I love them ALL , I have 4 different model motorcycles , I kept my 2007 Harley Heritage , and rode Harleys and Triumphs for more than 50 plus years . Harleys do make pretty bikes , but I have to say my Indian is more of a comfortible ride , a lot of Torque and it doesn't ride as hot as the harley . .
Congrats on the new Indian. I have been a Harley supporter for years. I finally had a motor problem with the M8 114 and they didn’t want to warranty their product. That was the initial reason for my swap over to Indian. Now that I have put a few thousand miles on it, I am hooked. Almost everything about it is better. I liked it so much that my wife traded her Harley for an Indian as well. I loved Harley. Harley cooperate made my decision for me. Ride safe friend.
I was in the same situation last August. I love both brands and feel the Indian is offering more for the money but at the end of the day, we went with the Harley Roadglide special for the color, dealership network, and aftermarket.
I agree Harley has the dealer network and that is nice. Congrats on the bike, like I have said you can't go wrong with Harley or Indian. Thanks for watching and ride safe.
Glad you like your dealership! You'll be spending lots and lots of money there trying to keep your bike running (unless you are not more than a weekend rider) after riding Indians for many years and about 200 thousand miles I will say this: Indians in stock condition will smoke most Harleys hands down!! Besides that...they never break! Trying riding a Harley like you stole it all day long in 120 degree heat...good chance something will fail and you'll look so cool sitting there on the shoulder. An Indian will handle that day after day,they are incredibly fast, and never break! Cheers to Polaris for building a super fast just add gas and change the oil kind of motorcycle
@@enriquemejia6697 Image result for indian recalls Indian Motorcycle Recalls Some Late Model Motorcycles. Indian Motorcycle Company is recalling certain model year 2014-2016 Chief Classic, Dark Horse, Chieftain, Roadmaster, Vintage and Chieftain Dark Horse motorcycles manufactured April 15, 2013, to June 16, 2015.
@@enriquemejia6697 Indian Recalls Motorcycles Over Crash Hazard Every now and then, we hear about motorcycle recalls that may impact our readers and clients. As a motorcycle rider myself, I believe that staying on top of the news regarding issues that may lead to accidents is important. In my personal injury law firm, we have helped countless riders who were involved in accidents caused by third parties that were negligent. Because motorcycle makers will sometimes ignore reports of issues and riders will be involved in accidents, it’s important that motorcycle owners are doing all they can to avoid accidents. The latest motorcycle recall to have been reported impacts the Indian Motorcycles. According to the reports, thousands of motorcycles are being recalled over a crash hazard. Since the 2017 and 2018 Chief, Chief Classic, Chief Dark Horse, Chief Vintage, Chieftain, Chieftain Classic, Chieftain Dark Horse, Chieftain Elite, Chieftain Limited, Springfield, and Springfield Dark Horse motorcycles come with European-market instead of U.S.-market halogen headlight assemblies. Due to this mistake, the vehicles fail to meet U.S. federal standards for safety, and, as a result, the motorcycle’s visibility may be impacted, increasing the risk of an accident as a consequence. Since this problem may lead to serious and even deadly consequences, the company has reported that all impacted vehicles will be inspected and any incorrect headlight assembly will be replaced entirely for free. Indian has reported that it will be contacting impacted vehicle owners to have the issue addressed immediately. Thankfully, we haven’t learned of any serious or deadly accidents involving the recalled vehicles. Nevertheless, we urge riders with the recalled motorcycles to either wait until they get the recall notice to go to a dealer to have the issue addressed or to reach out to Indian directly to learn more about how you should proceed to have this issue addressed. For more details on how to contact Indian, follow this link.
@@enriquemejia6697 I-18-04 Indian Motorcycle® Bulletin 5/16/2018 The following is a copy of the I-18-04 Consumer Letter. Vehicles affected by this bulletin will receive notification by mail to the address the vehicle is registered to. To check your VIN for open bulletins, please click here. Dear INDIAN MOTORCYCLE Owner: This notice is sent to you in accordance with the requirements of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act. INDIAN MOTORCYCLE has decided that a defect which relates to the motor vehicle safety exists in some 2018 Indian 111ci motorcycles. Our records indicate you have purchased a potentially affected vehicle. The reason for this recall: INDIAN MOTORCYCLE has determined that some 2018 111ci models were manufactured with a right-hand switch cube assembly that does not meet quality standards. Affected switch cubes may develop corrosion within the Stop/Run/Start circuit. If the key fob is stored on or near the motorcycle and all other safety interlocks are met, this condition could lead to unintentional vehicle power-up or start sequence. What INDIAN MOTORCYCLE and your dealer will do: INDIAN MOTORCYCLE will issue a Safety Bulletin to all INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealers, with instructions required to replace the right-hand switch cube with an updated version. Repairs will be made by any authorized INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealers at no cost to you. What you should do: Contact your authorized INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealer to schedule an appointment to have the bulletin repair performed. Do not attempt repairs yourself. Repairs must be done only by an authorized INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealer. If you have questions or need more information: While your INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealer is in the best position to answer your questions, if you have any questions that your dealer cannot address, if you are having difficulty obtaining the repair outlined in this letter, or if you need assistance finding an INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealer, please visit our website at www.indianmotorcycle.com or contact our INDIAN MOTORCYCLE Consumer Service Department by calling 877-204-3697. If you believe that the dealer or INDIAN MOTORCYCLE has failed or is unable to remedy the defect within a reasonable time, you may submit a complaint to the Administrator, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 1200 New Jersey Avenue S.E. Washington, D.C. 20590, or call the toll free Vehicle Safety Hot Line at 888-327-4236 (TTY: 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov. This notice was mailed to you according to our most current registration information. If you no longer own your INDIAN MOTORCYCLE, please contact your local INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealer to have the ownership information changed. The INDIAN MOTORCYCLE Consumer Service Department cannot change ownership information without identification. Federal law requires that any vehicle lessor receiving this notice must forward a copy of this notice to the lessee within 10 days. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause you. Your safety and continued satisfaction with your INDIAN MOTORCYCLE is our primary concern. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. Sincerely, INDIAN MOTORCYCLE
I'm not ready to give up my Victory CC yet but after getting my butt on one of the new Indian Dark Horse Chieftains last month I'm sure this is the way I'm going when the time comes.
@@lukethedrifter33 They are awesome bikes, I have a 2007 victory jackpot and a 2016 Victory Magnum. I love the Indian also, i have 4 and you will NOT be disappointed, welcome to the tribe!
Welcome to the Tribe. I just purchased a 2021 Chieftain Dark Horse. They say the clutch pull has been improved for this model year. And the brake side hand control now has a start button. As well as Apple Car Play. All I had to do is ride one. And it blew me away. Air assist rear Fox shock. Pages of info on the infotainment screen. Tip of the spear. With a 7 year warranty. I’m loving it. It just needs Roadmaster Lowers and heated grips. Which I’ll have put on.
I tried HD street and road glide. I almost pulled the trigger on Road Glide but I wasn’t really in love with the shark fairing. I am HD for many years. Indian was in my radar for a long time but I don’t like the classic look of the previous models. When 2019 came I didn’t even take one for test ride but I was asking everybody owns Indian and they’re always giving me happy answers. I bought the same bike you have but the smoke bronze. Man I was blown away when I took it for the first ride. I am even happy with the way it sounds. Very easy to ride. All the points you have mentioned are true. I had to spent tons of money on my HD to come to this point. Good job Indian
Indian Motorcycles are manufactured and assembled in several states around the U.S. They include Roseau, Minn.; Spirit Lake, Iowa; Osceola, Wis. and Huntsville, Ala. Manufacturing and assembly also takes place in Monterrey, Mexico.Jun 26, 2018 www.bizjournals.com › 2018/06/26 Polaris may move some Indian motorcycle production to Poland in ...
Man , I am so happy for you. You are right on all your points . Like you, I was in the market for a new touring bike and it was between an HD Ultra Limited Low and a Roadmaster. No HD dealer could come even close to the deal I got on Chief Red Cloud as I affectionately call him. Agree also that the power shield is a big deal. You would have to buy 3 windshields of varying heights for the HD to match the versatility of this Indian feature and even then HD can't match the convienience of change shield height on the fly. If you take a long trip where you experience every form of weather in mother nature's arsenal, you will love this feature even more. Remote locking bags is wonderful. press a button and walk away with peace of mind, super convenient. THe M8 powered HD had more spunk than my 2017 but with ride mode offered for Indians for 2019, I feel the playing field has been leveled in this area. Heated seats and grips are great too! My bike is stock. In 37,500 miles, I have had the latch on the "glove box" break and be replaced under warranty, chrome flaked off my original kickstand also replaced under warranty. My power shield stopped working , windshield electric motor replace under warranty. that is all. No engine issues at all. Your 2019 power windshield is powered by an updated (simplified) redesigned electric motor so you should have no worries there. My Roadmaster is so butter smooth. I actually slow down on my commute home so that my ride last longer. I do 80-85 going to work (freeway) and set my cruise at 68-70 mph for the return ride home lol. THe only thing that doesn't seem like a durable design and that I am not happy with is the design of that dashtop glove box I previously touched on. I use it every day but I wouldn't be surprised if this design failed again before my warranty goes out. I have another 15 months of factory warranty so I'm not worried.
I gotta say I love my 2019 chieftain too. I loved my Harley FXSE too. The Indian is an awesome bike and it fits me perfectly, the stage 2 kit is great and it was included with my bike. I think that your correct with the value for the money. I say ride what you love and enjoy the time that you ride.
@@lukethedrifter33 you too, I really like the white smoke on your bike, I got one of the ICON's in Dragon green and I really dig the color. The dealership told me it's the only one in Washington state too.
Thanks for an honest comparison whilst not being a dick about it. As long as there is more than one choice there will always be comparisons and opinions. If I had to give up HD, Indian would be my first choice by far. I think once they become more established we'll be seeing lots more of them on the road. Right now dealers seem kinda sparse, but give it time and some success with the new bikes and that'll change. Glad you're happy with the new bike, you are the one that rides it and makes the payment after all! Cool video, keep riding!
I love Harley but Indian is just as good with better standard features for lesser price. I'm saving my money this spring to hopefully but the Challenger when it comes out
Very nice bike! I also like the Indian line up even though I ride a Road Glide Ultra I do like the Road Master. TIme to watch more of your videos. Ride Safe
Hmmm, good point, I'm present straddling the fence, with the same Harley Roadglide, & mine will boil down to costs as well I'm sure. I've test ridden the 2019 Roadglide, now gotta test ride the Indian. Stay tuned....
hey Mate..great comment at the end....go and do it...I am a Goldwing rider, don';t wanna do the Harley thing....so really considering the Chieftain......thanks fo r the video
I like it, and I liked the flat white color until I sit behind it..I'd have to paint the dash.. and just cant get over the brake master cylinder in front of the faring speaker. I think I'd rather have a manual windshield adjustment if it saves a few pounds (up so high) and several dollars.
Congrats on the bike. I am in the same boat as you were...upgrading to bagger this year and can't decide between the two. I noticed that Indian comes stock with LED lights too and Street glide special does not. Definitely leaning towards the Dark Horse at this point, but slightly worried about it holding its value if I ever decide to sell. Ride safe!
One of the defined differences is that the Chieftain has a much better balance from the moment you take it off the side stand. And handling is better as well, you sit “into” the Chieftain not on top of it..not to mention the Chieftain has a superior suspension. The stock exhaust sound is great stock. No need to pay to upgrade like Harley. The navigation system is more advanced and easier to use as well. The adjustable power windshield is a very nice usable feature Harley-Davidson still doesn’t have. All the lighting is LED from the factory, no need to pay for upgrades like Harley, keyless remote luggage locks, beautiful wheels and body work. The list goes on... Indian Chieftain wins hands down! However as always, it’s all up to the riders personal preference. At the end of the day Indian is very serious competition for Harley Davidson and is here to stay!
Love it all except the Hydraulic reservoir, and the white (though eye catching at first) I'd have to have the stage 2 right off the bat otherwise I wouldn't be satisfied coming from a Stratoliner.
The street glide special has more power and torque and it feels better while turning I would just upgrade the suspension on the glide and you got a perfect bike
I’m curious about a scheduled maintenance cost comparison between the two bikes, I ride a Harley and some of the maintenance costs are unbelievable. Some I do myself but that’s not always an option.
Ride on brother. I still don't like the fairing on the dark horse. Looks like a 50's freight train. But that's just my thinking. I'm glad you got the bike you wanted. Ride on, keep the rubber on the road!!
2.1" travel with the street/roadglide and RK special. It's form over function in that they want a look as opposed the best functioning rear suspension. It's not bashing, but a fact. HD could engineer a better suspension, but it woudl violate their design ethic and probably would require a complete redesign of the frame.
Harley actually does have keyless power locking bags but you have to get the CVO models and spend 40,000 plus to get it.... you can't even find it anywhere on Harley site as a aftermarket add-on option either for the standard bikes. Hey Harley if you're listening.... keyless locking bags and forks should not be a CVO model exclusive unless you want to lose sales to the competition. I see people talking about adding aftermarket shocks to the Harley to be comparable to the chieftain butt most of these aftermarket shocks only ad maybe an inch of travel and there is no substitute for suspension travel... the chieftain still has an inch on these aftermarket solutions for the Harley. Don't get me wrong I love Harley and I own one but hey there's nothing wrong with competition to keep Harley on their heels and improving their bikes.
someone told me that you can get it on the CVO thats crazy and I agree I think competition will be good for both brands and we as riders will benefit in the end. Thanks for watching and ride safe.
That’s price an all Is great but at the end of the day your not riding a Harley. I have been where your at before comparing prices and still bout the HD. There is just something about riding a Harley. Glad your happy about your purchase. Hopefully Polaris don’t pull the plug like they did with Victory.
I think he knows that he's not riding a Harley. More features, reliability, more power with stunning looks. Harley is the #ME TOO bike. After test riding a brand new Street glide I figured out what that ( it's something about a Harley) feeling is. Harley has you guys thinking that any lame who gets on one is magically a big tough cool biker guy! I actually felt like I was riding a moped! My decision was made I will be going with the Indian.
lilypad vlogs I rode a Victory Vision for 2 years and put 33000 Miles on it. Great bike ! Maybe the best bike I have ever owned. When It came time to get another bike Polaris had pulled the plug on Victory. I test rode the Indian Road Master and the HD Road Glide Ultra. To me the Road Glide is a far superior bike. Just my opinion. Another thing is I will not give Polaris another dime of my money. They pretty much through all the Victory riders under the bus !
Man, these comments... Crazy... Both sides have obvious bias. Mine is the best, yours is trash. I've ridden both... Both are GREAT bikes with each having their wins and losses. Indian: features such as remote locking bags, power shield, ride modes, better suspension Harely: better appearance (stance...which is why they sacrifice ride quality..., fit and finish), parts "feel" of better quality. At the end of the day, they're pretty comparable... There are things I don't like about Indian such as the plastic dash (which will probably fade and crack over time), the fact that I have to go full turn on the bars to access the fuel tank, the design on the inner fairing, shape of the bags (wish they'd go extended like the SG special)... That's about it. As for Harley, I don't like the rougher suspension, the lack of convenience features (mentioned above) that the Indian has, less performance than they should get out of that big of a displacement. At the end of the day, none of those things are true deal breakers for either. Indian makes more power, but Harley is more than sufficient. I prefer Harley's infotainment system better, but don't mind Indian's. I think Harley looks better, but Indian is a beautiful bike too. I'd appreciate the keyless entry on the bags but don't find myself in situations where I feel like I need to lock my bags that often, when I do the key isn't really that inconvenient. The windscreen is nice, but changing a windshield to 1 that's the "happy medium" is easy enough. Both bikes are pretty damn reliable now that the kinks are worked out. You can't go wrong with either, and I'd have a hard time deciding between the 2 at this point. Only someone blind, would be brand loyal without checking out the positives of the other brands.
When you spend a ton of money on a bike , you should not have to buy a bunch of accessories.. If the dealer charges too much hope the aftermarket will have stuff too ..
No different to HD in that regard. HOWEVER, at least with Indian you don't have to buy decent suspension to replace the shocks! Here in Oz that's a VERY real consideration.
When Indian made a comeback they were more expensive than Harley. They can also shift cost around with other products they produce .harley makes motorcycles that's it.
Brian trerotola I was in the same spot I like both bikes, I just went more options for less money. I really think I would have been happy with street glide also, both awesome bikes. Thanks for watching and ride safe bro.
Aye Arlington tx!! I think I've seen you before riding around. I own a Hayabusa but I'm looking to buy a bagger and I'm torn between the street glide and your Indian.
Congrats on the bike. They are beautiful. Bring on the gimmicks. If the technology is there, use it. However the amount of plastic trim and the handlebar switch housings doesn’t sit well for me. I think Polaris is doing a credible job ringing back an iconic brand and keeping prices down because they’re building a brand again. Just my .02. Enjoy.
I looked at a few Indians last weekend. One was a 2017 or 2018 that had some of the “chrome” paint peeling off the plastic strip that goes around the front fender. One of the reasons I prefer my Harley over the Honda I had before was the “chrome painted plastic” all over the Honda - you won’t see that on a Harley.
People buy a Corvette and expect an Escalade ride. SMH. Harley got it right with lowered suspension on the “sportier” Special and longer and softer travel with the base Street Glide and Ultra.
Hey, nice vlog. One question , does it have a hydraulic clutch ? I have some arthritis starting in my hands and My Ultra has that feature and it is great ! I would like to add the Dark Horse chieftain to my garage if possible. I just subbed to your channel too... I like hearing other riders talk about their bikes
Congrats! Beautiful Bike! The only beef I had with your bike was the gas caps being almost under the infotainment system. Also, FYI Clearance on the rear suspension of a Streetglide Special is actually 4.9"... Great ride! Enjoy!
If I had not bought the Harley M8 street glide special in 2017 I would have bought an Indian bagger. Both brands have great longevity with basic maintenance with the Indian having an edge in ease of oil changes and a maintenance free chain free primary side.
I recognize some of the area ya are driving. Did you happen to purchase that bad boy at Lonestar Indian? If so...tell me about your experience. I am about to make the long haul to Garland to have a look and maybe a purchase. Disregard....just saw in your "reveal" vid that ya got it at Big Tex Indian. Let me know how they treated ya.
Never checked out Lonestar, but Big Tex in Denton was awesome. Super nice and really worked with me on the deal. If you go in ask for Billy or Bill I worked with both of them and they are great. Tell them Chris sent you. Take care.
@@lukethedrifter33 Watch put for the Denton Ford Dealer they are Crooks .. Think Like a Cop had an F-150 that was a total Lemon .. He finally sold it for a Loss to Denton Ford and walked across the street and bought a Toyota .. Ford had many electrical problems had to be towed to the Dealer a few times..
Let us know your opinion after the first service or breakdown. While I agree with your points about Indian being a nicer bike with better options, you still cant beat Harleys proven mechanical reliability. Unfortunately too many things on the Indian have been breaking down and there is no repair known by the dealers. Also, if you thought HD service was expensive, just wait.
I actually listed many of their issues but when these people are more concerned with other things they sell, they have gone deaf. The styling has confused many of them.
Indian has an engine which pings do to bad pushrods and lifters, which have required new engines to be installed in some bikes. Many have ECM problems and cylinder issues. Some have electronic issues, and faulty indicator lights.
I believe your Dark Horse also has two bluetooth capabilities. 1) your cellphone bluetoothing to the bike infotainment system. 2) The infotainment system bluetoothing to your helmet. Neither the Street Glide nor the Road Glide have this 2nd feature.
True, however the Harley has the optional wireless headset available. And bluetooth to your phone is standard. 2019 infotainment took a giant leep forward. Still Indian has a nice system.
Those features you mentioned came with the boom audio beginning in 2014, long before Indian changed their audio system. Bluetooth for the command system is new, but Bluetooth has always been a part of that system for your phone or iPod. The commands for nav, etc required a cable.
Had to laugh when you said some ppl think the better equipment is "gimmicky". I guess that's what you have to tell yourself when you realize you bought the wrong bike.
The only thing better is the information on that infotainment system. Some of you should check out customer complaints .rust and electrical issues .stalling out, or starting on their own while in your garage, putting your family at risk while sleeping.
The Street Glide Special has a stiffer suspension. If you want to make a suspension comparison, why not the Street Glide or Road Glide? With that said, Polaris warranty claims are a pain in the neck, vs HD. I have a 2014 Indian Cheif Vintage. They failed to address the leather fade issues appropriately, the paint and chrome quality is not even comparable to HD. I have a chrome pitting issue with the center console, put in a warranty claim a YEAR AGO, no response. They kept hem hawing about the %^&#@ picture of it, even when showing the dealer. I like the Indians, however, I DO NOT HAVE MUCH RESPECT FOR POLARIS.
you know what they say if mommas not happy nobody is happy. I was just saying my first choice was the Indian after test riding the street glide, but I would still have been happy with the street glide, it just happened that we both really liked the Indian.
Man... great video, but you lost me when you said "if the girlfriend had said get the street glide, then thats what I would have bought" ??? unless she's paying the gas and the note on that bad boy, she needs to drink a big cup of "Shut the F up" and sit down. ;-)
I hear, I was just trying to state the fact that I really did like both bikes, but we both really like the Indian more so it worked out, lol Take care and ride safe.
@@lukethedrifter33 I hear ya man... thanks for the video, and the follow up one after you had it. Im trying to decide on bikes, and the Dark Horse is a good value compared to the Street. See ya out there
@@lukethedrifter33 Bought it... went ahead and upgraded the exhaust to Reinhardt headers and pipes with Indian Stage 1 air. We'll see how it sounds next week.
Features and price...hummm, why not buy a Gold Wing or Yamaha or Kawasaki if you're looking for price and features...all three have better features than both Indian and HD. Cost less money, go faster and more comfortable to ride. People buy HD because they are Harley's...not for ride, comfort or whatever, simply because they are HD. IMHO.
You buy those shit quality bikes. The only one with more power is the Goldwing .plenty reviews to prove it. Those other bikes don't have half the options or value Harley or Indian has.
This guy says your wrong. I also disagree, because you have no idea about the difference between those shocks. One is air which Harley stopped using, and one has a shorter travel , which makes the bike sit lower and ride firmer.
Ride what you like, sick of the brand bashing. Harley rider here but like all bikes!
I hear that.
xdude2x it's not bushing it's an honest opinion.
I love them ALL , I have 4 different model motorcycles , I kept my 2007 Harley Heritage , and rode Harleys and Triumphs for more than 50 plus years . Harleys do make pretty bikes , but I have to say my Indian is more of a comfortible ride , a lot of Torque and it doesn't ride as hot as the harley . .
Congrats on the new Indian. I have been a Harley supporter for years. I finally had a motor problem with the M8 114 and they didn’t want to warranty their product. That was the initial reason for my swap over to Indian. Now that I have put a few thousand miles on it, I am hooked. Almost everything about it is better. I liked it so much that my wife traded her Harley for an Indian as well. I loved Harley. Harley cooperate made my decision for me.
Ride safe friend.
Darrell Gilbreath I hate Harley treated you that way, but glad we have two more on the tribe. Y’all ride safe.
I just think that we are lucky to be riding motorcycles. Any motorcycle.
Same here bro.
I was in the same situation last August. I love both brands and feel the Indian is offering more for the money but at the end of the day, we went with the Harley Roadglide special for the color, dealership network, and aftermarket.
I agree Harley has the dealer network and that is nice. Congrats on the bike, like I have said you can't go wrong with Harley or Indian. Thanks for watching and ride safe.
Glad you like your dealership! You'll be spending lots and lots of money there trying to keep your bike running (unless you are not more than a weekend rider) after riding Indians for many years and about 200 thousand miles I will say this: Indians in stock condition will smoke most Harleys hands down!! Besides that...they never break! Trying riding a Harley like you stole it all day long in 120 degree heat...good chance something will fail and you'll look so cool sitting there on the shoulder. An Indian will handle that day after day,they are incredibly fast, and never break! Cheers to Polaris for building a super fast just add gas and change the oil kind of motorcycle
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Indian Motorcycle Recalls Some Late Model Motorcycles. Indian Motorcycle Company is recalling certain model year 2014-2016 Chief Classic, Dark Horse, Chieftain, Roadmaster, Vintage and Chieftain Dark Horse motorcycles manufactured April 15, 2013, to June 16, 2015.
@@enriquemejia6697 Indian Recalls Motorcycles Over Crash Hazard
Every now and then, we hear about motorcycle recalls that may impact our readers and clients.
As a motorcycle rider myself, I believe that staying on top of the news regarding issues that may lead to accidents is important. In my personal injury law firm, we have helped countless riders who were involved in accidents caused by third parties that were negligent. Because motorcycle makers will sometimes ignore reports of issues and riders will be involved in accidents, it’s important that motorcycle owners are doing all they can to avoid accidents.
The latest motorcycle recall to have been reported impacts the Indian Motorcycles.
According to the reports, thousands of motorcycles are being recalled over a crash hazard.
Since the 2017 and 2018 Chief, Chief Classic, Chief Dark Horse, Chief Vintage, Chieftain, Chieftain Classic, Chieftain Dark Horse, Chieftain Elite, Chieftain Limited, Springfield, and Springfield Dark Horse motorcycles come with European-market instead of U.S.-market halogen headlight assemblies. Due to this mistake, the vehicles fail to meet U.S. federal standards for safety, and, as a result, the motorcycle’s visibility may be impacted, increasing the risk of an accident as a consequence.
Since this problem may lead to serious and even deadly consequences, the company has reported that all impacted vehicles will be inspected and any incorrect headlight assembly will be replaced entirely for free.
Indian has reported that it will be contacting impacted vehicle owners to have the issue addressed immediately. Thankfully, we haven’t learned of any serious or deadly accidents involving the recalled vehicles. Nevertheless, we urge riders with the recalled motorcycles to either wait until they get the recall notice to go to a dealer to have the issue addressed or to reach out to Indian directly to learn more about how you should proceed to have this issue addressed.
For more details on how to contact Indian, follow this link.
@@enriquemejia6697 I-18-04 Indian Motorcycle® Bulletin
5/16/2018
The following is a copy of the I-18-04 Consumer Letter. Vehicles affected by this bulletin will receive notification by mail to the address the vehicle is registered to. To check your VIN for open bulletins, please click here.
Dear INDIAN MOTORCYCLE Owner:
This notice is sent to you in accordance with the requirements of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act. INDIAN MOTORCYCLE has decided that a defect which relates to the motor vehicle safety exists in some 2018 Indian 111ci motorcycles. Our records indicate you have purchased a potentially affected vehicle.
The reason for this recall:
INDIAN MOTORCYCLE has determined that some 2018 111ci models were manufactured with a right-hand switch cube assembly that does not meet quality standards. Affected switch cubes may develop corrosion within the Stop/Run/Start circuit. If the key fob is stored on or near the motorcycle and all other safety interlocks are met, this condition could lead to unintentional vehicle power-up or start sequence.
What INDIAN MOTORCYCLE and your dealer will do:
INDIAN MOTORCYCLE will issue a Safety Bulletin to all INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealers, with instructions required to replace the right-hand switch cube with an updated version. Repairs will be made by any authorized INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealers at no cost to you.
What you should do:
Contact your authorized INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealer to schedule an appointment to have the bulletin repair performed. Do not attempt repairs yourself. Repairs must be done only by an authorized INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealer.
If you have questions or need more information:
While your INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealer is in the best position to answer your questions, if you have any questions that your dealer cannot address, if you are having difficulty obtaining the repair outlined in this letter, or if you need assistance finding an INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealer, please visit our website at www.indianmotorcycle.com or contact our INDIAN MOTORCYCLE Consumer Service Department by calling 877-204-3697.
If you believe that the dealer or INDIAN MOTORCYCLE has failed or is unable to remedy the defect within a reasonable time, you may submit a complaint to the Administrator, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 1200 New Jersey Avenue S.E. Washington, D.C. 20590, or call the toll free Vehicle Safety Hot Line at 888-327-4236 (TTY: 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov.
This notice was mailed to you according to our most current registration information. If you no longer own your INDIAN MOTORCYCLE, please contact your local INDIAN MOTORCYCLE dealer to have the ownership information changed. The INDIAN MOTORCYCLE Consumer Service Department cannot change ownership information without identification. Federal law requires that any vehicle lessor receiving this notice must forward a copy of this notice to the lessee within 10 days.
Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause you. Your safety and continued satisfaction with your INDIAN MOTORCYCLE is our primary concern. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
INDIAN MOTORCYCLE
I'm not ready to give up my Victory CC yet but after getting my butt on one of the new Indian Dark Horse Chieftains last month I'm sure this is the way I'm going when the time comes.
I hear you I have a couple of friends who have Victory bikes and they love them.
@@lukethedrifter33 They are awesome bikes, I have a 2007 victory jackpot and a 2016 Victory Magnum. I love the Indian also, i have 4 and you will NOT be disappointed, welcome to the tribe!
@@snakebite6511 very cool, Thanks bro.
What victory do you own?
@@123JumpingJacks 2007 victory jackpot and a 2016 Victory Magnum
Congrats on the New Ride . Wishing you lots of safe riding out there.
Thank you.
Welcome to the Tribe. I just purchased a 2021 Chieftain Dark Horse. They say the clutch pull has been improved for this model year. And the brake side hand control now has a start button. As well as Apple Car Play. All I had to do is ride one. And it blew me away. Air assist rear Fox shock. Pages of info on the infotainment screen. Tip of the spear. With a 7 year warranty. I’m loving it. It just needs Roadmaster Lowers and heated grips. Which I’ll have put on.
Love those Indians! They just get better and better!
me too.
I tried HD street and road glide. I almost pulled the trigger on Road Glide but I wasn’t really in love with the shark fairing. I am HD for many years. Indian was in my radar for a long time but I don’t like the classic look of the previous models. When 2019 came I didn’t even take one for test ride but I was asking everybody owns Indian and they’re always giving me happy answers. I bought the same bike you have but the smoke bronze. Man I was blown away when I took it for the first ride. I am even happy with the way it sounds. Very easy to ride. All the points you have mentioned are true. I had to spent tons of money on my HD to come to this point. Good job Indian
cool thanks for watching congrats on the bike, I almost went with the bronze, I had that color on the bobber and loved it. Ride safe.
Hmmmm, thx for posting sir.
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Good video...thanks. I’m picking up my 2019 chieftain darkhorse bronze in 3 hours and 18 minutes!!!
That is awesome, you will love it, and I love that color. Welcome to the Tribe,,, ride safe.
CC Rider Moto VLOGS was even better than I hoped. Worlds away from my scout. WORLDS!
Man , I am so happy for you. You are right on all your points . Like you, I was in the market for a new touring bike and it was between an HD Ultra Limited Low and a Roadmaster. No HD dealer could come even close to the deal I got on Chief Red Cloud as I affectionately call him.
Agree also that the power shield is a big deal. You would have to buy 3 windshields of varying heights for the HD to match the versatility of this Indian feature and even then HD can't match the convienience of change shield height on the fly. If you take a long trip where you experience every form of weather in mother nature's arsenal, you will love this feature even more.
Remote locking bags is wonderful. press a button and walk away with peace of mind, super convenient.
THe M8 powered HD had more spunk than my 2017 but with ride mode offered for Indians for 2019, I feel the playing field has been leveled in this area.
Heated seats and grips are great too!
My bike is stock. In 37,500 miles, I have had the latch on the "glove box" break and be replaced under warranty, chrome flaked off my original kickstand also replaced under warranty. My power shield stopped working , windshield electric motor replace under warranty. that is all. No engine issues at all.
Your 2019 power windshield is powered by an updated (simplified) redesigned electric motor so you should have no worries there.
My Roadmaster is so butter smooth. I actually slow down on my commute home so that my ride last longer. I do 80-85 going to work (freeway) and set my cruise at 68-70 mph for the return ride home lol.
THe only thing that doesn't seem like a durable design and that I am not happy with is the design of that dashtop glove box I previously touched on. I use it every day but I wouldn't be surprised if this design failed again before my warranty goes out. I have another 15 months of factory warranty so I'm not worried.
Thanks bro, I'm very happy with it, it's such a nice ride and more comfy for two. Take care and Ride safe.
Your Indian has a 111ci engine, it should be more powerful .now put it against the 114ci which is now standard on the touring special models.
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I agree that it should .
I’ve had a 2015 Chieftain since new and still love it.
I have the 2016 chieftain and serious wanting to trade it in for the 2019 dark white horse , I want the Navagation and the riding modes .
Welcome to the tribe. Like many i was on both sides of the fence. I am glad we have more quality american brands Enjoy and be safe
Thanks Alen. I agree the more the better.
I gotta say I love my 2019 chieftain too. I loved my Harley FXSE too. The Indian is an awesome bike and it fits me perfectly, the stage 2 kit is great and it was included with my bike. I think that your correct with the value for the money. I say ride what you love and enjoy the time that you ride.
Right on Tim. Thanks for watching and ride safe bro.
@@lukethedrifter33 you too, I really like the white smoke on your bike, I got one of the ICON's in Dragon green and I really dig the color. The dealership told me it's the only one in Washington state too.
@@timsmith1589 Thanks, I went and looked at the 2020 yesterday and I like the red they are doing it looks nice.
@@lukethedrifter33 I think that they have their A game on over at Indian bro.
@@timsmith1589 no joke
Nice bike, up here by Mt. Rainier, we call 55 dry and overcast a perfect day to ride !
That's right bro
Thanks for an honest comparison whilst not being a dick about it. As long as there is more than one choice there will always be comparisons and opinions. If I had to give up HD, Indian would be my first choice by far. I think once they become more established we'll be seeing lots more of them on the road. Right now dealers seem kinda sparse, but give it time and some success with the new bikes and that'll change. Glad you're happy with the new bike, you are the one that rides it and makes the payment after all! Cool video, keep riding!
Thanks Richard, ride safe.
I love Harley but Indian is just as good with better standard features for lesser price. I'm saving my money this spring to hopefully but the Challenger when it comes out
I agree bro, ride safe.
Very nice bike! I also like the Indian line up even though I ride a Road Glide Ultra I do like the Road Master. TIme to watch more of your videos. Ride Safe
Thanks bro, ride safe and thanks for watching.
Hmmm, good point, I'm present straddling the fence, with the same Harley Roadglide, & mine will boil down to costs as well I'm sure. I've test ridden the 2019 Roadglide, now gotta test ride the Indian. Stay tuned....
Nice I'm glad you are going to give Indian a try I think you will like it. Ride safe.
You will LOVE the INDIAN
Excellent talk. If I was selecting this bike, you hit on features I would have been considering.
Thanks, glad you found it useful ..
Great video! Been shopping the Springfield. I’m up north in Oklahoma City. If I get one maybe we can go for an Indian group ride one day! Ride safe.
Thanks Jordan, sounds good let me know if you get it. Ride safe.
Good attitude, good vid, great bike. God bless.
Thanks C& L.
I'm deciding between the dark horse and street glide special now. Only thing is, I will have to travel for the Indian. Ghetto HD I can get local.
After owning 6 Harley Davidson's I bought the Indian Road master over the Harley limited, for the same reasons you did.
I would be interested in seeing an Indian version of the Road Glide.
I could see Indian making something to compete with it one day.
@@lukethedrifter33 They already did with the street glide .The road glide difference is the fixed frame mounted fairing .
Yeah I’m sure they’ll make something fairly similar
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Man. Love the Indians. At the end of the year i'll prob update from the Chief to Chieftain. Still torn between the Elite and the Classic though.
I'm so glad I got it it is such a nice ride and getting thumbs up and head turns everywhere I go.
I love my harley, but at a demo day I rode the cheiftains and I completely agree the suspension on the indian is night and day better...
Indians look like Harley bootlegs!!
hey Mate..great comment at the end....go and do it...I am a Goldwing rider, don';t wanna do the Harley thing....so really considering the Chieftain......thanks fo r the video
Thanks Ken, I think you will love the chieftain its a nice ride. Take care.
I like it, and I liked the flat white color until I sit behind it..I'd have to paint the dash.. and just cant get over the brake master cylinder in front of the faring speaker. I think I'd rather have a manual windshield adjustment if it saves a few pounds (up so high) and several dollars.
Congrats on the bike. I am in the same boat as you were...upgrading to bagger this year and can't decide between the two. I noticed that Indian comes stock with LED lights too and Street glide special does not. Definitely leaning towards the Dark Horse at this point, but slightly worried about it holding its value if I ever decide to sell. Ride safe!
Thanks Alex, Harley does hold value better.
Arlington Texas!!!!! Thought I recognized that intersection and a Texas accent.
Yep The big A town. Are you in Arlington?
Work in Arlington(downtown) live in Mansfield.
Love your sweet ride! Oh, and love you too! Keep enjoy life because it's way too short! 😎
Thanks Sheila love you too.
One of the defined differences is that the Chieftain has a much better balance from the moment you take it off the side stand. And handling is better as well, you sit “into” the Chieftain not on top of it..not to mention the Chieftain has a superior suspension. The stock exhaust sound is great stock. No need to pay to upgrade like Harley. The navigation system is more advanced and easier to use as well. The adjustable power windshield is a very nice usable feature Harley-Davidson still doesn’t have. All the lighting is LED from the factory, no need to pay for upgrades like Harley, keyless remote luggage locks, beautiful wheels and body work. The list goes on... Indian Chieftain wins hands down! However as always, it’s all up to the riders personal preference. At the end of the day Indian is very serious competition for Harley Davidson and is here to stay!
I also like that the faring moves with the handlebars. I'll go check out your first vid on it.
Muncie Man so does a street glide, the road glide the fairing stays stationary.
Your a good man! Your wife got blessed!👍
I try to tell her that all the time....LOL. Thanks for watching.
Love it all except the Hydraulic reservoir, and the white (though eye catching at first) I'd have to have the stage 2 right off the bat otherwise I wouldn't be satisfied coming from a Stratoliner.
Great Vlog! Sweet bike. Damn, gonna be 70, it's 20 here and we're going get a foot of snow this weekend.
Thanks bro, I feel for you glad we are not getting snow but cold front comes in tonight, so trying to get some riding in.
@@lukethedrifter33 Be safe and enjoy!
The street glide special has more power and torque and it feels better while turning I would just upgrade the suspension on the glide and you got a perfect bike
That is true Anthony I still love the street glide, I just loved the Indian a little more. Thanks for watching.
Congrats on the new bike
I’m curious about a scheduled maintenance cost comparison between the two bikes, I ride a Harley and some of the maintenance costs are unbelievable. Some I do myself but that’s not always an option.
I'm not sure, I know it's not cheap.
It depends what your dealership's flat rates are.
Indian uses ONLY One fluid for all , and is easier to changed the oil .
Ride on brother. I still don't like the fairing on the dark horse. Looks like a 50's freight train. But that's just my thinking. I'm glad you got the bike you wanted. Ride on, keep the rubber on the road!!
Thanks bro. it took time to grow on me too, Ride safe.
So what's the bike look like ? the whole video your looking through the windshield ?
Indian® Chieftain Dark Horse®
Starting at $26,749* US MSRP
Dude your riding in cold weather , you should of extended your windshield , I m thinking about trading in my 2016 chieftain for this bike .
As a xhd man I can say this pretty hard to beat Holly at what they do but good luck
Good video man. Love those grips!
Thanks brother.
2.1" travel with the street/roadglide and RK special. It's form over function in that they want a look as opposed the best functioning rear suspension. It's not bashing, but a fact. HD could engineer a better suspension, but it woudl violate their design ethic and probably would require a complete redesign of the frame.
So what's the take away from this video? It's that gas was $1.89! (7:23) THATS AMAIZING!
Harley actually does have keyless power locking bags but you have to get the CVO models and spend 40,000 plus to get it.... you can't even find it anywhere on Harley site as a aftermarket add-on option either for the standard bikes.
Hey Harley if you're listening.... keyless locking bags and forks should not be a CVO model exclusive unless you want to lose sales to the competition.
I see people talking about adding aftermarket shocks to the Harley to be comparable to the chieftain butt most of these aftermarket shocks only ad maybe an inch of travel and there is no substitute for suspension travel... the chieftain still has an inch on these aftermarket solutions for the Harley.
Don't get me wrong I love Harley and I own one but hey there's nothing wrong with competition to keep Harley on their heels and improving their bikes.
someone told me that you can get it on the CVO thats crazy and I agree I think competition will be good for both brands and we as riders will benefit in the end. Thanks for watching and ride safe.
That’s price an all Is great but at the end of the day your not riding a Harley. I have been where your at before comparing prices and still bout the HD. There is just something about riding a Harley. Glad your happy about your purchase. Hopefully Polaris don’t pull the plug like they did with Victory.
I think he knows that he's not riding a Harley. More features, reliability, more power with stunning looks. Harley is the #ME TOO bike. After test riding a brand new Street glide I figured out what that ( it's something about a Harley) feeling is. Harley has you guys thinking that any lame who gets on one is magically a big tough cool biker guy! I actually felt like I was riding a moped! My decision was made I will be going with the Indian.
lilypad vlogs I rode a Victory Vision for 2 years and put 33000 Miles on it. Great bike ! Maybe the best bike I have ever owned. When It came time to get another bike Polaris had pulled the plug on Victory. I test rode the Indian Road Master and the HD Road Glide Ultra. To me the Road Glide is a far superior bike. Just my opinion. Another thing is I will not give Polaris another dime of my money. They pretty much through all the Victory riders under the bus !
Beautiful bike, enjoy the road!
Thanks bro, will do. Ride safe.
Congrats!!
Man, these comments... Crazy... Both sides have obvious bias. Mine is the best, yours is trash.
I've ridden both... Both are GREAT bikes with each having their wins and losses.
Indian: features such as remote locking bags, power shield, ride modes, better suspension
Harely: better appearance (stance...which is why they sacrifice ride quality..., fit and finish), parts "feel" of better quality.
At the end of the day, they're pretty comparable... There are things I don't like about Indian such as the plastic dash (which will probably fade and crack over time), the fact that I have to go full turn on the bars to access the fuel tank, the design on the inner fairing, shape of the bags (wish they'd go extended like the SG special)... That's about it. As for Harley, I don't like the rougher suspension, the lack of convenience features (mentioned above) that the Indian has, less performance than they should get out of that big of a displacement.
At the end of the day, none of those things are true deal breakers for either. Indian makes more power, but Harley is more than sufficient. I prefer Harley's infotainment system better, but don't mind Indian's. I think Harley looks better, but Indian is a beautiful bike too. I'd appreciate the keyless entry on the bags but don't find myself in situations where I feel like I need to lock my bags that often, when I do the key isn't really that inconvenient. The windscreen is nice, but changing a windshield to 1 that's the "happy medium" is easy enough. Both bikes are pretty damn reliable now that the kinks are worked out.
You can't go wrong with either, and I'd have a hard time deciding between the 2 at this point. Only someone blind, would be brand loyal without checking out the positives of the other brands.
I agree 100% bro
What 2019 Harley have you rode? No Harley doesn't have the power windscreen but it also doesn't permit water to get into the fairing.
The Indian was cheaper because they're trying to build the brand. Have you priced the accessories? More expensive than HD.
I know they are not cheap, but have not compared them to HD.
When you spend a ton of money on a bike , you should not have to buy a bunch of accessories.. If the dealer charges too much hope the aftermarket will have stuff too ..
Cheap quality in some cases.
No different to HD in that regard. HOWEVER, at least with Indian you don't have to buy decent suspension to replace the shocks! Here in Oz that's a VERY real consideration.
When Indian made a comeback they were more expensive than Harley. They can also shift cost around with other products they produce .harley makes motorcycles that's it.
I'm stuck between the 2 cheftain dark horse or streetglide special?
I know the cheftain definitely has better infotainment system. Nice bike good vid
Brian trerotola I was in the same spot I like both bikes, I just went more options for less money. I really think I would have been happy with street glide also, both awesome bikes. Thanks for watching and ride safe bro.
@@lukethedrifter33 I see good and bad in both im scared to pull the trigger but I'm so ready to buy one???? Lol thanks stay safe out there
Aye Arlington tx!! I think I've seen you before riding around. I own a Hayabusa but I'm looking to buy a bagger and I'm torn between the street glide and your Indian.
I believe they made that bike so a lot of harley parts will fit it since Indian is limited on parts. What is the warranty on the Indian? Good video!
Agree, nice ride, enjoy !
Congrats on the bike. They are beautiful. Bring on the gimmicks. If the technology is there, use it. However the amount of plastic trim and the handlebar switch housings doesn’t sit well for me. I think Polaris is doing a credible job ringing back an iconic brand and keeping prices down because they’re building a brand again. Just my .02. Enjoy.
Thanks bro. Ride safe.
I looked at a few Indians last weekend. One was a 2017 or 2018 that had some of the “chrome” paint peeling off the plastic strip that goes around the front fender. One of the reasons I prefer my Harley over the Honda I had before was the “chrome painted plastic” all over the Honda - you won’t see that on a Harley.
People buy a Corvette and expect an Escalade ride. SMH. Harley got it right with lowered suspension on the “sportier” Special and longer and softer travel with the base Street Glide and Ultra.
I'm still #teamharleydavidson
I agree with you 100% Very good review 👏👏
Hey, nice vlog. One question , does it have a hydraulic clutch ? I have some arthritis starting in my hands and
My Ultra has that feature and it is great ! I would like to add the Dark Horse chieftain to my garage if possible.
I just subbed to your channel too... I like hearing other riders talk about their bikes
Thanks Richard, I'm not sure about the clutch but if I had to guess I would say yes, its not hard to pull.
My Springfield is mechanical but the clutch is very easy to pull. I like the pull better than the post Rushmore HD I used to ride.
Congrats! Beautiful Bike! The only beef I had with your bike was the gas caps being almost under the infotainment system. Also, FYI Clearance on the rear suspension of a Streetglide Special is actually 4.9"... Great ride! Enjoy!
My view. We with Indian chiefs are the leaders, the rest are the Indians, the cowboys and the gold rush blow ins.
I like the way you think lol. Thanks for watching and ride safe.
Congratulations
Thanks Richard.
Good question why??
If I had not bought the Harley M8 street glide special in 2017 I would have bought an Indian bagger. Both brands have great longevity with basic maintenance with the Indian having an edge in ease of oil changes and a maintenance free chain free primary side.
Good point's Frank.
I recognize some of the area ya are driving. Did you happen to purchase that bad boy at Lonestar Indian? If so...tell me about your experience. I am about to make the long haul to Garland to have a look and maybe a purchase.
Disregard....just saw in your "reveal" vid that ya got it at Big Tex Indian. Let me know how they treated ya.
Never checked out Lonestar, but Big Tex in Denton was awesome. Super nice and really worked with me on the deal. If you go in ask for Billy or Bill I worked with both of them and they are great. Tell them Chris sent you. Take care.
@@lukethedrifter33 Watch put for the Denton Ford Dealer they are Crooks .. Think Like a Cop had an F-150 that was a total Lemon .. He finally sold it for a Loss to Denton Ford and walked across the street and bought a Toyota .. Ford had many electrical problems had to be towed to the Dealer a few times..
Which is better when cornering?
Jordi Pi I think the Indian is a little better, but both corner very well.
Let us know your opinion after the first service or breakdown. While I agree with your points about Indian being a nicer bike with better options, you still cant beat Harleys proven mechanical reliability. Unfortunately too many things on the Indian have been breaking down and there is no repair known by the dealers. Also, if you thought HD service was expensive, just wait.
I will keep everyone posted on any issues I run across. Thanks for watching.
I actually listed many of their issues but when these people are more concerned with other things they sell, they have gone deaf. The styling has confused many of them.
Indian has an engine which pings do to bad pushrods and lifters, which have required new engines to be installed in some bikes. Many have ECM problems and cylinder issues. Some have electronic issues, and faulty indicator lights.
Did you really just make an argument for Harley based on reliability? First time I've ever heard that. SMH.
Good choice
Thanks SCS
Not enough Indian dealerships across the country..With Harley you can get parts and labor virtually anywhere...not so much with the Injin
Never got to see the bike ?
PRICING 6
VIVID BLACK $27,089 COLOR $27,589 TWO-TONE CUSTOM COLOR $29,189 ABS OPTION StandardSECURITY SYSTEM OPTION StandardCRUISE CONTROL OPTION StandardPREMIUM RADIO OPTION StandardCALIFORNIA EMISSIONS $200FREIGHT $435
ENGINE
ENGINE 1 Milwaukee-Eight® 114 BORE 4.016 in.STROKE 4.5 in.DISPLACEMENT 1,868 cc (114 cu in)COMPRESSION RATIO 10.5:1FUEL SYSTEM 3 Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI)EXHAUST Black, 2-1-2 dual exhaust with tapered mufflers
DIMENSIONS
LENGTH 95.5 in.SEAT HEIGHT, LADEN 7 26.1 in.SEAT HEIGHT, UNLADEN 27.2 in.GROUND CLEARANCE 4.9 in.RAKE (STEERING HEAD) (DEG) 26TRAIL 6.8 in.WHEELBASE 64 in.TIRES, FRONT SPECIFICATION 130/60B19 61HTIRES, REAR SPECIFICATION 180/55B18 80HFUEL CAPACITY 6 gal.OIL CAPACITY (W/FILTER) 5.2 qt.WEIGHT, AS SHIPPED 798 lb.WEIGHT, IN RUNNING ORDER 836 lb.LUGGAGE CAPACITY -VOLUME 2.5 cu ft
PERFORMANCE
ENGINE TORQUE TESTING METHOD J1349ENGINE TORQUE 2 122 ft-lb ENGINE TORQUE (RPM) 3,000LEAN ANGLE, RIGHT (DEG.) 32LEAN ANGLE, LEFT (DEG.) 31FUEL ECONOMY TESTING METHOD Estimated City/HwyFUEL ECONOMY 5 43 mpg
DRIVETRAIN
PRIMARY DRIVE Chain, 34/46 ratioGEAR RATIOS (OVERALL) 1ST 9.593GEAR RATIOS (OVERALL) 2ND 6.65GEAR RATIOS (OVERALL) 3RD 4.938GEAR RATIOS (OVERALL) 4TH 4GEAR RATIOS (OVERALL) 5TH 3.407GEAR RATIOS (OVERALL) 6TH 2.875
CHASSIS
WHEELS, FRONT TYPE 9 Black, Talon Cast AluminumWHEELS, REAR TYPE Black, Talon Cast AluminumBRAKES, CALIPER TYPE 32 mm, 4-piston fixed front and rear
ELECTRIC
LIGHTS (AS PER COUNTRY REGULATION), INDICATOR LAMPS 8 High beam, running lights, directional lights, low oil pressure, neutral, engine diagnostics, battery, cruise control, speakers, accessory, security system, gear indication, low fuel warning, ABS, miles to empty display, fog/aux lamp indicatorGAUGES Gauges styled to complement each vehicle. Display features odometer, trip A, trip B, range to empty and gear indicator; and larger tell-tale indicators.
INFOTAINMENT
INFOTAINMENT SYSTEM Boom!™ Box GTSTYPE Full Color TFTWATTS PER CHANNEL 25SPEAKERS 2SPEAKER SIZE 6.5 inch BOOM standardHEADSET SPECIFICATIONS (IF EQUIPPED) 16-64 ohmsAM StandardFM StandardWEATHER BAND (WB) StandardSD CARD, FLASH DRIVE AND MP3 - VIA USB CONNECTION SupportedSIRIUSXM PRESETS 20 - P&A Upgrade (USA & Canada only)LAUGUAGES English (US/UK), German, Spanish (Mexico/Spain), French (Canada/France), Italian, Portuguese (Portugal/Brazil), Russian, Czech, Polish, Dutch, Turkish, JapaneseHANDS-FREE MOBILE PHONE - VIA BLUETOOTH StandardVOICE RECOGNITION LANGUAGES: PHONE FUNCTIONS ONLY English (US/UK), German, Spanish (Mexico/Spain), French (Canada/France), Italian, Portuguese (Portugal/Brazil), Russian, Czech, Polish, Dutch, Turkish, JapaneseVOICE RECOGNITION LANGUAGES: TUNER/MEDIA/NAVIGATION English (US/UK), German, Spanish (Mexico/Spain), French (Canada/France), Italian, Portuguese (Portugal/Brazil), Russian, Czech, Polish, Dutch, Turkish, JapaneseRIDER/PASSENGER INTERCOM StandardVEHICLE INFORMATION SCREEN (AIR TEMPERATURE, OIL PRESSURE AND EITMS) StandardTEXT-TO-SPEECH (TTS) LANGUAGES English (US/UK), German, Spanish (Mexico/Spain), French (Canada/France), Italian, Portuguese (Portugal/Brazil), Russian, Czech, Polish, Dutch, Turkish, JapaneseUSB USB/MTP/iPod/iPhoneBLUETOOTH Phone/Media Supported
Gawd i hate that instrument cluster
Is it true this bike runs hot! Or any Indian bike runs really hott
I have not notice mine running hot.
I believe your Dark Horse also has two bluetooth capabilities.
1) your cellphone bluetoothing to the bike infotainment system.
2) The infotainment system bluetoothing to your helmet.
Neither the Street Glide nor the Road Glide have this 2nd feature.
Nice I have not messed with the bluetooth much. Thanks for the info.
True, however the Harley has the optional wireless headset available. And bluetooth to your phone is standard. 2019 infotainment took a giant leep forward. Still Indian has a nice system.
@@tax905972 wrong about what? Or was this miss directed to me?
@@scottpeters2974 Maybe, for Rod.
Those features you mentioned came with the boom audio beginning in 2014, long before Indian changed their audio system. Bluetooth for the command system is new, but Bluetooth has always been a part of that system for your phone or iPod. The commands for nav, etc required a cable.
Had to laugh when you said some ppl think the better equipment is "gimmicky". I guess that's what you have to tell yourself when you realize you bought the wrong bike.
The only thing better is the information on that infotainment system. Some of you should check out customer complaints .rust and electrical issues .stalling out, or starting on their own while in your garage, putting your family at risk while sleeping.
I do not Trust Polaris to keep the brand. They may get rid of it, in a sales slump. They have done it before.
More bike less money then HD
That's true.
Hey I know exactly where this is! My son goes to school around there. We should see about doing a ride together!
Cool we can do that
I’m one of admins on the Texas Bikers and Trikers FB group. Check it out. Congratulations on the beautiful bike. 👍🏻
@@GaryDrumm cool will do.
Save the time until it's nice out!!
How does the powerband compare between the two? I haven't ridden an Indian yet, but like you, I am tempted to switch over.
both feel real good to me.
First two minutes waste of time while talking about the weather
Sorry Bro, did not try to waste your time. Ride safe.
The Street Glide Special has a stiffer suspension. If you want to make a suspension comparison, why not the Street Glide or Road Glide? With that said, Polaris warranty claims are a pain in the neck, vs HD. I have a 2014 Indian Cheif Vintage. They failed to address the leather fade issues appropriately, the paint and chrome quality is not even comparable to HD. I have a chrome pitting issue with the center console, put in a warranty claim a YEAR AGO, no response. They kept hem hawing about the %^&#@ picture of it, even when showing the dealer. I like the Indians, however, I DO NOT HAVE MUCH RESPECT FOR POLARIS.
The only thing you got extra was a power windscreen.
Not really, I got keyless bags, three ride modes.
CC Rider Moto VLOGS same thing you have from just twisting the grip.
CC Rider Moto VLOGS cvo has power locking saddlebags.
CC Rider Moto VLOGS ua-cam.com/video/L6AZEweE960/v-deo.html
@@tax905972 I did not know that. Thanks for the info.
Indian makes awesome bikes. I just dont like the looks.
Thanks Bro. Ride safe.
You lost me at "if she said she likes the street glide better" Now turn in your man card.
you know what they say if mommas not happy nobody is happy. I was just saying my first choice was the Indian after test riding the street glide, but I would still have been happy with the street glide, it just happened that we both really liked the Indian.
Man... great video, but you lost me when you said "if the girlfriend had said get the street glide, then thats what I would have bought" ??? unless she's paying the gas and the note on that bad boy, she needs to drink a big cup of "Shut the F up" and sit down. ;-)
I hear, I was just trying to state the fact that I really did like both bikes, but we both really like the Indian more so it worked out, lol Take care and ride safe.
@@lukethedrifter33 I hear ya man... thanks for the video, and the follow up one after you had it. Im trying to decide on bikes, and the Dark Horse is a good value compared to the Street. See ya out there
@@wolfpackpilot I think you will love the Dark Horse if you decide on it.
@@lukethedrifter33 Bought it... went ahead and upgraded the exhaust to Reinhardt headers and pipes with Indian Stage 1 air. We'll see how it sounds next week.
@@wolfpackpilot Nice bro, welcome to the Tribe. Ride safe.
Features and price...hummm, why not buy a Gold Wing or Yamaha or Kawasaki if you're looking for price and features...all three have better features than both Indian and HD. Cost less money, go faster and more comfortable to ride. People buy HD because they are Harley's...not for ride, comfort or whatever, simply because they are HD. IMHO.
The reason I did not put much thought into them was I like to buy American made when I can, and I think Indian and Harley look better.
All five Eddy...all five.@Edward Tillotson
You buy those shit quality bikes. The only one with more power is the Goldwing .plenty reviews to prove it. Those other bikes don't have half the options or value Harley or Indian has.
..... Long story short..... He said if his GF decided for him..... If she said Harley he would have bought Harley lol wtf?!!!
So Indian's the best well watch this ;ua-cam.com/video/Or4dMou5BL8/v-deo.html
Suspension is much better on dark horse then HD.
This guy says your wrong. I also disagree, because you have no idea about the difference between those shocks. One is air which Harley stopped using, and one has a shorter travel , which makes the bike sit lower and ride firmer.
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are you color blind? it's white!
No e bike man
$1,500 nice Chunk of change .. Why do you have to buy a new seat with a new Cruiser bike ? $1,500 less for a More reliable better riding bike ..
My girlfriend did not like the rounded passenger seat so they said they would put on a nice touring seat. She loves the Indian's stock seat.
@@lukethedrifter33 better keep her happy.
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