True, the internet is whatever you what it to be. That's why I avoid pointless social media channels and content as much as I can. Kind of hard today though, content like this is becoming less and less common, compared to drama and propaganda.
When Steve says "... especially with Garett" There's kind of a mix of respect, and sadness, in Steve's voice. Like he knows his old girlfriend is having a really, _really_ good time these days lol
@@highpointsights Your are correct that an autopsy is performed upon a human body after death An autopsy is an examination of the dead body within every aspect of the body including cutting it open to examine the internal organs with the purpose to find evidence indications, measurements, details with the intention, purpose, aim to determine the apparent means, paths, causes of death. A motor-engine does not live have life. This engine actually was still operating, functioning. There was/is evidence, indications, including very low oil pressure, a broken inner valve spring, tiny metal shavings in the oil, especially the oil filter which collected, thus concern with significant wear, damage within internal parts, metal components Mechanical, physical, electrical, machines, electronics, etc. have principles with which they operate, function, per the physics. Thus there is exact, precise, accurate principles, mechanism, causes, thus with full, proper investigation, examination, etc. the actual cause(s) are determinate. This is within actual Science Philosophy, Scientific Method-Methodology. There are no such developed, determined principles, mechanism, causation within Biology, Psychology, Sociology, all '-ology'[=Study] Fields of Study. With correction, repair, fixing, this engine can, will operate, function properly again With full proper, thorough examination, investigation, knowing the proper principles, mechanics, mechanism, etc. then through proper using these, with proper attained, gather evidence measurements, etc. within the proper methods including proper thinking, reason, logic, reasoning within proper assessment, evaluation, differentiation, discernment, analysis, including proper troubleshooting, problem solving, determination, conclusions, solutions, corrections, repairs. These are the base, basis, basic with which those which trained, instructed, taught, developed my abilities, capabilities, reason, logic, reasoning, methods within mechanics, mechanical, industrial, electrical, electrical, troubleshooting, repair, correction problem solving, design development, problem solving, verification, certification, engineering, science, physics, chemistry, materials, advanced mathematics, structures, statics, dynamics, communications, etc. throughout my life [64 yrs] during the last 54+ years. @chesterwsmith Chester W Smith, there is a term called "Biopsy" within Pathology, which certainly applies only to, with, biology, biological, 'living', entities, organisms, creations, creatures; "Bio-"=living =>thus are You attempting use this biology term within mechanics, mechanical, machine, engine, which is clearly, certainly incorrect, invalid, improper, nonsensical too. perhaps You could propose, initiate, invoke a new term like "autotopsy", "motortospy", "enginetopsy", "machinetopsy", "machtopsy" or some other appropriate convolution ?🤔 All The Best and Much Success in Your Quest(s), Health, Happiness and Well Being 😊, Sincerely 😚
This guy doesn't bull shit he tells it like it is and doesn't hide anything that is a business man right there.. keep up the great work love the videos
These are small cute engines to any marine mech. I work on stuff that ticks over at this bhp level only it has magnitudes more torque. I still find it fascinating that Steve can get this sort of power from a block that size and it be relatively reliable. You'd think any block that size would go bang around the 2500hp mark at the very most.
Steve is willing to show the good and bad. There is a massive amount of respect due for someone who takes pride in his work & will show his ass if something isn't jiving. There is not weird video cuts, not skipping anything in cuts that might show a "aw damn...whoopsie.." If every builder, or even basic mechanic lived by this work ethic, the motorsports/regular automotive world would be 100,000x better.
Forensics actually requires a proper set of principles, reason, logic, reasoning and does not apply to machines which have definite, define,d known, established principles, which have physics, chemistry, materials, principles, advanced mathematics, structures, statics, dynamics which are all determinate; not guesswork, hunches, guesess, estimation, 'guestimation', trial&error', similar -> except for those lacking with, within proper principles, knowledge, science, physics, methods. Perhaps You enjoy investigation, assessment, evaluation, troubleshooting, problem solving and similar ? All The Best , Sincerely
@newtonfirefly3584 "The term forensic refers to the application of scientific knowledge to problems, especially scientific analysis of physical evidence" Seems like it fits to me. Forensic engineering is a distinct field. Perhaps you just like putting people down in comments in UA-cam
@@chiggsmcfallen2711 Chiggs McFallen which dictionary are You basing Your claims upon ?? Obviously you also lack the proper concept about, with, within engineering which only uses science, physics, chemistry, materials. Thus even with YOur distorted view of forensics, to contrive "forensic engineering" is similar to, with, "Dept. of Redundancy Dept." Actual definitions of forensics is the use of science within solving crimes, thus specific legal use. Good Luck -> Bye Bye
That certain smile he has when he really wants to say, "STFU, your DON'T know what you're talking about." I applaud the man for his patience. I couldn't be that nice.
some of us are marine mechs, air techs etc and have dealt with a lot bigger and more powerful engines more frequently than Steve, some people have jobs where they work on multiple engine types and could buy and sell Steve. Steve admits it too he said it in a vid where he showed the barra hes doing. I mean Barra is popular in the UK now too and we are up to speed with the Ausies.. does that give me the right to look down on Steve because im familiar with Barra and large marine engines? Coz i dont think it does. Also, Steve invited all the kids in when he asked Garrett to get him up to 400k subs. Cant moan now and he isn't. It seems to be you moaning so
@bigduphusaj162 not buttnhurt good luck getting a civilian job afterwards, get a degree while your there. I did diesel repair in the military , then tech school, 20 years OEM engine R&D for big 3. Look at the brightside, your great at assuming. Stay safe out there,
@@juniorthetuner5113cavitation causes extreme heat like this too and its notorious for only melting the very surface leaving the rest of the material fine, well at least for a while it does. Whats the possibilities of cavitation happening in there? is there any way air can be getting to that surface as or before its getting absolutely battered with oil?
Thank you for posting as much as you do about your shop to the people you work with as well as your own equipment and the challenges that come with that positive and negative. This is one of my more favorite channels. Thankful for how you explained and how you teaching guide. I wish all of you a blessed and beautiful rest of the season.
Steve, love your honesty of your engines. cannot wait for the engine to be back in Garretts car and doing good times on the track. Love your channel and Cleet's also. Keep up the good work guys.
Woo Steve!!! Having an adapter come apart on the dyno is some dangerous stuff! I've have instances where it wasn't torque'd enough but always caught it early enough to shut down safely. To be fair, I never used an adapter that small before, always some hulking billet piece with no account for lightening.
Really enjoyed this video Steve everyone has seen mullet run but the in depth autopsy of mullets engine was pretty educational and told by a true professional teacher thanks Steve and team
Cleetus' main signal for engine issues is oil pressure. Low pressure has always meant a quick end for the motor. He's got too much invested in your SMX to take chances like that so it wasn't a surprise when he called it instead of letting 'er eat. Glad that's all it was. Now they have a new trick in their book when it comes time to diagnostics. Thanks for the great info!
It seems like Steve is super competent. It’s funny when he said it makes too much horsepower. 30 years ago top fuel barely made this much power and those engines only lasted one run, then were rebuilt. It seems like a lot to ask for it to last as long as they do. Great channel. I always learn something.
@@causeimbatmaaan Sure about that? The 1990 TF record was Gary Ormsby 9-29-90 4.881 / 296.05 NHRA Topeka KS I don't have the weight of a TF car of that era but I have run numbers for a believable range. ( current weight is just over 2,300 LB near as I can tell ) The Wallace Racing calculator says 4.88 in a 2,000 LB car is 3,400 HP / 2,300 LB car is 3,900 HP. / 2,500 LB car is 4,250 HP
@@causeimbatmaaan And to complete the process Lyle Fisher ( Speed Sport 2 owned by Red Greth and Lyle Fisher ) TF 8.035 3-1960 / 183.67 10-10-1960 Records show it weighed 1,500 lb This calculates to 575 HP
@@bobroberts2371 Yeah I'm sure. TF in the sixties was in the 4000 range. Btw, gross horsepower has nothing to do with what you can put down on the track and there's been a thousand improvements between the flywheel and track surface since then. No TF car today can lay down 100% power still, no doubt power available has significantly increased.
I don't know how you deal with the arm chair experts. I'm a detail guy when it comes to my engine work. I don't have near the knowledge that you have but I just love putting something together just once and having it be perfect. I really enjoy watching you at your craft.
I am the same way, his first few videos I watched about a year-and-a-half ago I was not so sure I didn't the guy know or much about his channel or what he did. I am now glad I didn't make an emotional decision to just never watch the channel again. I really like the fact that he not only shows the positive but he shows a negative shows the corrections and he shows the daily challenges that you have when you start pulling horsepower. Thank you very much.
@ronjones-6977 was just talking with a guy the other day how there is so much more access to knowledge, like incredible knowledge like this. Imagine how much more the 15yo right now with extreme passion is going to know than us. Pretty cool to be those kids.
@@damianallicks2481 You do realize that actual professional mechanics never reveal all of the knowledge needed in their building process! Did you build your engine from top to bottom or did you just do a swap, Because I highly doubt that you learned every possible detail in order to build an engine that not only runs but also withstand the abuse! I have been a mechanic for over 26 years and I can tell you that almost every video I watch I almost never see a person do an entire job correctly, Obviously I am not talking about people like Steve or other people Who are actual professionals, I am talking about all of the UA-camrs pretending to be a mechanics!
@@NeverEnoughPyro40 i built my motor from top to bottom. And yes he doesnt disclose everything but he gives some amazing tips and ways to build them easier
As someone who has worked in diagnostics of various machinery/electronics as well as having a lifelong passion for anything with an engine and motorsports I love these types of videos where we get to find the deeply hidden issues that just won't go away. There's always a solution to a problem and thanks for showing everything in such detail. Also, you're just a cool dude so that's a plus. Also also, guy with the long hair, I've seen him somewhere else. Any hints?
It's interesting watching other techs go through their diagnostic process, with commentary. Kind of like an "Armchair Quarterback" situation, on some channels, where I can get annoyed at the missteps they take. But definitely not here, oh no this is where the student takes notes! And where else can you watch a front-to back teardown of such badass, second to none hardware?
@ @cozfpv591 First of all there is no deeply hidden issue and the solution is pretty simple! The issue is Cletus did not flush all of the lines, oil can or any other component that has oil running through it, The solution is Cletus and clowns should stop doing their own work! Let’s face it Steve has been building engines for years successfully meanwhile Cletus almost always breaks or has issues with everything that they touch!
Clear and concise, it's absolutely incredible how much air is being moved to make these cars run this hard. Addressing comments while being respectful, and without being condescending. Incredible businessman
I’ve been messing with cars for 20-25 years now. But I always watch these type videos to learn stuff. Guys like Steve are just a Wealth of information. Fascinating stuff to hear his expert insight into these high end builds. 😎🇺🇸
I’ve worked on engines, rebuilt engines, and even modified a few, but this makes me understand when people say Built an Engine 😂 I like learning so much watching your videos. Obviously can’t take in everything, but I feel more informed with every one. It helps that I feel invested in learning because I get to see SM engines powering down the track in so many awesome cars.
You and Cleet is so good for you both I’m sure your very busy, but having the builder of the best drag UA-camr works so well for you both. Great content Thank you.
i stopped asking questions a long time ago. the engines you build are so far out of my league everything you showing after you explain why you did it a certain way. i know why you did it. but how you did it and what its cost just blows my mind. it took me a year and $40000 to build my house doing it 100% myself and took every dime i had to build it and just your heads and rear end cost more than my entire house. but i love watching and learning new stuff even though i will never be able to afford it. great job as always.
Its ok bud, you got a roof over your head for you and yours, that is way more than a lot of folks can claim these days, and you did it for 40k , I am impressed 👍
@@kevinmccubbin2385 thanks its not 100% done but i would say about 90% just all the little crap trim and stuff like that but i do a little each month. plus its half the size of the old house 1152 sq feet.
@@MadsWorld34good lad. I built my own pad here in Scotland. When i was still in the military i bought two cheap as chips flats that were needing done up. Done them up myself and rented one sold the other to get my building materials and buy the land. Took about 5yr in total i lived in a static on the land while i was doing it and a lot of my mates called me a gypsie for a few years 😂 They dont call me that now as its worth around £750k now and being in Scotland houses are cheap you can get a 5 bed house three bathrooms and garage for £220k. This place is huge though and has a garage that i can fit boats in. Glad i did it but never again mate im glad im staying here till i die as nobody has many full house builds in them. Well worth it though.
Steve, if the block grew and added clearance between rear thrust and front thrust it would give opportunity for the crank to move further forward and in turn decrease clearance on the rear thrust.
Intake doesn't go into the oil but it does have oil being fed to it's 2 Roller bearings and that oil then returns to the crankcase or a catch can of some sort which then leads to the crankcase....any thing is possible
@chrishamil254 womder where that oil drain from the turbos goes? Hmmmmmm couldn't go back to the oil pan? If the bearings are chewing up in the turbos it would put some material into intake from impellor and housing. And bearing material would go into oil pan. Thank you for your input though 😀
Just thinking Steve, as the block heats up, it will grow more in length than the crankshaft. As such the front thrust will be further away from the rear thrust than when it is cold. Haven't bothered to do any maths, but it should be possible to calculate without too much difficulty. Love your work. Regards Greg
Was thinking the same thing when he discussed the seven thousandths tolerance on the crank last video. Like yeah she’s perfect now that it’s cooled all the way down and not under load or fresh off a run. Very surprised he didn’t seem to consider that when going thru everything.
If it's a compound issue, with heat, expansion rates and the pressure from the converter, added to maybe a little dynamic shortening from twisting the crank just slightly at peak torque, and some flex in the thrust bearing housing. It could be why it's tagging the bearing. Not knowing how much pressure the converter is applying and the amount of movement that much pressure causes in the crank, it's just a guess, but probably get a thou at most static, but add the twist and it might be enough.
My uncle is my engine builder and I learned a long time ago, no matter how much I thought I knew about engines, he's forgot more than I'll ever know. I just pay the engine build and don't ask questions. This a guy with over 40 years of engine building experience. These guys, like Steve know what they are talking about.
Im not mechanically minded at all ,thats why you guys know whats going on and i havent a clue, but the way Steve does this type of content, i actually think ive learnt something today, cheers Steve. Hope everyone has a good weekend, where ever you guys are in the world, Truro Cornwall England
Steve, I love the through analysis when things go wrong. Most engine builders only show the good things on their engines. The scope of designing an entire engine to live in HP numbers such as these will always require a lot more inspection and maintenance than an off the shelf build. That's the only way to make them better. It would be interesting to set up the block and crank vertically in a press. Dial indicator on the front of the roller thrust housing, and push the crank down to deflect the front of the roller thrust .020, and see what amount of pressure it takes to do that. Although it would probably damage the roller thrust to test it this way.
I called that stuck bypass in the comments on your last video. Those boys have some fine trash in the tank/lines and pumped a slither into the bypass bore causing it to stick!
I am going with there was a bit of trash left either in the tank or the line from the last rapid unscheduled disassembly that finally worked its way loose with some of the launches that went through the pressure side and caused the issues.
Engineer here. The debris could be a piece of spring from the broken bypass. I’ve had it happen plenty of times manually exercising relief valves. Edit: at least I didn’t talk about a petcock valve.
David Wright, Your claim about "forensics" is incorrect, invalid, distorted outside of proper terms, ideas, concepts, principles. Forensics is a term, process for a completely different set of circumstances, issues, area, and requires much higher level reason, logic, reasoning, knowledge, than any engine builder, mechanic, similar have. Forensics is actually used within areas which have higher level knowledge, principles, uses some areas of basic science, physics, materials, chemistry when needed, appropriate which are accurate, precise, exact, have causation, mechanism, proof, defined, determinate, and combines with other areas of information, claims, ideas, concepts which lack these aspects as biology. Good Luck, All The Best, Sincerely
Love the honesty and transparency. As a team manager myself we run into these issues all the time. Its all easy in retrospect! Only additional thing possible would be to swap a spare pump in at the track and rule out a pump issue. Its not a ton of work to replace a dry sump pump and most guys with a 4k hp motor carry a spare :)
@@gmabailey40 well, it was the idle oil pressure issue. Which ofcourse is scary because one would think the excess pressure on crank & oil pressure could be related
Hasn't/isn't showing the line and tank cleaning. That wasn't sent to the shop so we'll have to see if Cleetus provides that. There's surely a spring that operates the bypass too, wondering if it broke or trash froze it.
he got stick for reliability for a while just then and it might have been justified. We apreciate hes a busy boy but you cannot continually turn up to events with last minute fixes and untested equipment that breaks all over the place while you are a company trading for profit in the motorsports enviroment. People go off what they see at the track or strip mate and if your car or engines arent cutting it you're going to get told that to your face quickly. This is called "the reality of motorsport" and its exactly where it should be. If your product goes off the boil you often need shouted down till you sort it. Whats the alternative? everyone brown nosing him and claiming he can do no wrong? whos that helping?
@@bigduphusaj162 i mean his stuff is reliable plus cleetus going to a smx was rushed so installation was rushed vs the old motor that wasnt rushed was super reliable i dont think this is a steve issue maybe some parts but he builds some reliable stuff im my opinion
You were spot on with that Steve and also with me not being subscribed I updated that but I'm sure that I watched You a few days ago and I accessed it on my subscribers link anyway I like Your content nice diagnostics on that engine
I love Steve’s ‘processing’ head when he’s looking off into the distance. You can see the gears in his brain turning….. video editor surly you overlay a ‘processing’ banner with a sound bite for future lol
I believe that Mullet was running very high oil pressure when the motor fist went in,even blew the oil seal in a turbo or two. Do you think the oil pump relief was stuck closed at first? This would over pressure the pump it’s self and damage the rotors and/or the pump housing? I think it blew the oil pump belt at one time aswell. Just a thought
I was thinking maybe the material came from the turbo after the seals had failed.i do remember that being a problem. But it would depend on where the turbo drains would go to
That's what I was wondering but wouldn't you see that on the suction side of the oil pump? The only other thing I could think of is the return lines from the turbos. Maybe the bushings could be failing.
It looks like all the parts you showed, the oil pump would have to have the most damaged. Regardless of what it might be, this is so awesome to do a video like this.
For sure. I recall Tye mentioning that he had to be very fast when fabbing that oil tank. Can't help but wonder if there might have been any slag left in there that could have created debris. Alternatively, some stuff might have come from the oil cooler seeing that they used the same cooler in both the BBC and after the SMX had its initial issue. I'd check that tank and replace the lines and cooler to be sure.
Awesome that there's nothing major wrong. Who knows, maybe the debris in the filter is still chunks of stuff still wedged in a corner somewhere from the rods getting blown out, or the tip of the mesh filter getting chewed off, or... That poor motor has been through a lot, and still rocks 🤘
Steve, a comment regarding the high pressure section of the oil pump. It appears that the pressure relief valve is of the "spool" type which are great at accurately modulating oil pressure but as you have found out they are very susceptible to contamination. As you said the high pressure pump gets it's oil from the oil tank so it is imperative that the oil in the tank be as clean as possible. That is only possible by insuring that all oil put into the tank, both the return from the scavenger sections of the pump, also from any new oil that is poured into the tank and by possible ingress of contamination through the tanks breather. The most important is the return from the engine through the scavenger sections. The best way to ensure that this oil is clean is to combine all of the sections into one return line to the tank and in that line install a large industrial filter that has a minimum 10 micron rating with "beta" rating of at least 100. Beta rating is a measure of filter efficiency at the filter's rated micron particle size. A Beta rating of 100 for a 10 micron filter means that the filters single pass efficiency is 99.99% efficient for removing 10 micron or larger particles. Use only filters that use fiberglass media, do not use automotive filters as they are almost all paper filters that are very inefficient and have high pressure drop.Use industrial filters made by Pall (the best), Hydac or Parker. Use a large filter, one that has a nominal flow rating of 100 gpm would be a minimum. The larger the filter, the slower the oil goes through the filter the better the filter works. These filters are not cheap, but neither is your engine! Also do not use screen filters, they are very high pressure drop for ratings in the 20 micron or lower also regardless of what the manufactures say, you can not clean them by back washing them with solvent. You would be amazed by the amount of contamination that is in "new" oil so it is good to pour new oil into the tank using some sort of filter and do not try to get every single drop out of the can as most of the contamination has settled to the bottom of the can or bottle and comes out with the last drop. Use some sort of good air filter on the tank breather to prevent ingestion of air born contamination as the tank breathes from the oil level fluctuating. Before retiring I was an application engineer for one the major industrial hydraulic pump manufactures and worked on hydraulic systems that ran at 5-6000 psi with flow rates of several hundred gallons per minute and on all of the systems the "return line" filter system was the key to clean system oil. As always I love your "lessons" and your open mindedness! Keep it up! Rex Schimmer
@@rexschimmer7394 You do realize that this is not Steve’s first engine, He has been building these for years without any issues! Everything that you have mentioned has nothing to do with the actual engine, Steve is an engine builder you should go leave this comment on Cletus‘s page! After all Steve has a solid reputation in the racing world meanwhile Cletus is constantly breaking, hurting or having issues with almost everything that they touch! He did not find out anything that he didn’t already know he just does not want to say what the actual problem is, You do realize that Cletus has almost no automotive knowledge! Thinking he does is like saying my father-in-law learning how to do a break job from UA-cam makes him a mechanic!
I commented on the last video that one of the turbos was having oil feeding issues, and now that the preasure side of the pump has some gunk in it, i'm dead sure that the turbo sent some crap through the return line to the oil tank
Thats all we have left. Building my escape hatch in florida shortly. Wont be too far from Cleetus either, like an hour south or thereabouts. Im really doubting a future for this state. Steve should start building his building down there, this place is not going to be worth staying in. There is no Michigan anymore, we now live in Illinois, the R's are working hand in glove with the D's to destroy it all.
Dude whoever gets the dyno drive shaft will be so lucky. i cant imagine the power and torque that thing has seen. only if it could talk, WOW, I best she has some stories. Learn alot from your videos thanks for all you do Steve. Wanna make it to Martin to see the Boostmaster Wagon asap I been slacking unfortunately but looking to get back into the grove 😊😊 no pun intended ☺
I love how so many people "know" whats going on in the engine when Steve Morris, the *designer and racer of this very engine* tells you originally that what you think it was, it wasn't. And even with proof in their face, the idiots will still try to insist they're right and likely without even pulling an engine apart, let alone build one from a billet block. Keep kicking ass Steve.
Name an engine builder that finds flaws or brags on his engines then also fixes issues,Steve is top notch and I dont care whos making high hp engines,2500hp plus and arranty,beats all the stock automotive dealers hahahaha.great videos and informitive,great brand and if your lucky to get his engine your blessed.
@@jestablitz3804 @tico4940; There are a many others, which don't brag, and more that don't have yt-channels, and just achieve, though some with channels too: PME [Dennis & company], 'Real Good at Doin' Stuff'-Pete (Garrett's frequent, more recent tuner), David Vizard, Nick['s Garage], Gerald Brand [(friend, of Justin Shearer-Chief) Brand Racing Engines], R.E.D. , EFI Univ, TKM, and many more; especially those within NHRA/IHARA/PDRA/NPK, No-Prep, etc. Good Luck
Back in my younger, and “overkill”, days I would change perfectly good bearings in my BBC race motors. I still have a number of boxes of good used bearings in my build room. It looks like the material in the filter had to have come from the pump or the tank, the rest of the motor looks fine.
Many good smart people in here who comment but like all channels you got dudes who think dings on aluminum blocks makes the engine bad just kills me. Probably the same ones who are confused what bathroom they should use. Thanks for yet another great Video with yet again no issues with a well built SMX engine even if it has dings in it. Thank you Steve and crew for another Bad Ass Video. God Bless
Garrett, I remember watching a footage of a race car. It wasn't only another racer. It was a Ford Taurus station wagon with a big block hemi engine. I so much want to watch it nNy more time, except I'm not able to find it on UA-cam. I believe it was possibly the fastest in its category. No, it didn't have steel body panels. It was possibly fiber glass or another one material. Do you remember the Ford Five Hundred? That's when Ford bought Volve cars. They used hydro forming for some of the components of that car. It was the model before that Five Hundred that thst racer was based on. The reason why I remembered it is because of that Chevy Caprice wagon.
Did Clets team go through the oil tank and hoses the last time? I know in Late Model Dirt cars after engine failure they clean the tank throughly and throw the hoses away.
It’s not uncommon in dirt latemodel with dry sump engines to simply throw the oil tank,lines,cooler and everything in the dumpster instead of risking sending junk from a previous blow up thru a fresh engine
This is what social media should be all about. No politics or BS. Just horsepower and education. Keep it up brother Steve!!
True, the internet is whatever you what it to be. That's why I avoid pointless social media channels and content as much as I can. Kind of hard today though, content like this is becoming less and less common, compared to drama and propaganda.
Let’s make it that way again block all the douchebags lol
Amen peace be with you Brother Steve
I agree 💯👍
Agreed 100%
When Steve says "... especially with Garett"
There's kind of a mix of respect, and sadness, in Steve's voice.
Like he knows his old girlfriend is having a really, _really_ good time these days lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Professional autopsy with a clean, understandable final report of this engine. Thanks Steve!
Autopsy is a report on a dead body!! Thankfully this motor will live again!!📈🌝
@@highpointsights Biopsy!
@@highpointsights You're right. Time for the revival procedure!
@@highpointsights Your are correct that an autopsy is performed upon a human body after death
An autopsy is an examination of the dead body within every aspect of the body including cutting it open to examine the internal organs with the purpose to find evidence indications, measurements, details with the intention, purpose, aim to determine the apparent means, paths, causes of death.
A motor-engine does not live have life. This engine actually was still operating, functioning. There was/is evidence, indications, including very low oil pressure, a broken inner valve spring, tiny metal shavings in the oil, especially the oil filter which collected, thus concern with significant wear, damage within internal parts, metal components
Mechanical, physical, electrical, machines, electronics, etc. have principles with which they operate, function, per the physics. Thus there is exact, precise, accurate principles, mechanism, causes, thus with full, proper investigation, examination, etc. the actual cause(s) are determinate. This is within actual Science Philosophy, Scientific Method-Methodology.
There are no such developed, determined principles, mechanism, causation within Biology, Psychology, Sociology, all '-ology'[=Study] Fields of Study.
With correction, repair, fixing, this engine can, will operate, function properly again
With full proper, thorough examination, investigation, knowing the proper principles, mechanics, mechanism, etc. then through proper using these, with proper attained, gather evidence measurements, etc. within the proper methods including proper thinking, reason, logic, reasoning within proper assessment, evaluation, differentiation, discernment, analysis, including proper troubleshooting, problem solving, determination, conclusions, solutions, corrections, repairs.
These are the base, basis, basic with which those which trained, instructed, taught, developed my abilities, capabilities, reason, logic, reasoning, methods within mechanics, mechanical, industrial, electrical, electrical, troubleshooting, repair, correction problem solving, design development, problem solving, verification, certification, engineering, science, physics, chemistry, materials, advanced mathematics, structures, statics, dynamics, communications, etc. throughout my life [64 yrs] during the last 54+ years.
@chesterwsmith Chester W Smith, there is a term called "Biopsy" within Pathology, which certainly applies only to, with, biology, biological, 'living', entities, organisms, creations, creatures; "Bio-"=living =>thus are You attempting use this biology term within mechanics, mechanical, machine, engine, which is clearly, certainly incorrect, invalid, improper, nonsensical too.
perhaps You could propose, initiate, invoke a new term like "autotopsy", "motortospy", "enginetopsy", "machinetopsy", "machtopsy" or some other appropriate convolution ?🤔
All The Best and Much Success in Your Quest(s), Health, Happiness and Well Being 😊, Sincerely 😚
@@newtonfirefly3584just no camera in the exhaust pipe.
I love how many keyboard hero’s are literally arguing with one of the top engine builders on the planet.
This guy doesn't bull shit he tells it like it is and doesn't hide anything that is a business man right there.. keep up the great work love the videos
Even though I’ll never have anything close to this caliber of performance I still find your videos very informative. Thanks Steve!
I think a lot of us identify with that statement..🤘🏻😎
You can do anything you put your mind to. Don't have to start at this level of engine but building any engine is fun.
@@duanebailey6253 and dreams are free..
These are small cute engines to any marine mech. I work on stuff that ticks over at this bhp level only it has magnitudes more torque. I still find it fascinating that Steve can get this sort of power from a block that size and it be relatively reliable. You'd think any block that size would go bang around the 2500hp mark at the very most.
looks like someone ignored the warning at the beginning of the video
Steve is willing to show the good and bad. There is a massive amount of respect due for someone who takes pride in his work & will show his ass if something isn't jiving. There is not weird video cuts, not skipping anything in cuts that might show a "aw damn...whoopsie.." If every builder, or even basic mechanic lived by this work ethic, the motorsports/regular automotive world would be 100,000x better.
My favorite part of working at sassy race engines years ago was disassembly and forensics. Good job Steve.
It is the little things that can save future problems.
Forensics actually requires a proper set of principles, reason, logic, reasoning and does not apply to machines which have definite, define,d known, established principles, which have physics, chemistry, materials, principles, advanced mathematics, structures, statics, dynamics which are all determinate; not guesswork, hunches, guesess, estimation, 'guestimation', trial&error', similar -> except for those lacking with, within proper principles, knowledge, science, physics, methods.
Perhaps You enjoy investigation, assessment, evaluation, troubleshooting, problem solving and similar ? All The Best , Sincerely
@newtonfirefly3584 "The term forensic refers to the application of scientific knowledge to problems, especially scientific analysis of physical evidence"
Seems like it fits to me. Forensic engineering is a distinct field. Perhaps you just like putting people down in comments in UA-cam
@@newtonfirefly3584nope. Wrong. Try again.
@@chiggsmcfallen2711 Chiggs McFallen which dictionary are You basing Your claims upon ??
Obviously you also lack the proper concept about, with, within engineering which only uses science, physics, chemistry, materials. Thus even with YOur distorted view of forensics, to contrive "forensic engineering" is similar to, with, "Dept. of Redundancy Dept."
Actual definitions of forensics is the use of science within solving crimes, thus specific legal use.
Good Luck -> Bye Bye
I love how you handle all the keyboard bench builders with education, and explanation. Which works for me
That certain smile he has when he really wants to say, "STFU, your DON'T know what you're talking about." I applaud the man for his patience. I couldn't be that nice.
some of us are marine mechs, air techs etc and have dealt with a lot bigger and more powerful engines more frequently than Steve, some people have jobs where they work on multiple engine types and could buy and sell Steve. Steve admits it too he said it in a vid where he showed the barra hes doing. I mean Barra is popular in the UK now too and we are up to speed with the Ausies.. does that give me the right to look down on Steve because im familiar with Barra and large marine engines? Coz i dont think it does. Also, Steve invited all the kids in when he asked Garrett to get him up to 400k subs. Cant moan now and he isn't. It seems to be you moaning so
@@bigduphusaj162 should be a pinned comment honestly, because you're 100% right! He's the one taking the time and energy to record this stuff too
@bigduphusaj162 not buttnhurt good luck getting a civilian job afterwards, get a degree while your there. I did diesel repair in the military , then tech school, 20 years OEM engine R&D for big 3. Look at the brightside, your great at assuming. Stay safe out there,
Haha Keyboard bench builders I like that!
I so enjoy your show. As a fellow drag racer for over 50yrs I know the little things can grab you.
Usually purple converter is lack 9f cooler flow orcooler bypass stuck open. Do you have a thermostat in the cooler lines for the trans.?
For me, it is ALWAYS the little things.
@@juniorthetuner5113cavitation causes extreme heat like this too and its notorious for only melting the very surface leaving the rest of the material fine, well at least for a while it does. Whats the possibilities of cavitation happening in there? is there any way air can be getting to that surface as or before its getting absolutely battered with oil?
Thank you for posting as much as you do about your shop to the people you work with as well as your own equipment and the challenges that come with that positive and negative. This is one of my more favorite channels. Thankful for how you explained and how you teaching guide. I wish all of you a blessed and beautiful rest of the season.
I love the details shared in trying to diagnose this issue. For what these motors cost... you can't rationally just "send it" with 9 psi oil pressure!
bailey might have,,,,lol
@@tomstiel7576 i did say "rationally " 😉
Steve, love your honesty of your engines. cannot wait for the engine to be back in Garretts car and doing good times on the track. Love your channel and Cleet's also. Keep up the good work guys.
Woo Steve!!! Having an adapter come apart on the dyno is some dangerous stuff! I've have instances where it wasn't torque'd enough but always caught it early enough to shut down safely. To be fair, I never used an adapter that small before, always some hulking billet piece with no account for lightening.
Really enjoyed this video Steve everyone has seen mullet run but the in depth autopsy of mullets engine was pretty educational and told by a true professional teacher thanks Steve and team
Cleetus' main signal for engine issues is oil pressure. Low pressure has always meant a quick end for the motor. He's got too much invested in your SMX to take chances like that so it wasn't a surprise when he called it instead of letting 'er eat. Glad that's all it was. Now they have a new trick in their book when it comes time to diagnostics. Thanks for the great info!
It seems like Steve is super competent. It’s funny when he said it makes too much horsepower. 30 years ago top fuel barely made this much power and those engines only lasted one run, then were rebuilt. It seems like a lot to ask for it to last as long as they do. Great channel. I always learn something.
Uh no, more like 60 years ago.
@@causeimbatmaaan Sure about that? The 1990 TF record was Gary Ormsby 9-29-90 4.881 / 296.05 NHRA Topeka KS I don't have the weight of a TF car of that era but I have run numbers for a believable range. ( current weight is just over 2,300 LB near as I can tell )
The Wallace Racing calculator says 4.88 in a 2,000 LB car is 3,400 HP / 2,300 LB car is 3,900 HP. / 2,500 LB car is 4,250 HP
@@causeimbatmaaan And to complete the process Lyle Fisher ( Speed Sport 2 owned by Red Greth and Lyle Fisher ) TF 8.035 3-1960 / 183.67 10-10-1960 Records show it weighed 1,500 lb This calculates to 575 HP
@@bobroberts2371 Yeah I'm sure. TF in the sixties was in the 4000 range. Btw, gross horsepower has nothing to do with what you can put down on the track and there's been a thousand improvements between the flywheel and track surface since then. No TF car today can lay down 100% power still, no doubt power available has significantly increased.
@@bobroberts2371not sure thats true mate. Here in the UK the most powerful drag cars at santa pod were making 8-9k bhp in the 90s.
I don't know how you deal with the arm chair experts. I'm a detail guy when it comes to my engine work. I don't have near the knowledge that you have but I just love putting something together just once and having it be perfect. I really enjoy watching you at your craft.
Thanks Steve for sharing this, you’re a wealth of knowledge.
Im starting to love to watch your content. Its how i learned to huild the coyote v8 in my mustang. Much love and keep up the good work💯💯
I am the same way, his first few videos I watched about a year-and-a-half ago I was not so sure I didn't the guy know or much about his channel or what he did. I am now glad I didn't make an emotional decision to just never watch the channel again. I really like the fact that he not only shows the positive but he shows a negative shows the corrections and he shows the daily challenges that you have when you start pulling horsepower. Thank you very much.
I learned from a book and my idiot friends. Knowledge like this would have been so nice.
@ronjones-6977 was just talking with a guy the other day how there is so much more access to knowledge, like incredible knowledge like this. Imagine how much more the 15yo right now with extreme passion is going to know than us. Pretty cool to be those kids.
@@damianallicks2481 You do realize that actual professional mechanics never reveal all of the knowledge needed in their building process! Did you build your engine from top to bottom or did you just do a swap, Because I highly doubt that you learned every possible detail in order to build an engine that not only runs but also withstand the abuse! I have been a mechanic for over 26 years and I can tell you that almost every video I watch I almost never see a person do an entire job correctly, Obviously I am not talking about people like Steve or other people Who are actual professionals, I am talking about all of the UA-camrs pretending to be a mechanics!
@@NeverEnoughPyro40 i built my motor from top to bottom. And yes he doesnt disclose everything but he gives some amazing tips and ways to build them easier
As someone who has worked in diagnostics of various machinery/electronics as well as having a lifelong passion for anything with an engine and motorsports I love these types of videos where we get to find the deeply hidden issues that just won't go away. There's always a solution to a problem and thanks for showing everything in such detail. Also, you're just a cool dude so that's a plus. Also also, guy with the long hair, I've seen him somewhere else. Any hints?
It's interesting watching other techs go through their diagnostic process, with commentary. Kind of like an "Armchair Quarterback" situation, on some channels, where I can get annoyed at the missteps they take. But definitely not here, oh no this is where the student takes notes! And where else can you watch a front-to back teardown of such badass, second to none hardware?
@ @cozfpv591 First of all there is no deeply hidden issue and the solution is pretty simple! The issue is Cletus did not flush all of the lines, oil can or any other component that has oil running through it, The solution is Cletus and clowns should stop doing their own work! Let’s face it Steve has been building engines for years successfully meanwhile Cletus almost always breaks or has issues with everything that they touch!
@@NeverEnoughPyro40 Ok buddy.. So you want Steve to go fly to Florida and install the engine?
your content just keeps getting better and better, thanks!
Clear and concise, it's absolutely incredible how much air is being moved to make these cars run this hard.
Addressing comments while being respectful, and without being condescending. Incredible businessman
Great video, hopefully jogs people into using their brains to troubleshoot their own gear
I'm pretty sure Steve will figure it out love ya work mate much respect from Australia
I’ve been messing with cars for 20-25 years now. But I always watch these type videos to learn stuff. Guys like Steve are just a Wealth of information. Fascinating stuff to hear his expert insight into these high end builds. 😎🇺🇸
I’ve worked on engines, rebuilt engines, and even modified a few, but this makes me understand when people say Built an Engine 😂 I like learning so much watching your videos. Obviously can’t take in everything, but I feel more informed with every one. It helps that I feel invested in learning because I get to see SM engines powering down the track in so many awesome cars.
Great video. Aside from oil pump, possible crumbs from previous damage to block shaking loose?
You and Cleet is so good for you both I’m sure your very busy, but having the builder of the best drag UA-camr works so well for you both. Great content
Thank you.
I love the jethro Tull style of music. Soothing,relaxing,& content is entertaining. Very knowledgeable too
I nailed it ...This was my comment from yesterday ..."What about stuff in the oil reservoir"
i stopped asking questions a long time ago. the engines you build are so far out of my league everything you showing after you explain why you did it a certain way. i know why you did it. but how you did it and what its cost just blows my mind. it took me a year and $40000 to build my house doing it 100% myself and took every dime i had to build it and just your heads and rear end cost more than my entire house. but i love watching and learning new stuff even though i will never be able to afford it. great job as always.
Its ok bud, you got a roof over your head for you and yours, that is way more than a lot of folks can claim these days, and you did it for 40k , I am impressed 👍
@@kevinmccubbin2385 How to say he's NOT in California without actually saying it. Good for him.
@@kevinmccubbin2385 thanks its not 100% done but i would say about 90% just all the little crap trim and stuff like that but i do a little each month. plus its half the size of the old house 1152 sq feet.
@@MadsWorld34good lad. I built my own pad here in Scotland. When i was still in the military i bought two cheap as chips flats that were needing done up. Done them up myself and rented one sold the other to get my building materials and buy the land. Took about 5yr in total i lived in a static on the land while i was doing it and a lot of my mates called me a gypsie for a few years 😂 They dont call me that now as its worth around £750k now and being in Scotland houses are cheap you can get a 5 bed house three bathrooms and garage for £220k. This place is huge though and has a garage that i can fit boats in. Glad i did it but never again mate im glad im staying here till i die as nobody has many full house builds in them. Well worth it though.
Whats the square footage?
Look fowrd to every upload brotha. no1 else shows the in and outs like you.
Forever learning and always amazed.
Keep doing what your doing Mr SMX
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Steve, if the block grew and added clearance between rear thrust and front thrust it would give opportunity for the crank to move further forward and in turn decrease clearance on the rear thrust.
This guy holds great information and I'm so glad he's here to share.
Look inside the intake. The turbos kept leaking oil. Might have been chewing themselves up
Yeah intake doesn't get into oil... smh
Intake doesn't go into the oil but it does have oil being fed to it's 2 Roller bearings and that oil then returns to the crankcase or a catch can of some sort which then leads to the crankcase....any thing is possible
@chrishamil254 womder where that oil drain from the turbos goes? Hmmmmmm couldn't go back to the oil pan? If the bearings are chewing up in the turbos it would put some material into intake from impellor and housing. And bearing material would go into oil pan. Thank you for your input though 😀
Dry sump, so possibly draining back to the tank, rather than adding load to the scavenging side, it is a possibility.
Just thinking Steve, as the block heats up, it will grow more in length than the crankshaft. As such the front thrust will be further away from the rear thrust than when it is cold. Haven't bothered to do any maths, but it should be possible to calculate without too much difficulty. Love your work. Regards Greg
Maybe the two different types of metal expanding at different rates of growth
Was thinking the same thing when he discussed the seven thousandths tolerance on the crank last video. Like yeah she’s perfect now that it’s cooled all the way down and not under load or fresh off a run. Very surprised he didn’t seem to consider that when going thru everything.
Mullet’s engine has more clearance than any other SMX.
If the block growing is causing problems here, it would be worse on all other engines.
Actually the heat and pressure from the transmission drive line etc can create a larger gap for a minimal amount of time
If it's a compound issue, with heat, expansion rates and the pressure from the converter, added to maybe a little dynamic shortening from twisting the crank just slightly at peak torque, and some flex in the thrust bearing housing. It could be why it's tagging the bearing. Not knowing how much pressure the converter is applying and the amount of movement that much pressure causes in the crank, it's just a guess, but probably get a thou at most static, but add the twist and it might be enough.
Take a shot every time he says “that looks fine”🤣🤣 jk dope to see a intricate tear down of engines. You’re a beast of a man Steve🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Steve, that is a beautiful engine you designed and built.
My uncle is my engine builder and I learned a long time ago, no matter how much I thought I knew about engines, he's forgot more than I'll ever know. I just pay the engine build and don't ask questions. This a guy with over 40 years of engine building experience. These guys, like Steve know what they are talking about.
Great episode, love Steve Morris engine's.
Im not mechanically minded at all ,thats why you guys know whats going on and i havent a clue, but the way Steve does this type of content, i actually think ive learnt something today, cheers Steve. Hope everyone has a good weekend, where ever you guys are in the world, Truro Cornwall England
Have a good weekend too bud, from st austell, cornwall
@@richardc5728 what part, I use to be moorland rd
Steve, I love the through analysis when things go wrong. Most engine builders only show the good things on their engines. The scope of designing an entire engine to live in HP numbers such as these will always require a lot more inspection and maintenance than an off the shelf build. That's the only way to make them better. It would be interesting to set up the block and crank vertically in a press. Dial indicator on the front of the roller thrust housing, and push the crank down to deflect the front of the roller thrust .020, and see what amount of pressure it takes to do that. Although it would probably damage the roller thrust to test it this way.
Tell that cletus guy to turn it up and hit the gas. That is a beautiful engine, you have designed a work of art!
I love watchin him tear down engines it just is a stress relief and so satisfying keep up the good work man love the vids 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you for taking time out of your busy day to explain this stuff to us. You're an amazingly smart person bro!!!
I called that stuck bypass in the comments on your last video. Those boys have some fine trash in the tank/lines and pumped a slither into the bypass bore causing it to stick!
I am going with there was a bit of trash left either in the tank or the line from the last rapid unscheduled disassembly that finally worked its way loose with some of the launches that went through the pressure side and caused the issues.
New visitor to the channel, subscribing. Great video Steve!
What an inspiration to view true professionals breaking down real world post mortem mechanical data via disassembly of these engines. Great work!
Engineer here. The debris could be a piece of spring from the broken bypass. I’ve had it happen plenty of times manually exercising relief valves.
Edit: at least I didn’t talk about a petcock valve.
As a scientist and engineer, The problem is definitely kangaroos
@@adamwinters4448you sir, are correct.
NASA Rocket developer here. The problem is there is no problem...
Do you work for BNSF, Union Pacific, Norfolk, or ratty CSX.
Stop larping in UA-cam comments
Little things can cause big problems. Love these "forensic" videos.
David Wright, Your claim about "forensics" is incorrect, invalid, distorted outside of proper terms, ideas, concepts, principles. Forensics is a term, process for a completely different set of circumstances, issues, area, and requires much higher level reason, logic, reasoning, knowledge, than any engine builder, mechanic, similar have. Forensics is actually used within areas which have higher level knowledge, principles, uses some areas of basic science, physics, materials, chemistry when needed, appropriate which are accurate, precise, exact, have causation, mechanism, proof, defined, determinate, and combines with other areas of information, claims, ideas, concepts which lack these aspects as biology. Good Luck, All The Best, Sincerely
@@newtonfirefly3584 Take note of the quotation marks around that offending word as it should indicate the sense of humor I was implying.
@@davidwright640 no humor there David Wright either - just nonsense. Good Luck -> Bye Bye
These videos never fail to disappoint! Keep it up
Love the honesty and transparency. As a team manager myself we run into these issues all the time. Its all easy in retrospect! Only additional thing possible would be to swap a spare pump in at the track and rule out a pump issue. Its not a ton of work to replace a dry sump pump and most guys with a 4k hp motor carry a spare :)
Still wasnt the issue. There was something putting excess pressure on the crank. Hopefully they find the issue in the trans.
@@gmabailey40 well, it was the idle oil pressure issue. Which ofcourse is scary because one would think the excess pressure on crank & oil pressure could be related
Love the content Steve. You’re a madman bud. Super useful information in every video. Keep up the awesome job. Rock n roll bud. 🤘
You rock Steve, Looking forward to your videos more than Garrett
At the present time, you guys kind of go hand-in-hand.
Always enjoy your videos, thanks!
Steve thank you for posting these videos, I learn stuff lol.
I would have loved to see the oil tank and line cleaning
last video bro. part one he showed the oil pan
The oil tank, not the engine oil pan.
I suppose that would be on Garrett's channel as that stuff is in the car.
Hasn't/isn't showing the line and tank cleaning. That wasn't sent to the shop so we'll have to see if Cleetus provides that.
There's surely a spring that operates the bypass too, wondering if it broke or trash froze it.
The hoses were made new before sick week when motor went in car all hoses were new
I love how this man works. I don’t understand how anyone can talk bad about Steve, his motors or his company.
he got stick for reliability for a while just then and it might have been justified. We apreciate hes a busy boy but you cannot continually turn up to events with last minute fixes and untested equipment that breaks all over the place while you are a company trading for profit in the motorsports enviroment. People go off what they see at the track or strip mate and if your car or engines arent cutting it you're going to get told that to your face quickly. This is called "the reality of motorsport" and its exactly where it should be. If your product goes off the boil you often need shouted down till you sort it. Whats the alternative? everyone brown nosing him and claiming he can do no wrong? whos that helping?
@@bigduphusaj162 i mean his stuff is reliable plus cleetus going to a smx was rushed so installation was rushed vs the old motor that wasnt rushed was super reliable i dont think this is a steve issue maybe some parts but he builds some reliable stuff im my opinion
I can vouche for the quality of Steve's shirts. I was pleasantly surprised how good the quality was when I received mine. Thanks Steve.
You were spot on with that Steve and also with me not being subscribed I updated that but I'm sure that I watched You a few days ago and I accessed it on my subscribers link anyway I like Your content nice diagnostics on that engine
I love Steve’s ‘processing’ head when he’s looking off into the distance. You can see the gears in his brain turning….. video editor surly you overlay a ‘processing’ banner with a sound bite for future lol
You guyz and galz are killing it down there keep up the great work
I have been subscribed for many years, maybe as many as ten. One of my favorite channels.
Great work as always. Fascinating stuff this is.
I believe that Mullet was running very high oil pressure when the motor fist went in,even blew the oil seal in a turbo or two. Do you think the oil pump relief was stuck closed at first? This would over pressure the pump it’s self and damage the rotors and/or the pump housing? I think it blew the oil pump belt at one time aswell. Just a thought
I was thinking maybe the material came from the turbo after the seals had failed.i do remember that being a problem. But it would depend on where the turbo drains would go to
Hey Steve, really like your channel and all the content. Just wondering have you checked to see if any of your welds have flaked off.
That's what I was wondering but wouldn't you see that on the suction side of the oil pump? The only other thing I could think of is the return lines from the turbos. Maybe the bushings could be failing.
I thought the same thing when i saw the welds
Always good to see someone who really knows what there doing and you can learn from
I wish I had the knowledge this man has forgotten about the drive train. Awesome video as always.
It looks like all the parts you showed, the oil pump would have to have the most damaged.
Regardless of what it might be, this is so awesome to do a video like this.
Clean out the oil tank and look inside for cracking on welds ect 👍 Been their done that 😔
For sure. I recall Tye mentioning that he had to be very fast when fabbing that oil tank. Can't help but wonder if there might have been any slag left in there that could have created debris. Alternatively, some stuff might have come from the oil cooler seeing that they used the same cooler in both the BBC and after the SMX had its initial issue. I'd check that tank and replace the lines and cooler to be sure.
The mad scientist of engines! I see the exhaust kissed your left bicep. Gotta love workin on hot cars.
Cleet bends em n Steve mends em 😁 brilliant video and very informative Steve!!
Your great at explaining things!!
Have Garrett check his turbos, I’ve had turbos start eating themselves and he had mentioned he had one with a leaking seal.
I love how you take it so seriously, garrets or not.. still saving my pennies for a Steve Morris. Hope to do business with you someday
I did double check, still subscribed. Very very nice content Steve!!!!
Awesome that there's nothing major wrong. Who knows, maybe the debris in the filter is still chunks of stuff still wedged in a corner somewhere from the rods getting blown out, or the tip of the mesh filter getting chewed off, or... That poor motor has been through a lot, and still rocks 🤘
That's a gnarly rear main cap!
Its amazing how many world renowned engine builders there are on UA-cam when something goes wrong with one. 😂
Steve, a comment regarding the high pressure section of the oil pump. It appears that the pressure relief valve is of the "spool" type which are great at accurately modulating oil pressure but as you have found out they are very susceptible to contamination. As you said the high pressure pump gets it's oil from the oil tank so it is imperative that the oil in the tank be as clean as possible. That is only possible by insuring that all oil put into the tank, both the return from the scavenger sections of the pump, also from any new oil that is poured into the tank and by possible ingress of contamination through the tanks breather. The most important is the return from the engine through the scavenger sections. The best way to ensure that this oil is clean is to combine all of the sections into one return line to the tank and in that line install a large industrial filter that has a minimum 10 micron rating with "beta" rating of at least 100. Beta rating is a measure of filter efficiency at the filter's rated micron particle size. A Beta rating of 100 for a 10 micron filter means that the filters single pass efficiency is 99.99% efficient for removing 10 micron or larger particles. Use only filters that use fiberglass media, do not use automotive filters as they are almost all paper filters that are very inefficient and have high pressure drop.Use industrial filters made by Pall (the best), Hydac or Parker. Use a large filter, one that has a nominal flow rating of 100 gpm would be a minimum. The larger the filter, the slower the oil goes through the filter the better the filter works. These filters are not cheap, but neither is your engine! Also do not use screen filters, they are very high pressure drop for ratings in the 20 micron or lower also regardless of what the manufactures say, you can not clean them by back washing them with solvent.
You would be amazed by the amount of contamination that is in "new" oil so it is good to pour new oil into the tank using some sort of filter and do not try to get every single drop out of the can as most of the contamination has settled to the bottom of the can or bottle and comes out with the last drop.
Use some sort of good air filter on the tank breather to prevent ingestion of air born contamination as the tank breathes from the oil level fluctuating.
Before retiring I was an application engineer for one the major industrial hydraulic pump manufactures and worked on hydraulic systems that ran at 5-6000 psi with flow rates of several hundred gallons per minute and on all of the systems the "return line" filter system was the key to clean system oil.
As always I love your "lessons" and your open mindedness! Keep it up!
Rex Schimmer
@@rexschimmer7394 You do realize that this is not Steve’s first engine, He has been building these for years without any issues! Everything that you have mentioned has nothing to do with the actual engine, Steve is an engine builder you should go leave this comment on Cletus‘s page! After all Steve has a solid reputation in the racing world meanwhile Cletus is constantly breaking, hurting or having issues with almost everything that they touch! He did not find out anything that he didn’t already know he just does not want to say what the actual problem is, You do realize that Cletus has almost no automotive knowledge! Thinking he does is like saying my father-in-law learning how to do a break job from UA-cam makes him a mechanic!
“It’s always the little things that get ya” says the guy who broke all 8 rods at once lol
I commented on the last video that one of the turbos was having oil feeding issues, and now that the preasure side of the pump has some gunk in it, i'm dead sure that the turbo sent some crap through the return line to the oil tank
Steve Morris and Family.... the last thing Michigan can be proud of..... Core Values and Principles
God Bless You ALL
Thats all we have left. Building my escape hatch in florida shortly. Wont be too far from Cleetus either, like an hour south or thereabouts. Im really doubting a future for this state. Steve should start building his building down there, this place is not going to be worth staying in. There is no Michigan anymore, we now live in Illinois, the R's are working hand in glove with the D's to destroy it all.
Dude whoever gets the dyno drive shaft will be so lucky. i cant imagine the power and torque that thing has seen. only if it could talk, WOW, I best she has some stories. Learn alot from your videos thanks for all you do Steve. Wanna make it to Martin to see the Boostmaster Wagon asap I been slacking unfortunately but looking to get back into the grove 😊😊 no pun intended ☺
I love how so many people "know" whats going on in the engine when Steve Morris, the *designer and racer of this very engine* tells you originally that what you think it was, it wasn't. And even with proof in their face, the idiots will still try to insist they're right and likely without even pulling an engine apart, let alone build one from a billet block. Keep kicking ass Steve.
Can't wait to see what's going on with the wagon.
Name an engine builder that finds flaws or brags on his engines then also fixes issues,Steve is top notch and I dont care whos making high hp engines,2500hp plus and arranty,beats all the stock automotive dealers hahahaha.great videos and informitive,great brand and if your lucky to get his engine your blessed.
he shares all good or bad thats whats so awesome. Most would never show some of these things.
What a legend
@@jestablitz3804 @tico4940;
There are a many others, which don't brag, and more that don't have yt-channels, and just achieve, though some with channels too: PME [Dennis & company], 'Real Good at Doin' Stuff'-Pete (Garrett's frequent, more recent tuner), David Vizard, Nick['s Garage], Gerald Brand [(friend, of Justin Shearer-Chief) Brand Racing Engines], R.E.D. , EFI Univ, TKM, and many more; especially those within NHRA/IHARA/PDRA/NPK, No-Prep, etc.
Good Luck
Back in my younger, and “overkill”, days I would change perfectly good bearings in my BBC race motors. I still have a number of boxes of good used bearings in my build room.
It looks like the material in the filter had to have come from the pump or the tank, the rest of the motor looks fine.
Many good smart people in here who comment but like all channels you got dudes who think dings on aluminum blocks makes the engine bad just kills me. Probably the same ones who are confused what bathroom they should use. Thanks for yet another great Video with yet again no issues with a well built SMX engine even if it has dings in it. Thank you Steve and crew for another Bad Ass Video. God Bless
Garrett, I remember watching a footage of a race car. It wasn't only another racer. It was a Ford Taurus station wagon with a big block hemi engine. I so much want to watch it nNy more time, except I'm not able to find it on UA-cam. I believe it was possibly the fastest in its category. No, it didn't have steel body panels. It was possibly fiber glass or another one material. Do you remember the Ford Five Hundred? That's when Ford bought Volve cars. They used hydro forming for some of the components of that car. It was the model before that Five Hundred that thst racer was based on. The reason why I remembered it is because of that Chevy Caprice wagon.
Could it be something as simple as residual material left in the hoses after the pump ate it's self the last time?
Did Clets team go through the oil tank and hoses the last time? I know in Late Model Dirt cars after engine failure they clean the tank throughly and throw the hoses away.
First. My guess is the oil pump.
AGAIN
Again? Hahaahee!
My guess is the bearings due to the load angle of the converter.
My first guess yesterday also.
My guess was cam/ cam bearing
Now what
I love that you know what you're talking about and call people out for it. Can I get a hell yeah brother !
Thank Steve for taking time out of your busy schedule
@3:47, using a puller without an impact. Excellent!
Don't think they have a cam bearing puller though. That's a head scratcher huh?
Would it be smart for Cletus to flush and clean his oil tank? Sounds like it may have some material in it.? Great video!
Cleetus and Smart on the same sentence? You are a Mad Man i tell you!!!!
@@tuloko16 top bloke but so so true lmao
i wonder if this has ever been done or thought of.
It’s not uncommon in dirt latemodel with dry sump engines to simply throw the oil tank,lines,cooler and everything in the dumpster instead of risking sending junk from a previous blow up thru a fresh engine
Awesome video. Always so informative. Loved that backround misic while the disasseble. What is it?
Thanks for another great show Steve