PRS SE CE model JUST ANNOUNCED!!!🔥 HYPE or REAL?! A Fact-based analysis
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- PRS SE CE model just announced their new 2024 model: The SE CE. Let's analyse it based on the specs provided by the company. And compare it with the PRS' established model: The Custom 24.
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I gotta say- PRS SE CE are the only PRS guitars I would ever buy. The bolt on neck rescues them from the low mid emphasis that has always turned me off from these guitars. Can’t wait to try one out!
Just played one and definitely brighter than a custom 24...great guitar!🎸🎸🎸🎸
thanks for confirming this. Like I said in the video, makes every sense that it’s brighter
I owned TWO PRS SE custom 24 guitars made in Korea in the mid 2000’s. They sounded great, played great. But then I left one in a hot/humid room for two days and the neck twisted like a pretzel. Since it was a set neck, it couldn’t be repaired and I had to throw it out and I was left with only one SE which now never leaves my studio. Having guitars with bolt-on necks gives me a LOT of peace of mind because when the guitar warps (in my experience of owning 20+ guitars), the neck is always the first thing to warp. So getting a CE with a bolt on neck in satin finish will make me feel much more comfortable gigging and traveling with than the CE.
@@Gabeconstantinemusic quick question: what do you mean hot/humid room? Where did you take it? Can you describe the room?
Thanks for sharing btw
I played one in store the other day, it could use a pickup/pots upgrade but it was flawless otherwise. Fit and Finish, especially fretwork was amazing!
good to know!
BTW, the SE Silversky neck has a scarf joint.
🤝🏼
It’s just another option for the customer. Why overthink it? I’ve never seen a bad review on a CE so I think it’s a great idea by PRS.
You maybe right…not gonna lie. The price point for it though makes me think they wanted to bring the OPEX down and make something cheaper than C24.
Some people just prefer bolt-on necks.When i was first starting out as a teenager in the 90s, i had this belief that set neck and neck through designs were superior, but owning and playing many guitars eventually disabused me of this idea. I don't dislike set necks, but I've swapped necks on bolt on guitars before and I like having that option available to me. So, everything else being equal, I'm going to generally prefer bolt-on necks.
That’s more than fair. I agree with you 100% that it all comes down to personal preferences. I have never swapped necks on the guitar so I got a question: Have you ever changed the neck from one wood type to the other? If you did, was the tonal/sound impact of any significance?
I've never swapped a neck with a different wood type. I mean, bolt-on necks are almost always maple. On the other hand, i've swapped thin necks with thick necks and vice versa, and the thickness of a neck definitely makes a difference in how the guitar sounds. I swapped the neck of my 62 AVRI strat, which had a thin 60s neck, with a newer American Original 60s neck, which is quite a chunky neck, and it made a big difference in the way the guitar sounds. It's not necessarily "better", but it sounded '"deeper", warmer, and sustained longer. Warmoth's channel has a video (titled "Does Fat Neck = Fat Tone?") where they compare a thin neck and a thick neck on the same guitar and you can definitely hear a difference.
I used to own a CE24 - solid black with dot inlays, just like what Alex Lifeson used to play in the mid to late 90s. It was a geat guitar. I'm not really into flame tops and bird inlays so that one really appealed to me. If PRSE made some SE CEs in solid colors and dot inlays, I would pick one up. But that's probably not happening.@@mr.sorenzo
@@masatanida9119 bang! I’ll check it out! Thanks for sharing pal!🥃
OK I'm going to comment here....I think PRS adding the CE24 to the SE lineup has to do more with filling a need as to the best of my knowledge the only other set neck design they offered in the SE was the Silver Sky....everything else is a Set Neck design. I also like that is does not have a painted gloss neck.
As someone who has Fender, ESP, Jackson, Charvel and G&L guitars, I like bolt on necks better, I have owned set neck design guitars and while there is nothing wrong with them they just aren't my first choice.
This is why I have purchased my first PRS and it arrives tomorrow a SE CE24, I think that offering the CE24 in the SE lineup will attract more players like me who prefer a bolt on neck. I wont even get into the all the people trashing PRS over the SE CE 24 when most likely 90% of them have never even picked one up. And I would be willing to bet that in a head to head most could not pick out which guitar was being played in a mix. Take away peoples eyes and make them use their ears it would be very interesting to see the results.
Again I am not trying to ruffle any feathers this is just my opinion, yours may vary and there is nothing wrong with that. The main thing is if it attracts more people to the brand or to playing isn't that what its about.....It shouldn't matter if someone likes a $300 guitar or $10,000 guitar as long as its what they like, make them happy and they continue to play. Now if your talking about collecting and such that's a whole other ballgame!
Your comparison chart shows the CE24 having a Blade Pick up Switch. The CE24 in actuality has a 3 way toggle switch. The difference is big.
you’re right. it’s not a 3 way blade. It’s a 3 way toggle. I might’ve mistyped that one. Thanks for pointing it out.
Not sure if it’s a big difference though.
very well said!
firm handshakes 🤝🏼
People wanted an SE CE24. I PLAY a 91 and 94 CE24. My favorite guitars. I have 7 PRS. Cant beat that old alder/maple body with a bolt on maple neck. But I see your point. The core custom 24 has a mahogany neck but the SE has a maple neck. So similar. Good catch with the neck construction. I love that PRS released these. Mine is on the way actually. Ill really get to compare them all. Cant wait. Great price too
Sounds exciting! Thanks for sharing Lee and enjoy the new guitar!
These are a steal at $559 right now! The satin neck alone makes it worth it but the bolt on neck gives that snap. I already had a c22 SH a tremonti zm and Mira. I always wanted a ce but didn’t want to fork out 2k. I snagged the turquoise it was love at first sight. I tried to kill two birds with one stone. It’s my only 24 fret guitar.
That’s actually a pretty good price! They are downing the opex with this guitar 🎸 I’m hearing a lot of good things about it.
I never played a Tremonti. How does it compare to the CU24?
The tier list is broadly correct, but there are some different levels of US made models, which is why you can see some wildly varying price levels!
You’re right. Tbh I though that it will be enough for the purpose of the video. There are other tiers which they previously produced that didn’t fit any of the current three but discontinued at some point.
I just bought a CE SE and I tell you it’s way better than Gibson or Fender ! And stays in tune way better than those brands!
Agree with you a 100%. PRS has long passed Gibson and Fender in both quality and innovation.
The hype is real 🎉
Is it really? Why?
I just ordered a PRS SE CE24 Standard Satin and will take delivery next Tuesday. Yes, it looks very similar to the SE Custom 24 with the exception of the bolt-on scarfed neck, but the 'Satin' version further deletes the tiger stripe maple top for a plain mahogany body with a less labor intensive satin finish. All the other specs seem to be mostly the same as the SE Custom 24; all the stuff that counts. These cost reduction give the Standard Satin model an MSRP of $499.99, placing it dead on into the 'entry level' range. I've wanted to learn to play, but all the 'beginner' advice has been to get a good, playable out of the box guitar so you don't get frustrated by the shortcomings of typical 'affordable' guitars. I've seen a ton of "Here's a cheap Amazon guitar and what you'll need to do to make it playable" videos and I don't have the skills or tools to rework a questionable guitar or know if I was doing more damage to it or not.
I recently checked both se custom 24 and se ce 24 and even though the specs are similar there are two major differences
1. Se ce sounds a bit sharper / brighter like a strat (not a fan of the tone)
2 se ce fret board is a bit of a struggle when played on.
Se custom 24 sounds warmer and fret board is buttery smooth
great insight! thanks for sharing
Liked. Good work.
Thanks friend🤝🏼 Hope things are well! 🥃
I had an 88 CE 24 for 16 years and loved it. I don't like set necks and prefer bolt-ons. I'm going to get either the CE24 SE or the Swamp ash special or both! :-) Scarf joint necks are very stable as well my old one was scarfed and that neck was solid as a rock. I do like the multiply necks, especially the Ibanez and LTD necks with the different exotic woods but in the end I'm just a bedroom player so I don't need anything that fancy.
Thanks for sharing Jeff. That 88 CE must have been a treat!
@@mr.sorenzo it was an amazing guitar but at the time I needed a change.
@@Countachockula yeah 16 years is a pretty long time. Hats off to you for taking care of it well for that long
I have a CE24-08 (prs customized). It has a different tone and string response compared to my SECU24.
I think its great you have something that sits between the Secu 24 and se standard 24... and the tone difference. I'm thrilled. Wont be buying because I have a US CE. If I didnt Idd buy one. Currently the SAS looks temptin to me
Also the SeCe has a different neck body interface than tradional Secu24
@@shawnmcginnis2508 Thanks for sharing! Yeah the neck-body feels different on a bolt on neck.
@mr.sorenzo yup, well atleast on these. On the US CE24 it is the same fell as the glued on. These have an all new carve around the neck/body joint. Pretty cool. Hopefully it proves solid and we see the US core guitars head the same direction. Think it would help "modernize" the PRS design a bit more. 😀
The SE CE line is built to meet a price point. The SE Silver Sky in my opinion is overpriced because it's a signature model. The SE CE 24s are the best value. I've got one on order and will check the quality, fret level/finishing and setup when it arrives at the GC store. I've seen setups and neck relief all over the place. Being made in Java Indonesia in a tropical climate, shipped over the ocean all over the world to hot, cold, high and low humidity climates that's to be expected. I even checked the weather from the warehouse to the store and it's pretty moderate which is a good sign. A guitar that's been through a sub zero blizzard or 120 degree summer weather isn't a good thing.
The se ce 24 is less expensive than the se custom 24. In my book, that is great, and I'm getting one. BTW, I used to have a Core ce 24 and I regret selling it :-). But since I'm a bedroom player, the se type guitar is perfect for my needs.
Yeah, not a surprise. Like I said in the vid, likely one of the reasons for this guitar is to reduce the operating costs for the custom 24. But PRS is always high quality. How much cheaper the SE CE is in your city?
My question is fretwork difference?
Nice. Except, ive got to search the costs🤔.
So not quite worth ditching the custom 24 for the ce version I don't really want more twang tbh, I have a strat lol. But thats cool if it gives single guitar people more option.
interesting,getting one next week £549 uk unbelievable ,better than fender player range easlly ,that what prs are doing
Bang! Which color btw? I loved the purple quilt one
What is so innovative about a guitar with scarf / bolt on neck? I have several guitars ftom the 1980s exactly like that.
Not much. Which is pretty much what I said.
I agree with you on that
PRS ce is already an affordable option. I love PRS se line, but to me, a CE, SE seems unnecessary.
Yeah I hear you. I’m not quite sure why they did it either.
I own one, and it is a brilliant move. Plays phenomenally, the non-gloss finish is great, and is even more affordable than the SE Customs! I pick the SE CE up more than I do my SE Custom 24's (yes, multiple).
I'm not totally sold on the idea that multi-ply necks being more solid than scarfed. I have several sarfed necks that have never needed as much as a truss adjustment. Maybe I've lived a charmed life in that respect, as I live in a state that is rarher famous for having all four seasons in a day, large variations in elevation, but tends to be on the dryer side of things climate-wise. However, I've even took them to sea-level; again, no warping, no fret creep, solid. Of course, I also keep the same string guages on them too. I typically pit .010's on my guitars from .009 and the only guitar I've had to do any truss adjustment was my PRS SE, and that came about 5 years after I bought it. My basses on the other hand, (all with multi-ply necks) have needed truss adjustments despite having the same guages put on them.
Great points! Theoretically, multi-ply necks are more solid structurally. That said, the quality of the build and the wood matter too and possibly are the reason why this is the case in you basses.
Also there maybe other factors in the build of your guitars. Keep in mind, I’m comparing two guitars (24 and CE) from the same manufacturing factory, with the same wood type, that are so similar that their differences really come down to the points I mentioned in the video.
And by the way, there are necks that are the mix of the two: they are multi-ply necks but have a scarfed joint construction. In PRS SE CE the scarfed neck is a single piece
@@mr.sorenzo I get the point of the video. I too have a SE Custom 24-7 7-string. I adore it, despite it being the only guitar I own that has needed any neck adjustment. And yes, mileage may vary as far as the quality of wood is available. I'm just not fully sold on the science behind the claim that multi-ply necks are more solid, as my aforementioned experience states versus the claim made. I do appreciate the esthetic of the multi'-ply necks, and the ones I have played (guitar/bass) have felt great. I'm not looking to cast dispersion upon anyone who has, or uses multi-ply necks. I'm just saying that this choice is based purely on time and cost/strength is dubious on its face.
I hear you. Sure
That was the whole point of the CE, before the S2 line they where trying to have a low coast model 😅 until players pick-up and they actually prefer the Bolt on model (Alex Lifeson is the reason i got to have one)
PRS is trying to compete with Firefly 😎 I’ll pass !
😂 shots fired!
Yeah i dont really se the value of CE model to SE line. While it looks like be atleast 200 euros cheaper than custom model here localy its still in a wierd price range. While custom 24 SE has inflated during years( remembered it was like 800euros and now its more like 1000euros) its still more expensive cheap midrange guitar). But Standard has always been same and its value its insane. I find it wierd that standard models have neck binding while customs doesnt. Excpet the new quilted SE custom 24 model. CE is definitly cheaper to make but being on same price as custom 24 used to be , is not the best. But yeah best still way is to try them live and just go for the one which feels better/sound better. I do think CE neck will be nicer than the laquerd ones on custom 24.
I agree. The 24s are crazy good!
In what way do you think the SE CE neck is better? the overall feel or any specific attribute?
u forgot 2 mention the ce 24 (bolt on series) my friend... the one between core and s2. so they have 4 tiers of guitars, not 3...
CE24 is basically Core when you tier them base on quality. I’m not basing this on models (the McCarty or Eagle were excluded too). US made, same same core but neck is bolt on. Same with the black DW signature that I mentioned later in the vid. It’s a core
No point going into too much detail either. The video is about the new SE model and the tiers I mentioned do the job just fine showing where the SEs are in the food chain
@@mr.sorenzo fair enough. for me it makes sense not to subsume the ce 24 in the core line, especially because the ce 24 is intended to sit between core line and s2 price- and constructionwise. also the prs homepage seperates the lines like this. but u are right, it is a matter of perspective. cheers
@@frankthetank1589 Fair enough pal! Let’s shake hands on SE being the bottom🤝🏼
Tone wood in electric guitar is just a myth, all is a math in the pickups, strings possibly bridge and tuners. Wood maters in acoustic guitars where it resonates. Someone brought that into electric guitar world but here it barely has any inpact on the sound.😢
Thanks for sharing. I’m about 99% with you. I’ve actually done a detailed analysis here: ua-cam.com/video/hnLV_tpfEUw/v-deo.htmlsi=uL3iQ5wE9FzinbUo
Tonewood in electric guitars IS relevant because different woods have different densities that convey vibrations to create sustain and tonality.
As a guitarist over 45 yrs, 20 pro, I know for FACT you get more sustain and richer tomes from denser woods. Direct mounting pickups vs floating has effects as well as bolt on vs set necks. Still don't believe me? Put PAFS in a Strat and see if it sounds identical to a Les Paul. It will NOT.
Still don't believe me?
Listen to the difference between a Stradivarius violin and a cheap, new violin.
If tonewoods don't matter then go to a Guitar Show and try out different guitars on clean channels and test sustain and tone yourself.
Tonewoods indeed matter in electric guitars. Have you not ever consider why guitar manufacturers are not located in Home Depot parking lots near an endless supply of 2x4's from their lumber yards? 😂😂
@@therightisright8276 👍Yes! Exactly. Tonewoods indeed matter in electric guitars. To your point, years ago, when I told a legitimate custom guitar body builder what type of sonic charter I wanted from a new swamp ash Telecaster body, the legitimate custom guitar body builder then selected the exact season and weather conditions in which the tree was cut. I gave him the order and waited. This process yielded the exact sonic character that I had requested.
@@dennisl501 The wood has an impact on the sound, but it’s minimal in a solid body. The whole point of the creation of solid body guitars was to minimize the vibrations of the wood. Check out the link at the top pf this thread
Ok i owned a se custom floyd with the indonesian 85-15 ....
Them pups are a bit weak n souless .. that 's where they same money... i own a ce 24 with american 85/15 and boy it's night and day ... i used to own the same 7 strings Holcomb thingy and them alpha omegas were serious ... what i'm saying is ... u can cut cost n do stuff but the pick ups are the heart of a guitar .. it's ok to change tuners but that's as far as it goes .... i 'm blown away by the se dgt pups and i think that 's where the money went ...a proper set of humbuckers will always set u back with 300 pounds here in Uk so ....
I choose a guitar for pick ups and neck profile/wood period...
With my se dgt i had to get used to rosewood purely for the amazing pick ups ... had to return one because the rosewood board was too porous ahaha... i' m an ebony person or maple at a push...
That 7 strings has a great ebony board ...Prs seem to go more for rosewood throughout the line with occasional limited runs of maple or ebony like signature models like that dusty ....or Mr Holcomb...
I find indonesian 85/15 lacklustre ahaga