I upgraded from KRK Rokit 8's to the previous version of the A77's. Was surprised at how much I was missing even in a room that technically wasn't the best accoustically.
I'm using the Adam's audio T7v. Very jealous of you new ones and now I have to start saving to get me a set of those!! Really enjoy the channel! You keep it real and do a wonderful job!
Awesome! I just want to add, that room correction software cannot fix time domain issues or standing waves. So it's always best to use acoustic treatment first (thick panels to control the bass response), and then use the room correction as a finishing touch.
@@SonicDriveStudio oh I bet you do!!!! If I stay mixing like I have been and keep focused I may be able to justify such a large purchase with my wife but for now I gotta sift through the budget market and I think I did quite well with my Kali’s. But to be clear, these are not my end game monitors. My first comment was before I realized these were a77h’s. I actually didn’t know these existed. I thought this video was on the a77x. Well now I’m even more interested! You can load sonarworks strait into the monitors?! YES PLEASE!!!!
No need whatsoever to replace those Kali's. That's what I use and they are true reference monitors. I've been through seven different monitor setups through the years. And the IN-8's are giving me mixes which translate perfectly to real world listening.
@@MeTuLHeD yeah when I first got these things I was in complete disbelief due to my mixes just working. Take it to the car, it’s good. Take it to the boom box it’s great. Use my wife’s headphones, holy crap this mix is solid… i think they put a little leprechaun inside each monitor to make everything sound right. I’ve also had several monitors over the years and yes these are by far the most accurate monitors I’ve ever used. But this can’t really be the end all be all… right????
I'm just a bedroom guitarist gear nerd, so my monitoring solution is either a solid state power amp into a cab, or my DT770s - for which I use oratory's harman EQ curve. Very, very worth it. Takes care of Mt. Beyer and gives them back some low end they lose from the lack of a proper seal from the pads.
Cool new speakers man! Enjoy! I am confused as to why you said you can’t play guitar or direct monitor the old way though. I just set the output settings in my I/O to SoundIDReference instead of directly out of my audio interface or open soundidreference as a plugin on the master track.
Very good upgrade! I've got a pair for Adam Audio T8V from the entry level with 8" driver. Sounds great with heavy bass as well though. In a home-office studio environment with not any accoustic treatment applied works pretty well for me as a guitarmusic hobbist.
a good choose a 3 way system for your studio. i think for near field 2 way is only good upto 5 inch woofer . if want bigger woofer then choose a 3 way or sit more than 2 meter away from speaker
I have a set of Type 30's from HEDD Audio (the founder of HEDD was one of the founders of Adam) that are a very similar monitor design - I agree, for guitar work they're PERFECT!!!!!! My recorded guitar tones always translate perfectly, I also use them for creating Kemper Profiles (yeah, I'm one of those dudes too) that perfectly translate live 100% of the time. Good choice - enjoy your newfound monitoring bliss!
HI! Can you hear a slight hiss from the tweeter? I do hear it from 5 or even 7 feet slightly with my a77h, it"s like a white noise, and level of hiss arises with rising volume control at the back, and drops with lower volume. Nothing connected to speaker. Could you be so kind to check, does your pair hisses to?
nice upgrade Jon, I'm using a set of Genelec 8020B and a presonus subwoofer in a small room EQ correction makes a big difference, did you not use the sonarworks system wide app they have as well ? that would make your correction consistent across DAW and what you're hearing i ended up using REW, and measuring my room myself , then applying an EQ corrective curve, that worked the best for me and for much cheaper, i apply it systemwide using APO Equalizer , and then within the DAW I use with either Crave EQ / Fabfilter, whichever you want
@@SonicDriveStudio ah true, i made the comment while watching the first 5 minutes 😄it is much better to have them within the speakers with DSP , there's a few of those on the market these days (iLoud , Genelec etc..) cool to see
I own the T7Vs and am considering switching to the A7Vs, mainly because I can directly apply my room correction from Sonarworks on them. The software occasionally frustrates me with latency and bugs. There are two issues with my T7Vs that bothers me a lot: 1. When they are on, the tweeters emit a subtle but annoying noise. 2. Sometimes, upon turning the speakers on, I hear a noise from issue 1, plus an oscillation sound at a high pitch. It's even more bothersome, but I found a solution - turning them off and on again makes it disappear. I reached out to Adam, even sending them a video demonstrating the problem, which was audible in the video as well. They advised me to contact the customer service where I purchased them and ask for replacement in warranty. Interestingly, both speakers has this 'problem.' Is this issue addressed in the new product line? This would greatly influence my decision. Thanks and cheers!
I have had the Adam Audio A5Xs for over a decade. They have served me well, and I don't feel the need to upgrade my setup, except for the same reason you mention: ease of mixing the low end better. I have found that I've just gotten used to them, so my mixes end up translating to other mediums well (car, earbuds, cellphone) from just years of using them. I have thought about room correction, but then I thought I might not want to change my workflow too much for fear of having to "relearn" using my ears in a new way. Those A77Hs are killer, but quite expensive. Maybe if I move to a bigger apartment/house.... P.S. I was wondering if you have ever tried/ are interested in trying the Laney VH100R head. I would like to hear how it compares with the Ironheart (and others). I think it could be a worthy contender in your "One Song, One Amp" series. Just curious. Thanks, Jon!
I use Studio Monitoring Headphones for all my listening, as Amps. Speakers, Room Treatment, Mics, etc. are all impractical for me. There is a new video on the Audio University Channel called "Mixing With Headphones? Watch this...? Of particular interest is the effect of Hard Panning and its effect on the Stereo Image, with it being 60 degrees for Speakers and 180 degrees for Headphones. For what it's worth, several months ago I discovered that I preferred hard panning the outputs of my Modeler on separate channel strips of my hardware DAW/Mixer, as it sounds more alive and "feels" better. YMMV
I went from computer speakers to hs50s then added Krk10.3 and then got ns10s and a single avantone. Bought 3500$ worth of gik room treatment and sonarworks4. Had to move packed up the gik and have been back to just hs50 and audio technica 50s without sonarworks and just got my first mix accepted for the urm polls. Goes to show just learn whatever monitors you have. These look dank though.
Hi Jon, I upgrade to these monitors at the end of last year from the Yanaha HS80m. Really a huge difference. However, I struggle with Sonarworks. I did measure the room correction with the Software. Using it in the software itself sounds really great. When I export and upload the file to the speakers themself it does not sound nearly the same. Definitly not as good as with the software. Do you hear any difference too? The import/export is pritty much straight forward, I do not see any way to mess that up. I am wondering if something is wrong with my speakers.
I got it sorted. I did not know that the Sonarworks setting inside the speaker also bypasses the external volume control of the speakers. Because I did not leave them exactly at 0 dB my ears got fooled due to the slight volume drop. Thanks for indirectly pointing me in the right direction ❤
I don't own monitors. I play through cabs. Entirely too loudly. Because metal! Seriously, though. I've been kicking around the idea of doing a setup with monitors, an amp into my captor, etc. I just never get far into that rabbit hole
Oh boy, this “m-t-m” derived layout should never ever be laid out horizontally as this manufacturer has done here. Huge design miss by the engineer (or maybe this “look” was just pushed by a focus or marketing group? Idk..) Now you have 3 drivers causing horizontal plane phase issues at a midrange crossover point where your ears are most sensitive. Vertical t-m has consistently persisted for a reason. Might have great frequency response if your head is mounted in the perfect position and it never moves.😊 Not trying to be negative but just honest. You will notice what I mean when you move left to right and even turning your head eventually. Once you detect this comb effect, you likely won’t be able to “un-hear” it; it’s just like walking across a 4x12 cab while playing only in a more select frequency range. Better dispersion and minimal comb effect is the only acoustic property where a properly designed linear “FRFR” system can beat a real guitar cab so why they chose this design is beyond me.
So the engineers at Focal also made a “huge design miss” with their Alpha Twin monitors? Dude, I don’t believe you know what you’re talking about. What speaker systems have you designed?
@@PacRecChoosing to believe someone doesn’t know what they are talking about because you don’t know what you’re talking about opens you up to believe in the Easter bunny, the afterlife, and religion so I know we’re not going to have a meaningful discussion here. Clean up your room, go to bed early, and try to pay attention in school tomorrow little guy. Night, night.
Adam Audio disqualified themselves from receiving my money when even support was unable to answer at what dB the frequency response was listed. I went with no-BS Genelecs. Sonarworks was a hassle to set up while Genelec's GLM you just plug and it goes WHOOP WHOOP and you're done.
Agreed. I’ve been using the same pair of Genelec 8040’s for almost 15 years! They were even on the road with me for a couple of years. They are fantastic monitors plus they travel very well.
@@TeddSchecklerIt wasn't for that product, back then. How do you think not even support knew the answer if it was online? Could have been a sub it was about.
I LOVE these monitors! What kind of monitors are you using and what are your thoughts on the Adams?
I recently upgrade from the Eris E3.5s to Adam T7Vs. A much better sound than I'm used to haha and I love them. Would love to hear how yours sound!
I'm using a pair of Jensen jp1200. You should look them up it'll make you laugh.
I've been rocking the Yamaha HS8's for a while. They're great
I upgraded from KRK Rokit 8's to the previous version of the A77's. Was surprised at how much I was missing even in a room that technically wasn't the best accoustically.
Dude at this point I think new monitor is day is as exciting as new guitar day. Congrats those look amazing!
I'm using the Adam's audio T7v. Very jealous of you new ones and now I have to start saving to get me a set of those!! Really enjoy the channel! You keep it real and do a wonderful job!
Awesome! I just want to add, that room correction software cannot fix time domain issues or standing waves. So it's always best to use acoustic treatment first (thick panels to control the bass response), and then use the room correction as a finishing touch.
Rockin' the A77H's myself
These are the monitors I’ve been drooling over for a while now. Right now I’m running some Kali IN-8’s and quite enjoy them.
Don't know those but I love these Adams!
@@SonicDriveStudio oh I bet you do!!!! If I stay mixing like I have been and keep focused I may be able to justify such a large purchase with my wife but for now I gotta sift through the budget market and I think I did quite well with my Kali’s. But to be clear, these are not my end game monitors. My first comment was before I realized these were a77h’s. I actually didn’t know these existed. I thought this video was on the a77x. Well now I’m even more interested! You can load sonarworks strait into the monitors?! YES PLEASE!!!!
@smeemusic yeah, that's what I love the most about them
No need whatsoever to replace those Kali's. That's what I use and they are true reference monitors. I've been through seven different monitor setups through the years. And the IN-8's are giving me mixes which translate perfectly to real world listening.
@@MeTuLHeD yeah when I first got these things I was in complete disbelief due to my mixes just working. Take it to the car, it’s good. Take it to the boom box it’s great. Use my wife’s headphones, holy crap this mix is solid… i think they put a little leprechaun inside each monitor to make everything sound right. I’ve also had several monitors over the years and yes these are by far the most accurate monitors I’ve ever used. But this can’t really be the end all be all… right????
Love your channel! Always great info! Great tones and mixes too!
I'm just a bedroom guitarist gear nerd, so my monitoring solution is either a solid state power amp into a cab, or my DT770s - for which I use oratory's harman EQ curve. Very, very worth it. Takes care of Mt. Beyer and gives them back some low end they lose from the lack of a proper seal from the pads.
Cool new speakers man! Enjoy! I am confused as to why you said you can’t play guitar or direct monitor the old way though. I just set the output settings in my I/O to SoundIDReference instead of directly out of my audio interface or open soundidreference as a plugin on the master track.
That can be done, but it means you have to monitor through the computer, which introduces latency
Very good upgrade! I've got a pair for Adam Audio T8V from the entry level with 8" driver. Sounds great with heavy bass as well though. In a home-office studio environment with not any accoustic treatment applied works pretty well for me as a guitarmusic hobbist.
Are you only using mids? I have lows, mids, highs separated with a Presounus monitor station. Very handy to solo certain speakers
a good choose a 3 way system for your studio. i think for near field 2 way is only good upto 5 inch woofer . if want bigger woofer then choose a 3 way or sit more than 2 meter away from speaker
I have a set of Type 30's from HEDD Audio (the founder of HEDD was one of the founders of Adam) that are a very similar monitor design - I agree, for guitar work they're PERFECT!!!!!! My recorded guitar tones always translate perfectly, I also use them for creating Kemper Profiles (yeah, I'm one of those dudes too) that perfectly translate live 100% of the time.
Good choice - enjoy your newfound monitoring bliss!
Congrats. I also have the Adam A77Xs and I'm OK!
Wonderful!
@@SonicDriveStudio 🤘
HI! Can you hear a slight hiss from the tweeter? I do hear it from 5 or even 7 feet slightly with my a77h, it"s like a white noise, and level of hiss arises with rising volume control at the back, and drops with lower volume. Nothing connected to speaker. Could you be so kind to check, does your pair hisses to?
Very cool. I been eyeing this brand, to upgrade my Yamaha HS50M's.
nice upgrade Jon, I'm using a set of Genelec 8020B and a presonus subwoofer in a small room
EQ correction makes a big difference, did you not use the sonarworks system wide app they have as well ? that would make your correction consistent across DAW and what you're hearing
i ended up using REW, and measuring my room myself , then applying an EQ corrective curve, that worked the best for me and for much cheaper, i apply it systemwide using APO Equalizer , and then within the DAW I use with either Crave EQ / Fabfilter, whichever you want
I don't need to use the Sonarworks app anymore because of the built in dsp
@@SonicDriveStudio ah true, i made the comment while watching the first 5 minutes 😄it is much better to have them within the speakers with DSP , there's a few of those on the market these days (iLoud , Genelec etc..) cool to see
I own the T7Vs and am considering switching to the A7Vs, mainly because I can directly apply my room correction from Sonarworks on them. The software occasionally frustrates me with latency and bugs. There are two issues with my T7Vs that bothers me a lot:
1. When they are on, the tweeters emit a subtle but annoying noise.
2. Sometimes, upon turning the speakers on, I hear a noise from issue 1, plus an oscillation sound at a high pitch. It's even more bothersome, but I found a solution - turning them off and on again makes it disappear.
I reached out to Adam, even sending them a video demonstrating the problem, which was audible in the video as well. They advised me to contact the customer service where I purchased them and ask for replacement in warranty. Interestingly, both speakers has this 'problem.'
Is this issue addressed in the new product line? This would greatly influence my decision.
Thanks and cheers!
Hi, I've never experienced those issues myself, I'm sorry but I don't think I'll be of much help
@@SonicDriveStudio thanks for the quick reply! well, maybe I can try my luck with these "new ones"
I have had the Adam Audio A5Xs for over a decade. They have served me well, and I don't feel the need to upgrade my setup, except for the same reason you mention: ease of mixing the low end better. I have found that I've just gotten used to them, so my mixes end up translating to other mediums well (car, earbuds, cellphone) from just years of using them. I have thought about room correction, but then I thought I might not want to change my workflow too much for fear of having to "relearn" using my ears in a new way.
Those A77Hs are killer, but quite expensive. Maybe if I move to a bigger apartment/house....
P.S. I was wondering if you have ever tried/ are interested in trying the Laney VH100R head. I would like to hear how it compares with the Ironheart (and others). I think it could be a worthy contender in your "One Song, One Amp" series. Just curious. Thanks, Jon!
If you want to get used to Sonarworks you can gradually start blending it in and slowly increase the mix. That would make the adjustment less drastic
I use Studio Monitoring Headphones for all my listening, as Amps. Speakers, Room Treatment, Mics, etc. are all impractical for me.
There is a new video on the Audio University Channel called "Mixing With Headphones? Watch this...? Of particular interest is the effect of Hard Panning and its effect on the Stereo Image, with it being 60 degrees for Speakers and 180 degrees for Headphones.
For what it's worth, several months ago I discovered that I preferred hard panning the outputs of my Modeler on separate channel strips of my hardware DAW/Mixer, as it sounds more alive and "feels" better. YMMV
I went from computer speakers to hs50s then added Krk10.3 and then got ns10s and a single avantone. Bought 3500$ worth of gik room treatment and sonarworks4. Had to move packed up the gik and have been back to just hs50 and audio technica 50s without sonarworks and just got my first mix accepted for the urm polls. Goes to show just learn whatever monitors you have. These look dank though.
Hi Jon, I upgrade to these monitors at the end of last year from the Yanaha HS80m. Really a huge difference. However, I struggle with Sonarworks. I did measure the room correction with the Software. Using it in the software itself sounds really great. When I export and upload the file to the speakers themself it does not sound nearly the same. Definitly not as good as with the software. Do you hear any difference too? The import/export is pritty much straight forward, I do not see any way to mess that up. I am wondering if something is wrong with my speakers.
Hmm that's strange, I don't notice anything off with mine. I would suggest contacting Adam Audio support to see if they can help you
I got it sorted. I did not know that the Sonarworks setting inside the speaker also bypasses the external volume control of the speakers. Because I did not leave them exactly at 0 dB my ears got fooled due to the slight volume drop.
Thanks for indirectly pointing me in the right direction ❤
Will the a8h or a77h be good in a 3m x 3m home studio ? I currently have the Yamaha hs8 .
Congrats. Although those are significantly outside my budget for monitors.
How much would you recommend them, 1 through 10?
I have the T7V right now...and need a big upgrade in clarity throughout and spatial feel.
9.5
Yo did you see that IK just dropped the arc 4.
I'll have something to help me out till I can afford some Adams like yours 😂👍🏽
Do you recommend this for mixing in a 3mx3m small studio room ?
Not really. I have other recommendations for that coming soon
@@SonicDriveStudio okay , what would you recommend best ?
Do you plan on getting the sub for them?
No, they have plenty of low end information
I don't own monitors. I play through cabs. Entirely too loudly. Because metal!
Seriously, though. I've been kicking around the idea of doing a setup with monitors, an amp into my captor, etc. I just never get far into that rabbit hole
For just playing guitar that's fine of course. For recording and mixing you would need some good monitors
@@SonicDriveStudio absolutely
@@SonicDriveStudio monitors are just a piece of the puzzle, getting the room acoustics right is a lot more expensive and complicated 😂
🔥
Oh boy, this “m-t-m” derived layout should never ever be laid out horizontally as this manufacturer has done here. Huge design miss by the engineer (or maybe this “look” was just pushed by a focus or marketing group? Idk..) Now you have 3 drivers causing horizontal plane phase issues at a midrange crossover point where your ears are most sensitive. Vertical t-m has consistently persisted for a reason. Might have great frequency response if your head is mounted in the perfect position and it never moves.😊 Not trying to be negative but just honest. You will notice what I mean when you move left to right and even turning your head eventually. Once you detect this comb effect, you likely won’t be able to “un-hear” it; it’s just like walking across a 4x12 cab while playing only in a more select frequency range. Better dispersion and minimal comb effect is the only acoustic property where a properly designed linear “FRFR” system can beat a real guitar cab so why they chose this design is beyond me.
So the engineers at Focal also made a “huge design miss” with their Alpha Twin monitors? Dude, I don’t believe you know what you’re talking about. What speaker systems have you designed?
I never experience those issues
@@PacRecChoosing to believe someone doesn’t know what they are talking about because you don’t know what you’re talking about opens you up to believe in the Easter bunny, the afterlife, and religion so I know we’re not going to have a meaningful discussion here. Clean up your room, go to bed early, and try to pay attention in school tomorrow little guy. Night, night.
So… since you won’t be needing your old speakers I am happy to accept them. I’ll pay shipping for you.
I've already sold them.... sorry ;)
Adam Audio disqualified themselves from receiving my money when even support was unable to answer at what dB the frequency response was listed. I went with no-BS Genelecs. Sonarworks was a hassle to set up while Genelec's GLM you just plug and it goes WHOOP WHOOP and you're done.
Agreed. I’ve been using the same pair of Genelec 8040’s for almost 15 years! They were even on the road with me for a couple of years. They are fantastic monitors plus they travel very well.
In case you're not aware, all the measurement data is available here:
www.adam-audio.com/en/a-series/a77h/#measurement-data
That info is readily available online. Why would you have to ask support?
@@TeddSchecklerIt wasn't for that product, back then. How do you think not even support knew the answer if it was online? Could have been a sub it was about.
Lol