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This is exactly how a tool manufacturer could grow their market share, by listening people who are using their tools as a living and keep improving. Great job guys !
You're kidding, right? None of the three tools demonstrated in this videos are staples of a commercial worksite. Ridgid might as well be building blenders.
As a professional the Ridgid Miter box is not something I would ever buy. Took mine back, very inconsistent cuts even at 90 degrees. The cuts were all over the place. I have an old Ryobi that cuts 90 after 90 after 90 all day, dead on. Ridgid also does not offer the same selection that their sister Milwaukee does. So, at this point I am going over to Makitia. The quality is there, and they give you a great variety equal to Mil or better. I stayed with Ridgid for the last 8 years. Now, for a tool company to fall on their face with a poor miter box design, they are not competent, how did you let this happen?
You were invited there because they have clearly hired good leadership that is actually accepting criticism. I'll keep my eyes on rigid now and see what they come up with.
Don't hold your breath....rig·id /ˈrijid/ Learn to pronounce adjective 1. unable to bend or be forced out of shape; not flexible. "a seat of rigid orange plastic"... ..that's a copy and paste definition...Rigid is stuck in the same crap form it's always been
This is ALWAYS. and I mean ALLLLWAAYYYSSS when a company starts to turn around. When the execs actually give a shit about delivering GOOD products that people actually want. Instead of having an, "Oh people will buy it anyway so whatever" attitude.
@@aerball my thoughts exactly. When the CEO is focused on the customer and not shareholders, those are the best run companies! Tells me a lot about the Rogid company!
I actually switched from Dewalt to ridgid after replacing several dewalt tools in a short time from use. I absolutely love Ridgids line of tools and they work very well for me the last 6 years or so. Having said that, this is nothing but good news and great constructive criticism going forward.
I agree 100%. I cannot see paying 2 or 3 times more for a tool that will get the job done just as good as the other. None of my clients have ever come up to me and said, "You did a really nice job remodeling our place, but it would have looked so much nicer if you had used DeWalt or Milwaukee." LMAO
My buddy at work keeps trying to get me over to Milwaukee. Yet my older generation rigid tools the Gen 5x brushed models have more power than his brushless models. And I paid half as much for my 5 piece combo set on sale for 250 bucks he paid $500 for his high torque Milwaukee impact wrench. The only reason I could see going Ryobi or Milwaukee or even Makita is if you need more tools than the basics. Circular saw reciprocating saw impact driver impact wrench drill driver. If you need more than those then by all means go somewhere else with a wider variety but as far as the basics go rigid offers a great lineup for the basics that most prosumers use. Every house project I've been able to complete with rigid tools and they get me very far at work fixing tractor trailers. The only thing I really need is a high torque impact wrench.
@@Techprep23 I just got the Rigid 600 ft/lb impact wrench and it works great. Black Friday is coming up at home depot, GREAT time to collect some Rigid tools for cheap cheap. Not even on Black Friday are the DeWalt or Milwaukee tools on sale. It's ridiculous how much the want for the them.
Funny, we switched from Rigid to Metabo for framing guns since all the rigid ones generally wore down pretty fast…. It’s been like 8yrs since tho so maybe they’ve improved the year and wear in the framing/finish gun lineup … but for now we’re still Metabo fans
Ridged should have stayed with the octane line and upgraded the current tools like every other brand has done and not make a whole new line that only has a few tools. The octane tools had potential
Well if they switched sides on the board instead of saws we would’ve seen a different outcome. Its a lot harder to cut through yellow grain than the light which is why it slowed half way through. Look at the color of grain when it slowed down
That pine with knots and sapwood on the one end of the board is twice as hard to cut as the clear almost quarter sawn end. They should have swapped ends for a true comparison.
I'm sure VCG knows that too which makes you wonder why he didn't call them on it if it was a genuine comparison but instead participated in false advertising.
Those tests were a total setup overall. I want to see full batteries on both tools, new blades and same wood in addition to the same force. Using a dull blade on the competition is a classic on trade shows. And that drill was a comparison between brushless and brushed, may as well not compare it at all.
the Ridgid has a much larger stroke length and runs a faster stroke per minute. The thicknesses of the board is the reason Ridgid performed way better better. the board was thicker than DeWalts stroke length but not the Ridgids. Ridgid could clear the chips DeWalt couldn't. if they were cutting 2x4s it would have been much closer. Ridgid would still win though.
Refreshing video. They really do look promising. Rigid does do a lot of things right like you said, but there has always been better options for the same money. Now that they are attacking their flaws I see them becoming a much better option. Thanks for the video and thanks to Rigid for being fair about things!
As a contractor I went to Ridgid many years ago specifically for the lifetime warranty. To date they are yet to repair or replace a single defective tool. I am now switching everything to Milwaukee.
With 40 years of experience with power tools i can say this. I want a tool that performs and is well made. I grew up around Black and Decker, Skilsaw Porter Cable and Milwaukee. Today some of these brands are junk. They have been bought out by mega tool companies. If the tool is well made and durable it will stand on it's own no matter what brand it is.
Now or today all big name of tool Made in China with low quality parts ( the 1st important Production low cost ) . I have Dewalt Made in England and USA . Hitachi Made in Japan , Milwaukee Made in USA and all have more the 15 years and still works.
@@rubenmv91 I do some research before buying a tool based on it's brand name. I recently bought a worm drive. It's a skil saw mag 77 based on reviews from the essential craftsman UA-cam channel.
I have Ridgid, Ryobi, and Milwaukee (the TTI trifecta) and just picked up a Makita saw the other day. I don't use any of them often/hard enough to run them into the ground. So, I can't say which is the best value. We nitpick differences between brands, but I'm just happy cordless tools have become the new standard. I love them all!
I worked in the trades a long while, and mostly Dewalt and Milwaukee held up. I scorched my makita set, worked side-by-sede with with guy who went ryobi, and they were about the same as makita. Now, out of the trades, 8 have an M12 set from Milwaukee, which is more tool than most homeowners would ever need, while being comfortable for people whose hands aren't anywhere near as strong as tradesmen hands.
DIYer here. I just upgraded all of my old power tools to DeWalt. Ridgid was considered but quickly disqualified because the power tools are just too big and too blocky. Love the boxes and the vacs. Good to see they are going more compact.
I have many and don't mind the shape or weight. I really prefer their grip to others not only because of the texture, but because as a professional user they do not seem to seperate from the handle as bad as the dewalts or milwaukees. Don't missunderstand with enough use they still get loose but it doesn't seem to be right on the front seam of the grip like the other two, its usually on the back around the thumb / pointer area. Otherwise I would agree that they are often bulkier or heavier in some instances than the others. It just doesn't seem to bother me I guess because the grip feels better making it less noticeable. Funny note though. There subcompact drill is only slightly smaller than the Gen3 Milwaukee fuel lol. If I were looking for weight savings out of the 3 I would have to pick the Dewalts. They are light and although I don't prefer the smooth grip they are still very ergonomic. The grips on Milwaukees are about the same but their tools are a little on the heavier side, however they generally make that difference up in power.
I'm a dewalt guy. But if another tool maker comes out with a tool that dewalt doesn't make ill buy it. I just got there new dcf923 atomic haven't used it yet but can't wait to.
Ik I'll be in the minority but I consider every other power tool over dewalt. Every work place I've been at has dewalts and they've always been complete shit. Especially their impacts. They've never lasted.
Apprentice here, one of the guys I work with uses rigid here in Australia it’s called AEG. Two days ago we went through 3 batteries with 1 bar of charge left and none would power the leaf blower. He then discarded a fourth battery with 3 bars because it was faulty. Not sure if we’re talking about the same brand here but I can see where Vince is coming from, He’s in what you might call a pickle of a situation. Don’t envy you at all Vince, glad you spun it to the brighter side though you’re a gentleman.
As somebody who didn’t get into the Ridgid lineup until their octane mid-torque impact wrench came out, I had serious buyers remorse after they discontinued the octane lineup. It was at that moment I jumped to Milwaukee, though I still have my octane impact wrench, angle grinder, and four of the 4 aH octane batteries. It would be nice to see more offerings and a stable platform.
Bro, I'm glad you did this... I've been a ridgid tools due to price points but Dewalt tools seem to be the standard. Glad to see that Ridgid is moving the needle forward with performance and quality. Their lifetime warranty has been one of the main reasons I've stuck with them. I agree with everything you mentioned in the video.
That's probably a good leader with faith in his product. Inviting in someone who's not a fanboy rather than preaching to the converted. After years of supermarket brands, I've recently started my own professional collection and it's primarily Makita, so I won't be buying. But I think that strong competition is healthy.
I am the biggest Ridgid tool fan, over 60+ registered tools. What got me deep into the brand was the Octane line, and now I feel like the line has been neutered. Octane discontinued, Megamax discontinued. I feel betrayed after the large financial investment I have made. Ridgid seems to be becoming a orange painted Ryobi, I did not buy into the brand for entry level tools and that is what they are becoming sadly.
I KNEW IT!!!!!! My evil twin said he could not help me last week cause he had something to do. Now I see it was because he was HANGING WITH YOU!!! (HE REALLY IS EVILLLLLL!)
I ran Rigid tools for quite a few years…they always seemed like they weighed 2x as much as the higher end lines, but the price was right especially when it seemed like they were always clearancing out a line at the depot. However, I got sick of spending more times waiting for my tools to get serviced that I made the switch to team red. Should have spent the extra money day one!
I liked Rigid long long ago The tool felt like quality in my hands. Over the years I have changed to using multiple brands other than dewalt and rigid. Depends on the application for what tool ill break out. If I had to pick one brand it would prolly be makita, With ryobi being second. IMO ryobi used to be junk now I like them.
As a professional the Ridgid Miter box is not something I would ever buy. Took mine back, very inconsistent cuts even at 90 degrees. The cuts were all over the place. I have an old Ryobi that cuts 90 after 90 after 90 all day, dead on. Ridgid also does not offer the same selection that their sister Milwaukee does. So, at this point I am going over to Makitia. The quality is there, and they give you a great variety equal to Mil or better. I stayed with Ridgid for the last 8 years. Now, for a tool company to fall on their face with a poor miter box design, they are not competent, how did you let this happen?
Hey Vince, I've seen a couple of your video's before and this one had me subscribe. I do a lot of research before I buy anything and knowing that a tool company can change with a new line-up is awesome. Buying a pc of crap is the last thing I wanna do. We don't know, what we don't know. The honesty is appreciated.
Im not on the Ridgid platform but I'll be cheering on their success. Ridgid's new offerings will help drive innovation, competition and ultimately improve their customers end user experience. Those demo's were impressive! Have an awesome night! 👍
As a professional the Ridgid Miter box is not something I would ever buy. Took mine back, very inconsistent cuts even at 90 degrees. The cuts were all over the place. I have an old Ryobi that cuts 90 after 90 after 90 all day, dead on. Ridgid also does not offer the same selection that their sister Milwaukee does. So, at this point I am going over to Makitia. The quality is there, and they give you a great variety equal to Mil or better. I stayed with Ridgid for the last 8 years. Now, for a tool company to fall on their face with a poor miter box design, they are not competent, how did you let this happen?
Like they say “two’s company and three’s a crowd.” It’s hard managing three separate tool lines and maintaining a purpose for each. Back when Ryobi was blue and didn’t have as large of a line of tools and was what Chaka Gillis thinks Ryobi still is, having the Rigid line made sense as a step in between Ryobi and Milwaukee. But the Ryobi line has become huge and the green so much better and Milwaukee’s prices are really competitive that there isn’t as much need for the middle step anymore in my humble opinion. Maybe they should stick to corded tools and vacuums where a lifetime warranty is more valuable?
Milwaukee's price is not all that great when you consider the top end ridgid octane tools meet them in quality and swap blows in perfomance. No matter where you look they swap blows on many tools and Ridgid hi torque 1/2 impact holds the crown of the most powerful 1/2 cordless impact as tested By Torque Test Channel found here on youtube, which includes all models of 1/2 Milwaukee impacts which are intern more powerful than pretty much all others themselves. The biggest thing ridgid lacks is variety which is funny considering the amount of other tools they release under their name in other countries which is AEG. I would however agree That Ryobi is still on a Slope headed closer to the top day by day as their tools keep getting more features and more power. Their new mid torque impact is a monster. Leaving only a small space for ridgid to fit in. If ridgid continues to make tools like their newest line up though they may be swapping spots with Ryobi. Happy with all my Ridgids except for the three subcompact tools I own. The power is ok but the quality is, well it remains to be seen. When Ryobi starts to swap blows with Milwaukee constantly then it may be time for ridgid to go. I guess Id have to go Milwaukee because I hate the old school style of the Ryobi batteries, they are terrible to store and pack out if you have a few
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r I completely agree with you on rye batteries. The HP line should have been in the new style of batteries and just include an adaptor to make them backward compatible. Total ball drop there.
@@billsedutto8824 Totally agree. I would love to pick up more of their line as they are getting strong and reliable enough for daily use given their variety and price. I just hate that with all other manufacturers you can stack the batteries in a box or cabinet etc. Not Ryobi though, you got to play a game of Tetris to get them to fit neatly. Your right too, it would have been a good time to swap to a newer style. I agree it would suck to lose backwards compatibility but they could just as easily make an adapter like Dewalt did with their 20v max Lithium to 18V ni-cad tools. In 99 percent of cases considering the average buyer of most of the older Ryobi tools that would be just fine, especially if they made the adapter nice and thin so it would almost be unnoticeable when attached to the tool. I guess it would suck to have to buy newer batteries but if your buying the newest tools you probably need to anyways to get the power gains of the newer tools. If your gonna cut the power in half with an old battery might as well just use the old tool.
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r I went out and got that 1/2 in. Octane impact and 3Ah batteries after that TT test. Sad to see Ridgid abandoning Octane power in favor of emasculated pretty-boy metrosexual mini-toys!
I have always been a yellow guy but I recently was looking for a smaller drill . I ended up getting the sub compact ridged . So far I am very happy with the overall performance . The ergonomics are good the weight is good and so far the battery life has been good . Last but not least the price point you can’t beat . I am already looking at the circ saw to make another pc of yellow stay on the shelf .
“Milwaukee won’t let us have the good tools” Ridgid got straight up punished when their high torque impact wrench out performed the 2767. They had to discontinue it, and basically come out with a rebadged ryobi high torque.
A few years back I moved almost 100% to Rigid, starting with a Black Friday Bundle. There are other brands that have better/more offerings, which is the downside of Rigid at times. I felt like DeWalt and Bosch had lost their edge, performance, and quality. I didn`t have the money to go Milwaukee. I now have the money to go with any brand, but I am sticking with Rigid. I am not a daily power user but so far Rigid has not let me down. That being said, they all have their pros and cons. Nothing motivates a team more than seeing the guy that says, "I don`t like your product". Great videos.
I'll be honest. I've had their gen 5 brushless drill & driver for yrs without issues and absolutely put then through the ringer. If they took a shit I'd buy a new set same day without hesitation. Great battery life too. But a bit bulky with a 4.0ah. Can u confirm if they're produced in the same factory as milwaukee?
Bravo Vincent! You may have helped save the Rigid brand. Unfortunately, in today's world there's too much 'that's good' and not enough 'this sucks'. Companies cannot grow from good to great without some hard-swallowing moments. Well done.
I recently switched from Ridgid to Milwaukee, and seemingly at the right time. The Octane line was awesome, but their new lines just seem... slightly better than Ryobi
@@robertrandall9807 at any rate, they clearly put more into their Milwaukee line. Thanks 4 info, didnt know that. Dewalt/ black n decker marriage i was aware of.
Go look at a tool company ownership chart. Each brand is to fill a specific segment in the market, and each parent company had a tool brand at each price point. You are a perfect example. Ryobi, Ridged/AEG and Milwaukee are all owned by the same company. Having a customer progress ryobi - Ridged/AEG - Milwaukee like you have os the perfect outcome for the company
My only question is with a brushless unit you took a component out of the tool so how does that justifies the cost of it being more? Am I not understanding something here?
Ryobi 18V One+: Over 225 different tools Milwaukee M18: Over 200 tools Ridgid 18V: Altogether, about 56 Neither TTI nor Emerson have folks completely convinced that they are 100% dedicated to the Ridgid line. My first set of tools was Ridgid. Once my needs changed, I had to buy into other platforms. They're not bad tools, but they're not great, either. They're good, but it seems like they just cannot find their target customers.
I was thinking of switching to Ryobi from Kobalt (a rebranded Skil basically) because Ryobi has every tool under the sun to the point I wouldn't be surprised if they had a battery powered kitchen sink. However I've heard Ryobi isn't as durable in their construction as their competitors.
Waiting to see Ridgid response to Packout and others fitted tool storage systems. Bought a bunch of their 3 piece set and bucket, then started making my own kits with Kazan foam
Whatever Vince speak the truth. We are tradesmen; our opinions on power tools should be treated like Gospel. I remember when all the big brands were putting internet connections in their impacts and drills . “You can open your Milwaukee app and check your performance in Real time!” Or I could pull the trigger you monkeys and it will do the same thing. “What professional tradesmen use an app to check their performance on their power tools” I swear these marketing as designers have never been on a job site.
As a ridgid user, I'll be completely honest. They have a lot of work to do and step it up. I'm glad after they took out the octane line they began to replace and also add more tools to their arsenal. What I want to see from them is to bring back their 12v line. Give the market competition against Milwaukee, competition drives innovation and and quality, different lights besides the 4 they currently carry, updated corded tools that have been in their arsenal for years! Their own driver and impact bits. Their own saw blades, more cabinetry tools like their old band saws, planers. Get into electrical! They have a lot of work to do but with them throwing the octane away they seem to finally have a set path for tools and what to make. I'm keeping my fingers crossed but only time will tell
@@keegannoel43 they own them yes, but it doesn't stop them from producing new tools. If ridgid Is able to bring in more users they will probably expand more of their line.
@@unclepungus7828 it's a Chinese company now. The only thing they care about is making the cheapest tools an charging as much as they can for them. I was a power tool Salesman for a year, now I am an electrician. Believe me the entire company is headed down hill.
No bro you speak your mind ...you were honest....coming years of experience in the trades and using tools....if they are offended then they dont care about its users opinons and how to better improve on them..
That’s the good part, they’re very receptive to the constructive criticism. They even admitted to being “off course” for a while and talked about how they’re working to “Right the ship”! Raj!
@VCG...Yeah Vince, it's good that you keep the course and be true to your methodology given the time you've been in the trade. I loved when you threw the curve ball to ,(us), the viewer, and chucked one of the freshly unboxed tools right on to the ground, and said, " oh that's not what you were expecting?- well we do real scenarios with tools here at VCG." Love that you really ask the questions that need to be asked to keep competition great and engineers on their toes.
These are the questions I wish you would have asked on camera: Do you read the comments from my subscribers? Do you realize how many Octane users are disappointed you discontinued the line in favor of smaller less powerful tools? Can we test on camera here in the showroom with older Octane tools with a 3Ah battery against the new models? Is it true the newer 6 and 8ah batteries will have 21700 cells and when will they become available? Ps: did the Dewalts used in the demos have the new Dewalt batteries?
As objectively sound and reasonable as that request would be outright; and I don't know because I'm a stooge by comparison, but I'd imagine when you're invited to a facility by a company, that company is in control of all the variables, not their guests. I don't think it'd be asinine to consider it's entirely possible that the inviting company requires NDAs to be signed and to review and approve all photographic pictures or video taken. For me, it comes down to who is chosen to talk, is it their dual-major marketing and MBA, or their value engineer who was responsible for choosing what materials go where, and why. I'd rather talk to someone about their issues with injection molding, than to someone who'd rather talk about their issues getting their products out the door, and cringeworthily try to sell them into your hand.
@@Keatononame13 that's why I appreciate torque test and project farm and other UA-cam channels that do comparison tests straight up with no b*******- is it actually a better tool? Do the actual results match your claims or not?
About 5 years ago I bought a Ridged 10" mitre saw on sale @ Home Depot, Never could keep the saw cutting square, the fence would constantly move on me, also finally realized the fence was bowed. Called Ridged to try to get a replacement, and was told that this particular saw was made by a different manufacturer that was allowed to use thier name, and I would have to contact them for warranty! Well that was $400 in the trash, now very happy with my DeWalt!
I have to agree with one of the other comments that there was a knot in that wood and up to that point there wasn't a difference. Also I'm sure dewalt will be updating their right angle drill ...the Dewalt brushed drill was barely a half second behind. It just seems like Ridgid dropped the ball about 2 years ago. Thanks for another good video though.
I am not sure if Rigid was waiting for others to produce newer and more efficient compact tools so they could see where the market was going. Their drills still had a metal chuck which rubbed on surfaces and polished right up (it quickly looked worn) when others had unbreakable plastic chucks for years. It looks like they are catching up, or trying. It shud be noted that once a craftsman selects a brand of power tools he usually sticks with it because of the $1000 of batteries he has for it.
Thank God you actually gave a timeline for when the rigid tools quality seemed to take a nose dive, because I thought I must have been insanely lucky or something. I've had my rigid tools for around five years now, and not one of them has been bad, or crapped out on me. I work maintenance, and I use them every day, often, some of them, like my circular saw, sawzall and drill perform as well as other people's corded tools. The drill mixes mud like a corded one, and my sawzall is really close to my corded Bostitch one in performance. My finish nailer can pretty much keep up with the pneumatic one that my company has without having to lug around a compressor, and my circular saw rarely has ever bogged down, same as the corded saws I've used, and that's only when the battery is just about dead. So if what you're talking about is the uglier looking ones I've seen popping up within the last couple years, that makes sense, as they didn't seem to have the quality of the ones I already have. I also imagine that if there are issues with any of their products, said issues are more likely to pop up when used in a construction setting where they are used for their singular purpose all eight work hours of every day. While I am shooting up trim in a couple of apartments in a day, I'm not shooting trim every day all day, so I thought that maybe that's where people were seeing problems, but maybe it's just the tools from the last couple years?
I feel like there's a great opportunity for a drinking game here. Every time he feels personally attacked, you gotta take a swig, and when he says "gaping holes" you gotta finish your drink!
My issue is that when you are invested in a specific brand of tools changing brands is expensive and as a result not practical. The main reason is batteries.
You can adapt Milwaulkee and Dewalt batteries to Ryobi tools really easy. I do it for when I want something that Milwaulkee doesn't make (hot glue gun or 18V tire inflator).
I used to be a Ridgid guy because of their lifetime warranty until I tried to use it. It took 6 weeks for HD to replace a orbital sander. Replacing batteries is always a fight. The hassle is just not worth the “lifetime “ warranty.
Same here had a vacuum go bad read the life time service agreement said send it in and we will determine if it's a warranty issue. Same with there sump pump. There warranty/service agreement is a joke.
I can say the same about dewalt. Drove 40 miles for their belt sander, got home it was dead. Went to walmart and picked up a skill to get the job done.
This is a cool dud I appreciate all of your time and the videos u are very honest and open about what works and don't in your opinion and I just love its what I clicked to see and get it every time I watch what u post thanks again I'm a big fan 1000% keep it up man 👍👍!!!
You are my hero. I've expressed my concern with the brand...very recently on your videos. Because that's the platform I'm on and in the past year or so I personally see every power tool company looking like they are going forward where Ridgid seemed like it was stagnant or even going backwards. I hope they took what you said and used it as motivation.
I can tell you as an owner of some of the new ones that they are in some ways definitely going backwards. None of this stuff compares to the build quality or power of the octane tools. They have removed many features such as the light trigger frim the tools and are using inferior batteries compared to octane. Some of the newer tools do not have the octane tabs either and we are talking top models. I am angry at this change as I own a whole lot of their tools and batteries which the are obsoleting with crap to replace them with.
As far as most of these new offerings they've done a great job. The negative is the 4ah max output. The 3ah octane is a beast of a battery. They should have used 21700 cells on the 4ah max output. The hammer drill is way less powerful than the octane version, the biggest negative out of these new tools. The next bad was the octane high torque impact wrench vs the new high torque impact wrench. But I will say that the new 6ah max output and 8ah max output will be better batteries than the octane because of the 21700 cells. So at least an upgrade there. So it's only a few negatives. But the hammer drill was the biggest travesty out if this.
Love Ridgid tools -- best grips out there, sound good, great batteries. I bought nearly every one of their tools for the LSA -- use almost all of them regularly -- but have basically never needed it. With few exceptions they're high quality tools at a great price. Ridgid for 18V, Milwaukee for 12V. No regrets.
As a professional the Ridgid Miter box is not something I would ever buy. Took mine back, very inconsistent cuts even at 90 degrees. The cuts were all over the place. I have an old Ryobi that cuts 90 after 90 after 90 all day, dead on. Ridgid also does not offer the same selection that their sister Milwaukee does. So, at this point I am going over to Makitia. The quality is there, and they give you a great variety equal to Mil or better. I stayed with Ridgid for the last 8 years. Now, for a tool company to fall on their face with a poor miter box design, they are not competent, how did you let this happen?
@@hdvictoryford5329 What's a "Miter box"? Haven't used those in 30 years. Ridgid's new rebranded Delta miter saw definitely has some cut-consistency issues, hopefully they'll fix it because otherwise it's a great saw. I just got the 18V sliding miter and did some tests and it actually does quite well -- almost no lateral play at full extension -- very happy with it so far. Probably why they called it the "unicorn" for awhile while it was backordered. And yes, Milwaukee and Makita have wider lines, but they don't have an LSA and they're more expensive. If you need a wide line and have plenty of $$, go Milwaukee unless you're already invested in Makita. But if Ridgid carries the tools you need, and you have a budget, Ridgid's been a pretty great value. (No, I don't work for them.)
@@acecabezon What is a miter box. You got to be joking. That is how a carpenter learned. These new Miter saws are just updated versions of a miter box. And Junior I don't worry about semantics, my old Ryobi is dead on after being thrown around for over 20 years. And the original cost, 49.95. For what you have to pay for this by comparison, well just say they are pretty, and a real POS. And to say there is no lateral travel, well you must be a gentle soul, lol. In the real world these new saws have lateral travel with very little effort. If your engineers can't design a saw that eliminates lt, it should not be made. Come on the job with some real life experience and you will quickly see why many have 3-4-or even 5 of these on a job. They are over priced and under engineered. And to pay that kind of money! Build it right and I will. This design NO! And what tells me this, Over 50 years of building experience, Skippy!
That's right. To hell with Ridgid warranty when I can just buy another and drop the dead tool in the box and return it. We don't have time to wait for a repair
I would have liked to have seen them swap blades and ends of the bord. also how charged was each one, and where they both brushless with the same amp battery?
No joke!!! I have lots of respect for Ridgid. I do think they will fill those gaps.😁😁😁 and improve their game. Theh did it with that tiny impact driver.
The lifetime warranty sold me too. And guess what else? Your gonna use it if you use and rely on those tools ever day. The sucky part is when you send the tool in and don't get it back until 3 months later. I have a multi tool that I had to send in again and I haven't heard from them in at least 4 months. Let me tell you this. I bought a rigid tool kit about 4 years ago. Ive had to get the motor replaced in the impact and the sawzall. The hammer drill is a joke. The keeper screw for the chuck sheared off running an auger bit. And like I said the multi tool was a separate purchase-motor replaced under warranty, but don't expect to get anything back in less than 3 months!! By that time you will have bought another tool that is more reliable!
@GravvyTrain : I've had my impact and drill for years. Not one problem. Never had to send it in or nothing. Sorry for your troubles but so far I've had no troubles with my tools, also have there vacuum, and leaf blower. Still no issues.
It seems like they have realized that the feedback from your unbiased reviews and from other trade pros is imperative to their bottom line and survival of the company. The feedback that comes from your tool comparisons is so valuable to a company’s research and development. They ignored it for a while or maybe couldn’t implement it but it seems like they are now. That’s great for the tool industry. More competition pushes for better technology and better tools
I got into the ridgid lineup because of their octane line. A few months later ridgid drops octane. It’s hard for me to trust them. I switched over to Milwaukee. Thank god I wasn’t heavy invested yet. There is more politics in the power tools business than DC.
@@Toolboss0826 before switching over to Milwaukee I was seriously considering ryobi HP+one. I can see how someone just getting into the trades today would pick ryobi over ridgid. If ridgid doesn’t change the game and start coming out with deals that are attractive to force people on their line, i can see a future where ryobi starts eating their lunch if it isn’t already happening.
@@Toolboss0826 I just did that. Sold almost all my ridgid stuff I’ll just keep a couple around for a while probably (cordless vacuum and things like that). In Canada ridgid is terrible at supply and stocking produces especially new ones. We wait years. The Milwaukee stuff just feels more solid, is way smaller, seems better built and when on sale not that much more money. Also not tied to a single store to buy from.
@@jayhoughton558 I couldn’t agree more with you. Milwaukee is definitely smaller, lighter and way better built. Way more options and power is the same if not better. Ridgid should just drop their cordless line and focus on vacuums and plumbing tools how I always remember them. Ik emerson still makes the plumbing line but still. Milwaukee is king of tools. My dad owns dewalt and the drills are so bad the chucks don’t stay closed and the bits fall out. Now my dewalt top of the line impact driver has a collet issue. Not surprised tho. It’s super shitty.
I've loved Ridgid for their warranty and battery policy. All of my "money maker" tools are Ridgid. I was deeply disheartened by the death of Octane. And I started courting other brands and ecosystems to take up the slack. I'm glad to see them taking on some direction and hopefully they'll fill out the missing parts of their tool ecosystem soon. I'm looking for a right angle impact ratchet for automotive work... their high torque and mid torque, as well as their lights are indispensable in what I do and I put a lot of hard miles on my tools and they keep kicking. Hopefully they take on your criticism and continue to advance.
As a professional the Ridgid Miter box is not something I would ever buy. Took mine back, very inconsistent cuts even at 90 degrees. The cuts were all over the place. I have an old Ryobi that cuts 90 after 90 after 90 all day, dead on. Ridgid also does not offer the same selection that their sister Milwaukee does. So, at this point I am going over to Makitia. The quality is there, and they give you a great variety equal to Mil or better. I stayed with Ridgid for the last 8 years. Now, for a tool company to fall on their face with a poor miter box design, they are not competent, how did you let this happen?
Never had much luck with a lot of Ridgid's electric tools outside the shopvacs. Company I worked for bought 2 new Ridgid impacts, and both blew a grease seal after a few days of screwing down 1/8" cladding on a roof. Meanwhile my Dewalt impact kept chugging. Not as much torque but it never skipped a beat and made them buy me a new battery to keep using it on that job.
I'm an industrial electrician and I use Dewalt, Milwaukee, and Ridgid everyday.. I like Rigids pipe cutting, fitting, threading tools.. I have alot of Ridgid tools including a compact bandsaw that I use and absolutely love.. it's so nice to have a great bandsaw that can do the job..
Octane impact wrenches are the bomb. The subcompact I can attest to it being pretty garbage, and considering the other two new tools I own I don't expect the new impacts to be much better. It is very sad considering Ryobi just released a fairly compact beast impact. The new Ridgid impacts that are coming look similar to it but for some reason I am just not that excited as I believe they are probably going to be weaker than the Ryobi which puts them way behind the Octanes. How the heck do you go backwards with nearly you whole lineup.
You could clearly see the dewalt was cutting through the knotted side of the wood 🪵, dewalt was winning both times until it hit the knots and basically stalls hmmmm fair test I think not lol.
Yes, but it looked like it missed the knots both cuts. Regardless of the knots, it looked like that Rigid cut faster to me. I still prefer Milwaukee for most of my tools.
@@BRENDANTHERED I was a huge red man but unfortunately over the last few years whilst the performance has increased the reliability has been appalling, yet my yellow never fails it's a shame as they were once the king of cordless.
Been in the trades a long time. I’ve had fast tools and I’ve had long life reliable tools. In the end I prefer long life reliable tools. Most the guys I’ve worked with also prefer long life reliable tools over the high performance but short lifespan tools. Once a main tool goes down the down time kicks in until the replacement tool comes.
Well I mean when a main tool goes out on us we just run to Home Depot or a supply shop so it doesn’t shut us down but a little bit but I understand what you mean I’ve had my hammer outlive all the others workers because I got a stiletto and they got a cheap hammer.
My bro just went on about how he is all in on Ridgid now because they have lifetime warranties even on their batteries! That's pretty amazing but I still like DeWalt more
Tell bro to read the terms of the warranty and file all paperwork, you have to go online, preregister then mail in box labels and copies of the receipt, if not it's only 3 yrs.
I'm on the ridgid 18 v platform for drills and small impact drivers. i just got the 16 and 18 gauge nailers. I'm in a wood shop and I am the only one using them. They seem fine for what I am doing. when i expand i will likely go Makita
And with different wood grain clearly visible to the left of the knot only on the non rigid side. Go back and watch it again. You will see both saws are side by side till he hits the darker area.
Many guys in our shop bought ridgid tools and switched over to milwaukees before the ridgid ones hit their 1 year mark. Many said they wished they had bought red to start with. My position is this...battery, go red. Corded go yellow. Its been mostly a good recipe so far.
I agree completely. I’m in the green line but I started upgrading last Black Friday. Dewalt 12” sliding compound miter saw w stand (Lowes deal thank you Vince!). This year I’m looking for the Dewalt 10” table saw (w rolling stand) and going to get into the Milwaukee 18v line.
Immediately after the initial "honest feedback moment" it went straight to HOME DEPOT MAN talking up rigid, I was turned off of anything said from that point. Also, that demo on the recip saw was crazy. You're telling me that the dewalt stopped making progress for no reason, twice, at the same spot on the board? And the tools didn't swap places, just operators... Lotta bull going on.... and it smells distinctly like a paid puff piece
Noticed in the right angle drill demonstration you have the exact same POS plastic chuck that Dewalt has. How much more would it cost to use a good quality metal chuck? In Dewalts defense, their right angle drill is brushed, and not an xr tool, I am hoping they introduce a brushless xr soon!
Is that circular saw available? I'm on ridgid platform and honestly have liked them so far. Went from commercial work using milwaukee and now doing handyman stuff with my own business. I wanted a mid tier decent tool kit at a good price to start with. Ridgid answered that call. The new impact and drill is competing with my milwaukee fuel. I just bought the octane 7 1/4 saw yesterday and feel the 6 1/2 saw would be a much better option (more compact and better design it looks like). Now I regret buying the octane. Hoping the 6 1/2 is released in time for me to return the octane and get the 6 1/2.
This video got me hooked on your channel. I love your positive attitude and desire to teach others which benefits everyone. My boss had pulled me into his office awhile back and wondered why I wasn't as Gung-ho as when I first started working for the company. At the time my mind went blank but after thinking about it I can now answer the question. As time progressed at the company I noticed that my manager and co-workers were not very helpful. They didn't tell which basic tools I needed to buy and seldom was there any training provided. I don't work in construction but it doesn't matter what trade it is. People with knowledge should help their co-workers so everyone benefits. Jobs get done quicker with less re-work and that translates into a company saving money and making the business more successful. Instead of my manager looking down on me for not having a high skill level he should instead focus on improving my ability to the job right with the correct tools so that as time progresses I can pass on knowledge to the new guy and the next generation. God bless you for inspiring me to be a better employee.
I love ridgid for the batter warrenty. But you should have switched the blades on the recip and right angle drill to check for duller bits on the dewalt
They're gonna be jacking up prices to where you'd ask yourself: why buy a budget tool for the same price as a Red or Yellow? $129 for their right angle? Or $129 for the m18?
Mmmmm.....the dewalt hangs up in the same spot. I've had a few Ridgid tools at different times. The only thing they had in common was I gave them away within a month after purchase.
Yeah, ya think it was the knot? It was completely obvious that knot was the diffence. Rigid had clear pine material and the dewalt had a nice dense knotty portion. Surprised Vince didn't call BS on that.
I run Dewalt and Ryobi. I'm a handyman and my primary tools are Dewalt and tools that just make my life a little easier every once in awhile are generally ryobi. I think we all understand that it's really about the battery platform at this point, and not wanting to have to buy into that part. This was a great video and I hope Ridgid pushes the other brands with their offerings. But I doubt I'll be going orange any time soon. Thanks Vic
I'm a Milwaukee guy, but fell in love with Ridgids sub compacts. My only gripe is the battery to tool ratio Battery is freaking huge. Would love to see a new design with smaller batteries. Something along the lines of Milwaukee M12 line
I had craftsman 19.2 I ended going with Makita it sucks they don't have standard batteries like European tools do . How many battery platforms can you have .
Let's be real, The best tool ridgid ever came out with was the Stealth Force. And they discontinued it...
The stealth force was iconic!
Don’t believe us, watch this - Milwaukee M18 Fuel Surge VS Ridgid Stealth Force - Best Impact Driver Comparison! ua-cam.com/video/j4okfpkcEh0/v-deo.html
@VCG Construction It really was, It was a product that blew me away. And they need to get back to that if they wanna compete with these other brands.
Lets be fair - their shop vacs are truly 2nd to none:))
Dont know if the knot showed on your side but thats probably why the "sawzall" cut slower
This is exactly how a tool manufacturer could grow their market share, by listening people who are using their tools as a living and keep improving. Great job guys !
You're kidding, right? None of the three tools demonstrated in this videos are staples of a commercial worksite. Ridgid might as well be building blenders.
As a professional the Ridgid Miter box is not something I would ever buy. Took mine back, very inconsistent cuts even at 90 degrees. The cuts were all over the place. I have an old Ryobi that cuts 90 after 90 after 90 all day, dead on. Ridgid also does not offer the same selection that their sister Milwaukee does. So, at this point I am going over to Makitia. The quality is there, and they give you a great variety equal to Mil or better. I stayed with Ridgid for the last 8 years. Now, for a tool company to fall on their face with a poor miter box design, they are not competent, how did you let this happen?
A customer who constructively criticizes is pure gold. The customer that doesn’t say anything is the one you need to worry about.
You were invited there because they have clearly hired good leadership that is actually accepting criticism. I'll keep my eyes on rigid now and see what they come up with.
But didn't he basically say at the beginning of the video they were all butthurt (paraphrasing)?
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"a seat of rigid orange plastic"...
..that's a copy and paste definition...Rigid is stuck in the same crap form it's always been
This is ALWAYS. and I mean ALLLLWAAYYYSSS when a company starts to turn around. When the execs actually give a shit about delivering GOOD products that people actually want. Instead of having an, "Oh people will buy it anyway so whatever" attitude.
@@aerball my thoughts exactly. When the CEO is focused on the customer and not shareholders, those are the best run companies! Tells me a lot about the Rogid company!
Yeah the CEO clearly has the right mindset. You invite your honest critics not your die hard biased supporters.
I actually switched from Dewalt to ridgid after replacing several dewalt tools in a short time from use. I absolutely love Ridgids line of tools and they work very well for me the last 6 years or so. Having said that, this is nothing but good news and great constructive criticism going forward.
I agree 100%. I cannot see paying 2 or 3 times more for a tool that will get the job done just as good as the other. None of my clients have ever come up to me and said, "You did a really nice job remodeling our place, but it would have looked so much nicer if you had used DeWalt or Milwaukee." LMAO
My buddy at work keeps trying to get me over to Milwaukee. Yet my older generation rigid tools the Gen 5x brushed models have more power than his brushless models. And I paid half as much for my 5 piece combo set on sale for 250 bucks he paid $500 for his high torque Milwaukee impact wrench. The only reason I could see going Ryobi or Milwaukee or even Makita is if you need more tools than the basics. Circular saw reciprocating saw impact driver impact wrench drill driver. If you need more than those then by all means go somewhere else with a wider variety but as far as the basics go rigid offers a great lineup for the basics that most prosumers use. Every house project I've been able to complete with rigid tools and they get me very far at work fixing tractor trailers. The only thing I really need is a high torque impact wrench.
@@Techprep23 I just got the Rigid 600 ft/lb impact wrench and it works great. Black Friday is coming up at home depot, GREAT time to collect some Rigid tools for cheap cheap. Not even on Black Friday are the DeWalt or Milwaukee tools on sale. It's ridiculous how much the want for the them.
Funny, we switched from Rigid to Metabo for framing guns since all the rigid ones generally wore down pretty fast…. It’s been like 8yrs since tho so maybe they’ve improved the year and wear in the framing/finish gun lineup … but for now we’re still Metabo fans
Samesies
Ridged should have stayed with the octane line and upgraded the current tools like every other brand has done and not make a whole new line that only has a few tools. The octane tools had potential
As someone who bought into the octane line. I wholeheartedly agree!!!
Sure man the high torque is one of the best impact wrench and destroy anything i throw a it and the grinder is amazing with a 9ah
I agree
Sold All my Ridgid after they didn't keep the octane stuff continuing... Moved onto DeWalt & Bosch . Just got sick of Ridgid .
Well if they switched sides on the board instead of saws we would’ve seen a different outcome. Its a lot harder to cut through yellow grain than the light which is why it slowed half way through. Look at the color of grain when it slowed down
Yeah I agree I saw that immediately (no pun intended)
That pine with knots and sapwood on the one end of the board is twice as hard to cut as the clear almost quarter sawn end. They should have swapped ends for a true comparison.
I think they should have swapped blades too.
@@underwearrr yeah definitely. Not positive but it almost looked like a more aggressive, bigger tooth blade. But maybe not
I'm sure VCG knows that too which makes you wonder why he didn't call them on it if it was a genuine comparison but instead participated in false advertising.
I love how the dewalt is going through knot and the rigid gets the clean pass on the recip saw.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that. Vince was totally set up on this deal and it really pisses me off
I noticed that too lol
Yeah they should have swapped sides
Those tests were a total setup overall. I want to see full batteries on both tools, new blades and same wood in addition to the same force. Using a dull blade on the competition is a classic on trade shows.
And that drill was a comparison between brushless and brushed, may as well not compare it at all.
the Ridgid has a much larger stroke length and runs a faster stroke per minute. The thicknesses of the board is the reason Ridgid performed way better better. the board was thicker than DeWalts stroke length but not the Ridgids. Ridgid could clear the chips DeWalt couldn't. if they were cutting 2x4s it would have been much closer. Ridgid would still win though.
That heartwood on the dewalt side of the 1x8 is so much harder than that Clean wood on the rigid side. That board was certainly cherry picked.
I'm disappointed he didn't catch that and ask to switch it up. It was clearly ahead untill it hit there and then came to a dead stop.
Good pick up.
That's the first thing I noticed
Sure was a setup
I owned both. The De Walt is way longer lasting and faster. With that said the ridged is fine for the amount of cuts needed on a roof.
Refreshing video. They really do look promising. Rigid does do a lot of things right like you said, but there has always been better options for the same money. Now that they are attacking their flaws I see them becoming a much better option. Thanks for the video and thanks to Rigid for being fair about things!
As a contractor I went to Ridgid many years ago specifically for the lifetime warranty. To date they are yet to repair or replace a single defective tool. I am now switching everything to Milwaukee.
Milwaukee, Ridgid, and Ryobi are all owned by Techtronic Industries. Based in Hong Kong.
I switched to DeWalt just to support an American company.
@@vwr32jeep dewalt is assembled in the US with chinese parts.....
With 40 years of experience with power tools i can say this. I want a tool that performs and is well made. I grew up around Black and Decker, Skilsaw Porter Cable and Milwaukee. Today some of these brands are junk. They have been bought out by mega tool companies. If the tool is well made and durable it will stand on it's own no matter what brand it is.
And what brand do you recommend??
Now or today all big name of tool Made in China with low quality parts ( the 1st important Production low cost ) . I have Dewalt Made in England and USA . Hitachi Made in Japan , Milwaukee Made in USA and all have more the 15 years and still works.
Metabo
@@rubenmv91 I do some research before buying a tool based on it's brand name. I recently bought a worm drive. It's a skil saw mag 77 based on reviews from the essential craftsman UA-cam channel.
So true
I have Ridgid, Ryobi, and Milwaukee (the TTI trifecta) and just picked up a Makita saw the other day. I don't use any of them often/hard enough to run them into the ground. So, I can't say which is the best value. We nitpick differences between brands, but I'm just happy cordless tools have become the new standard. I love them all!
Yeah batteries have really come a long way these past few years.
I worked in the trades a long while, and mostly Dewalt and Milwaukee held up. I scorched my makita set, worked side-by-sede with with guy who went ryobi, and they were about the same as makita. Now, out of the trades, 8 have an M12 set from Milwaukee, which is more tool than most homeowners would ever need, while being comfortable for people whose hands aren't anywhere near as strong as tradesmen hands.
DIYer here. I just upgraded all of my old power tools to DeWalt. Ridgid was considered but quickly disqualified because the power tools are just too big and too blocky. Love the boxes and the vacs. Good to see they are going more compact.
I have many and don't mind the shape or weight. I really prefer their grip to others not only because of the texture, but because as a professional user they do not seem to seperate from the handle as bad as the dewalts or milwaukees. Don't missunderstand with enough use they still get loose but it doesn't seem to be right on the front seam of the grip like the other two, its usually on the back around the thumb / pointer area.
Otherwise I would agree that they are often bulkier or heavier in some instances than the others. It just doesn't seem to bother me I guess because the grip feels better making it less noticeable.
Funny note though. There subcompact drill is only slightly smaller than the Gen3 Milwaukee fuel lol. If I were looking for weight savings out of the 3 I would have to pick the Dewalts. They are light and although I don't prefer the smooth grip they are still very ergonomic. The grips on Milwaukees are about the same but their tools are a little on the heavier side, however they generally make that difference up in power.
I'm a dewalt guy. But if another tool maker comes out with a tool that dewalt doesn't make ill buy it. I just got there new dcf923 atomic haven't used it yet but can't wait to.
Ik I'll be in the minority but I consider every other power tool over dewalt. Every work place I've been at has dewalts and they've always been complete shit. Especially their impacts. They've never lasted.
Apprentice here, one of the guys I work with uses rigid here in Australia it’s called AEG. Two days ago we went through 3 batteries with 1 bar of charge left and none would power the leaf blower. He then discarded a fourth battery with 3 bars because it was faulty.
Not sure if we’re talking about the same brand here but I can see where Vince is coming from,
He’s in what you might call a pickle of a situation. Don’t envy you at all Vince, glad you spun it to the brighter side though you’re a gentleman.
I use Ryobi and when I need something awesome I am into M12/M18 and so far it's the perfect way of doing things.
You're the man Vince! Glad I found the VCG channel because your honesty is what I love.
Awesome! Some people love that about me and some hate me for it,.. Thank you!
As somebody who didn’t get into the Ridgid lineup until their octane mid-torque impact wrench came out, I had serious buyers remorse after they discontinued the octane lineup. It was at that moment I jumped to Milwaukee, though I still have my octane impact wrench, angle grinder, and four of the 4 aH octane batteries. It would be nice to see more offerings and a stable platform.
TOTALLY AGREE re "A STABLE Platform!!"
Bro, I'm glad you did this... I've been a ridgid tools due to price points but Dewalt tools seem to be the standard. Glad to see that Ridgid is moving the needle forward with performance and quality. Their lifetime warranty has been one of the main reasons I've stuck with them. I agree with everything you mentioned in the video.
That's probably a good leader with faith in his product. Inviting in someone who's not a fanboy rather than preaching to the converted.
After years of supermarket brands, I've recently started my own professional collection and it's primarily Makita, so I won't be buying. But I think that strong competition is healthy.
I am the biggest Ridgid tool fan, over 60+ registered tools. What got me deep into the brand was the Octane line, and now I feel like the line has been neutered. Octane discontinued, Megamax discontinued. I feel betrayed after the large financial investment I have made. Ridgid seems to be becoming a orange painted Ryobi, I did not buy into the brand for entry level tools and that is what they are becoming sadly.
I didn’t realize they discontinued the octane line, granted I’m not super deep into it with just two tools and three batteries but that sucks
I KNEW IT!!!!!! My evil twin said he could not help me last week cause he had something to do. Now I see it was because he was HANGING WITH YOU!!! (HE REALLY IS EVILLLLLL!)
Your evil twin knows who to hang with to have a good time!
Your twin might be in cahoots with the gnome.
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That dirty cuz. He is a trader!! 99% of cuzzos do t know about your evil twin
@@kentuckybeardsman 99.999999999.99999% don't knownhow hurt I am right now Kentucky 😢
Thoroughly enjoyed your comments. I felt your truth.
I ran Rigid tools for quite a few years…they always seemed like they weighed 2x as much as the higher end lines, but the price was right especially when it seemed like they were always clearancing out a line at the depot. However, I got sick of spending more times waiting for my tools to get serviced that I made the switch to team red. Should have spent the extra money day one!
Great point. We shouldn't need to use a lifetime warranty, but if we do, it should be fairly painless and quick.
I liked Rigid long long ago The tool felt like quality in my hands. Over the years I have changed to using multiple brands other than dewalt and rigid. Depends on the application for what tool ill break out. If I had to pick one brand it would prolly be makita, With ryobi being second. IMO ryobi used to be junk now I like them.
As a professional the Ridgid Miter box is not something I would ever buy. Took mine back, very inconsistent cuts even at 90 degrees. The cuts were all over the place. I have an old Ryobi that cuts 90 after 90 after 90 all day, dead on. Ridgid also does not offer the same selection that their sister Milwaukee does. So, at this point I am going over to Makitia. The quality is there, and they give you a great variety equal to Mil or better. I stayed with Ridgid for the last 8 years. Now, for a tool company to fall on their face with a poor miter box design, they are not competent, how did you let this happen?
Hey Vince, I've seen a couple of your video's before and this one had me subscribe. I do a lot of research before I buy anything and knowing that a tool company can change with a new line-up is awesome. Buying a pc of crap is the last thing I wanna do. We don't know, what we don't know. The honesty is appreciated.
Im not on the Ridgid platform but I'll be cheering on their success. Ridgid's new offerings will help drive innovation, competition and ultimately improve their customers end user experience. Those demo's were impressive! Have an awesome night! 👍
As a professional the Ridgid Miter box is not something I would ever buy. Took mine back, very inconsistent cuts even at 90 degrees. The cuts were all over the place. I have an old Ryobi that cuts 90 after 90 after 90 all day, dead on. Ridgid also does not offer the same selection that their sister Milwaukee does. So, at this point I am going over to Makitia. The quality is there, and they give you a great variety equal to Mil or better. I stayed with Ridgid for the last 8 years. Now, for a tool company to fall on their face with a poor miter box design, they are not competent, how did you let this happen?
It’s hard taking him seriously while wearing those glasses, lol
Like they say “two’s company and three’s a crowd.” It’s hard managing three separate tool lines and maintaining a purpose for each. Back when Ryobi was blue and didn’t have as large of a line of tools and was what Chaka Gillis thinks Ryobi still is, having the Rigid line made sense as a step in between Ryobi and Milwaukee. But the Ryobi line has become huge and the green so much better and Milwaukee’s prices are really competitive that there isn’t as much need for the middle step anymore in my humble opinion. Maybe they should stick to corded tools and vacuums where a lifetime warranty is more valuable?
Milwaukee's price is not all that great when you consider the top end ridgid octane tools meet them in quality and swap blows in perfomance.
No matter where you look they swap blows on many tools and Ridgid hi torque 1/2 impact holds the crown of the most powerful 1/2 cordless impact as tested By Torque Test Channel found here on youtube, which includes all models of 1/2 Milwaukee impacts which are intern more powerful than pretty much all others themselves.
The biggest thing ridgid lacks is variety which is funny considering the amount of other tools they release under their name in other countries which is AEG.
I would however agree That Ryobi is still on a Slope headed closer to the top day by day as their tools keep getting more features and more power. Their new mid torque impact is a monster. Leaving only a small space for ridgid to fit in. If ridgid continues to make tools like their newest line up though they may be swapping spots with Ryobi. Happy with all my Ridgids except for the three subcompact tools I own. The power is ok but the quality is, well it remains to be seen.
When Ryobi starts to swap blows with Milwaukee constantly then it may be time for ridgid to go. I guess Id have to go Milwaukee because I hate the old school style of the Ryobi batteries, they are terrible to store and pack out if you have a few
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r I completely agree with you on rye batteries. The HP line should have been in the new style of batteries and just include an adaptor to make them backward compatible. Total ball drop there.
@@billsedutto8824 Totally agree. I would love to pick up more of their line as they are getting strong and reliable enough for daily use given their variety and price. I just hate that with all other manufacturers you can stack the batteries in a box or cabinet etc. Not Ryobi though, you got to play a game of Tetris to get them to fit neatly.
Your right too, it would have been a good time to swap to a newer style. I agree it would suck to lose backwards compatibility but they could just as easily make an adapter like Dewalt did with their 20v max Lithium to 18V ni-cad tools. In 99 percent of cases considering the average buyer of most of the older Ryobi tools that would be just fine, especially if they made the adapter nice and thin so it would almost be unnoticeable when attached to the tool.
I guess it would suck to have to buy newer batteries but if your buying the newest tools you probably need to anyways to get the power gains of the newer tools. If your gonna cut the power in half with an old battery might as well just use the old tool.
The green line may have become huge, but its still TRASH. Ridgid all day over the green crap
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r I went out and got that 1/2 in. Octane impact and 3Ah batteries after that TT test. Sad to see Ridgid abandoning Octane power in favor of emasculated pretty-boy metrosexual mini-toys!
I have always been a yellow guy but I recently was looking for a smaller drill . I ended up getting the sub compact ridged . So far I am very happy with the overall performance . The ergonomics are good the weight is good and so far the battery life has been good . Last but not least the price point you can’t beat . I am already looking at the circ saw to make another pc of yellow stay on the shelf .
“Milwaukee won’t let us have the good tools”
Ridgid got straight up punished when their high torque impact wrench out performed the 2767. They had to discontinue it, and basically come out with a rebadged ryobi high torque.
A few years back I moved almost 100% to Rigid, starting with a Black Friday Bundle. There are other brands that have better/more offerings, which is the downside of Rigid at times. I felt like DeWalt and Bosch had lost their edge, performance, and quality. I didn`t have the money to go Milwaukee. I now have the money to go with any brand, but I am sticking with Rigid. I am not a daily power user but so far Rigid has not let me down. That being said, they all have their pros and cons. Nothing motivates a team more than seeing the guy that says, "I don`t like your product". Great videos.
I'll be honest. I've had their gen 5 brushless drill & driver for yrs without issues and absolutely put then through the ringer. If they took a shit I'd buy a new set same day without hesitation. Great battery life too. But a bit bulky with a 4.0ah. Can u confirm if they're produced in the same factory as milwaukee?
Bravo Vincent! You may have helped save the Rigid brand. Unfortunately, in today's world there's too much 'that's good' and not enough 'this sucks'. Companies cannot grow from good to great without some hard-swallowing moments. Well done.
I use Ridgid as my power tool platform because it does every I need to do at home.
Thank you for awesome video VCG
I recently switched from Ridgid to Milwaukee, and seemingly at the right time. The Octane line was awesome, but their new lines just seem... slightly better than Ryobi
Same same. Really impressed with the fuel line so far
Fun fact, Milwaukee, Ridgid and Ryobi are all owned by the the same parent company, Techtronic Industries.
@@robertrandall9807 at any rate, they clearly put more into their Milwaukee line. Thanks 4 info, didnt know that. Dewalt/ black n decker marriage i was aware of.
Go look at a tool company ownership chart. Each brand is to fill a specific segment in the market, and each parent company had a tool brand at each price point.
You are a perfect example. Ryobi, Ridged/AEG and Milwaukee are all owned by the same company.
Having a customer progress ryobi - Ridged/AEG - Milwaukee like you have os the perfect outcome for the company
@@darcybarnes2716 cant argue w solid business plan!!
My only question is with a brushless unit you took a component out of the tool so how does that justifies the cost of it being more? Am I not understanding something here?
Ryobi 18V One+: Over 225 different tools
Milwaukee M18: Over 200 tools
Ridgid 18V: Altogether, about 56
Neither TTI nor Emerson have folks completely convinced that they are 100% dedicated to the Ridgid line. My first set of tools was Ridgid. Once my needs changed, I had to buy into other platforms. They're not bad tools, but they're not great, either. They're good, but it seems like they just cannot find their target customers.
I was thinking of switching to Ryobi from Kobalt (a rebranded Skil basically) because Ryobi has every tool under the sun to the point I wouldn't be surprised if they had a battery powered kitchen sink. However I've heard Ryobi isn't as durable in their construction as their competitors.
Waiting to see Ridgid response to Packout and others fitted tool storage systems. Bought a bunch of their 3 piece set and bucket, then started making my own kits with Kazan foam
Ridgid tools went to hell as soon as they got rid of their calendar.
Whatever Vince speak the truth.
We are tradesmen; our opinions on power tools should be treated like Gospel.
I remember when all the big brands were putting internet connections in their impacts and drills
. “You can open your Milwaukee app and check your performance in Real time!”
Or I could pull the trigger you monkeys and it will do the same thing.
“What professional tradesmen use an app to check their performance on their power tools”
I swear these marketing as designers have never been on a job site.
Tell them to make more modular storage. Some drawer storage to compete with Milwaukee and dewalt
I’d 2nd this. And I’d argue theirs is slightly more durable.
I like your channel. I've been watching for a couple of years now. You do a good job, keep it up.
Love how really excited they are about EVERY tool. I have a lot of Ridgid stuff and I’m not very happy with their new stuff.
As a ridgid user, I'll be completely honest. They have a lot of work to do and step it up. I'm glad after they took out the octane line they began to replace and also add more tools to their arsenal. What I want to see from them is to bring back their 12v line. Give the market competition against Milwaukee, competition drives innovation and and quality, different lights besides the 4 they currently carry, updated corded tools that have been in their arsenal for years! Their own driver and impact bits. Their own saw blades, more cabinetry tools like their old band saws, planers. Get into electrical! They have a lot of work to do but with them throwing the octane away they seem to finally have a set path for tools and what to make. I'm keeping my fingers crossed but only time will tell
The same company owns ridgid and millwaukee
@@keegannoel43 they own them yes, but it doesn't stop them from producing new tools. If ridgid Is able to bring in more users they will probably expand more of their line.
@@unclepungus7828 it's a Chinese company now. The only thing they care about is making the cheapest tools an charging as much as they can for them. I was a power tool Salesman for a year, now I am an electrician. Believe me the entire company is headed down hill.
No bro you speak your mind ...you were honest....coming years of experience in the trades and using tools....if they are offended then they dont care about its users opinons and how to better improve on them..
That’s the good part, they’re very receptive to the constructive criticism. They even admitted to being “off course” for a while and talked about how they’re working to “Right the ship”! Raj!
@@VCGConstruction Great news...there is still hope...i have their trim router as well works for me....keep up the great work.
@VCG...Yeah Vince, it's good that you keep the course and be true to your methodology given the time you've been in the trade. I loved when you threw the curve ball to ,(us), the viewer, and chucked one of the freshly unboxed tools right on to the ground, and said, " oh that's not what you were expecting?- well we do real scenarios with tools here at VCG."
Love that you really ask the questions that need to be asked to keep competition great and engineers on their toes.
I drill through steel all the time. Is that subcompact drill will get the job done?
These are the questions I wish you would have asked on camera:
Do you read the comments from my subscribers?
Do you realize how many Octane users are disappointed you discontinued the line in favor of smaller less powerful tools?
Can we test on camera here in the showroom with older Octane tools with a 3Ah battery against the new models?
Is it true the newer 6 and 8ah batteries will have 21700 cells and when will they become available?
Ps: did the Dewalts used in the demos have the new Dewalt batteries?
As objectively sound and reasonable as that request would be outright; and I don't know because I'm a stooge by comparison, but I'd imagine when you're invited to a facility by a company, that company is in control of all the variables, not their guests.
I don't think it'd be asinine to consider it's entirely possible that the inviting company requires NDAs to be signed and to review and approve all photographic pictures or video taken.
For me, it comes down to who is chosen to talk, is it their dual-major marketing and MBA, or their value engineer who was responsible for choosing what materials go where, and why.
I'd rather talk to someone about their issues with injection molding, than to someone who'd rather talk about their issues getting their products out the door, and cringeworthily try to sell them into your hand.
@@Keatononame13 that's why I appreciate torque test and project farm and other UA-cam channels that do comparison tests straight up with no b*******- is it actually a better tool? Do the actual results match your claims or not?
About 5 years ago I bought a Ridged 10" mitre saw on sale @ Home Depot, Never could keep the saw cutting square, the fence would constantly move on me, also finally realized the fence was bowed. Called Ridged to try to get a replacement, and was told that this particular saw was made by a different manufacturer that was allowed to use thier name, and I would have to contact them for warranty! Well that was $400 in the trash, now very happy with my DeWalt!
I have to agree with one of the other comments that there was a knot in that wood and up to that point there wasn't a difference. Also I'm sure dewalt will be updating their right angle drill ...the Dewalt brushed drill was barely a half second behind. It just seems like Ridgid dropped the ball about 2 years ago. Thanks for another good video though.
you know dewalt will raise the price.
I am not sure if Rigid was waiting for others to produce newer and more efficient compact tools so they could see where the market was going. Their drills still had a metal chuck which rubbed on surfaces and polished right up (it quickly looked worn) when others had unbreakable plastic chucks for years. It looks like they are catching up, or trying. It shud be noted that once a craftsman selects a brand of power tools he usually sticks with it because of the $1000 of batteries he has for it.
Word...
Thank God you actually gave a timeline for when the rigid tools quality seemed to take a nose dive, because I thought I must have been insanely lucky or something. I've had my rigid tools for around five years now, and not one of them has been bad, or crapped out on me. I work maintenance, and I use them every day, often, some of them, like my circular saw, sawzall and drill perform as well as other people's corded tools. The drill mixes mud like a corded one, and my sawzall is really close to my corded Bostitch one in performance. My finish nailer can pretty much keep up with the pneumatic one that my company has without having to lug around a compressor, and my circular saw rarely has ever bogged down, same as the corded saws I've used, and that's only when the battery is just about dead. So if what you're talking about is the uglier looking ones I've seen popping up within the last couple years, that makes sense, as they didn't seem to have the quality of the ones I already have. I also imagine that if there are issues with any of their products, said issues are more likely to pop up when used in a construction setting where they are used for their singular purpose all eight work hours of every day. While I am shooting up trim in a couple of apartments in a day, I'm not shooting trim every day all day, so I thought that maybe that's where people were seeing problems, but maybe it's just the tools from the last couple years?
I feel like there's a great opportunity for a drinking game here. Every time he feels personally attacked, you gotta take a swig, and when he says "gaping holes" you gotta finish your drink!
My issue is that when you are invested in a specific brand of tools changing brands is expensive and as a result not practical. The main reason is batteries.
You can adapt Milwaulkee and Dewalt batteries to Ryobi tools really easy. I do it for when I want something that Milwaulkee doesn't make (hot glue gun or 18V tire inflator).
@@GraflexGuy im invested in milwaukee and ryobi, I have milwaukee for when I'm doing more heavy duty things and ryobi for at home stuff.
@@GraflexGuy 3d printer? Or do you have some other method?
@@RyanBissell Amazon, eBay, etc
Did you bring your own tools for comparison or did Rigid provide the comparison tools?
I used to be a Ridgid guy because of their lifetime warranty until I tried to use it. It took 6 weeks for HD to replace a orbital sander. Replacing batteries is always a fight. The hassle is just not worth the “lifetime “ warranty.
Same here had a vacuum go bad read the life time service agreement said send it in and we will determine if it's a warranty issue. Same with there sump pump. There warranty/service agreement is a joke.
I can say the same about dewalt. Drove 40 miles for their belt sander, got home it was dead. Went to walmart and picked up a skill to get the job done.
This is a cool dud I appreciate all of your time and the videos u are very honest and open about what works and don't in your opinion and I just love its what I clicked to see and get it every time I watch what u post thanks again I'm a big fan 1000% keep it up man 👍👍!!!
You are my hero. I've expressed my concern with the brand...very recently on your videos. Because that's the platform I'm on and in the past year or so I personally see every power tool company looking like they are going forward where Ridgid seemed like it was stagnant or even going backwards. I hope they took what you said and used it as motivation.
I use my time with these companies to get answers for the #VeryCoolGang !
It's very much appreciated! You the man Vince!
I can tell you as an owner of some of the new ones that they are in some ways definitely going backwards. None of this stuff compares to the build quality or power of the octane tools. They have removed many features such as the light trigger frim the tools and are using inferior batteries compared to octane. Some of the newer tools do not have the octane tabs either and we are talking top models. I am angry at this change as I own a whole lot of their tools and batteries which the are obsoleting with crap to replace them with.
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r I agree to this
As far as most of these new offerings they've done a great job. The negative is the 4ah max output. The 3ah octane is a beast of a battery. They should have used 21700 cells on the 4ah max output. The hammer drill is way less powerful than the octane version, the biggest negative out of these new tools. The next bad was the octane high torque impact wrench vs the new high torque impact wrench. But I will say that the new 6ah max output and 8ah max output will be better batteries than the octane because of the 21700 cells. So at least an upgrade there. So it's only a few negatives. But the hammer drill was the biggest travesty out if this.
I'm curious to see if you ran the same tests but switched the blades/bits. For example the test with the Sawzall.
Love Ridgid tools -- best grips out there, sound good, great batteries. I bought nearly every one of their tools for the LSA -- use almost all of them regularly -- but have basically never needed it. With few exceptions they're high quality tools at a great price. Ridgid for 18V, Milwaukee for 12V. No regrets.
Agree 100%
couldn't agree more!
As a professional the Ridgid Miter box is not something I would ever buy. Took mine back, very inconsistent cuts even at 90 degrees. The cuts were all over the place. I have an old Ryobi that cuts 90 after 90 after 90 all day, dead on. Ridgid also does not offer the same selection that their sister Milwaukee does. So, at this point I am going over to Makitia. The quality is there, and they give you a great variety equal to Mil or better. I stayed with Ridgid for the last 8 years. Now, for a tool company to fall on their face with a poor miter box design, they are not competent, how did you let this happen?
@@hdvictoryford5329 What's a "Miter box"? Haven't used those in 30 years. Ridgid's new rebranded Delta miter saw definitely has some cut-consistency issues, hopefully they'll fix it because otherwise it's a great saw. I just got the 18V sliding miter and did some tests and it actually does quite well -- almost no lateral play at full extension -- very happy with it so far. Probably why they called it the "unicorn" for awhile while it was backordered. And yes, Milwaukee and Makita have wider lines, but they don't have an LSA and they're more expensive. If you need a wide line and have plenty of $$, go Milwaukee unless you're already invested in Makita. But if Ridgid carries the tools you need, and you have a budget, Ridgid's been a pretty great value. (No, I don't work for them.)
@@acecabezon What is a miter box. You got to be joking. That is how a carpenter learned. These new Miter saws are just updated versions of a miter box. And Junior I don't worry about semantics, my old Ryobi is dead on after being thrown around for over 20 years. And the original cost, 49.95. For what you have to pay for this by comparison, well just say they are pretty, and a real POS. And to say there is no lateral travel, well you must be a gentle soul, lol. In the real world these new saws have lateral travel with very little effort. If your engineers can't design a saw that eliminates lt, it should not be made. Come on the job with some real life experience and you will quickly see why many have 3-4-or even 5 of these on a job. They are over priced and under engineered. And to pay that kind of money! Build it right and I will. This design NO! And what tells me this, Over 50 years of building experience, Skippy!
Ok why did the always press the button everytime a test was performed 🤔 just curious was adding or taking away from the other tools?
The point of Rigid is that I can walk into any Homedepot and get service, wither battery replacement or tool replacement right there.
That's right. To hell with Ridgid warranty when I can just buy another and drop the dead tool in the box and return it. We don't have time to wait for a repair
I would have liked to have seen them swap blades and ends of the bord. also how charged was each one, and where they both brushless with the same amp battery?
No joke!!! I have lots of respect for Ridgid. I do think they will fill those gaps.😁😁😁 and improve their game. Theh did it with that tiny impact driver.
I have 2 rigid impact guns a 3/8 and a 1/2 inch and other rigid tools I am very happy with them.
Any thoughts on their lifetime service agreement, I'm looking at at purchasing an orbital sander, it's between the Dewalt and Rigid.
The reason I go ridgid is for the lifetime warranty on there tools.
I did for the same reason until I figured out that Rigid doesn't warranty tools or batteries if they're used for commercial purposes. Did that change?
I buy dewault so I don't need the warranty.
@@chrisplummer8588 commercial purposes = management discretion
The lifetime warranty sold me too. And guess what else? Your gonna use it if you use and rely on those tools ever day. The sucky part is when you send the tool in and don't get it back until 3 months later.
I have a multi tool that I had to send in again and I haven't heard from them in at least 4 months.
Let me tell you this. I bought a rigid tool kit about 4 years ago. Ive had to get the motor replaced in the impact and the sawzall. The hammer drill is a joke. The keeper screw for the chuck sheared off running an auger bit. And like I said the multi tool was a separate purchase-motor replaced under warranty, but don't expect to get anything back in less than 3 months!! By that time you will have bought another tool that is more reliable!
@GravvyTrain : I've had my impact and drill for years. Not one problem. Never had to send it in or nothing. Sorry for your troubles but so far I've had no troubles with my tools, also have there vacuum, and leaf blower. Still no issues.
It seems like they have realized that the feedback from your unbiased reviews and from other trade pros is imperative to their bottom line and survival of the company. The feedback that comes from your tool comparisons is so valuable to a company’s research and development. They ignored it for a while or maybe couldn’t implement it but it seems like they are now. That’s great for the tool industry. More competition pushes for better technology and better tools
I got into the ridgid lineup because of their octane line. A few months later ridgid drops octane. It’s hard for me to trust them. I switched over to Milwaukee. Thank god I wasn’t heavy invested yet. There is more politics in the power tools business than DC.
I switched to team Milwaukee too. I will be selling my ridgid tools I have left cause my m18 surge is just a beast and so smooth
@@Toolboss0826 before switching over to Milwaukee I was seriously considering ryobi HP+one. I can see how someone just getting into the trades today would pick ryobi over ridgid. If ridgid doesn’t change the game and start coming out with deals that are attractive to force people on their line, i can see a future where ryobi starts eating their lunch if it isn’t already happening.
@@Toolboss0826 I just did that. Sold almost all my ridgid stuff I’ll just keep a couple around for a while probably (cordless vacuum and things like that). In Canada ridgid is terrible at supply and stocking produces especially new ones. We wait years.
The Milwaukee stuff just feels more solid, is way smaller, seems better built and when on sale not that much more money.
Also not tied to a single store to buy from.
@@jayhoughton558 I couldn’t agree more with you. Milwaukee is definitely smaller, lighter and way better built. Way more options and power is the same if not better. Ridgid should just drop their cordless line and focus on vacuums and plumbing tools how I always remember them. Ik emerson still makes the plumbing line but still. Milwaukee is king of tools. My dad owns dewalt and the drills are so bad the chucks don’t stay closed and the bits fall out. Now my dewalt top of the line impact driver has a collet issue. Not surprised tho. It’s super shitty.
I've loved Ridgid for their warranty and battery policy. All of my "money maker" tools are Ridgid.
I was deeply disheartened by the death of Octane. And I started courting other brands and ecosystems to take up the slack. I'm glad to see them taking on some direction and hopefully they'll fill out the missing parts of their tool ecosystem soon.
I'm looking for a right angle impact ratchet for automotive work... their high torque and mid torque, as well as their lights are indispensable in what I do and I put a lot of hard miles on my tools and they keep kicking. Hopefully they take on your criticism and continue to advance.
Cool perspective with the warranty side of things.
As a professional the Ridgid Miter box is not something I would ever buy. Took mine back, very inconsistent cuts even at 90 degrees. The cuts were all over the place. I have an old Ryobi that cuts 90 after 90 after 90 all day, dead on. Ridgid also does not offer the same selection that their sister Milwaukee does. So, at this point I am going over to Makitia. The quality is there, and they give you a great variety equal to Mil or better. I stayed with Ridgid for the last 8 years. Now, for a tool company to fall on their face with a poor miter box design, they are not competent, how did you let this happen?
Never had much luck with a lot of Ridgid's electric tools outside the shopvacs. Company I worked for bought 2 new Ridgid impacts, and both blew a grease seal after a few days of screwing down 1/8" cladding on a roof. Meanwhile my Dewalt impact kept chugging. Not as much torque but it never skipped a beat and made them buy me a new battery to keep using it on that job.
Awwwww
I'm an industrial electrician and I use Dewalt, Milwaukee, and Ridgid everyday.. I like Rigids pipe cutting, fitting, threading tools.. I have alot of Ridgid tools including a compact bandsaw that I use and absolutely love.. it's so nice to have a great bandsaw that can do the job..
Telling it like it is
Always!
2:00 I don't do carpentry, but did the DeWalt just slow down because it hit the heartwood?
The octane line was better than their new brushless, the new impact wrenches are a perfect examples
Octane impact wrenches are the bomb. The subcompact I can attest to it being pretty garbage, and considering the other two new tools I own I don't expect the new impacts to be much better. It is very sad considering Ryobi just released a fairly compact beast impact. The new Ridgid impacts that are coming look similar to it but for some reason I am just not that excited as I believe they are probably going to be weaker than the Ryobi which puts them way behind the Octanes. How the heck do you go backwards with nearly you whole lineup.
VCG Legend.
Well done and this is awesome to see. Rigid is going to have a bit of a Renaissance I hope...
You could clearly see the dewalt was cutting through the knotted side of the wood 🪵, dewalt was winning both times until it hit the knots and basically stalls hmmmm fair test I think not lol.
Yes, but it looked like it missed the knots both cuts. Regardless of the knots, it looked like that Rigid cut faster to me. I still prefer Milwaukee for most of my tools.
@@BRENDANTHERED I was a huge red man but unfortunately over the last few years whilst the performance has increased the reliability has been appalling, yet my yellow never fails it's a shame as they were once the king of cordless.
I switched from Dewalt about 2 years ago, I have never looked back
I use everyday I love the tools
Been in the trades a long time. I’ve had fast tools and I’ve had long life reliable tools. In the end I prefer long life reliable tools. Most the guys I’ve worked with also prefer long life reliable tools over the high performance but short lifespan tools. Once a main tool goes down the down time kicks in until the replacement tool comes.
Well I mean when a main tool goes out on us we just run to Home Depot or a supply shop so it doesn’t shut us down but a little bit but I understand what you mean I’ve had my hammer outlive all the others workers because I got a stiletto and they got a cheap hammer.
right angle drills are a must for making holes for pex and copper lines. We only have the huge milwaukee drill and it sucks using it all day.
My bro just went on about how he is all in on Ridgid now because they have lifetime warranties even on their batteries! That's pretty amazing but I still like DeWalt more
Tell bro to read the terms of the warranty and file all paperwork, you have to go online, preregister then mail in box labels and copies of the receipt, if not it's only 3 yrs.
I'm on the ridgid 18 v platform for drills and small impact drivers. i just got the 16 and 18 gauge nailers. I'm in a wood shop and I am the only one using them. They seem fine for what I am doing. when i expand i will likely go Makita
They are comparing to dewalts oldest tools
And small, low AH batteries
And with different wood grain clearly visible to the left of the knot only on the non rigid side. Go back and watch it again. You will see both saws are side by side till he hits the darker area.
did the dewalt have a full charge?
Many guys in our shop bought ridgid tools and switched over to milwaukees before the ridgid ones hit their 1 year mark. Many said they wished they had bought red to start with.
My position is this...battery, go red. Corded go yellow. Its been mostly a good recipe so far.
I agree completely. I’m in the green line but I started upgrading last Black Friday. Dewalt 12” sliding compound miter saw w stand (Lowes deal thank you Vince!). This year I’m looking for the Dewalt 10” table saw (w rolling stand) and going to get into the Milwaukee 18v line.
Thanks for the video it reminded me that i still after almost 6 months have not received my replacement batteries. I will be calling them tomorrow
Awww,
Look at Vince & Clint Playing Nice.
I warms my Heart!
Thanks Guys!
P.S. is that Recip Saw on the market yet?
Yes Redd!
the fusion impact driver is a very good tool. have you used it before?
Immediately after the initial "honest feedback moment" it went straight to HOME DEPOT MAN talking up rigid, I was turned off of anything said from that point. Also, that demo on the recip saw was crazy. You're telling me that the dewalt stopped making progress for no reason, twice, at the same spot on the board? And the tools didn't swap places, just operators... Lotta bull going on.... and it smells distinctly like a paid puff piece
Sawing thru the knots in the board didn't help DeWalt. The Ridgid had clear wood to cut thru.
I agree
Would cutting by a bunch of knots in the wood slow things up?
But you gotta give ridged props for not spray painting the dewalt tools. RIDGID has my respect for that
Noticed in the right angle drill demonstration you have the exact same POS plastic chuck that Dewalt has. How much more would it cost to use a good quality metal chuck? In Dewalts defense, their right angle drill is brushed, and not an xr tool, I am hoping they introduce a brushless xr soon!
Oh and by the way how about a brushless 20 volt ratchet!!!!!!!!!!
Love how the dewalt had to cut the knot wood both times 🤣
that's the blade nothing else.
Is that circular saw available? I'm on ridgid platform and honestly have liked them so far. Went from commercial work using milwaukee and now doing handyman stuff with my own business. I wanted a mid tier decent tool kit at a good price to start with. Ridgid answered that call. The new impact and drill is competing with my milwaukee fuel. I just bought the octane 7 1/4 saw yesterday and feel the 6 1/2 saw would be a much better option (more compact and better design it looks like). Now I regret buying the octane. Hoping the 6 1/2 is released in time for me to return the octane and get the 6 1/2.
This video got me hooked on your channel. I love your positive attitude and desire to teach others which benefits everyone. My boss had pulled me into his office awhile back and wondered why I wasn't as Gung-ho as when I first started working for the company. At the time my mind went blank but after thinking about it I can now answer the question. As time progressed at the company I noticed that my manager and co-workers were not very helpful. They didn't tell which basic tools I needed to buy and seldom was there any training provided. I don't work in construction but it doesn't matter what trade it is. People with knowledge should help their co-workers so everyone benefits. Jobs get done quicker with less re-work and that translates into a company saving money and making the business more successful. Instead of my manager looking down on me for not having a high skill level he should instead focus on improving my ability to the job right with the correct tools so that as time progresses I can pass on knowledge to the new guy and the next generation. God bless you for inspiring me to be a better employee.
I love ridgid for the batter warrenty. But you should have switched the blades on the recip and right angle drill to check for duller bits on the dewalt
They're gonna be jacking up prices to where you'd ask yourself: why buy a budget tool for the same price as a Red or Yellow?
$129 for their right angle?
Or $129 for the m18?
Where do you go to these tool shows? How can i fund them?
Mmmmm.....the dewalt hangs up in the same spot. I've had a few Ridgid tools at different times. The only thing they had in common was I gave them away within a month after purchase.
What’s up brother, hope you’re doing well! 👍🏻
Yeah, ya think it was the knot? It was completely obvious that knot was the diffence. Rigid had clear pine material and the dewalt had a nice dense knotty portion. Surprised Vince didn't call BS on that.
I run Dewalt and Ryobi. I'm a handyman and my primary tools are Dewalt and tools that just make my life a little easier every once in awhile are generally ryobi. I think we all understand that it's really about the battery platform at this point, and not wanting to have to buy into that part. This was a great video and I hope Ridgid pushes the other brands with their offerings. But I doubt I'll be going orange any time soon. Thanks Vic
I'm a Milwaukee guy, but fell in love with Ridgids sub compacts.
My only gripe is the battery to tool ratio
Battery is freaking huge.
Would love to see a new design with smaller batteries.
Something along the lines of Milwaukee M12 line
I had craftsman 19.2 I ended going with Makita it sucks they don't have standard batteries like European tools do . How many battery platforms can you have .
He was 100% challenging his team. Says to me he holds your opinion in pretty high regard.
Vince keeping it real 💯....I really never tried any of Rigid tools...but honest opinions keep all of these manufacturers on point...
Good video, glad to see you being honest as you always are!
If a tool is a 1/2 slower but 1/2 the cost I'd go for it. What are their battery performance like?