topic even taken as a movie subject in the first place?

  • @nanobots3336
    @nanobots3336 10 місяців тому +1

    I stopped watching at min 19, I´ll come back after watching the movie

  • @TheYoga1212
    @TheYoga1212 10 місяців тому

    Truman such a badman

  • @PrinceDepecheMode
    @PrinceDepecheMode 10 місяців тому +2

    ????? Main supporting character played by Emily Blunt .,....not Florence Pugh...

  • @leviashanken2506
    @leviashanken2506 10 місяців тому +1

    I dont get how Oppenheimer was a threat to the 'nation's budget' simply by disagreeing with spending more on the hydrogen bomb.

    • @5180TMZpotluck
      @5180TMZpotluck 10 місяців тому +1

      Because the communists around him
      He had involved too many ex-communists in his life and at that time that is enough to be flagged as suspicious subject

    • @phoenixrising8231
      @phoenixrising8231 10 місяців тому +1

      He was revered by the public and other scientists.

    • @nicholasschroeder3678
      @nicholasschroeder3678 10 місяців тому +3

      Edward Teller had a hard on for developing the H bomb--the super and his baby-- Oppneheimer's rhetorical misgivings stood in his way; therefore, he had to be eliminated.

  • @markantrobus8782
    @markantrobus8782 10 місяців тому +1

    Talk about nuclear power stations ready to melt and explode, ticking time bombs.

  • @dolinaj1
    @dolinaj1 10 місяців тому +8

    They are absolutely capable of calculating the future with AI, but late capitalism worships monetization above all else.

  • @reneekad
    @reneekad 10 місяців тому

    Glad all involved seem to be aware of my mood. My situation is disgusting.

  • @diliproy6455
    @diliproy6455 10 місяців тому

    The real authority is Martin Sherwin while Kai is just sidestepping

  • @squamish4244
    @squamish4244 10 місяців тому

    As soon as I heard about this film, I knew people would use it as a metaphor for AI. Hee hee.
    I also think nukes should be dismantled. Yes, we could build them again at any time, but dismantling them would substantially reduce the risk of a war because everyone wouldn't be on hair-trigger alert. The biggest danger moments for nuclear war in the last 80 years have been ones of rapid escalation, where everyone was instantly ready to fire the weapons. If they were dismantled, we would at least have some breathing room and wouldn't have to worry about that anymore.

  • @shirleyashanti3031
    @shirleyashanti3031 10 місяців тому

    Scripture says man WILL destroy himself. Look around. We're on our way.

  • @noneofurbusiness5223
    @noneofurbusiness5223 10 місяців тому

    @ 13.18
    Not just Putin, but N. Korea.

  • @schmoab
    @schmoab 10 місяців тому +2

    We’re on such a knife’s edge right now in this conflict with Russia. I know Zelenskyy is just advocating for his country, but some of the demands that they make seem to be from a world where the bomb tied to ICBMs doesn’t exist. In the end, the bomb has and should make us a more peaceful species.

  • @witherbossbros1157
    @witherbossbros1157 10 місяців тому +11

    It's "nuclear," not "nukular."

    • @joanyoon4672
      @joanyoon4672 10 місяців тому

      Maybe he was more like an editor. The other author passed away, and he was the one who authored many books.

    • @grahamfloyd3451
      @grahamfloyd3451 10 місяців тому +4

      It's a colloquial pronunciation. You're neither smart enough nor educated enough to try and wield that as some kind of insult.

    • @joanyoon4672
      @joanyoon4672 10 місяців тому

      @@grahamfloyd3451 that is true. I am just not that impressed by his responses, and his body language reflects that. In his book he wrote, Oppenheimer had some serious mental illness. I think more credits should go to the other scientists. Oppenheimer was good at creating the social structure of Manhattan project and keep maintaining the collaborative atmosphere amongst the scientists. This is where General Groves came in who intuitively knew that about Oppenheimer.

    • @jonathandavis9507
      @jonathandavis9507 10 місяців тому

      It’s “nutulear”

    • @vapixel
      @vapixel 10 місяців тому

      You say ‘tomahto’ and I say ‘tomato’ - Let’s call thing off!!

  • @norankpost2
    @norankpost2 9 місяців тому

    See democracy now on the bomb and Oppenheimer. And the fact that dropping the bomb on Hiroshima was unnecessary and the second bomb on Nagasaki was a crime.

  • @TheYoga1212
    @TheYoga1212 10 місяців тому

    Ind vs pak no new nuke war both countries progress towards good things

  • @james-pierre7634
    @james-pierre7634 10 місяців тому

    Why doesn’t the film present those issues. But instead the movie gives the audience a Hollywood perspective of klitch.

  • @reneekad
    @reneekad 10 місяців тому +1

    I’d love to meet ppl in real life in real settings after they rehab me and get me away from this chaos

  • @sandraminer301
    @sandraminer301 10 місяців тому

    It would behove "US" to make sure Saudi Arabia is not building and Atomic or Hydrogen Bomb for the $2B they paid Kerschner.

  • @davidmacleod9313
    @davidmacleod9313 10 місяців тому

    RADIATION…RADIATION…RADIATION…RADIATION…RADIATION…RADIATION.😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @laurellussen3512
    @laurellussen3512 10 місяців тому +4

    Good points made; we seem to have become inured to the oppression inherent in this Capitalism - gone to seed the Banana Republic we now function in. no accident.

    • @marcotuliosanchez3958
      @marcotuliosanchez3958 10 місяців тому

      The U.S.A. has not become a "Banana Republic" ( a racist term usually applied to Central American Countries plundered by the capitalist corporation The United Fruit Company). By dropping weapons of mass destruction (two atomic bombs), one on Hiroshima and the other on Nagasaki, killing thousands of civilians, the U.S.A. became a terrorist state, now a decaying empire.

  • @banyarling
    @banyarling 10 місяців тому +1

    Love Florence Pugh, but she hardly deserves top billing besides Murphy in the intro here.

  • @reneekad
    @reneekad 10 місяців тому

    Less fiction and more reality so I can move on is essential

  • @skillinwoodard
    @skillinwoodard 6 місяців тому

    Please do a different family 🥺

  • @mikekaupa2949
    @mikekaupa2949 10 місяців тому

    he says, "nucular"

  • @ttrons2
    @ttrons2 10 місяців тому

    It will be the Us not Putin for first use.

  • @reneekad
    @reneekad 10 місяців тому

    At least they limited my options to ppl with degrees. That was a necessary shift.

  • @paulkindlon5496
    @paulkindlon5496 10 місяців тому

    The Soviets got the bomb, not the Russians. There is a difference kids

  • @daveg5857
    @daveg5857 10 місяців тому +2

    It's new-clee-er, not new-cue-ler! Why can so few people pronounce this simple word?!

  • @shivakumarthippani
    @shivakumarthippani 10 місяців тому

    You need not worry about India using nuclear weapons because India is a responsible country unlike the USA, Pakistan and Russia. India also has not to strike the first policy.

  • @reneekad
    @reneekad 10 місяців тому

    Let’s see if all the brilliant ppl involved in this can figure smthg out that works for me bc this doesn’t.

  • @shannonbloom4133
    @shannonbloom4133 10 місяців тому +24

    The US does not possess a humane society.

    • @jons4418
      @jons4418 10 місяців тому +1

      Riiiight

    • @ndeamonk24
      @ndeamonk24 10 місяців тому +2

      This is true

    • @jons4418
      @jons4418 10 місяців тому +2

      @@ndeamonk24 if that is true no country possesses a humane society.

    • @jons4418
      @jons4418 10 місяців тому +2

      @@ndeamonk24 Like every other country in the world, the US government has flaws, but more than in most there are people with influence that strive to mitigate those flaws.

    • @ndeamonk24
      @ndeamonk24 10 місяців тому

      @@jons4418 ok. And.....

  • @reneekad
    @reneekad 10 місяців тому

    The idea that if they know who I’m attracted to I lose bc they will use my situation and I have no choice was very 2013-2023. Not now!

  • @OMEGALFA.
    @OMEGALFA. 10 місяців тому +3

    7:37 NEWCULAR??!! How in the world can the author of a book on Oppenheimer NOT KNOW how to properly pronounce the word NUCLEAR.

    • @IKARUSBLOODYWINGS
      @IKARUSBLOODYWINGS 10 місяців тому +3

      Anyone can make mistakes. Are you really going to be so picky as to stick just with that and not to the main message that he is sharing with us ?

    • @OMEGALFA.
      @OMEGALFA. 10 місяців тому

      @@IKARUSBLOODYWINGS Yeah, LANGUAGE and PROPER PRONUNCIATION are picky, picky, picky little things. If you you don't agree go ahead and speak like an ignoramus. THE MEDIUM IS THE MESSAGE!

    • @IKARUSBLOODYWINGS
      @IKARUSBLOODYWINGS 10 місяців тому

      @alphaomega4159 Yeah, I'll learn from you. I'm sure you have never ever mispronounced a word in your entire life, oh great language master 🖐🤚

  • @johnballantyne3231
    @johnballantyne3231 10 місяців тому +4

    America did to Oppenheimer what they will eventually do to Dr. Fauci.

  • @triluna0
    @triluna0 10 місяців тому +2

    Nolan’s film did not make clear why Oppenheimer was castigated publicly! It made it seem like it was only about the ‘red scare’ of communism! Not his urgent pleas for peace!

  • @reneekad
    @reneekad 10 місяців тому

    A bunch of men took off with my life to get ahead and appeal to ppl who think they did it on their own

  • @reneekad
    @reneekad 10 місяців тому

    They don’t need me but I’m glad it’s not lost on all of them how I could have done anything else the last decade and a bunch of my time was wasted bc Eminem ppl who don’t know what it takes to get a degree. And that needs to be resolved so they get there’s no competition

  • @tatuloa
    @tatuloa 10 місяців тому

    OPPIE might have been the administrator of the Bomb engineering , but It was DU PONT who delivered the thing .. Du Pont have been making chemical explosive / gun Powder ect .. since Lafayette recommended them ... The Brits really lost that punch up , because the colonists made their own KABOOM ...

  • @rosshalper6708
    @rosshalper6708 10 місяців тому

    The man who wrote the book says “nucular”!

  • @reneekad
    @reneekad 10 місяців тому

    Is

  • @reneekad
    @reneekad 10 місяців тому

    Can’t wait to see how much money was generated and who it went to the last forty years on my existence.

  • @annchaloupka4132
    @annchaloupka4132 10 місяців тому

    I debated seeing this movie........I have friends from that area and her son recently died YOUNG there from exposure... I hear the movie does NOT address what the bomb did to New Mexico residents......I decided NOT to see the movie ......rather honor my friends and their loss from relatives working there......the movie should have honored local americans who died (and are STILL dying) at that toxic spot on american soil......c'est la vie