What Car is Mad Max Driving in Beyond Thunderdome?
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Few know what it is and few talk about it. Almost 40 years since it first showed up on the big screen in the third entry into the franchise, 'Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome', the "Camel Wagon" as it has been since identified as is a departure of the once muscle icon of the movie car world that was the Pursuit Special. Some have had their theories about what it is, convinced it was a Toyota Hilux or Ford F-150, while others have suggested it was re-salvaged from the remains of the Black on Black Interceptor, yet these suggestions have never been confirmed and with little to no information about its origins or history, MFP has decided to try and tackle this off-road inclusion into the world of Mad Max and try and determine once and for all, 'What is Max driving in Beyond Thunderdome?'
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The radiator might be from a F series, but if you look at the firewall where the brake booster, brake master cylinder and clutch master are its all XA XB falcon. even the brake pipes are shaped the same.
Then the firewall shape and plenum shape are falcon, the scuttle where the wipers attach are also falcon, there is even the hole in the upper plenum where the wiper motor attaches
Did you watch the whole video before making this comment?
This guy gets it.
@@MadMaxBible Is there something I am missing here? Cause the ZF and ZG Fairlane shares the same engine bay with the XA, XB and XC. The firewall shape, brake master cylinder and clutch master the wiper positioning are all basically the same for the 1972-1978 Falcon Fairlane and LTD range.
Honestly looked like a truck frame with everything else cobbled together on top. I couldn’t tell what motor powered it. Wouldn’t be surprised that they stick a stripped car body on top or they they powered it by a Cleveland. What I find is curious is why they haven’t managed to find the crew who built it and get their story.
What the narrator doesn't include is that it appears that the chassis belongs to a Toyota Landcruiser, which was a known swap to appear on locally produced Fords and Holdens back in the 80s and 90s. A lot of people suggested that it was an F100 used as the doner car, but the problem with that is the firewall and the B pillar rake.
They had a few of the vehicles on display at a Melbourne motor show in the 80's, just after the movie was made.
The display plaque said it was based on a F100 chassis, with a cut up ford sedan as a cabin mounted on top.
Most of the vehicles had blowers (superchargers) and turbos mounted, with a mass of piping for effect. Pretty much all of these were not functional or connected. Blowers were just empty casings and you could see the regular 4BBL carby through gaps where the blowers were mounted.
Thanks for the additional info. Cheers.
The flutes in the scuttle panel above the firewall (where the wipers would normally mount) are also identical to the falcon/ Fairlane model you have suggested.👍
The V8 Interceptor has always been my favorite movie vehicle but I'll admit I also always loved Papa Gallo's lone wolf car as well.
Sucks it never lasted a full movie
Blown V8’s at each end.
It was a Pursuit Special, it's only called the "last of the V8 Interceptors" in the second movie.
@@infoanalysistconspiracyrealist There's always that one person who has to say this stupid crap. V8 Interceptor or Pursuit Special is interchangeable to 99% of fans. Get off your pedestal. sheesh.
@@infoanalysistconspiracyrealist Let me guess, you preach to English speakers that they should say Gojira instead of Godzilla too. "rolls eyes"
If you look close the supercharger gets ripped off during the roll. I know it wasnt technically a real one, but if it were and that happened i think that the engine wouldn't have been easily salvageable without a machine shop and lots of time.
Its weird how these cars are so different but eerily similar to usa and canada cars in an alternate universe kind of way. Australian falcon XBs look kind of like north american ford torinos. Our falcons were tiny cars with the mercury versions being comets. 289s were the largest engines offered but they usually ended up with 170 cube straight sixes.
Yes, since I was a teenager, I had always thought Ford Torinos looked like Falcon XB. Also the Mustang (depending on the year / model) has some similarity.
I think yyou nailed it? The car shell looks like a sedan Falcon XA - XB/Fairlane, especially with whats left of the Vinyl roof. By firewall and A/B pillars. I remember the Car IronBar drove, the 1 that Max's car head on collision at the end, was Displayed here in Whyalla S.A Blockbuster video store, late 80's early 90's , looked also to be a Ford F100 chassis, it had a Cleveland V8. Someone local stole the Cylinder heads, inlet manifold, starter, had the F100 gearbox,,, 4 G size Oxygen cutting bottles for Fuel Tanks, (Dummies as they had holes cut in them for display only) and plates welded back in the Chassis, where it was Cut, as you see the Car Break in half in the movie. The Car is apparently still on display somewhere?
100% xa / xb .. can't kill em
@@bradhall402 as a Demolition Derby driver,, ya can, lol. But the old Fords are Legendary. A true Part of our tru blue Australian History.
I think i have a Photo of the car? At Blockbuster. I'll have to dig it up. Ironbars car.
@bradhall402 they bent and broke just behind where the front subframe bolted in.
@@clintadams8451 was Oxy Acetylene cut through the chassis behind the Drivers seat area, (Hollywood Special effects) 2 Large triangular pieces were cut out , you could see the Patches welded back in to put the car back on display and driving.
Outstanding work piecing it all together.
Cheers. Thanks a lot for the support.
4X4 FORD BRONCO. is his vehicle in MM3.The silver bullet vehicle in MADMAX 2 in the outro was a FORD F-100/150 DRIVETRAIN AND FRAME AS WELL!
Mainly from the silhouette or skeleton from what I could make out
Look at the roof; it looks like it has seems like the ones that had vinyl tops.
i literally cried when max had his car destroyed in mid mix 2
u did some really good detective work bro, ur a great researcher 😅
Cheers. Finally my OCD is paying off. Lol
That means a lot coming from someone called "Big Black Dick".
@@MFPMapFilmProductions 😂 lol facts right
I reckon you're right about the F100 chassis. However I did think at one stage it was a very early Nissan Patrol LWB. But Looking at the footage now I doubt it. I wouild love to know what some of the other vehicles were based on. Especially the "Cowskin" car. That was my favourite of all of them.
The radiator is not from a ford f100
Not even close.
Could be a Patrol
Haha, yes the cow skin car. Kind of like a Lone Ranger silver. The driver in the movie wore a black mask and a cowboy hat. Man how comical.
@@ericdillon1169 🤣🤣
All these years, I kept asking myself this same question 😄
Glad I could help answer your question.
In the 70s here in the states it was popular to mount car bodies on k-10 blazer chassis making everyday cars into 4x4s.
K-5 blazers, my bad😂
Dropping nova bodies on s-10 frames was an alternative.
I like to think at the end of the Road Warrior, with the gang disbanded he uses the blown V8 and frame in pappagallo's rig as a chassis and heads back to the Landau and Interceptor wrecks and with the help of Gyro captain cobbles together something resembling his old car.
I was going to mention it, but I left it out, there was a ZG Fairlane in Humungus' crew. It was the one that got hit by molotovs as soon as they are on the road and just misses hitting a 1967 F100 (not the red one). Had it been a 62 model, I would have suggested those two were used for the body.
@@MFPMapFilmProductions I think the first car rolled in road warrior shouldn't be overlooked by people trying to figure a story behind it.
@@jefferywarburton2116 That's the Ford Landau P5 1973-76. Same body and frame as the XB Pursuit Special including a standard 5.8L V8 with 290HP.
The vehicle was at the National Motor Museum in Birdwood a few years ago.
My mistake, wrong vehicle, Birdwood has the Andamooka Buggy.
The Pursuit Special is canonically the same car in every installment. Read the comics. The body and motor are that car.
It seems like years ago I heard somewhere that it started life as a
military truck.. I thought it made sense because just of it's huge size of the vehicle..
F100s and F150s also had falcon steering wheels used in them. I know two of mine did
Pausing at 36 seconds with a prediction..
Approximately a 1973 Ford Falcon four door sedan on an unknown 4x4 frame
I'd be careful about gambling if I was you. Just saying.
Hey mate, just wanted to say i love all your videos!!!
Thank you very much for the support.
ONE THING that I think everybody IGNORES about the Mad Max movies is the fact of "Where are they getting all the car parts?"!!!!
While I love all the Mad Max movies, the one thing everybody seems to "forget" is the idea that "civilization has crumbled" and there ARE ZERO factories anywhere building anything!! This means that the only source for car parts WOULD BE junk yards, salvaging spare parts or raw materials to build things!! IN Mad Max Two (The Road Warrior) Max helps the last remaining oil rig defend itself, which should give you a clue to had far society has declined!! And even in this movie, the idea of "mechanics building things" at the oil rig, illustrates, that certain parts have to be manufactured "in house" and that you can't simply go to your local parts store to buy replacement items!!
ALSO given the time line in these movies, in a sort of "order" that is unseen and unclear, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER, that car, trucks and related parts are build and stored in mass quantities at warehouses (for new parts) and junk yards for old parts!! And certain items COULD BE made from scratch given a bunch of technically information and know how!! Like sand casting metal parts wouldn't be hard, BUT forming gaskets might take some more "skills"!! But this aside, remaking "factory style" body panels, would no longer be possible without large presses or experienced metal fabrication workers who'd know how to shape metal by hand!! But even still it might take a month to build a working door from scratch at that rate!!
The Interceptor/ Pursuit Special rules. And always will.
My favorite vehicle is the circus wagon that was powered with a Mac b60 Truck converted for rail way use I wonder if it's still around or did it ever get scrapped ?
Love your work, thanks.
Thank you. Your support and comments like these makes me hope for bigger things for the future. Cheers.
It has a coil sprung front suspension like f250
Pretty sure was scrapped at Sims scrap at St Mary's early 90s with some others that had been kept for another installment that got cancelled
I always thought it was a skeletal remains of a ford bronco or Chevy blazer
I watched that Fury road and that kid spitting fuel into the intake got sick and then used his piece of chain
Charles Bronson. Mr. Majestic. Testament to the Ford twin I beam suspension. 🤔🙀
I dig that intro soundtrack.
Here's my premise, now be sure to listen before arguing because I eventually contradict myself massively and still be wrong
Great video 👍
Thanks.
i kinda like to build my own kind of mad maxish car
but now days you can't get a ford falcon coupe so easy
i think the Dodge Challenger would make a good alternative with a 6 speed manual and a 5.7 hemi, not the 6.2, its a bit too much
putting offroad tires on it maybe lifting it a bit with springs
i saw a few examples on the Internet
in fac cry 5 there was a car like this
thanks
The frame and suspension looks like 70s f-350 the rad was prob added to give the cobbled together look.
I heard rumor it was a Toyota & they did have a 2 spoke steering wheel in the 70s but after seeing this I would have to agree with you or third possibility all parts were salvage like most were.
I wounder what Post Apocalyptic Cars FB group might have more insight I am one of them
What are your thoughts on Doomsday (2008)? It’s described as Mad Max 2 meets Escape From New York. It also features a ludicrous chase scene at the end. I personally think it’s a forgotten classic in the making
Must admit, this slipped by me when it came out while I was in Australia and remember seeing that cover for years. Just saw a trailer, it may be worth looking into, but it seems to be trying to tap into those films you mentioned, but feels like its missing some heart. Still, I will one day have to fully watch it.
It’s a decent movie. Definitely full of early 2000’s film tropes, but still a good watch
Personally I thought it was terrible. Watch once, forgot forever.
@@skylined5534 I just rewatched it. God the writing is so incompetent. It’s got some good ideas, but whoa. The wasted potential
Doomsday is really good.
Might be a truck radiator but that's not the whole truck used, look at the still of max sitting on top , just left of his right hand, you can see vinyl roof still attached and stitching below that basket chrome trim around door opening, definitely falcon body on top
Did you watch the whole video before making this comment?
I got nothing to say; it's just a comment for the algorithm.
Any help is good help. Much appreciated.
There probably was other thing at the timeline where the interceptor that was wrecked max rebuild it with the car he was by at the end of the film then to the fury road where the interceptor looks like it been rebuild and at the end of fury road it go to beyond thunderdome
3:13 The radiators are different
Not a F100 part
Sooooo...its my dads old '63 Ford F-100???
The mystery has finally been solved
Look up mad max museum in Australia in Victoria
its a fantasy car that was assembled by the movie crew with what ever they had.
Yes, and I have been able to determine what they used.
The XB V8 intersepter has to be tge most iconic movie hiw many replicas are there in Australia the USA and the UK but an interesting video about Maxes choice of vehicle in Beyond Thunder Dome not the best Mad Max movie in the francise
Australian built Ford Falcon and Fairlane were monocoque - no chassis.
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That is built off a Ford truck look close in the scene where it crosses the railroad tracks you can see it has twin I beam suspension it’s a two wheel drive 67 thru 79 the older ones had a cast iron dropped one piece front axel look at that scene really well at low speed .
Of course it was old 4WD's, cars don't have chassis any more mate ! 😩
I remember reading they used tonnes of Toyota LandCruiser 4WD's from the Wreckers.
F100's were never sold in large numbers in Australia.
There were more than a few late model cars/trucks imported in 1984 that had chassis. In Mad Max 2, at least 2 F-100s were used.
@@MFPMapFilmProductions All trucks have a chassis. Australian, Japanese & European cars haven't had chassis since the 60's, they're all monocoque construction.
I appreciate the videos you make and definitely the amount of work you do to work out the details 👍
Going off what radiator is in it? We all know how chopped up low budget these cars were. Maybe try to mach the cowl vents in front of the windscreen.
Did you watch the whole video?
Nobody knows, it's never been discussed on UA-cam
Probably a morris marina.
Ford Falcon II
Ok
Australian Ford Falcon.
Australian Ford Fairlane.
@@MFPMapFilmProductions
According to ChatGPT, “Mad Max, a post-apocalyptic film character, drove a modified Ford Falcon XB GT Coupe called the "Interceptor" in the original Mad Max film released in 1979. It became an iconic vehicle associated with the character.” My original answer was based on a documentary I saw about movie cars that pointed this out.
We don't talk about Thunderdome...
Would you rather Fury Road with Tom get all the credit as the last Mad Max film starring Max?
A modified Ford Falcon.
I dissagree. 1. Mad Max happened in Austraila, I doubt American cars and parts would be common.
2. I knew a guy who had a '70's International with a 70's GMC 454 in it. " you can put anything on anything, if you try." Was his motto.
... Good video though...
In Mad Max 2, there were already 2 Ford f-100s used and destroyed. If all was needed was a chassis, there was two available right there, and one was a 1967 model. Uncommon? yes, non existent? we had em about here and there.
You’d be surprised just what was imported and sold in Australia, not just American but British, Japanese and French cars all had a reasonable sales market there.
I remember reading in a car magazine,Unique Cars? at the time ,that it was a Toyota Hilux.
Yeah, I heard that rumor too, which is why I included the Hilux commercial as reference, but it doesn't hold up at all.
i never cared for beyond thunderdome, only because of the lack of street style cars
90% of the road warrior cars are rat rods and waste land cruisers. Mad Max had modded cars and bikes, all vehicles were zany. .😂
This video is missing the point. In a world where the world is your junkyard, and power is king, cubic inches and forced induction are the rule. That means what a particular chassis came with is irrelevant.
This channel is mostly about documenting film and tv history, what was used is just as important as why.
His personal vehicle was a Chevy Panel Van, seen in the first movie.
Bahahahaha wrong, HX Holden Panelvan
Yuh, agree, it's a HX Holden Panelvan. Not a Chevy, well, Australian General Motors Holden
Muhahahah, Muhahahaha, wrong, Holden is a Chevy/GM product. @@aussieausdeutschland4245
Do you like mad max
All I DO know is this movie is just terrible compared to all the others. A big reason (besides the story was just meh) is that after Mad Max 2, (remember, it's a post apocalyptic dystopian film) this film doesn't seem as desolate. The desperation and action from the previous film isn't there. There's almost a rebuilding of a society. And a ton of dialogue. Sorry, I just never liked this film. As far as the video you made, great job, keep it up mate! 👍
Never watched it and going by the clips I've seen of it over the years I never will, looks complete garbage compared to the other two films
I think Beyond was crap. Too far removed from the first 2 movies. Fury Road was what Beyond should have been. Just my opinion.
Fury could have been great had Mel come back.
I don't consider this movie even part of the original universe
Still it was fun
it isnt any ford truck at all its a elcamino probly around late t0s early 80s cause the ford trucks have a higher angle on the a pillar by the windshield and the angle on that car is more like a car a pillar its at a shorter angle
Could you please provide a video essay on this, or pictorial links to support this claim. Thank you.
You need to remember these cars were built in Australia with what we had available. The cab is a 71 to 73 Ford Falcon/Fairlane, fitted to a full chassis. The chassis i'm not 100% sure what it's from. ( just added, it's Right Hand drive, brake cylinder etc )
... El Caminos are Chevy, I think you mean Ranchero.
Who cares what Mad Max drove, the movie wasn't worth watching to begin with! The Movie really sucked bad!
its a 1965 camel tow
It's a 79 f150
Could you please provide video documentation or pictorial evidence. Thank you.