Is Pikachu ACTUALLY the best Kanto Starter? - Solo Pokemon Red/Blue Challenge

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  • Ranked 6th in my Top 10 Worst Pokemon for this challenge is is possible that Pikachu actually may be one of the best? Was Ash right all along?
    New Intro Music by Xander Morrison - / xandermorrisonmusic
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  • @hwoarangthedoorbell
    @hwoarangthedoorbell 4 роки тому +4738

    Don’t listen to people who tell you that speeding up the game is cheating. There’s absolutely no advantage that you gain over NPCs or other players by speeding up the pace. Don’t let legalists bully you into wasting your own time. Keep up the hard work, jrose. I’m loving these videos.

    • @justinnesbit3948
      @justinnesbit3948 4 роки тому +60

      hwoarangthedoorbell Idk, is argue that the game is balanced around the fact that you wouldn’t spend an hour leveling up. Say in a normal area leveling you’d spend 20 mins. With triple the battle speed, you’d probably still spend the 20 mins, but now you’re way higher level. I’m not calling it cheating, just saying it does make the game easier if you abuse it

    • @aidendavid2680
      @aidendavid2680 4 роки тому +392

      A video every other day is way better than every week

    • @sambridhathapa4313
      @sambridhathapa4313 4 роки тому +318

      @@justinnesbit3948 I cant speak for speedruns. But I have seen some people literally leveling up a magicarp for half a day in the normal gamespeed. They beat the game with the sole magicarp. So speeding up the game cant have much of an advantage rather than saving up this guy's time. I am for speeding up the game because in this particular series he will save a massive amount of time trying out different pokemons as starters.

    • @danielparker6406
      @danielparker6406 4 роки тому +211

      @YamiJustin don’t forget that’s he’s trying to stay at as low a level as possible. So he won’t be spending the same amount of time leveling faster, he’s be spending less time getting to the level he would have gotten to anyways at normal speed.

    • @ckillgore
      @ckillgore 4 роки тому +184

      Is it cheating if I watch these videos at 1.5x speed to save myself some time binging this series?

  • @IvyLeather13
    @IvyLeather13 4 роки тому +2228

    Speed ups are fine. Most don't even care about using a legit cartridge, don't sweat it dude.

    • @AwesomeMooseSmile
      @AwesomeMooseSmile 4 роки тому +107

      There's probably like one person who sees that isn't a legit cartridge and goes "FGSKRHTNDKRRNFQWNRN!?!?", but chances are they don't even watch this channel anyways.

    • @thatguy4996
      @thatguy4996 4 роки тому +97

      boom don’t you mean FGSKRHTNDKRRNFOWNRNI

    • @yawninglion1677
      @yawninglion1677 4 роки тому +85

      @boom Here's the thing my guy; I own all the games I play on emulator. I've played those cartridges hundreds of times. So why do I still use emulators? Randomizers; the games don't have enough replayability as-is because I'm always stuck with the same Pokemon. So I use emulators to make the game more fun for me, but I legitimately own the game, so I'm not robbing Game Freak of any money- they already got my money years ago for the exact same games.
      Forcing people to only ever use the actual cartridge, even if they own the games they're using ROMS for, is ridiculous. I'm trying to experience the game in new and fun ways that aren't possible on an actual cartridge. If you and your elitist standards want to complain about how horrible of a person I am, cool cool, but I see no issue with it and you picking fights with everyone in the comments is extremely annoying.

    • @andersfjeldvr9099
      @andersfjeldvr9099 4 роки тому +22

      @@yawninglion1677 I don't mind that people use emulators, but IF you want to play on genuine (ish) hardware with randomizer, you could get a flash cart and put those randomized roms on there. I've done it quite a bit for solo runs to get the right starter, playing on an actual Gameboy Advance SP, and I have to say it's alot of fun.
      Again, nothing wrong with emulators, just a tip in case you didn't know.

    • @yawninglion1677
      @yawninglion1677 4 роки тому +11

      @@andersfjeldvr9099 Neat, thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I'm very bad with tech, but it sounds pretty cool :)

  • @v1tr1us2
    @v1tr1us2 4 роки тому +1056

    “We use agility to boost our attack...”
    Oh gen 1.

    • @Rune_Winchester
      @Rune_Winchester 4 роки тому +25

      That actually works because in Gen 1 your base chance to critically hit is based on how high your speed stat is.

    • @gaberboo7434
      @gaberboo7434 4 роки тому +116

      @@Rune_Winchester base speed is used, not current speed for critical hit rate. Every state change reapplies all badge boosts

    • @LuMnOsITi
      @LuMnOsITi 4 роки тому +21

      @@gaberboo7434 Covered in detail in every single video, yet some people still don't understand 😂😂😂. If he didn't get it when jrose explained it, I don't think he's going to get it when you explain it either.

    • @alexpayne3287
      @alexpayne3287 4 роки тому +10

      idontlikethegeesethatgohonkhonk Princess Lunna Critical hits ignores the stats gained from the badge boost glitch

    • @tiagocardosom
      @tiagocardosom 3 роки тому +7

      @@alexpayne3287 Critical hits ignore every stat changes. Your and your opponents buffs/debuffs

  • @jasonsmith7530
    @jasonsmith7530 4 роки тому +358

    “The best part about finding out that you’re wrong is you don’t have to be wrong anymore.“

    • @FAFO.K7NG
      @FAFO.K7NG 4 роки тому +15

      Honestly this is a really good quote. Throw it on a shirt

    • @lukereilly9844
      @lukereilly9844 3 роки тому +10

      That's genuinely a good piece of wisdom

    • @isaacleillhikar4566
      @isaacleillhikar4566 3 роки тому +6

      @@lukereilly9844 Proff Oak needs to surrender his place.

    • @kevmasengale6903
      @kevmasengale6903 3 роки тому +8

      Words to live by.

    • @marystone1526
      @marystone1526 3 роки тому +6

      @@FAFO.K7NG I genuinely want merch with that phrase now.

  • @cereal7591
    @cereal7591 4 роки тому +984

    Wait, people tell you, the madman who literally made 2 solo Magikarp runs with NO SPEEDUPS, that using it in a 53 part series is cheating? Wtf

    • @ultralightjay7793
      @ultralightjay7793 4 роки тому +110

      I know right lol. The other runs i guess i can kinda understand the complaints, but expecting Jrose to complete 53 individual runs of Red/Blue at base speed? Please.

    • @galeforce3192
      @galeforce3192 4 роки тому +40

      People are only saying that because it's an emulator. I guarantee you if he did that with the GB Tower in Stadium, they would be perfectly fine with it.

    • @JD-xz1mx
      @JD-xz1mx 4 роки тому +10

      I don't have any issue with him speeding the game up, but this logic is upside down. The fact that he cultivated his audience with content that has no speedups means that it is highly likely for people to have an issue with using speedups.

    • @diablo.the.cheater
      @diablo.the.cheater 4 роки тому +35

      @Richard Davis No it is not cheating unless you are speedrunning, outside of speedrunning it is just moding but not cheating, as in you don't get advantages only quality of life.

    • @matthewferrantino9521
      @matthewferrantino9521 4 роки тому +2

      I am not angry at all. I am sad that my hero is getting tired. He has every right to speed up the game. I just would point out it would be PARTICULARLY FUCKING AWESOME if he NEVER sped up.
      He can take a break. I'm just going to be sad he chose to stop being insane.
      Crazy Guy was a straight G.

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread 4 роки тому +1022

    Speed up as much as you want! Although I personally don't use it anymore, I honestly wouldn't mind bringing it back. I always thought that the argument that it's cheating to use it is silly. I could see an argument saying that it takes away from the experience to some level, but it doesn't change the experience for the viewers and the video is for them, not the player

    • @xmgaming2444
      @xmgaming2444 4 роки тому +63

      I like seeing all the other poketubers commenting on each other's videos, giving each other advice and such. Makes it feel more like a community. Love your stuff MDB

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 4 роки тому +40

      Which Fossil did you take?

    • @DragoniteTrainer
      @DragoniteTrainer 4 роки тому +5

      I don't use it for original versions because I want to "feel" them, but I use it on every hack I play, and some are too much long even with speedplay.

    • @AwesomeHairo
      @AwesomeHairo 4 роки тому +8

      The problem is the constant bumping into walls and wasting time

    • @drusian2207
      @drusian2207 4 роки тому +5

      Ahhh it’s Mah Dry bread yaassss

  • @randomderp8457
    @randomderp8457 4 роки тому +291

    I love the image of Pikachu just seismic tossing a Rhydon around

    • @SoraDonaldGoofy99
      @SoraDonaldGoofy99 4 роки тому +24

      Pikachu piledriving a Rhydon. LOL.

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 2 роки тому +17

      @@SoraDonaldGoofy99 wrestlemania running wild, brother

    • @streetsurfer420
      @streetsurfer420 Рік тому +2

      I don't understand why he used TMs here but not in the Magikarp run.

    • @darkfiredragon3410
      @darkfiredragon3410 Рік тому +12

      @@streetsurfer420 Because a non-event Magikarp literally learns nothing outside of Splash and Tackle in gen 1; Jrose literally brings that up when describing the damn fish.

    • @H3XM4N1AC
      @H3XM4N1AC Рік тому

      pikachu seismic tosses mewtwo

  • @mortmortmort8908
    @mortmortmort8908 4 роки тому +330

    My strategy for Yellow was always "get a butterfree and level it until it learns confusion" and that solves the Brock problem for me.

    • @Jonatron101
      @Jonatron101 2 роки тому +49

      Rock problems require bug type solutions.

    • @cursedcat6467
      @cursedcat6467 2 роки тому +4

      @@Jonatron101 yes exactly bug types have good grass coverage but obviously that’s not gen 1 because I used the word coverage

    • @brysonrobinson8389
      @brysonrobinson8389 2 роки тому

      Oh man I never thought of that

    • @myeclecticself
      @myeclecticself 2 роки тому +9

      This comment is incredibly nostalgic.

    • @DanielHernandez-mi1tp
      @DanielHernandez-mi1tp 2 роки тому +35

      Capture a Mankey. West of Viridian City

  • @TheSaiyanPrincess89
    @TheSaiyanPrincess89 4 роки тому +838

    Speeding up the game isn't cheating. It literally just makes things go faster; it doesn't actually make the game itself any easier. You're fine. Don't let anyone bully you into wasting more time than necessary.

    • @petercarioscia9189
      @petercarioscia9189 4 роки тому +8

      You go grind for hours at normal speed and tell me playing at 4x doesn't make the game easier.

    • @IvyLeather13
      @IvyLeather13 4 роки тому +76

      @@petercarioscia9189 "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

    • @rossanderson4156
      @rossanderson4156 4 роки тому +116

      @@petercarioscia9189 why would you waste your life grinding for 4 hours when you could do the same grind in an hour? The answer is because you don't value your own time

    • @benevolentworldexploder5395
      @benevolentworldexploder5395 4 роки тому +35

      @@petercarioscia9189 You go play at 4x and tell me why you'd ever play the other way?

    • @rossanderson4156
      @rossanderson4156 4 роки тому +55

      @MillennialHonkey 89 no I 'literally' didn't prove anything he said. Spending more time doing the same exact task =/= it is any easier or harder. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THR AGE YOU ARE AT THE END OF IT. If it were harder to play the game slower, then why has no one done a 0.1x playthrough of the game for a challenge? Now unlike your own comment and try and actually articulate yourself rather than just spouting nonsense.

  • @chrisbage1834
    @chrisbage1834 4 роки тому +658

    glad he doesn’t have to press b after every level up to avoid evolving

    • @whiterblue5960
      @whiterblue5960 4 роки тому +43

      I was doing an only Geodude run in Pokémon Red and I accidentally evolved him and had to reset to where I last saved.

    • @cesarwitha_t
      @cesarwitha_t 4 роки тому +16

      @HettGutt If Weedle wasn't annoying enough.

    • @lisahenry20
      @lisahenry20 4 роки тому +10

      That's why if I try doing a challenge run, I let the pokemon evolve. I can't be bothered doing that for each level

    • @bridgeseller7004
      @bridgeseller7004 4 роки тому +15

      @@lisahenry20 Just give them an Everstone. It's almost in every game

    • @lisahenry20
      @lisahenry20 4 роки тому +1

      @@bridgeseller7004 true, I kind ouf forgot that was an item

  • @dubbz1356
    @dubbz1356 4 роки тому +467

    Jrose: "I've fought Bruno 25 times and only lost once"
    Me: Uh oh, that means 23 losses to Agatha/Lance/Rival

    • @williamhuynh869
      @williamhuynh869 4 роки тому +51

      He just needs one reality where he wins

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 4 роки тому +18

      I think he does major battles multiple times to see that it's consistent. I don't know if he uses save states in between elite four members to formulate a strategy and do that proving faster, but that would also mean that losing to Lance doesn't mean he fought all the others again.

    • @MineCat10212
      @MineCat10212 4 роки тому +43

      @@wombat4191 He has said in his other videos in the series that he does not save in between members of the elite four, so he has to beat all five battles in a row to complete it.

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 4 роки тому +5

      @@MineCat10212 Ah yeah he indeed did.

    • @kazemizu
      @kazemizu 4 роки тому

      I always saw Bruno as an exp snack

  • @amberhernandez
    @amberhernandez 4 роки тому +53

    "I never use Sky Attack on flying Pokémon. Like, who would use a two-turn attack?"
    Every single bird with Fly: Is that like a personal attack or something?

    • @antares4731
      @antares4731 4 роки тому +8

      Amber Hernandez **dig**

    • @kazemizu
      @kazemizu 4 роки тому +35

      Yeah, except fly and dig have semi-impervious states in the first turn

  • @DaBannyGaming
    @DaBannyGaming 4 роки тому +593

    Jrose: Pikachu is the 6th hardest Pokémon
    Ash: Hold my Thunderbolt

    • @stephenthethiccboi9775
      @stephenthethiccboi9775 4 роки тому +7

      Rock and Steel types: Are we a joke to you?

    • @jacobesterson
      @jacobesterson 4 роки тому +29

      *Ash then proceeds to take 22 years to finally achive what can be reasonably achieved in a single day.*

    • @yacinebenm1602
      @yacinebenm1602 4 роки тому +10

      @@jacobesterson he won the orange league 20 years ago

    • @pokemaniac333
      @pokemaniac333 4 роки тому +16

      @@stephenthethiccboi9775 Rock and Steel don't resist Electric. Electric actually resists Steel, and it's only resisted by itself, Dragon and Grass (and Ground is immune).

    • @fatso5573
      @fatso5573 4 роки тому +5

      It’s more like “Hold my never missing Thunderbolts”

  • @ironman-uc7ek
    @ironman-uc7ek 4 роки тому +390

    Jrose: can you beat pokemon with only Pikachu?
    The pokemon anime: yes

    • @_mako
      @_mako 4 роки тому +20

      ash never won a league. he always gives up at the elite four and quits the game

    • @ironman-uc7ek
      @ironman-uc7ek 4 роки тому +32

      @@_mako Gen 7: Am I a joke to you?

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 4 роки тому +4

      If you can somehow get it Surf. It doesn't have a terribly bad movepool though its stats lack.

    • @EWOODJ
      @EWOODJ 4 роки тому +4

      @@_mako You’re funny.
      Also wrong.

    • @justuslueke
      @justuslueke 4 роки тому

      @@ironman-uc7ek actually

  • @Campaign2024
    @Campaign2024 4 роки тому +325

    I never. NEVER understood the complaints of speeding up gameplay in real time. The only thing you save doing that is time which can be spent making more videos and editing. And no sane person would denounce a run for using speed up when all of them demand so much grinding, too.

    • @SilastheMatchmaker
      @SilastheMatchmaker 4 роки тому +43

      Only time I could understand the complaint would be in legitimate speedruns. Never understood the complaint for challenge runs like this though that is based off the in-game time.

    • @Campaign2024
      @Campaign2024 4 роки тому +31

      @boom Investing time to raise your Pokémon is not challenge. If difficulty was ever a concern in these games, the developers should have focused on better AI and more fleshed out movesets for later game trainers. A level 100 Pokémon is a level 100 Pokémon no matter how you get there, and if you need a higher level to be able to win, the bottom line is just that. Finding the level you need to be at to be able to win. Why not complain about something that actually does ruin difficulty like using in battle items or evasion like Double Team? The idea of denying being hit by your opponent is much more grimy than denying tedium of gaining experience unless it's a speedrun.

    • @SilastheMatchmaker
      @SilastheMatchmaker 4 роки тому +22

      @boom I mean, did you watch the video though? He didn't level to 100. Besides, the entite point of these 'Challenge Runs' isn't to toil away half your life grinding a Pokémon game. It's to just see if it's possible to beat the given game with only one Pokémon and some other rules. I don't think it's fair to ask a content creator like this to do the game without speedups, when it makes absolutely no difference besided the amount of time he spent grinding, which is already the most braindead part of the game.

    • @Campaign2024
      @Campaign2024 4 роки тому +1

      @boom Okay that much I'll agree to. Still wouldn't say that being level 100 would be very entertaining despite being optimal, but I see your point.

    • @hamiltoncarvalhoii9403
      @hamiltoncarvalhoii9403 4 роки тому +18

      @boom Nah I disagree about that level 100 thing. Sure he could level all his pokemon to 100 but more than "a challenge" he's also trying to find out what's absolutely necessary to beat the game. That's a key part of these challenge runs that he mentions in his videos. Almost ANY pokemon can beat the game at level 100, he knows this, but these runs aren't a matter of "if" he cant beat the game with said pokemon, but who is it easiest with. If you watch his last video he does exactly this by comparing the levels of each starter in their respective runs. He says bulbasaur is the easiest because it was only level 69 when he beat Blue, while the other two starters needed 70+. Your argument isn't relevant here, in this context, speeding up the game is totally in the cards. This is more of a data collecting thing than a "challenge" anyway.

  • @SamMcEn
    @SamMcEn 4 роки тому +98

    jrose: pokemon is a game of luck. also jrose: imma redo this gym cuz i got too lucky

  • @christalmeph
    @christalmeph 4 роки тому +143

    That one kid in class: Pikachu is the best pokemon so this will be the easiest

    • @whiterblue5960
      @whiterblue5960 4 роки тому +14

      That other kid in class: lol pokemom is for childs noob fortnait is bests ahahaaujdhw

    • @helloiamenergyman
      @helloiamenergyman 4 роки тому +8

      @@whiterblue5960 Minecraft gud fortnait bed

    • @sleprvrru6y-lin-92
      @sleprvrru6y-lin-92 4 роки тому +10

      That other kid that cheats : *ARCE(ASS) IS DE BAST POKAMAN WITH HYDRO CANNON EARTHQUAKE JUDGEMENT AND SHADOW CLAW*
      Me an intellectual : *what's this moveset*

    • @theapprovr
      @theapprovr 4 роки тому +1

      @@sleprvrru6y-lin-92 Exactly, who runs hydro CANNOn.

    • @sleprvrru6y-lin-92
      @sleprvrru6y-lin-92 4 роки тому +2

      Every noob with a shiny arceus in gen 6 lol

  • @scatlinksean
    @scatlinksean 4 роки тому +297

    Using speed up isn't a problem as it's an official feature "technically" as Pokemon Stadiums 1 and 2 offer the feature to GameBoy games if you unlock it. So no complaints.

    • @theSato
      @theSato 4 роки тому +5

      He does say this in the video, yes

    • @horizonbumpy2828
      @horizonbumpy2828 4 роки тому +25

      @boom explain why speeding up is cheating?
      and it's not like this is an official challenge that is going to be registered anywhere.

    • @scatlinksean
      @scatlinksean 4 роки тому +25

      @Brian Dietz it saves time; that's all. You're not increasing your damage or exp or anything game-breaking.

    • @horizonbumpy2828
      @horizonbumpy2828 4 роки тому +24

      @Brian Dietz instead of just saying that he is cheating, give a reason why you consider it cheating. Because i can't think of one

  • @lightsen
    @lightsen 4 роки тому +238

    just a comment to say I'm loving these videos, from forgetting mimic even existed to seeing it used to effectively was super interesting

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 4 роки тому +4

      In Gen 1, Mimic lets you copy a move from your opponent, unlike in today's game, where it only copies the move that your opponent used last turn.

    • @lightsen
      @lightsen 4 роки тому +10

      @@shadowtitanx3962 im glad it changed cause in doubles nowadays it would be broken haha

  • @petercarioscia9189
    @petercarioscia9189 4 роки тому +72

    In my 20 years of playing Pokemon, I have never once used mimic, even by accident and it's like your ace in the hole, your clutch secret weapon....man, truly you are the Pokemon Master

    • @lifetake3103
      @lifetake3103 4 роки тому +13

      well when you have a full team that covers move weaknesses mimic is something completely unnecessary. Here mimic is the only option

    • @ForeverLaxx
      @ForeverLaxx 3 роки тому +12

      Mimic is only an option in Gen1. In later versions it picks the move the opponent used last, essentially making it unusable.

    • @jrpone
      @jrpone 3 роки тому +8

      I loved Mimic back in the day...you used to be able to choose your move from your opponents move pool, was so cool to use it and spy out movesets..lol

    • @yoseftreitman7226
      @yoseftreitman7226 2 роки тому

      Watch his minimum battles vid. He says the same thing.

    • @youtube-kit9450
      @youtube-kit9450 8 місяців тому

      Mimic is pretty much only immensely helpful in gen 1 solo runs.
      Otherwise, you either have another pokémon cover for your current one, or the move works differently.

  • @apollomaster9301
    @apollomaster9301 4 роки тому +41

    I absolutely *love* how the palettes are different every video
    It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but it's a super cool detail

  • @manguy01
    @manguy01 4 роки тому +85

    I'd say Bulbasaur still keeps the top spot.
    This is mostly a tie. But Bulbasaur was your first run and you were still getting used to a lot of these obscure mechanics. So Bulbasaur would win the tie, in my mind. Plus it took slightly less time. Also seems like there was a lot more luck in this run. But that's hard to account for.

    • @gabbo3.070
      @gabbo3.070 4 роки тому

      Pikachu beat the game at lvl 68 tho

    • @CuulX
      @CuulX 4 роки тому +6

      @@gabbo3.070 Didn't bulbasaur do it too? Both beat it at 68 and leveled up to 69 with the last win?

    • @leonelrovira3300
      @leonelrovira3300 4 роки тому +16

      You have to consider that the crits happen more often because of Pikachu's higher speed stat so while there is luck involved just by being faster the likelihood of a critical hit goes up. It's a debate

    • @gabbo3.070
      @gabbo3.070 4 роки тому +5

      @@leonelrovira3300 it's not really luck just bad programming

    • @CuulX
      @CuulX 4 роки тому +5

      @@gabbo3.070 bad programming has nothing to do with this. It's orthogonal to the matter of luck.

  • @Igorcastrochucre
    @Igorcastrochucre 4 роки тому +76

    I imagine it would be even easier in Yellow, as you can connect to a N64 with Stadium and give Pikachu Surf, which essentially destroys anything rock or ground.

    • @H3XM4N1AC
      @H3XM4N1AC Рік тому

      pikachu is a monster in every way shape and form

    • @randumo24
      @randumo24 Рік тому

      Not really. Even though it gets a better move, Giovanni gets a massive upgrade in his team. Not only do all of his standard pokemon have EQ, but he also has a Persian with Slash.

    • @bradleywalker8642
      @bradleywalker8642 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@randumo24Igor is saying that you can transfer Pikachu to Stadium64, learn Surf, then transfer him back to GameBoy Yellow, and fight regular Brock and Giovanni.

  • @OCBased
    @OCBased 4 роки тому +6

    This video right here is why I think you are one of the best challenge runners out there. As oppose to Mah Dried Bread who just grinds and uses Double Team to solve all his problems, you actually strategize and find creative ways around your roadblocks. Good luck for Weedle.

  • @jimmyzeke13
    @jimmyzeke13 4 роки тому +41

    Thanks for helping me procrastinate on my university papers.

  • @mrdewarion
    @mrdewarion 4 роки тому +53

    16:24 'Pidgeot and Gyrados are still one hit KOs, Growlithe isn't'
    Continues to one hit KO Growlithe in the video 😁

    • @edmn
      @edmn 4 роки тому +3

      Also, 'Pidgeotto?'

    • @exantiuse497
      @exantiuse497 4 роки тому +4

      I think he means it isn't *always* 1 hit (it's in the damage range but a low roll won't OHK). Or he just misspoke idk

    • @mrdewarion
      @mrdewarion 4 роки тому +1

      @@exantiuse497 Doesn't matter really, I'm deliberately nitpicky here :p Honestly though, I just thought it was a funny moment^^ I seriously enjoy these videos.

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles 4 роки тому

      @@exantiuse497 I've had times where the exact same play went ever so slightly differently. It's not always predictable how much damage you'll exactly get

  • @Lenwulf
    @Lenwulf 4 роки тому +45

    Jrose: So to get pikachu we’re gonna use a ganeshark
    Pokemon Yellow: Am I a joke to you?

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 4 роки тому +8

      How would yo keep these consistent with yellow? Quite a many differences with enemies there.

    • @CharlieZColt
      @CharlieZColt 4 роки тому +4

      Brock is easier and the starter Pikachu is stronger in yellow too

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 4 роки тому

      @@CharlieZColt Does it have some max IV's or something? Because otherwise it just has a bit better movepool, notably Thunderbolt at 26, but that you would get around the same level from Surge anyways.

    • @CharlieZColt
      @CharlieZColt 4 роки тому +1

      Wombat not sure about IV’s but it gets Slam instead of Swift (I prefer slam because more damage) and Double Team which is a very broken movie if you can set up with it, basically you can spam double team so you just won’t get hit at all. Also the fights against Brock and Erika are easier.

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 4 роки тому +3

      @@CharlieZColt Oh yeah so you only referred to the movepool. Slam is honestly trash since you get Mega Punch in Mt Moon (and more of them in Celadon store), which has the same power and is more accurate, and later Body Slam, which is better than both of those in every way. And if you calculate average power (power*accuracy), Swift has the exact same as Slam.
      Double Team is also a TM that you can get from Celadon store, though in Yellow Pikachu learns it way before you get there, so that could be counted as an advantage. It also learns Quick attack at 11 instead of 16, which actually could be beneficial for this run.
      Some fights indeed are easier and there are fewer rocket fights, that is the main reason why running in Yellow would be unfair.

  • @latrodectusmactans7592
    @latrodectusmactans7592 4 роки тому +5

    This is one of my favorite challenge runs ever because of how you used Mimic. I never would have even considered these strategies.

  • @ckillgore
    @ckillgore 4 роки тому +113

    This format could potentially be a endless source of content. If you feel like continuing this series after you do all of gen 1, you could do gen 2, but only used potential starters that are exclusive to gen 2. Same with gen 3 and so on.

    • @The_Ninja_Tree
      @The_Ninja_Tree 4 роки тому +6

      This man is giving you sage advice

    • @groudonvert7286
      @groudonvert7286 4 роки тому +7

      I'm not sure that Baby Pokémon in Gen 3 are good enough for the game ^^'' Wobbuffet can't finish Pokémon Emerald without objects, Wynaut is way worse than him.

    • @rjante2236
      @rjante2236 4 роки тому +9

      @@groudonvert7286 Azurill can, though. Huge Power is OP.

    • @groudonvert7286
      @groudonvert7286 4 роки тому +1

      @@rjante2236 yeah if you have it.

    • @genuineangusbeef8697
      @genuineangusbeef8697 4 роки тому +19

      I don't know if the format will work beyond Gen 1. Several things about this Gen specifically make these challenges far more possible and interesting. Stuff like fighting gym leaders wildly out of order, the awful enemy movesets, the abundance of strong TMs early on, the terrible AI, and the badge boost glitch all contribute to making these runs reasonably possible before level 100.

  • @epithayadarcithia2117
    @epithayadarcithia2117 4 роки тому +37

    I love the fact that these come out at like 3AM for me so after my self loathing from 2-3 I can relax

  • @catherinelastname
    @catherinelastname 4 роки тому +4

    I hadn’t even noticed the different colour palettes in each playthrough, but now I’m almost as excited to see those as I am to see which Pokémon is next! Such a cool idea!

  • @lennyward7662
    @lennyward7662 4 роки тому +1

    Your Pokemon challenges have proven to be my favorite of all the UA-camrs I've seen so far. Thanks for the hard work, informative commentary, and entertaining product.

  • @Gungho73
    @Gungho73 4 роки тому +17

    Body slam is such a good move in gen 1 when you think of how many pokemon it is applicable to.

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 4 роки тому

      Yep. Body Slam in Gen 1 was pretty good in general. Lots of Mons get it. Plus, the 30% Paralysis is really good. The only downside is that Body Slam in Gen 1 cannot "Paralyze" Normal types.

    • @youtube-kit9450
      @youtube-kit9450 Рік тому

      Yeah, it's funny how 95% of the moves are complete garbage and then you have thunderbolt, surf, ice beam, flamethrower, fire blast, thunder, blizzard, hyper beam, earthquake, psychic, dig and bodyslam. Compare Bodyslam (85 power, 100 accuracy, 30% paralysis) to submission (80 power, 80 accuracy, does recoil to yourself)

  • @tydymiler
    @tydymiler 4 роки тому +115

    Really loving these uploads, hope there is enough sustained engagement to keep them coming.
    And definitely utilize speed-ups with the Retron. I can't stand when the comments section acts like grinding your life away at 1x speed for no reason is a badge of honor.

    • @thatguy4996
      @thatguy4996 4 роки тому +4

      TyDy Miler or like it’s some kind of crime to speed up so grinding doesn’t break his soul

  • @skibalovesya
    @skibalovesya 4 роки тому +11

    I've never commented before but I just wanted to say thank you for making these challenge runs. I find your style the most enjoyable out of any of the Poketubers I've seen, and they've been keeping me entertained on my closing shifts given everything that's been going on in the world. I appreciate all the effort you go to to make these possible.

  • @xmgaming2444
    @xmgaming2444 4 роки тому +7

    You actually used my new intro! Glad I can be a part of the channel in a small way. :D

  • @Morvven
    @Morvven 4 роки тому +7

    Don't apologize for speeding the game. I for one, can't even play regular pokemon because its so godawful slow. So speed it up and do yourself a favor :D

  • @SirKryntik
    @SirKryntik 4 роки тому +117

    You should give Magikarp another try, NOW HEAR ME OUT. There's a legal event Magikarp that can learn Dragon Rage. It's legal in competitive battling, so why not give it a shot?

    • @SuperTtKiller
      @SuperTtKiller 4 роки тому +1

      How where event

    • @counterfeit1148
      @counterfeit1148 4 роки тому +2

      Legit and allowed are alternative words.

    • @counterfeit1148
      @counterfeit1148 4 роки тому +12

      @@SuperTtKiller The event is over, but the Magikarps can still exist on some save files.

    • @SirKryntik
      @SirKryntik 4 роки тому +53

      @@SuperTtKiller University Magikarp from '99 I believe. It was a Japanese event and the reward was a Magikarp with Dragon Rage. It could be added in via cheating device (which is already used to manipulate the starter, so no harm there) and then would be able to do damage in the Pokemon Tower in Lavender Town. Worst case scenario, we get more Magikarp content.
      I say we push the issue and try to get a video out of it. It's a legit option that could realistically make it through the whole game.

    • @chlorobyte_projects
      @chlorobyte_projects 4 роки тому +2

      @@counterfeit1148 I mean, Magikarp wouldn't really have a chance otherwise, considering it learns Tackle at level 15, it just *might* have a chance at beating Brock.

  • @np8139
    @np8139 4 роки тому +2

    I can't get enough of these videos, so speed up the game as much as you want as long as the game play remains the same. Thanks for giving me something to look forward to while quarantined, Jrose.

  • @ThatguycalledJoe
    @ThatguycalledJoe 4 роки тому +42

    "We outspeed the Onix"
    "We can safely use Quick Attack"
    Erm... someone wanna break it to him?

    • @Adam-lw6es
      @Adam-lw6es 4 роки тому +1

      ERM

    • @rob.3955
      @rob.3955 4 роки тому +2

      He had no moves besides Quick Attack that could hit Onix.

    • @ThatguycalledJoe
      @ThatguycalledJoe 4 роки тому +12

      Which is increased priority.
      Brock's Onix doesn't have any increased priority moves itself.
      So Speed doesn't matter.

    • @bitemytail
      @bitemytail 4 роки тому +1

      Bide also has priority (he says it doesn't in gen 1, but I don't think that is correct), so being faster than Onix is needed for quick attack to avoid hitting him during bide.

    • @kkwolf1922
      @kkwolf1922 4 роки тому +9

      Patrick Murphy according to bulbapedia, bide wasn’t given priority till gen 4.

  • @bradenspangler7710
    @bradenspangler7710 4 роки тому +8

    I can't wait to watch these as they come out then watch the 40 hour playlist again once all 50+ runs are complete

  • @delete.and.repeat
    @delete.and.repeat 4 роки тому +17

    You were the first person I saw that made these type of videos. I'm so glad that you're grinding through all these challenges and upfront about all your processes. I wish i could count as more than one subscriber to help you on your way to 200k. You're gonna make it!

    • @theSato
      @theSato 4 роки тому +1

      You can, make a few additional accounts to subscribe with. I subbed 8 times :P

  • @neet0burrit035
    @neet0burrit035 3 роки тому +2

    "Mimic hyper beam, and set up there agilities to boost my attack" is a sentence that totally makes sense in context, but to someone who only knows modern pokémons head hurt

    • @spazerdazer8421
      @spazerdazer8421 3 роки тому +1

      >who uses mimic?
      >who uses hyper beam and why would you want it?
      >how does agility boost attack when it only boosts speed?
      >why would you want to boost your attack if you want to use hyper beam?
      The questions of a modern competitive only player.

  • @gabevans087
    @gabevans087 3 роки тому

    That’s fossil fossil rivalry end comment in the video seems interesting.
    Always nice to watch your content.
    So relaxing and a break from classes and assignments. Need to get my popcorn and soda stash for these 😂

  • @BrynRuskin
    @BrynRuskin 4 роки тому +4

    This series is so cool, thanks for doing this!

  • @theSato
    @theSato 4 роки тому +10

    Sick update to the thumbnails! I miss the old ones tbh but these are objectively superior designs and much more readable at a small size - very important - this coming from a thumbnail artist!

  • @Nighty93_
    @Nighty93_ 4 роки тому

    I love this series! Really happy that you produce content like this! It's so entertaining and thanks also for making these videos lengthy!! I wouldn't mind if they are 1 hour per episode even. I love watching them. Thanks for the great work you do!!

  • @connorgraham4821
    @connorgraham4821 4 роки тому

    I can’t wait for part 5 man, keep up the good work, loving this series!❤️

  • @genuineangusbeef8697
    @genuineangusbeef8697 4 роки тому +8

    I'm absolutely hooked on this series.
    I think the tier list could use a "consistency" column. Not necessarily a statistic, but just a way to fill in the gap left by what's there alone.
    Speed is super important in Gen 1, and that seems to be the main takeaway here. Movepool also helped, Seismic Toss is an option the other electrics will loathe not having, but it was huge that you could just attack before being attacked against most foes. I wanna see how tough it is for Paras.

  • @nathanielgrey4091
    @nathanielgrey4091 4 роки тому +42

    I was just wondering when this would come out.
    Also, I remember your Yellow least battle video. I can't imagine this going well.
    Edit: I stand corrected.

  • @SunbeamSmiles
    @SunbeamSmiles 4 роки тому +1

    Just found your channel and I'm really enjoying this series. Looking forward to all the other runs!

  • @biggator7233
    @biggator7233 2 роки тому

    So interesting going back to your old videos after seeing your newer videos. How similar they are, and some of the newer jokes referring to old videos. Or how much more explanation goes into these older ones. I absolutely love your content and will drop everything when you upload. Good luck on future runs and don't forget Sabrina.

  • @huff3782
    @huff3782 4 роки тому +7

    Hey Jrose! I love these videos and really admire your dedication to keeping things as genuine as possible. Hopefully people in the comments stop giving you so much flak! If they want the totally pure and genuine experience they can do the challenge on OG hardware themselves. Video production takes work and it's always a treat to see you post a new vid.

  • @zenkichihitoyoshi9513
    @zenkichihitoyoshi9513 4 роки тому +5

    Oh hey, the new intro sounds great! Looking forward to the other parts

    • @xmgaming2444
      @xmgaming2444 4 роки тому +2

      I'm glad people like my new intro, I'm just happy my work has become a little part of the channel!

    • @zenkichihitoyoshi9513
      @zenkichihitoyoshi9513 4 роки тому +1

      XM Gaming I was wondering if your comment was noticed on the previous video and there it is! Great work!

  • @osrsgoaltender3069
    @osrsgoaltender3069 4 роки тому

    I look forward to these videos! Super hyped about this one. Thanks for taking our minds off this crazy stuff! You the best jrose!

  • @ultralightjay7793
    @ultralightjay7793 4 роки тому +2

    your work ethic as of late is insane. Keep it up! Patiently awaiting the weedle run (for better or worse)

  • @FrostAskar2332
    @FrostAskar2332 4 роки тому +4

    I like how he says "Koga was too lucky. Let's challenge him again" first time I see a pokechallenger do that

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel 4 роки тому +19

    10:20 "And this is really starting to shock me"
    Hehe get it, cause it's a Pikachu

  • @Norien711
    @Norien711 4 роки тому

    I love these videos and this series. So excited for it to continue! The pace of these uploads recently is awesome

  • @brendang2441
    @brendang2441 4 роки тому

    Love this series so much. I look forward to these videos every two days now haha

  • @atompanax7277
    @atompanax7277 4 роки тому +2

    I love the new intro and I’m loving the series so far 😊

    • @xmgaming2444
      @xmgaming2444 4 роки тому

      The support for the new intro is much appreciated! :D

  • @pj5092
    @pj5092 4 роки тому +1

    I'm really enjoying all of your videos! You put in a lot of strategy and planning into your fights.

  • @FujiwarnerCo1dj
    @FujiwarnerCo1dj 2 роки тому

    I watched a 3 minute ad start to finish for you. You’re a great creator. Don’t stop.

    • @wickederebus
      @wickederebus Рік тому

      He makes the same amount even if you skip asap.

  • @tagon2381
    @tagon2381 4 роки тому +20

    Oak: “so you want the water Pokémon SQUIRTLE?”
    Ash: “yes.”
    Ash received a PIKACHU.
    Oak looks on in horror as everything he knows is a lie. His grandson died in a bike accident crash 5 years ago. Ash never woke up on time to get his Pokémon. The professor stirs out of sleep to see that he’s drunk again, his wife yells at him for the third time this week.
    Man that got darker than I intended.

    • @mafianskyt9445
      @mafianskyt9445 3 роки тому

      Man this is like that image of ash giving treats to mouse and lizard in psych ward and calling them charmander adn pikachu

    • @lloydirving6209
      @lloydirving6209 3 роки тому

      good post until the last line, ruins it

  • @jeroenvdw
    @jeroenvdw 4 роки тому +6

    When I was young i did this with Pikachu only. My moveset was Thunderbolt, Double Team, Mimic and Thunder. At Bruno I used Mimic to Mimic Earthquake and then steamroll him. Same for Gary his Rhydon.

  • @phoebe5114
    @phoebe5114 4 роки тому +2

    Love the different game color for each mon. Hoping that continues!!

  • @scythes2864
    @scythes2864 4 роки тому

    Very chill video series to watch during my playthrough of Bannerlord. Thanks and keep it up!

  • @lionofash7700
    @lionofash7700 4 роки тому +19

    You know, technically Eevee is the rival's starter in Yellow so maybe...

  • @aiko1697
    @aiko1697 4 роки тому +6

    It's 3:30 in the morning right now, so the soft intro music was really nice.

    • @xmgaming2444
      @xmgaming2444 4 роки тому +3

      I'm glad people seem to be enjoying it, I didn't even know it would be included in this video lol

  • @litodelaghetto853
    @litodelaghetto853 4 роки тому

    Jose man keep it up, I know these videos take super long and take a lot of patience but we appreciate them and look forward to them during quarantine. Thank you and plz keep them coming!

  • @indyanbigboy89
    @indyanbigboy89 3 роки тому

    Dude I love your commentary and the way you talk. Can really connect with all the things that are going in your head while you are playing. I actually enjoy hearing you commentate as I go to sleep at night :P

  • @shadowmoasic3524
    @shadowmoasic3524 4 роки тому +38

    Time to try again. Gastly would be an amazing choice since it wouldn't be such a massive grind for you to do and it's amazing special and moveset

    • @nathanielgrey4091
      @nathanielgrey4091 4 роки тому +10

      The first half is going to be hilarious.

    • @leonelrovira3300
      @leonelrovira3300 4 роки тому

      Unfortunately stab moves are gonna be trash because Ghost type is physical in gen 1 and Gastly doesn't learn any boosting moves other than double team so no badge boost. I expect Gastly to be a difficult

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 4 роки тому

      Although, Alakazam is gonna be a common theme in the last half of the game. So, there's that to worry about. Not to mention its crazy high Speed stat/Crit Ratio.

    • @kassadus2499
      @kassadus2499 4 роки тому +1

      Gastly is the easiest mon to beat the Game with. It's base stats are so absurdly high when combined with badge boosts and stat exp that even without a boosting or Stab move it tears through everything with ease. The only threats in the entire game are getting hit by hypnosis from Agatha or getting crit by Alakazam psychic.
      You also roll through the entire early game effortlessly since nothing can hit you.

    • @leonelrovira3300
      @leonelrovira3300 4 роки тому

      @@kassadus2499 to use badge boost you have to use a boosting move and the only boosting move you have access to in gen one is double team which jrose doesn't like using because it's too cheesy so that really leaves badge boost out of the picture

  • @mjdxp5688
    @mjdxp5688 4 роки тому +6

    Wow, I never expected Pikachu to be so good, badge boosts really do seem to make these runs possible though

  • @paigemosson
    @paigemosson 4 роки тому +1

    I'm so happy you have been putting so much content out lately! Here's hoping you make it to 200k soon!!!

  • @nathanogara9660
    @nathanogara9660 4 роки тому +1

    Dude I haven't played Pokemon in 10 years and I only played gen 4, as a kid that knew nothing about the game, and ur content is still great, idk what it is but it's good to watch

  • @spencerwilken9974
    @spencerwilken9974 4 роки тому +3

    Great video! But you could have saved a lot of time on Brock if you would have just turned the sprinklers on... 😂

  • @ydbg56gfdf4
    @ydbg56gfdf4 4 роки тому +3

    I’m loving this so much, keep it up :)))

  • @MiKz17z
    @MiKz17z 4 роки тому

    These videos are Amazing, can't wait to se what's coming next 💪🏼

  • @PuppetsByPalmieri
    @PuppetsByPalmieri 4 роки тому

    I vastly prefer sped up game play for more frequent uploads than to be waiting a week.
    Thanks for making these man!

  • @bobbyhinner3225
    @bobbyhinner3225 4 роки тому +5

    Yeah I love the color changing palettes, you can do it on the original hardware as well which a lot of people don’t know

  • @ROL4NDpkmnguide
    @ROL4NDpkmnguide 4 роки тому +63

    Someone accepted the help to fix their intro

  • @tiemen9095
    @tiemen9095 4 роки тому +2

    If anyone tells you speed-ups are cheating, good for them. Don't worry about it dude, just keep on making enjoyable content in whatever way you like.

  • @everydayentertainment8574
    @everydayentertainment8574 2 роки тому

    Jrose11 keep doing your thing. Bringing solid content and new strategies every time. My brother you are keeping the nostalgia alive for a generation of people.

  • @Korm
    @Korm 4 роки тому +7

    This was really enjoyable! Just started watching recently, and I've got to say, I absolutely respect you wanting to play on legitimate hardware. I'm the exact same way. If it can be done one a real game, I absolutely will! Keep up the good work!

    • @azelfdaboi5265
      @azelfdaboi5265 4 роки тому

      *_Le Gasp_* another good YT in the comment section of a good YT

  • @AelfricBlack
    @AelfricBlack 4 роки тому +9

    I like the new jingle.
    Also love your stuff, you're helping me a lot through this lockdown.
    Hope to see one thousand more of your videos!

    • @xmgaming2444
      @xmgaming2444 4 роки тому +1

      I made the new intro and I'm glad people seem to be enjoying it. Even if nobody knows it was me, the positivity is really inspiring :D

    • @theSato
      @theSato 4 роки тому

      @@xmgaming2444 you say "even if nobody knows it was you" but you're seeking out every comment pointing out the changed intro to say it was you lol

    • @xmgaming2444
      @xmgaming2444 4 роки тому +1

      @@theSato Well, I enjoy responding to people who resonate with my work to give myself a sense of personality and community. Also having my music here is a big win for me so I'm enjoying the moment.

    • @AelfricBlack
      @AelfricBlack 4 роки тому +1

      Nothing wrong with looking for feedback, enjoying it and replying! It's just natural to be proud of one's work and be interested in opinions and discussions about it.

  • @ThunderClub
    @ThunderClub 4 роки тому

    Funny story, back when our channel was looking at ideas for speedrun races one of the first ideas we had was catching a Pikachu in Viridian Forest in R/B, then beating Brock with only that Pikachu to finish the challenge, even had overlays and special rule boxes done already. Even just in finding a Pikachu we were in way over our heads, and then when we realized we were about to spend hours upon hours getting rocked by Brock it had to be scrapped.
    Its super impressive to see someone take these sorts of runs on, especially with the speed at which you're knocking these out, and is really cool to see how you have to change plans around your limitations. These videos honestly help give me a new perspective on some pokemon like Geodude for example I would never even really think about before. Really looking forward to seeing more stuff from you.

  • @Sahil-oq8ki
    @Sahil-oq8ki Рік тому

    love the pokemon conquest background music! that game never gets enough love tbh

  • @Mc-lu5ic
    @Mc-lu5ic 4 роки тому +6

    I really like your footage sped up. No complaints here! Love this series keep it going

  • @IDKGeorge123
    @IDKGeorge123 4 роки тому +3

    Probably one of my most embarrassing stories but here we go, so when I was eight Pokémon yellow had come out. I was so excited I reached lavender town with a inventory of Pokémon and I had no idea you could deposit Pokémon or where Pokémon I had caught were going. Also Typing didn’t mean a thing to me so I spent days trying to beat brock with pikachu.. you know though, that beating made it a challenge in my mind and it really was.. and when I beat him it gave me the motivation to see that journey through like all great games do. I miss the old games, no hand holding even for kids games, figure it out on your own. Wasn’t that the magic?

  • @TheDashingStallion
    @TheDashingStallion 4 роки тому +2

    Really great videos, man! Been learning alot

  • @jamesjr2219901
    @jamesjr2219901 10 місяців тому

    Road to 200k… checks notes… congrats on 300K SUBS!!!!!! Keep up the great content!

  • @salty_lake
    @salty_lake 3 роки тому +2

    Yellow Machop isn't real, it can't hurt you
    Yellow Machop: 11:11

  • @YodatheJedi12
    @YodatheJedi12 4 роки тому +4

    I actually thought this would be Weedle and was looking forward to the trouble you would have and if you would pull through. Oh well, I suppose we'll have to wait!!

  • @ZenoDovahkiin
    @ZenoDovahkiin 4 роки тому +2

    Well, normally yes, for the simple reason that starting Pikachu gives you all Gen1 starters in exchange for locking Raichu.

  • @DarkAnarchy666
    @DarkAnarchy666 4 роки тому

    I thought you said that you speed the game up after you play it. Which didn't make any sense.
    I love these series. I watched half of this during my break at work. I like it that much.
    Keep making 'em!

  • @skylarfox_bmb
    @skylarfox_bmb 4 роки тому +4

    I saw the Mimic TM and was instantly curious. I was not disappointed at all

  • @faze2alien
    @faze2alien 4 роки тому +4

    At the end of the series (and assuming you decide to do this with all generations with the new Pokémon respectively) you should take the top 6 Pokémon you think you had the easiest time with and the 6 Pokémon you had the hardest time with and do a separate video for them as 1 party.

  • @blaneyfan73
    @blaneyfan73 4 роки тому

    Jrose11 I just started watching your videos recently, and they are awesome. I hope you reach 200K! You deserve to, providing us with this amazing content. Keep it up.

  • @Toastishott
    @Toastishott 4 роки тому

    Jrose you're my favorite poketuber love these rapid fire uploads!

  • @OmegaTyrant
    @OmegaTyrant 4 роки тому +3

    Seeing how much just getting three badge boosts with Agility helped out Pikachu, yeah I'm sure now Withdraw would have helped Squirtle more than having both Body Slam and Dig did. Getting all your stats nearly doubled > a bit more move coverage.