This was SO nice and clear to understand!!! Now I feel confident about using these two new features. There's a lot of good info here. I wish you had showed the boost gauge there instead of MPG... Who cares about MPG while you're trying to show boost build up lol. Really love the sound clips too, ya'll had everything
Really glad to hear that you enjoyed it! Sorry about the boost gauge, that is something I probably should have changed. This car makes about 20psi peak boost. Thanks for the comment!
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 Because of this video I'm able to launch my car so perfectly at autocross and it really makes a huge difference!!! Puts a smile on everyone's faces.
Just got back from flat foot shifting my 2023 WRX with help from this vid. At first i wasn't letting the clutch out fast enough and it was doing some weird little grab when the clutch was fully out from not letting it out fast enough. That scared the poop outta me, but I started kicking the clutch faster and seems good! Side note... My OTS tune from another company now makes 18psi instead of 17psi after this update. Wondering if anyone else noticed their boost go up while flat foot shifting.
Glad the video was helpful! The FFS feature should not really increase the boost but you make see a split second where it spikes a little higher than normal.
I’m on the fence about tuning my vb . At the moment I’m more that satisfied with the stock performance . You have demonstrated launch control and flat foot shifting clearly removing my previous thoughts on damaging the drive train . At the end of the day like always that will depend on the driver not abusing this function as you described side stepping the clutch. Thank you from down under and keep up the great content.
Hey all, leaving my anecdotal experience here. I compete scca autocross in my fbo va chassis, and hard launched my car 30+ times a month on 200tw for a year, without any issues. Sure enough, pretty much opening competition for the next year, broke something on trial run number 1 😅. I suspect it was the center diff, but I haven't dropped the Trans yet to verify anything. Be safe out there subie brethren.
Thank you for the comment! I can't speak for what exactly Subaru would ask for or require in a warranty situation, but I can say this: With the Accessport, you can always uninstall it.
This video alone make me want to go with you for my protune. Without too much details im pretty frustrated with my current tuner trying to get an upgraded map because new bolt ons. Terrible communication from him and frustrating no answers so i may have to reach out if i don't get a response or something.
I originally thought for FFS, you’re supposed to put the RPMs at the peak of your redline so it bounces off the limiter at WOT? And then when you clutch in, your revs drop down and picks right back up at WOT and carries boost. If you look at all the vids on UA-cam, everyone’s got it set to hold the revs at their redline or closer to 7k rpm. Same with all the info back on NASIOC. Lots of folks recommend 6500-7000. Have we all been doing it incorrectly this whole time lol?? Edit: I’m an idiot and so are all the other guys on UA-cam. Your method is the correct way 🔥🙏🙌. The high rpm setups are just for the sound and aesthetic at the cost of being way harsher on the drivetrain lol
Sounds like you figured out the difference between the two. Setting it to redline is pretty much just not using FFS and is what we call “power shifting” 😅
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 haha thanks! Now I know why everyone is destroying their trans. I’m retuning my car next week and going to ask for the launch and ffs features. I’m prepared if things do blow up as I have a 19 STI trans on standby. Wonder how it’ll do with my ETS turbo kit! 🙌🤞 Thanks again for the vid. Was super helpful!!
I did this once at 5400 RPM and it went well. I then tried it once more about three minutes later and she went into LIMP MODE immediately after letting go of the clutch. I’m guessing my RPMs were too high? This is what I was set at on my 21 STI. I also had an ACT setup for clutch kit. Thoughts? It sounded like a loud whistle before limping mode. Pulled over immediately and turned off car and let rest for five minutes. She stared back up fine afterwards. The CEL codes were still there of course but have since disappeared after some normal driving for some time.
This is great news. Thanks for the vid! Oh in the drag racing world we have something called a Two Step that kinda does that same thing with older cars without an ECU.
Similiar to the 15-21 WRX 6 speeds- Surprisingly weel depending on how you use it. The issue is these FA24s can make ALOT of torque, which is what does the damage. My bet is that STI trans swaps are going to become very popular.
Best result is to actually semi ride the clutch out as your coming off …. To slow of modulation, you smell it… you’ll know your sweet spot because you’ll feel like you rode the clutch, but if there’s no smell, you didn’t.
Why could I do burn outs with my 98 eclipse on a regular basis and it didn’t need a new clutch. I literally sold my eclipse with 104k miles wrecked and it never needed a clutch, my 22 wrx’s clutch started slipping at 5-6k miles. It may have been a bad pressure plate or spring but it wasn’t even tuned or modified
Hi, This launch is safe for stock 22wrx Or its safer with a tune? I mean changing the gear with flat foot on gas, i never tried this kind of shifting, really cool man
It would be just as "Safe" on the stock power level (if not safer due to less stress on everything) than with a tuned car, but you must have a COBB tune to utilize it. Thank you for the comment!
no, I'm 97% sure it's set as soon as you select it and can be left alone just like a realtime tune (which is a tune that requires no flashing of the ecu)
Is it possible to just use cobb ap and order a tune that keeps everything stock but allows me to flat foot shift and launch control? I want to keep my warranty in tact so i dont want to tune my car just yet but would love to have these features.
So I might get some flack for this, but FFS, and launch control is cool but to complete this puzzle couldn’t we get rev matching too? I know, I know… you can do it without programming… but more and more car are coming factory with it on there more “driver” oriented cars and it’d be nice to get the option. Just a thought don’t kill me.
I’ve been driving manual transmissions for the last 32 years. I can rev much with my eyes closed eating a cheeseburger with a side of fries while sipping a Coke holding up the steering wheel with my knee…I drove my friends FL5 Civic Type R with a rev match on and it’s a really cool feature. I wouldn’t mind having it my own car.
Awesome video! We have a Facebook track oriented group. Would you be interested in working with me to develop a track oriented tune and maybe offer some sort of tuning package to the group?
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 got it. So i learned from your demonstration that if i set FFS at 4800 i can still keep my foot down on accelerator if i say shift at 6000 rpm right? I always thought you needed to set the FFS at the highest rpm you wanna shift at
Thank you for making this video. Can launch control work on the CVT? I would love to see a video covering this if ur willing to make it. Love from Jamaica 🇯🇲 ❤
You might be trolling but let’s discuss anyway! Calling a car slow is all relative. Based on your content uploads I can imagine being a gamer you are used to unrealistic expectations (total assumptions btw so forgive me). In the real world this red car has ran a 12.63 @ 110mph without launch control or FFS when it was making about 30hp less. Is it “fast”? Not really. We build 7 sec GTRs at our shop. But it’s not slow by any means. This car is still fun to drive and many would agree!
Thank you for your insight! Still a very popular and capable platform. I was going to check out your content and see what you like but I noticed you don’t have any.
This was SO nice and clear to understand!!! Now I feel confident about using these two new features. There's a lot of good info here. I wish you had showed the boost gauge there instead of MPG... Who cares about MPG while you're trying to show boost build up lol. Really love the sound
clips too, ya'll had everything
Really glad to hear that you enjoyed it! Sorry about the boost gauge, that is something I probably should have changed. This car makes about 20psi peak boost. Thanks for the comment!
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 Because of this video I'm able to launch my car so perfectly at autocross and it really makes a huge difference!!! Puts a smile on everyone's faces.
Just got back from flat foot shifting my 2023 WRX with help from this vid. At first i wasn't letting the clutch out fast enough and it was doing some weird little grab when the clutch was fully out from not letting it out fast enough. That scared the poop outta me, but I started kicking the clutch faster and seems good!
Side note... My OTS tune from another company now makes 18psi instead of 17psi after this update. Wondering if anyone else noticed their boost go up while flat foot shifting.
Glad the video was helpful! The FFS feature should not really increase the boost but you make see a split second where it spikes a little higher than normal.
I’m on the fence about tuning my vb . At the moment I’m more that satisfied with the stock performance . You have demonstrated launch control and flat foot shifting clearly removing my previous thoughts on damaging the drive train . At the end of the day like always that will depend on the driver not abusing this function as you described side stepping the clutch. Thank you from down under and keep up the great content.
Super helpful walkthrough of everything. Ready to go out and do some controlled damage!
Glad you found it helpful!! Good luck!
Hey all, leaving my anecdotal experience here. I compete scca autocross in my fbo va chassis, and hard launched my car 30+ times a month on 200tw for a year, without any issues. Sure enough, pretty much opening competition for the next year, broke something on trial run number 1 😅. I suspect it was the center diff, but I haven't dropped the Trans yet to verify anything. Be safe out there subie brethren.
Perfect demonstration. You guys running any drivetrain bushings/pitch stop mount on the shop car?
100% stock driveline; however, we are looking into pitch stop designs.
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 look into JXB performance for a driveshaft carrier as well.
instructions unclear, my transmission fell out of the car
lol you trolling
Thanks, this definitely answered some questions I had about FFS
Thank you for watching glad it helped!
good video, very well spoken.
Will be ordering soon.
Looking forward to it!
Good video thanks. I have a 2024 still under warranty can I switch back to the factory tune for warranty issues ? Thanks.
Thank you for the comment! I can't speak for what exactly Subaru would ask for or require in a warranty situation, but I can say this: With the Accessport, you can always uninstall it.
thanks for the info
This video alone make me want to go with you for my protune. Without too much details im pretty frustrated with my current tuner trying to get an upgraded map because new bolt ons. Terrible communication from him and frustrating no answers so i may have to reach out if i don't get a response or something.
Thanks video I've been waiting for since the announcement very informative an helpful as always
Thank you for watching glad it helped!
I originally thought for FFS, you’re supposed to put the RPMs at the peak of your redline so it bounces off the limiter at WOT? And then when you clutch in, your revs drop down and picks right back up at WOT and carries boost.
If you look at all the vids on UA-cam, everyone’s got it set to hold the revs at their redline or closer to 7k rpm. Same with all the info back on NASIOC. Lots of folks recommend 6500-7000.
Have we all been doing it incorrectly this whole time lol??
Edit: I’m an idiot and so are all the other guys on UA-cam. Your method is the correct way 🔥🙏🙌. The high rpm setups are just for the sound and aesthetic at the cost of being way harsher on the drivetrain lol
Sounds like you figured out the difference between the two. Setting it to redline is pretty much just not using FFS and is what we call “power shifting” 😅
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 haha thanks! Now I know why everyone is destroying their trans. I’m retuning my car next week and going to ask for the launch and ffs features.
I’m prepared if things do blow up as I have a 19 STI trans on standby. Wonder how it’ll do with my ETS turbo kit! 🙌🤞
Thanks again for the vid. Was super helpful!!
I did this once at 5400 RPM and it went well. I then tried it once more about three minutes later and she went into LIMP MODE immediately after letting go of the clutch. I’m guessing my RPMs were too high? This is what I was set at on my 21 STI. I also had an ACT setup for clutch kit. Thoughts? It sounded like a loud whistle before limping mode. Pulled over immediately and turned off car and let rest for five minutes. She stared back up fine afterwards. The CEL codes were still there of course but have since disappeared after some normal driving for some time.
This is great news. Thanks for the vid! Oh in the drag racing world we have something called a Two Step that kinda does that same thing with older cars without an ECU.
Time will tell how well these hold up over time.
Similiar to the 15-21 WRX 6 speeds- Surprisingly weel depending on how you use it. The issue is these FA24s can make ALOT of torque, which is what does the damage. My bet is that STI trans swaps are going to become very popular.
Best result is to actually semi ride the clutch out as your coming off …. To slow of modulation, you smell it… you’ll know your sweet spot because you’ll feel like you rode the clutch, but if there’s no smell, you didn’t.
Why could I do burn outs with my 98 eclipse on a regular basis and it didn’t need a new clutch. I literally sold my eclipse with 104k miles wrecked and it never needed a clutch, my 22 wrx’s clutch started slipping at 5-6k miles. It may have been a bad pressure plate or spring but it wasn’t even tuned or modified
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This launch is safe for stock 22wrx Or its safer with a tune? I mean changing the gear with flat foot on gas, i never tried this kind of shifting, really cool man
It would be just as "Safe" on the stock power level (if not safer due to less stress on everything) than with a tuned car, but you must have a COBB tune to utilize it. Thank you for the comment!
for people already running one of your ots tunes do i have to purchase another for you to enable these?
Nope update ur accessport
No need to purchase another tune we have an item in the store called “Tune Feature Update” to bring any old map up to the latest software.
Do you have to have the AccessPort connected in order for LC and FFS to work?
no, I'm 97% sure it's set as soon as you select it and can be left alone just like a realtime tune (which is a tune that requires no flashing of the ecu)
Is it possible to just use cobb ap and order a tune that keeps everything stock but allows me to flat foot shift and launch control? I want to keep my warranty in tact so i dont want to tune my car just yet but would love to have these features.
You can’t have these features without messing with your warranty. I was worried about my warranty, but YOLO.
So I might get some flack for this, but FFS, and launch control is cool but to complete this puzzle couldn’t we get rev matching too? I know, I know… you can do it without programming… but more and more car are coming factory with it on there more “driver” oriented cars and it’d be nice to get the option. Just a thought don’t kill me.
Rev matching is a very cool feature found on some cars, but it would be rather challenging to add to the WRX.
Can you guys program in a rev match on downshifts into the car?
Bro use your foot
This car does not support that but it can be more fun to do it manually with practice.
I’ve been driving manual transmissions for the last 32 years. I can rev much with my eyes closed eating a cheeseburger with a side of fries while sipping a Coke holding up the steering wheel with my knee…I drove my friends FL5 Civic Type R with a rev match on and it’s a really cool feature. I wouldn’t mind having it my own car.
Awesome video! We have a Facebook track oriented group. Would you be interested in working with me to develop a track oriented tune and maybe offer some sort of tuning package to the group?
Could someone tell me what rear seat cover that is in the back?
@@jesse1625 it’s just one of those dog rear seat covers. Can find out the exact one if you like.
I noticed you had the traction control in track mode and not completely off? Is there a reason for that
Just might have been an oversight while I was focused on everything else. In track mode it doesn't seem to be over bearing in these situations.
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 got it. So i learned from your demonstration that if i set FFS at 4800 i can still keep my foot down on accelerator if i say shift at 6000 rpm right? I always thought you needed to set the FFS at the highest rpm you wanna shift at
I know this is a weird question but your center gauge is green. Did you do something to it? Mine is red
Hmm, no that is how it's always been.
For some reason my accessport doesnt have an adjustments option to enable the fun stuff does anybody know why this is or have a fix for it?
It must be updated with a tune for the custom features.
I can’t afford to void my warranty! It must be nice to be able to that.
Thank you for making this video. Can launch control work on the CVT? I would love to see a video covering this if ur willing to make it. Love from Jamaica 🇯🇲 ❤
Launch control would not work on the CVT due to the way it works
wow
Your downshifts could use some work though 😉
@@drumhopttv I was looking forward to checking out your downshifts, but then I noticed you don’t have any content
I used to launch in my turbo baja and broke 2 driveshafts. Now I have a ford driveshaft with stronger joints. Problem solved
5.5 to 60
@@BigGyz680 this car does 0-60 in 4.3.
Over explaining and too long. 😢
No worries, I put timestamps so you can move around easily. Hopefully this FREE video helped you learn something!!
Why launch a slow car?
Because it's fun
You can't tell me that the launches are slow. Even this tuned VB being a manual, it would still beat the Audi S4 I had lol
You might be trolling but let’s discuss anyway! Calling a car slow is all relative. Based on your content uploads I can imagine being a gamer you are used to unrealistic expectations (total assumptions btw so forgive me). In the real world this red car has ran a 12.63 @ 110mph without launch control or FFS when it was making about 30hp less. Is it “fast”? Not really. We build 7 sec GTRs at our shop. But it’s not slow by any means. This car is still fun to drive and many would agree!
Subaru = 🗑 🚮
Thank you for your insight! Still a very popular and capable platform. I was going to check out your content and see what you like but I noticed you don’t have any.