Excellent Alex! Didn’t know you put this out - parallel timing with the WRX that you did work on for literally weeks later. Air intake and OTS tuning alone got me 317 whp and 341 torque at 93 octane. Can’t wait for your next videos.
I'd say 6K is probably a safe rev limit for the engine, as we know Car companies for the most part try to keep it safe/long term use for their customers. Yet I am hoping the transmission, head gaskets, head, and engine itself is an improvement on previous models.
Cant wait for my warranty to be up so I can scoop a tune from you guys. Definitely looking forward to getting an E-tune in the future. Excited for more VB content!
After Travis pastrana did a test run in this car. You see that this is a very capable car and if you think now the 25 sti is based of the 23 therefore the aftermarket is about to open up greatly for this car and this will be a sti swap candidate in the future.
I’m a sucker for VB content 😁 I know exact numbers don’t mean much dyno to dyno but I think Subaru may have stated wheel hp/tq numbers instead of crank hp/tq for this gen or they just downplayed it like you said for some reason 😂 I’ve seen quite a few bone stock cars dyno around 260/270 at the wheel. 💪🏻🔥🔥 Can’t wait to see more
Tuning on the VB WRX is Crazy, People have hit 400w/500wtq off FBO on E40 or E85 If I remember with the stock turbo already stock cams also! Just bigger supporting to cool and exhaust system mods.
6500-6800RPM REDLINE HAVE BEEN DONE.I HAVE MINE SET AT 6500 WHICH IS FINE BC ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS BE ABLE TO HIT 60 WITHOUT SHIFTING TO 3RD WHICH I CAN EASILY DUE NOW
I had seen so much negativity on the new wrxs and was very shocked when i test drove one.. i guess my butt dyno did a good job because it felt like a more powerful car then the 2018 to me in a similar manner as this dyno shows.. after 4k just really seperated itsself stock... ended up being so surprised with it i went with the wrx over the older one or a brz or hyundai n
Just like buyig a new motorcycle. It can be driven hard straight off the lot. The break in period is for the rider to get used to the new bike and for the tires to wear in.
Driveline loss is very close to a fixed number, rather than a percentage. We figure the 5+1 speed split case 6 speed soaks up about 50hp give or take a few.
@@jamesswain2923 If you are a better driver, you will win. However, if you are doing a lot of launch races, your tranny will break first! lol The sti has a very stout transmission.
50 miles and already flooring it? yikes, i have the 22 wrx in dark grey and yeah it hard to not push it in its first 1000 mile break-in period, i mean look at donut media, they put new engines in, never broke them in and look what happened a few hundred miles later, idk about tuning a car with only 50 miles on it cause engine damage can be so subtle and happen and you dont know about it and youre tuning off a soon to be non running engine, but hats off to you good luck guys
When I purchased my the dealer told me you don’t have to break it in , he said drive it hard straight from the beginning The engine will open up much better. Now car’s done 7000 km and it feels great
@@romantretiak6888 new car engine is still a new car engine, idk what was running through that sales persons head, but you SHOULD NOT skip the break in period on new car engines at all. Look at Donut media cause that’s what will happen soon
@@BerettaBoom BS! I drove my civic si like I stole it when I bought it brand new. It drove like an absolute champ and consumed zero oil when I sold it at 70k miles. Meanwhile, oil consumption was common for people who babied that engine on the break-in. Same thing with my integra type r I had over 20 years ago. People babying them has oil consumption.
Certainly not setting any records but if you look in the -brand new- 30k price range, it's on par with the others. The best part about this car is that the engine is very de-tuned which is bad for 'keep it stock' people but great for those who want to tune!
A single full-throttle pull in third gear is certainly not the torture chamber. We’ve been running in new engines in a similarly fashion for a while without any negative results… but do whatever you are most comfortable with.
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 I'm glad to hear this. I am taking delivery of a VB soon and want to respect the break-in period but I also don't want to drive under 4000 RPM for a thousand miles. 👍
@@Jason_P I did under 4K for 300 miles then up to 4-4.5k for 200 miles. Drained factory oil at 500 miles.. that shit was dirty as fuck. Now it’s on royal purple 5w30 and I’m introducing boost and letting the car engine break to seal in the rings properly. The royal purple should help get rid of those nasty break in particles for my next oil change at 1k miles
First comment: That's interesting Alex, thanks for sharing 👍🏼 i really though it's less powerful than previous generation due to the CVT. Speaking of CVT, hows the car feel with it?! And do u think it'll hold mods as good as previous gens?
I feel like these cars are over rated people are getting super excited about these numbers and gains and are worried about numbers and gains I want to know if this car is going to be able to hold 400 WHP AND 450 WTRQ after putting 50k hard miles on it this car still has the shit ass split case 6speed in it I truly don’t believe we are going to know the FA24 capabilities until someone does the STI drivetrain swap once I did the STI drivetrain swap on my 2019 wrx I eliminated the biggest weak point of the car and was able to push the car without worring about it breaking cuz everyone thinks the FA20s weak point is the Rods if you build the car correctly you can run 400whp and 420trq in a FA20 for 50k miles Becuase the weak point on my build was the drivetrain not the engine I just really want to see how long these FA24s handle power and the longevity of them Becuase I’m honestly thinking about adding one to the lineup but it’s just to early for me I really want to see more one with hard miles on it that has been tuned for a long time more parts availability I just feel these guys going out and buying them and throwing all these parts on these cars not knowing how long the motor will last is a huge risk all I can say is I hope you have deep pockets or buy a FA24 block and have it sitting on the side line cuz this happend with the FA 20 people started throwing huge numbers at them and they started breaking and they got a reputation of blowing up when it was the people not building them correctly or throwing to much power at them with wrong parts or using OTS tunes with wrong parts and the car was labeled and unreliable I just don’t want the same thing to happen to this car I’m a simple guy I love Subarus and I want this car to preform great I’m just afraid some of these guys are gonna try to throw everything they can at them and they are not going to last and they will get labeled as unreliable when it’s really not the case it was someone throwing way to much power at a car that could not handle it just very interested to see what the future holds after these thing have 50,60,70k miles on them IMO just to early to get excited about these numbers it’s throwing down.
I’ve already seen a video where a guy with a 22 Rex making 400 whp and similar tq broke his trainsmission. Subaru built this engine that makes crazy gains for a 4 cylinder but they didn’t engineer the trans any better to handle it.
@Drew Miller I’m with you on this. As far as deep pockets, apparently todays buyer of the 22/23 WRX must have deep pockets. I mean hell, the ink isn’t even dried on the buying contract and they’ve already got a garage full of bolt ons & a COBB tuner ready to destroy their warranty. They have no idea what’s going to happen 50k miles down the road. By the time they spend all of the money and time, why not just buy a more powerful and faster car to begin with. Would I like to have more power? Heck yeah, but I just can’t in good conscience mod the shit out of a brand new car that I depend on to get to work every day. I only bought this car because I wanted AWD without it being a putt putt grocery getter. The build quality & fit/finish alone leaves me really weary about doing anything to this car. My biggest gripe is the super thin sheet metal and the horrible hood flex on the hinges side. It flexes with every single imperfection in the road, even very minor ones. The sad thing is you’ll never see someone on UA-cam or FB admitting that something catastrophic happened because of the modding someone did on their car. Not only that, but I’m treated as less of a person because I won’t modify mine. How sad is that? It’s such a sad world we live in today.
@@Konformation07 lmao they don’t typically brake instantly unless you money shift. Hell I could run 5-600 hp on my sti block but it would probably break in 30-40k miles.
Bigger engine, heftier internals. The numbers are insane and its just the beginning.
Your dyno is exactly what my experience ( 60 years of building and racing ) has shown with my VB.
Good to know, thanks for the comment!
Excellent Alex! Didn’t know you put this out - parallel timing with the WRX that you did work on for literally weeks later. Air intake and OTS tuning alone got me 317 whp and 341 torque at 93 octane. Can’t wait for your next videos.
how does this feel compared to stock? Pull much harder?
I'd say 6K is probably a safe rev limit for the engine, as we know Car companies for the most part try to keep it safe/long term use for their customers. Yet I am hoping the transmission, head gaskets, head, and engine itself is an improvement on previous models.
I've had 15 subies from 84- 23
This is the best quality and pwr so far IMHO...
1:00 one minute in, I know this video is gonna be a good one.
alex tuned my VA WRX and this dude knows his fucking shit. dudes awesome. loved having him tune it.
I appreciate the kind words! Thank you! -Alex
Some great info/facts there.. You’ve picked up a sub, look forward to more VB content👍
biggest downer with the 22 is the 6k redline. soon as you get into the power you hit a wall, hope a tune opens that up a little.
I’ve seen tunes move it over to 6500 redline just like the civic si and a few others
That was addressed in the video
Cant wait for my warranty to be up so I can scoop a tune from you guys. Definitely looking forward to getting an E-tune in the future. Excited for more VB content!
After Travis pastrana did a test run in this car. You see that this is a very capable car and if you think now the 25 sti is based of the 23 therefore the aftermarket is about to open up greatly for this car and this will be a sti swap candidate in the future.
I’m a sucker for VB content 😁 I know exact numbers don’t mean much dyno to dyno but I think Subaru may have stated wheel hp/tq numbers instead of crank hp/tq for this gen or they just downplayed it like you said for some reason 😂 I’ve seen quite a few bone stock cars dyno around 260/270 at the wheel. 💪🏻🔥🔥 Can’t wait to see more
It's going to be good!
lol same. The VB is pretty dam amazing and it drives great and nice handling. I am very satisfied with my purchase of the car
Tuning on the VB WRX is Crazy, People have hit 400w/500wtq off FBO on E40 or E85 If I remember with the stock turbo already stock cams also! Just bigger supporting to cool and exhaust system mods.
I owned a 21 STI new, now a VB also new. VB feels way faster to me.
Not sure how accurate the integrated OEM boost meter is but My stock 2023 base reads 13.1 max boost
Where's the tuned VB video? It's been two months!
Nice job! Thanks!!
Thank you for the comment!
6500-6800RPM REDLINE HAVE BEEN DONE.I HAVE MINE SET AT 6500 WHICH IS FINE BC ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS BE ABLE TO HIT 60 WITHOUT SHIFTING TO 3RD WHICH I CAN EASILY DUE NOW
NEED MORE FREQUENT VB CONTENT MAN !!!!
I had seen so much negativity on the new wrxs and was very shocked when i test drove one.. i guess my butt dyno did a good job because it felt like a more powerful car then the 2018 to me in a similar manner as this dyno shows.. after 4k just really seperated itsself stock... ended up being so surprised with it i went with the wrx over the older one or a brz or hyundai n
This car is my daily but I want more power, thinking cold air intake and custom tune with Cobb does your company do etunes
Yes sir, check out the description for link! We have OTS map for that setup.
Just like buyig a new motorcycle. It can be driven hard straight off the lot. The break in period is for the rider to get used to the new bike and for the tires to wear in.
I'd like to see if the new engine can handle more than two hot laps around a track before blowing.
This question is answered many times over by people that track them. The answer is yes.
Nice vid, so with about 18% drivetrain loss that puts the VB at ~310bhp over the 271bhp
you know stock VBs can keep up with stock STIs right? except with less turbo lag
Driveline loss is very close to a fixed number, rather than a percentage. We figure the 5+1 speed split case 6 speed soaks up about 50hp give or take a few.
@@iakpwnzjoolol I am getting a 23 wrx. My son has a 21 sti. So I will beat him in a race. ??????
@@jamesswain2923 probably comes down to who can shift faster
@@jamesswain2923 If you are a better driver, you will win. However, if you are doing a lot of launch races, your tranny will break first! lol The sti has a very stout transmission.
50 miles and already flooring it? yikes, i have the 22 wrx in dark grey and yeah it hard to not push it in its first 1000 mile break-in period, i mean look at donut media, they put new engines in, never broke them in and look what happened a few hundred miles later, idk about tuning a car with only 50 miles on it cause engine damage can be so subtle and happen and you dont know about it and youre tuning off a soon to be non running engine, but hats off to you good luck guys
When I purchased my the dealer told me you don’t have to break it in , he said drive it hard straight from the beginning
The engine will open up much better. Now car’s done 7000 km and it feels great
@@romantretiak6888 new car engine is still a new car engine, idk what was running through that sales persons head, but you SHOULD NOT skip the break in period on new car engines at all. Look at Donut media cause that’s what will happen soon
@@BerettaBoom BS! I drove my civic si like I stole it when I bought it brand new. It drove like an absolute champ and consumed zero oil when I sold it at 70k miles. Meanwhile, oil consumption was common for people who babied that engine on the break-in. Same thing with my integra type r I had over 20 years ago. People babying them has oil consumption.
I absolutely agree, the oil gets in every “crack “ and crevice, everything gets lubricated from day one.
I thought the same thing, idk how I feel about it
see you soon fs
Nothing quite like a $30k+ "sports car" making 250whp. Excited to see what a couple bolt on's can do for the platform.
Certainly not setting any records but if you look in the -brand new- 30k price range, it's on par with the others. The best part about this car is that the engine is very de-tuned which is bad for 'keep it stock' people but great for those who want to tune!
about 400 whp with just dp, intake, e40. crazy
CVT? 6MT?
This is a manual car.
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 Do you have data on WRX CVT?
Let's see it with a e30 tune.
That MAY already be in process... 😉
they can make 400wtq with an intake and E40 tune...
So they're taking an engine with 50 miles on it straight to the torture chamber?? No break-in at all??
A single full-throttle pull in third gear is certainly not the torture chamber. We’ve been running in new engines in a similarly fashion for a while without any negative results… but do whatever you are most comfortable with.
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 I'm glad to hear this. I am taking delivery of a VB soon and want to respect the break-in period but I also don't want to drive under 4000 RPM for a thousand miles. 👍
@@Jason_P I did under 4K for 300 miles then up to 4-4.5k for 200 miles. Drained factory oil at 500 miles.. that shit was dirty as fuck. Now it’s on royal purple 5w30 and I’m introducing boost and letting the car engine break to seal in the rings properly. The royal purple should help get rid of those nasty break in particles for my next oil change at 1k miles
First comment: That's interesting Alex, thanks for sharing 👍🏼 i really though it's less powerful than previous generation due to the CVT.
Speaking of CVT, hows the car feel with it?! And do u think it'll hold mods as good as previous gens?
This car has option for manual AND CVT. This one is a manual 😁
@@boostcontrolledperformance1523 oh ok i though it comes with cvt only dummy me 😂 I'm a gtr dude with zero knowledge about subarus
@@3yar1983 I have no idea why, but I’ve seen ALOT of people assume it’s CVT only 😂 don’t feel too bad
@@pharmztko that's reassuring then haha 😄
I feel like these cars are over rated people are getting super excited about these numbers and gains and are worried about numbers and gains I want to know if this car is going to be able to hold 400 WHP AND 450 WTRQ after putting 50k hard miles on it this car still has the shit ass split case 6speed in it I truly don’t believe we are going to know the FA24 capabilities until someone does the STI drivetrain swap once I did the STI drivetrain swap on my 2019 wrx I eliminated the biggest weak point of the car and was able to push the car without worring about it breaking cuz everyone thinks the FA20s weak point is the Rods if you build the car correctly you can run 400whp and 420trq in a FA20 for 50k miles Becuase the weak point on my build was the drivetrain not the engine I just really want to see how long these FA24s handle power and the longevity of them Becuase I’m honestly thinking about adding one to the lineup but it’s just to early for me I really want to see more one with hard miles on it that has been tuned for a long time more parts availability I just feel these guys going out and buying them and throwing all these parts on these cars not knowing how long the motor will last is a huge risk all I can say is I hope you have deep pockets or buy a FA24 block and have it sitting on the side line cuz this happend with the FA 20 people started throwing huge numbers at them and they started breaking and they got a reputation of blowing up when it was the people not building them correctly or throwing to much power at them with wrong parts or using OTS tunes with wrong parts and the car was labeled and unreliable I just don’t want the same thing to happen to this car I’m a simple guy I love Subarus and I want this car to preform great I’m just afraid some of these guys are gonna try to throw everything they can at them and they are not going to last and they will get labeled as unreliable when it’s really not the case it was someone throwing way to much power at a car that could not handle it just very interested to see what the future holds after these thing have 50,60,70k miles on them IMO just to early to get excited about these numbers it’s throwing down.
I’ve already seen a video where a guy with a 22 Rex making 400 whp and similar tq broke his trainsmission. Subaru built this engine that makes crazy gains for a 4 cylinder but they didn’t engineer the trans any better to handle it.
@@lucian7182 Over a year later and many VBs running 400 whp and we just now had the first guy break the gearbox? Not bad
@Drew Miller I’m with you on this. As far as deep pockets, apparently todays buyer of the 22/23 WRX must have deep pockets. I mean hell, the ink isn’t even dried on the buying contract and they’ve already got a garage full of bolt ons & a COBB tuner ready to destroy their warranty. They have no idea what’s going to happen 50k miles down the road. By the time they spend all of the money and time, why not just buy a more powerful and faster car to begin with. Would I like to have more power? Heck yeah, but I just can’t in good conscience mod the shit out of a brand new car that I depend on to get to work every day. I only bought this car because I wanted AWD without it being a putt putt grocery getter. The build quality & fit/finish alone leaves me really weary about doing anything to this car. My biggest gripe is the super thin sheet metal and the horrible hood flex on the hinges side. It flexes with every single imperfection in the road, even very minor ones.
The sad thing is you’ll never see someone on UA-cam or FB admitting that something catastrophic happened because of the modding someone did on their car. Not only that, but I’m treated as less of a person because I won’t modify mine. How sad is that? It’s such a sad world we live in today.
@@Konformation07 lmao they don’t typically brake instantly unless you money shift. Hell I could run 5-600 hp on my sti block but it would probably break in 30-40k miles.