I have a Premium AT. The AT has drink holders you can use ( I love to drink and drive...coffee) If I want to play race driver I can always use the paddle shifters. I will be 80 too soon (this month). This 86 is fun to drive and has enough HP, you always want more!!! I only dislike that it's hard to get in and out of. I'm lucky I'm a short old fart. I wish there was a track near me so I could drive it fast and safe.
It was a pain but I used my 22 brz to help my mom move and you'd be suprised how much stuff I got in there with the seat folded down. It was pretty snug compared to my impreza 5 door but I was pleasantly surprised with how much stuff I actually fit in there.
@@jasonrichard6286 its really fun, getting used to driving a manual around all the time was tuff at first. I would recomend it if you are looking for a simple sports car.
Every time i see a review of this car, I keep thinking how cheap the interior looks. Then I go back to watching videos on the 230i and makes me want to get that instead for my next car.
im definitely going to hold out for the next gen, rumored to have an in house engine making more power and i hope they give us an updated infotainment(hope it doesn't stick out from above the dash) and with a decent sound system
@ighostfaces the source has always been spot on over the years with his leaks. Toyota did part ways with subaru so the next gen is going to be in house, plus the 2024 is getting better brakes and a decent sound system so things are already aligning. Also i know the car is fun and feels great just how it is but some of us would like more power out of a small compact car and i have been thinking of dropping an inline 6 in one but if they do put a turbo in it from factory that makes 300 crank then it'd be better for me to wait. And pricing wouldn't be that drastic, there's going to be a base, base +, and a premium
@@zykotek1221 There’s no room for this “car”, GR Corolla starts at 38k and it’s already more of a successor to the original 86 anyway, link your source and id be more than happy to see what they have gotten right.
If you want more power in a small rear wheel drive car , The four-cylinder Turbo and 6 cylinder turbo Supra. The four-cylinder Turbo makes around 250 horsepower with great torque and of course the Supra makes close to 400 horsepower if not more.
I've been looking at these cars. Not sure about the boxer engine though, seen some RTV issues talked about and some weird maintenance requirements, otherwise a solid engine, but a bit of an unknown to me.
If it makes you feel any better, Toyota made BMW tweak the B58 so that it’d be up to Toyota’s reliability standards when they put it in the new supra so maybe they did that here too with this engine?
How to fix any “issues” with the FA24 if you plan on tracking the car: 1) you do NOT run 0w-20, that shit shears BAD at 250*F, you run 5W-40, fuck what Toyota says that is what GR-Cup cars run. 2) overfill at LEAST .5L, up to 1.0L for TRACK USE ONLY. This reduces pressure lost on right hand turns under load. I went from seeing 18-22psi on hard rights on 200 tread, to 45psi+ 3) oil cooler. Factory oem one doesn’t hack it. Smaller core size, shorter lines. Some coolers have a larger pressure delta than others. I’ve seen some people eliminate the oem one and just run the a/m because of the pressure delta across the system contributing to pressure losses. 4) get an oil pressure gauge, i went 52mm AEM unit with a 3D printer gauge attached to a vent. 5) optional baffle. To this date no baffle has been proven to reduce the drop, in part because they’re a horizontal design rather than one designed to keep oil on the side side of the pan on right hand turns. There are developments being made on this. Do this, get yourself some catless unequal lengths, e85, and some Zach at CSG magic ecutek services, and party on
No stick with the Camry , 25 years old is too old to just be getting a first license. You may have missed the boat on being able to handle a car well, ever.
It’s not a comparison. Shifter is better/smoother but longer throws in the Si, clutch is MUCH softer, but the 86 leaves it in the dust stock vs stock. People shit on the FA24 but the L15 is even more suspect, thin ass rods that like to exit the chat after a downpipe swap and a tune lol
Oil pressure is fixable bud. 1) 5W-40 NOT 0W-20 EPA GARBAGE 2) .5-1.0L overfill for track use only 3) a/m oil cooler with smaller core, shorter lines, smaller pressure delta. Remove the oem is pressure drops across the system are more than 6-7psi from one end to the other. 4) baffle (though I do recommend waiting for the vertical designs coming out that keep oil on the right side during right hand turns 5) oil pressure gauge to monitor system. People who have done this have eliminated 90% of the pressure drops on right hand turns without the use of accusump
@@Nohoesjesusfrlol. The only thing you need to worry about is the interest rate the dealership will want from you. I remember waayy back when I bought my first car w no credit history my interest was super high. So unless you don't care about wasting thousands on interest alone then buy it.
Ive watched a heap of videos on this car and i feel this was one of the more in depth helpful guides. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just a dude from Canada enjoying this video.
I have a Premium AT. The AT has drink holders you can use ( I love to drink and drive...coffee) If I want to play race driver I can always use the paddle shifters. I will be 80 too soon (this month). This 86 is fun to drive and has enough HP, you always want more!!! I only dislike that it's hard to get in and out of. I'm lucky I'm a short old fart. I wish there was a track near me so I could drive it fast and safe.
Dang 80 🫡
I'm only about 20 and hope to afford this one day
Enjoy your car sir
u sir are a man of class driving this car at 80 years old. I wish you an amazing future with the gr86
@@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594
23 - just bought mine. Just keep saving a bit. It’s not that bad! Worth it.
Should’ve got a manual or a different car
@@Filterfinder hes fucking 80 bro not everyone fits your "manual or different car" agenda
I made a deposit yesterday and can’t wait to get it!
Congrats!
Great review,i have a 2023 GR86 and after watching your comments I am now going to leave the rear seats folded down.Good idea!
I actually prefer the seats up. Otherwise the boot items roll and slide around. And it causes noise moving around
This looks great in black.
Just bought one today!! That Celica is awesome
Nice choice! And thanks!
It was a pain but I used my 22 brz to help my mom move and you'd be suprised how much stuff I got in there with the seat folded down. It was pretty snug compared to my impreza 5 door but I was pleasantly surprised with how much stuff I actually fit in there.
I am so happy that i own one
Great cars!
Me too!
How are you liking it
@@jasonrichard6286 its really fun, getting used to driving a manual around all the time was tuff at first. I would recomend it if you are looking for a simple sports car.
Good advice
Thanks!
You think you might upgrade your celiac to an 86? Would be a pretty great upgrade.
Every time i see a review of this car, I keep thinking how cheap the interior looks. Then I go back to watching videos on the 230i and makes me want to get that instead for my next car.
Bye
celica & 86 side by side, wish to own both one day.
Me too...
I test drove one today a 24 6mt. The console was weird for sure. Also I like to rest my arm on the door and it seemed like the door is so high
Fuck it I’m going for the MT Premium
im definitely going to hold out for the next gen, rumored to have an in house engine making more power and i hope they give us an updated infotainment(hope it doesn't stick out from above the dash) and with a decent sound system
Highly doubt those rumors, but who knows lets say it turns out to be true, It still wouldn't be the same car experience.
@ighostfaces the source has always been spot on over the years with his leaks. Toyota did part ways with subaru so the next gen is going to be in house, plus the 2024 is getting better brakes and a decent sound system so things are already aligning. Also i know the car is fun and feels great just how it is but some of us would like more power out of a small compact car and i have been thinking of dropping an inline 6 in one but if they do put a turbo in it from factory that makes 300 crank then it'd be better for me to wait. And pricing wouldn't be that drastic, there's going to be a base, base +, and a premium
@@zykotek1221 There’s no room for this “car”, GR Corolla starts at 38k and it’s already more of a successor to the original 86 anyway, link your source and id be more than happy to see what they have gotten right.
If you want more power in a small rear wheel drive car ,
The four-cylinder Turbo and 6 cylinder turbo Supra. The four-cylinder Turbo makes around 250 horsepower with great torque and of course the Supra makes close to 400 horsepower if not more.
The GR86 definitely has a lot more in common with an AE86 than an all-wheel drive, turbocharged four-door GR Corolla...
This is the spec I'm looking for 😭
I've been looking at these cars. Not sure about the boxer engine though, seen some RTV issues talked about and some weird maintenance requirements, otherwise a solid engine, but a bit of an unknown to me.
If it makes you feel any better, Toyota made BMW tweak the B58 so that it’d be up to Toyota’s reliability standards when they put it in the new supra so maybe they did that here too with this engine?
Yeah the Subaru engine is unfortunately the weakest point of these. Generally though, left a stock they do okay.
How to fix any “issues” with the FA24 if you plan on tracking the car:
1) you do NOT run 0w-20, that shit shears BAD at 250*F, you run 5W-40, fuck what Toyota says that is what GR-Cup cars run.
2) overfill at LEAST .5L, up to 1.0L for TRACK USE ONLY. This reduces pressure lost on right hand turns under load. I went from seeing 18-22psi on hard rights on 200 tread, to 45psi+
3) oil cooler. Factory oem one doesn’t hack it. Smaller core size, shorter lines. Some coolers have a larger pressure delta than others. I’ve seen some people eliminate the oem one and just run the a/m because of the pressure delta across the system contributing to pressure losses.
4) get an oil pressure gauge, i went 52mm AEM unit with a 3D printer gauge attached to a vent.
5) optional baffle. To this date no baffle has been proven to reduce the drop, in part because they’re a horizontal design rather than one designed to keep oil on the side side of the pan on right hand turns. There are developments being made on this.
Do this, get yourself some catless unequal lengths, e85, and some Zach at CSG magic ecutek services, and party on
@@arandomcommenter7051
" overfill at LEAST .5L, up to 1.0L for TRACK USE ONLY. "
Why not for street use?
@@BarrySlisk you probably won't be pulling the g force like that on the street and not as long as you would on the track
It started with the FRS 😅 then comes GT86 as homage to Ae86 GR name badge was building up recognition in the race scene and So the GR86 was born 😊
The FR-S always included the AE86 in it's heritage. If you check the fender badges on them, they have "86" in the center of the boxer piston logo.
do you have some issues putting those wheels on the celica or they fit just fine?
I added some spacers for effect, but they bolted right up.
@@AskforBryan thank you! so no rubbing or scrubbing and I don't need spacers?
Would this be a good first car for a 25 year old who is just about to get his license? Is it better than the Camry?
No stick with the Camry , 25 years old is too old to just be getting a first license. You may have missed the boat on being able to handle a car well, ever.
For a new driver, Id go with a Camry all day.
I was under the admission that the transmission was made by Toyota and not Subaru. Can some please confirm this?
Impression *
Someone*
yes it is. its an Aisin unit
This transmission is TL70 based on asin AZ6. It's not Toyota or Subaru transmission, Miatas has it, Nissan used it etc
Third party company makes it
GR86 vs CiviC Si 11Gen do a comparison
If I could get access to both at once, I'd love to do that!
It’s not a comparison. Shifter is better/smoother but longer throws in the Si, clutch is MUCH softer, but the 86 leaves it in the dust stock vs stock. People shit on the FA24 but the L15 is even more suspect, thin ass rods that like to exit the chat after a downpipe swap and a tune lol
Ill wait for the gr86 when toyota puts the 3cyl turbo in it because subaru said they wont fix the rtv or the oil pressure issue.
But naturally aspirated 👀
Oil pressure is fixable bud.
1) 5W-40 NOT 0W-20 EPA GARBAGE
2) .5-1.0L overfill for track use only
3) a/m oil cooler with smaller core, shorter lines, smaller pressure delta. Remove the oem is pressure drops across the system are more than 6-7psi from one end to the other.
4) baffle (though I do recommend waiting for the vertical designs coming out that keep oil on the right side during right hand turns
5) oil pressure gauge to monitor system.
People who have done this have eliminated 90% of the pressure drops on right hand turns without the use of accusump
I was waiting for the promised turbo in 2014, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20.
You may have a long wait.
@@user-qr2vj6zc6sexactly, didn't happen then,not going to happen now.
I chose Mustang after driving both GR86 and GT.
Yeah a mustang is great for power, but it won't have the same connected feel as the GR86 around a series corners.
It’s not the same engine as the first gen. 2.4 liter vs. 2.0 liter.
Great point! I forgot to mention that.
I can’t find the AT anywhere I swear
Be a man, buy the manual
so much orange peel on the trunk lid why
The car was getting wet from rain starting up.
How much would it cost with zero credit?
Price is the same no matter the credit.
@@AskforBryan so it doesn’t charge me extra?
@@Nohoesjesusfrlol. The only thing you need to worry about is the interest rate the dealership will want from you. I remember waayy back when I bought my first car w no credit history my interest was super high. So unless you don't care about wasting thousands on interest alone then buy it.
@@porfiriato84 ohh thank you I don’t really know because I’ve never bought a car
Why wouldn't you park the two cars both facing forward for comparison 😂smh
parked based on driveline
You don't own one....what the hell are you talking about???
33k for 2.5 engine no turbo no supercharger lol
And? It will out corner most other cars out there on a twisty road. Other than a Miata, name another RWD 6MT sports car for $33k.
@@AskforBryan Exactly!